Is it time to axe love island

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Yes!

Get rid and return to 1 CBB every january (with civi BB returning in about 5 years)

[Morgan.]

For what reason?

[Withano]

For what reason?

It’s ****e

[Smithy]

Caroline will not die in vain

[Smithy]

For what reason?

Jeremy Kyle got axed when one person associated with it killed themselves, 3 people now have from Love Island...

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

For what reason?

It’s ****e

Caroline will not die in vain

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[Morgan.]

Jeremy Kyle got axed when one person associated with it killed themselves, 3 people now have from Love Island...

But none of their deaths have been related to the show in any way. The suicide of the person from Jeremy Kyle was down to the show, and it’s axing was as a result of the shows treatment to the contestants. The Love Island suicides have been unrelated to the show, and the aftercare and treatment has improved massively since their criticism. There’s no way in which the show could be axed as a result of these deaths, they’re separate entities.

[Liam-]

Jeremy Kyle got axed when one person associated with it killed themselves, 3 people now have from Love Island...

Tea!

[Smithy]

But none of their deaths have been related to the show in any way. The suicide of the person from Jeremy Kyle was down to the show, and it’s axing was as a result of the shows treatment to the contestants. The Love Island suicides have been unrelated to the show, and the aftercare and treatment has improved massively since their criticism. There’s no way in which the show could be axed as a result of these deaths, they’re separate entities.

Are you saying if the two contestants that killed themselves didn’t go on Love Island they’d have still killed themselves?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Its a toxic exploitation of young people and a celebration of body deformity and poor education

a disgusting programme

[LukeB]

But none of their deaths have been related to the show in any way. The suicide of the person from Jeremy Kyle was down to the show, and it’s axing was as a result of the shows treatment to the contestants. The Love Island suicides have been unrelated to the show, and the aftercare and treatment has improved massively since their criticism. There’s no way in which the show could be axed as a result of these deaths, they’re separate entities.

Pretty much.

Jeremy Kyle used people with mental illness for the show and they were all humiliated and laughed tbh and Li wasn't anything like that. a huge difference.

[Morgan.]

Are you saying if the two contestants that killed themselves didn’t go on Love Island they’d have still killed themselves?

If lots of people did things differently they might not have killed themselves. Sophie’s death iirc was down to her mental health and her relationship none of which came from Love Island so that can’t be linked in anyway.

Mike’s, yes, was assumed to be as a result of media attention and backlash but Love Island wasn’t the only show he did? He got an awful amount of hate, even more so, from Celebs Go Dating so should we axe that too? Oh and he did an unaired season of Ex on the Beach so let’s get rid of that for good measure ...

[Joe.]

I don't think end, but go on a hiatus and to return with a massive overhaul and clear changes.

[Jordan.]

Yes vapid bs that's way more problematic than it's worth.

[Smithy]

If lots of people did things differently they might not have killed themselves. Sophie’s death iirc was down to her mental health and her relationship none of which came from Love Island so that can’t be linked in anyway.

Mike’s, yes, was assumed to be as a result of media attention and backlash but Love Island wasn’t the only show he did? He got an awful amount of hate, even more so, from Celebs Go Dating so should we axe that too? Oh and he did an unaired season of Ex on the Beach so let’s get rid of that for good measure ...

All terrible shows, I agree axe them all

[Tony Montana]

If lots of people did things differently they might not have killed themselves. Sophie’s death iirc was down to her mental health and her relationship none of which came from Love Island so that can’t be linked in anyway.

Mike’s, yes, was assumed to be as a result of media attention and backlash but Love Island wasn’t the only show he did? He got an awful amount of hate, even more so, from Celebs Go Dating so should we axe that too? Oh and he did an unaired season of Ex on the Beach so let’s get rid of that for good measure ...

Spot on!

Mike received a lot more hate when he was on CGD than LI. He behaved worse on that show than he even did on LI.

[Zizu]

I love the interactions , the body language, sussing out the game players ... Mike , Eva , Demi , Natalia etc

Plus there’s always a couple of gorgeous women ..


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[Braden]

But none of their deaths have been related to the show in any way. The suicide of the person from Jeremy Kyle was down to the show, and it’s axing was as a result of the shows treatment to the contestants. The Love Island suicides have been unrelated to the show, and the aftercare and treatment has improved massively since their criticism. There’s no way in which the show could be axed as a result of these deaths, they’re separate entities.

How many people linked to this show have to die for it to become an issue, though?

[Kazanne]

But none of their deaths have been related to the show in any way. The suicide of the person from Jeremy Kyle was down to the show, and it’s axing was as a result of the shows treatment to the contestants. The Love Island suicides have been unrelated to the show, and the aftercare and treatment has improved massively since their criticism. There’s no way in which the show could be axed as a result of these deaths, they’re separate entities.

The person who killed themselves from the JK show already had mental problems ,his sister said it was not the fault of the show at all,it was pulled due to the backlash of people who didn't like it, so I think maybe LI also needs to be looked at in the same light, it's cant just be coincidence 3 people have killed themselves connected to that show.

[Crimson Dynamo]

axe strictly too


whilst we are axing rubbish

[Jessica.]

I think they shouldn't do it so often, every couple of years would be better.

[Daniel-X]

I’m a bit on the fence about this.

I enjoy it as a show and don’t think it can be fully blamed for the deaths of Sophie, Mike and Caroline. Especially Caroline’s, considering that hers is most likely linked to her ongoing court case.

However, I can see how problematic it’s now becoming and a lot of ex-islanders themselves like Malin and Zara seem to be under the impression that it needs to be axed.

Idk, if it saves someone’s life then yes. But I don’t think we can just blame LI (esp in Caroline’s case)

[Dogeatdog]

I’m a bit on the fence about this.

I enjoy it as a show and don’t think it can be fully blamed for the deaths of Sophie, Mike and Caroline. Especially Caroline’s, considering that hers is most likely linked to her ongoing court case.

However, I can see how problematic it’s now becoming and a lot of ex-islanders themselves like Malin and Zara seem to be under the impression that it needs to be axed.

Idk, if it saves someone’s life then yes. But I don’t think we can just blame LI (esp in Caroline’s case)

I’m pretty much the same as this tbh.

I don’t think the show is entirely to blame, I think social media and the tabloids are partly to blame as well.

[Smithy]

Love Island honestly has more negative impacts on society than positive, suicides aside, it’s vapid and I genuinely think it’s deteimental to young people’s mental health.

I was chatting with my manager a while ago and she was talking about how her 16 year old wants a boob job and lip fillers to look better, because of what she’s seen on love island

[Elliot]

It’s entertaining at its best, but it’s hard to turn a blind eye to its dark side and impact

[LukeB]

I’m pretty much the same as this tbh.

I don’t think the show is entirely to blame, I think social media and the tabloids are partly to blame as well.

You see no one hardly blames social media and the tabloids just the show because they don't like it. Social and the tabloids have been toxic and trash for many years way before Li got the reboot. As Morgan said Sophie was down to something that didn't come from the show and Mike had more blacklash and bad press from other shows and obviously Caroline's had absolutely nothing to do with the show.

[Jessica.]

Love Island honestly has more negative impacts on society than positive, suicides aside, it’s vapid and I genuinely think it’s deteimental to young people’s mental health.

I was chatting with my manager a while ago and she was talking about how her 16 year old wants a boob job and lip fillers to look better, because of what she’s seen on love island

That is horrendous

[Braden]

You see no one hardly blames social media and the tabloids just the show because they don't like it. Social and the tabloids have been toxic and trash for many years way before Li got the reboot. As Morgan said Sophie was down to something that didn't come from the show and Mike had more blacklash and bad press from other shows and obviously Caroline's had absolutely nothing to do with the show.

That’s the thing, social media and tabloids have always been laced with toxicity—they’re complicit—but no other tv show has had the number of suicides linked to it as Love Island has in such a tight timeframe.

[Morgan.]

How many people linked to this show have to die for it to become an issue, though?

It becomes an issue when people are dying as a direct result of the show. As I said, lots of people kill themselves over stress, depression etc. Should we abolish schools because some students can’t cope with the pressure to succeed?

[Dogeatdog]

You see no one hardly blames social media and the tabloids just the show because they don't like it. Social and the tabloids have been toxic and trash for many years way before Li got the reboot. As Morgan said Sophie was down to something that didn't come from the show and Mike had more blacklash and bad press from other shows and obviously Caroline's had absolutely nothing to do with the show.

And this is something that personally for me needs changing but sadly it never will. I mean look at how awful the tabloids were during BB’s hey day, imagine if social media was around then? I couldn’t imagine how this also impacts someone’s mental health.

[LukeB]

That’s the thing, social media and tabloids have always been laced with toxicity—they’re complicit—but no other tv show has had the number of suicides linked to it as Love Island has in such a tight timeframe.

They might be linked to it but they are linked to other stuff as well:shrug:

[Braden]

It becomes an issue when people are dying as a direct result of the show. As I said, lots of people kill themselves over stress, depression etc. Should we abolish schools because some students can’t cope with the pressure to succeed?

If three people from the same class took their own lives, I would say that there would need to be a thorough investigation as to why that is happening.

They might be linked to it but they are linked to other stuff as well:shrug:

Yeah, that’s true, but I am wondering if it’s the show that is ultimately the beginning of a domino effect.

[Jake.]

3 deaths in 5 years isn’t a good look for any show, regardless of the specifics of each individual suicide. I don’t personally see how it can continue tbh.

[Morgan.]

If three people from the same class took their own lives, I would say that there would need to be a thorough investigation as to why that is happening.

But a class has 30 people, Love Island has had over 150. I’m sorry I’m just really not seeing the correlation here.

[Shaun]

It's hard to take a moral highground against it when we are... literally on a forum about Big Brother :shrug: a show that also didn't give a damn about the mental health of some of its participants.

But there's a more hollow, artificial element to Love Island than there was around Big Brother, I think, and unless you build a career off of LI and become liked by its viewers, it must be a pretty dismal existence after it ends.

[Marsh.]

Get it OFF our screens.

[Braden]

But a class has 30 people, Love Island has had over 150. I’m sorry I’m just really not seeing the correlation here.

Even if three different people took that class over five years, that’s three suicides out of 150 people. It’s still cause for concern, imo. I totally get that other things play into this, but I can’t help but think that Love Island is the catalyst.

[Wizard.]

Love Island honestly has more negative impacts on society than positive, suicides aside, it’s vapid and I genuinely think it’s deteimental to young people’s mental health.

I was chatting with my manager a while ago and she was talking about how her 16 year old wants a boob job and lip fillers to look better, because of what she’s seen on love island

Then they need to cast it better? Honestly I thought it was bad before I started watching last year and I enjoy it now, I just think they need more diversity. But then when they put someone like Shaugna in everyone on twitter calls her fat and chunky legs so is the show the problem or social media in general

[LukeB]

Then they need to cast it better? Honestly I thought it was bad before I started watching last year and I enjoy it now, I just think they need more diversity. But then when they put someone like Shaugna in everyone on twitter calls her fat and chunky legs so is the show the problem or social media in general

More needs to be done with social media and tabloids too that's the main issue. People get trolled and abuse on any show and only the victims suffer the consequences.

[Wizard.]

More needs to be done with social media and tabloids too that's the main issue. People get trolled and abuse on any show and only the victims suffer the consequences.

Yeah and it’s very complex as people are complex

Someone who is mentally stable and doesn’t have anything else going wrong in their life could just brush it off fine

Although LI wasn’t directly involved in these deaths, we’ll never really know if Sophie and Mike being on the show started something and that coupled with their existing and ongoing issues could’ve resulted in their deaths.

Caroline might’ve “stepped down” but we all know she would’ve been pushed out. Being without a job in winter, along with the court case and the abuse and trolling have all contributed to her death I think.

[Saph]

No because its a guilty pleasure of mine :skull:

[Greg!]

Yes unless they bring in some gays next season

[Strictly Jake]

No not yet but it doesnt have a long life left in it like bb had

[Saph]

its popularity is slowly decreasing now, I think it has a good 2/3 years left in it yet before it gets the chop

[Jessica.]

I think the main problem is how undiverse the show is, it could be so wholesome if they chose people of various ages with various body types to compete. 27 year olds are fossils in the love island world.

Another thing that is just my personal opinion is that people who have had body image issues which have probably affected their mental health, to the point that they have had surgery, probably shouldn't be put in the limelight where people will pick them apart and judge them so harshly.

[Calderyon]

Won't mind if it does, won't mind if it doesn't.

[Greg!]

I think the main problem is how undiverse the show is, it could be so wholesome if they chose people of various ages with various body types to compete. 27 year olds are fossils in the love island world.

Another thing that is just my personal opinion is that people who have had body image issues which have probably affected their mental health, to the point that they have had surgery, probably shouldn't be put in the limelight where people will pick them apart and judge them so harshly.

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[Greg!]

Big Brother had its (huge) faults but at least the housemates usually had varied backgrounds, personalities, size and appearance. One of LI’s many problems is the lack of body diversity

[LukeB]

Big Brother had its (huge) faults but at least the housemates usually had varied backgrounds, personalities, size and appearance. One of LI’s many problems is the lack of body diversity

issue is the ones who don't have the perfect body because there were some that didn't, they got trolled. Shaughna's legs were trending most nights and made fun of. which isn't the shows fault. I agree the show does need more body diversity not just 1 person but you then have to think of the trolls will they be able to handle it?

[Zizu]

Love Island honestly has more negative impacts on society than positive, suicides aside, it’s vapid and I genuinely think it’s deteimental to young people’s mental health.

I was chatting with my manager a while ago and she was talking about how her 16 year old wants a boob job and lip fillers to look better, because of what she’s seen on love island



That’s the thing I don’t get . Nobody looks better with fake boobs or lip filler .

I saw a survey that said that only males under 21 PREFERRED fake boobs to naturally ones ..

Guessing a lot of them have never seen fake boobs in the flesh or seen how the lie when flat or even felt how weird they feel . Those young men also described natural boobs as SAGGY !!!!

Crazy crazy


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[Zizu]

What’s Love Island got to do with her death though ?

I understand she was an alcoholic , suffering depression and was worried about the court case ..


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[Marsh.]

I do think the only reason Love Island has had so many suicides in quick succession and things like BB didn't was social media. Reality TV was tough enough back when it all started, but now they really can't escape the judgement online and off.

[Jessica.]

What’s Love Island got to do with her death though ?

I understand she was an alcoholic , suffering depression and was worried about the court case ..


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Nobody said it definitely has a correlation but this is a good time to think of the mental health of current and future contestants.

[Greg!]

issue is the ones who don't have the perfect body because there were some that didn't, they got trolled. Shaughna's legs were trending most nights and made fun of. which isn't the shows fault. I agree the show does need more body diversity not just 1 person but you then have to think of the trolls will they be able to handle it?

That is a very good point, but unfortunately no matter what you look like it’s likely you’ll get trolled if you go on reality TV. I saw a lot more tweets defending Shaughna than attacking her, in fact I only saw she was being trolled because of people condemning a nasty tweet about her in the replies. Also if there was more body diversity, those without a ‘perfect’ body wouldn’t stand out as much.

[rusticgal]

Yes!

Get rid and return to 1 CBB every january (with civi BB returning in about 5 years)


What’s the difference...CBB and BB come with the same scrutiny. Maybe it’s time to put an end to all reality TV. One comment or opinion of a contestant can bring catastrophic results and obviously the psycological tests they have prior to going on these shows are not good enough.

[GoldHeart]

Toxic devil program , it needs to go !.

It's utter trash no idea why it's popular :bored: .

[caprimint]

Sure, but not because of anything to do with Caroline's death. Hers was in no way related.

Mike and Sophie... I have no idea because I don't even watch the show. What I do wonder though is how many more people will it take to kill themselves before it's stopped? I guess the truth is, we don't really fully know their reasons and what caused them to commit suicide. The same applies for the guy on Jeremy Kyle. Can't understand how that show wasn't allowed to air anymore yet Love Island is though. :think:

[Marsh.]

But a class has 30 people, Love Island has had over 150. I’m sorry I’m just really not seeing the correlation here.

In 2018, there were 6,507 suicides registered in the UK, an age-standardised rate of 11.2 deaths per 100,000 population

11 per 100,000 in the population.

So, not seeing correlation in 3 out of a group of just 150 is bizarre to me.

[Mystic Mock]

How many people linked to this show have to die for it to become an issue, though?

This really.

It doesn't look like the show puts much care into people's mental health.

[Denver]

ITV has bent over backwards for their male stars in trouble so i dont understand why they shunned her and didn't give her the help she clearly needed

[arista]

3 deaths in 5 years isn’t a good look for any show, regardless of the specifics of each individual suicide. I don’t personally see how it can continue tbh.


It Still gets High Viewers

[EllieBrownFan]

Big Brother can stay dead. I will never forgive the public for awarding Cameron the win over Sian.

[GoldHeart]

This really.

It doesn't look like the show puts much care into people's mental health.

That is obvious.

Look at The JK show , it took a suicide for them to Axe! that. And that was a mockery freak show.

LI is extremely superficial & shallow , producers don't care about the mental health of these people. They're just pieces of meat to them.

[Denver]

For what reason?

It's basically a show that promotes being perfect looking and those who are not perfect are bullied on Social Media for the way they look.

[Zizu]

11 per 100,000 in the population.

So, not seeing correlation in 3 out of a group of just 150 is bizarre to me.



How is Love Island to blame though ?

Your figures are really down to 2 in however many ... so pure coincidence for those two ?

I’m only surmising , I know zero about the other two individuals.


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[Zizu]

Toxic devil program , it needs to go !.



It's utter trash no idea why it's popular :bored: .



It’s the social interactions , the comradery and ,,..
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[Liam-]

It’s essentially a breeding ground for normalising toxic relationships, body and mental health issues, it’s a show that teaches you that you have to be or look a certain way in order to feel wanted, loved or accepted, yes the people who go on there attribute to that all because they want a bit of fame, but the only people to blame are the producers who specifically choose these people to exploit them, like people have said already, if 3 people from the same class or school had killed themselves in this same time period, there would be massive investigations and for a channel that has prided itself on its mental health campaign, they’re certainly lapping up this show that is associated with so many suicides and I personally find it shameful.

[Samm]

It’s essentially a breeding ground for normalising toxic relationships, body and mental health issues, it’s a show that teaches you that you have to be or look a certain way in order to feel wanted, loved or accepted, yes the people who go on there attribute to that all because they want a bit of fame, but the only people to blame are the producers who specifically choose these people to exploit them, like people have said already, if 3 people from the same class or school had killed themselves in this same time period, there would be massive investigations and for a channel that has prided itself on its mental health campaign, they’re certainly lapping up this show that is associated with so many suicides and I personally find it shameful.

! Couldn’t have said it better

[Crimson Dynamo]

It’s essentially a breeding ground for normalising toxic relationships, body and mental health issues, it’s a show that teaches you that you have to be or look a certain way in order to feel wanted, loved or accepted, yes the people who go on there attribute to that all because they want a bit of fame, but the only people to blame are the producers who specifically choose these people to exploit them, like people have said already, if 3 people from the same class or school had killed themselves in this same time period, there would be massive investigations and for a channel that has prided itself on its mental health campaign, they’re certainly lapping up this show that is associated with so many suicides and I personally find it shameful.

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[Zizu]

:clap1:



But some of the women are just amazing ... come on guys ..


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[Crimson Dynamo]

But some of the women are just amazing ... come on guys ..


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Nope i find them just awful

[Zizu]

Nope i find them just awful



You are now nothing to me ..

:)


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[JerseyWins]

I just find it cringey af

Yes it's less cringey than some dude yelling in a "diary room" :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

You are now nothing to me ..

:)


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that's Mr Nothing

to you

:)

[Marsh.]

How is Love Island to blame though ?

Your figures are really down to 2 in however many ... so pure coincidence for those two ?

I’m only surmising , I know zero about the other two individuals.


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Yes. A coincidence... sure.

[Zizu]

Yes. A coincidence... sure.



What happened to sharing the love and being kind to others ..

I did say that I know nothing about the other two deaths .. I didn’t even watch Love Island back then .


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[Jason.]

I don't think it's the show itself but more the people who watch it and the platform they have to spew their poison.

Love Island Twitter has become a cesspool as the show's gotten bigger each year. Even when producers try to cast more diverse types, you have Fiat 500 being racist or body-shaming for clout. Leanne was being compared to a monkey as soon as her promo pics were released and people have been body-shaming Shaughna's legs the entire series.

The thing with Love Island is that social media plays a big part in its success compared to other reality shows. From the nightly twitter commentary to contestant post-show fame being mainly concentrated on Instagram so they're exposed to all the negativity.

It's why the show was better in its early series before it blew up and everyone started watching and tweeting about it.

I think the rot has set in for the show anyway. Suicide controversies aside, having two series a year will oversaturate the brand and this current winter series hasn't been that good, it's also the first where ratings have fallen. It's become a victim of its success like BB did.

[Marsh.]

What happened to sharing the love and being kind to others ..

I did say that I know nothing about the other two deaths .. I didn’t even watch Love Island back then .


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You're off on a tangent now pal.

[Macie Lightfoot]

It becomes an issue when people are dying as a direct result of the show. As I said, lots of people kill themselves over stress, depression etc. Should we abolish schools because some students can’t cope with the pressure to succeed?

Schools (in America at least) with multiple instances of suicide absolutely do look inward and try to figure out how they can prevent another tragedy from happening again. It takes 1-2 deaths before people start to question what needs to change.

[Owoaje1993]

But the show needs to be axed I think because on that show they expect the contestants to be perfect and people get judged and treated like **** after the show which gives them depression so I do blame the show mostly then followed by the media because if it wasn’t for the show and how they come across the media wouldn’t do anything along with its television I can guarantee people that on that show the contestants are told what to do and how to act just to cause drama because if you think about it love island is a television reality show which lives off drama and the media do bullies them because of that also love island it comes across as you have to be super good looking and be a complete dick or bitch to find love

[Amy Jade]

I don't think it's the show itself but more the people who watch it and the platform they have to spew their poison.

Love Island Twitter has become a cesspool as the show's gotten bigger each year. Even when producers try to cast more diverse types, you have Fiat 500 being racist or body-shaming for clout. Leanne was being compared to a monkey as soon as her promo pics were released and people have been body-shaming Shaughna's legs the entire series.

The thing with Love Island is that social media plays a big part in its success compared to other reality shows. From the nightly twitter commentary to contestant post-show fame being mainly concentrated on Instagram so they're exposed to all the negativity.

It's why the show was better in its early series before it blew up and everyone started watching and tweeting about it.

I think the rot has set in for the show anyway. Suicide controversies aside, having two series a year will oversaturate the brand and this current winter series hasn't been that good, it's also the first where ratings have fallen. It's become a victim of its success like BB did.

Great post.

The body shaming is horrific, if you look on twitter people were attacking Shaughna's legs and Jess 'lazy' eye heavily and Georgia Steels year that Alexandra Cane girl who was a bit curvy was getting called fat and a blob.

I understand people maybe having an opinion on say Jess's lips because they are enhanced and people will always have opinions on surgery and fillers but to attack someone for their leg proportions is soooo pathetic

[Zizu]

But the show needs to be axed I think because on that show they expect the contestants to be perfect and people get judged and treated like **** after the show which gives them depression so I do blame the show mostly then followed by the media because if it wasn’t for the show and how they come across the media wouldn’t do anything along with its television I can guarantee people that on that show the contestants are told what to do and how to act just to cause drama because if you think about it love island is a television reality show which lives off drama and the media do bullies them because of that also love island it comes across as you have to be super good looking and be a complete dick or bitch to find love



Your suggestion is a nonsense if only due to the fact that you don’t seem like or even watch the program ..

How about we cancel and ban your favourite program .. XFactor ?
She worked on the program and lost that plum job .. maybe that’s when he problems all started ??


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[Gstar]

If there wasn’t a winter series the recent events would have less to do with the show, not to say the reasoning has no connection to the show but it doesn’t help with a series currently airing

[Zizu]

If there wasn’t a winter series the recent events would have less to do with the show, not to say the reasoning has no connection to the show but it doesn’t help with a series currently airing



We don’t know though .. she was pleased her great friend Laura was hosting the show .. maybe it was a welcome distraction


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[Owoaje1993]

Your suggestion is a nonsense if only due to the fact that you don’t seem like or even watch the program ..

How about we cancel and ban your favourite program .. XFactor ?
She worked on the program and lost that plum job .. maybe that’s when he problems all started ??


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No not really what I’m saying people on that show get body shamed Online people are supposed to look perfect in the media and it does bring down people’s confidence and the contestants who go on the show come across as egotistical who are chasing fame plus so many of these contestants get bullied online Which isn’t right and some of them are probably influenced by producers and are told what to do by them. Three people from the show have now died which is sad. Also from watching clips here and there I personally think the show messes with some of the contestants mental health. Also viewers need to understand that the contestants are human just like everybody else’ who genuinely have feelings and gets emotional. I think love island brings a bad idea to a younger generation on how they should look.

[Niamh.]

I like Laura but I think it's either naive of her or disingenuous of her to make out Love Island is an actual programme where people are genuinely looking to find love. In my opinion it's a fame seeking, narcissistic show and probably should be cancelled because it promotes the exact mentality that may have contributed to Caroline's death. RIP to her.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Spot on neem

[Zizu]

I like Laura but I think it's either naive of her or disingenuous of her to make out Love Island is an actual programme where people are genuinely looking to find love. In my opinion it's a fame seeking, narcissistic show and probably should be cancelled because it promotes the exact mentality that may have contributed to Caroline's death. RIP to her.



All that said .. it seems that you don’t watch , like nor comment on the Love Island series soooooo


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[Marsh.]

Yeah, Niamh how DARE you have an opinion on the show without getting your permission slip signed first.

[Zizu]

No not really what I’m saying people on that show get body shamed Online people are supposed to look perfect in the media and it does bring down people’s confidence and the contestants who go on the show come across as egotistical who are chasing fame plus so many of these contestants get bullied online Which isn’t right and some of them are probably influenced by producers and are told what to do by them. Three people from the show have now died which is sad. Also from watching clips here and there I personally think the show messes with some of the contestants mental health. Also viewers need to understand that the contestants are human just like everybody else’ who genuinely have feelings and gets emotional. I think love island brings a bad idea to a younger generation on how they should look.



Oddly the most popular person on the show by a county mile was Shaunagh who has trust issues , lip filler and certainly doesn’t have a perfect body .. soooooo


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[Owoaje1993]

Oddly the most popular person on the show by a county mile was Shaunagh who has trust issues , lip filler and certainly doesn’t have a perfect body .. soooooo


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People made fun of her though because of her legs granted she got some support but still trolls can really bring down somebody’s confidence

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.capitalfm.com/news/tv-film/love-island/shaughna-legs-fans-defend-trolls-casa-amor-callum/

[Zizu]

People made fun of her though because of her legs granted she got some support but still trolls can really bring down somebody’s confidence

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.capitalfm.com/news/tv-film/love-island/shaughna-legs-fans-defend-trolls-casa-amor-callum/



If it was down to simply viewers voting though she’d have won easily .. think she’s the only LI contestant to reach 1 million followers..so the show will have boosted her confidence immeasurably .


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[Niamh.]

All that said .. it seems that you don’t watch , like nor comment on the Love Island series soooooo


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProI've watched a couple of episodes here and there with my daughter, yes. So you're kind of right, I don't like it but I have watched it so it's as valid an opinion as yours I would argue

[Zizu]

I've watched a couple of episodes here and there with my daughter, yes. So you're kind of right, I don't like it but I have watched it so it's as valid an opinion as yours I would argue


Is it though if you’ve begrudgingly watched just a couple of episodes whilst I watched every single second ??

As mentioned above people like Shaunagh will come out of this feeling fabulous about herself


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[Jessica.]

Is it though if you’ve begrudgingly watched just a couple of episodes whilst I watched every single second ??

As mentioned above people like Shaunagh will come out of this feeling fabulous about herself


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You can't expect her to watch every episode if she doesn't enjoy the show. That is ridiculous. Her opinion is not less valuable than yours and it's probably even more valuable because her opinion is the right one.

[Marsh.]

You can't expect her to watch every episode if she doesn't enjoy the show. That is ridiculous. Her opinion is just as valuable as yours and it's probably even more valuable because her opinion is the right one.

:joker:

[Zizu]

You can't expect her to watch every episode if she doesn't enjoy the show. That is ridiculous. Her opinion is not less valuable than yours and it's probably even more valuable because her opinion is the right one.



In your opinion..

Again though you don’t appear to like the program , 23,000 posts yet you don’t post in the Love Island thread suggests you don’t watch it .. and yet have an extreme viewpoint .

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[Niamh.]

With all due respect Zizu, liking a programme doesn't make it ethically correct, infact most times ethically incorrect makes it more popular

[Jessica.]

In your opinion..

Again though you don’t appear to like the program , 23,000 posts yet you don’t post in the Love Island thread suggests you don’t watch it .. and yet have an extreme viewpoint .

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This is why you shouldn't assume you know everything. Look what I am watching literally right now

http://puu.sh/Fbo3Y/b66654853e.png

[Zizu]

This is why you shouldn't assume you know everything. Look what I am watching literally right now



http://puu.sh/Fbo3Y/b66654853e.png



If you were even slightly interested in the program surely one of your 23,000 posts would have been in the Winter Love Island thread


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[Barry.]

If you were even slightly interested in the program surely one of your 23,000 posts would have been in the Winter Love Island thread


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Are you insulting her posting count? She doesn't need to post in the LI thread to be a fan. Shes behind so doesn't want to be spoiled. You may also see Jessica isn't in the uk so cant watch it live.


Anyway, Namh your thoughts are just as important as anyones.

For me I don't think it should be cancelled but maybe a better check on the mental health background of the cast.

[Shaun]

strong returning-banned-member vibes from that one, btw

[bots]

i don't watch the show, so i couldn't care less if it were axed or not.

ITV 2 is not on my watched channel list, so it's not like it would end up being replaced by something i would watch

[Jake.]

If you were even slightly interested in the program surely one of your 23,000 posts would have been in the Winter Love Island thread


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:joker:

How ridiculous.

[Niamh.]

Love Island honestly has more negative impacts on society than positive, suicides aside, it’s vapid and I genuinely think it’s deteimental to young people’s mental health.

I was chatting with my manager a while ago and she was talking about how her 16 year old wants a boob job and lip fillers to look better, because of what she’s seen on love island

Yep, agree with all that. I wouldn't normally be one for saying a programme I don't like should be cancelled because I can just not watch it but I do think programmes like this one send out awful messages to young people

[Zizu]

Yep, agree with all that. I wouldn't normally be one for saying a programme I don't like should be cancelled because I can just not watch it but I do think programmes like this one send out awful messages to young people



That’s a perfectly reasonable stance to take and whilst you may be right .. we just don’t know .

We do know that millions of people regularly look forward and watch each and every episode/ series though .


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[Niamh.]

That’s a perfectly reasonable stance to take and whilst you may be right .. we just don’t know .

We do know that millions of people regularly look forward and watch each and every episode/ series though .


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I wouldn't really be bothered about adults tbf, it's just when I think about younger teenage girls and boys (or even younger) watching it, thinking that these contestants are people to be copied or looked up to.

[LukeB]

I wouldn't really be bothered about adults tbf, it's just when I think about younger teenage girls and boys (or even younger) watching it, thinking that these contestants are people to be copied or looked up to.

Tbf that’s been going on for years and li shouldn’t be only one getting the blame. The media shames people who don’t look attractive without make up, if they gain weight there’s loads of articles about it and women are pitted against each other. We all see it and that can make a impact on others. These young people are also thinking the kardashians are to be copied and looked up which promotes plastic surgery.

People are shamed on li for having it done and taking the piss pre-surgery. More needs to be done about social media and tabloids which are the real issue.

[Zizu]

I wouldn't really be bothered about adults tbf, it's just when I think about younger teenage girls and boys (or even younger) watching it, thinking that these contestants are people to be copied or looked up to.



The same can be said for so many tv shows though .. isn’t there one that compares and judges faces ??


Oddly enough they regularly show women without makeup when they’re removing it at night and when they awake in the mornings so it can’t be argued that they only show perfection.

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[Niamh.]

Tbf that’s been going on for years and li shouldn’t be only one getting the blame. The media shames people who don’t look attractive without make up, if they gain weight there’s loads of articles about it and women are competed against each other. We all see it and that can make a impact on others. These young people are also thinking the kardashians are to be copied and looked up which promotes plastic surgery.

People are shamed on li for having it done and taking the piss pre-surgery. More needs to be done about social media and tabloids which are the real issue.

Yeah, it's definitely a wider problem than just this show

The same can be said for so many tv shows though .. isn’t there one that compares and judges faces ??


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Is there? What show is that?

[Morgan.]

Yeah, it's definitely a wider problem than just this show



Is there? What show is that?

Your Face or Mine. Couples go on, their partner is matched against a member of the public or one of their exes, and they have to guess who the audience thought was more attractive. They win money for guessing correctly.

[Niamh.]

Your Face or Mine. Couples go on, their partner is matched against a member of the public or one of their exes, and they have to guess who the audience thought was more attractive. They win money for guessing correctly.

Oh god, that sounds pretty bad :skull:

[Zizu]

Oh god, that sounds pretty bad :skull:



Yes I’d agree . I’m sure there are many other examples but they don’t appeal to me so I really can’t be certain.


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[Cal.]

They’ve aired a series now in 2020. They should rest it until summer 2021 now.

[Mystic Mock]

That is obvious.

Look at The JK show , it took a suicide for them to Axe! that. And that was a mockery freak show.

LI is extremely superficial & shallow , producers don't care about the mental health of these people. They're just pieces of meat to them.

Tbh with how vile The JK Show could be, I'm amazed that it didn't have more suicides.

[Saph]

I mean LI is hardly that bad itself.. its the local fans that are the problem

X Factor etc literally take the piss out of innocent people and parade the on TV for a laugh at their expense and nothing ever gets said about that because its marketed as a family friendly show

[Tony Montana]

If you were even slightly interested in the program surely one of your 23,000 posts would have been in the Winter Love Island thread


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She has posted in the discussion thread.

[Mystic Mock]

I don't think it's the show itself but more the people who watch it and the platform they have to spew their poison.

Love Island Twitter has become a cesspool as the show's gotten bigger each year. Even when producers try to cast more diverse types, you have Fiat 500 being racist or body-shaming for clout. Leanne was being compared to a monkey as soon as her promo pics were released and people have been body-shaming Shaughna's legs the entire series.

The thing with Love Island is that social media plays a big part in its success compared to other reality shows. From the nightly twitter commentary to contestant post-show fame being mainly concentrated on Instagram so they're exposed to all the negativity.

It's why the show was better in its early series before it blew up and everyone started watching and tweeting about it.

I think the rot has set in for the show anyway. Suicide controversies aside, having two series a year will oversaturate the brand and this current winter series hasn't been that good, it's also the first where ratings have fallen. It's become a victim of its success like BB did.

But why is LI attracting such a vicious Social Media base? BB fans could be bad on there, but never to the point of Housemates killing themselves.

[LukeB]

But why is LI attracting such a vicious Social Media base? BB fans could be bad on there, but never to the point of Housemates killing themselves.

All shows attracts all these kind of abuse. It's just how social media is these days and nothing is really done about it, a show can't be blamed for what trolls and vile people do online. twitter/fb are more responsible for that by not really doing anything about it. it's shocking. Yeah the accounts get suspended and banned but you can make another account straight away.

Instagram has this thing where you can turn comments off or control the comment, anything negative will be automatically deleted, which is a great thing to do and other platforms should learn.

[Mystic Mock]

All shows attracts all these kind of abuse. It's just how social media is these days and nothing is really done about it, a show can't be blamed for what trolls and vile people do online. twitter/fb are more responsible for that by not really doing anything about it. it's shocking. Yeah the accounts get suspended and banned but you can make another account straight away.

Instagram has this thing where you can turn comments off or control the comment, anything negative will be automatically deleted, which is a great thing to do and other platforms should learn.

That's a good system from Instagram.

Yeah Twitter and Facebook need better moderating, because half of the **** that gets said on those platforms would see any of us banned on here, and rightly so imo.

And how does Twitter and Facebook not keep a better track of multiple accounts? If a member has been banned off the site, then they should be keeping an eye out on them possibly coming back on under a different name.

And to me any Show that has 3 suicides in the space of 5 or 6 years would make me think that there's something wrong with the programme.

[LukeB]

I mean LI is hardly that bad itself.. its the local fans that are the problem

X Factor etc literally take the piss out of innocent people and parade the on TV for a laugh at their expense and nothing ever gets said about that because its marketed as a family friendly show

yep

X Factor actually got someone on with mental illness and broadcasted their audition. The obvious was Shirlena Johnson, i do admit laughing at her performance when it aired but looking back i don't know how she got on the show, how it was shown and how she got through. She was axed before bootcamp over fears for her mental health which i assume was before x factor started and they still broadcasted her audition.

[Tony Montana]

That's a good system from Instagram.

Yeah Twitter and Facebook need better moderating, because half of the **** that gets said on those platforms would see any of us banned on here, and rightly so imo.

And how does Twitter and Facebook not keep a better track of multiple accounts? If a member has been banned off the site, then they should be keeping an eye out on them possibly coming back on under a different name.

And to me any Show that has 3 suicides in the space of 5 or 6 years would make me think that there's something wrong with the programme.

Flack's death had nothing to do with the show, that's pretty obvious by now. Anybody who thinks otherwise clearly hates the show that much.

With Mike, it was his behaviour on Celebs go Dating that received a lot of backlash. He behaved like an utter jerk on that show, worse than he behaved on LI and he was slated on social media every night. He was probably told to behave like that for the controversy and ratings because he was noting like that on LI. (but should we blame that show, nope let's just blame LI) Mike had been struggling to come to terms with the deaths of both his best friend and his grandmother over a short space of time. All of that plus being referred to as ''muggy'' by the press clearly took its toll on him.

Sophie had a history of mental health problems. She had been diagnosed with depression and low self-esteem in 2013 and was taking medication for social anxiety disorder at the time of her death. Nothing to do with the show itself. If the show was that bad then there would be more suicides. The aftercare has obviously improved since Mike's death. There hasn't been any contestants who've committed suicide last year, or even the year before that too when Sophie died.

[Niamh.]

I mean LI is hardly that bad itself.. its the local fans that are the problem

X Factor etc literally take the piss out of innocent people and parade the on TV for a laugh at their expense and nothing ever gets said about that because its marketed as a family friendly show

It was one of the reasons I stopped watching it tbh (among other things)

[Jessica.]

Yeah, X Factor became way less light hearted after a while, it seemed more and more like they were exploiting people and it took the fun out of it for me, I couldn't continue watching.

[Jigs]

Love Island is a great springboard for so many young people to carve a career for themselves and to be successful. Although this is a good thing, I do feel like the show itself has become tainted by the tragedies of Sophie, Mike and Caroline. On top of this, I find the show to be really one-note (same villa, similar challenges, same carbon copies of past contestants, etc.) so I feel like the longer it airs, the less impact it's going to have and the less beneficial it's going to be for those who go on it. Therefore, the less beneficial it becomes for the contestants = the less purpose/place it has on national TV.

I don't think it should be cancelled because of the deaths, but I definitely feel it should wrap up sooner rather than later because I don't fully see the point of having a problematic show continue to air when all that says about us is that we prioritise our own entertainment over the well-being of those people we find our entertainment from. It would be a gesture that doesn't necessary reflect any degree of failure for the show, but moreso a gesture of respect that punctuates the franchise with a more positive note which, despite the sombre circumstances of the cancellation, would signify some sort of notion like "This was great while it lasted, made a huge impact, but now it's time to move on to something new."

[Niamh.]

Yeah, X Factor became way less light hearted after a while, it seemed more and more like they were exploiting people and it took the fun out of it for me, I couldn't continue watching.

Absolutely and a lot of those people seemed like they could have had learning difficulties or mental health issues which makes it even more disgusting

[Zizu]

Please excuse some shameless copy and paste here .. it is an interesting take on things though , I feel
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People are comparing LI to the Jeremy Kyle tragedy and saying that Love Island should also be axed.

Sad because the people saying that have never watched Love Island and are quite anti reality TV in general. I only started watching Love Island last year, having been a massive Big Brother supporter. It has been a revelation to me at just how respectful the programme is. I think non watchers see it as some kind of organised drunken orgy, couldn't be further from the truth, little alcohol and we only really see the odd kiss. The contestants do seem to watch out for each other as well. It's very sad that those deaths will be associated with it, particularly as in each case there were much bigger factors involved.

[Jessica.]

Please excuse some shameless copy and paste here .. it is an interesting take on things though , I feel
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People are comparing LI to the Jeremy Kyle tragedy and saying that Love Island should also be axed.

Sad because the people saying that have never watched Love Island and are quite anti reality TV in general. I only started watching Love Island last year, having been a massive Big Brother supporter. It has been a revelation to me at just how respectful the programme is. I think non watchers see it as some kind of organised drunken orgy, couldn't be further from the truth, little alcohol and we only really see the odd kiss. The contestants do seem to watch out for each other as well. It's very sad that those deaths will be associated with it, particularly as in each case there were much bigger factors involved.

This is not correct, almost everyone in this thread enjoys some form of Reality TV, we just know when things have gone too far.

[Niamh.]

Please excuse some shameless copy and paste here .. it is an interesting take on things though , I feel
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People are comparing LI to the Jeremy Kyle tragedy and saying that Love Island should also be axed.

Sad because the people saying that have never watched Love Island and are quite anti reality TV in general. I only started watching Love Island last year, having been a massive Big Brother supporter. It has been a revelation to me at just how respectful the programme is. I think non watchers see it as some kind of organised drunken orgy, couldn't be further from the truth, little alcohol and we only really see the odd kiss. The contestants do seem to watch out for each other as well. It's very sad that those deaths will be associated with it, particularly as in each case there were much bigger factors involved.

I mean this is a big statement to make considering this is literally a forum for Big Brother and other Reality TV shows....unless that comment was aimed at the general public rather than this forum?

[Zizu]

I mean this is a big statement to make considering this is literally a forum for Big Brother and other Reality TV shows....unless that comment was aimed at the general public rather than this forum?



It was taken from another source completely nothing to do with this forum ..


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[Niamh.]

It was taken from another source completely nothing to do with this forum ..


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Fair enough