Philip Scofield has stated he is Gay

[Josy]

I think it's more to do with if you aren't gay you can't VILLAINIZE someone for the choices they make/have made which relate to their coming out. Sentiments relating to his wife "living a lie" as a result of the choices Phil made or the parts of his life/himself that he concealed from her just villainize him as someone who set out to do all this as some sort of premeditated, deliberate plot. Obviously this is not the case.



To feel bad for his wife is totally understandable but to disagree with what he's done or "how long he left it" is really for no-one to say because coming out is incredibly hard and I think those of us who came out earlier in life are EXTREMELY lucky because I can imagine the burden gets worse and worse as you get older and let more and more of your life pass by without properly coming to terms with it.You make some very valid well thought out points.

[AnnieK]

It would have been better to possibly have his wife there with him so she could have explained her stance on it and showed her support to stop the theorising about how she is or is not taking it

[Josy]

It would have been better to possibly have his wife there with him so she could have explained her stance on it and showed her support to stop the theorising about how she is or is not taking itYes I think that would have been a lot better too, I also saw earlier that holly has now said she has known about it for a long time so I'm hoping his wife did too.

[Liam-]

I think it's more to do with if you aren't gay you can't VILLAINIZE someone for the choices they make/have made which relate to their coming out. Sentiments relating to his wife "living a lie" as a result of the choices Phil made or the parts of his life/himself that he concealed from her just villainize him as someone who set out to do all this as some sort of premeditated, deliberate plot. Obviously this is not the case.

To feel bad for his wife is totally understandable but to disagree with what he's done or "how long he left it" is really for no-one to say because coming out is incredibly hard and I think those of us who came out earlier in life are EXTREMELY lucky because I can imagine the burden gets worse and worse as you get older and let more and more of your life pass by without properly coming to terms with it.

Spot on

[Jessica.]

It would have been better to possibly have his wife there with him so she could have explained her stance on it and showed her support to stop the theorising about how she is or is not taking it

Yeah, I thought his wife was going to be with him during his chat about it on This Morning and not Holly tbh, I was a bit surprised to see her there reading his statement and stuff, i know they are co-hosts but huh?

[Cal.]

Yeah, I thought his wife was going to be with him during his chat about it on This Morning and not Holly tbh, I was a bit surprised to see her there reading his statement and stuff, i know they are co-hosts but huh?

I assume they are best friends irl and he requested that Holly was there to help him go through with it

[Marsh.]

I assume they are best friends irl and he requested that Holly was there to help him go through with it

Assume a lot don't you?

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[Babayaro.]

Assume a lot don't you?

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Always assuming, that one. :notimpressed:

[Jessica.]

I assume they are best friends irl and he requested that Holly was there to help him go through with it

Yeah, obviously she was supporting him but I just didn't expect her.
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[Liam-]

If on DOI on Sunday he’s not skated out onto the rink atop all the male professional skaters, in his Joseph robe while Diana Ross ‘I’m coming out’ plays, all of this was for nothing

[Marsh.]

No wonder H was saved last week.

[Liam-]

No wonder H was saved last week.

Matt to have a ‘mysterious illness’ forcing Phil to take his place?

[Marsh.]

Matt to have a ‘mysterious illness’ forcing Phil to take his place?

:joker:

[Kate!]

No wonder H was saved last week.

:joker:

[Cal.]

Yeah, obviously she was supporting him but I just didn't expect her.
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Sorry I’m half asleep I didn’t mean my reply to sound so pointless luv

[Marsh.]

Sorry I’m half asleep I didn’t mean my reply to sound so pointless luv

Does that apply to all your posts?

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[GoldHeart]

No wonder H was saved last week.

That joke would only make sense if Philip was a judge himself , I don't watch DOI though .

[Ammi]

It would have been better to possibly have his wife there with him so she could have explained her stance on it and showed her support to stop the theorising about how she is or is not taking it

...maybe talking about it will be something she’ll think about in the future, Annie...

[Ammi]

I think it's more to do with if you aren't gay you can't VILLAINIZE someone for the choices they make/have made which relate to their coming out. Sentiments relating to his wife "living a lie" as a result of the choices Phil made or the parts of his life/himself that he concealed from her just villainize him as someone who set out to do all this as some sort of premeditated, deliberate plot. Obviously this is not the case.

To feel bad for his wife is totally understandable but to disagree with what he's done or "how long he left it" is really for no-one to say because coming out is incredibly hard and I think those of us who came out earlier in life are EXTREMELY lucky because I can imagine the burden gets worse and worse as you get older and let more and more of your life pass by without properly coming to terms with it.


..Jigs..:love:..you’ve put it so perfectly...it must be so incredibly difficult for both Philip and his wife...he seems to be surrounded by family love and support...but that won’t necessarily have made it and will make it easier for him...

[Marsh.]

That joke would only make sense if Philip was a judge himself , I don't watch DOI though .

Listen YOU!

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[Crimson Dynamo]

..Jigs..:love:..you’ve put it so perfectly...it must be so incredibly difficult for both Philip and his wife...he seems to be surrounded by family love and support...but that won’t necessarily have made it and will make it easier for him...

that is certainly how the PR material he launched today would want you to believe. It seems it has been successful

[Marsh.]

The Queen asked him to be gay for a week to deflect from Andrew. D:

[Crimson Dynamo]

I am worried about Andi Peters

Surely he isnt now gay??

:worry:

:fc:

[Saph]

cant believe he turnT gay on the same day Pussycat Dolls and Mutya released music

coincidence?
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[Marsh.]

Oh did MKS die?

[GoldHeart]

I am worried about Andi Peters

Surely he isnt now gay??

:worry:

:fc:

I think peters is just theatrical, stop trying to out people due to mannerisms :rolleyes: .

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think peters is just theatrical, stop trying to out people due to mannerisms :rolleyes: .

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[GoldHeart]

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Liam will come for you

[Crimson Dynamo]

Liam will come for you

you may wish to rephrase that

[Liam-]

Liam will come for you

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[Beso]

Gordon the gophers bum is in tatters

[Beso]

I assume they are best friends irl and he requested that Holly was there to help him go through with it

He calls her the big sister he never had....makes you wonder what his wife has been for all these years...but each to thier own:shrug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Marsh.]

He calls her the big sister he never had....makes you wonder what his wife has been for all these years...but each to thier own:shrug:

Well I would hope his wife was nothing like a sister. :umm2:

[GoldHeart]

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LT assumed Andi Peters sexuality :whistle: , I think Andi Peters is just animated.

[Marsh.]

I think Andi Peters is just animated.

No no, he's definitely real.

[Amy Jade]

Is Andi Peter's not gay? I thought he was with Gary Barlow?

[Beso]

Well I would hope his wife was nothing like a sister. :umm2:

Why?


Are you saying he has managed to have sex with her all these years, a gay man? Managing an erection with a woman!

Or is it just another snub to her when he calls holly the big sister he never had.:shrug:

[Morgan.]

No no, he's definitely real.

:laugh2:

[arista]

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Clever Dog

[Zizu]

So he hid it as he thought it would affect his career?

way to go Phil



If he’s been married for 27 years and has fathered kids but .... likes guys .. doesn’t that basically mean he’s bisexual !?

This is all very confusing


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[Zizu]

I am worried about Andi Peters

Surely he isnt now gay??

:worry:

:fc:



I think we need to do some serious reclassifications. .


Back on the day of you liked the same sex you were gay weren’t you ?
Even if it was girl fancying girl ..

Now gay seems to apply to blokes only ..


Thank gawd I just love women :)

It’s soon time for Love Island I can watch relationships developing whilst lusting after Paige , Molly and Natalia :)



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[Marsh.]

Why?


Are you saying he has managed to have sex with her all these years, a gay man? Managing an erection with a woman!

Or is it just another snub to her when he calls holly the big sister he never had.:shrug:

Well unless his daughters belong to the milkman, yes.

[Josy]

If he’s been married for 27 years and has fathered kids but .... likes guys .. doesn’t that basically mean he’s bisexual !?

This is all very confusing


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That's exactly what I thought.

[user104658]

If he’s been married for 27 years and has fathered kids but .... likes guys .. doesn’t that basically mean he’s bisexual !?

This is all very confusing


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Not if he's sexually attracted to men rather than women?

[GoldHeart]

Not if he's sexually attracted to men rather than women?

But he must of been attracted to his wife in the first place :conf:

[user104658]

But he must of been attracted to his wife in the first place :conf:

He had to not find the idea of having sex with her offputting... doesn't mean he doesn't get stonking hard for men :shrug:

[Beso]

Well unless his daughters belong to the milkman, yes.

Blimey..he's bi sexual then yeah..or maybe not as gay as he thinks :shrug:

[GoldHeart]

Blimey..he's bi sexual then yeah..or maybe not as gay as he thinks :shrug:

That's what I'm thinking

[Beso]

He had to not find the idea of having sex with her offputting... doesn't mean he doesn't get stonking hard for men :shrug:

Maybe his wife's been doing him up the bum with a strap on for years. ..

On his wages.

[jet]

Maybe his wife's been doing him up the bum with a strap on for years. ..

On his wages.

Parmy, could you just not....:hehe:

[Kizzy]

But they are both victims of homophobia, hence why it has taken so long for him to be able to do this. This thread alone shows that ignorance does still exist as much as it did decades ago. It’s really sad tbh.

He's been gay all of five minutes and already you're already painting him a victim. .. Also I don't know what forum you're on but reading this thread there's nothing but support for him, his wife and his kids :/

[Cherie]

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:joker:

[Cherie]

It would have been better to possibly have his wife there with him so she could have explained her stance on it and showed her support to stop the theorising about how she is or is not taking it

Yes, he made it all about him, there is a couple in this coming out

[Kizzy]

Maybe his wife insisted on the confession?...

[Cherie]

Maybe his wife insisted on the confession?...

Maybe ..!

[Mystic Mock]

Well I would hope his wife was nothing like a sister. :umm2:

This.

[thesheriff443]

Maybe he spent to long in make up.

[Kate!]

Maybe he spent to long in make up.

Its the coat he wore in Josephs amazing technicoloured dreamcoat musical that has turned him. Xx

[thesheriff443]

Its the coat he wore in Josephs amazing technicoloured dreamcoat musical that has turned him. Xx

I closed my eyes drew the curtains to see for certain any dick will do.

I think that’s how the song goes.

[thesheriff443]

I didn’t like him when he was straight I still don’t like him now he is gay.

If his wife married him truly believing he was straight and he had doubts about his sexuality and just went through the motions then he is a nasty excuse of a man.

Does it take 57 years to find out you are gay?

[Babayaro.]

I didn’t like him when he was straight I still don’t like him now he is gay.

If his wife married him truly believing he was straight and he had doubts about his sexuality and just went through the motions then he is a nasty excuse of a man.

Does it take 57 years to find out you are gay?

I hardly belive he went through the motions for 27 years fgs.

And no, it doesn't take 57 years to find out that you are gay. But for some, and in this instance, Philip, it takes that length of time to feel comfortable enough with your sexuality that you no longer feel the need to hide it.


How is that so difficult to understand?

[Marsh.]

Yes, he made it all about him, there is a couple in this coming out

Tbf to him, no he didn't.

Fair play to him for actually acknowledging that whilst a burden has been lifted in him coming out and being honest, there's still a family that is hurting.

[Marsh.]

I didn’t like him when he was straight I still don’t like him now he is gay.

Well, it would be a bit strange if you suddenly liked him just because he said he was gay.

[hijaxers]

Well, it would be a bit strange if you suddenly liked him just because he said he was gay.

Well i think he's a total turd ! blackmail in background ? cos why would he come out after lying like **** for so many years ~ bastard

[Marsh.]

Well i think he's a total turd ! blackmail in background ? cos why would he come out after lying like **** for so many years ~ bastard

Bit strange. You've made a lot of assumptions there about something none of us know.

[Swan]

My mum phoned me to tell me about this (yeah weird) and honestly my first thought was "what, he never came out before" because i honestly thought he was already out, had no idea he was married to a woman and has children. But anyway yeah good luck to him.

[thesheriff443]

I hardly belive he went through the motions for 27 years fgs.

And no, it doesn't take 57 years to find out that yoy are gay. But for some, and in this instance, Philip, it takes that length of time to feel comfortable enough with your sexuality that you no longer feel the need to hide it.


How is that so difficult to understand?

Very, he is not the first gay to come out, but he has lived as a straight man for 57 years. like many have said being gay is not a choice it’s who you are.

Plus being gay does not automatically make you a nice person plenty of cases of gay men with wives and families shagging men in secret.

[Babayaro.]

Very, he is not the first gay to come out, but he has lived as a straight man for 57 years. like many have said being gay is not a choice it’s who you are.

Plus being gay does not automatically make you a nice person plenty of cases of gay men with wives and families shagging men in secret.

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make here?

[Marsh.]

Very, he is not the first gay to come out, but he has lived as a straight man for 57 years. like many have said being gay is not a choice it’s who you are.

Plus being gay does not automatically make you a nice person plenty of cases of gay men with wives and families shagging men in secret.

There's no suggestion he's done that. There's plenty of straight men married with kids who shag other women in secret. Not sure why the assumption he's leading a dirty double life just because he's gay. :shrug:

[Scarlett.]

Its worth remembering that its only in the past 20 or so years that being gay has been so widely accepted, so people of Phillip's generation were more inclined to supress these feelings and keep it secret.

[thesheriff443]

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make here?

I believe him coming out is because he has met some one and that’s why he has come out now if not he would still be wanking to gay porn.

Graham Norton rylan Clark Julian clary Eddie izzard and many more all successful gay tv personalities being gay is not a dirty word.

[hijaxers]

There's no suggestion he's done that. There's plenty of straight men married with kids who shag other women in secret. Not sure why the assumption he's leading a dirty double life just because he's gay. :shrug:

No ~ no assumption at all ~ but why now ?

[thesheriff443]

Wife said she had her suspicions when he said can I call you Dave.

[hijaxers]

He disgusts me ! my daughter is gay so don't start !

[thesheriff443]

He disgusts me ! my daughter is gay so don't start !

Who is that to?

[hijaxers]

Who is that to?

Not you

[Marsh.]

No ~ no assumption at all ~ but why now ?

Lots of assumptions.

[Zizu]

Just seem the This Morning clip and he doesn’t look well at all .. he looked suddenly older and thinner in the face ..


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[Marsh.]

Just seem the This Morning clip and he doesn’t look well at all .. he looked suddenly older and thinner in the face ..


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He's looked like that for a long while now. He does say he's struggled for the "last few years" so this explains it. His mental health had deteriorated due to it.

[GoldHeart]

He's looked like that for some time , but I don't watch morning show .

[Marsh.]

The hot tub comment from Eamonn was quite telling too tbh. Sounds like it's an "arrangement" in their marriage that has been the case for a long time.

[Beso]

Its worth remembering that its only in the past 20 or so years that being gay has been so widely accepted, so people of Phillip's generation were more inclined to supress these feelings and keep it secret.

I think you will find its nearer 40

[GoldHeart]

The hot tub comment from Eamonn was quite telling too tbh. Sounds like it's an "arrangement" in their marriage that has been the case for a long time.

I thought people said there was no mention of him playing away.

[Scarlett.]

I think you will find its nearer 40

The last 20 or so years is when it's started getting more accepted widespread, before then you still had a lot of slurs and a lot of comedy shows just using gay people as a joke (even Friends is heavily guilty of this)

[Beso]

The last 20 or so years is when it's started getting more accepted widespread, before then you still had a lot of slurs and a lot of comedy shows just using gay people as a joke (even Friends is heavily guilty of this)

Ive never noticed to be honest..I will keep an eye out for stuff in the future when I'm surfing youtube and stuff.

:cool:

[Marsh.]

I thought people said there was no mention of him playing away.

There isn't.

[Scarlett.]

Ive never noticed to be honest..I will keep an eye out for stuff in the future when I'm surfing youtube and stuff.

:cool:

Because my dad came out as gay, I always kept an eye on that sort of stuff, and times have gotten easier and easier, even more so in these past 10 years

[MB.]

I think you will find its nearer 40

Ah yes, Section 28 was famously lifted 40 years ago, in 2000

[GoldHeart]

Old comedy shows are of their time & dated ,is anyone surprised they made jokes about it :shrug: .

I was more annoyed by the on off relationship of Ross & Rachel :sleep:, and watching the repeats just confirms how unhealthy their relationship was. And how emotional unstable they both were.

Both got easily jealous & both selfish & hypocritical. My least favourite characters in Friends.

And Ross especially was a very flawed character, if he was a real person he'd need to see a psychiatrist. He's got soo many issues :facepalm: , and done so many weird things.

[Twosugars]

I believe him coming out is because he has met some one and that’s why he has come out now if not he would still be wanking to gay porn.

Graham Norton rylan Clark Julian clary Eddie izzard and many more all successful gay tv personalities being gay is not a dirty word.

Eddie izzard is not gay. He is a straight transvestite.

[Beso]

Because my dad came out as gay, I always kept an eye on that sort of stuff, and times have gotten easier and easier, even more so in these past 10 years


That must have been all sorts of mixtures of emotions for you..

Tbh though.Im not the best person for this discussion..if you do jyst want to unload to someone there are many willing to listen and understand you on here better than I can.

I just hope your a happy soul, that makes me happy.

[Marsh.]

Old comedy shows are of their time & dated ,is anyone surprised they made jokes about it :shrug:

Obviously.

People are simply pointing out the change in times.

[GoldHeart]

Eddie izzard is not gay. He is a straight transvestite.

For years Izzard has been known as a cross dresser, but didn't he recently identify as something else? Or have I got that wrong ?.

[Marsh.]

I believe him coming out is because he has met some one and that’s why he has come out now if not he would still be wanking to gay porn.

Graham Norton rylan Clark Julian clary Eddie izzard and many more all successful gay tv personalities being gay is not a dirty word.

Ah, yes, Rylan Clark who had to come out as a public figure in the 1980s.

[Twosugars]

The last 20 or so years is when it's started getting more accepted widespread, before then you still had a lot of slurs and a lot of comedy shows just using gay people as a joke (even Friends is heavily guilty of this)

Well said Scarlett. People have short memories when it suits them.
Many gays and lesbians felt compelled to pretend they were straight.
Many entered into marriages and made their lives and their spouses lives unhappy to a varying extent.
Just bc it is acceptable now doesnt mean that older people are not still trapped with the consequences of pretending to be straight back then.

[MB.]

Ah, yes, Rylan Clark who had to come out as a public figure in the 1980s.

She's looking stunning for 63!

[GoldHeart]

Ah, yes, Rylan Clark who had to come out as a public figure in the 1980s.

Rylan is as straight as a rainbow, he's never had to come out .

[Marsh.]

Rylan is as straight as a rainbow, he's never had to come out .

I guess the point went over your head, huh.

[GoldHeart]

I guess the point went over your head, huh.

I was joking with you jeeez marsh :facepalm: :joker:

[Marsh.]

I was joking with you jeeez marsh :facepalm: :joker:

I guess the joke went over my head, huh.

[Scarlett.]

That must have been all sorts of mixtures of emotions for you..

Tbh though.Im not the best person for this discussion..if you do jyst want to unload to someone there are many willing to listen and understand you on here better than I can.

I just hope your a happy soul, that makes me happy.

To be honest, I remember not really being too bothered about it at the time, after he came out, he was so much happier in life, my mum stood by him too. Now I have a second dad who is as important to me as my actual dad is too.

[Twosugars]

For years Izzard has been known as a cross dresser, but didn't he recently identify as something else? Or have I got that wrong ?.

Not that I'm aware of.
Straight bloke who finds wearing male and female clothes enjoyable.
Same like Grayson Perry.

[GoldHeart]

I guess the joke went over my head, huh.

Yes it did , as I was just confirming the obvious :shrug:

[GoldHeart]

Not that I'm aware of.
Straight bloke who finds wearing male and female clothes enjoyable.
Same like Grayson Perry.

He's identifying as Transgender now , but I still think he's a cross dresser .

https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/film/110727083/eddie-izzard-coming-out-as-transgender-the-greatest-gift-to-myself

[Twosugars]

He's identifying as Transgender now , but I still think he's a cross dresser .

https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/film/110727083/eddie-izzard-coming-out-as-transgender-the-greatest-gift-to-myself

That's news to me. Thank you.

Still, not gay as sheriff said.

[GoldHeart]

That's news to me. Thank you.

Still, not gay as sheriff said.

I personally think he's still just a cross dresser but is putting another label on it .

I knew I didn't imagine him saying it though :joker:.

[Twosugars]

I personally think he's still just a cross dresser but is putting another label on it .

I knew I didn't imagine him saying it though :joker:.

I didn't know.

[Beso]

The only people they were kidding when they entered into marriage were themselves..it wasn't that fashionable or necessary to get married 29 years ago.

[Beso]

To be honest, I remember not really being too bothered about it at the time, after he came out, he was so much happier in life, my mum stood by him too. Now I have a second dad who is as important to me as my actual dad is too.

And how's your mum?

I'm more bothered about your relationship with her about it all in this discussion.

But again, I'm not the best person to be discussing this with:nono:

[Beso]

I personally think he's still just a cross dresser but is putting another label on it .

I knew I didn't imagine him saying it though :joker:.

A cross dresser upper..

Hence the lip stick.

[Twosugars]

The only people they were kidding when they entered into marriage were themselves..it wasn't that fashionable or necessary to get married 29 years ago.

I'm not discussing it with you.

[Barry.]

Good on him!

[Marsh.]

The only people they were kidding when they entered into marriage were themselves..it wasn't that fashionable or necessary to get married 29 years ago.

Did they say they got married because it was necessary or fashionable?

[Scarlett.]

And how's your mum?

I'm more bothered about your relationship with her about it all in this discussion.

But again, I'm not the best person to be discussing this with:nono:

She died 17 years ago, from an illness she'd had since I was pretty young. My life sounds kinda like a soap when I go back and describe everything :laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

She died 17 years ago, from an illness she'd had since I was pretty young. My life sounds kinda like a soap when I go back and describe everything :laugh:

That's sad to hear Scarlett.

And tbf some people's lives can be more dramatic than others, just as long as you don't start hearing about someone's twin being hidden behind a mirror or portrait like out of Sunset Beach I think it was, then your life isn't a Soap.:laugh:

I hope that you're doing okay anyway Scarlett.:)

[arista]

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[MB.]

Between the Mirror and the Sun, I've come to the shocking realisation that tabloids have no idea how to use an ellipsis properly

[Ammi]

...I’m coming to terms with it, MB...

[Ammi]

...to...terms with...it..

[Ammi]

The last 20 or so years is when it's started getting more accepted widespread, before then you still had a lot of slurs and a lot of comedy shows just using gay people as a joke (even Friends is heavily guilty of this)

....working in children’s TV as well, I think would have made it difficult for him...these are different times but even now..?...there can be restrictions placed on ‘gay’ that aren’t the same for ‘straight’...

[Ammi]

To be honest, I remember not really being too bothered about it at the time, after he came out, he was so much happier in life, my mum stood by him too. Now I have a second dad who is as important to me as my actual dad is too.

...I’m glad that you have two great dads, who also have each other’s love...:love:..

[James]

I noticed this article, relevant to what you've been talking about in this thread, about women who find out about their husbands after many years of marriage.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51413187

[Ammi]

...I’d literally just read that, James...:laugh:..I’ve been looking at stories of people who ‘came out’ later in life, from both sides of the relationship if they’ve had a long term relationship/marriage...maybe for some, it’s something that they ‘block’, so there lives can still feel fairly complete until they start to realise an emptiness they’d pushed to the side before...especially as with someone like Philip Scofield, who has had so much in his life to focus on...his life has been so filled with great opportunities/great working life/great family/great friends etc...so that enabling that sub conscious blocking to become easier and to be sustained through much time...

...there’s a great quote from an author, which feels as though it might apply...


...’the greatest illusion’ said the mole...’is that life should be perfect’...

[thesheriff443]

It’s funny how all the ficus is on poor Phil being gay but having to hide it, he has been lying to his wife of 27 years.

He was asked was he gay back in the nineties had he ever slept with a man and was his marriage to hide the fact he was gay.


We don’t know the full details of how long his wife knew but making Phil out a tormented soul is utter crap.

He has got it off his little chest but left his wife now to deal with it.

[thesheriff443]

That's news to me. Thank you.

Still, not gay as sheriff said.

Sorry Eddie was not gay, will add paul o grady, Gok wan, Alan carr.

[Cherie]

The hot tub comment from Eamonn was quite telling too tbh. Sounds like it's an "arrangement" in their marriage that has been the case for a long time.

Apparently that was a joke, the ‘fans’ are up in arms with Eamonn making a few light hearted comments, but Phil has thanked him for lightening the mood

[Lewismacfarlane]

Well done to Philip for the interview yesterday hope he and his family get the respect they deserve

[Crimson Dynamo]

Well done to Philip for the interview yesterday hope he and his family get the respect they deserve

what do you mean by that?

[Liam-]

I’ll probably never say this again, but Eamonn did the right thing yesterday, coming out is such an intense thing, a little humour and lightness is definitely needed

[Ammi]

I’ll probably never say this again, but Eamonn did the right thing yesterday, coming out is such an intense thing, a little humour and lightness is definitely needed

...it’s okay, I have you on tape recording it as saying it...blackmail is a wonderful thing...:fan:..

[Lewismacfarlane]

what do you mean by that?

Just hope they get space from the press we know what there like especially a certain guy who writes for the sun

[Twosugars]

Sorry Eddie was not gay, will add paul o grady, Gok wan, Alan carr.

I'm not sure what is the relevance of the current gay tv personalities to his decision to marry decades ago.

[Kizzy]

what do you mean by that?

:joker:

[thesheriff443]

I'm not sure what is the relevance of the current gay tv personalities to his decision to marry decades ago.

Successful openly gay presenters, it’s in answer to people that think Phil kept his secret because it would kill his career.

[Cherie]

They showed a clip on the news last night, Ruth running up and hugging him like her life depended on it, after how awkward and frosty they were on stage at the NTAs :skull:

I wonder if LW will have Steph on, would be nice to hear her story

[Twosugars]

Successful openly gay presenters, it’s in answer to people that think Phil kept his secret because it would kill his career.

Not really.

The situation for sexual minorities only improved over the last 60 years or so. It improved dramatically and back then it was bloody awful.
To use the current state to assess decisions from the past is lazy and wrong.
Also, coming out is not just about the career. The person needs to come out to themselves first, others around him and then it's about the career.
We don't know at what point he admitted to himself he was gay. People can lie to themselves successfully their whole lives. He might have thought he was bisexual.
Then his family. I can well imagine somebody putting things off year by year thinking how hurt they may be and not having the courage.
Decisions like marriage followed by kids are difficult to undo and when was exactly the right moment? At least now his kids are grown up.
At the end of the day it's society's homophobia of the past that's to blame.
Not good saying, oh you got it good now so why you were not brave when it was bad. Different circumstances.

[Scarlett.]

That's sad to hear Scarlett.

And tbf some people's lives can be more dramatic than others, just as long as you don't start hearing about someone's twin being hidden behind a mirror or portrait like out of Sunset Beach I think it was, then your life isn't a Soap.:laugh:

I hope that you're doing okay anyway Scarlett.:)

I am, it's been a long time since then, well, its actually 17 years tommorow it happened.

[Beso]

If he is getting erect with women he is not a proper gay.

[Kizzy]

His use of language is very odd, he said he is ' coming to terms' with being gay... this is the sort of language you might use if you're diagnosed with a terminal illness :/

[Twosugars]

His use of language is very odd, he said he is ' coming to terms' with being gay... this is the sort of language you might use if you're diagnosed with a terminal illness :/

Could be internalised homophobia :shrug:

[Liam-]

His use of language is very odd, he said he is ' coming to terms' with being gay... this is the sort of language you might use if you're diagnosed with a terminal illness :/

It’s a very common phrase for someone who has grown up in either a time or environment where homosexuality is frowned upon

[Crimson Dynamo]

Maybe his wife has been having an affair for years, getting her 5 a day elsewhere?

[Marsh.]

If he is getting erect with women he is not a proper gay.

You're obsessed with Phil's erection.

[Marsh.]

Apparently that was a joke, the ‘fans’ are up in arms with Eamonn making a few light hearted comments, but Phil has thanked him for lightening the mood

Was it?
I know the "thought you were resigning" one was but the hot tub seemed more sincere.

[thesheriff443]

Phil was getting bad press, did a journalist dig a bit deeper and unearth a time bomb waiting to go off.

I don’t believe he just woke up one day and said I’ve got it, I’m gay.

[Crimson Dynamo]

You're obsessed with Phil's erection.

marsh, we have all thought about that silver fox's blood engorged purple love truncheon, lets face facts

:nono:

:drool:

[arista]

If he is getting erect with women he is not a proper gay.

He imagined she was a Fella...................

[Crimson Dynamo]

He imagined she was a Fella...................

https://i2-prod.dailyrecord.co.uk/incoming/article14436285.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/0_The-X-Factor-2012.jpg

[thesheriff443]

marsh, we have all thought about that silver fox's blood engorged purple love truncheon, lets face facts

:nono:

:drool:

Come lt, don’t tell everyone.

[Cherie]

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/celebrity/phillip-schofields-daughter-molly-shows-her-support-for-this-morning-star-as-he-comes-out-as-gay/ar-BBZMXdO?ocid=spartanntp


Phils eldest daughter tweets her support, I would have expected some comment from Steph by now, his mother, her mother and father have all commented so far

was just looking at their 25th Wedding celebrations from March 2018, if he has been struggling with this for years its a wonder they didn't keep it more low key?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/5941205/phillip-schofield-wife-stephanie-lowe-wedding-anniversary/

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/celebrity/phillip-schofields-daughter-molly-shows-her-support-for-this-morning-star-as-he-comes-out-as-gay/ar-BBZMXdO?ocid=spartanntp


Phils eldest daughter tweets her support, I would have expected some comment from Steph by now, his mother, her mother and father have all commented so far

was just looking at their 25th Wedding celebrations from March 2018, if he has been struggling with this for years its a wonder they didn't keep it more low key?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/5941205/phillip-schofield-wife-stephanie-lowe-wedding-anniversary/

the whole thing smells of sickly sweet BS

[Beso]

You're obsessed with Phil's erection.

I'm not discussing it with you.:hehe:

[Crimson Dynamo]

According to LBC he has done a major interview with a Sunday Newspaper tomorrow


:whistle:

[TomC]

I think you will find its nearer 40

A majority of people wanted homosexuality recriminalised just 33 years ago in the midst of the AIDS epidemic, just to set the record straight.

[arista]

According to LBC he has done a major interview with a Sunday Newspaper tomorrow


:whistle:


Ka Ching

[Zizu]

According to LBC he has done a major interview with a Sunday Newspaper tomorrow


:whistle:



I like the bloke but I always kinda assumed he was gay ... it never crossed my mind he was anything but that


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[Marsh.]

Phil was getting bad press, did a journalist dig a bit deeper and unearth a time bomb waiting to go off.

I don’t believe he just woke up one day and said I’ve got it, I’m gay.

He literally said it's been "the last few years" leading to it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Funny how drag race arrives in the UK and now The Silver Fox turns gay?

:suspect:

[Marsh.]

Funny how drag race arrives in the UK and now The Silver Fox turns gay?

:suspect:

Baga Chipz wouldn't go near him!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Baga Chipz wouldn't go near him!

she would be so lucky

[Cherie]

Was it?
I know the "thought you were resigning" one was but the hot tub seemed more sincere.

:oh: I have had to watch this now to see, it was definitely an off the cuff joke, you just don't understand top Irish bantz :hmph:

[bots]

in my experience, anyone that promotes the sickly sweet notion that everything is perfect in a relationship is talking through their ass.

[Marsh.]

:oh: I have had to watch this now to see, it was definitely an off the cuff joke, you just don't understand top Irish bantz :hmph:

Well, I got that it was a joke but made of things that actually happen.

Their families holiday/party together regularly so I can definitely see them 'hot-tubbing'. :inamood:

[Marsh.]

in my experience, anyone that promotes the sickly sweet notion that everything is perfect in a relationship is talking through their ass.

Who's done this?

[Marsh.]

I feel for all the DSers who spend their mornings posting disgust at how he "letches" over Holly and is obsessed with her like a dirty old man. They got it so wrong. :hehe:

[Crimson Dynamo]

This vid id doing the rounds. No idea if its true but well lets see as the days go by

Kyce8KwLGiQ

[Marsh.]

Not the Pirates of the Caribbean soundtrack!

[Marsh.]

This vid id doing the rounds. No idea if its true but well lets see as the days go by

Kyce8KwLGiQ

Sorry, but, he comes out as gay so they find someone he worked with was also gay so "two gay men = dirty affair"? :think:

[arista]

So Phil wants lads

[Crimson Dynamo]

Sorry, but, he comes out as gay so they find someone he worked with was also gay so "two gay men = dirty affair"? :think:

who is 18

[Marsh.]

who is 18

So?

This is veering dangerously into gay = predator territory.

[Crimson Dynamo]

So?

This is veering dangerously into gay = predator territory.

dont be ridiculous, a 51 year old man and an 18 year old boy? vile

if true its the end of his career


just imagine it was Eamon and an 18 year old girl FFS

[Marsh.]

dont be ridiculous

I'm not being ridiculous.

He's come out as gay and within 24 hours someone has accused him of abusing a teenager. All with zero proof. :shrug:

[Liam-]

The amount of info range that always rears it’s head when things like this happen is astonishing, before he came out he was perving over Holly, a grown woman, now he’s out he’s already being accused of selections behaviour with teenagers, grim

[Crimson Dynamo]

The amount of info range that always rears it’s head when things like this happen is astonishing, before he came out he was perving over Holly, a grown woman, now he’s out he’s already being accused of selections behaviour with teenagers, grim

here did you get the holly info from?

[Twosugars]

dont be ridiculous, a 51 year old man and an 18 year old boy? vile

if true its the end of his career


just imagine it was Eamon and an 18 year old girl FFS

Do you have any more wild speculations to post?

Dont let the lack of factual basis hold you back

[Crimson Dynamo]

we shall see

we shall see

:skull:

[Liam-]

‘Well why didn’t he come out sooner?! Coward!’

This is why, the second he does people are trying to make him look like a letch, ****ing shameful

[Zizu]

dont be ridiculous, a 51 year old man and an 18 year old boy? vile



if true its the end of his career





just imagine it was Eamon and an 18 year old girl FFS



I dread to think what Holmes he gets up to to be fair - he’s a slimeball


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[thesheriff443]

we shall see

we shall see

:skull:

I’m with you on this, nothing wrong with being gay but he has not been carrying a heavy cross around for years.

He has been living a privileged life with the trappings of success, fame and money.

[Marsh.]

I’m with you on this, nothing wrong with being gay but he has not been carrying a heavy cross around for years.

He has been living a privileged life with the trappings of success, fame and money.

Money is only one worry or struggle he's not had to endure. That's not the be all and end all of happiness though.

[AnnieK]

I’m with you on this, nothing wrong with being gay but he has not been carrying a heavy cross around for years.

He has been living a privileged life with the trappings of success, fame and money.

The likes of Robin Williams had a "privileged life" surrounded by fame, success and obscene amounts of money and we all know how that turned out. Some things are just bigger than material trappings

[thesheriff443]

The likes of Robin Williams had a "privileged life" surrounded by fame, success and obscene amounts of money and we all know how that turned out. Some things are just bigger than material trappings

Some people are going through far worse while sat in a cold home and no food.

Some people can’t be helped some can’t help themselves, do I have any sympathy for Phil hell no, I have it for his wife who will have had her life turned upside down.

Poor Phil was so tormented but happy to get dressed up in his shooting gear to shoot game birds with someone I know.

It’s seems I’m gay is the new race card.

[Marsh.]

Some people are going through far worse while sat in a cold home and no food.

Some people can’t be helped some can’t help themselves, do I have any sympathy for Phil hell no, I have it for his wife who will have had her life turned upside down.

Poor Phil was so tormented but happy to get dressed up in his shooting gear to shoot game birds with someone I know.

It’s seems I’m gay is the new race card.

What a narrow minded view of the world.

Yes, people are starving in the world. Does that make your life perfect with no problems? Given that you live in a rich country? No, so why would that be any different for someone else?

As for your last sentence, pathetic.

"Depression doesn't exist, I saw them smile yesterday!"

[Beso]

A majority of people wanted homosexuality recriminalised just 33 years ago in the midst of the AIDS epidemic, just to set the record straight.

Post the poll.

[Cherie]

Odd that supportive Steph who has allegedly been privvy to this information for years has remained silent, maybe shes been too busy today and will support him in public tomorrow

[thesheriff443]

Odd that supportive Steph who has allegedly been privvy to this information for years has remained silent, maybe shes been too busy today and will support him in public tomorrow

It’s telling, because if she was so supportive and been aware for years should would have been right next to him on the show giving a clear picture of a united front.

[Marsh.]

It’s telling, because if she was so supportive and been aware for years should would have been right next to him on the show giving a clear picture of a united front.

She's never put herself in the limelight through his whole career.

[Cherie]

She's never put herself in the limelight through his whole career.

She could release a statement via his management, she has done shows with him and attended award shows, its not like we have never seen her

[Marsh.]

She could release a statement via his management, she has done shows with him and attended award shows, its not like we have never seen her

I never said we'd never seen her.

She could do many things, but we don't know her.

[TomC]

Post the poll.

It was a poll The Sun took in 1987 and the headline was ‘You Say - Outlaw the gays’. I’m just trying to make clear that people haven’t been unanimously okay with gays for long, and certainly not in the 80s.

[Jigs]

This vid id doing the rounds. No idea if its true but well lets see as the days go by

Kyce8KwLGiQ

“Phil’s sexuality was an open secret and he took young gay employees under his wing”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/phillip-schofields-open-secret-two-21459441.amp

Phil’s Team spinning the story in their favour?

[Rob!]

“Phil’s sexuality was an open secret and he took young gay employees under his wing”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/phillip-schofields-open-secret-two-21459441.amp

Phil’s Team spinning the story in their favour?

Yeah, Schofe is a peado I guess now.

[GoldHeart]

Why are people trying to OUT Andi Peters ? , i guess Lionel Blair is screwed then??. Seen as anyone who doesn't fit the BUTCH MASCULINE stereotype is then gay? :rolleyes: .

[arista]

[Turns out he was shagging a dude in the crew, who threatened to out him, and had no choice but to drop the facade.

Brave and stunning? or just no choice.]

A tweet with the real story.

[arista]

According to LBC he has done a major interview with a Sunday Newspaper tomorrow


:whistle:


Yes Full Front page of today's
Sun On Sunday
BBC and Sky are not putting that Front page up for view?

[Josy]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/entertainment/celebrity/phillip-schofields-wife-stephanie-lowe-21454903

Not sure how true it is, apparently it's a friend of hers that's gave the media this info

[Ammi]

...there is just so much/too much conflicting information/mis-Information with this and what is the truth of the story atm...some media still stating his wife’s full support...and others, not so much...some media saying that his sexuality has been an ‘open secret’ on the This Morning set for a long time...and others saying that when his ‘reveal’ interview was recorded, the crew members were shocked..obviously every media outlet is a-scrambling atm for their stories and their front pages..and added to that is the element of toxic buzz of social media when stories like this are in current news...

[thesheriff443]

You can dress it up anyway you want.

But Phil has been lying to the one person that has given him everything she had in terms of love loyalty and support.

A liar is a liar no matter what they are lying about.

[thesheriff443]

He has done an interview with the sun and says he knew he was gay when he wed his wife but was naive thinking he could suppress he was gay.

So just 27 years of lies.

[Beso]

It was a poll The Sun took in 1987 and the headline was ‘You Say - Outlaw the gays’. I’m just trying to make clear that people haven’t been unanimously okay with gays for long, and certainly not in the 80s.

Not the sun being the voice of the nation when it suits.:hehe:

[GoldHeart]

He has done an interview with the sun and says he knew he was gay when he wed his wife but was naive thinking he could suppress he was gay.

So just 27 years of lies.

Why did he still go through with the marriage, I thought he said he's only known a few years which is it for him :facepalm: :conf: .

[Ammi]

..I guess we all process things differently in our thoughts...his expressed joy and happiness in his marriage to his wife and their joy in parenting their daughters together...and that ‘perfection’ has enabled him to suppress his sexuality to the point that he convinced himself that it wasn’t a ‘lie’ for many years...

[Lewismacfarlane]

I watched the interview with holly was very emotional well done to Eamonn for lightning the mood just what was nedded at the right time

[Cherie]

He gave his interview to the Sun :umm2:

Stay classy Phil

[arista]

Why did he still go through with the marriage, I thought he said he's only known a few years which is it for him :facepalm: :conf: .


Because he worked for the BBC , then ITV
His Wife was next to him
when he met Royals.

She was a Doormat.

[Cherie]

I never said we'd never seen her.

She could do many things, but we don't know her.

We don’t know him either it seems

[Alf]

There's more to this story, I can feel it in my bones.

[arista]

There's more to this story, I can feel it in my bones.


Bloody Right Alf
the much Younger Gay Guy
who also works in his team at ITV
is the real story.

No way could he say that Live on ITV
Friday.
Its like the Script was co written by his Producer.

[Liam-]

A newly out gay man having a gay personal assistant, doesn’t automatically mean that they were shagging the entire time, the ingrained homophobia stinks.

What’s the proof of the smear campaign, his gay runner left his job for another one? National shocker, man takes better job! :omgno:

[arista]

A newly out gay man having a gay personal assistant, doesn’t automatically mean that they were shagging the entire time, the ingrained homophobia stinks.


His Much Younger Personal Assistant
needs his Own Front Page

Bollocks to Your Homophobia
Me and Alf and LT
only want the Whole Truth.

[Alf]

A newly out gay man having a gay personal assistant, doesn’t automatically mean that they were shagging the entire time, the ingrained homophobia stinks.You can no longer shut people down from speaking out, by labeling them homophobes or racists, ect. The boy cried wolf too many times, and now that ship has sailed.

[arista]

"his gay runner left his job for another one? National shocker, man takes better job!"

Yes as others were going to leak the Gay Sex Affair

[Ammi]

...it just doesn’t make sense to me atm, that Holly, Eamonn and Ruth, would offer their complete support in the way that they have ...if this was to ‘conceal’ another story that was about to ‘out’...they’re all so media savvy, it’s what their working lives are...

[Liam-]

His Much Younger Personal Assistant
needs his Own Front Page

Bollocks to Your Homophobia
Me and Alf and LT
only want the Whole Truth.

No, you’re trying to demonise a gay man for the major crime of.. having a gay assistant, it’s gross.

[Jessica.]

I don't like the man at all but you all weren't accusing him of having affairs with any of the young ladies working on the set when you thought he was straight. Him coming out is no reason to suddenly assume seedy things have happened just because of your view of homosexual men. Also, if Holly came out I bet none of you would speculate that she was having a despicable affair with another girl.

[arista]

No, you’re trying to demonise a gay man for the major crime of.. having a gay assistant, it’s gross.


I am Not
Just start with the Bloody Truth.



His Much Younger Gay Fella
was with him for years
at ITV.
Nothing Wrong with Sex at Work
so long as it is Private

Give Him a Front Page

[arista]

I don't like the man at all but you all weren't accusing him of having affairs with any of the young ladies working on the set when you thought he was straight. Him coming out is no reason to suddenly assume seedy things have happened just because of your view of homosexual men. Also, if Holly came out I bet none of you would speculate that she was having a despicable affair with another girl.


If it was a Much Younger Lady
it would be the same thread

[Alf]

No, you’re trying to demonise a gay man for the major crime of.. having a gay assistant, it’s gross.What if the gay assistant was under age when they started an affair? Would that make any difference?

[Ammi]

...Arista, you can’t describe a tweet as the ‘real story’ and say that you're seeking the truth...what you’re seeking is your own truth by describing a tweet as ‘real’...

[Jessica.]

What if the gay assistant was under age when they started an affair? Would that make any difference?That's not an affair, that's abuse, are you calling him a paedophile now?

[Liam-]

I don't like the man at all but you all weren't accusing him of having affairs with any of the young ladies working on the set when you thought he was straight. Him coming out is no reason to suddenly assume seedy things have happened just because of your view of homosexual men. Also, if Holly came out I bet none of you would speculate that she was having a despicable affair with another girl.

Exactly, it’s the typical horrid demonising stereotype of gay men that they all prey on young men, it’s astonishing that it still happens in this day and age, ‘oh he’s gay? Must be bumming all the young lads at work then, dirty bugger!’

It’s homophobia, pure and simple.

And I’d actually argue that a lot of the people accusing Phillip of these things would most likely relish in the idea of Holly having lesbian affairs lbr.

[Alf]

That's not an affair, that's abuse, are you calling him a paedophile now?No, I was asking Liam a question. That is pretty simple to see.

[arista]

...Arista, you can’t describe a tweet as the ‘real story’ and say that you're seeking the truth...what you’re seeking is your truth by describing a tweet as ‘real’...


Look
it was rushed onto a day he does not work
Friday
ITV getting the story on BBCnews just 3mins after
And Live LBC.
The ITV Producer - loved it


Nothing wrong with debating the Truth,


His Poor wife
a Doormat


Ideal to stand next to Phil
when meeting Royals.

[Jessica.]

No, I was asking Liam a question. That is pretty simple to see.It's a ridiculous question, Liam obviously wouldn't condone it, gay men are attracted to other men, not children or teens. If you assume someone has been committing crimes against a minor when you find out they or gay or even find anything to relate abuse to being gay then I think you'd be the one with the problem.

[Ammi]

Look
it was rushed onto a day he does not work
Friday
ITV getting the story on BBCnews just 3mins after
And Live LBC.
The ITV Producer - loved it


Nothing wrong with debating the Truth,


His Poor wife
a Doormat


Ideal to stand next to Phil
when meeting Royals.


...you’re not ‘debating the truth’ though when you’ve already referred to a tweet on social media as the ‘real story’...you’re assuming there’s a ‘front page story’ to be had by saying that his assistant needs his own front page...

[Alf]

It's a ridiculous question, Liam obviously wouldn't condone it, gay men are attracted to other men, not children or teens. If you assume someone has been committing crimes against a minor when you find out they or gay or even find anything to relate abuse to being gay then I think you'd be the one with the problem.Let's wait and see what comes out before we start calling and accusing each other, shall we?

[Jessica.]

Look

it was rushed onto a day he does not work

Friday

ITV getting the story on BBCnews just 3mins after

And Live LBC.

The ITV Producer - loved it





Nothing wrong with debating the Truth,





His Poor wife

a Doormat





Ideal to stand next to Phil

when meeting Royals.It was a day he doesn't work because he was the one being interviewed. :joker: That means nothing. Also, of course the news would report quickly on something they probably were tipped off about when Phil informed the company about the situation.

[Liam-]

If the subject of the affair was underage then it would be heinous and deserve all the attention, scrutiny and condemnation in the world, however, there’s not even any evidence of an affair in the first place, even less evidence of the person being underage and throwing around these accusations because somebody has just come out as gay, is abhorrent and objectively prejudice.

[Jessica.]

Let's wait and see what comes out before we start calling and accusing each other, shall we?Let's wait and see what comes out before we start name-calling and accusing Phillip Schofield, shall we?

[Ammi]

...even if it were all true, it wouldn’t change some undercurrents of prejudice and concerning stereotyping...

[Alf]

Let's wait and see what comes out before we start name-calling and accusing Phillip Schofield, shall we?Where has this happened?

[Alf]

Those who accused Harvey Weinstein before he'd even gone to trial, are they hetrophobes?

Or do you just make the rules up to suit?

[Alf]

...even if it were all true, it wouldn’t change some undercurrents of prejudice and concerning stereotyping..."Undercurrents." A word used when you can't find the truth you want to hear.

[Jessica.]

Those who accused Harvey Weinstein before he'd even gone to trial, are they hetrophobes?

Or do you just make the rules up to suit?It's a bit different if someone has accusers and if they hang out with other abusers

[Alf]

It's a bit different if someone has accusers and if they hang out with other abusersIt's always a bit different.

[Jessica.]

It's always a bit different.You're not making yourself appear to be someone who anyone should listen to if you are talking about paedophiles in a thread about a gay man who has never been accused of doing anything wrong to anyone under age. It's different. Paedophilia is a crime. Being gay is a sexuality, not a crime.

[Ammi]

...’undercurrents’...a word used when it’s appropriate to do so...

[Alf]

You're not making yourself appear to be someone who anyone should listen to if you are talking about paedophiles in a thread about a gay man who has never been accused of doing anything wrong to anyone under age. It's different. Paedophilia is a crime. Being gay is a sexuality, not a crime.You're the only one talking about paedophiles, I haven't mentioned them.

[Jessica.]

You're the only one talking about paedophiles, I haven't mentioned them.So who mentioned Harvey Weinstein? Are you okay? Has anyone checked on you recently?

[Alf]

So who mentioned Harvey Weinstein? Are you okay? Has anyone checked on you recently?What has Weinstein got to do with paedophilia?

[Jessica.]

What has Weinstein got to do with paedophilia?He was accused of raping a teenager

[thesheriff443]

..I guess we all process things differently in our thoughts...his expressed joy and happiness in his marriage to his wife and their joy in parenting their daughters together...and that ‘perfection’ has enabled him to suppress his sexuality to the point that he convinced himself that it wasn’t a ‘lie’ for many years...

Basically ammi he was a coward and put his needs before his wife’s now 27 years later he throws his wife under the bus.

For once can you not stand on the right side instead of constantly sitting in the middle.

[Marsh.]

We don’t know him either it seems

Well of course we don't. I've never met him, I don't know about you.

[thesheriff443]

I have no ill feeling towards Phil and couldn’t care less about the fact he is gay.

But he is not this great person with the courage to come out.

Cowardly man that has been lying for 27 years to a person that has given her life to him.

[Ammi]

Basically ammi he was a coward and put his needs before his wife’s now 27 years later he throws his wife under the bus.

For once can you not stand on the right side instead of constantly sitting in the middle.

...I’m not ‘in the middle’, Sheriff...and if you feel that I constantly sit in the middle then you don’t really listen to my thoughts on many subjects...In my life I’m so familiar with ‘half stories’ and specific ‘truths’ from playground gossip, type situations...and atm we don’t know if there is indeed a ‘right side’ or a ‘wrong side’...I’m very much aware how difficult this must be for both of them atm..

[Twosugars]

Question
You're the only one talking about paedophiles, I haven't mentioned them.
Answer
What if the gay assistant was under age when they started an affair? Would that make any difference?

[Marsh.]

Those who accused Harvey Weinstein before he'd even gone to trial, are they hetrophobes?

Or do you just make the rules up to suit?

Man comes out as gay = immediately accused of taking advantage of underage boys

Man accused of rape after several women come forward to report rape, harrassment and abuse.

Yes, exactly the same Alf.

[Alf]

Question

AnswerSo I ask, where have I mentioned it?

Asking Liam an hypothetical question is what I did. Why do you constantly take things out of context?