Spain government debating to expand lockdown for 2 more week

[michael21]

The UK government is looking to see what other do around the world the outcome of this debate will be very interesting

[Denver]

The UK will relax it at the start of may

[Cherie]

I was listening to the traffic reports this morning the lockdown is starting to break I think....

[Niamh.]

I reckon our government (Ireland Zizu :p ) will start to relax the lockdown rules on May 5th, depending on how our cases/death figures are looking by then I suppose but from stuff Leo has said it seems that's the way they want to go

TAOISEACH Leo Varadkar has suggested restrictions designed to stop the spread of Covid-19 will begin to ease on May 5.

“That’s what I’m, hoping,” he said tonight, adding that a plan would be shared with the public before that date.

Mr Varadkar urged businesses and schools to begin to consider how they will operate with social distancing measures in place when they are allowed to reopen.

Speaking on RTE’s Prime Time, he said there were three criteria to be met to so as to begin to relax the lockdown.
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/it-wont-be-back-to-normal-on-day-one-taoiseach-leo-varadkar-on-plans-to-ease-restrictions-39147473.html

[michael21]

I think the UK will add on 3 more weeks as it far to soon to do anything more

[Smithy]

UK cases/deaths are showing no signs of slowing so I don’t see their lockdown being lifted anytime soon

Guernsey’s restrictions aren’t starting to be lifted this Saturday though :hee:

[Niamh.]

UK cases/deaths are showing no signs of slowing so I don’t see their lockdown being lifted anytime soon

Guernsey’s restrictions aren’t starting to be lifted this Saturday though :hee:

Are there many cases there Smithy? You would think if you can get a handle on it, it would be easier to keep it out on a small Island

[Denver]

UK cases/deaths are showing no signs of slowing so I don’t see their lockdown being lifted anytime soon

Guernsey’s restrictions aren’t starting to be lifted this Saturday though :hee:

It's not the deaths you need to be looking at and we hit our peak weeks ago and it should with in the next week or 2 start to drop.

Also not all the deaths are from 24 hours some hospitals take days to relay back deaths especially at weekends so it gets added to the midweek totals

[Smithy]

Are there many cases there Smithy? You would think if you can get a handle on it, it would be easier to keep it out on a small Island

241 so far, but we went into lockdown after like 20 odd cases because the first person to person transmission (in Guernsey) was recorded. So it’s been about 4 weeks(?) or so of lockdown so far, the restrictions they’re lifting are only gonna be things like Gardner’s going back to work stuff like that.

I think they’ve done a good job so far, but it only really takes one person for the whole thing to get out of hand again

[Cherie]

Hospital admissions in London have been on a downward trend for at least a week now, the rest of the UK is still in a plateau

[Niamh.]

241 so far, but we went into lockdown after like 20 odd cases because the first person to person transmission (in Guernsey) was recorded. So it’s been about 4 weeks(?) or so of lockdown so far, the restrictions they’re lifting are only gonna be things like Gardner’s going back to work stuff like that.

I think they’ve done a good job so far, but it only really takes one person for the whole thing to get out of hand again

Yeah this the thing isn't it and when you look at that on a worldwide scale, it's hard to see how we're ever going to get back to "normal" until they can get a vaccine for it (if they can, I don't even want to think about what will happen if they can't) If lot's of different countries are all doing different things and then we all start travelling between countries again. To be absolutely safe, they would really have to ban travel between countries until a vaccine is in place

[Cherie]

Yeah this the thing isn't it and when you look at that on a worldwide scale, it's hard to see how we're ever going to get back to "normal" until they can get a vaccine for it (if they can, I don't even want to think about what will happen if they can't) If lot's of different countries are all doing different things and then we all start travelling between countries again. To be absolutely safe, they would really have to ban travel between countries until a vaccine is in place

seems to be no easy answer apart from over 70s and those at risk with underlying conditions stay at home until a vaccine is found which could be never :shrug: I think we will just have to start living with it....no gatherings will help and people continuing to work from home where possible

[Cherie]

UK cases/deaths are showing no signs of slowing so I don’t see their lockdown being lifted anytime soon

Guernsey’s restrictions aren’t starting to be lifted this Saturday though :hee:

untrue, London hospital admissions peaked a week about and have been on a downward trajectory, at any rate it isn't a pissing contest of course a small Island will handle it better though, for a population of 63,000 241 seems a lot given Wales with a population of 3 million has had about 600 deaths, is there a high number of elderly residents?

[Niamh.]

seems to be no easy answer apart from over 70s and those at risk with underlying conditions stay at home until a vaccine is found which could be never :shrug: I think we will just have to start living with it....no gatherings will help and people continuing to work from home where possible

Well, the lockdown was only ever to give hospitals and our health systems a chance to prepare itself so I hope they've done that adequately for the time when they begin relaxing the rules.And yeah I agree with you. Schools will be one of the biggest challenges though, I just can't imagine how they could implement safe social distances in places like schools and universities though and it's those places are likely to set the whole thing off again

[user104658]

I was listening to the traffic reports this morning the lockdown is starting to break I think....My wife messaged me just after she arrived at work today, saying that the roads were as busy this morning as any pre-lockdown morning and it was really weird. They've been very quiet up until now - including Monday and Tuesday this week. What's changed today :think:

[Cherie]

My wife messaged me just after she arrived at work today, saying that the roads were as busy this morning as any pre-lockdown morning and it was really weird. They've been very quiet up until now - including Monday and Tuesday this week. What's changed today :think:

don't know its the first morning I heard of an accident for weeks or log jams!

[michael21]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-52377357

Mid May at least now

[James]

In the Spanish lockdown children haven't been allowed to leave their homes for any reason.

Although they are changing that on 26th April.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52380654

[arista]

21,717 Covid Death Total today in Spain

[michael21]

In the Spanish lockdown children haven't been allowed to leave their homes for any reason.

Although they are changing that on 26th April.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52380654

That bad but if it keep them safe :shrug:

[Scarlett.]

My wife messaged me just after she arrived at work today, saying that the roads were as busy this morning as any pre-lockdown morning and it was really weird. They've been very quiet up until now - including Monday and Tuesday this week. What's changed today :think:

They've started letting people travel and saying you can go out more than once a day for exercise, a big mistake given we're still at the peak

[Cherie]

They've started letting people travel and saying you can go out more than once a day for exercise, a big mistake given we're still at the peak

I haven seen any change in the guidance and at the briefings they resist talking about an exit strategy but the journos keep pushing which is pretty annoying as it gives people ideas

[James]

My wife messaged me just after she arrived at work today, saying that the roads were as busy this morning as any pre-lockdown morning and it was really weird. They've been very quiet up until now - including Monday and Tuesday this week. What's changed today :think:

I think one of the predictions by the government behaviour insights unit (might have been someone else) was that people would eventually tire of the lockdown and start to resume their normal activities, so lockdowns would only be effective for a certain amount of time.

Info on their Covid-19 work here - https://www.bi.team/our-work/covid-19/

[GoldHeart]

The UK will relax it at the start of may

They keep telling us a few more weeks here and there, I honestly think it will be longer than people think.

They can't put a time limit on it .

[Denver]

They keep telling us a few more weeks here and there, I honestly think it will be longer than people think.

They can't put a time limit on it .

They have to relax it to avoid us crippling as a nation, 6 weeks is gonna destroy us enough any more would be terrible and they have to get certain business open again to avoid them going out of business

[Nicky91]

They have to relax it to avoid us crippling as a nation, 6 weeks is gonna destroy us enough any more would be terrible and they have to get certain business open again to avoid them going out of business

relax it and then 2.000 more deaths a day :bored:

[Denver]

relax it and then 2.000 more deaths a day :bored:

Dont relax it and 50,000 people die from cancer because they cant be treated

[Nicky91]

or they get treated for cancer and then get infected by corona and still die

which is also possible

[Denver]

I'd rather take my chances and risk getting that to get a chance to live whether then stay inside an let the cancer spread

[GoldHeart]

They have to relax it to avoid us crippling as a nation, 6 weeks is gonna destroy us enough any more would be terrible and they have to get certain business open again to avoid them going out of business

So they keep saying,but what will they do if the covid-19 remains and more people die?? .

[Denver]

So they keep saying,but what will they do if the covid-19 remains and more people die?? .

The true reality is this virus is here to stay and will never go away so what do you want? To keep everyone locked up till a vaccine is available to fight back? It's not doable and being in lockdown also increases the risk of suicide/ Domestic voilence/ Child Abuse/ Depression ect.

People are going to suffer either way so you have to find a solution that fits aswell as keeping everyone safe.

The fact is they already predicting deaths from Cancer will be higher then the virus due to people not allowed to have their treatment that are saving them.