KFC, Nandos , McD and Pret lower prices after VAT cut

[arista]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53411649

[Nando's, Pret A Manger and McDonald's are among firms
to promise reductions after the chancellor ordered a
temporary VAT cut from 20% to 5%.

The Treasury estimates households could
save £160 a year on average,
but not all firms will pass on the benefit.]

[Fast food chain KFC said it would reduce the
price of sharing buckets by £1 and slash the
cost of certain "fan favourites" by 50p.
McDonald's also said it had recommended
that its franchisees cut prices on an
array of products, including popular lines such
as the Big Mac and Quarter Pounder.
There will also be price cuts on coffee.
In the UK, the vast majority of the 1,350
McDonald's outlets are owned and operated
by individual business men and women,
with each franchisee running an
average of six restaurants each.]

[arista]

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8567587/Postcode-checker-shows-pubs-restaurants-offering-10-meals-August.html

[UserSince2005]

This isn't the VAT cut this is the 50% off in August (Monday to Wednesday) dealio

[arista]

This isn't the VAT cut this is the 50% off in August (Monday to Wednesday) dealio


"After the announced Vat Cut"

[The Slim Reaper]

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8567587/Postcode-checker-shows-pubs-restaurants-offering-10-meals-August.html

That maths looks wonky. That's way more than 15% off.

[The Slim Reaper]

This isn't the VAT cut this is the 50% off in August (Monday to Wednesday) dealio

That makes sense.

[MTVN]

Who's joining for a Spoons full English Monday morning then

[Beso]

Just in time for boris and his purge on obesity...c you couldn't make it up.

[Swan]

The McDonalds and KFC near me (both drive-thru's) are packed at the best of times, this is gonna send people into a frenzy :laugh:

[Glenn.]

Even a £1.75 breakfast isn’t gonna to make to eat in Wetherspoons

[Liam-]

Even a £1.75 breakfast isn’t gonna to make to eat in Wetherspoons

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Their food is gross

[Oliver_W]

Nice way to help people lose weight.

VAT cuts and general running costs should be cut for greengrocers and healthy food outlets tbh

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'm going to McDonald's tomorrow

#savingthenation

[user104658]

Does junk food really need to be even cheaper? People will still spend the same they'll just buy double the food :joker:.

[arista]

Does junk food really need to be even cheaper? People will still spend the same they'll just buy double the food :joker:.


But they need more to Return
to their places.

[Livia]

Nice way to help people lose weight.

VAT cuts and general running costs should be cut for greengrocers and healthy food outlets tbh

I was thinking the same. I watched a whole thing on how obesity exacerbates Covid and how the government has a new strategy.

[user104658]

I was thinking the same. I watched a whole thing on how obesity exacerbates Covid and how the government has a new strategy.

There is (apparently) a "covid age calculator" going around that tells you your "covid age" and thus your risk. Being overweight adds 5 years to your "age" (obese 10 years). Other things like underlying health conditions "add years" too. Although, being female apparently takes 8 years OFF so that's nice for you lot :hmph:. It means my Covid age as a bog standard male is 35 but my wife (who is 33) gets 8 years taken off and is only Covid age 25! :fist: Thnaks a lot Covid, now I'm a cradle-robber.

...I can't help but feel that it's akin to an "elf name generator" at christmas though and not actual science. There are actual workplaces using it to assess risk level though, even in healthcare :think:.

Apparently anyone under "covid age 45" is very low risk of complications. But even a 30 year old who, let's say, is male, obese, and has both diabetes and asthma could easily be bumped up to 50+ and be low/moderate risk. And a 55 year old who would be moderate risk could be pushed right into the 70+ bracket and thus at high risk.

It makes SOME sort of sense. I guess.

[Livia]

There is (apparently) a "covid age calculator" going around that tells you your "covid age" and thus your risk. Being overweight adds 5 years to your "age" (obese 10 years). Other things like underlying health conditions "add years" too. Although, being female apparently takes 8 years OFF so that's nice for you lot :hmph:. It means my Covid age as a bog standard male is 35 but my wife (who is 33) gets 8 years taken off and is only Covid age 25! :fist: Thnaks a lot Covid, now I'm a cradle-robber.

...I can't help but feel that it's akin to an "elf name generator" at christmas though and not actual science. There are actual workplaces using it to assess risk level though, even in healthcare :think:.

Apparently anyone under "covid age 45" is very low risk of complications. But even a 30 year old who, let's say, is male, obese, and has both diabetes and asthma could easily be bumped up to 50+ and be low/moderate risk. And a 55 year old who would be moderate risk could be pushed right into the 70+ bracket and thus at high risk.

It makes SOME sort of sense. I guess.

All I know is that we have an obesity problem in this country, and it has nothing to do with Covid. And we're encouraging people to eat junk food by halving the cost.

Madness.

[Denver]

All I know is that we have an obesity problem in this country, and it has nothing to do with Covid. And we're encouraging people to eat junk food by halving the cost.

Madness.

You got the complete wrong end of the stick.

Its being done to save businesses and a nation wide obesity plan is being put into place for the first time

[user104658]

And we're encouraging people to eat junk food by halving the cost.


I'm totally convinced people won't even spend less, but that might be part of the idea, too... as a stimulus for the businesses.

"I'll have the 3-piece chicken meal please!"
"OK. It's 50% off this month so that'll be..."
"WAIT. I'll have the 6-piece chicken meal please, and make it a large :)"

[Livia]

I'm totally convinced people won't even spend less, but that might be part of the idea, too... as a stimulus for the businesses.

"I'll have the 3-piece chicken meal please!"
"OK. It's 50% off this month so that'll be..."
"WAIT. I'll have the 6-piece chicken meal please, and make it a large :)"

I agree! Someone inform Reuters....

[user104658]

You got the complete wrong end of the stick.

Its being done to save businesses and a nation wide obesity plan is being put into place for the first time

To be fair it does seem odd to be making already-cheap junk food cheaper at the same time as trying to tackle obesity. Honestly, 50% off things like KFC and McDonalds actually means that in August it will be CHEAPER to go to the drive-through for a family of 4 than to make a decent home cooked meal, which really is mad. Out for dinner to save money :think:.

That said, the junk food aspect is being focussed on quite heavily, it's really a bit of a technicality. Places like normal restaurants and little cafés etc. can also benefit (the little boutique cafe where I live is signed up, for example) ... but they can't really exclude fast food places. They are technically still restaurants.

[Livia]

You got the complete wrong end of the stick.

Its being done to save businesses and a nation wide obesity plan is being put into place for the first time

No I didn't....

The government is putting in place an anti-obesity plan, while halving the price of junk food. Seems a bit stupid to me.

[Denver]

No I didn't....

The government is putting in place an anti-obesity plan, while halving the price of junk food. Seems a bit stupid to me.

They can't just put discounts on restaurants that only serve salad you know

[Livia]

They can't just put discounts on restaurants that only serve salad you know

Why not?

[Denver]

Why not?

Because loads of restaurants are struggling for business and belive it or not most restaurants sell greasy fatty food

[Nicky91]

no one eat junkfood anymore, let all those businesses go bankrupt

and everyone start eating only healthy foods

[Denver]

no one eat junkfood anymore, let all those businesses go bankrupt

and everyone start eating only healthy foods

are you just trying to create drama this week?

Businesses going bankrupt means people losing their jobs

[Livia]

Because loads of restaurants are struggling for business and belive it or not most restaurants sell greasy fatty food

You must eat in some awful places.

Why not support healthy eating with discounts instead of supporting burgers, nuggets and chips?

[Denver]

You must eat in some awful places.

Why not support healthy eating with discounts instead of supporting burgers, nuggets and chips?

because when people go out for a meal they want it to taste nice

[Livia]

because when people go out for a meal they want it to taste nice

Food can taste nice without being bad for you. You understand that, right?

[MTVN]

Let the people eat what they please

[Niamh.]

Let the people eat what they please

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[Livia]

Let the people eat what they please


Then deny them NHS treatment when they have a stroke/ diabetes/ heart disease etc. etc.

Obesity costs the NHS more than smoking.

[Liam-]

If they want to get people eating healthier, healthy food should be cheaper than junk, a family of 4 with a single mother probably wouldn’t be able to fill the fridge up with fresh fruit and vegetables twice a week, it’s easier for people to eat badly when they can’t afford the good stuff.

[Denver]

Then deny them NHS treatment when they have a stroke/ diabetes/ heart disease etc. etc.

Obesity costs the NHS more than smoking.

Yes because the best way to tackle obesity is tell them they are worthless and not allowed free health care because they are not skinny

[Nicky91]

are you just trying to create drama this week?

Businesses going bankrupt means people losing their jobs

no, but there should just be a ban on junkfood now, and especially now Boris wants to tackle obesity in britain

sooo these businesses could try and advertise more healthier products, like the salad bars, and try to purchase fresh fruit and veg, i mean you gotta adapt to current times, i think fresh veg salad, fruit salad would sell also pretty well, especially now in summer time :)

[Liam-]

The nhs is for everyone, not just the healthy people who eat like rabbits

[Denver]

also what about the slim people who gain diabetes from to much sugar should they be treated? Or is it only fat people that should be banned

[Smithy]

Then deny them NHS treatment when they have a stroke/ diabetes/ heart disease etc. etc.

Obesity costs the NHS more than smoking.

Smoking is a choice a lot of factors plays into obesity

[Liam-]

Can just discuss Boris of all people urging people to eat better and be healthier :skull:

[Dogeatdog]

I’m actually quite happy I can get my junk food fix for a bit cheaper now :laugh: although I do find it quite odd that considering the government have said before that we’ve got an obesity problem in this country, they are not making any steps to make certain healthier foods cheaper as well. At the same time though I can imagine that this is very helpful to many low income families as well, who struggle to put food on the table especially if they’ve been on 80% of their wage for some time.

Not all families can afford to buy healthy foods and personally this is something I think that the government could’ve addressed here to help businesses as well.

[Denver]

I’m actually quite happy I can get my junk food fix for a bit cheaper now :laugh: although I do find it quite odd that considering the government have said before that we’ve got an obesity problem in this country, they are not making any steps to make certain healthier foods cheaper as well. At the same time though I can imagine that this is very helpful to many low income families as well, who struggle to put food on the table especially if they’ve been on 80% of their wage for some time.

Not all families can afford to buy healthy foods and personally this is something I think that the government could’ve addressed here to help businesses as well.

If more people wasnt snobby about Aldi and Lidl they would realise they could get fruit and veg for a cheaper price

[LukeB]

no one eat junkfood anymore, let all those businesses go bankrupt

and everyone start eating only healthy foods

This is not a nice thing to say, many people will lose their jobs and will struggle to put money on the table for their family. Mortgages, uniforms, rent, food shop and essential stuff doesn’t pay for it’s self.

[Glenn.]

Just let people eat what the **** they want for Christ sake

[Morgan.]

If more people wasnt snobby about Aldi and Lidl they would realise they could get fruit and veg for a cheaper price

I agree with this to an extent, but on a local level for me in particular the fruit and veg from Aldi and Lidl will only last a few days before turning, whereas fruit and veg from other shops such as Morrison’s keeps fresher for longer so we can actually buy all our fresh produce for a week in there, whereas if we went to Aldi or Lidl we would have to make 2, sometimes 3 separate trips.

Normally in a week we will get all of our cupboard and frozen produce from Aldi or Lidl and get all of our fresh produce and luxuries from Morrison’s or Asda.

[Liam-]

Just let people eat what the **** they want for Christ sake

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The things strangers eat is so far down on the pecking list of important things in this country

[Dogeatdog]

If more people wasnt snobby about Aldi and Lidl they would realise they could get fruit and veg for a cheaper price

I get this kinda but I do think there’re other things that come into it as well. A lot of families especially low income families need to make their shopping last a considerable amount of time. A carton of Tropicana is around £2.30 and that’s barely gonna last a couple days for a family whereas for the same price you could buy a couple of bottles of cola or Robinson’s or something and it will go further.

[Nicky91]

i never promote junkfood anyway, since it literally does its name justice, for being literal junk

worst thing for you out of all foods

[reece(:]

Some people can't afford these outlets often so it'll be nice that they can treat themselves.

[Ammi]

...I think the worst thing for you out of all foods is no food..?...no income/no food ...I know that’s an extreme but these businesses are struggling and if they don’t succeed then it’ll just add to those having no jobs and will struggle in buying any food...junk/or no junk...Obviously certain foods included in the scheme are by far not ideal in terms of health ...but nothing about the world atm is ideal and I think it’s just one step at a time...there has been many weeks when people haven’t been able to have these things...so hopefully they’ll be more ‘treats’ than a complete lifestyle, going forward...

[Ammi]

Some people can't afford these outlets often so it'll be nice that they can treat themselves.

...or what reece said, really..there’s that as well...I think people deserve a treat with all of the restrictions of late...

[Nicky91]

fair enough Ammi, also i personally rarely order food from any of those, only time is when we are on holiday and we don't like to cook ourselves

not that i do not eat ''junkfood'' but when we have fries we do bake them ourselves, now we are more onto frozen foods, due to bad potato quality overall

if potato quality is good, homemade fries of course

[user104658]

If more people wasnt snobby about Aldi and Lidl they would realise they could get fruit and veg for a cheaper priceCrap fruit and veg. And meat.

The reality of the cheaper prices at the bargain basement supermarkets is unfortunately that it is of lesser quality.

Meat is the worst offender, though.

[user104658]

...I think the worst thing for you out of all foods is no food..?...no income/no food ...I know that’s an extreme but these businesses are struggling and if they don’t succeed then it’ll just add to those having no jobs and will struggle in buying any food...junk/or no junk...Obviously certain foods included in the scheme are by far not ideal in terms of health ...but nothing about the world atm is ideal and I think it’s just one step at a time...there has been many weeks when people haven’t been able to have these things...so hopefully they’ll be more ‘treats’ than a complete lifestyle, going forward...I agree with that Ammi, nothing wrong with a bit of junk or a take-away as a treat, it doesn't do any harm if you're eating OK otherwise and keep active. Food is demonised more than it needs to be to be honest. Obviously over-eating (but that's of any kind of food) and eating NOTHING but junk is going to be bad, but the biggest offender in terms of health is sedentary lifestyle. People can be thin and unhealthy. People with a perfectly average BMI can have shocking cardiovascular fitness. Etc.

[Cherie]

It’s only going to last for 12 days so I doubt people are going to double their size in that time, it’s more about getting people confident to eat out rather than encouraging over eating as you have to eat in to avail I believe

[Ammi]

I agree with that Ammi, nothing wrong with a bit of junk or a take-away as a treat, it doesn't do any harm if you're eating OK otherwise and keep active. Food is demonised more than it needs to be to be honest. Obviously over-eating (but that's of any kind of food) and eating NOTHING but junk is going to be bad, but the biggest offender in terms of health is sedentary lifestyle. People can be thin and unhealthy. People with a perfectly average BMI can have shocking cardiovascular fitness. Etc.

...I think that many people are generally physically healthier atm as well with the once a day exercise through all of these months that some have been doing for the first time...so if junk food is on the menu, it’s a good time to have that balance...and I do think it’s a well deserved ‘feel good’ atm as well....and obviously helping the business/economy/employment...

[Nicky91]

but ok if businesses are struggling then lowering your prices is a smart move, what i said earlier i didn't mean (i am myself all caught up into the ''anti-fastfood'' mindset) but of course hope they manage to survive so those people can keep their jobs

[user104658]

It’s only going to last for 12 days so I doubt people are going to double their size in that time, it’s more about getting people confident to eat out rather than encouraging over eating as you have to eat in to avail I believe

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[Cherie]

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:joker:

[Barry.]

It’s only going to last for 12 days so I doubt people are going to double their size in that time, it’s more about getting people confident to eat out rather than encouraging over eating as you have to eat in to avail I believe

I read the vat is down for 6 months.

[Cherie]

I read the vat is down for 6 months.

That’s 15 per cent, Im referring to the 50% off, the vat reduction is on takeaways as well