Nigel Farage investigates illegal immigrants staying at luxury 4* star hotel

[Wizard.]

Paid for by the tax payer! I'm not being racist by posting this, but you'd think they might setup a little camp like in Calais, imprison them or if they're going to put them in hotels put them in a premier inn. I blame the incompetent government G5XKksiSgac

[Samm]

I stopped reading what you had to say at the “I’m not being racist” but narrative. You’re literally promoting this spineless worm. Anything he says or has any part in is fixed to his narrative.

[Wizard.]

I stopped reading what you had to say at the “I’m not being racist” but narrative. You’re literally promoting this spineless worm. Anything he says or has any part in is fixed to his narrative.

I preface it with that because mentioning Nigel Farage brings that label and yes he is racist I’m not saying he isn’t and I’m blaming the government to allow this to happen you shouldn’t come over in a rubber dingy and get put in a 4* hotel period.

[arista]

Yes its wrong they are in a 4* Expensive Hotel
that's costing money

[Marsh.]

I'm more bothered about the tax payer forking out on multiple homes for rich self serving politicians who use their power to help their mates.

[Liam-]

When the government wastes tens of millions of taxpayer money on useless coins and Brexit propaganda, this is like a drop in the ocean

[Oliver_W]

It is a but wasteful when there are cheaper hotels, tis true. But there are also bigger things to worry about. Plus, I doubt they're getting the "four star experience" tbh

I've never heard Farage be racist tho

[Samm]

I preface it with that because mentioning Nigel Farage brings that label and yes he is racist I’m not saying he isn’t and I’m blaming the government to allow this to happen you shouldn’t come over in a rubber dingy and get put in a 4* hotel period.

Oh no, yes you’re right immigrants who are mostly running away from war, should be placed in horrific conditions. While the government are wasting more of our money on their rich mates.

[Ammi]

.... I’m just going to copy and paste my post from the other ‘illegal immigrant’ thread..


...they’re not illegal, that hotel is one which is allocated to give sanctuary to asylum seekers, while their claims will either be processed or rejected...because of their circumstances in their homelands, they’re legally entitled to make a claim to sanctuary in the U.K....so not illegal at all...that’s the spin and slant that the media and the Farages would have you believe...

[Ammi]

.. will there ever come a time when it’s realised that agendas aimed to dehumanise prevail over truth...

[Nicky91]

Oh no, yes you’re right immigrants who are mostly running away from war, should be placed in horrific conditions. While the government are wasting more of our money on their rich mates.

let those rich people in britain be the ones who pay more taxes, cause the rich avoid their taxes, also how it goes down here in Netherlands, same in US where the super rich protect each other


immigrants who run away from wars, conflicts, corruption deserve a better life yes, and not any more horrible conditions

[Wizard.]

I'm more bothered about the tax payer forking out on multiple homes for rich self serving politicians who use their power to help their mates.

When the government wastes tens of millions of taxpayer money on useless coins and Brexit propaganda, this is like a drop in the ocean

Yes that’s also bad we shouldn’t be paying for that too glad you both agree with me

[Wizard.]

Oh no, yes you’re right immigrants who are mostly running away from war, should be placed in horrific conditions. While the government are wasting more of our money on their rich mates.

Maybe the government need to build more houses too because there’s homeless Britain’s living in bed and breakfasts I should know as my family were homeless when I was 10 years old and four of us lived in one b&b bedroom so it’s a bit of a kick in the teeth that these men are coming over living in these hotels.

[Wizard.]

.... I’m just going to copy and paste my post from the other ‘illegal immigrant’ thread..


...they’re not illegal, that hotel is one which is allocated to give sanctuary to asylum seekers, while their claims will either be processed or rejected...because of their circumstances in their homelands, they’re legally entitled to make a claim to sanctuary in the U.K....so not illegal at all...that’s the spin and slant that the media and the Farages would have you believe...

Maybe but then as above why are they given better living conditions that Britain’s homeless? Not entirely blaming the immigrants or asylum seekers it’s the governments ***** up and distaste for the poor.

[user104658]

Plus, I doubt they're getting the "four star experience" tbh


I think that's important to remember; hotels don't get their star ratings just based on the room itself, it's for the full service provided, facilities, food etc... The whole package. People put up there by the government are probably "on a cheap bulk deal" in the excess rooms they have available. They're getting a nice bed to sleep in, sure, but they're not getting a four-star-hotel experience and nor will the government be paying full price for the rooms.

[Liam-]

It’s like those places that offer holidays in The Sun, cheap holidays for people but they’re given the worst rooms and get the bare minimum experience, I’m personally glad our government seems to at least try to follow the law and treat these people like humans while they deal with the asylum claims

[user104658]

put them in a premier inn.

The irony of course is that a lot of the new Premier Inns I've stayed in have actually been a better experience than some four-stars I've been in :joker:. For a start, the new built ones all have aircon (which can be ESSENTIAL in a stuffy hotel room in summer) and good showers which are a big criteria for me. Some with stars can be beautiful but a little outdated in terms of modern comforts, IMO.

[Wizard.]

The irony of course is that a lot of the new Premier Inns I've stayed in have actually been a better experience than some four-stars I've been in :joker:. For a start, the new built ones all have aircon (which can be ESSENTIAL in a stuffy hotel room in summer) and good showers which are a big criteria for me. Some with stars can be beautiful but a little outdated in terms of modern comforts, IMO.

Still cheaper though, and I enjoyed staying in a travelodge for 2 weeks they clean your room for you :dance:

[Wizard.]

I just also have a problem with these people pushing the queue when there’s other asylum seekers who need refuge such as families but these guys cross the sea in tiny boats risking their lives and inspire others to do the same because obviously a hotel is better than a Calais camp which I’m aware no longer exists but obviously the hotel is more enticing.

[Ammi]

Maybe but then as above why are they given better living conditions that Britain’s homeless? Not entirely blaming the immigrants or asylum seekers it’s the governments ***** up and distaste for the poor.

...whilst it may be true that this hotel has a 4* rating, there will be many things/services that go to make that rating...and I doubt that the asylum seekers are being given all of those services...so to mislead with that, is very disingenuous...but that’s Nigel’s middle name, isn’t it...it’s what he is, it’s what he does...do we do enough for the homeless in this country...?...no, we absolutely don’t...but it’s not because of asylum seekers, that has no bearing at all on the funding put into homelessness, which is largely reliant on charities...

[Ammi]

I just also have a problem with these people pushing the queue when there’s other asylum seekers who need refuge such as families but these guys cross the sea in tiny boats risking their lives and inspire others to do the same because obviously a hotel is better than a Calais camp which I’m aware no longer exists but obviously the hotel is more enticing.

...we don’t know any of the details of an application so it’s impossible to say ‘who needs more than someone else...’...the decision makers have the information that we don’t...

[Wizard.]

...we don’t know any of the details of an application so it’s impossible to say ‘who needs more than someone else...’...the decision makers have the information that we don’t...

I just find it funny how the people defending the 4* hotel keep saying that they’re not receiving a 4* service (which how can you possibly know the conditions... the amount of people living their match the amount of rooms they have so we know they’re not living in a falling apart B&B with 4 people stuffed into a room with only a microwave to heat their food for 6 months like me and my family). Unless you live that experience you can’t defend a 4* star hotel by saying that not all 4* hotels are like the The Ritz

[Ammi]

I just find it funny how the people defending the 4* hotel keep saying that they’re not receiving a 4* service (which how can you possibly know the conditions... the amount of people living their match the amount of rooms they have so we know they’re not living in a falling apart B&B with 4 people stuffed into a room with only a microwave to heat their food for 6 months like me and my family). Unless you live that experience you can’t defend a 4* star hotel by saying that not all 4* hotels are like the The Ritz

...I’m truly sorry that, that’s what you and your family have experienced, Wizard...:hug:..And that your accommodation wasn’t more comfortable...

[Marsh.]

I just find it funny how the people defending the 4* hotel keep saying that they’re not receiving a 4* service (which how can you possibly know the conditions... the amount of people living their match the amount of rooms they have so we know they’re not living in a falling apart B&B with 4 people stuffed into a room with only a microwave to heat their food for 6 months like me and my family). Unless you live that experience you can’t defend a 4* star hotel by saying that not all 4* hotels are like the The Ritz

I find it funny that you're asking how can people possibly know when this thread is based on a lot of assumptions and not facts.

Then the added ridiculousness of you bringing a 5 star hotel into the discussion.

There are people living "The Ritz lifestyle" at the expense of the taxpayer but it's not asylum seekers.

[Wizard.]

I find it funny that you're asking how can people possibly know when this thread is based on a lot of assumptions and not facts.

Then the added ridiculousness of you bringing a 5 star hotel into the discussion.

There are people living "The Ritz lifestyle" at the expense of the taxpayer but it's not asylum seekers.

I’m sorry, other people are defending it by saying that basically “well a 4* hotel isn’t all that” which I find absolutely absurd and quite disturbing. And then you bring rich people into it who are living it up which isn’t really relevant. We should think about the people who might be disadvantaged by this I.e. the homeless and other asylum seekers and criticising the government for having no plan or place to put them.

[Marsh.]

I’m sorry, other people are defending it by saying that basically “well a 4* hotel isn’t all that” which I find absolutely absurd and quite disturbing. And then you bring rich people into it who are living it up which isn’t really relevant. We should think about the people who might be disadvantaged by this I.e. the homeless and other asylum seekers and criticising the government for having no plan or place to put them.

They didn't say 4* isn't all that. They said just because they're sleeping in a hotel room doesn't mean they're getting a 4* service.

How are rich politicians abusing their positions and wealth not relevant?

They're certainly more relevant than whatever Farage is trying to do by mocking asylum seekers. They have a room in a hotel oh how lucky they are!

It's obviously temporary accomodation until they're moved into permanent housing or are sent elsewhere.

[Oliver_W]

Like obviously we've got a housing crisis and a pretty high population density, so people should be being turned away - anyone landing here is a demonstration of several countries' failure to work their borders. Something obviously does need to be done to keep them away.

But in the meantime, they can't exactly be left to wander the wilderness.

[Liam-]

Politicians have a way of making people hate people who use taxpayer money to live, all while sitting in their second or third homes they claim on their taxes or their expenses

[Livia]

Maybe they need a sociologist to explain why illegals should be living in an hotel while there are sooooo maaaaaaanny indigenous people living on the street... many of them having served their country.

Don't bother calling me a racist for this view, I've heard it alllllll before on here.

[Marsh.]

Maybe they need a sociologist to explain why illegals should be living in an hotel while there are sooooo maaaaaaanny indigenous people living on the street... many of them having served their country.

Don't bother calling me a racist for this view, I've heard it alllllll before on here.

I don't think anyone's saying more shouldn't be done for the homeless.

Unless you're suggesting asylum seekers should be left to wander aimlessly? Which is a ridiculous consideration.

[Tom4784]

I won't watch anything fronted by that weasel, everything he does is to push his agenda and he is in support of implementing an insurance based healthcare system over the NHS because that's what the people who pay his bills wants him to preach to his ignorant masses.

[Nicky91]

Maybe they need a sociologist to explain why illegals should be living in an hotel while there are sooooo maaaaaaanny indigenous people living on the street... many of them having served their country.

Don't bother calling me a racist for this view, I've heard it alllllll before on here.

sort of truth in that Livia i guess, i'm not calling you a racist


however i should ask you this Liv, the children who are among the immigrants from war/conflict/corrupt countries they do deserve a better life, proper home, proper education, nice and safe way growing up

would you want them to live on a street then?

[Livia]

sort of truth in that Livia i guess, i'm not calling you a racist


however i should ask you this Liv, the children who are among the immigrants from war/conflict/corrupt countries they do deserve a better life, proper home, proper education, nice and safe way growing up

would you want them to live on a street then?

These hypothetical people you're talking about... how many countries did they cross to get to the UK?

[Liam-]

The rich and powerful make average people angry, bitter and jealous that less well off people get assistance, all while they rake in all the wealth they possibly can.

‘Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain’ comes to mind

Capitalism is rotting society from the inside out

[rusticgal]

Well I agree with Wizard...they should be accommodated in more basic accommodation...plenty of Travelodges/Novotels etc. They all offer good facilities until they get housed. We look after Asylum seekers...and as much sympathy I have for them its a shame when we have homeless people living on the streets who deserve better.

[Tom4784]

The rich and powerful make average people angry, bitter and jealous that less well off people get assistance, all while they rake in all the wealth they possibly can.

‘Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain’ comes to mind

Capitalism is rotting society from the inside out

Yup, it's a system that's been in place for generations and will be in place for generations more because the majority of people will take a shred of false superiority over improving things for everyone. Why take a stand for those on benefits? For the poor and infirm if you can't benefit from it? Better to look down on them from a few centimetres above them while ignoring the boot of the rich and powerful on your neck.

After all, life would be better without immigrants and the poor, and single mothers and.... whatever the Daily Mail blames the collapse on society on while defending the interests of the cancer that is at the root of all our societal issues.

[Cherie]

The elephant in the room is that while technically they are asylum seekers they paid traffickers to get them from a safe country to the UK, all young men as well, meanwhile, families with young kids and elderly people are living in refugee camps with no way out, if the UK is to help anyone it should be directly from refugee camps, France should be looking after these people or one of the numerous countries they travelled through

[Wizard.]

Well I agree with Wizard...they should be accommodated in more basic accommodation...plenty of Travelodges/Novotels etc. They all offer good facilities until they get housed. We look after Asylum seekers...and as much sympathy I have for them its a shame when we have homeless people living on the streets who deserve better.

The elephant in the room is that while technically they are asylum seekers they paid traffickers to get them from a safe country to the UK, all young men as well, meanwhile, families with young kids and elderly people are living in refugee camps with no way out, if the UK is to help anyone it should be directly from refugee camps, France should be looking after these people or one of the numerous countries they travelled through

here here :clap1: