Meghan Markle = Princess Diana

[LukeB]

What racist abuse? Please elaborate.

She has been compared to a monkey, i said it regarding social media because the times has changed so not only are the press hounding/writing fake stories she now has social media abuse as well.

[jet]

Don't waste your shame on me, I'm not the middle aged man fixated on a Royal bride and tabloid magazines aimed at teenage girls.

The Daily Mail is for teenage girls, who knew? :omgno:

[Liam-]

What racist abuse? Please elaborate.

The royal family literally put a statement out condemning the racism she had been receiving, someone was arrested for threatening to kill Harry because he was a ‘race traitor’ for marrying a black woman, it’s easy to not realise it’s happening if you don’t want to see it happens

[LukeB]

The royal family literally put a statement out condemning the racism she had been receiving, someone was arrested for threatening to kill Harry because he was a ‘race traitor’ for marrying a black woman, it’s easy to not realise it’s happening if you don’t want to see it happens

this too

[Marsh.]

The royal family literally put a statement out condemning the racism she had been receiving, someone was arrested for threatening to kill Harry because he was a ‘race traitor’ for marrying a black woman, it’s easy to not realise it’s happening if you don’t want to see it happens

If they didn't see it, it didn't happen. Bizarre logic.

[jet]

If they didn't see it, it didn't happen. Bizarre logic.

Its the logic you've been applying all along about anything remotely negative about Meghan, but suddenly you know about this and have seen it. :laugh:

FYI, the Royal family didn't put out a statement about this, Harry did, entirely off his own bat.

[jet]

She has been compared to a monkey, i said it regarding social media because the times has changed so not only are the press hounding/writing fake stories she now has social media abuse as well.

One person made a comment about a monkey, said it was taken out of context and apologised, whatever, it was a ridiculous and awful comment but one person doesn't speak for thousands more.

Meghan wasn't/isn't being hounded, Diana was hounded.
Which stories do you regard as fake? Links please?

As for social media - why does anyone read that stuff? Abuse of anyone and everyone is the norm, not the exception. Meghan doesn't have a special pass.

[jet]

The irony when no one can explain why they feel they have the right to express such hatred behind their keyboards.

You asked me before why I took such an interest in another thread going back months ago and I answered but you ignored and didn't respond. I'll answer more briefly here because you'll probably do the same again.
I don't hate Meghan, but I dislike her actions and what I have learned of her character.
I have a great interest in the Royal family and Royal history going all the way back to Alfred the Great. I have a whole bookcase full of Royal histories and biographies. I belong to a Royal Forum where we discuss all members past and present. Queen Elizabeth the 1st is my favourite. Diana interested me greatly. Meghan and Harry's path interest me - their future history for a future generation of Royal history buffs is going to be interesting. :hee:

[Mystic Mock]

Hi Mock, you have alway been a very fair and nice poster - I like reading your posts.

If don’t read rags but if they blatantly make up stuff about Meghan that isn’t true, surely she would sue? Herself and Harry seem to have no scruples in that regard.
I suppose what the rags do is exaggerate certain things and put a negative spin on it, thats what sells isn’t it, people read it so…..but there will be kernels of truth in there too.
It happens to all prominent public figures - the royal family are particularly good at just ignoring because then it dies a death and its someone else’s turn.

So I really haven’t read anything awful about Meghan beyond what she has actually said and done, just fair assessments by Royal Correspondents and insiders about certain things which have happened which are now known to be accurate. Royal correspondents can’t risk spreading lies or they would no longer get insider info and their job would be gone.

The general consensus between insiders is that Meghan and Harry making a fuss about criticism was deliberate, (not that anyone wants criticism but they used it to their advantage)) - they knew that portraying themselves as victims would give them sympathy and an ‘out’ because they had no intention of staying in the UK - they planned to get to LA early on in their marriage. It was discovered that they were putting things in place way back when and the way they broke the news of their leaving the royal family was sneaky and underhand..
So yes, the media can be cruel, but celebs also need them and use them when it suits....a dysfunctional relationship! :hee:

Thanks for the compliment Jet, you're always a member who has opinions I like to read as well.:)

And maybe some of the stuff about Meghan is true I honestly don't know, but for me considering what's going on with Prince Andrew at the moment you'd think that the Media would be more interested in his business than Meghan's, but that's just how I see it personally.

[Marsh.]

Its the logic you've been applying all along about anything remotely negative about Meghan, but suddenly you know about this and have seen it. :laugh:

FYI, the Royal family didn't put out a statement about this, Harry did, entirely off his own bat.

If you call not blindly believing gossip with no foundation and hating a woman I don't know based on it logic, yes.

Harry's statement on what? Going off on another tangent?

[Marsh.]

Thanks for the compliment Jet, you're always a member who has opinions I like to read as well.:)

And maybe some of the stuff about Meghan is true I honestly don't know, but for me considering what's going on with Prince Andrew at the moment you'd think that the Media would be more interested in his business than Meghan's, but that's just how I see it personally.

Too right Mock. People don't want to acknowledge a white male abuser, but if Meghan is there breathing they're seething with venom.

[jet]

what is all this about, what press reports? .. all I have seen is that she felt unsupported during her pregnancy? how is that the press hounding them :suspect:

Yes Cherie, she is hardly mentioned now but the coming court case about her fathers letter in which she complains about press coverage will be of interest to them for sure:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/palace-press-team-couldnt-defend-meghan-against-true-stories-vr7ptvf7n

Palace press team ‘couldn’t defend Meghan against true stories’

The Duchess of Sussex felt that she was unprotected by the royal “institution” because she could not do anything about the stream of stories about her deteriorating relationship with her staff, The Times has learnt.
Meghan’s lawyers have said in legal papers filed at the High Court that her mental health was damaged by negative coverage while she was pregnant.

A source has confirmed that this refers to the palace machinery, rather than members of the family: above all, in other words, her former media team. “No one thinks this is going to end well,” a source said. “For anyone.”

Other passages in the documents — a response from her lawyers to questions raised by The Mail on Sunday, which Meghan is suing for breach of privacy — spell out her unhappiness with the Kensington Palace communications team and their policy of not commenting on press reports.

Her anger grew over two strands of stories dominating the news agenda about her: her relations with staff, especially the number who had quit, and the criticism of her by her family, especially Samantha Grant, her half-sister.

One story that made the duchess particularly dissatisfied was the resignation of her PA, Melissa Toubati, who quit six months after the royal wedding in 2018. There were reports that she had been reduced to tears by Meghan’s demands.

However, the communications team found it hard to deny the reports because they were largely true. “The stories were a drop in the ocean compared to what was going on,” another source said. Meghan, 38, also wanted something done about the sniping from Ms Grant, who among other things called her sister “a shallow social climber”. Kensington Palace was never going to get involved over one woman voicing her opinions from Florida......

[Marsh.]

Yes Cherie, didn't you know a source said. A SOURCE!!! Can you believe it? A source!

Yes, Cherie, a source.

[jet]

Yes Cherie, didn't you know a source said. A SOURCE!!! Can you believe it? A source!

Yes, Cherie, a source.

The Judge at the first hearing has already thrown her allegations of bad press treatment out. I know you have trouble with comprehension Marsh, so here is an excerpt from an article I already posted on this very thread:

Mr Justice Warby has also 'struck out' her allegations that journalists had acted dishonestly and had caused the rift between her and her estranged father Thomas by ‘digging up dirt’ to portray Meghan in a 'negative light'.

[jet]

Meghan Markle's claim she was unprotected RUBBISHED by senior royals as 'ridiculous'

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1305391/meghan-markle-news-court-case-duchess-of-sussex-unprotected-royal-news

MEGHAN MARKLE's claim she felt "unprotected by the institution" has been fiercely denied by senior royal sources as "fiction".
By ALICE SCARSI

Royal sources lashed out at the new claims made by the legal team of Meghan in documents filed on June 30 as part of her court case against the Mail on Sunday. These legal documents, filed following a request of the defendant in the court case, made the astonishing claim Meghan was not allowed to defend herself while at the same time she was not protected from reports published in the press.

Sources branded these allegations "ridiculous" and "galling".
One told The Sunday Times: "It's a ridiculous claim. "It's so bloody disappointing.
"The institution was doing everything in its power to support her. "Everyone was trying to help her."
Another source told the Sunday paper: "It's fiction and galling."
And a third said: "It's completely inaccurate and total rubbish".

This insider went on saying aides "rebutted every unfounded story they possibly could within reason" and "stretched their relationship with the media to breaking point".
etc……….

[Toy Soldier]

Meghan Markle's claim she was unprotected RUBBISHED by senior royals as 'ridiculous'

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1305391/meghan-markle-news-court-case-duchess-of-sussex-unprotected-royal-news

"Megan's claim that senior royals are arseholes is NONSENSE, according to 90% of senior royals polled."

[Glenn.]

Meghan Markle's claim she was unprotected RUBBISHED by senior royals as 'ridiculous'

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1305391/meghan-markle-news-court-case-duchess-of-sussex-unprotected-royal-news

Are these the type of ‘royal correspondent’ stories you’re referring to when you say you only read from royal correspondents?

[Ammi]

...I guess the clue is in the title...Royal corespondents will always lean in bias toward the blood royal family...rather than those who have married into the family...and so it has always been written....

[rusticgal]

If they didn't see it, it didn't happen. Bizarre logic.

If i didnt see it then I dont KNOW it happened...its your logic that is bizarre. Im asking the question because I'm interested to know. I do recall the 'monkey' picture which was disturbing but other than that Im unaware as apart from TIBB and Facebook I dont do any other social media.

[Niamh.]

"Megan's claim that senior royals are arseholes is NONSENSE, according to 90% of senior royals polled."

Look how they protect Prince Andrew though

[Toy Soldier]

Look how they protect Prince Andrew though

"The claim that Prince Andrew went to the US and slept with young trafficking victims is NONSENSE, according to 100% of Prince Andrews polled."

[Toy Soldier]

...I guess the clue is in the title...Royal corespondents will always lean in bias toward the blood royal family...rather than those who have married into the family...and so it has always been written....

Royal Correspondents have an innate bias because - at the extreme end of things - if the Royal Fam goes belly up they're out of a job. At the less extreme end, I'm pretty sure the Royals could pull strings to have them replaced if they push anything too hard in the "wrong" direction.

[Ammi]

Royal Correspondents have an innate bias because - at the extreme end of things - if the Royal Fam goes belly up they're out of a job. At the less extreme end, I'm pretty sure the Royals could pull strings to have them replaced if they push anything too hard in the "wrong" direction.

...they’re also fairly annoyed that their huge cash cow, Meghan has decided she’s just not having it and gone off to a brighter world with her Harry and Archie...

[jet]

Are these the type of ‘royal correspondent’ stories you’re referring to when you say you only read from royal correspondents?

In a word, no.

[Glenn.]

Why are you posting sensationalised tabloid crap then?

[rusticgal]

If someone wants to start a thread up about Andrew they can...

Little point imo because he has shown us all what a liar he is and I think everybody knows his guilt. Andrew got slaughtered in the press before and after his 'interview'. He didnt take the papers to court and whinge about not being 'protected'.
Then we have his ex-wife Sarah Ferguson...harmless but her behaviour was embarassing at times. She got slaughtered by the press too for her weight/dress sense and general behaviour....but she didnt go seeking damages...she didnt call out the Royal family for not protecting her. She took it on the chin..she lost weight got divorced and was snubbed at family gatherings despite being the mother of the Queens grandchildren...
...and poor Meghan thinks shes been poorly treated...:laugh:

[Glenn.]

But Andrew completely deserves to be slaughtered by the press...

[rusticgal]

But Andrew completely deserves to be slaughtered by the police...


Has anyone said he shouldnt :shrug:.....

[rusticgal]

But Andrew completely deserves to be slaughtered by the press...


...and what about Sarah Ferguson? Do you think she deserved it too in the early days of her marriage regarding her weight and dress sense?

[jet]

Why are you posting sensationalised tabloid crap then?

How do you know it is crap? As you seem to believe it is, post something that refutes it - or would that be sensationalised crap too?

FYI Royal correspondents have been saying similar in TV interviews.

[Glenn.]

How do you know it is crap? As you seem to believe it is, post something that refutes it - or would that be sensationalised crap too?

FYI Royal correspondents have been saying similar in TV interviews.

The thing is, you don’t know that it’s true but will blindly believe it is which is kind of the issue people have with the press no?

[Glenn.]

...and what about Sarah Ferguson? Do you think she deserved it too in the early days of her marriage regarding her weight and dress sense?

Common sense would tell you that no, she did not deserve that.

[jet]

If someone wants to start a thread up about Andrew they can...

Little point imo because he has shown us all what a liar he is and I think everybody knows his guilt. Andrew got slaughtered in the press before and after his 'interview'. He didnt take the papers to court and whinge about not being 'protected'.
Then we have his ex-wife Sarah Ferguson...harmless but her behaviour was embarassing at times. She got slaughtered by the press too for her weight/dress sense and general behaviour....but she didnt go seeking damages...she didnt call out the Royal family for not protecting her. She took it on the chin..she lost weight got divorced and was snubbed at family gatherings despite being the mother of the Queens grandchildren...
...and poor Meghan thinks shes been poorly treated...:laugh:

She loves being seen as the poor me victim and the gullible fall for it without looking any deeper....anything slightly negative is automatically 'crap'....instead of posting counter arguments to attempt to refute their 'crap' claims. I guess its because they can't....so they attack the poster instead.

It's just like those awful social media sites they proclaim they hate in here now..'serious debates' indeed...

[Marsh.]

The Judge at the first hearing has already thrown her allegations of bad press treatment out. I know you have trouble with comprehension Marsh, so here is an excerpt from an article I already posted on this very thread:

Oh I'm aware of articles you post on this thread. They're all from the same place.

But here you're arguing a point nobody made.

My post simply stated you claimed she hadn't filed any lawsuits, she's filed several. You lied. It's that simple.

[Marsh.]

If i didnt see it then I dont KNOW it happened...its your logic that is bizarre. Im asking the question because I'm interested to know. I do recall the 'monkey' picture which was disturbing but other than that Im unaware as apart from TIBB and Facebook I dont do any other social media.

I haven't discussed social media or monkey pictures.

Try to keep track of what you're discussing and with which poster. :thumbs:

[jet]

The thing is, you don’t know that it’s true but will blindly believe it is which is kind of the issue people have with the press no?

I don't blindly believe anything, I listen to all sides and form my conclusions and my own opinions.

It's you that blindly believes everything that not glowing is not true, and you don't post anything to refute any claims? Why not?
I guess the Judge that threw out her allegations of mistreatment by the press is a blind hater too?

[Cherie]

If someone wants to start a thread up about Andrew they can...

Little point imo because he has shown us all what a liar he is and I think everybody knows his guilt. Andrew got slaughtered in the press before and after his 'interview'. He didnt take the papers to court and whinge about not being 'protected'.
Then we have his ex-wife Sarah Ferguson...harmless but her behaviour was embarassing at times. She got slaughtered by the press too for her weight/dress sense and general behaviour....but she didnt go seeking damages...she didnt call out the Royal family for not protecting her. She took it on the chin..she lost weight got divorced and was snubbed at family gatherings despite being the mother of the Queens grandchildren...
...and poor Meghan thinks shes been poorly treated...:laugh:

I did, it crashed and burned because no one could shout racist :laugh:

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=362775&highlight=andrew+interview

[Ammi]

...it’s essentially just the ‘airing of family linen’ in public...which is fine for anything that is of public interest but most about Meghan isn’t...on top of the completely different and contrasting styles of reporting for her and Kate...one being supportive and the other being hostile has been a common vein...but regardless of what element of truth or fabrication in any report...whatever Meghan’s actions have been...?...how she has been treated by the tabloids and some public is far worse...it’s en masse bullying...

[jet]

Oh I'm aware of articles you post on this thread. They're all from the same place.

But here you're arguing a point nobody made.

My post simply stated you claimed she hadn't filed any lawsuits, she's filed several. You lied. It's that simple.

There is only one lawsuit that I know of, anything I posted is all from the same lawsuit.
Still waiting for you to post of the others you claim to know about.

[Toy Soldier]

...to be fair and level with this...attacking/baiting the poster is equal on either side of this, there is no higher ground there over anyone else..and any actual debate is impossible because of the endless nonsense every thread turns into ...

Listen, Ammi, I don’t want to overstep my bounds or anything. It’s your house. It’s your world. You’re a real Julius Caesar, but I’ll tell you some... tell you h-how I feel about the SD forum, Ammi. It’s a waste of time. A bunch of people running around, bumping into each other. G-guy up front says, “Megan Markle.” The people in the back say, “awful.” Then the bell rings, and they give you a carton of milk and a piece of paper that says you can take a dump or something. I mean, it’s—it’s not a place for smart people, Ammi, and I know that’s not a popular opinion, but it’s my two cents on the issue.

[Cherie]

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=331336&highlight=harry+marry&page=6

for those who were in at the beginning :fan:

[Nicky91]

Listen, Ammi, I don’t want to overstep my bounds or anything. It’s your house. It’s your world. You’re a real Julius Caesar, but I’ll tell you some... tell you h-how I feel about the SD forum, Ammi. It’s a waste of time. A bunch of people running around, bumping into each other. G-guy up front says, “Megan Markle.” The people in the back say, “awful.” Then the bell rings, and they give you a carton of milk and a piece of paper that says you can take a dump or something. I mean, it’s—it’s not a place for smart people, Ammi, and I know that’s not a popular opinion, but it’s my two cents on the issue.

true, i also cannot really believe Meghan is that awful to be honest

also Harry just chose for himself, who he wanted to marry

same as how Charles also chose for himself, since Diana was not his true love, but Camilla has Always been that (even before Diana if i can remember correctly that Charles/Camilla were childhood friends :think: )

[Glenn.]

Harry was hoodwinked Nicky!

[Ammi]

Listen, Ammi, I don’t want to overstep my bounds or anything. It’s your house. It’s your world. You’re a real Julius Caesar, but I’ll tell you some... tell you h-how I feel about the SD forum, Ammi. It’s a waste of time. A bunch of people running around, bumping into each other. G-guy up front says, “Megan Markle.” The people in the back say, “awful.” Then the bell rings, and they give you a carton of milk and a piece of paper that says you can take a dump or something. I mean, it’s—it’s not a place for smart people, Ammi, and I know that’s not a popular opinion, but it’s my two cents on the issue.

... What the holy heck did you just goddamn say about me, you little large but not fat soldier...?... I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals....and I’ve been involved in secret raids on Al-Quaeda...and I have over 300 confirmed kills... I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire UK ..(..but excluding Scotland...)...armed forces....You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my words....You think you can get away with saying nonsence to me over the Internet..? ...Think again, soldier... As we speak I am contacting my network of spies across the globe and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot... The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re goddamn dead, kid...I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands...Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the SAS and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your ass off the face of this forum and the continent, you little large but not fat soldier... If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your tongue... You didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will unleash hell all over you and you will drown in it. You’re goddamn dead, kiddo...

[Nicky91]

Harry was hoodwinked Nicky!

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1290503/Kate-Middleton-latest-relationship-Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-royal-charity-Invictus-Games

Middleton Hag misses Harry :skull:


at least Meghan isn't a royal family arse kisser compared to Kate M

[Mystic Mock]

Too right Mock. People don't want to acknowledge a white male abuser, but if Meghan is there breathing they're seething with venom.

I know that Andrew hasn't been convicted tbf, but it's just odd to me that the Media doesn't want to report on his case, it's almost like they're using Meghan to cover up for Andrew's actions.

[Marsh.]

"The claim that Prince Andrew went to the US and slept with young trafficking victims is NONSENSE, according to 100% of Prince Andrews polled."

:joker:

[Marsh.]

There is only one lawsuit that I know of, anything I posted is all from the same lawsuit.
Still waiting for you to post of the others you claim to know about.

I never made any comment on the status of any lawsuit only that there are lawsuits, when you claimed there were none.

Rustic claimed they are only regarding her father's letter. They're not.

Again, I'm not here to do your research for you when you love telling us how well versed you are on all the facts.

Go beyond the Daily Mail and you will see.

[rusticgal]

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1290503/Kate-Middleton-latest-relationship-Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-royal-charity-Invictus-Games

Middleton Hag misses Harry :skull:


at least Meghan isn't a royal family arse kisser compared to Kate M


So you have #bekind in your posts then you call Kate a Hag and an arselicker.
Nice....

[rusticgal]

I never made any comment on the status of any lawsuit only that there are lawsuits, when you claimed there were none.

Rustic claimed they are only regarding her father's letter. They're not.




Do you know what they are then?

[jet]

I never made any comment on the status of any lawsuit only that there are lawsuits, when you claimed there were none.

Rustic claimed they are only regarding her father's letter. They're not.

Again, I'm not here to do your research for you when you love telling us how well versed you are on all the facts.

Go beyond the Daily Mail and you will see.

I was I who who said there was only one that I knew of - the one about her fathers letter which also covers 'her treatment by the press'. You then said there were others. It's all here in black and white. :laugh:
Still waiting for the info on the 'several others' you claim to know about.

[jet]

I know that Andrew hasn't been convicted tbf, but it's just odd to me that the Media doesn't want to report on his case, it's almost like they're using Meghan to cover up for Andrew's actions.

Prince Andrew was all over the papers after his disastrous tv interview. He was slaughtered. Since then, he has been rightly ‘sacked’ by the Queen from representing her in any way, so he hasn’t been out there and there is nothing to report. He definitely needs to be investigated and questioned by the FBI to ascertain exactly what part he played in the scandal.

If and when that happens, or if something else comes out, it will be all over the papers again, without doubt!

I don’t think they are ‘using’ Meghan to cover up for Andrew, Mock. She hasn’t been in the press recently at all as far as I am aware except for the updates about the court case which SHE brought. Of course the media are going to report on that, why wouldn’t they?

[jet]

If someone wants to start a thread up about Andrew they can...

Little point imo because he has shown us all what a liar he is and I think everybody knows his guilt. Andrew got slaughtered in the press before and after his 'interview'. He didnt take the papers to court and whinge about not being 'protected'.
Then we have his ex-wife Sarah Ferguson...harmless but her behaviour was embarassing at times. She got slaughtered by the press too for her weight/dress sense and general behaviour....but she didnt go seeking damages...she didnt call out the Royal family for not protecting her. She took it on the chin..she lost weight got divorced and was snubbed at family gatherings despite being the mother of the Queens grandchildren...
...and poor Meghan thinks shes been poorly treated...:laugh:

Well said.:clap1:

[Nicky91]

So you have #bekind in your posts then you call Kate a Hag and an arselicker.
Nice....

i'm just not a fan of the Middletons

[rusticgal]

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=331336&highlight=harry+marry&page=6

for those who were in at the beginning :fan:



That was fun reading....don’t remember much about it. Don’t think I was on the forum much then.

[Ammi]

...just a nice, positive Meghan and Harry story as representatives of the Queen’s Commonwealth Trust tackling racism and equality...it’s quite a long read and a 20 minute video discussion if anyone is interested, I’ll leave it here...




‘Prince Harry and Meghan Markle have said people will feel “uncomfortable” as racism and unconscious bias is challenged across the Commonwealth in the wake of the Black Lives Matter movement.

The royal couple joined representatives from the Queen’s Commonwealth Trust (QCT), which they are still president and vice president of, despite stepping back as senior royals, to discuss justice and equal rights.

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have been having conversations with community leaders throughout the US in the wake of the death of George Floyd, which has sparked renewed calls and pressure for equality around the world.

On Wednesday, they spoke to some young leaders in the QCT network, in one of the trust’s weekly discussions.

The group talked about Floyd’s death as a turning point, discussing how people can be allies in the quest for greater equality.

Meghan said: “We’re going to have to be a little uncomfortable right now, because it’s only in pushing through that discomfort that we get to the other side of this and find the place where a high tide raises all ships.

“Equality does not put anyone on the back foot, it puts us all on the same footing – which is a fundamental human right.”...

...the rest of the report plus the video...


https://uk.yahoo.com/style/prince-harry-meghan-people-will-be-uncomfortable-racism-commonwealth-120128782.html

[Marsh.]

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=331336&highlight=harry+marry&page=6

for those who were in at the beginning :fan:

God, I loved this thread. :love:

[Cherie]

That was fun reading....don’t remember much about it. Don’t think I was on the forum much then.

No you weren't it's lovely to see you become more of a regular, I think Jet was on a break as well :hee:

[Cherie]

God, I loved this thread. :love:

:joker:

[rusticgal]

No you weren't it's lovely to see you become more of a regular, I think Jet was on a break as well :hee:


I only came on here mainly for BB and CBB...furlough has given me more time to chat. It’s certainly opened up my eyes more to what goes on in here :laugh:

[jet]

No you weren't it's lovely to see you become more of a regular, I think Jet was on a break as well :hee:

That’s right Cherie, I was.
What a nice time that was for the Royal family and the country amid all the doom and gloom. A beautiful mixed race woman marrying into the Royal family and at last they were going to be representative of our more multi racial society. Harry had found someone at last, a more mature lady who seemed willing and more than able to take it all on and make him happy.
I remember our whole family and the next door neighbours all sitting down together to watch the wedding. The little girl next door brought in fairy cakes she baked (with help from Mum) with little Union Jacks flags on. Us lads with our six packs of Heineken and the ladies back and forth to the kitchen with their array of cocktails. Lovely…..

Then it all went pear shaped. Turned out she wasn’t Duchess material, couldn’t take the criticism that Diana, Fergie and Kate had put up with (even though Harry himself said he had warned her over and over that she would get it), didn’t give it a fair go, wanted things all her own way, blamed everyone but herself and bolted back to celeb land as soon as she could. What a disappointment she turned out to be.

Interesting to see how many people on that thread you linked were rooting for her then and aren't any more....:hee:

[Glenn.]

Then it all went pear shaped. Turned out she wasn’t Duchess material, couldn’t take the criticism that Diana, Fergie and Kate had put up with (even though Harry himself said he had warned her over and over that she would get it), didn’t give it a fair go, wanted things all her own way, blamed everyone but herself and bolted back to celeb land as soon as she could. What a disappointment she turned out to be.

Interesting to see how many people on that thread you linked were rooting for her then and aren't any more....:hee:

I keep forgetting you know her personally and know all of this.

[jet]

I keep forgetting you know her personally and know all of this.

It's called an opinion. Give your own opinion to counter mine if you wish, the thread isn't about me.

[Glenn.]

It's called an opinion. Give your own opinion to counter mine if you wish, the thread isn't about me.

I think you’ll find it’s an assumption not an opinion you have.

[jet]

I think you’ll find it’s an assumption not an opinion you have.

It's only an assumption if someone doesn't like your opinion...interesting that you have no counter argument though...and never have....

[Glenn.]

It's only an assumption if someone doesn't like your opinion...interesting that you have no counter argument though...and never have....

It’s an assumption because you don’t know her and only know her through the tabloids you read to form your assumptions about her.

[jet]

It’s an assumption because you don’t know her and only know her through the tabloids you read to form your assumptions about her.

You don't know her either sunshine. You never have an actual opinion, you just give the impression you think she's an angel who can do no wrong and that gives you the right to insult other posters.

[Glenn.]

You don't know her either sunshine. You never have an actual opinion, you just give the impression you think she's an angel who can do no wrong and that gives you the right to insult other posters.

And you givethe impression she’s the devil who can do nothing but wrong so what gives you the right to insult other posters ?

[jet]

I do really worry about Harry. I just can’t see him settling in LA and being happy there. I think he did it to please Meghan because it was what she wanted, as he has said ‘what Meghan wants, Meghan gets’. I fear he is on a path of self destruction - I hope I’m wrong.
He has left everything he has ever known - his family, his friends, his charities, a life where everything was laid on for him. He isn’t on good terms with William anymore, when pre - Meghan they were so close.

He was a troubled, headstrong teenager who transformed into a respected soldier and campaigner for wounded veterans. He was a charming, smiley guy who was adored by the public.
I remember Diana saying that Harry wasn't the 'spare', he was going to be the 'second in command'.
All that is gone now. Whenever he appears he looks so serious and sullen and often angry, he has lost weight and looks drawn.

He and Meghan have signed up to a speech giving agency which promises fees of a million a speech. What is he going to talk about? How many times can he talk about how the death of his mother affected him - will that be seen as cashing in on her death? Will he talk about mental health? He’s not an expert and he’s not that bright. The speeches will soon dry up.

What will he do then? How long before the pair of them fade into obscurity among the ‘me me me’ egos of the LA rich and famous?
This idea that he and Meghan and Archie have escaped to have a wonderful life in LA is a fantasy imo. Meghan got what she wanted - but is it really what Harry wanted? I hope it works out - for his sake.

[jet]

And you givethe impression she’s the devil who can do nothing but wrong so what gives you the right to insult other posters ?

Stop being a drama queen. :laugh:

[Glenn.]

Stop being a drama queen. :laugh:

Right back at you

[Mystic Mock]

Prince Andrew was all over the papers after his disastrous tv interview. He was slaughtered. Since then, he has been rightly ‘sacked’ by the Queen from representing her in any way, so he hasn’t been out there and there is nothing to report. He definitely needs to be investigated and questioned by the FBI to ascertain exactly what part he played in the scandal.

If and when that happens, or if something else comes out, it will be all over the papers again, without doubt!

I don’t think they are ‘using’ Meghan to cover up for Andrew, Mock. She hasn’t been in the press recently at all as far as I am aware except for the updates about the court case which SHE brought. Of course the media are going to report on that, why wouldn’t they?

I get what you're saying, it's just to me the Media does come across as more obsessed with Meghan, Harry, and Kate's behaviour than they are Andrew's.

[rusticgal]

It’s an assumption because you don’t know her and only know her through the tabloids you read to form your assumptions about her.

But you dont know her either...you make your assumptions on what you read. Its your opinion based on those facts...and mine is mine. Its called debate..

[Cherie]

I only came on here mainly for BB and CBB...furlough has given me more time to chat. It’s certainly opened up my eyes more to what goes on in here :laugh:

Mad house :joker:

[rusticgal]

I do really worry about Harry. I just can’t see him settling in LA and being happy there. I think he did it to please Meghan because it was what she wanted, as he has said ‘what Meghan wants, Meghan gets’. I fear he is on a path of self destruction - I hope I’m wrong.
He has left everything he has ever known - his family, his friends, his charities, a life where everything was laid on for him. He isn’t on good terms with William anymore, when pre - Meghan they were so close.

He was a troubled, headstrong teenager who transformed into a respected soldier and campaigner for wounded veterans. He was a charming, smiley guy who was adored by the public.
I remember Diana saying that Harry wasn't the 'spare', he was going to be the 'second in command'.
All that is gone now. Whenever he appears he looks so serious and sullen and often angry, he has lost weight and looks drawn.

He and Meghan have signed up to a speech giving agency which promises fees of a million a speech. What is he going to talk about? How many times can he talk about how the death of his mother affected him - will that be seen as cashing in on her death? Will he talk about mental health? He’s not an expert and he’s not that bright. The speeches will soon dry up.

What will he do then? How long before the pair of them fade into obscurity among the ‘me me me’ egos of the LA rich and famous?
This idea that he and Meghan and Archie have escaped to have a wonderful life in LA is a fantasy imo. Meghan got what she wanted - but is it really what Harry wanted? I hope it works out - for his sake.


Good post. I too was pleased for Harry and Meghan seemed a together young woman, attractive and independent....and I’m with you on how it turned around.
I would like Harry to be happy....but I can’t see him being happy surrounded by the rich and famous in LA....he always came across more humble and not one to be impressed with all that fakeness and who knows who drama. He may prove me wrong but I really see him regretting making that move...and I can’t see Meghan ever moving back here.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I get what you're saying, it's just to me the Media does come across as more obsessed with Meghan, Harry, and Kate's behaviour than they are Andrew's.

All the media do is reflect the interest of the public

Nothing more

[The Slim Reaper]

All the media do is reflect the interest of the public

Nothing more

This is not true.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It's n inconvenient truth, hard to accept i understand but true

[The Slim Reaper]

Even Goebbels understood the power of the media nearly a century ago.

[Ammi]

...the media convinces it’s readers that their opinions and judgements are their own as well and not influenced...:laugh:..

[Toy Soldier]

I do really worry about Harry. I just can’t see him settling in LA and being happy there. I think he did it to please Meghan because it was what she wanted.

Fffffff luckily he's a big boy who can make decisions about his own life without the input of laypeople who think they know him personally.

[The Slim Reaper]

...the media convinces it’s readers that their opinions and judgements are their own as well and not influenced...:laugh:..

It's no coincidence that brexit was preceded by years of scaremongering in rw rags.

[Toy Soldier]

All the media do is reflect the interest of the public

Nothing more

It' no coincidence that brexit was preceded by years of scaremongering in rw rags.

Indeed. Trumpets statement above would be more true IF we had a free, broad, independent press without vested interests. Unfortunately that's not what we have, we have a small collection of junk tabloids largely controlled by a small group of people who have clear conflicts of interest when it comes to guiding and nudging public opinion in certain directions.

[Ammi]

It's no coincidence that brexit was preceded by years of scaremongering in rw rags.

...yeah in terms of any large political decision of a country, the media doesn’t reflect public opinion, it shapes it...public opinion is so often undecided, much more than we realise ..and it’s then moulded by the media...

[Ammi]

...well the tabloids, I would say...

[Ammi]

Indeed. Trumpets statement above would be more true IF we had a free, broad, independent press without vested interests. Unfortunately that's not what we have, we have a small collection of junk tabloids largely controlled by a small group of people who have clear conflicts of interest when it comes to guiding and nudging public opinion in certain directions.

...or what he said, actually...

[Marsh.]

But you dont know her either...you make your assumptions on what you read. Its your opinion based on those facts...and mine is mine. Its called debate..

Except he's not made any assumptions about a woman he doesn't know, funnily enough.

[Marsh.]

I do really worry about Harry.

:joker::joker:

[rusticgal]

Except he's not made any assumptions about a woman he doesn't know, funnily enough.


Well he is because he is defending her...

[The Slim Reaper]

Well he is because he is defending her...

Doesn't everyone we don't know deserve the benefit of the doubt, unless there is evidence they're a wrong'un?

[jet]

Fffffff luckily he's a big boy who can make decisions about his own life without the input of laypeople who think they know him personally.

I didn’t realize he would be hanging around here reading my input….oops.
Are you actually telling me I’m wrong to express my opinion on a debate forum where expressing opinions is a large part of its purpose? Are you going to do the same to everyone who has an opinion on a public figure they don’t know personally or is it just me?

[Glenn.]

Well he is because he is defending her...

All I’ve defended her against is crazy, unfounded assumptions on her character and what people think she is thinking...

[Toy Soldier]

I didn’t realize he would be hanging around here reading my input….oops.

Are you actually telling me I’m wrong to express my opinion on a debate forum where expressing opinions is a large part of its purpose? Are you going to do the same to everyone who has an opinion on a public figure they don’t know personally or is it just me?You weren't just expressing an opinion on the rights/wrongs of his specific actions or something he's said though, you were suggesting that you have a better idea about where he should settle and what would make him happy. That would be a huge leap even if it was about one of your own friends or family members... Suggesting that you have a better idea of what would make a complete stranger happier or more fulfilled than they do themself is really out there. But that's just MY opinion.

[AnnieK]

Let's face it, none of us know the state of any relationship that we are not involved in. All I see is a very tactile couple with a young child who seem to ber very much in love with each other. Wherever they live and whatever they do is up to them now, they have severed the ties of Royal Life and whatever Harry's father decides to pay for them is his business really. I personally don't follow them or any of the Royals in depth, Royal Correspondents only have the monarchy's interests at heart pretty much and the tabloids journos would sell their parents for a scoop. With all the rest of the awful goings on in the world, Harry and Meghan fall low on the list of things I would be getting invested in

[Glenn.]

You weren't just expressing an opinion on the rights/wrongs of his specific actions or something he's said though, you were suggesting that you have a better idea about where he should settle and what would make him happy. That would be a huge leap even if it was about one of your own friends or family members... Suggesting that you have a better idea of what would make a complete stranger happier or more fulfilled than they do themself is really out there. But that's just MY opinion.

:clap1::clap1::clap1::clap1:

[rusticgal]

Doesn't everyone we don't know deserve the benefit of the doubt, unless there is evidence they're a wrong'un?


Of course they do....but we are equally entitled to make our judgement on what we believe. It works both ways and that was my point.

[The Slim Reaper]

Of course they do....but we are equally entitled to make our judgement on what we believe. It works both ways and that was my point.

Belief is actually the worst way to arrive at a position, because of our inherent wishes and biases, but of course you're entitled to it.

[rusticgal]

All I’ve defended her against is crazy, unfounded assumptions on her character and what people think she is thinking...


Yes and you assume she is perfect and done nothing wrong...well some people disagree because of what they have read and heard.
I mean there is so much to see....the fall out with William and Harry since being with her...the not wanting to tow the line with Royal protocol...the fall out with her family justified by only her mother being at the wedding. I mean she isnt completely innocent is she...

[rusticgal]

Belief is actually the worst way to arrive at a position, because of our inherent wishes and biases, but of course you're entitled to it.

I will re word it then....we are entitled to make our judgement on what we read/hear and see.

[Liam-]

‘The fallout between Harry and William’
Two brothers arguing, they’re royals, not aliens, it happens

‘Not towing Royal lines’
Harry has never towed royal lines

Her mother was the only one at the wedding, her father had a heart attack and couldn’t fly and her sister seems like a trouble maker, it’s their decision who comes to their wedding.

The twisting that’s involved to make her out to be a bad person is astounding

[Glenn.]

Yes and you assume she is perfect and done nothing wrong...well some people disagree because of what they have read and heard.
I mean there is so much to see....the fall out with William and Harry since being with her...the not wanting to tow the line with Royal protocol...the fall out with her family justified by only her mother being at the wedding. I mean she isnt completely innocent is she...

‘Because of what they have read and heard’

:facepalm:

[rusticgal]

‘Because of what they have read and heard’

:facepalm:



From reliable sources....do you go through life not watching the news or reading papers and reports. Have you never ever based comments on here based on what you have read/googled?...because you will be lying.

[Toy Soldier]

From reliable sources....do you go through life not watching the news or reading papers and reports. Have you never ever based comments on here based on what you have read/googled?...because you will be lying.As a serious question... What negative things exactly have you seen/read about Megan Markle (or her and Harry's relationship) that wasn't in either a tabloid or a gossip magazine?

[rusticgal]

As a serious question... What negative things exactly have you seen/read about Megan Markle (or her and Harry's relationship) that wasn't in either a tabloid or a gossip magazine?


Documentaries...news reports. I don’t read newspapers and magazines.

[Amy Jade]

Yes and you assume she is perfect and done nothing wrong...well some people disagree because of what they have read and heard.


'The sun said Meghan spat at her dad'
'The daily fail said meghan locks harry in a cage at night'
'moon faced dan wootton said Meghan started covid'

and people such as yourself eat it up like a cake. it's so sad.

[DouglasS]

'The sun said Meghan spat at her dad'
'The daily fail said meghan locks harry in a cage at night'
'moon faced dan wootton said Meghan started covid'

and people such as yourself eat it up like a cake. it's so sad.

Everyone bases their opinions based on media / how they come across. You have done it, we all do it. Whether it be social media, whether it be The news or stories. Just because you don’t agree with some things doesn’t mean others don’t. It’s not eating stuff up like a cake. It’s the same with even big brother we only see edited highlights, it’s not 24/7, yet we all make our judgements and opinions despite it being edited and probably not portraying everything exactly. You still dislike housemates as do others without knowing them :shrug:

The fact there is so much drama around Meghan and her relations with her family and friends has shown she is involved In drama

[Crimson Dynamo]

did you see the patronising video from their 20 million quid mansion\?

what an odious pair of plonkers

:rolleyes:

[jet]

You weren't just expressing an opinion on the rights/wrongs of his specific actions or something he's said though, you were suggesting that you have a better idea about where he should settle and what would make him happy. That would be a huge leap even if it was about one of your own friends or family members... Suggesting that you have a better idea of what would make a complete stranger happier or more fulfilled than they do themself is really out there. But that's just MY opinion.


We all form our opinions and impressions from what we read, hear and see, and my opinions are educated ones, FYI.
If you are interested in the Royals, as I am, you read what people who have been around them have to say. There are Royal correspondents and royal reporters who have known Harry since he was a little boy, have accompanied him on tours all over the world, have drank with him at the end of the day in bars, when he let his hair down. There are his Royal biographers like Penny Junor who have interviewed him in depth and have been allowed to follow him in his work for months on end.
Royal reporter Arthur Edwards adored Harry, their families holidayed together, and he cried on screen when Harry announced he was leaving the UK, He loved Harry like a son and Harry called him Uncle Arhur.

They know Harry. They say how caring he is, how sensitive and emotional and humble he is. How much fun he is, the pranks they played on each other. How he lived and breathed his army charities like the one for wounded veterans and how important his army pals were to him.
That’s all gone now and he has no meaningful work or friends to replace them.

I have read the official Harry biographies like I read nearly all Royal biographies. So I have my own impressions too of what he is like.
If these people who know him better than you or I; think he isn’t the happy person he was, that LA and Harry is as far from a good match as you can get and are concerned, they are worth listening to.

If William cautioned Harry about rushing into marriage with Meghan (which he did and that is what caused the rift between them) that is worth a thought as to why.
I have always liked Harry a lot, and yes, I am worried for him.
Yes, nobody know him like he knows himself, but we can still form educated impressions and have a right to express them.

[rusticgal]

'The sun said Meghan spat at her dad'
'The daily fail said meghan locks harry in a cage at night'
'moon faced dan wootton said Meghan started covid'

and people such as yourself eat it up like a cake. it's so sad.



Well why don’t you read my previous post and see what I base my information on.
It’s people like you who don’t read things properly before jumping in feet first and making stupid accusations.

If you read the whole thread you will see that no one has stated any of those ridiculous accusations....only the more believable ones.

[The Slim Reaper]

did you see the patronising video from their 20 million quid mansion\?

what an odious pair of plonkers

:rolleyes:

You seem jealous of their success

[Crimson Dynamo]

You seem jealous of their success

when they achieve some be sure to let the group know

[jet]

'The sun said Meghan spat at her dad'
'The daily fail said meghan locks harry in a cage at night'
'moon faced dan wootton said Meghan started covid'

and people such as yourself eat it up like a cake. it's so sad.

Don't insult Rusticgals intelligence with such stupid examples of headlines that you state she 'would eat up like cake'.

Disgusting post.

[rusticgal]

Don't insult Rusticgals intelligence with such stupid examples of headlines that you state she 'would eat up like cake'.

Disgusting post.



Shock....not :laugh:

[jet]

did you see the patronising video from their 20 million quid mansion\?

what an odious pair of plonkers

:rolleyes:

They try hard to stay relevant by jumping on the latest bandwagon. Poor Harry could hardly get a minute to speak before she was off on her soapbox again with her LA'isms.

[Marsh.]

Well he is because he is defending her...

No he's not, he's stating people like Jet pretending they know strangers because they read a few sentences by unnamed "sources" and for some strange reasons believe they know Harry better than he knows himself, despite having never even met the man is stupid.

Because... it is stupid.

[Marsh.]

Yes and you assume she is perfect and done nothing wrong...well some people disagree because of what they have read and heard.
I mean there is so much to see....the fall out with William and Harry since being with her...the not wanting to tow the line with Royal protocol...the fall out with her family justified by only her mother being at the wedding. I mean she isnt completely innocent is she...

Yes, calling someone's bullsh*t assumptions about a stranger... bullsh*t means they think that stranger is "perfect".

Watertight logic that one.

[Marsh.]

did you see the patronising video from their 20 million quid mansion\?

what an odious pair of plonkers

:rolleyes:

Ikr, they should have stayed in... that other mansion... paid for by taxpayers... you know like the "independent" Kate and Wills.

[Crimson Dynamo]

They try hard to stay relevant by jumping on the latest bandwagon. Poor Harry could hardly get a minute to speak before she was off on her soapbox again with her LA'isms.

she gave him such a look the poor boy is totally in her control. very worrying..

[Liam-]

Ikr, they should have stayed in... that other mansion... paid for by taxpayers... you know like the "independent" Kate and Wills.

‘He won’t feel comfortable around rich and famous people in LA’ is my personal favourite assumption in this thread, like he was among commoners in his circles here

[jet]

No he's not, he's stating people like Jet pretending they know strangers because they read a few sentences by unnamed "sources" and for some strange reasons believe they know Harry better than he knows himself, despite having never even met the man is stupid.

Because... it is stupid.

I've named some sources upthread from people who HAVE met the man. But as usual you ignore and carry on with your mind numbing no - substance nonsense regardless.
You posts are like a broken record, repeat, repeat, repeat.

[Marsh.]

I've named some sources upthread from people who HAVE met the man. But as usual you ignore and carry on with your mind numbing no - substance nonsense regardless.
You posts are like a broken record, repeat, repeat, repeat.

Sorry, love, I didn't ask for a repeat of your rubbish. x

[Marsh.]

‘He won’t feel comfortable around rich and famous people in LA’ is my personal favourite assumption in this thread, like he was among commoners in his circles here

:joker: Ikr.

Joe Bloggs being seduced by the rich famous woman.

[rusticgal]

No he's not, he's stating people like Jet pretending they know strangers because they read a few sentences by unnamed "sources" and for some strange reasons believe they know Harry better than he knows himself, despite having never even met the man is stupid.

Because... it is stupid.


It’s pretty obvious Jet is well versed on the Royals....he has it seems a better insight than you or I have. If you are well versed on something or someone you probably do feel you know someone even though you haven’t met them.

Nothing strange about that at all...and it’s certainly not stupid.

[Marsh.]

It’s pretty obvious Jet is well versed on the Royals....

It's pretty obvious Jet feels that way.

Reading every Daily Mail article that comes out about her whenever she breathes or walks the dog is not "pretty well versed" on anything to anyone with common sense.

[rusticgal]

‘He won’t feel comfortable around rich and famous people in LA’ is my personal favourite assumption in this thread, like he was among commoners in his circles here


Tinseltown Rich and famous are a different breed....

[jet]

Ikr, they should have stayed in... that other mansion... paid for by taxpayers... you know like the "independent" Kate and Wills.

You mean the hard working future King and Queen as opposed to the bolters getting handouts like a rent free mansion and Daddy - in - laws money. :laugh:

[Liam-]

Tinseltown Rich and famous are a different breed....

Certainly are, most of the people in Hollywood worked hard to get where they are, like Meghan did, completely different to the old money rich and famous folk Harry used to run with.

[rusticgal]

Certainly are, most of the people in Hollywood worked hard to get where they are, like Meghan did, completely different to the old money rich and famous folk Harry used to run with.


Oh what do you base those facts on..:laugh:

All those hard working movie stars they will be surrounded by ��

[Marsh.]

You mean the hard working future King and Queen as opposed to the bolters getting handouts like a rent free mansion and Daddy - in - laws money. :laugh:

The irony of this statement is completely lost on you, isn't it? :joker:

I'm sure "hardworking", "independent" Kate and Wills appreciate your support as they refuse handouts and free housing. :worry:

[Jack_]

This thread reminds me of Omah's Katie Price megathread :skull:

[Liam-]

Oh what do you base those facts on..:laugh:

All those hard working movie stars they will be surrounded by ��

The fact that most actors actually have to work and fight to get positions? It’s hard work, unlike being born into money and influence

[Marsh.]

This thread reminds me of Omah's Katie Price megathread :skull:

OH MY GOd. I forgot about that.

[Marsh.]

The fact that most actors actually have to work and fight to get positions? It’s hard work, unlike being born into money and influence

Excuse you, William went through a rigorous interview process to be accepted as Charles first-born. :nono:

[Jack_]

OH MY GOd. I forgot about that.

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=173221

48 pages of mess :umm2:

[jet]

The irony of this statement is completely lost on you, isn't it? :joker:

I'm sure "hardworking", "independent" Kate and Wills appreciate your support as they refuse handouts and free housing. :worry:

What irony? Wills and Kate are working royals, Megs and Harry aren't any more - didn't you get the memo? - but they are still sponging off Daddy and some old billionaires charity.

[Marsh.]

What irony? Wills and Kate are working royals, Megs and Harry aren't any more - didn't you get the memo? - but they are still sponging off Daddy and some old billionaires charity.

More irony.

[Marsh.]

I almost didn't recognise you there LT.

[joeysteele]

I'm not particularly a fan of Meghan.

However the press did seem to be heading to being too intrusive with a negative agenda towards her.

Harry witnessed similar to his own Mother.
I think it's clear to anyone, Harry adores Meghan.

It doesn't matter if she maybe is controlling or isn't, I think he was driven to stepping down, due to what happened to his Mother, plus them both now just having a child too.

I was stunned he would close all doors and abandon duty.
At the time, his Grandfather and Grandmother were in their 90s.
Needing to rely on other Royals more.

For Harry to charge off completely, piling more onto his Father and Brother did surprise me.

He has though, I'd say, done this to protect his wife and child as much as can be possible.
So I see no reason to condemn him for that or even Meghan.

Furthermore if Prince Charles was still supporting them, that's what Father's do.
It shouldn't be a stick to beat them with.

All I'll say is good luck to them and their child too.

[jet]

‘He won’t feel comfortable around rich and famous people in LA’ is my personal favourite assumption in this thread, like he was among commoners in his circles here

Thats right, he won't. Royalty and LA celebs are totally different entities.

[Marsh.]

Thats right, he won't. Royalty and LA celebs are totally different entities.

I know. One at least offer a product in exchange for public money, the other... just takes it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'm not particularly a fan of Meghan.

However the press did seem to be heading to being too intrusive with a negative agenda towards her.

Harry witnessed similar to his own Mother.
I think it's clear to anyone, Harry adores Meghan.

It doesn't matter if she maybe is controlling or isn't, I think he was driven to stepping down, due to what happened to his Mother, plus them both now just having a child too.

I was stunned he would close all doors and abandon duty.
At the time, his Grandfather and Grandmother were in their 90s.
Needing to rely on other Royals more.

For Harry to charge off completely, piling more onto his Father and Brother did surprise me.

He has though, I'd say, done this to protect his wife and child as much as can be possible.
So I see no reason to condemn him for that or even Meghan.

Furthermore if Prince Charles was still supporting them, that's what Father's do.
It shouldn't be a stick to beat them with.

All I'll say is good luck to them and their child too.

It's a good fair post

[jet]

I know. One at least offer a product in exchange for public money, the other... just takes it.

Proves you know absolutely nothing about Royalty, just as you know absolutely nothing about Meghan and Harry.

[Amy Jade]

Well why don’t you read my previous post and see what I base my information on.
It’s people like you who don’t read things properly before jumping in feet first and making stupid accusations.

If you read the whole thread you will see that no one has stated any of those ridiculous accusations....only the more believable ones.

You literally said you based your opinion of her by what you read. Says it all to me, no longer any need to read anything more and waste my time.

[Marsh.]

Proves you know absolutely nothing about Royalty, just as you know absolutely nothing about Meghan and Harry.

More irony.

[Amy Jade]

https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/106/285x190/1203233_1.jpg

[Beso]

https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/106/285x190/1203233_1.jpg

Jesus....run harry run...


She wants to be your mummy

[jet]

Jesus....run harry run...


She wants to be your mummy

It's far from the first time she has copied Diana's identical clothes....and her childhood friend revealed she had lots of books about Diana in her bedroom bookshelf. Creepy.

[Glenn.]

https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/106/285x190/1203233_1.jpg

Kate could never

[Marsh.]

https://i.imgur.com/wrzlaK4.jpg?1

Jesus....run William run...


She wants to be your mummy

It's far from the first time she has copied Diana's identical clothes....

https://i.imgur.com/bXdq0c6.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/sTovhQA.jpg?1

https://media.glamour.com/photos/5a87624412849824f857b6e2/master/w_400%2Cc_limit/kate-diana-pink-hats.jpg

...and her childhood friend revealed she had lots of books about Diana in her bedroom bookshelf. Creepy.

https://i.imgur.com/HIIskNV.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/ctju7FM.jpg?1

Watch out Wills! She'll be shagging Charles next!

[Glenn.]

And I oop

[Liam-]

Gagged

[Crimson Dynamo]

Kate is so amazing

[jet]

Kate is so amazing

Many a woman would kill for those legs....

[Amy Jade]

:omgno:

[Amy Jade]

why does kate keep dressing like our diana though? like she'll dress like diana did to similar occasions and everything, it's cute once or twice but she's done it several times.

https://www.thestar.com/content/dam/thestar/life/fashion_style/2018/11/23/why-does-kate-middleton-keep-dressing-like-princess-diana/diana04.jpg

[Glenn.]

What a creep

[Mystic Mock]

It's far from the first time she has copied Diana's identical clothes....and her childhood friend revealed she had lots of books about Diana in her bedroom bookshelf. Creepy.

Tbf can't she just be interested to know stuff about her Husband's Mother?:laugh:

The identical clothing is a bit odd I'll give you that one.:joker:

[Mystic Mock]

https://i.imgur.com/wrzlaK4.jpg?1

Jesus....run William run...


She wants to be your mummy

It's far from the first time she has copied Diana's identical clothes....

https://i.imgur.com/bXdq0c6.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/sTovhQA.jpg?1

https://media.glamour.com/photos/5a87624412849824f857b6e2/master/w_400%2Cc_limit/kate-diana-pink-hats.jpg

...and her childhood friend revealed she had lots of books about Diana in her bedroom bookshelf. Creepy.

https://i.imgur.com/HIIskNV.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/ctju7FM.jpg?1

Watch out Wills! She'll be shagging Charles next!

Their Wives dressing up as their Mother is getting a bit weird for me.:laugh:

[Ammi]

...to be fair to both Meghan and Kate, I think many of their outfits are specifically designed for them using ‘Diana inspiration’...and I’m sure they’re happy with that because Diana defined elegance and style and was such a fashion icon...fashion any way is just a current version of...?...but colours and styles of Diana will be more prominent because of her style influence of future Royal ladies...I imagine that we’ll still be seeing her influences for more generations...

[Ammi]

...I have to say, she did get it very wrong as well at times ...:laugh:...

[joeysteele]

I think a lot about the Royals can be thought of as weird.
It must be a weird kind of way of life.

I never noticed the dressing the same, then again I guess their advised what to wear too.

I still just think, Harry is very happy with Meghan.
If he has no issues how she dresses, I see none myself.

In any existence or profession, happiness has to be a key element to relationships.
I believe myself Harry and Meghan are.
Moreso since their decision to step away.

Of course the media will still be watching them so for us they won't have gone away completely.

Diana did set new targets of dress and style.
I do have to say as much as I think Diana in her work as a Royal, opened much more of humanity and compassionate elements.

Since being with Camilla, Prince Charles has never looked more relaxed and happier.

That is the main thing.
Never mind what's worn.
Life can be cut very short at no notice.
Striving to be happy should be the key and supported.

[Ammi]

I think a lot about the Royals can be thought of as weird.
It must be a weird kind of way of life.

I never noticed the dressing the same, then again I guess their advised what to wear too.

I still just think, Harry is very happy with Meghan.
If he has no issues how she dresses, I see none myself.

In any existence or profession, happiness has to be a key element to relationships.
I believe myself Harry and Meghan are.
Moreso since their decision to step away.

Of course the media will still be watching them so for us they won't have gone away completely.

Diana did set new targets of dress and style.
I do have to say as much as I think Diana in her work as a Royal, opened much more of humanity and compassionate elements.

Since being with Camilla, Prince Charles has never looked more relaxed and happier.

That is the main thing.
Never mind what's worn.
Life can be cut very short at no notice.
Striving to be happy should be the key and supported.

...Diana was very good at using her style with the media when she had something to say, an issue she wanted to highlight etc...what she wore was her first point of gaining that attention so that all eyes were on her...with her intention of then all ears to be on her as well from that...

[jet]

Tbf can't she just be interested to know stuff about her Husband's Mother?:laugh:

The identical clothing is a bit odd I'll give you that one.:joker:

No Mock - the Diana books - this was back when they were teens. :hee:
Theres a photo of the 2 of them posing outside the gates of Buck Palace when teens.

[joeysteele]

...Diana was very good at using her style with the media when she had something to say, an issue she wanted to highlight etc...what she wore was her first point of gaining that attention so that all eyes were on her...with her intention of then all ears to be on her as well from that...

I was only 5 when Diana tragically died.

Watching documentaries and seeing footage of her and all her ventures.
I can see all you're saying is spot on Ammi.

[Marsh.]

...to be fair to both Meghan and Kate, I think many of their outfits are specifically designed for them using ‘Diana inspiration’...and I’m sure they’re happy with that because Diana defined elegance and style and was such a fashion icon...fashion any way is just a current version of...?...but colours and styles of Diana will be more prominent because of her style influence of future Royal ladies...I imagine that we’ll still be seeing her influences for more generations...

How DARE you come in here with your newfangled common sense!!! :fist:

SHOO!

[Marsh.]

No Mock - the Diana books - this was back when they were teens. :hee:
Theres a photo of the 2 of them posing outside the gates of Buck Palace when teens.

:omgno: Not Meghan visiting a tourist attraction - what a cow!

[thesheriff443]

why does kate keep dressing like our diana though? like she'll dress like diana did to similar occasions and everything, it's cute once or twice but she's done it several times.

https://www.thestar.com/content/dam/thestar/life/fashion_style/2018/11/23/why-does-kate-middleton-keep-dressing-like-princess-diana/diana04.jpg

Because that photos she is in a Muslim country were women cover here head.

But more importantly your hypocrisy at thinking it’s ok to compare Meghan to Diana and not to compare Kate to her.

[Marsh.]

Yeah... hypocrisy.

[Nicky91]

Because that photos she is in a Muslim country were women cover here head.

But more importantly your hypocrisy at thinking it’s ok to compare Meghan to Diana and not to compare Kate to her.

one major but, Kate is not a muslim, or does that rule apply to all women in those countries, tourists included?

[thesheriff443]

one major but, Kate is not a muslim, or does that rule apply to all women in those countries, tourists included?

It applies to all women in those countries that have those laws

[Nicky91]

It applies to all women in those countries that have those laws

thank you for explaining me this

[jet]

Apart from the unbelieveable 'howler' this is an interesting read about the Commonwealth.

https://newscolony.com/robert-hardman-dear-harry-check-your-history-before-making-howlers-about-the-commonwealth/

Dear Harry, check your history before making howlers about the Commonwealth.

As Harry demands the Commonwealth atone for its past — apparently confusing it with the Empire — the Mail’s ROBERT HARDMAN, who has covered the organisation over many years, pens this heartfelt open letter to the Duke . . .


You were one of the best things to happen to the Commonwealth in the past few years when you became the passionate new royal envoy for an organisation covering a third of the Earth’s population.

I was in the room at the 2018 London Summit when you took your seat as the Queen’s new Commonwealth Youth Ambassador. Given that two-thirds of the Commonwealth are under the age of 30, it was an important role.
A month later, I was at Windsor Castle to see you and your dazzling bride step out into the world as the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. Stretching behind you both was that poignant and clever tribute to both the Commonwealth and its Head, the Queen.

The Duchess’s veil (like the Queen’s Coronation dress in 1953) had been embroidered with the flowers of every single Commonwealth nation. There were 53 of them on your wedding day, though it’s now gone up to an all-time record of 54.
That’s the funny thing about the Commonwealth. It keeps on getting bigger. People keep wanting to join this post-imperial ‘club’ — even if they were nothing to do with the British Empire in the first place.

Which is why so many of us were surprised and disappointed by the tone of your remarks this week. Joining an online discussion with Commonwealth youth leaders from your new home in California, you made it clear that the overarching priority for the organisation must be to atone for its wrongs.
‘When you look across the Commonwealth, there is no way that we can move forward unless we acknowledge the past,’ you declared. ‘So many people have done such an incredible job of acknowledging the past and trying to right those wrongs, but I think we all acknowledge there is so much more still to do.’
This struck such an odd note that I initially wondered whether you had been misquoted. But then I watched the full video and there was the Duchess saying the same.

On the question of ‘the Commonwealth’, she said it raised a question on both a ‘macro’ and ‘micro’ level: ‘What have we done in our past that we put our hand up? This is a moment of reckoning where so many people go: “You know what, I need to own that. Maybe I didn’t do the right thing there.” ’
It is a common enough mistake among people with no great interest in the subject, but it’s a baffling error for the grandson of the Queen.

She also said: ‘We’re going to have be a little uncomfortable right now, because it’s only in pushing through that discomfort that we can get to the other side of this.’
I’m not entirely comfortable saying this, but you seem to assume that the Commonwealth and the British Empire are one and the same thing.
It is a common enough mistake among people with no great interest in the subject, but a pretty baffling howler for the President of the Queen’s Commonwealth Trust (as you continue to be, despite relinquishing the Youth Ambassador role).

The modern Commonwealth was born as the Empire shrivelled. It was, and is, an entirely voluntary organisation created in 1949 with ‘the King as the symbol of the free association of its independent member nations and as such the Head of the Commonwealth’. The whole point was that no one had to belong.
And yet given the choice, almost all the free and independent nations which had once been part of the British Empire gladly signed up to this new creation. To this day, 15 of them (not including Britain) freely retain your grandmother as their head of state.

A few of those have even had the odd referendum on replacing her with a president but, each time, the voters have vetoed the idea. No compulsion there, either.
Just as no one has ever been compelled to join this club, so those who leave or who get kicked out soon end up trying to get back in (the Maldives have just been readmitted after a few years in the cold).

It is hard to think of an organisation which has had a better record in confronting colonial oppression in modern times, be it bringing about the end of white rule in Rhodesia or fighting apartheid in South Africa.
One of Nelson Mandela’s first executive acts on being elected president of a new and democratic South Africa in 1994 was to resume its membership of the Commonwealth (before it even returned to the UN).

No one was more delighted than the Head of the Commonwealth herself, as I discovered when writing my book, Queen Of The World.
In 1994, when Nelson Mandela (pictured middle) was elected president of South Africa , one of his first tasks to resume its membership of the Commonwealth, which delighted the Queen.

She would go on to become a great friend of Mandela (one of the only non-royal world leaders who would routinely call her ‘Elizabeth’ and get away with it), as she has with so many of those titans of Commonwealth history.
Some, including Jawaharlal Nehru, founding father of modern India, had even been imprisoned under British imperial rule.
However, they always drew a very clear distinction between the British government on the one hand, and the Queen and her Commonwealth on the other.

That is because she has always drawn a clear line herself. When her British Prime Minister Edward Heath (who loathed the Commonwealth) tried to keep her away from the 1973 Commonwealth summit in Ottawa, she went behind his back and accepted an invitation in her capacity as Queen of Canada.
During the Sixties, when Harold Wilson tried to treat the first holder of the newly created post of Commonwealth secretary-general like a junior clerk, the Queen invited him round for dinner. She then redrafted the order of precedence to make him the most senior diplomat in London.

Shortly after Ghana had removed her as head of state, she still ignored bomb threats and pressed ahead with her 1961 state visit to the fledgling republic (against the advice of many in Parliament), making world headlines as she danced with the fiery President Nkrumah.

The white queen dancing with the black father of independence, at the very moment that South Africa was being ostracised for its hated apartheid regime, spoke louder than any oratory. All through her reign, she has quietly but purposefully endorsed Nehru’s original Commonwealth mission statement: ‘a touch of healing’.
Which is why, Sir, your remarks go against all that the Queen has attempted to do over all these years.

‘It’s about seeking consensus and positives and looking forward,’ says one senior ex-diplomat. ‘If you want to start raking over the past, you’ll soon find muck but it won’t be Britain that tries to shut down that conversation.’ He points to the entrenched racial divides in Malaysia, Guyana, Fiji and elsewhere.
The Commonwealth may not be the force it once was. It might embrace diversity (encompassing every major faith on every continent) but it can also be equally diverse when it comes to human rights.

Many members, for example, still criminalise homosexuality; more than 20 of them still have the death penalty. It doesn’t pretend to be perfect, but gets things done among nations with a shared language and legal code, all of whom have pledged to improve their democratic standards.
As such, it remains an important badge of respect, a fact underlined by the queue of countries which want to join despite no links to Britain, imperial or otherwise.

You may recall you yourself visited one of them on your tour of southern Africa last year — Angola. Other non-British ex-colonies such as Cameroon and Mozambique are already members.
None is more enthusiastic than Rwanda. Until the pandemic intervened, the former Belgian colony had even been due to host last month’s Commonwealth summit, with your father, the Prince of Wales — and future Head — opening the proceedings.

Yes, we are in the midst of a global debate about racism. As you say in an under-reported section of your speech, you want to be in the vanguard of change: ‘Everything is coming to a head. Change is happening far quicker than before. We just need this movement to continue this momentum for as long as it takes.’
But in painting the Commonwealth as a problem rather than an answer, you are undermining an organisation which has gone to great trouble to embrace you.
And, in turn, you are devaluing one of the great successes of your grandmother’s record-breaking reign.

Yours, Robert Hardman

[rusticgal]

You literally said you based your opinion of her by what you read. Says it all to me, no longer any need to read anything more and waste my time.

If you were to read the post correctly and the previous post you will have seen that I said I dont read magazines or newspapers. My opinion is based on documentries and what I READ (on news channels on line.) and hear.
Typically you pick out what you want to see to justify your embaressing response. Considering this thread was started by you its taken 15 pages for you to make an appearance. Maybe you should take your time to read what people have posted on YOUR thread and maybe show them a little bit of respect whether you agree with them or not.

[Glenn.]

‘The Mails Robert Hardman’

[Glenn.]

If you were to read the post correctly and the previous post you will have seen that I said I dont read magazines or newspapers. My opinion is based on documentries and what I READ (on news channels on line.) and hear.
Typically you pick out what you want to see to justify your embaressing response. Considering this thread was started by you its taken 15 pages for you to make an appearance. Maybe you should take your time to read what people have posted on YOUR thread and maybe show them a little bit of respect whether you agree with them or not.

What documentaries have you watched about Harry and Meghan? Where do you think the articles you read online come from?

[jet]

‘The Mails Robert Hardman’

And your point is?

[Glenn.]

And your point is?

That the Mail is notorious for hounding the pair of them. That’s why you hate them?

[rusticgal]

Kate is so amazing

She carries everything off with perfection. Shes discreet and such a natural with children. She doesnt demand special treatment...shes not out to make a name for herself and prove anything to anyone. Shes perfect...

[Glenn.]

:joker: :joker: :joker:

[Niamh.]

She carries everything off with perfection. Shes discreet and such a natural with children. She doesnt demand special treatment...shes not out to make a name for herself and prove anything to anyone. Shes perfect...

I know you're talking about the Royals and how they should act etc but that description right there (besides good with kids) sounds like such a sad and sorry existence

[Glenn.]

She was baiting Nimah

[jet]

That the Mail is notorious for hounding the pair of them. That’s why you hate them?

Did you even read the article? There is nothing but facts there.

Harry and Meghan's embarrassing gaffe has also been talked about on Sky News and covered by The Times and all the leading newspapers.

It's called news. If Harry and Meghan don't want to be in the news, (which they do) they should live the private life they said they wanted.

[Glenn.]

Did you even read the article? There is nothing but facts there.

Harry and Meghan's embarrassing gaffe has also been talked about on Sky News and covered by The Times and all the leading newspapers.

It's called news. If Harry and Meghan don't want to be in the news, (which they do) they should live the private life they said they wanted.

I don’t read tabloids

[rusticgal]

What documentaries have you watched about Harry and Meghan? Where do you think the articles you read online come from?


There have been documentaries on the royals over the last few weeks on SKY from Diana to Andrew and Sarah Ferguson to William, Kate Harry and Meghan.

[jet]

I don’t read tabloids

Neither do I. I read online articles and either discard them as nonsense or think they have merit.

I will repeat a post I made earlier:

We all form our opinions and impressions from what we read, hear and see, and my opinions are educated ones, FYI.
If you are interested in the Royals, as I am, you read what people who have been around them have to say. There are Royal correspondents and royal reporters who have known Harry since he was a little boy, have accompanied him on tours all over the world, have drank with him at the end of the day in bars, when he let his hair down. There are his Royal biographers like Penny Junor who have interviewed him in depth and have been allowed to follow him in his work for months on end.
Royal reporter Arthur Edwards adored Harry, their families holidayed together, and he cried on screen when Harry announced he was leaving the UK, He loved Harry like a son and Harry called him Uncle Arhur.

They know Harry. They say how caring he is, how sensitive and emotional and humble he is. How much fun he is, the pranks they played on each other. How he lived and breathed his army charities like the one for wounded veterans and how important his army pals were to him.
That’s all gone now and he has no meaningful work or friends to replace them.

I have read the official Harry biographies like I read nearly all Royal biographies. So I have my own impressions too of what he is like.
If these people who know him better than you or I; think he isn’t the happy person he was, that LA and Harry is as far from a good match as you can get and are concerned, they are worth listening to.

If William cautioned Harry about rushing into marriage with Meghan (which he did and that is what caused the rift between them) that is worth a thought as to why.
I have always liked Harry a lot, and yes, I am worried for him.
Yes, nobody know him like he knows himself, but we can still form educated impressions and have a right to express them.



Where do you get your impressions of Meghan/Harry from?

[Glenn.]

Neither do I. I read online articles and either discard them as nonsense or think they have merit.

I will repeat a post I made earlier:



Where do you get your impressions of Meghan/Harry from?

You literally just posted an article from the Daily Mail though so...

[rusticgal]

I know you're talking about the Royals and how they should act etc but that description right there (besides good with kids) sounds like such a sad and sorry existence

Why?....she and William are clearly in love and they have three adorable children. She always looks happy and they seem to have a great relationship with her parents and William was reported to have said how sunday roasts at his in laws was something he very much loved.
Kate knew what was going to be expected of her and she has shown so much dignity and respect to William and the Queen with all the values I mentioned before.

They arent always on duty you know but Kate took on a duty in order to marry the man she loved and she ticks all the boxes.

And another thing...she doesnt get William to record her reading stories to her children and then posting it on social media...:laugh:

[Glenn.]

Imagine having an issue with a father wanting to share how amazing his wife is with his child.

[jet]

You literally just posted an article from the Daily Mail though so...

Because its a good article which has merit.

Why didn't you answer my question?

[rusticgal]

She was baiting Nimah


No I wasnt...thats my opinion.

[Tom4784]

She carries everything off with perfection. Shes discreet and such a natural with children. She doesnt demand special treatment...shes not out to make a name for herself and prove anything to anyone. Shes perfect...

So she's subservient and lives to be nothing more than a dutiful wife and baby factory and that makes her perfect?

**** me, how grim. It's like I've time travelled back to the 1800's.

[rusticgal]

Imagine having an issue with a father wanting to share how amazing his wife is with his child.


It was cringeworthy...and desperate imo.

[Tom4784]

Wives should be silent and never seen! they should never be praised!

[Glenn.]

Because its a good article which has merit.

Why didn't you answer my question?

Good article because it goes against Harry and Meghan...

I didn’t have much of an opinion on Harry or Meghan when they first got together. As two people I will never come into contact with they have very little bearing on my life. Then I see how the poisonous media made even more vindictive and poisonous people who think it’s completely acceptable to be vile towards them. The blatant racism from the media and hilarious double standards formed my opinion that I am not likely to listen to bull**** articles about them and let them live in peace and strive to make gutless, horrible people see the error of their ways when it comes to ripping complete strangers to pieces online.

[Vanessa]

I think Kate is more like Diana.
She's kind and compassionate, which makes her my favourite royal.
I don't dislike Megan, I just don't find her relatable.

[Niamh.]

Why?....she and William are clearly in love and they have three adorable children. She always looks happy and they seem to have a great relationship with her parents and William was reported to have said how sunday roasts at his in laws was something he very much loved.
Kate knew what was going to be expected of her and she has shown so much dignity and respect to William and the Queen with all the values I mentioned before.

They arent always on duty you know but Kate took on a duty in order to marry the man she loved and she ticks all the boxes.

And another thing...she doesnt get William to record her reading stories to her children and then posting it on social media...:laugh:

You just made it sound like the only good wife is a quiet wallflower who never wants anything for herself, and should be happy serving her husband :laugh:

[Glenn.]

It was cringeworthy...and desperate imo.

How nasty.

[Vanessa]

:clap1:She carries everything off with perfection. Shes discreet and such a natural with children. She doesnt demand special treatment...shes not out to make a name for herself and prove anything to anyone. Shes perfect...

[LukeB]

No one is perfect... there’s no such thing has a perfect person FACT

[rusticgal]

So she's subservient and lives to be nothing more than a dutiful wife and baby factory and that makes her perfect?

**** me, how grim. It's like I've time travelled back to the 1800's.


So when you go to work do you not strive to be a good worker and do whats asked of you?....does that make you subservient?....Because thats what Kate does...when she married William she not only married the man she loved but she also took on a role in the Royal family....just like Diana/Megan/Sarah...some simply did it better than others.

[LukeB]

You just made it sound like the only good wife is a quiet wallflower who never wants anything for herself, and should be happy serving her husband :laugh:

:skull: yeah. I thought this year was 2020

[Cherie]

Apart from the unbelieveable 'howler' this is an interesting read about the Commonwealth.

https://newscolony.com/robert-hardman-dear-harry-check-your-history-before-making-howlers-about-the-commonwealth/

I don’t know much about the commonwealth so thats a good potted history, but I was dumbfounded with Harry addressing the commonwealth with regard to addressing past wrongs :shrug:

[rusticgal]

No one is perfect... there’s no such thing has a perfect person FACT

ok...:laugh:

[Cherie]

She was baiting Nimah

The irony is too much

[Vanessa]

Harry actually was my favourite until recently.
But now it's Kate all the way :love:

[Glenn.]

The irony is too much

Stay on topic Cherie :thumbs:

[jet]

Good article because it goes against Harry and Meghan...

I didn’t have much of an opinion on Harry or Meghan when they first got together. As two people I will never come into contact with they have very little bearing on my life. Then I see how the poisonous media made even more vindictive and poisonous people who think it’s completely acceptable to be vile towards them. The blatant racism from the media and hilarious double standards formed my opinion that I am not likely to listen to bull**** articles about them and let them live in peace and strive to make gutless, horrible people see the error of their ways when it comes to ripping complete strangers to pieces online.

You shouldn't read the more sensational tabloids and online vile sites. They slate anyone and everyone. Search out articles from people who have an idea of what they are talking about.

[Marsh.]

‘The Mails Robert Hardman’

:joker:

[Marsh.]

I think Kate is more like Diana.
She's kind and compassionate, which makes her my favourite royal.
I don't dislike Megan, I just don't find her relatable.

I can't wait until the Stepford curse breaks on Kate and she hurls herself down the Palace steps in a cry for help. :flutter:

[jet]

So when you go to work do you not strive to be a good worker and do whats asked of you?....does that make you subservient?....Because thats what Kate does...when she married William she not only married the man she loved but she also took on a role in the Royal family....just like Diana/Megan/Sarah...some simply did it better than others.

Exactly - its like how awful that someone carries out their duties brilliantly and respects the Queen.
According to those that know her, Kate is a actually a lot of fun in private, an hilarious mimic and a great sportswoman. Harry adored her and they were very close. There are so many pics of them over the years larking about when off duty at the polo etc. :love:

[Marsh.]

You shouldn't read the more sensational tabloids and online vile sites. They slate anyone and everyone. Search out articles from people who have an idea of what they are talking about.

Translation: Search out anything that allows me to justify the feeling that stirs inside me whenever I see a picture of this woman that I don't know.

[jet]

I don’t know much about the commonwealth so thats a good potted history, but I was dumbfounded with Harry addressing the commonwealth with regard to addressing past wrongs :shrug:

I know...it was so embarrassing. They get it so wrong so often, then when they are pulled up on it, they are seen as poor victims once again.....

[Vanessa]

Exactly - its like how awful that someone carries out their duties brilliantly and respects the Queen.
According to those that know her, Kate is a actually a lot of fun in private, an hilarious mimic and a great sportswoman. Harry adored her and they were very close. There are so many pics of them over the years larking about when off duty at the polo etc. :love:
Yes, she seem so warm and gentle. I love her.

[Liam-]

Kate took on the duties except when she wanted to take days off just to spend time with her kids

[rusticgal]

Kate took on the duties except when she wanted to take days off just to spend time with her kids


whats your point? :conf:

[Glenn.]

Kate took on the duties except when she wanted to take days off just to spend time with her kids

What a slacker

[Liam-]

whats your point? :conf:

She shirked her responsibilities to try and be normal, while maintaining her position and her privilege, I thought we hated that?

[rusticgal]

She shirked her responsibilities to try and be normal, while maintaining her position and her privilege...


Oh I thought you liked Meghan...:laugh:

[Liam-]

Oh I thought you liked Meghan...:laugh:

I do! I didn’t have a problem with Kate doing what she did either, because I’m fair and not hypocritical, what did you think about Kate doing that?

[Marsh.]

Kate just wanted the money and status. She had it all planned from the minute she clapped eyes on him at uni.

[Ammi]

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[Ammi]

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[Ammi]

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[Ammi]

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[Ammi]

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[Liam-]

But Ammi, they were obviously treated the same, the royal correspondents said so!

[Ammi]

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[Ammi]

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[Ammi]

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[rusticgal]

I do! I didn’t have a problem with Kate doing what she did either, because I’m fair and not hypocritical, what did you think about Kate doing that?

Kate is dedicated to her work and her role as future Queen of England and when shes not working she spends it with her family.
Meghan simply doesnt compare....

[Ammi]

But Ammi, they were obviously treated the same, the royal correspondents said so!

...I like them both, they’re both their own people, have their own styles and their own individuality and comparing the two I think is just silly...if they are a ‘brand’ then they’re a brand second and individuals first...and it is largely females who have these comparisons laid on them in the same way...William and Harry have always had a completely different approach to their Royal duties because William is heir to the throne and Harry isn’t...he has always been afforded a lot more freedom in expressing his individuality...and in how they’re completely different in their character...?...they haven’t had the comparisons laid at them in the same way at all as Kate and Meghan have...

[Liam-]

Kate is dedicated to her work and her role as future Queen of England and when shes not working she spends it with her family.
Meghan simply doesnt compare....

Nono, Kate on several occasions has skipped her royal duties to stay at home with her children, it’s not ‘when she can’ she chose not to do her job to have some normality with her children, while still taking from the royal pot, you can’t deride one and support the other, that’s hypocritical.

[rusticgal]

Kate just wanted the money and status. She had it all planned from the minute she clapped eyes on him at uni.


Well if that was the case...at least she has commited and stayed commited instead of running off with the spoils at the drop of a hat because she wasnt top dog anymore and couldnt get her way....:laugh:

[AnnieK]

Those articles Ammi has posted shows the double standards that do happen in the media.

I just hope both brothers and their families live happy lives and wish people would let them get on with it.

[rusticgal]

Nono, Kate on several occasions has skipped her royal duties to stay at home with her children, it’s not ‘when she can’ she chose not to do her job to have some normality with her children, while still taking from the royal pot, you can’t deride one and support the other, that’s hypocritical.


When did she skip her Royal Duties? Why? and where did you hear about it?

[Ammi]

Those articles Ammi has posted shows the double standards that do happen in the media.

I just hope both brothers and their families live happy lives and wish people would let them get on with it.

...yeah, their completely different lives, Annie...they’ve always been entirely different as people and that will obviously continue into their future and I wish them both well...

[Ammi]

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[Ammi]

....goddamn that Meghan and the shoe protocol....HOW COULD YOU NOT KNOW FOR GOODNESS SAKE....!!!....

[Marsh.]

Kate is dedicated to her work and her role as future Queen of England and when shes not working she spends it with her family.
Meghan simply doesnt compare....

Harry's not headed for the throne so to compare them is futile and idiotic.

[Marsh.]

Well if that was the case...at least she has commited and stayed commited instead of running off with the spoils at the drop of a hat because she wasnt top dog anymore and couldnt get her way....:laugh:

Running off with the spoils?

The woman has it made, without having broken a sweat working for it.

The lot of them literally inherit what they have through birth or marriage so to single Meghan out as some gold digger is just stupid.

[Liam-]

Kate and her family hounded William for him to propose, she wanted to be future queen and she didn’t rest until it happened, poor William, dragged into Kate’s web :worry:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Kate is a wonderful example of a mum and royal and meghan is a devious gold-digger

Anyone can see this and guess what so can "da media"

people surely need to go beyond this basic truth?

[Vanessa]

I don't think Megan is a a gold-digger.
She was already rich before she met Harry.
She's just not very likable for me.

[Marsh.]

Kate is a wonderful example of a mum and royal and meghan is a devious gold-digger

Anyone can see this and guess what so can "da media"

people surely need to go beyond this basic truth?

Nobody has said "da" since Ali G. Are you ok?

[Glenn.]

You don’t know her Vanessa...

[Marsh.]

I don't think Megan is a a gold-digger.
She was already rich before she met Harry.
She's just not very likable for me.

But what exactly isn't likeable? We don't actually know any of them?

[Vanessa]

But what exactly isn't likeable? We don't actually know any of them?

I just find Kate more down to earth.

[Glenn.]

Again though, you don’t know her...

[Crimson Dynamo]

I just find Kate more down to earth.

yes

more panache, better dressed, more natural and able to connect with any class of person

a proper princess that the GBP can get behind

[rusticgal]

Running off with the spoils?

The woman has it made, without having broken a sweat working for it.

Not according to some who believe becoming an actress was extremely hard work :laugh:




The lot of them literally inherit what they have through birth or marriage so to single Meghan out as some gold digger is just stupid.

Not really....she and Harry deserted the Royal family to lead a more private life....but she’s using her status to put herself on a pedestal instead of the low profile they claimed they wanted. She married into the Royal family...it was her choice. After her wonderful wedding swiftly followed by the birth of their son...she ran for the hills...Prince and privileges in tow.