Philip Scofield has stated he is Gay

[arista]

On the News Media


He is Live on ITV1HD
this morning


Also debate on LBC live

[Kate!]

Just read this Arista. Am shocked!!! Is he serious or joking?

He has been married to Stephanie for 27 years.

[arista]

Just read this Arista. Am shocked!!! Is he serious or joking?

He has been married to Stephanie for 27 years.



Yes Closet Gays
terrible.


LBC just said there is probably
a News paper headline to come out
with a jilted male ex.

[Crimson Dynamo]

WHAT??

[GoldHeart]

Just read this Arista. Am shocked!!! Is he serious or joking?

He has been married to Stephanie for 27 years.

Makes no sense , he's had a wife and kids and been married for 27 years .

Why has he only just realised this now ? :sleep:

[Niamh.]

Wow his poor wife, imagine feeling like basically your whole adult life was a lie

[Alf]

Well, I was suspicious.

[Elliot]

Omg

[Crimson Dynamo]

is this why all the negative stories about him being awful are about?

[arista]

Wow his poor wife, imagine feeling like basically your whole adult life was a lie


Yes not fair on his Wife

[GoldHeart]

Wow his poor wife, imagine feeling like basically your whole adult life was a lie

Doubt it was a lie , I call bs on this .
The man is pushing 60!!! and you telling me he's only just realised after he was married 27 years to a WOMAN & had 2 kids .

[AnnieK]

OMG - I am shocked, His statement is actually sad and lovely at the same time. His wife and daughters sounds amazing :love:

[Daniel.]

Shook

[AnnieK]

Doubt it was a lie , I call bs on this .
The man is pushing 60!!! and you telling me he's only just realised after he was married 27 years to a WOMAN & had 2 kids .

It won't be the first time something like this has happened to people. Its probably more common than you think - people live the life they think is "normal".

[arista]

WHAT??


According to the Left Winger, LBC
he says its not a big deal.
But will he get a Newspaper Story from a upset Ex.?

[MB.]

H from Steps her impact?

[Crimson Dynamo]

So he hid it as he thought it would affect his career?

way to go Phil

[Cal.]

Sad for his wife more than anything...is that problematic to say?

I bet this is why fake stories have been leaked to the press over the last few months about him feuding with Holly/Ruth/ITV chiefs.

[arista]

Even BBCNewsHD
took a clip from ITV
to show him saying he was Gay

[caprimint]

His post about it is really sweet. I'm happy that he feels comfortable enough to reveal it now :love:

[Crimson Dynamo]

His wife will feel cheated on - all that supportive bollox in his carefully worded PR piece :idc:

[Tony Montana]

Wow!

[caprimint]

Omg his daughters are stunning :love:

[GoldHeart]

It won't be the first time something like this has happened to people. Its probably more common than you think - people live the life they think is "normal".

Conveniently after the rumours of him being difficult to work with :whistle: .

I'm not denying that there has been gay men who have married women etc and then come out , but this just feels so out of character & him & Holly act so silly on the morning program that I can't take them seriously.

He woke up one day and realised he was now gay ? :conf:. He probably just admires other men and finds them attractive. But he's labelling it as gay despite him clearly being attracted to women but whatever.

His marriage wasn't a green card one and it wasn't a marriage of convenience, he was happily married for all those years with 2 kids. Call me a sceptic but I'm not buying what he's selling .

[AnnieK]

Conveniently after the rumours of him being difficult to work with :whistle: .

I'm not denying that there has been gay men who have married women etc and then come out , but this just feels so out of character & him & Holly act so silly on the morning program that I can't take them seriously.

He woke up one day and realised he was now gay ? :conf:. He probably just admires other men and finds them attractive. But he's labelling it as gay despite him clearly being attracted to women but whatever.

His marriage wasn't a green card one and it wasn't a marriage of convenience, he was happily married for all those years with 2 kids. Call me a sceptic but I'm not buying what he's selling .

I do get what you are saying...I guess only time will tell.

I think that there could be a story about to break and so he has had to come forward first. Who knows :shrug:

[Cal.]

Mess I doubt he’d come out as gay just Cos Cos of some articles saying he hates Ruth Langsford. If anything those articles were probably a cover up/PR stunt

[Daniel.]

He's said he was gay, so he is. I can't believe people our saying he's not.

[Crimson Dynamo]

We need a gay to come out as straight, to fix the imbalance :fist:

Come thru Chris Biggins


:fc:

[caprimint]

We need a gay to come out as straight, to fix the imbalance :fist:

Come thru Chris Biggins


:fc:
Ahhhh :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

so much for all Tibbs Gaydar

bloody useless the lot of you

[Nicky91]

slight offtopic note we dutch honestly got a current reality star who is openly gay, but still married to a woman, and has 2 daughters

Martien Meiland, who had won the award for best tv show here ''chateau meiland'' about their bed & breakfast, now they're about to move back to Netherlands from france, also with one of his daughters having her own wine brand


as for Phil's coming out, well there had been other famous people who had girlfriends/wives before their coming out, like Ricky Martin for example

[Morgan.]

Doubt it was a lie , I call bs on this .
The man is pushing 60!!! and you telling me he's only just realised after he was married 27 years to a WOMAN & had 2 kids .

You’re acting as if he’s woken up and decided this. He’s said in statements it’s something he’s been struggling with for a long time, I doubt it’s something he’s just decided on the spot.

[Kazanne]

I did see this on the internet this morning, I just thought it was fake news,if true,yes I'm shocked , I wonder of his wife knew ?

[Crimson Dynamo]

I did see this on the internet this morning, I just thought it was fake news,if true,yes I'm shocked , I wonder of his wife knew ?

he said we have no secrets we have never had any secrets

so he said "will you marry me, oh btw i am gay":conf:


its amazing how money seems to keep people together...

[arista]

[Phillip Schofield comes out as gay
He says: "With the strength and
support of my wife and my daughters,
I have been coming to terms with the fact that I am gay"]

https://news.sky.com/story/phillip-schofield-comes-out-as-gay-11928156

[arista]

[Phillip Schofield comes out as gay
He says: "With the strength and
support of my wife and my daughters,
I have been coming to terms with the fact that I am gay"]

https://news.sky.com/story/phillip-schofield-comes-out-as-gay-11928156

[arista]

I did see this on the internet this morning, I just thought it was fake news,if true,yes I'm shocked , I wonder of his wife knew ?

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/02/07/10/24433644-7977881-After_nearly_27_years_of_marriage_to_his_wife_Step h_he_has_now_a-a-31_1581070367013.jpg

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/02/07/10/24434112-7977881-Kicking_off_the_subject_on_This_Morning_Holly_said _I_think_we_al-a-39_1581070816749.jpg

Today at the start of their show
only.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/02/07/10/24434948-7977881-image-a-56_1581071846594.jpg
More Recent.

[Jigs]

Always suspected it but I was SHOCKED to hear him come out live on This Morning.

He did a good thing. It must have been a huge burden especially since he works in show business and was really well-known probably long before he even fully knew he was gay himself. HOWEVER, I feel uncomfortable on behalf of his poor wife.

His interview with Paul Burrell regarding Paul's sexuality has aged badly...

[Kizzy]

I think there was an expose brewing too.. didnt Alison Hammond used to be a lesbian?

[GoldHeart]

I think there was an expose brewing too.. didnt Alison Hammond used to be a lesbian?

No she isn't , she's always fancied men .
She flirts with many male actors & has a son .

[Kazanne]

Fair play to his wife for supporting him, I am surprised at this news,but hope he can move on without too many people judging him.

[GoldHeart]

Fair play to his wife for supporting him, I am surprised at this news,but hope he can move on without too many people judging him.

The guy wanted attention, why else would he do this now when he's pushing 60.

[Alf]

Now, Gordon in the broom cupboard, makes sense.

[Kazanne]

The guy wanted attention, why else would he do this now when he's pushing 60.

Well I don't think age matters , he must have had his reasons , :shrug:

[Kazanne]

Now, Gordon in the broom cupboard, makes sense.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Liam-]

Good on him for coming out, but I can’t help but be suspicious about the timing of it

[AnnieK]

To be fair, he has looked quite thin and gaunt for a long time this could have been playing on his mind for ages. I wish him and his family well :love:

[GoldHeart]

Well I don't think age matters , he must have had his reasons , :shrug:

26 years of marriage though , 2 kids .
It's confusing, marriage is over now then :rolleyes:

[Crimson Dynamo]

so when did he tell his wife then as they have never had any secrets?

[GoldHeart]

Good on him for coming out, but I can’t help but be suspicious about the timing of it

I keep wondering why now ??

[Scarlett.]

My 2nd dad (my dad's husband) didn't come out til his mid 40s, after 20 years of marriage and two kids, there doesn't have to be a reason for it, sometimes it just takes that long for people to admit it to themselves

[Beso]

I always thought he was anyway.

[Jigs]

I think there was an expose brewing too. Maybe he's had relations with someone or been somewhere that would arouse suspicion and therefore was being blackmailed by someone. It seemed odd that Holly stated the importance of noting "your hand isn't being forced here" because, if anything, that made it seem like it is!

Bless him though. He said he's not looking for same-sex love but I think he's reached a point in his life where he does want it. Why else leave a 27 year marriage if you have no plans to find someone else?

[Strictly Jake]

I hate how people are slating him for finally showing courage

Because of my upbringing and my religion I have never been able to be my true self. I havent got the courage to reveal it to anyone and my family would respond a lot more different to what phils did

I would be disowned

Its a bit different as im bi but I have to keep that a secret and I love my wife and kids to bits. So its not the exact same as phils position but I know how he feels

[Kate!]

I hate how people are slating him for finally showing courage

Because of my upbringing and my religion I have never been able to be my true self. I havent got the courage to reveal it to anyone and my family would respond a lot more different to what phils did

I would be disowned

Its a bit different as im bi but I have to keep that a secret and I love my wife and kids to bits. So its not the exact same as phils position but I know how he feels

Oh Jake. :love: bless you.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I hate how people are slating him for finally showing courage

Because of my upbringing and my religion I have never been able to be my true self. I havent got the courage to reveal it to anyone and my family would respond a lot more different to what phils did

I would be disowned

Its a bit different as im bi but I have to keep that a secret and I love my wife and kids to bits. So its not the exact same as phils position but I know how he feels

are you sure they dont all know already?

[Niamh.]

I hate how people are slating him for finally showing courage

Because of my upbringing and my religion I have never been able to be my true self. I havent got the courage to reveal it to anyone and my family would respond a lot more different to what phils did

I would be disowned

Its a bit different as im bi but I have to keep that a secret and I love my wife and kids to bits. So its not the exact same as phils position but I know how he feels

Because as much as I understand that it must have been very difficult for him he chose to bring someone else into his lie without their knowledge (I presume she didn't know) and that's very unfair, what right does he have to do that to someone? Make their whole life a lie just because his was? If I was her I'd be thinking things like, was he disgusted everytime he slept with me etc

[GoldHeart]

I hate how people are slating him for finally showing courage

Because of my upbringing and my religion I have never been able to be my true self. I havent got the courage to reveal it to anyone and my family would respond a lot more different to what phils did

I would be disowned

Its a bit different as im bi but I have to keep that a secret and I love my wife and kids to bits. So its not the exact same as phils position but I know how he feels

Tbh I was thinking Phil was bi aswell, I guess it just doesn't make sense to me that he's suddenly decided to come out gay ,the timing is weird.
No offence Jake :shrug: .

If he's known for all this time ,was his marriage a lie? . They always seemed happy . Seems strange & his family just accept it. Aren't they shocked?.

[Mitchell]

I hate how people are slating him for finally showing courage

Because of my upbringing and my religion I have never been able to be my true self. I havent got the courage to reveal it to anyone and my family would respond a lot more different to what phils did

I would be disowned

Its a bit different as im bi but I have to keep that a secret and I love my wife and kids to bits. So its not the exact same as phils position but I know how he feels

:love: we’ve got you

[Strictly Jake]

are you sure they dont all know already?

No they dont know and I will never reveal it. Because I dont have to. Its not going to affect my marriage or my life I dont need to act on feelings that are in the back of my mind. I can live my life the way im living it. But I understand how phil must have felt having to tell his family

[Niamh.]

Also, you're bi not gay Jake, he's saying he's gay which means he isn't attracted to women.

[Strictly Jake]

Tbh I was thinking Phil was bi aswell, I guess it just doesn't make sense to me that he's suddenly decided to come out gay ,the timing is weird.
No offence Jake :shrug: .

If he's known for all this time ,was his marriage a lie? . They always seemed happy . Seems strange & his family just accept it. Aren't they shocked?.

Thats what makes it different I suppose. If he is gay then I guess his marriage was a lie. Whereas in my situation I love my wife and am sexually attracted to her. 3 kids in the space of 4 years confirms that :joker:

[Kizzy]

No she isn't , she's always fancied men .
She flirts with many male actors & has a son .

On BB3 she was gay.

[Daniel.]

Because as much as I understand that it must have been very difficult for him he chose to bring someone else into his lie without their knowledge (I presume she didn't know) and that's very unfair, what right does he have to do that to someone? Make their whole life a lie just because his was? If I was her I'd be thinking things like, was he disgusted everytime he slept with me etc

Sounds like he told his wife a few years ago.

[Kizzy]

I hate how people are slating him for finally showing courage

Because of my upbringing and my religion I have never been able to be my true self. I havent got the courage to reveal it to anyone and my family would respond a lot more different to what phils did

I would be disowned

Its a bit different as im bi but I have to keep that a secret and I love my wife and kids to bits. So its not the exact same as phils position but I know how he feels

I feel for you, does your wife know?

[GoldHeart]

Thats what makes it different I suppose. If he is gay then I guess his marriage was a lie. Whereas in my situation I love my wife and am sexually attracted to her. 3 kids in the space of 4 years confirms that :joker:

Your situation IS COMPLETELY different , you are attracted to your wife so it's not a lie, Especially if you had more kids. Does she know your bi or is that secret? . But either way you still fancy women so it's not like Schofield.

And yet he always made it seem like he fancied women, he always seemed happy . Must be a weird marriage he had ,what happens to his wife now ?. Is it over now .

[Strictly Jake]

Your situation IS COMPLETELY different , you are attracted to your wife so it's not a lie, Especially if you had more kids. Does she know your bi or is that secret? . But either way you still fancy women so it's not like Schofield.

And yet he always made it seem like he fancied women, he always seemed happy . Must be a weird marriage he had ,what happens to his wife now ?. Is it over now .

No she doesnt know none of my family do.it may hurt them for no reason because I dont have to act on my feelings so I can keep it a secret...people knew on here though I think

[Josiah.]

I'm really proud of him and I love how supportive his wife, daughters, and extended family are.

One thing that keeps running through my mind is maybe Phillip came out to Steph before they got married, and they decided to keep it under wraps until now.

[AnnieK]

No she doesnt know none of my family do.it may hurt them for no reason because I dont have to act on my feelings so I can keep it a secret...people knew on here though I think

:love:

Just be careful it doesn't become an issue in the future Jakey.....at least you have an outlet here to talk about things.

[Kizzy]

No she doesnt know none of my family do.it may hurt them for no reason because I dont have to act on my feelings so I can keep it a secret...people knew on here though I think

Ah, not sure how I feel about that. I suppose if you wereto act then you would reconsider?

[GoldHeart]

I'm really proud of him and I love how supportive his wife, daughters, and extended family are.

One thing that keeps running through my mind is maybe Phillip came out to Steph before they got married, and they decided to keep it under wraps until now.

Ehhh??? :conf: , why would she still marry him if she knew ? .

[Strictly Jake]

Ah, not sure how I feel about that. I suppose if you wereto act then you would reconsider?

I dont plan on acting on it. I have religious reasons but I dont judge anyone as I know people cant help how they feel, I cant help it but I dont have to act on it but I get how it feels to keep a secret from people for so long

[Crimson Dynamo]

No she doesnt know none of my family do.it may hurt them for no reason because I dont have to act on my feelings so I can keep it a secret...people knew on here though I think

So you have told all of us and not your wife?

[Rob!]

It’s so comforting to know there are so many straight experts on what it’s like to come out on here.

[Strictly Jake]

So you have told all of us and not your wife?

Thats correct. I dont feel the need to hurt her like that when I dont need to

[Niamh.]

It’s so comforting to know there are so many straight experts on what it’s like to come out on here.

I don't know if I'm included in that comment but I'm simply looking at it from the wife's perspective :shrug: Or are straight people not supposed to have feelings?

*If she did know about it then that's a different story obviously

[Mitchell]

I’m not attracted to women, but if there was someone I had a deep connection with that was a female, I wouldn’t rule out them being my life partner, it’s not all about being sexually attracted to someone imo

[GoldHeart]

I dont plan on acting on it. I have religious reasons but I dont judge anyone as I know people cant help how they feel, I cant help it but I dont have to act on it but I get how it feels to keep a secret from people for so long

But you have no reason to act on it if you're in a happy marriage , that would be having an affair :conf: . Or do you mean if you broke up ? .

But I'm surprised your wife doesn't know, but that's your choice .

[Alf]

:laugh::laugh::laugh:I've got another one.

Phil has come out of the broom cupboard.

[Cal.]

I’m so thin

[Braden]

I feel bad for being quite judgemental and critical towards him—not knowing what he has been going through. Major respect to the guy for being open about this.

[Rob!]

I’m so thin

Stop lying in a thread about honesty

[Liam-]

Sounds like his wife knew for a while and was fully supportive, he might be a horror to other people but by the sounds of it, he’s been a wonderful husband and father and provided them all with a wonderful life and Steph herself seems like a great, understanding woman

[Niamh.]

I’m not attracted to women, but if there was someone I had a deep connection with that was a female, I wouldn’t rule out them being my life partner, it’s not all about being sexually attracted to someone imo

Of course but normally people get into relationships and are sexually attracted to each other, if the other person knows that's off the table or you're just going through the motions for their benefit then that's fine but not making your partner aware that that is the case is deceitful and hurtful

[Black Dagger]

Good for him for coming to terms with it all. He's still a wanker.

[Kizzy]

Gordon the gopher my story.....

[Kate!]

So you have told all of us and not your wife?

Nothing wrong with that.

[Cherie]

I was driving and turned on the radio half way through a show where they were talking about closeted gays and then Phil was mentioned I nearly totalled my car :fist:

Good on him I suppose, I wonder if there is a story about to break, wasn't there a rumour about a huge household name being gay a while back?

I don't know why he stuck with his wife for 27 years though, her best years are now behind her and his are just beginning it seems? If she was happy to do it all well and good I guess, I just keep seeing them on that best buys show he does at Christmas all married up?

[Kizzy]

I’m not attracted to women, but if there was someone I had a deep connection with that was a female, I wouldn’t rule out them being my life partner, it’s not all about being sexually attracted to someone imo

It kind of is.. we all have an itch to scratch if your partner is unaware that need is being fulfilled somewhere else then that's decitful.

[GoldHeart]

Nothing wrong with that.

Secrets in a marriage is ok then ?

[Kate!]

Secrets in a marriage is ok then ?

Well its not ideal but in such a case its what they don't know won't hurt them.

[Liam-]

Of course but normally people get into relationships and are sexually attracted to each other, if the other person knows that's off the table or you're just going through the motions for their benefit then that's fine but not making your partner aware that that is the case is deceitful and hurtful

Sexuality is complicated, I was once attracted to women, I imagine the majority of gay people were at one time, attracted to the opposite sex, sexuality develops, yes, some people get into straight relationships out of shame to hide their secret, but a lot of people take time to realise who they are, it doesn’t mean he’s done it to purposely mislead her, it’s not black and white with these situations, yes she might have had a shock when she was told, but on the other hand she could have always suspected and was happy to live with it, they clearly had a sexual relationship.

I always find it gross when there’s a story about a gay person, most of the time it always end up coming back around to ‘aww, but what about straight people?’

[Cherie]

Sexuality is complicated, I was once attracted to women, I imagine the majority of gay people were at one time, attracted to the opposite sex, sexuality develops, yes, some people get int straight relationships out of shame to hide their secret, but a lot of people take time to realise who they are, it doesn’t mean he’s done it to purposely mislead her, it’s not black and white with these situations, yes she might have had a shock when she was told, but on the other hand she could have always suspected and was happy to live with it, they clearly had a sexual relationship.

I always find it gross when there’s a story about a gay person, most of the time it always end up coming back around to ‘aww, but what about straight people?’

but surely there should be equal empathy for both, it's not a competition? that said he is the one who has changed the status of their relationship so why shouldn't people feel empathy for her?

[Beso]

How on earth would he get an erection with his wife if he isn't attracted to women?

[Kate!]

How on earth would he get an erection with his wife if he isn't attracted to women?

Maybe he has a fantasy life.

[Babayaro.]

Yes Closet Gays
terrible.


An ignorant comment like this can be extremely damaging, Arista. Well done.


Why has he only just realised this now ? :sleep:

Everyone is different, and feel comfortable to 'come out' at different points in their life. There is no time limit.

I think we should be commending his brave decision and not spinning a negative on it by criticising his timing.

[Niamh.]

Sexuality is complicated, I was once attracted to women, I imagine the majority of gay people were at one time, attracted to the opposite sex, sexuality develops, yes, some people get into straight relationships out of shame to hide their secret, but a lot of people take time to realise who they are, it doesn’t mean he’s done it to purposely mislead her, it’s not black and white with these situations, yes she might have had a shock when she was told, but on the other hand she could have always suspected and was happy to live with it, they clearly had a sexual relationship.

I always find it gross when there’s a story about a gay person, most of the time it always end up coming back around to ‘aww, but what about straight people?’

I'm not saying "aww what about the straight people" I'm identifying with the women in the couple because I am straight and married and thinking how devastated I would be if that happened to me. I don't know if you're straight or gay Liam but if you're gay maybe that's why you would identify more with Philip?

Also, it's not feeling sorry for her because she's straight, it's feeling sorry for her because she was the one who has been lied to ....

*again unless she did actually know all along which is completely different obviously

[Kizzy]

I'm not saying "aww what about the straight people" I'm identifying with the women in the couple because I am straight, I don't know if you're straight or gay Liam but if you're gay maybe that's why you would identify more with Philip?

Also, it's not feeling sorry for her because she's straight, it's feeling sorry for her because she was the one who has been lied to ....

*again unless she did actually know all along which is completely different obviously
This is how I feel too, nobody wants to feel your marriage has been a sham... if you love someone how could you do that to them?

[Liam-]

[/B]

but surely there should be equal empathy for both, it's not a competition? that said he is the one who has changed the status of their relationship so why shouldn't people feel empathy for her?

Aye, empathy is all well and good, but people saying she’s a victim, or she’s been manipulated and she’s the only one that deserves any form of sympathy, all of which I’ve seen in the past hour or so, not just on here, to me, just screams ‘straight rights!!’

[GoldHeart]

This is how I feel too, nobody wants to feel your marriage has been a sham... if you love someone how could you do that to them?

Exactly

[Nicky91]

Phil and his wife should stick together, if not for themselves, but for the children

like i mentioned about that Martien Meiland in earlier post, he and his wife also live together for the children, they just sleep separately

[Cherie]

It kinda makes a mockery out of Good Morning where they give out all this santimonous advice :laugh: it would be like Jeremy Kyle turning out to be a wife beater, or regularly robbing his granny

[Crimson Dynamo]

An ignorant comment like this can be extremely damaging, Arista. Well done.



Everyone is different, and feel comfortable to 'come out' at different points in their life. There is no time limit.

I think we should be commending his brave decision and not spinning a negative on it by criticising his timing.

maybe the brave thing would have been to not get married and live a fantasy life at the expense of others?

and on TV

[Crimson Dynamo]

Phil and his wife should stick together, if not for themselves, but for the children

like i mentioned about that Martien Meiland in earlier post, he and his wife also live together for the children, they just sleep separately

Does his wife not deserve to have a partner who fancies her and wants to have sex with her?

[Liam-]

All things considered though, he’s still a dick, but now that explains why he loves himself so much

[Liam-]

Badumtsh

[Crimson Dynamo]

:joker:

[Cherie]

From his statement

The presenter also praises his "incredible" wife, adding: "I love her so very much. She is the kindest soul I've ever met.

This is the last thing anyone woman would want to hear after her partner of 27 years has announced he fancies men, poor Steph

[GoldHeart]

It kinda makes a mockery out of Good Morning where they give out all this santimonous advice :laugh: it would be like Jeremy Kyle turning out to be a wife beater, or regularly robbing his granny

I'm glad Kyle was taken off air , he was a smug arrogant idiot. His show became even more of a freak show just laughing at people :bored: .

[Cherie]

I'm glad Kyle was taken off air , he was a smug arrogant idiot. His show became even more of a freak show just laughing at people :bored: .

Good Morning should follow it

[rusticgal]

maybe the brave thing would have been to not get married and live a fantasy life at the expense of others?

and on TV


I couldn't agree more.

[Elliot]

GNIbb-52lGU

[GoldHeart]

Good Morning should follow it

Wouldn't bother me lol , haven't watched it for a while . Saw the odd clip but that's it .

[Babayaro.]

maybe the brave thing would have been to not get married and live a fantasy life at the expense of others?

and on TV

it's really not as black & white as that, LT.


Yes, it is a terrible shame for his wife to have to come to terms with it. But, it's also a terrible shame for him that he had to wait so long before he was comfortable enough to live openly with his sexuality.

None of us really have the right to disect his 'coming out' as we are not him. But we should at least respect it.

[GoldHeart]

His story has dominated news now :rolleyes:

[Niamh.]

Aye, empathy is all well and good, but people saying she’s a victim, or she’s been manipulated and she’s the only one that deserves any form of sympathy, all of which I’ve seen in the past hour or so, not just on here, to me, just screams ‘straight rights!!’But it isn't about "straight rights " it's about the right to an honest relationship. It's nothing to do with her sexual preference.

[Cherie]

Wouldn't bother me lol , haven't watched it for a while . Saw the odd clip but that's it .

Neither do I, but I think its time it trundled off into the sunset

[Kizzy]

Sexuality is complicated, I was once attracted to women, I imagine the majority of gay people were at one time, attracted to the opposite sex, sexuality develops, yes, some people get into straight relationships out of shame to hide their secret, but a lot of people take time to realise who they are, it doesn’t mean he’s done it to purposely mislead her, it’s not black and white with these situations, yes she might have had a shock when she was told, but on the other hand she could have always suspected and was happy to live with it, they clearly had a sexual relationship.

I always find it gross when there’s a story about a gay person, most of the time it always end up coming back around to ‘aww, but what about straight people?’



I find this gross... There are 2 people in that relationship, nobody has said they don't feel for Phil!

It has nothing to do with sexualities at all, are we not supposed to take anyone else's feelings into consideration?

Suddenly they are not a unit they're lumped into the gay or straight camps?

[Beso]

Can someone explain the erection thing please.

[Kizzy]

It kinda makes a mockery out of Good Morning where they give out all this santimonous advice :laugh: it would be like Jeremy Kyle turning out to be a wife beater, or regularly robbing his granny

Yep remember when fern lost her weight and it turned out she'd had a gastric band?... :laugh:
She was out on her ear after that.

[Dogeatdog]

Just heard about this. Feel really sorry for his wife and children. Imagine being married for 27 years and your partner decides to come out as gay, I’d be a bit devastated (not that I have an issue with people coming out as gay but I just think in this situation it could’ve been done sooner and been a lot more honest in the relationship).

[GoldHeart]

But it isn't about "straight rights " it's about the right to an honest relationship. It's nothing to do with her sexual preference.

It's all very strange , I wonder what's going through their heads.

Imagine your marriage feeling like a lie after all these years .

[Rob!]

I don't know if I'm included in that comment but I'm simply looking at it from the wife's perspective :shrug: Or are straight people not supposed to have feelings?

*If she did know about it then that's a different story obviously

She did, according to his interview.

[Josy]

Every one I've spoken to today is shocked about this, I'm genuinely not :shrug:

It's good that hes finally felt able to be truthful with his wife/family and open about it all but surely he is bisexual?

I do feel heart sorry for his wife, I know it's been said shes being supportive etc but c'mon the woman must be devastated

[Kazanne]

I’m not attracted to women, but if there was someone I had a deep connection with that was a female, I wouldn’t rule out them being my life partner, it’s not all about being sexually attracted to someone imo

I agree, sometimes a really good friendship is enough.

[GoldHeart]

She did, according to his interview.

Still seems strange and random

[thesheriff443]

He had his hand up Gordon the gothers arse for years.

Maybe Gordon was going to do a kiss and tell.

[arista]

He had his hand up Gordon the gothers arse for years.

Maybe Gordon was going to do a kiss and tell.


Yes

[Kizzy]

Aye, empathy is all well and good, but people saying she’s a victim, or she’s been manipulated and she’s the only one that deserves any form of sympathy, all of which I’ve seen in the past hour or so, not just on here, to me, just screams ‘straight rights!!’

Straight rights?... The right to know if your husband is gay?

Yep then on this I'm all for straight rights... I'm out and proud about it!

[Rob!]

Still seems strange and random

Well, you stick with that viewpoint if it makes you feel better I guess?

[Livia]

At least we probably won't be treated to an ITV perfect picture of him in his beautiful home, with his beautiful wife, pretending they're planning the perfect Christmas.

I can't imagine how she feels.

[GoldHeart]

Well, you stick with that viewpoint if it makes you feel better I guess?

What are you talking about, why would it make me feel better??? :facepalm: .
I'm not the only one who has this view point.
Imagine you're married to someone who you love then they decide to come out to the public like this :shrug:. I didn't actually believe him . Felt a bit PR ish .

[Kazanne]

Good Morning should follow it

As should Judge Rinder,as much as I like him ,the show does what people said Jeremy Kyle did,it humiliates people, I for one liked JK as he did help a lot of people and sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind,but agree Cherie,whats good for one is good for all these types of shows.:wavey:

[Kazanne]

At least we probably won't be treated to an ITV perfect picture of him in his beautiful home, with his beautiful wife, pretending they're planning the perfect Christmas.

I can't imagine how she feels.

:joker::joker: that was the first thing I thought about Livia when the news first broke, first impressions don't always ring true:wavey:

[caprimint]

Sounds like his wife knew for a while and was fully supportive, he might be a horror to other people but by the sounds of it, he’s been a wonderful husband and father and provided them all with a wonderful life and Steph herself seems like a great, understanding woman

Yes @this

[GoldHeart]

As should Judge Rinder,as much as I like him ,the show does what people said Jeremy Kyle did,it humiliates people, I for one liked JK as he did help a lot of people and sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind,but agree Cherie,whats good for one is good for all these types of shows.:wavey:

I think Kyle stopped caring a long time , his show was nothing but trash & bellittling people. Yes some got help but at what cost for their mental health. Kyle tried to present it as some glorified counselling BS , he also got angry at criticism for his show.

At least Jerry Springer knew what his show was ,he was even tongue in cheek about the madness . He treated people alot better than Jeremy Kyle . And he never pretended it was normal.

Kyle just mocks them and shouts & interrupts them , he thinks he's the most intelligent one
The ego on him is ridiculous. And the audience encourage him :bored: .

[Rob!]

What are you talking about, why would it make me feel better??? :facepalm: .
I'm not the only one who has this view point.
Imagine you're married to someone who you love then they decide to come out to the public like this :shrug:. I didn't actually believe him . Felt a bit PR ish .

Well then if that cynical way of thinking gets you through life, then good for you. Or you could try actually watching the interview and learning the actual facts but you do you :shrug:

[bots]

i'm not shocked at all, i always thought he was gay

[Kazanne]

Looks like she probably knew a while back
https://i.imgur.com/lke0E79.jpg

[GoldHeart]

i'm not shocked at all, i always thought he was gay

Why ?? , Well I never thought he was .

[The Slim Reaper]

Me standing outside Niamh's house to call for Gav

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article11172569.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Cold-Feet.jpg

[caprimint]

I bet Jersey will be like “what’s a Phillip Schofield???”

[michael21]

No reports of him doing anything to holly

[Jessica.]

I don't think this is actually a big deal? This story may encourage other people who hear about it to come out and make homophobic fans a bit salty but that's it really. I don't think it needs to be everywhere on the news. His wife is obviously okay if she's been supporting him, I don't think we need to speculate about what she's thinking. This happens.

[GoldHeart]

I don't think this is actually a big deal? This story may encourage other people who hear about it to come out and make homophobic fans a bit salty but that's it really. I don't think it needs to be everywhere on the news. His wife is obviously okay if she's been supporting him, I don't think we need to speculate about what she's thinking. This happens.

But it has dominated the news ,and he must of known it would as he's a big public figure on TV all the time.

[Josy]

I don't think this is actually a big deal? This story may encourage other people who hear about it to come out and make homophobic fans a bit salty but that's it really. I don't think it needs to be everywhere on the news. His wife is obviously okay if she's been supporting him, I don't think we need to speculate about what she's thinking. This happens.

You just said yourself this story is all over the place, dominating the news, people will speculate regardless of whether you think they don't need to, it's what people do.

[GoldHeart]

Well then if that cynical way of thinking gets you through life, then good for you. Or you could try actually watching the interview and learning the actual facts but you do you :shrug:

I've already seen an image and read what he said , doesn't make it any less strange :shrug:.

[michael21]

I don't think this is actually a big deal? This story may encourage other people who hear about it to come out and make homophobic fans a bit salty but that's it really. I don't think it needs to be everywhere on the news. His wife is obviously okay if she's been supporting him, I don't think we need to speculate about what she's thinking. This happens.

Don't see a problem with speculating :shrug:

[caprimint]

Also I’m not gay and like yes it’s a shame for his wife but like why is this being made more about her than him? He took a massively brave decision first of all to admit it to himself, then to actually tell her and even to the public. The thing is that we don’t know exactly when all of this happened, but from what we do know I would say that it sounds like his wife is an amazing person and she’s very understanding about it all. It’s so so so important to realise that Phillip most likely didn’t ever try to hurt her, lead her on or do something wrong... he just acted on his feelings. It’s sad that more people are caught up in her feelings than his

[GoldHeart]

But obviously people are going to think about his family, this isn't the same as a single man with no baggage suddenly coming out :facepalm: .

[Rob!]

I've already seen an image and read what he said , doesn't make it any less strange :shrug:.

Oh you’ve seen an image. My mistake, I thought you didn’t have all the facts available to you at your disposal, how could I be so ****ing stupid?

[Josy]

Oh you’ve seen an image. My mistake, I thought you didn’t have all the facts available to you at your disposal, how could I be so ****ing stupid?The statement that phil made was being posted online as an image.

Theres really no need at all to be so rude when putting your opinion across.

[smudgie]

Good luck to him and his family going forward.
A lot of love in that family, hopefully they can all go on to live happy lives.
There is much more to marriage than sex, love and friendship must obviously play a big part in their relationship.

[Liam-]

Also I’m not gay and like yes it’s a shame for his wife but like why is this being made more about her than him? He took a massively brave decision first of all to admit it to himself, then to actually tell her and even to the public. The thing is that we don’t know exactly when all of this happened, but from what we do know I would say that it sounds like his wife is an amazing person and she’s very understanding about it all. It’s so so so important to realise that Phillip most likely didn’t ever try to hurt her, lead her on or do something wrong... he just acted on his feelings. It’s sad that more people are caught up in her feelings than his

:clap2:

[Denver]

Doesnt make up for him being a nasty piece of ****

[Cherie]

Yep remember when fern lost her weight and it turned out she'd had a gastric band?... :laugh:
She was out on her ear after that.

Phil Vickery has just parted with Fern, maybe thats the story :hehe:

Or Ruth caught him with Eamonn hence the fumes

[AnnieK]

Phil Vickery has just parted with Fern, maybe thats the story :hehe:

Or Ruth caught him with Eamonn hence the fumes

That was a theory that someone said in my office too about Phil Vickery :laugh:

[Cherie]

That was a theory that someone said in my office too about Phil Vickery :laugh:

:joker: omg imagine

[Ammi]

GNIbb-52lGU

...this is really quite emotional, there is obviously so much that they’re all going through as a family atm....No one knows what the relationship and family dynamics are...but it does feel from his words like their family and extended families is filled with love and respect and support for each other...

[GoldHeart]

Doesnt make up for him being a nasty piece of ****

Him & Holly act soo silly

[Crimson Dynamo]

That was a theory that someone said in my office too about Phil Vickery :laugh:

I wondered about this when they did that piece together on the Battered Sausage with fresh Isle of Man cream :think:

[Beso]

Good luck to him and his family going forward.
A lot of love in that family, hopefully they can all go on to live happy lives.
There is much more to marriage than sex, love and friendship must obviously play a big part in their relationship.

And trust..don't forget trust.

[Ammi]

Also I’m not gay and like yes it’s a shame for his wife but like why is this being made more about her than him? He took a massively brave decision first of all to admit it to himself, then to actually tell her and even to the public. The thing is that we don’t know exactly when all of this happened, but from what we do know I would say that it sounds like his wife is an amazing person and she’s very understanding about it all. It’s so so so important to realise that Phillip most likely didn’t ever try to hurt her, lead her on or do something wrong... he just acted on his feelings. It’s sad that more people are caught up in her feelings than his

...it sounded as though she’s known for a few years and helped to support him this decision he’s made right now to make his sexuality public...the dynamics of their relationship over their marriage are something that are obviously personal to them...but they do seem to have enormous love for each other and their daughters...and also including both of their extended families too...

[bots]

let's be honest, the reality of the situation for the family will play out over the next 6-12 months. Once things are out in the open, the dynamic is changed entirely and this is basically day 1.

[Cherie]

...this is really quite emotional, there is obviously so much that they’re all going through as a family atm....No one knows what the relationship and family dynamics are...but it does feel from his words like their family and extended families is filled with love and respect and support for each other...

He also lied about his perfect marriage so i think he is used to painting perfect pictures of his life

[Crimson Dynamo]

he got married the same year as i did

:omgno:

[Ammi]

...I’m not sure that he specifically and intentionally ‘painted a perfect life’ as such or if that’s more the assumption...or that the assumption would incorporate every aspect of their relationship...I would say that they appear to have great love in their partnership and in their family and that to me would indicate a truthful ‘painting’...

[Cherie]

...I’m not sure that he specifically and intentionally ‘painted a perfect life’ as such or if that’s more the assumption...or that the assumption would incorporate every aspect of their relationship...I would say that they appear to have great love in their partnership and in their family and that to me would indicate a truthful ‘painting’...

You know as much about them as anyone else Ammi

[GoldHeart]

You know as much about them as anyone else Ammi

He always made us think he was in a happy marriage, I remember when he did the text santa 24 hour challenge and wasn't his wife supporting him ?.

[Josy]

...I’m not sure that he specifically and intentionally ‘painted a perfect life’ as such or if that’s more the assumption...or that the assumption would incorporate every aspect of their relationship...I would say that they appear to have great love in their partnership and in their family and that to me would indicate a truthful ‘painting’...Tbf he did always put it across that he was in a perfect happy marriage

[Crimson Dynamo]

they publically celebrated their 25 wedding anniv - would that not have been time enough to come clean?

[Ammi]

...of course...I think the assumption has been that he and his wife have a deep and loving relationship and that they’re a very close family...and his interview would indicate that is indeed what they all feel...

[Ammi]

Tbf he did always put it across that he was in a perfect happy marriage

...that’s exactly how he may have felt though...his sexuality may be something that he’s only realised later and life...and he may have shared everything he’s been feeling with his wife for the most part of it...that would still to me Mean a good marriage...(...nothing is ‘perfect’..)...

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think there is a certain element of ambition in all of this, perhaps more so than "coming to terms"

yes its bad that coming out may have damaged his career but pretending that its not naked greed/ambition is not ideal?

[GoldHeart]

Also he's the one that's made it dominate news with the theatrics . Yet others think we're making it into a big deal :rolleyes: .

I've seen YouTube comments saying it's 2020 why doesn't he just get on with it without the tears .

And others said it would of been braver if he came out years ago .

[GoldHeart]

Tbf he did always put it across that he was in a perfect happy marriage

Exactly that's why some of us are confused :facepalm:

[Cherie]

Also he's the one that's made it dominate news with the theatrics . Yet others think we're making it into a big deal :rolleyes: .

I've seen YouTube comments saying it's 2020 why doesn't he just get on with it without the tears .

And others said it would of been braver if he came out years ago .

Holly was interviewing him like his family had just been murdered

[Rob!]

Exactly that's why some of us are confused :facepalm:

Nobody else is as confused as you though? Like you seem to be completely incapable of understanding it whatsoever.
He’s gay, he’s come out, he’s discussed it with his family. Nothing that complicated really.

[Morgan.]

Why are people so bothered about this. Trying to discredit him or scrutinise his decision isn’t going to change it or take it back, just let him get on with his business.

[GoldHeart]

Holly was interviewing him like his family had just been murdered

FFS :facepalm: why the theatrics

[Crimson Dynamo]

Why are people so bothered about this. Trying to discredit him or scrutinise his decision isn’t going to change it or take it back, just let him get on with his business.

its a discussion forum, we are discussing it, every news media is doing the same. No one is that bothered but to pretend this isnt news would be baffling

[Liam-]

FFS :facepalm: why the theatrics

Because believe it or not, coming out is still a terrifying thing to do for people

[Ammi]

...(...it felt as though Holly was close to tears a few times, her voice was so emotional...she seemed just so full of thoughts for him and how he would have been feeling...)...Holly seems an amazing friend...:love:..

[GoldHeart]

Well that's a bit of heat off Harry & Meghan for now at least :hee:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Because believe it or not, coming out is still a terrifying thing to do for people

and yet he was so terrified he did it on live TV?

:conf:

[Rob!]

Holly was interviewing him like his family had just been murdered

You genuinely don’t know what coming out can actually do to people’s mental health do you?

Thank god we have TIBB to educate us on the matter.

[GoldHeart]

...(...it felt as though Holly was close to tears a few times, her voice was so emotional...she seemed just so full of thoughts for him and how he would have been feeling...)...Holly seems an amazing friend...:love:..

Holly cries when it rains outside or when there's no more cupcakes for her to scoff :notimpressed: .

[Alf]

Why are people so bothered about this. Trying to discredit him or scrutinise his decision isn’t going to change it or take it back, just let him get on with his business.What happens when he's highlighting his business on National television to all the viewers watching? It's then no longer just his business, he's now making everybody else's business.

[Rob!]

What happens when he's highlighting his business on National television to all the viewers watching? It's then no longer just his business, he's now making everybody else's business.

Not really.

[Liam-]

and yet he was so terrified he did it on live TV?

:conf:

He did it somewhere comfortable he’s called home for near 20 years, with his best friend, it makes perfect sense

[GoldHeart]

Not really.

Okay then people should leave Harry & Meghan alone then . And stop whining about them :hee:

When you're in the public eye and announce something out the blue like this , it becomes front page & everyone talks about it. Which Philip knew .

[Rob!]

Okay then people should leave Harry & Meghan alone then . And stop whining about them :hee:

When you're in the public eye and announce something out the blue like this , it becomes front page & everyone talks about it. Which Philip knew .

Yes, you’re right. The private life of a breakfast tv presenter is exactly the same as the royal family. Although yes, people really should start whinging about Harry and his wife too.

[Cherie]

You genuinely don’t know what coming out can actually do to people’s mental health do you?

Thank god we have TIBB to educate us on the matter.

Its not the 1940s. His family and Stephs family were instantly accepting according to himself, the rest of the world doesn’t matter

[Alf]

Yes, you’re right. The private life of a breakfast tv presenter is exactly the same as the royal family. Although yes, people really should start whinging about Harry and his wife too.If it was his private life, my advice to him would be, to keep it private. It makes sense.

[Cherie]

I just hope it’s not all regurgitated again on DOI :hmph: we know now, lets move it along

[Rob!]

Its not the 1940s. His family and Stephs family were instantly accepting according to himself, the rest of the world doesn’t matter

But they are both victims of homophobia, hence why it has taken so long for him to be able to do this. This thread alone shows that ignorance does still exist as much as it did decades ago. It’s really sad tbh.

[GoldHeart]

Yes, you’re right. The private life of a breakfast tv presenter is exactly the same as the royal family. Although yes, people really should start whinging about Harry and his wife too.

Eh???! :conf: , I didn't say it was right how Harry & Meghan got pestered especially the hate Meghan got .

But Philip is also in the limelight and he came out on TV and on social media. He knew it would dominate news :idc:

[Alf]

But they are both victims of homophobia, hence why it has taken so long for him to be able to do this. This thread alone shows that ignorance does still exist as much as it did decades ago. It’s really sad tbh.Ignorance will always exist. Because everyone of us is ignorant to something at some point.

[Rob!]

Eh???! :conf: , I didn't say it was right how Harry & Meghan got pestered especially the hate Meghan got .

But Philip is also in the limelight and he came out on TV and on social media. He knew it would dominate news :idc:

Did you happen to watch the rest of the programme? Where people were phoning in and saying how much it had helped them? There was a woman in her 60s who phone in and said she’d finally had the confidence to come out to people as she’d watched Phil do it on national television.

****ing right he should do it and dominate the news - why should it be something that’s hidden and done in private as if it’s something to be ashamed of? The more people with that attitude, the more homophobia exists and that is never going to change if it isn’t addressed.

[GoldHeart]

People will always say they feel it's helped them , but not everyone's situation will be the same as Philip's and his is still strange.

[Rob!]

People will always say they feel it's helped them , but not everyone's situation will be the same as Philip's and his is still strange.

Strange why? But he hasn’t conformed to your view on sexuality?

[user104658]

Reading between the lines, I reckon his wife has known (or its something him and his wife have been discussing / exploring) for years.

[Marsh.]

Reading between the lines, I reckon his wife has known (or its something him and his wife have been discussing / exploring) for years.

Yeah this is something that he and his family clearly have gradually come to terms with privately for a while.

It actually explains all the behind the scenes drama stories being overblown to stop it getting out before he was ready possibly.

[Marsh.]

DS are in a crisis. They have threads upon threads about how he is a letch and helps Holly up the ladder in her career because he is sexually obsessed with her.

Gonna have to rethink that now. :hehe:

[Ammi]

Reading between the lines, I reckon his wife has known (or its something him and his wife have been discussing / exploring) for years.

...yeah, those were my thoughts from watching the interview as well...that it’s something that his wife has been aware of for a few years and that they’ve been working a path together with it, which has resulted in him deciding to go public right now...with her support ....

[BBUK-Fan]

Why did SkyNews talk with Will Young about it? He’s got nothing to do with it apart from be a gay man.

[Marsh.]

Why did SkyNews talk with Will Young about it? He’s got nothing to do with it apart from be a gay man.

Because he too came out publically I imagine.

[GoldHeart]

Because he too came out publically I imagine.

But it was obvious from day 1 that Will young was gay & he didn't have a marriage of 27 years

[Beso]

He's just another tv presenter making the show all about him, hope he retires now to get on with his mid life crisis in private.

[Marsh.]

But it was obvious from day 1 that Will young was gay & he didn't have a marriage of 27 years

You thinking you knew he was gay before he came out doesn't mean anything. :shrug:

I never said he was married. I said he knows what it's like to come out as a famous person. That's all.

[Liam-]

But it was obvious from day 1 that Will young was gay & he didn't have a marriage of 27 years

Why was it obvious from day one? Cause he spoke funny? Cause he’s not butch? That’s very stereotypical of you

[Crimson Dynamo]

But they are both victims of homophobia, hence why it has taken so long for him to be able to do this. This thread alone shows that ignorance does still exist as much as it did decades ago. It’s really sad tbh.

all you have done in this thread is call people names and been incredibly intolerant

yet mystifyingly its this you are accusing everyone else of


We get you are gay Rob but we are also discussing marriage and children - you have no experience of either but no one is having a go at you about this

dial down the anger

[Jigs]

Why are people whinging about this making the news? I get that you don't like Schofield (I am also not a fan) but of course this is going to make the news. He's one of the most recognisable faces on TV and he's married. Whether he announced it during a live TV spectacle or quietly/privately came out and was later seen with male partners, it was obviously going to make the news.

[Jigs]

Also I’m not gay and like yes it’s a shame for his wife but like why is this being made more about her than him? He took a massively brave decision first of all to admit it to himself, then to actually tell her and even to the public. The thing is that we don’t know exactly when all of this happened, but from what we do know I would say that it sounds like his wife is an amazing person and she’s very understanding about it all. It’s so so so important to realise that Phillip most likely didn’t ever try to hurt her, lead her on or do something wrong... he just acted on his feelings. It’s sad that more people are caught up in her feelings than his

ITA with this. It sucks for the wife but we've all been in situations where we've been betrayed by something, devastated by some bad news, etc... We've also all been in situations where WE are the betrayer, or where WE are the one delivering hurtful news to someone. I think we can all agree the latter feels far worse. When you are responsible for causing someone else hurt it burdens you with so much more guilt and pain than it does if you are the person helplessly receiving this bad news.

The point I'm trying to make is, no one is disputing it's tough on the wife BUT personally I think it's harder for Phil to have to live with the fact he is the reason for his wife's hurt.

[GoldHeart]

Why was it obvious from day one? Cause he spoke funny? Cause he’s not butch? That’s very stereotypical of you

I'm not Perez Hilton who forced Joe McElderry
to come out by calling him "gay face" , so simmer down :rolleyes:.

I just said from day 1 I always had a feeling Will Young was gay ,so I wasn't surprised when he came out .

Just like some people reckon they knew Schofield was , you going to say they made assumptions early?.

Bet loads of people think Lawrence Llwenen Bowen is gay but he's happily married to his wife . But people probably stereotype him :rolleyes: .

[Cal.]

all you have done in this thread is call people names and been incredibly intolerant

yet mystifyingly its this you are accusing everyone else of


We get you are gay Rob but we are also discussing marriage and children - you have no experience of either but no one is having a go at you about this

dial down the anger

We get you’ve been married and had kids luv but you have no experience of being gay!

[Marsh.]

Oh no the old "Well I have children so...." :joker:

[Rob!]

all you have done in this thread is call people names and been incredibly intolerant

yet mystifyingly its this you are accusing everyone else of


We get you are gay Rob but we are also discussing marriage and children - you have no experience of either but no one is having a go at you about this

dial down the anger

Wow.

So...I haven’t called anybody any names other than highlight ignorance.

But yes LT, out of the two of us, I’M the intolerant one. Sure.

[Cherie]

But they are both victims of homophobia, hence why it has taken so long for him to be able to do this. This thread alone shows that ignorance does still exist as much as it did decades ago. It’s really sad tbh.

sorry who are? I don't watch GM and I couldn't get past the first minute of the Phil and Holly interview


I don't think people are showing any ignorance on this thread, what is loud and clear is that Phil's feelings are far more important than his wife's, that's the gist I am getting here. No one is suggesting he told her yesterday but he obviously didn't tell her on their wedding day

[user104658]

To be fair I think people are conflating a nearly 30 year partnership with a Love Island fling... I'm sure he deeply loves his wife and she loves him too, that won't be affected by whether he's attracted to men or women? We have no idea what their situation is, it may well be that it was her who first suspected after years of issues while he was in denial still and brought up the conversation? There's a huge assumption that he's suddenly rocked up home after a morning on telly and said "Sorry love I prefer dick, bye." leaving her reeling. It doesn't seem like that's the situation at all.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It’s so comforting to know there are so many straight experts on what it’s like to come out on here.

Well, you stick with that viewpoint if it makes you feel better I guess?

Well then if that cynical way of thinking gets you through life, then good for you. Or you could try actually watching the interview and learning the actual facts but you do you :shrug:

Oh you’ve seen an image. My mistake, I thought you didn’t have all the facts available to you at your disposal, how could I be so ****ing stupid?

Nobody else is as confused as you though? Like you seem to be completely incapable of understanding it whatsoever.
He’s gay, he’s come out, he’s discussed it with his family. Nothing that complicated really.

You genuinely don’t know what coming out can actually do to people’s mental health do you?

Thank god we have TIBB to educate us on the matter.

But they are both victims of homophobia, hence why it has taken so long for him to be able to do this. This thread alone shows that ignorance does still exist as much as it did decades ago. It’s really sad tbh.

Did you happen to watch the rest of the programme? Where people were phoning in and saying how much it had helped them? There was a woman in her 60s who phone in and said she’d finally had the confidence to come out to people as she’d watched Phil do it on national television.

****ing right he should do it and dominate the news - why should it be something that’s hidden and done in private as if it’s something to be ashamed of? The more people with that attitude, the more homophobia exists and that is never going to change if it isn’t addressed.

Wow.

So...I haven’t called anybody any names other than highlight ignorance.

But yes LT, out of the two of us, I’M the intolerant one. Sure.


Just having a go at posters, no comment about the thread topic. Sniping comments.

:shrug:

[thesheriff443]

Straight or gay he is still a self righteous dick.

[Rob!]

Just having a go at posters, no comment about the thread topic. Sniping comments.

:shrug:

It’s called a discussion. Fail to see where I called anyone any names though which is what you claimed?

[Marsh.]

To be fair I think people are conflating a nearly 30 year partnership with a Love Island fling... I'm sure he deeply loves his wife and she loves him too, that won't be affected by whether he's attracted to men or women? We have no idea what their situation is, it may well be that it was her who first suspected after years of issues while he was in denial still and brought up the conversation? There's a huge assumption that he's suddenly rocked up home after a morning on telly and said "Sorry love I prefer dick, bye." leaving her reeling. It doesn't seem like that's the situation at all.

I agree with this. Him being gay doesn't mean he's duped a woman for 30 years into marrying him whilst knowing full well he's gay. Nor does it mean he didn't/doesn't love her or their relationship wasn't genuine. :shrug:

[Beso]

It’s called a discussion. Fail to see where I called anyone any names though which is what you claimed?

You've been very rude rob, even Josy had to tell you off for your rudeness.

[Josy]

It’s called a discussion. Fail to see where I called anyone any names though which is what you claimed?Tbf the comments you've made since you entered the thread have came across as overly angry and hostile

[Josy]

Can we get back to the initial topic now please.

[thesheriff443]

So how long before the supportive wife gets divorce papers so Phil can live his new life.

These sudden announcements usually come on the back of a scandal story.

[montblanc]

oh wow

[Rob!]

Tbf the comments you've made since you entered the thread have came across as overly angry and hostile

Yeah, I’ve been told because I’m gay and have no “understanding” of marriage and kids that my opinion on the matter isn’t valid but I’m the rude one. That works.

[GoldHeart]

That's what I'm wondering, what does the wife do now that he's publicly OUT ?!! :conf: .

Kids are grown up and everything

[Marsh.]

That's what I'm wondering, what does the wife do now that he's publicly OUT ?!! :conf: .

Kids are grown up and everything

What do you mean?

[Josy]

Yeah, I’ve been told because I’m gay and have no “understanding” of marriage and kids that my opinion on the matter isn’t valid but I’m the rude one. That works.You were first to point out to someone that they weren't gay/had no experience of coming out as if that gave them no right to an opinion on the matter

[LukeB]

You were first to point out to someone that they weren't gay/had no experience of coming out as if that gave them no right to an opinion on the matter

Not really the same though is it?

[GoldHeart]

What do you mean?

Will they split up now ? :shrug:

[Josy]

Not really the same though is it?Yes it is actually the same, the fact is anyone is entitled to an opinion on the topic because Phil made it public by doing a statement on tv

[montblanc]

definitely not the same nnn

[Rob!]

It’s in no universe the same thing :facepalm:

[GoldHeart]

His face & the news is everywhere but everyone shush let's pretend we haven't seen it :joker: :facepalm:

[Marsh.]

Will they split up now ? :shrug:

I imagine they're probably divorcing which is why he's come out. Assuming, he's been out privately for a while now.

[Josy]

It’s in no universe the same thing :facepalm:So let's get this straight..

If you arent gay you cant have an opinion on someone coming out?

If you arent married or have kids you can still have a say on how this may affect someone's marriage/kids?

Just read how ridiculous that sounds.

End of the day it's a story that's dominating the news, anyone is entitled to an opinion and this is a discussion forum, stop trying to shut down discussion

[Marsh.]

So let's get this straight..

:eek:

[Josy]

:eek:Bad choice of phrase there :joker:

[GoldHeart]

I imagine they're probably divorcing which is why he's come out. Assuming, he's been out privately for a while now.

Probably so , but I think people are wondering if something else happened .

[Niamh.]

Reading between the lines, I reckon his wife has known (or its something him and his wife have been discussing / exploring) for years.I hope so. My only point was it would be pretty devastating for her if it came as a massive shock, no idea why it's been made out that having this opinion makes me anti gay or fighting for straight rights

[Jigs]

So let's get this straight..

If you arent gay you cant have an opinion on someone coming out?

If you arent married or have kids you can still have a say on how this may affect someone's marriage/kids?

Just read how ridiculous that sounds.

End of the day it's a story that's dominating the news, anyone is entitled to an opinion and this is a discussion forum, stop trying to shut down discussion

I think it's more to do with if you aren't gay you can't VILLAINIZE someone for the choices they make/have made which relate to their coming out. Sentiments relating to his wife "living a lie" as a result of the choices Phil made or the parts of his life/himself that he concealed from her just villainize him as someone who set out to do all this as some sort of premeditated, deliberate plot. Obviously this is not the case.

To feel bad for his wife is totally understandable but to disagree with what he's done or "how long he left it" is really for no-one to say because coming out is incredibly hard and I think those of us who came out earlier in life are EXTREMELY lucky because I can imagine the burden gets worse and worse as you get older and let more and more of your life pass by without properly coming to terms with it.

[thesheriff443]

I hope so. My only point was it would be pretty devastating for her if it came as a massive shock, no idea why it's been made out that having this opinion makes me anti gay or fighting for straight rights

This happens all the time on any subject, like what would a man know about something involving a woman or vice versa.

It’s an attempt to undermine someone’s opinion.

[Marsh.]

I think it's more to do with if you aren't gay you can't VILLAINIZE someone for the choices they make/have made which relate to their coming out. Sentiments relating to his wife "living a lie" as a result of the choices Phil made or the parts of his life/himself that he concealed from her just villainize him as someone who set out to do all this as some sort of premeditated, deliberate plot. Obviously this is not the case.

To feel bad for his wife is totally understandable but to disagree with what he's done or "how long he left it" is really for no-one to say because coming out is incredibly hard and I think those of us who came out earlier in life are EXTREMELY lucky because I can imagine the burden gets worse and worse as you get older and let more and more of your life pass by without properly coming to terms with it.

What a good post