Laurence Fox insists he will 'not stand by' and be silenced by the BLM protests

[arista]

Yes do not let the MOB stop you.


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/06/18/14/29762592-8435825-image-a-18_1592485542308.jpg

['I will continue to say what I believe to be true':
Laurence Fox insists he will 'not stand by' and be silenced by
the BLM protests despite fears he may never work again
after backlash over comments on race and 'woke' culture
The star drama Lewis said the possible
end of his career was cause of 'sadness'
Fox has courted controversy with tweets
and an appearance on Question Time
Writing in The Spectator he said he
would continue speaking his mind]

[The star of ITV drama Lewis, writing
in the conservative magazine The Spectator,
said it was a 'cause of sadness'
at the possible loss of his career
and the 'bleak view of my prospects'
came after his appearance on Question Time.
He accused Rachel Boyle, an academic
at Edge Hill University, of racism after she
called him 'a white privileged male' on Question Time.]


[Writing in the Spectator he said:
'I have come to the conclusion that I may never
get an acting job again
without expressing ‘correct’ opinions.
'While this probably isn’t the end of the world
for you, it is a cause of some sadness and anxiety for me.
'Not least because I’ve always loved my job
and also because I have two children
who need dinner and clothes
and a holiday once in a while.']


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8435825/Laurence-Fox-insists-not-stand-silenced-BLM-protests.html

[Shaun]

A fading actor with an exciting new prospect in far-right posterboy money, not a fan of a populist movement? Colour me shocked.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Speaking for the GBP as per

He will of course trigger passengers on the Bandwagon who follow the "popstars" like sheep

Well said sir

[Ammi]

.... 'I have come to the conclusion that I may never
get an acting job again’...When he uses that type of contrived dialogue, I feel that he’s Not playing from the heart, but playing to an ‘audience‘...it’s interesting since the horrendous murder of George Floyd, how many people are painting themselves as the victim ...and they only start shouting when another black life becomes a victim...

[arista]

A fading actor with an exciting new prospect in far-right posterboy money, not a fan of a populist movement? Colour me shocked.


He is not a fading Actor
He was in the Award-winning 1917 Film
which I watched in a 4DX cinema

[MB.]

We didn't ask for his opinion

[Morgan.]

Interesting that he listed ‘a holiday’ as one of his children’s basic needs alongside food and clothes.

[Crimson Dynamo]

We didn't ask for his opinion

Yet here you are....

[arista]

We didn't ask for his opinion

His Views are published in a Magazine
that's why we have a thread on it.


And many
Respect him as an Actor

[Liam-]

No-one is silencing him, it’s not BLM’s fault that he hasn’t worked for a year

[arista]

No-one is silencing him, it’s not BLM’s fault that he hasn’t worked for a year

You do not know that.

[Morgan.]

No-one is silencing him, it’s not BLM’s fault that he hasn’t worked for a year

Tbf he was just one of the main cast in a Netflix show that could be getting a second season :joker:

[Liam-]

You do not know that.

Ugh, he was jumping on the Hopkins train before any of this started because he was skint and saw an opportunity

[Liam-]

Tbf he was just one of the main cast in a Netflix show that could be getting a second season :joker:

Ew

[Niamh.]

Tbf he was just one of the main cast in a Netflix show that could be getting a second season :joker:

The show totally doesn't need a second season, the characters were all really unlikeable imo and the only interesting thing about it was seeing the who dun it in the end, what's the point in a second season?

[Morgan.]

The show totally doesn't need a second season, the characters were all really unlikeable imo and the only interesting thing about it was seeing the who dun it in the end, what's the point in a second season?

No it doesn’t need it, however the cast have all expressed interest in doing more and I think the writers were keen to explore more into the lives of them :joker:

[hijaxers]

.... 'I have come to the conclusion that I may never
get an acting job again’...When he uses that type of contrived dialogue, I feel that he’s Not playing from the heart, but playing to an ‘audience‘...it’s interesting since the horrendous murder of George Floyd, how many people are painting themselves as the victim ...and they only start shouting when another black life becomes a victim...

How nice to se you are back:wavey:

I hope you and yours are all well

[Livia]

In an age where actors and singers seem to be the voice of the generation that is going to save us all... I don't see why he cannot say what he feels. I don't see why anybody should be silenced.

[Niamh.]

No it doesn’t need it, however the cast have all expressed interest in doing more and I think the writers were keen to explore more into the lives of them :joker:

Literally not one of them were likeable, oh actually I take that back I liked Boxer.not enough to watch Season 2 though

[joeysteele]

.... 'I have come to the conclusion that I may never
get an acting job again’...When he uses that type of contrived dialogue, I feel that he’s Not playing from the heart, but playing to an ‘audience‘...it’s interesting since the horrendous murder of George Floyd, how many people are painting themselves as the victim ...and they only start shouting when another black life becomes a victim...

Absolutely a joy to see you on here again too Ammi.

I agree completely with your post.
Totally right your mention of George Floyd's death being horrendous.

The other massive concern I had on that death was, how awful it was plus it was filmed.
Then for me, just what other atrocities are done in circumstances where filming isn't done.

Frightening.

[Nicky91]

In an age where actors and singers seem to be the voice of the generation that is going to save us all... I don't see why he cannot say what he feels. I don't see why anybody should be silenced.

true, everyone has rights of a own opinion, no matter what views you got, in a democracy you should Always have that right of a freedom of speech

[The Slim Reaper]

true, everyone has rights of a own opinion, no matter what views you got, in a democracy you should Always have that right of a freedom of speech

He's had and used that right though, and no one has denied him his opinion.

[user104658]

In an age where actors and singers seem to be the voice of the generation that is going to save us all... I don't see why he cannot say what he feels. I don't see why anybody should be silenced.He hasn't been silenced and he can (and has) said what he feels. If execs, directors and showrunners no longer want to hire him based on things he's said... They also have the freedom to make that choice. That's how it works. People are free to say what they feel, but they do not have the ability (nor the right) to dictate how other people respond to their words. :shrug:

[MTVN]

He is unfortunate to be working in an industry where there is very little diversity of opinion

[Smithy]

He is unfortunate to be working in an industry where there is very little diversity of opinion

Yeah, must be so hard for his old racist ass :(

[Wizard.]

Glad Emilia kicked him off her couch for her mum!

[Liam-]

Right wingers love nothing more than using their national platforms to complain about being silenced

[arista]

Right wingers love nothing more than using their national platforms to complain about being silenced


So do Left wingers

[GiRTh]

Who is this tw*t? And what does he have to say that is so important? :shrug:

Its a shame that times like these give arseholes like him an opportunity to spout their bull*****

[Tom4784]

He is unfortunate to be working in an industry where there is very little diversity of opinion

The right wing just loves to lean on the victim narrative, huh? It's utterly repugnant considering how many liberal voices have been snuffed out throughout history for standing for equality. I can't tolerate some entitled actor who torpedo'd his own career when people are literally dying for their civil rights.

Opinions have consequences, If you're going to be a racist then you have to accept that other people have the right to react to that and that means they don't have to employ some washed up actor who will no doubt find a fortune in being a mouthpiece for the far right.

[Jigs]

White middle class tears </3

[Jigs]

He is unfortunate to be working in an industry where there is very little diversity of opinion

There is very little diversity of opinion ON THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC and it doesn't take a genius to know why. Show business and the creative industries are really diverse industries so it's not surprising that they tend to accommodate left-wing stance more. People don't tend to speak up against people they have first-hand experience working with. After all, anyone who speaks up against the BLM movement is essentially speaking up against black people. The only ones comfortable enough to have such strong opinions are people with too limited exposure to ethnic minorities to be able to see them as human beings.

[MTVN]

There is very little diversity of opinion ON THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC and it doesn't take a genius to know why. Show business and the creative industries are really diverse industries so it's not surprising that they tend to accommodate left-wing stance more. People don't tend to speak up against people they have first-hand experience working with. After all, anyone who speaks up against the BLM movement is essentially speaking up against black people. The only ones comfortable enough to have such strong opinions are people with too limited exposure to ethnic minorities to be able to see them as human beings.

I'm not sure about, the film industry is constantly criticised for its lack of diversity both in race and also in gender and class. Arts and entertainment ranks in the five least diverse industries here:
https://www.thementormethod.com/single-post/2018/06/25/5-Least-and-Most-Diverse-Industries. That's why Fox strikes a chord with people who are suspicious of actors making token gestures and telling them how to think when they enjoy huge wealth and comfort and work in a sector which is much more problematic than most blue collar industries

[arista]

Who is this tw*t? And what does he have to say that is so important? :shrug:

Its a shame that times like these give arseholes like him an opportunity to spout their bull*****


The Star of Lewis
and Actor/Musician.

[Jigs]

I'm not sure about, the film industry is constantly criticised for its lack of diversity both in race and also in gender and class. Arts and entertainment ranks in the five least diverse industries here:
https://www.thementormethod.com/single-post/2018/06/25/5-Least-and-Most-Diverse-Industries. That's why Fox strikes a chord with people who are suspicious of actors making token gestures and telling them how to think when they enjoy huge wealth and comfort and work in a sector which is much more problematic than most blue collar industries

Yeah, by no means at all do I think the arts and entertainment industry has come out smelling of roses on this issue, but I definitely feel as though there is far less wiggle-room in those industries to display hateful or derogatory behaviour towards someone for their race. As I said before, on this particular topic of the BLM movement I think we'll probably find the vast majority of people in the business are supportive of the movement and vocal about it as a result. Whether this is performative or self-serving we'll never TRULY know. However, all I'm saying is if Laurence Fox is gonna start getting precious over BLM because his poor white voice is being snubbed for once then he deserves to be reprimanded by his peers.

[MTVN]

Yeah, by no means at all do I think the arts and entertainment industry has come out smelling of roses on this issue, but I definitely feel as though there is far less wiggle-room in those industries to display hateful or derogatory behaviour towards someone for their race. As I said before, on this particular topic of the BLM movement I think we'll probably find the vast majority of people in the business are supportive of the movement and vocal about it as a result. Whether this is performative or self-serving we'll never TRULY know. However, all I'm saying is if Laurence Fox is gonna start getting precious over BLM because his poor white voice is being snubbed for once then he deserves to be reprimanded by his peers.

Fair enough, fwiw I do think he's been pretty crass and wilfully controversial on this so yeah he can't be too sensitive about the fallout

[arista]

[Laurence Fox reveals he was phoned by cabal of actors
who threatened his career on loudspeaker
as they told him to 'change his tune' over Black Lives Matter]

[Lewis star Laurence Fox said he received
a 'very threatening' phone call from
an actor he'd worked with,
telling him to change his position on the BLM movement
He previously said he would refuse to 'take the knee' to
show solidarity with BLM,
adding that the gesture conjures
up 'master-servant' connotations]
Fox said: 'I was warned several times that,
unless I changed my tune,
it would have an effect on my career']

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/10/03/01/33925668-8800491-image-m-32_1601686502595.jpg
[In an interview yesterday, Fox said he
received a 'very threatening' phone
call from a former colleague for his
refusal to change his position towards
the BLM movement]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8800491/Laurence-Fox-says-threatened-group-actors-change-tune-BLM.html

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjaLqz-XsAEvhPs?format=jpg&name=medium

[arista]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

more see-through corporate tokenism

[Liam-]

1312729287473192962

Definitely the latter.

Who gets mad because someone publicly denounces racism? He’s a certified clown

[arista]

Definitely the latter.

Who gets mad because someone publicly denounces racism? He’s a certified clown


He does not want Politics like that
while he shops.....................

[Liam-]

He does not want Politics like that
while he shops.....................

Denouncing racism isn’t political Arista, it’s the right thing to do.

The only people upset by the denouncing of racism, are racists

[arista]

Denouncing racism isn’t political Arista, it’s the right thing to do.

The only people upset by the denouncing of racism, are racists


But he views it as a Political stance.

[Liam-]

But he views it as a Political stance.

Then that shows him for the vapid, ignorant fool that he is

[GiRTh]

I thought this guys was against cancel culture.

How is promoting black history month promoting 'Racial segregation and discrimination'? He needs to explain that, but he wont be able to. or he could simply stop pulling stupid phrases out of his arse.

[Crimson Dynamo]

there is no point ignoring that this is a pathetic piece of corporate virtue signalling by a grocer. its PR masquerading as concern - it cheapens any efforts to combat rACISM

and the UK is the most accepting and diverse country in the world - we are not the USA

bandwaggoning

just awful

[Liam-]

I thought this guys was against cancel culture.

How is promoting black history month promoting 'Racial segregation and discrimination'? He needs to explain that, but he wont be able to. or he could simply stop pulling stupid phrases out of his arse.

Because white people are used to such privilege, that some of us decide it’s a bad thing when other races are treated as equal, for what it’s worth, I don’t even think he 100% believes what he says, I think he’s taking advantage of a certain demographic of hateful, bigoted flag wavers because his career has gone down the toilet quicker than last night Chinese, he’s a grifter, but he’s just as bad as the bigots by encouraging and thriving on it

[GiRTh]

Because white people are used to such privilege, that some of us decide it’s a bad thing when other races are treated as equal, for what it’s worth, I don’t even think he 100% believes what he says, I think he’s taking advantage of a certain demographic of hateful, bigoted flag wavers because his career has gone down the toilet quicker than last night Chinese, he’s a grifter, but he’s just as bad as the bigots by encouraging and thriving on itThis is gonna stick so he needs to decide if he's all in with this ideology. He wont be able to walk this back so his career is effectively over. No loss IMO.

His comment is extraordinarily ignorant and shows a clear misunderstand of the points he thinks he's trying to make. He needs to shut his stupid mouth no matter how much money he's making from it.

[Denver]

Didn't he call someone a pedophile because they were gay?

[Barry.]

Didn't he call someone a pedophile because they were gay?

He just called Crystal (RPDRuk) one on Twitter.

[Tom4784]

So not only is he a racist, he's calling gay people peadophiles for no reason? I hope he has a good time queuing up at the job centre.

[bots]

he seems like a tit to me

[Liam-]

So not only is he a racist, he's calling gay people peadophiles for no reason? I hope he has a good time queuing up at the job centre.

Never mind the job centre, he’ll need the number for a good lawyer

[Black Dagger]

Hes an embarrassing waste of sperm.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Why are so many be people triggered?

[Barry.]

Why are so many be people triggered?

He’s calling gay people pedos.

[Tom4784]

Why are so many be people triggered?

So you supports those who accuse LGBT people of being peadophiles, huh? I thought you were all law and order, I thought you were all 'Blue Lives Matter?' Why are you supporting an outrageous hate fuelled act of libel and harassment just because it's coming from someone you like? Seems hypocritical to me.

[arista]

Times Radio DAB
is debating Sainsbury and Fox.

[arista]

He’s calling gay people pedos.


No that was just one person.

[Crimson Dynamo]

He’s calling gay people pedos.

where did this happen?

[Nicky91]

https://twitter.com/LozzaFox/status/1312805848935170049

oh shut up turd :idc:

[Black Dagger]

where did this happen?

Its there in black and white in his tweets luv. You can pick and choose what you see

[Crimson Dynamo]

Its there in black and white in his tweets luv. You can pick and choose what you see

where?

[Nicky91]

https://twitter.com/LozzaFox/status/1312753915016949761

:laugh3: lol definitely katie hopkins vibes here in this elitist, way too privileged and smug twat


''proud of our country'' :laugh2: patriotism is soooo out of date, same as Lozza's career also got mold on it, how irrelevant he is as actor, singer (and he wouldn't have been famous if it wasn't for his daddy lol)

[Black Dagger]

where?

Why do you like to be so awkward?

[Black Dagger]

1313036623026757632

If you want to take it in your own context LT that's on you.

[arista]

Yes its one person.
A Fight between them

[user104658]

where did this happen?

I am a trusted source LT and it did happen. For context, I think he was going for "edgy nah-nah-ne-naaah-nah" territory with it; a drag race person had made a tweet saying he was being racist which he felt unjustified, and in some sort of misguided attempt to illustrate how "anyone can make accusations without proof" he said something like "hmph well this is coming from a paedophile". I don't think it was an actual accusation or him saying that all gay men are paedophiles, it was a ham-fisted attempt at a "revenge unfounded accusation"; i.e. "I will unfairly call you a paedo with no proof because I think YOU unfairly called ME racist".

Just ridiculous really, he's a smug-faced toddler, a complete irritant and if people would just ****ing ignore him he wouldn't be getting half the traction he is getting. When will people learn? Rising to the bait of a bargain basement Katie Hopkins and HANDING him a platform in the process :facepalm:

[Crimson Dynamo]

I am a trusted source LT and it did happen. For context, I think he was going for "edgy nah-nah-ne-naaah-nah" territory with it; a drag race person had made a tweet saying he was being racist which he felt unjustified, and in some sort of misguided attempt to illustrate how "anyone can make accusations without proof" he said something like "hmph well this is coming from a paedophile". I don't think it was an actual accusation or him saying that all gay men are paedophiles, it was a ham-fisted attempt at a "revenge unfounded accusation"; i.e. "I will unfairly call you a paedo with no proof because I think YOU unfairly called ME racist".



aah right that would make sense then so his haters have taken it out of context etc etc

this is why twitter can be so negative and damaging

[Nicky91]

basically just confirms Laurence Fox is a troll who loves attention and likes

yes he could be the next prime minister, given we already got someone similar as a world leader (Trump)

[user104658]

aah right that would make sense then so his haters have taken it out of context etc etc

this is why twitter can be so negative and damaging

He's deleted the tweets because people were telling him he was likely to get sued :hehe: but I did unearth a screen grab. It is legit, I saw it last night when it was actually on his page...

https://i.imgur.com/fZzX3pm.jpg

Still a monumentally dumb move and extremely immature let's face it, given the implications.

[Liam-]

He’s deleted them cause his ass fell out when his lawyer got on the blower and explained the financial repercussions of libel

[Niamh.]

He does seem very much like the male Katie Hopkins

[Liam-]

He does seem very much like the male Katie Hopkins

She went bankrupt having to pay out for libel as well :hehe:

[Crimson Dynamo]

6m8KInOorFE

here he discusses what has happened since his QT appearance..

[armand.kay]

Why are so many be people triggered?

ikr i can’t believe sainsbury’s acknowledging black history month would cause such a reaction :conf:

[Nicky91]

6m8KInOorFE

here he discusses what has happened since his QT appearance..

in other words feeding his own (already huge) ego

[Black Dagger]

aah right that would make sense then so his haters have taken it out of context etc etc

this is why twitter can be so negative and damaging

I dont know how you can take him calling people nonces out of context.

[Nicky91]

the types of a Laurence Fox, Tommy Robinson are perfect examples of what's wrong in Britain

the vile right wing are only anti-bbc since bbc knows like every other good person that britain is no longer an empire, no place for patriotism in this world anymore, in current times

but that is not what they want to hear so they begin with their pathetic attention seeking for likes with fake hashtags like defund the bbc

[user104658]

He does seem very much like the male Katie Hopkins

He (for whatever completely bizarre reason) wishes, he's like an amateur version of her trolling. Then again she had many years to perfect her craft... he's just setting out on this... erm... new career path :umm2:.

[user104658]

... ... ... ... ... ... I have to admit though I do have some questions about the implications of Sainsburies indicating that they're going to have racially-segregated staff rooms. I think they're saying it in a well-meaning way but I think it's an EXTREMELY slippery slope. Like "Oh no someone spilled a jar of melted goose fat all over it" slippery.

BUT if you can't raise the concern without looking like a racist dickhead you probably shouldn't be the one to raise it and unfortunately for Loz... well...