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Denver
07-01-2021, 12:09 AM
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GiRTh
07-01-2021, 12:12 AM
about timex2
Just saw this on CNN. About time
DouglasS
07-01-2021, 12:17 AM
Don’t they have anything better to do?
Denver
07-01-2021, 12:18 AM
Don’t they have anything better to do?
Something better then protecting the world? No I don't think so
Denver
07-01-2021, 12:19 AM
Lin Wood has also been suspending so Twitter is starting to clean up
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/revealed-flood-of-twitter-users-back-paedophilia-qxjfddxv7
GiRTh
07-01-2021, 12:25 AM
Don’t they have anything better to do?Than protect their reputation? I would say no.
Regardless of what you may think of Twitter/Facebook etc et al. This needed to be done. Surely we can all agree that a head of state cannot spread confirmed lies in the way Donnie has done.
Why, is there something that needs to be hidden?
Jake.
07-01-2021, 12:40 AM
Long overdue.
Gstar
07-01-2021, 12:42 AM
^^ [2]
user104658
07-01-2021, 01:04 AM
Why, is there something that needs to be hidden?Yes, his repeated messages inciting rioting and violence.
Denver
07-01-2021, 01:35 AM
Facebook have now banned him for 24 hours
Glenn.
07-01-2021, 01:41 AM
Donald to take to tumblr instead?
Denver
07-01-2021, 02:09 AM
Now Instagram has banned him
Shaun
07-01-2021, 02:20 AM
Donald to take to tumblr instead?
Welcome to my twisted mind indeed
GiRTh
07-01-2021, 02:27 AM
Now Instagram has banned himFacebook too now.
Facebook too now.I heard Instagram too.
Looks like a coordinated attack by big tech on the President of the United States.
But don't worry, that's normal, nothing to see here, Orange man bad.
arista
07-01-2021, 07:56 AM
A day ban on Twitter,
not much loss for him.
A day ban on Twitter,
not much loss for him.
it's a lot more than that Arista, if he doesn't remove the posts he wont be reinstated, if he tweets again on the same subject it will be a permanent ban
arista
07-01-2021, 08:10 AM
it's a lot more than that Arista, if he doesn't remove the posts he wont be reinstated, if he tweets again on the same subject it will be a permanent ban
Sting in the tail.
https://news.sky.com/story/twitter-and-facebook-lock-donald-trump-accounts-after-posts-to-rioting-supporters-12181121
Nicky91
07-01-2021, 08:16 AM
good, time to get rid of all far right morons from social media
like that they can't provoke violence and rioting anymore
Nicky91
07-01-2021, 10:05 AM
https://twitter.com/LozzaFox/status/1346983335885619203
oh bore off Lozza loser :idc:
user104658
07-01-2021, 10:30 AM
I heard Instagram too.
Looks like a coordinated attack by big tech on the President of the United States.
But don't worry, that's normal, nothing to see here, Orange man bad.It's tech companies realising that their platforms have been used to sow the seeds of insurrection for years and now the sitting president of the United States is openly inciting violence on them, which is not a sustainable situation.
Basically, they know if they don't make internal efforts to stop their platforms being used in this way, they are likely to face heavy external regulation.
Also they are private companies so it is entirely their business who they choose to allow on the platform. They are not public services :idc:.
It's tech companies realising that their platforms have been used to sow the seeds of insurrection for years and now the sitting president of the United States is openly inciting violence on them, which is not a sustainable situation.
Basically, they know if they don't make internal efforts to stop their platforms being used in this way, they are likely to face heavy external regulation.
Also they are private companies so it is entirely their business who they choose to allow on the platform. They are not public services :idc:."Openly inciting violence?"
My eyes are telling me the opposite.
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user104658
07-01-2021, 11:00 AM
"Openly inciting violence?"
My eyes are telling me the opposite.
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Then you were asleep last night when he was talking about "sacred elections being unlawfully stolen" and referring to insurrectionists as "patriots who have been treated badly". Oh and calling those who oppose them "evil". There are videos as well. I'm sure you'll disingenuously pretend to not be able to read between the lines of what he's saying, or maybe you really can't, but your pretence and/or genuine failure of critical thinking isn't really anyone else's problem Alf.
Tom4784
07-01-2021, 02:39 PM
I'm sure he'll find a home on Parler with the rest of the right wing snowflakes that can't abide by the rules they agreed to follow.
Right Wing nutjobs just don't realise that they aren't entitled to other people's platforms. Social Media is not our platform to do with what we will. It's a loaned platform owned by other people that allow us to use it if we follow their rules. Acting like your freedom of speech is under attack because you broke the rules and got banned is pure childishness.
arista
07-01-2021, 02:47 PM
CNN HD Live
Trump has Deleted all the Tweets required
to open his account
The Slim Reaper
07-01-2021, 02:48 PM
Not allowed to tweet, but allowed to be in charge of enough nukes to end the planet many times over.
I'm sure he'll find a home on Parler with the rest of the right wing snowflakes that can't abide by the rules they agreed to follow.
Right Wing nutjobs just don't realise that they aren't entitled to other people's platforms. Social Media is not our platform to do with what we will. It's a loaned platform owned by other people that allow us to use it if we follow their rules. Acting like your freedom of speech is under attack because you broke the rules and got banned is pure childishness.
It's a haven for paedophiles...
Tom4784
07-01-2021, 03:09 PM
It's a haven for paedophiles...
Ever notice that when a platform does something the right wing doesn't like, they almost always try to smear it by saying something related to peadophilia?
Are there peadophiles on social media? Most definitely, are they protected or safeguarded? No, they are not, they get banned and their details passed on to the authorities.
Calling something a haven for peadophiles just because they banned your guy is just pure malicious childishness.
Ever notice that when a platform does something the right wing doesn't like, they almost always try to smear it by saying something related to peadophilia?
Are there peadophiles on social media? Most definitely, are they protected or safeguarded? No, they are not, they get banned and their details passed on to the authorities.
Calling something a haven for peadophiles just because they banned your guy is just pure malicious childishness.
Read the link I posted
arista
07-01-2021, 03:15 PM
Not allowed to tweet, but allowed to be in charge of enough nukes to end the planet many times over.
Its the way the USA Politics works
Our change of Leader
is Fast.
Denver
07-01-2021, 04:08 PM
He has been permanently banned from Facebook and Instagram and so will people within his campaign
arista
07-01-2021, 04:22 PM
He has been permanently banned from Facebook and Instagram and so will people within his campaign
Yes until the peaceful Transfer of power.
The Slim Reaper
07-01-2021, 04:22 PM
Its the way the USA Politics works
Our change of Leader
is Fast.
The bloody dems again, no doubt. :fist:
Captain.Remy
07-01-2021, 04:23 PM
He has been permanently banned from Facebook and Instagram and so will people within his campaign
At least until January 20th apparently.
Cherie
07-01-2021, 04:23 PM
Yes until the peaceful Transfer of power.
So which is it, temporary or permanent :suspect:
Denver
07-01-2021, 04:27 PM
At least until January 20th apparently.
That's what they say but they will never give him his profile back
Mystic Mock
07-01-2021, 04:28 PM
To me it doesn't matter if Trump were a Republican or Democrat, inciting a crowd because he lost the Election to Biden should see him receive jail time imo.
If one of us on here was causing what Trump's caused we'd be sent to Prison, so fair's fair Trump needs to face the consequences of his actions.
And I honestly think that the Trump supporters that attended that terrorist activity yesterday haven't even thought about how they've damaged the Republican Party's reputation for the foreseeable future.
Him and some of his supporters have made the Party look like an American version of the EDL, they should be ashamed of themselves.
Denver
07-01-2021, 04:29 PM
To me it doesn't matter if Trump were a Republican or Democrat, inciting a crowd because he lost the Election to Biden should see him receive jail time imo.
If one of us on here was causing what Trump's caused we'd be sent to Prison, so fair's fair Trump needs to face the consequences of his actions.
And I honestly think that the Trump supporters that attended that terrorist activity yesterday haven't even thought about how they've damaged the Republican Party's reputation for the foreseeable future.
Him and some of his supporters have made the Party look like an American version of the EDL, they should be ashamed of themselves.
Trumo has proved he is a terrorist and he will face the full law because of it
Crimson Dynamo
07-01-2021, 04:33 PM
oh no
Its more serious than we thought...:omgno:
https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5113&stc=1&d=1610037158
Mystic Mock
07-01-2021, 04:34 PM
Trumo has proved he is a terrorist and he will face the full law because of it
:fc: That he will face the consequences.
The Slim Reaper
07-01-2021, 04:34 PM
Trump trying to get followers on MySpace and LinkedIn
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErJHNGVW8AAfx-y?format=jpg&name=small
Nicky91
07-01-2021, 04:36 PM
Trump trying to get followers on MySpace and LinkedIn
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErJHNGVW8AAfx-y?format=jpg&name=small
inbefore Trump tries to gain followers via OnlyFans
:joker:
The Slim Reaper
07-01-2021, 04:40 PM
inbefore Trump tries to gain followers via OnlyFans
:joker:
Not Nicky signing up for his snapchat package :smug:
Mystic Mock
07-01-2021, 04:50 PM
Trump trying to get followers on MySpace and LinkedIn
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErJHNGVW8AAfx-y?format=jpg&name=small
:joker:
Not allowed to tweet, but allowed to be in charge of enough nukes to end the planet many times over.Don't worry, he's not a power hungry politician, he's into peace and making America great. He won't be starting any wars like Biden and Harris would have, not even in his second term.
Denver
07-01-2021, 06:57 PM
Twitter has extended it to 2 weeks
Crimson Dynamo
07-01-2021, 06:59 PM
an M21 tea
Mitchell
07-01-2021, 07:03 PM
Good
GoodEventually they will come for you. That is your destiny.
The Slim Reaper
07-01-2021, 07:26 PM
Eventually they will come for you. That is your destiny.
Who were the first they came for in that poem?
Who were the first they came for in that poem?I think it was Tommy.
Mitchell
07-01-2021, 09:01 PM
Eventually they will come for you. That is your destiny.
If I fuelled and organised a domestic terrorist attack, I would deserve more being banned from social media...
The Slim Reaper
07-01-2021, 09:03 PM
https://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/customavatars/avatar63496_40.gif
Mystic Mock
07-01-2021, 09:21 PM
an M21 tea
:joker:
Elliot
07-01-2021, 11:20 PM
Eventually they will come for you. That is your destiny.
Tbh I’ve been s worded on Twitter like 3 times and I’m perfectly fine o.O life is bigger than Twitter
James
08-01-2021, 08:20 AM
This whole voting conspiracy would never have gained the attention it has if it wasn't for Twitter.
Twitter is such a bad platform for politics. It was originally only ever meant to be a micro-blogging site where people would write a line or two about what they'd been up to.
we should have a betting thread on how long it will be until Trump is banned on twitter again. There is no way he will be able to contain himself for long
My bet is 11am eastern time
This whole voting conspiracy would never have gained the attention it has if it wasn't for Twitter.
Twitter is such a bad platform for politics. It was originally only ever meant to be a micro-blogging site where people would write a line or two about what they'd been up to.You can't blame twitter for peoples suspicions. The empty Joe Biden rallies compared to Trump's heaving rallies, made them suspicious. Hundreds of eye witnesses testimonies of cheating made them suspicious. The fact that at the end of election night Trump was well in front and when America woke up the next day, Biden was in front, that made them suspicious. The fact Trump improved his 2016 votes by over 11 million, that made them suspicious. The fact Trump improved his vote all over the country except for them few key states in question, that made them suspicious. The fact that every election statitic besides the final result says that Trump won, that made them suspicious.
But if it's easier to ignore all that and just say it was Twitters fault, then go ahead.
GiRTh
08-01-2021, 05:26 PM
You can't blame twitter for peoples suspicions. The empty Joe Biden rallies compared to Trump's heaving rallies, made them suspicious. Hundreds of eye witnesses testimonies of cheating made them suspicious. The fact that at the end of election night Trump was well in front and when America woke up the next day, Biden was in front, that made them suspicious. The fact Trump improved his 2016 votes by over 11 million, that made them suspicious. The fact Trump improved his vote all over the country except for them few key states in question, that made them suspicious. The fact that every election statitic besides the final result says that Trump won, that made them suspicious.
But if it's easier to ignore all that and just say it was Twitters fault, then go ahead.Can you further explain the bit in bold because I have no idea what you're on about. Everything else you mentioned is not suspicious. :shrug:
Can you further explain the bit in bold because I have no idea what you're on about. Everything else you mentioned is not suspicious. :shrug:Trump increased his numbers in every single state from his 2016 results, except for the 5 or
6 six that were in question. Certain states are won were it's said that whoever wins that state, it will pretty much tell you who will win the election, Trump won those states.
Ramsay
08-01-2021, 05:33 PM
Trump had more people at his rallies because his supporters didnt take covid as serious at democrats who would be more inclined to stay at home instead of going to a stupid rally.
Again, democrats were more likely to vote with the mail in ballots over going to vote in person. Trump told his supporters to vote in person so those votes were counted first and THEN the mail in. This is basic stuff Alf.
Can you further explain the bit in bold because I have no idea what you're on about. Everything else you mentioned is not suspicious. :shrug:They are suspicious to some. Maybe not somebody who wanted the Democrats to win, but other observers do think, eye eye, this looks a bit dodgy.
LTrump had more people at his rallies because his supporters didnt take covid as serious at democrats who would be more inclined to stay at home instead of going to a stupid rally.
Again, democrats were more likely to vote with the mail in ballots over going to vlpote in person. Trump told his supporters to vote in person so those votes were counted first and THEN the mail in. This is basic stuff Alf.Do you have proof of that, did you interview all Democrat voters and ask them how they voted? Just because Trump asked his voters in person, does this mean that is what happened? Have you interviewed every Trump voter to find out if that's true?
Ramsay
08-01-2021, 05:38 PM
Do you have proof of that, did you interview all Democrat voters and ask them how they voted?
You're in complete denial
The Slim Reaper
08-01-2021, 05:40 PM
You can't blame twitter for peoples suspicions. The empty Joe Biden rallies compared to Trump's heaving rallies, made them suspicious. Hundreds of eye witnesses testimonies of cheating made them suspicious. The fact that at the end of election night Trump was well in front and when America woke up the next day, Biden was in front, that made them suspicious. The fact Trump improved his 2016 votes by over 11 million, that made them suspicious. The fact Trump improved his vote all over the country except for them few key states in question, that made them suspicious. The fact that every election statitic besides the final result says that Trump won, that made them suspicious.
But if it's easier to ignore all that and just say it was Twitters fault, then go ahead.
I completely agree that blaming twitter is really bizarre, especially considering that FB exists as the platform of choice for the far right. There is also Parler - the far right twitter, but most importantly, what fox news and OANN have been smashing into Americans eyes and ears for years.
Trump didn't win by much in 2016 against what the right keeps calling a historically bad candidate with EMAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You keep repeating "orange man bad," so you know as well as anyone what the majority thinks of him, and that resulted in election defeat.
GiRTh
08-01-2021, 05:41 PM
Trump increased his numbers in every single state from his 2016 results, except for the 5 or
6 six that were in question. Certain states are won were it's said that whoever wins that state, it will pretty much tell you who will win the election, Trump won those states.Not that bit, that's not suspicious. That every statistic stated trump won. Not one that ';ve looked at declared Trump the winner.
You're in complete denialThat's not an argument, that's just an insult of a forum member.
The Slim Reaper
08-01-2021, 05:42 PM
LDo you have proof of that, did you interview all Democrat voters and ask them how they voted? Just because Trump asked his voters in person, does this mean that is what happened? Have you interviewed every Trump voter to find out if that's true?
Let's just say for a second you're right about the rallies. Biden could turn out 10 or 20, and Trump could turn out 10-20k and it wasn't because of covid, you still understand that you are still able to vote if you don't attend a rally?
Mystic Mock
08-01-2021, 05:43 PM
This whole voting conspiracy would never have gained the attention it has if it wasn't for Twitter.
Twitter is such a bad platform for politics. It was originally only ever meant to be a micro-blogging site where people would write a line or two about what they'd been up to.
Tbf to Twitter if it wasn't around then Trump would've used places like Fox News to spread the voter fraud conspiracy theory to his voters and we still would've come to a similar outcome sadly.
Twitter is not responsible for Trump or his supporters behaviour imo.
user104658
08-01-2021, 05:43 PM
You can't blame twitter for peoples suspicions. The empty Joe Biden rallies compared to Trump's heaving rallies, made them suspicious.
Because Trump rallies were full of uneducated Covid deniers.
Hundreds of eye witnesses testimonies of cheating made them suspicious.
Nonsense totally debunked in dozens of courts, a lie that took hold... Oh yes... On social media.
The fact that at the end of election night Trump was well in front and when America woke up the next day, Biden was in front, that made them suspicious.] Because of urban areas (heavily democrat traditionally) and postal votes (see above re: uneducated Covid deniers) were counted last. This was even PREDICTED by political commentators before it happened.
The fact Trump improved his 2016 votes by over 11 million, that made them suspicious. The fact Trump improved his vote all over the country except for them few key states in question, that made them suspicious.
In an election with overall record turnout. Some sort of bizarre comprehension failure that makes people think that Trump getting more votes than the last time when he won must mean he won again, failing to comprehend that - believe it or not - the opposing candidate ALSO got proportionately more votes.
The fact that every election statitic besides the final result says that Trump won, that made them suspicious. No they don't, and you're only saying that because you've heard other conspiracy theorists saying it. If you actually HAVE those statistics, by all means, post them.
But if it's easier to ignore all that and just say it was Twitters fault, then go ahead.
Conspiracy theories like all of the above have always existed in politics. Twitter and Facebook have allowed something that used to be vaguely humorous to go mainstream and stop being funny in any way, because massive numbers of people have been sucked into this pantomime causing huge, real problems.
Again, sadly, Alf has started blocking anyone who wants to debunk the things he's saying and is happier existing in an echo chamber where they're just "the facts". Which really says it all.
Who is responsible for the riots all year long, the burning down of cities, the taking over cities.
What I'm asking is, who radicalised the left?
GiRTh
08-01-2021, 05:47 PM
Alf, Biden won Georgia, Pennsylvania, Arizona - Called early by Fox news too - and West Virginia. The only swing state Trump won was Florida and that traditionally goes Republican anyway. Where are getting this stuff from?
The Slim Reaper
08-01-2021, 05:47 PM
Who is responsible for the riots all year long, the burning down of cities, the taking over cities.
What I'm asking is, who radicalised the left?
Are we not talking about how the election was stolen anymore?
Are we not talking about how the election was stolen anymore?I thought we was talking about who's been radicalised by Twitter propaganda?
Who was radicalising the remoaners when they wouldn't accept the 2016 referendum result?
Mystic Mock
08-01-2021, 05:50 PM
Who is responsible for the riots all year long, the burning down of cities, the taking over cities.
What I'm asking is, who radicalised the left?
Tbf who's saying that the left doesn't have psychotic twats within their ranks?:laugh:
Alf, Biden won Georgia, Pennsylvania, Arizona - Called early by Fox news too - and West Virginia. The only swing state Trump won was Florida and that traditionally goes Republican anyway. Where are getting this stuff from?He didn't win any of them on election day. People went to bed with Trump winning them all, and woke up the next morning to find out he was losing them all.
user104658
08-01-2021, 05:52 PM
I completely agree that blaming twitter is really bizarre, especially considering that FB exists as the platform of choice for the far right. There is also Parler - the far right twitter, but most importantly, what fox news and OANN have been smashing into Americans eyes and ears for years.
I don't know. Twitter, importantly, is TRUMP'S tool of choice and that's what has made it play an integral role. Yes the news channels and other news sources have spread his chaotic seed around but he sows them with tweets. The radio silence since his account was suspended is really illuminating.
Also on a secondary level - the nonsensical pro-Trump bot activity on Twitter during election day and the following day was unprecedented, I followed a lot of it first hand and I've never seen anything like it. Genuinely chilling glimpse at bona-fide misinformation warfare.
GiRTh
08-01-2021, 05:52 PM
He didn't win any of them on election day. People went to bed with Trump winning them all, and woke up the next morning to find out he was losing them all.And? :shrug:
user104658
08-01-2021, 05:52 PM
Who is responsible for the riots all year long, the burning down of cities, the taking over cities.
What I'm asking is, who radicalised the left?Also social media.
Was listening to Femi radicalising remoaners?
Mystic Mock
08-01-2021, 05:54 PM
I thought we was talking about who's been radicalised by Twitter propaganda?
Who was radicalising the remoaners when they wouldn't accept the 2016 referendum result?
The result that was meant to be advisory and practically ended 50-50 was always gonna cause controversy.
The guy that loses by a landslide inciting violence and trying to destroy democracy is far worse than remainers moaning about a neck and neck Referendum.
The Slim Reaper
08-01-2021, 05:54 PM
I thought we was talking about who's been radicalised by Twitter propaganda?
Who was radicalising the remoaners when they wouldn't accept the 2016 referendum result?
Post that stuff in the EU referendum thread and I'll answer them for you.
And? :shrug:Has that ever happened in US election history?
user104658
08-01-2021, 05:55 PM
He didn't win any of them on election day. People went to bed with Trump winning them all, and woke up the next morning to find out he was losing them all."I went to the footie last week and my team was winning 2-1 at half time and I was so pleased we had done so well and I left. When I got home I turned on the telly and they had LOST 2-3!! That is impossible! Why was the other team cheating so much smh."
Post that stuff in the EU referendum thread and I'll answer them for you.Whatever your answer is, I can just say that you're in denial, and I think I win with that argument. I think that's how it works.
user104658
08-01-2021, 05:56 PM
Has that ever happened in US election history?States have looked like they were going one way and then flipped towards the end, yes. As recently as Gore/Bush.
The Slim Reaper
08-01-2021, 05:56 PM
The left is so radical and powerful that US has a centre right dem president, and tories have an 80 seat majority with a right wing labour leader talking more about being tough on crime than ending poverty. I'd love to see nothing more than an energised actual radical left fighting for justice but it doesn't exist.
James
08-01-2021, 05:57 PM
I completely agree that blaming twitter is really bizarre, especially considering that FB exists as the platform of choice for the far right. There is also Parler - the far right twitter, but most importantly, what fox news and OANN have been smashing into Americans eyes and ears for years.
Trump didn't win by much in 2016 against what the right keeps calling a historically bad candidate with EMAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You keep repeating "orange man bad," so you know as well as anyone what the majority thinks of him, and that resulted in election defeat.Twitter is the platform that Trump personally uses, and has his unfiltered views - unlike when a politician puts out a press release and a spokesperson will edit it.
GiRTh
08-01-2021, 05:58 PM
Has that ever happened in US election history?As I recall in 2016, it was close then in about a three hour period Trump not only pulled ahead but won out right. IT happens all the time :shrug:
As I recall in 2016, it was close then in about a three hour period Trump not only pulled ahead but won out right. IT happens all the time :shrug:I think you're gonna be proved wrong.
The Slim Reaper
08-01-2021, 06:04 PM
Twitter is the platform that Trump personally uses, and has his unfiltered views - unlike when a politician puts out a press release and a spokesperson will edit it.
He's on all platforms, mostly fox news and twitter was the one platform the crazies don't actually like, because they get banned. I just think blaming twitter is an easy way out. I don't doubt it played a role, but only in conjunction with, and not exclusive of, the other platforms.
Do I think if twitter had never existed and all other media/social media did, what happened would have still happened? Yeah, absolutely.
GiRTh
08-01-2021, 06:06 PM
I think you're gonna be proved wrong.Ok if you say so but I doubt it.
Even the Eu referendum, Farage made what sounded a lot like a concession speech late in the day then changed his tune in the morning when we found out the result. This idea that because one candidate was ahead but didnt win means it was rigged is as flimsy as it gets.
James
08-01-2021, 06:15 PM
Trump increased his numbers in every single state from his 2016 results, except for the 5 or
6 six that were in question. Certain states are won were it's said that whoever wins that state, it will pretty much tell you who will win the election, Trump won those states.He increased his vote count in every state (with the higher turnout), not just the ones that weren't questioned.
He's on all platforms, mostly fox news and twitter was the one platform the crazies don't actually like, because they get banned. I just think blaming twitter is an easy way out. I don't doubt it played a role, but only in conjunction with, and not exclusive of, the other platforms.
Do I think if twitter had never existed and all other media/social media did, what happened would have still happened? Yeah, absolutely.
twitter as a medium is much more immediate and focussed than phone in ramblings on a news channel. People have a chance to read it over and over. Twitter is a much more effective platform for radicalisation than tv will ever be
Social media is the people getting a voice and anything can happen. Mainstream media is a controlled narrative. Controlled by privliged people who want to keep their privlige in tact.
The Slim Reaper
08-01-2021, 06:31 PM
twitter as a medium is much more immediate and focussed than phone in ramblings on a news channel. People have a chance to read it over and over. Twitter is a much more effective platform for radicalisation than tv will ever be
It really isn't. It's one of the worst platforms for any discussion because of it's very nature. FB is basically a right wing militia site, so it just shows a stunning lack of understanding.
Couldn't stand Facebook, haven't been on there for years. Don't do Instagram. Parler is like using an old typewriter in the modern age. Twitter and this forum is the only platforms I use,
The Slim Reaper
08-01-2021, 06:40 PM
I take it back :smug:
I take it back :smug:
:laugh:
GoldHeart
08-01-2021, 06:59 PM
Trump's latest speech is the most slimy backpedaling I've ever seen.
He's the cause of all the violence , now all of a sudden he's going back on that. Well it's too little too late, and he's only doing it as a pr stunt so he can run again in 2024 which I don't even want to think about.
Trump's latest speech is the most slimy backpedaling I've ever seen.
He's the cause of all the violence , now all of a sudden he's going back on that. Well it's too little too late, and he's only doing it as a pr stunt so he can run again in 2024 which I don't even want to think about.Seeing how you so easily identified Trump as the cause of the hour long violence, could you tell me who was the cause of the years long violence all over Democrat run cities in America? Who was the cause of the riots, the burning down of peoples business's, the pulling down of statues, the killings, the shootings, the invading of land?
GoldHeart
08-01-2021, 08:09 PM
Seeing how you so easily identified Trump as the cause of the hour long violence, could you tell me who was the cause of the years long violence all over Democrat run cities in America? Who was the cause of the riots, the burning down of peoples business's, the pulling down of statues, the killings, the shootings, the invading of land?
How long have you got ?? .
From day 1 Trump has done more damage than good ,and that's an understatement . The amount of lies alone that come out his mouth is disturbing ,and he's still doing it :facepalm: .
Denver
08-01-2021, 11:23 PM
Hundreds of Twitter employees have sent letters to Jack Dorsey asking for the permanent ban of Trump
Denver
08-01-2021, 11:28 PM
Twitter has just permanently suspended him
GiRTh
08-01-2021, 11:29 PM
Twitter has just permanently suspended him:dance::dance::dance:
i knew it wouldnt take long
Ramsay
08-01-2021, 11:29 PM
Excellent news
Tells me Trumps on the front foot and they're in panic mode.
Scarlett.
08-01-2021, 11:33 PM
He'll prolly run off the that Parler circlejerk place
https://i.imgur.com/oyjLYHt.png
Denver
08-01-2021, 11:35 PM
He'll prolly run off the that Parler circlejerk place
Apple has gave them 24 hours to clean the site up and moderate it or it will be banned on all of its devices
Scarlett.
08-01-2021, 11:36 PM
Apple has gave them 24 hours to clean the site up and moderate it or it will be banned on all of its devices
Good to hear!
Jack_
08-01-2021, 11:36 PM
Lol and now Apple have given Parler an ultimatum
MAGA tears everywhere
Lol and now Apple have given Parler an ultimatum
MAGA tears everywhereThe message here is, don't try challenging the billionaires in the free market, because they will shut you down, because they run things, not you. Now get back to work for us for your minimum wage.
Scarlett.
08-01-2021, 11:47 PM
The message here is, don't try challenging the billionaires in the free market, because they will shut you down, because they run things, not you. Now get back to work for us for your minimum wage.
No the message is, don't be a ****in Nazi
SherzyK
08-01-2021, 11:49 PM
No the message is, don't be a ****in Nazi
https://media.tenor.com/images/e9d540cb42c5fed5fd8c4f7ceeafb212/tenor.gif
Dan Bongino owns Parler.
He's a person of colour who has cancer.
And now is labelled a Nazi by Tibb members.
Scarlett.
08-01-2021, 11:54 PM
Dan Bongino owns Parler.
He's a Black man who has cancer.
And now is labelled a Nazi by Tibb members.
His skin colour has no bearing on what kind of person he is :shrug:
user104658
08-01-2021, 11:56 PM
His skin colour has no bearing on what kind of person he is :shrug:True, but Nazis can't get cancer so I guess he's right :think:.
nazi MAGA smelly losers LOST! we will be collecting tears tonight
https://www.icegif.com/wp-content/uploads/oprah-winfrey-surprised.gif
reece(:
09-01-2021, 12:05 AM
Good riddance! We CELEBRATING!
https://i.imgur.com/iDg2SPa.gif
Denver
09-01-2021, 12:09 AM
Guys we are now all have more followers then the president of the USA
Denver
09-01-2021, 12:38 AM
They are also removing people around him and YouTube has permanently banned Steve Bannon
Denver
09-01-2021, 12:45 AM
Looks like Google has Parler from the app store
The information wars are reaching the climax. Maybe we're gonna find out what that Space force, which Trump built, is all about?
Will the Internet go down?
Black Dagger
09-01-2021, 12:56 AM
Lol. End those smelly MAGAs
LaLaLand
09-01-2021, 01:23 AM
Genuinely me seeing this on the news earlier :joker: :
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7535aa04ee032b1ec0da8fc2e9f14af9f6ea52a9e7686a9cbd ab5f718b9509ed.jpg
Scarlett.
09-01-2021, 01:25 AM
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LaLaLand
09-01-2021, 01:27 AM
I feel like inauguration day could be a bloodbath on the streets genuinely. Horrible.
...a good day for social media to remove someone who encourages domestic terrorism in their country...the beginning of the return to democracy and state leadership...America finally becoming great again...
This new twitter member looks familiar, but I can't quite put my finger on it.
1347810693622460416
arista
09-01-2021, 08:02 AM
Yes Twitter
takes a gamble on a full forever ban.
Maybe his Son will take over, on Twitter ?
arista
09-01-2021, 08:03 AM
I feel like inauguration day could be a bloodbath on the streets genuinely. Horrible.
But more Police will protect that area.
...he shows no care at all for the loss of life in the name of his ego ...he actively encourages actions that could lead to loss of lives...such is his thought for human...
the thing is Twitter has stood back for years and let Trump spout all sorts of atrocious bile, it's no coincidence that all the social media firms have waited until he is on his way out the door before acting. Also, they are now worried that they will be held responsible themselves if something further happens (and i am certain it will)
So, upshot, good he is no longer available on those platforms, but they should have acted a long time ago and forced the discussion around hate speech and misinformation
the thing is Twitter has stood back for years and let Trump spout all sorts of atrocious bile, it's no coincidence that all the social media firms have waited until he is on his way out the door before acting. Also, they are now worried that they will be held responsible themselves if something further happens (and i am certain it will)
So, upshot, good he is no longer available on those platforms, but they should have acted a long time ago and forced the discussion around hate speech and misinformation
...I don’t do Twitter or any social media...but it would make sense that it’s allowed because of ‘the buzz’ it creates to allow this type of thing and it gets people/users spending time on there..I don’t personally think that Twitter would ‘be afraid’ of any responsibility, more that they feel more confident to ban him because he’s just a troll in an expensive suit now, rather than having such power he’s had...
Nicky91
09-01-2021, 08:49 AM
i don't have twitter myself either, just use it as a guest to look up the news easier than with hundreds of adverts in tabloids nowadays
thesheriff443
09-01-2021, 09:06 AM
The problems in America did not start with trump and they will not end with trump.
Just a chapter in a book that’s still being written.
He's going to end up on here, isn't he.
Cherie
09-01-2021, 09:16 AM
He's going to end up on here, isn't he.
:laugh:
He is looking at setting up his own platform :worry:
Nicky91
09-01-2021, 09:18 AM
:laugh:
He is looking at setting up his own platform :worry:
lol, a platform for the neo-nazi far right
which i'll happily pretend it doesn't exist
He's going to end up on here, isn't he.
The only place he won’t be banned..
Oliver_W
09-01-2021, 10:25 AM
Just so we're clear, Twitter allows the following to post without question:
Antifa
Jihadists
The Ayatollah
Chinese propagandists
BLM
... all of whom routinely promote and encourage mass terrorism and violence, but they ban the President of the US for telling people to go home.
Nicky91
09-01-2021, 10:39 AM
Just so we're clear, Twitter allows the following to post without question:
Antifa
Jihadists
The Ayatollah
Chinese propagandists
BLM
... all of whom routinely promote and encourage mass terrorism and violence, but they ban the President of the US for telling people to go home.
no they don't
Smithy
09-01-2021, 10:44 AM
Just so we're clear, Twitter allows the following to post without question:
Antifa
Jihadists
The Ayatollah
Chinese propagandists
BLM
... all of whom routinely promote and encourage mass terrorism and violence, but they ban the President of the US for telling people to go home.
In what world does BLM promote terrorism
Just so we're clear, Twitter allows the following to post without question:
Antifa
Jihadists
The Ayatollah
Chinese propagandists
BLM
... all of whom routinely promote and encourage mass terrorism and violence, but they ban the President of the US for telling people to go home.
...if that’s true, that those groups are encouraging mass terrorism and violence on their account...then it’s to report them, report the specific dangerous posts where they do that...not be of a mindset of, well that’s okay for other to do the same, then...there is no logic or sense at all in that mindset...
user104658
09-01-2021, 10:57 AM
Just so we're clear, Twitter allows the following to post without question:
Antifa
Jihadists
The Ayatollah
Chinese propagandists
BLM
I agree that anyone who either explicitly or implicitly encourages violent uprising should be removed, however...
but they ban the President of the US for telling people to go home.
I don't think you're dumb enough to actually believe this so why be disingenuous? He was "subtly" (as subtle as a MAGA sign through a glass window) encouraging it all day on the day whilst pretending that he didn't agree with the violence (only to then hint again that he thought they were patriots doing the right thing), and only switched to "condemning it" at the last second in a last-minute effort to benefit himself.
I just don't believe that anyone can watch those videos of him smirking and gloating on the 6th and trul believe that he wasn't encouraging it, nor can his posts on the days leading up be seen as anything other than a call-to-arms MAGA dogwhistle. The latter, I think he was even still doing in that "condemnation" speech.
they were planning to execute Pelosi and Pence on Wednesday, by hanging them on the gallows they had erected complete with noose. Meanwhile Trump was excitedly watching them on the TV having stirred this up for weeks and then refused to authorise federal forces to help the police out.
https://i.imgur.com/4LkZrxY.png
This has nothing to do with any other perpetrator. There is a clear and present danger of a coup in the USA, and specific action was required immediately
The Slim Reaper
09-01-2021, 12:00 PM
If you're screaming about big tech now, but have no issue with what Murdoch has done over decades, and our future foxificaton later this year, then it's difficult to take you seriously.
Oliver_W
09-01-2021, 12:25 PM
I agree that anyone who either explicitly or implicitly encourages violent uprising should be removed, however...
I don't think you're dumb enough to actually believe this so why be disingenuous? He was "subtly" (as subtle as a MAGA sign through a glass window) encouraging it all day on the day whilst pretending that he didn't agree with the violence (only to then hint again that he thought they were patriots doing the right thing), and only switched to "condemning it" at the last second in a last-minute effort to benefit himself.
I just don't believe that anyone can watch those videos of him smirking and gloating on the 6th and trul believe that he wasn't encouraging it, nor can his posts on the days leading up be seen as anything other than a call-to-arms MAGA dogwhistle. The latter, I think he was even still doing in that "condemnation" speech.
I will admit to stealing my post from a tweet ;) I wilk also add Trump has pretty much steamrolled my opnion it'd just be funny if he somehow managed to stay on...
BUT if Twitter is going to say his lukewarm and insincere "condemnation" is partially culpable for their actions, they must also think people and groups outright encouraging the recent rioting and looting also share blame, and it's a shame they didn't seem to come down so much on such posts.
Oliver_W
09-01-2021, 12:29 PM
If you're screaming about big tech now, but have no issue with what Murdoch has done over decades, and our future foxificaton later this year, then it's difficult to take you seriously.
I'm not a fan of any huge corporations, let alone those that control almost every news outlet :shrug:
they were planning to execute Pelosi and Pence on Wednesday, by hanging them on the gallows they had erected complete with noose. Meanwhile Trump was excitedly watching them on the TV having stirred this up for weeks and then refused to authorise federal forces to help the police out.
https://i.imgur.com/4LkZrxY.png
This has nothing to do with any other perpetrator. There is a clear and present danger of a coup in the USA, and specific action was required immediately
Oh come on. You can't possibly think they actually planned to use that prop gallows? It was more likely a feat of moronic dick-wagging.
arista
09-01-2021, 12:33 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/01/09/04/37789102-9128103-image-a-9_1610167452761.jpg
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/01/09/04/37789098-9128103-image-a-11_1610167459317.jpg
arista
09-01-2021, 12:35 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/01/09/00/37770404-9128103-Twitter_concluded_in_the_blog_post_that_Trump_stat ing_he_would_n-a-19_1610151567690.jpg
One of his Last Tweets
I'm not a fan of any huge corporations, let alone those that control almost every news outlet :shrug:
Oh come on. You can't possibly think they actually planned to use that prop gallows? It was more likely a feat of moronic dick-wagging.
oh, so are you of the opinion that they just went in to the capitol for a cup of tea?
Oliver_W
09-01-2021, 12:44 PM
oh, so are you of the opinion that they just went in to the capitol for a cup of tea?
Not at all, their actions speak for themselves. But just look at it - there's no way that gallows is functional.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/01/09/00/37770404-9128103-Twitter_concluded_in_the_blog_post_that_Trump_stat ing_he_would_n-a-19_1610151567690.jpg
One of his Last Tweets
A petulant child from start to finish.
Jessica.
09-01-2021, 02:33 PM
I can't believe people still support that pathetic man.
Nicky91
09-01-2021, 02:38 PM
I can't believe people still support that pathetic man.
me neither
Tom4784
09-01-2021, 02:50 PM
Oh come on. You can't possibly think they actually planned to use that prop gallows? It was more likely a feat of moronic dick-wagging.
You just tried to lump in BLM with terrorism and now you're downplaying actual terrorism by saying that this was just a prop? When there were people with ties and plans to kidnap senators? When explosive devices were found?
I'm so bored of the both sides rhetoric, especially when it's this disingenuous.
Oliver_W
09-01-2021, 03:00 PM
You just tried to lump in BLM with terrorism
Is there another word for damaging or destroying hundreds of buildings and small businesses, and widespread burning and looting, and attacking police officers who are trying to keep the peace? When the riots are even triggered by a man getting shot for charging at the police with a knife (https://news.sky.com/story/walter-wallace-jr-second-night-of-unrest-after-black-man-shot-dead-by-philadelphia-police-12116616), it makes it seem like they're just using any excuse.
I'm so bored of the both sides rhetoric, especially when it's this disingenuous.
Sometimes there really are scumbags on both sides :shrug:
The rioters and looters are in a way worse than the idiots who stormed the Capitol, because their mindless and aimless destruction should have been taken to the people behind the police brutality, not the world around them.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErMySjPXYAAIx0p?format=jpg&name=medium
(I don't necessarily agree with the heading, but the facts it lays out are handy)
Denver
09-01-2021, 03:10 PM
Difference is one is protesting for equality the other are bitter men children who still get breast fed by their mother
Oliver_W
09-01-2021, 03:14 PM
Difference is one is protesting for equality the other are bitter men children who still get breast fed by their mother
Peaceful protesting is fine. Rioting isn't. It doesn't matter what they claimed to be "protesting" for if they take part in the riots.
Denver
09-01-2021, 03:26 PM
Its was confirmed a lot of the riots were started by trumpsters
Tom4784
09-01-2021, 03:27 PM
Is there another word for damaging or destroying hundreds of buildings and small businesses, and widespread burning and looting, and attacking police officers who are trying to keep the peace? When the riots are even triggered by a man getting shot for charging at the police with a knife (https://news.sky.com/story/walter-wallace-jr-second-night-of-unrest-after-black-man-shot-dead-by-philadelphia-police-12116616), it makes it seem like they're just using any excuse.
Sometimes there really are scumbags on both sides :shrug:
The rioters and looters are in a way worse than the idiots who stormed the Capitol, because their mindless and aimless destruction should have been taken to the people behind the police brutality, not the world around them.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErMySjPXYAAIx0p?format=jpg&name=medium
(I don't necessarily agree with the heading, but the facts it lays out are handy)
You've lost touch with reality if you think looting is equivalent to attacking the bedrock of democracy. But hey, at least the 'I think both sides are bad' mask is slipping. You have always had a preference and you've always used the both sides **** to make the left look as bad as the right disingenuously. You've become radicalised and you don't even realise it, you're literally downplaying domestic terrorism, you're downplaying the fact that people who stormed the capitol had equipment on them to kidnap senators, to harm and kill with explosives. If you truly think that BLM is worse than that then you're truly a lost cause.
As for your ****ty propaganda, let's shred it piece by piece.
The first point, time frame doesn't matter, 9/11 lasted a few hours yet it had an acute effect on the world even 19 years later. Also protests lasted for months but there were far more peaceful protests than ones that descended into rioting. Many police departments in areas that descended into rioting pinpointed aggravation by far right elements as the cause of escalation. The domestic terrorists at the Capitol went with the intent to commit terrorist acts and they did just that.
Second point, there was plenty of people condemning the riots, including people within the BLM, the republicans focused on the riots like you do to simply undermine the message of the protests. Ultimately though, like the time frame point, it really isn't important who condemns what. The attack on the capitol is far worse than any looting and you're entitled to be wrong by believing that it isn't the case but that won't change the fact that you're wrong.
Third point, no one in the media encouraged riots, they encouraged peaceful protest and you're pushing a false narrative by saying that they encouraged looting.
Fourth point and fifth points, less force was used against the domestic terrorists than against BLM protesters. Less people died at Capitol because the police were practicing restraint while they did not during the BLM protests. Most of the people that died in the protests were protesters and you're right, there was a lack of sympathy for them, from the right and from you who obviously values property over lives. There was more sympathy for that murderer Kyle Rittenhouse from you and the right than there were for his victims who were made out to be aggressors and Kyle some innocent victim. There was more sympathy for that terrorist at Capitol who was shot for being a dumb moron than there was for all the victims of police brutality during the BLM protesters. If the BLM did what those terrorists did, the bodies of BLM would have littered the grounds. You cannot deny that given that in this picture itself, it shows that more people were killed protesting police violence than terrorists who stormed the ****ing Senate.
The rest of the points are the same really, spun facts, purposely omitted details that enable a false narrative of false equivalence.
At the end of the day, you are defending terrorists and their actions. You have no idea how radicalised you have become by doing that and I can only pity you for it.
Tom4784
09-01-2021, 03:28 PM
Peaceful protesting is fine. Rioting isn't. It doesn't matter what they claimed to be "protesting" for if they take part in the riots.
Yet storming the capital with bombs, ties to kidnap senators and a noose to hang them with is A-okay.
This one is going out to Donald Trump and Toy Soldier
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arista
09-01-2021, 03:59 PM
I can't believe people still support that pathetic man.
Over 70 million
hate the Left in the USA.
The Slim Reaper
09-01-2021, 04:03 PM
Over 70 million
hate the Left in the USA.
You do realise that the left in the US is offering healthcare, free education, and more equality. There's a reason that the right hates these things. Why do you think that is?
We don't have to live in this cesspit world of survival.
Arista will be out with his AK47 if labour win the next election
Over 70 million
hate the Left in the USA.Bemused is a more accurate word than hate.
They can't understand how they'd let themselves be divided and conquered. Why they constantly defend the establishment against their own people.
They'd rather defend big tech billionaires at the expense of freedom.
Crazy times we're living in. But historic times too.
The Slim Reaper
09-01-2021, 04:06 PM
Republicans have defended the right of every private bakery to refuse to sell wedding cakes to gay folks. This is the same thing; private businesses can pretty much do what they like (within the law).
Republicans have defended the right of every private bakery to refuse to sell wedding cakes to gay folks. This is the same thing; private businesses can pretty much do what they like (within the law).That's not true, they'll sell them a wedding cake, but they just don't do that specific design. It's the same as me going into Macdonslds and asking for a cherry pie and they tell me they don't do them, but they do apple pie.
Tom4784
09-01-2021, 04:15 PM
Except these bakeries offered custom designs and they turned down gay designs because of homophobia. Bit different to going into a McDonald's an ordering something that's not on the menu.
Oliver_W
09-01-2021, 04:54 PM
Yet storming the capital with bombs, ties to kidnap senators and a noose to hang them with is A-okay.
When did I say that?
...there are huge differences with the bakers and their refusal to bake the cake, though...the bakers didn’t apply any circumstances that people would be refused their products as in being a specific sexuality ...because it would have been illegal to do that/ to show prejudice in that way...no prejudice was shown with Trump, he was allowed to use the Twitter platform...but he abused the rules of it so was banned...it’s a better analogy to something like TiBB, surely...there is a clear and defined list of rules on social media platforms and encouraging violence is in breach of those rules...
user104658
09-01-2021, 05:31 PM
Just to add my two cents... I think there is a comparison to be drawn with the BLM civil unrest tbqfh.
I find those actions far more personally understandable - but there is a huge difference between what is understandable and having empathy for anger... And making allowances for/excusing/encouraging violent uprising. I know that a lot of the BLM protests were peaceful and turned violent because of the actions of the authorities - but its disingenuous to claim that there were none that were deliberately actively violent. It shouldn't be allowed or excused in any form. All it does is legitimise others doing the same. "But my rioters are the good guys" just isn't going to work going forward. It should never have been cheered on as a positive.
SherzyK
09-01-2021, 06:36 PM
1347968416431312896
Screaming @ spotify
arista
09-01-2021, 06:48 PM
He will set up his own one
user104658
09-01-2021, 07:01 PM
1347968416431312896
Screaming @ spotifyI did laugh at that one earlier... Like "And guess what? You don't get to listen to your favourite tunes either! Ha!"
user104658
09-01-2021, 07:02 PM
He will set up his own oneThisIsTrumpTowers.com/forum
:hehe:
He won't be able to get an app on either of the major platforms though, will be browser-only.
The Slim Reaper
09-01-2021, 07:24 PM
Dear TheDonald1946,
You have received an infraction at ThisisBigBrother.com - UK TV Forums.
Reason: Trying to incite a coup.
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Sucks that he is banned from Twitch. I was hoping he'd start doing Fifa streams once he is unemployed.
He'll probably get his supporters to financially contribute to a new platform that'll never see the light of day, won't he? A grifter through and through.
GiRTh
09-01-2021, 07:35 PM
Just to add my two cents... I think there is a comparison to be drawn with the BLM civil unrest tbqfh.
I find those actions far more personally understandable - but there is a huge difference between what is understandable and having empathy for anger... And making allowances for/excusing/encouraging violent uprising. I know that a lot of the BLM protests were peaceful and turned violent because of the actions of the authorities - but its disingenuous to claim that there were none that were deliberately actively violent. It shouldn't be allowed or excused in any form. All it does is legitimise others doing the same. "But my rioters are the good guys" just isn't going to work going forward. It should never have been cheered on as a positive.I dont think many people have made the point - 'My rioters are the good guys'. I've seen it outlined that fighting against racial injustice is a more noble cause than rioting because Trump lost. I'd expect most people to condemn any kind of violence.
Large gatherings of people attract an unsavoury element that take advantage of a situation. No matter what the cause or occasion, they'll always show up.
To give a terrible analogy, do the pickpockets at Glastonbury have anything to do with the official event organisers? We'd all agree, no but they still show up every year. I think I'd add to your post, the many attempts to associate the violence directly with BLM is equally disingenuous. As you point out, in many cases it was the actions of the authorities that caused many of the problems.
GoldHeart
09-01-2021, 07:35 PM
He's actually got himself permanently banned off most platforms now then :joker:
...it’s that he’s been banned from Pinterest as well, isn’t that a pinboard for recipe ideas, home styling and wedding/function planning things etc, type site...
user104658
09-01-2021, 07:58 PM
...it’s that he’s been banned from Pinterest as well, isn’t that a pinboard for recipe ideas, home styling and wedding/function planning things etc, type site..."My Top Government Coup Ideas"
DouglasS
09-01-2021, 08:14 PM
Except these bakeries offered custom designs and they turned down gay designs because of homophobia. Bit different to going into a McDonald's an ordering something that's not on the menu.
They’re entitled to their religious beliefs... if they’re a Christian bakery they have every right to refuse special made designs that go against their beliefs... the bigger question is why would a gay couple be going to a religious bakery for their specially designed cake? They’re likely looking for a payout or for problems on purpose
Niamh.
09-01-2021, 08:25 PM
"My Top Government Coup Ideas"[emoji1787]
Glenn.
09-01-2021, 09:08 PM
I did laugh at that one earlier... Like "And guess what? You don't get to listen to your favourite tunes either! Ha!"
It’s what it deserves.
Tom4784
09-01-2021, 09:34 PM
When did I say that?
By downplaying terrorism by comparing it to protests. You're so twisted out of shape about BLM that you're basically defending terrorism by laughing at a picture of a noose being set up on Capitol grounds and acting like BLM are still somehow worse.
Tom4784
09-01-2021, 09:36 PM
I dont think many people have made the point - 'My rioters are the good guys'. I've seen it outlined that fighting against racial injustice is a more noble cause than rioting because Trump lost. I'd expect most people to condemn any kind of violence.
Large gatherings of people attract an unsavoury element that take advantage of a situation. No matter what the cause or occasion, they'll always show up.
To give a terrible analogy, do the pickpockets at Glastonbury have anything to do with the official event organisers? We'd all agree, no but they still show up every year. I think I'd add to your post, the many attempts to associate the violence directly with BLM is equally disingenuous. As you point out, in many cases it was the actions of the authorities that caused many of the problems.
Pretty much, no one defends the looting but the right are intent to make out that all BLM is is violent looting when it's not the case. What happened at Capitol though? That was nothing but a violent attack on Democracy itself and it was designed to be that from the start.
Tom4784
09-01-2021, 09:40 PM
They’re entitled to their religious beliefs... if they’re a Christian bakery they have every right to refuse special made designs that go against their beliefs... the bigger question is why would a gay couple be going to a religious bakery for their specially designed cake? They’re likely looking for a payout or for problems on purpose
If that's the case then I do hope you never complain about Trump's 'freedom of speech' being somehow limited by not being allowed on a social network. Wouldn't want to be a hypocrite now, would you?
Marsh.
09-01-2021, 09:42 PM
That's not true, they'll sell them a wedding cake, but they just don't do that specific design.
:laugh2:
Niamh.
09-01-2021, 09:49 PM
I dont think many people have made the point - 'My rioters are the good guys'. I've seen it outlined that fighting against racial injustice is a more noble cause than rioting because Trump lost. I'd expect most people to condemn any kind of violence.
Large gatherings of people attract an unsavoury element that take advantage of a situation. No matter what the cause or occasion, they'll always show up.
To give a terrible analogy, do the pickpockets at Glastonbury have anything to do with the official event organisers? We'd all agree, no but they still show up every year. I think I'd add to your post, the many attempts to associate the violence directly with BLM is equally disingenuous. As you point out, in many cases it was the actions of the authorities that caused many of the problems.Spot on
Mystic Mock
09-01-2021, 09:52 PM
The thing is that Twitter can't be associated with someone that incites terrorism, I'm not even that big on using Social Media personally, but they've done the right thing morally and more importantly to them they've done the right thing for Twitter as a business.
People (including Trump) need to be more careful what they say on Social Media.
Scarlett.
09-01-2021, 10:21 PM
When is MySpace Tom gonna come out and ban him?
Niamh.
09-01-2021, 10:31 PM
When is MySpace Tom gonna come out and ban him?[emoji1787]
Oliver_W
10-01-2021, 10:06 AM
By downplaying terrorism by comparing it to protests. You're so twisted out of shape about BLM that you're basically defending terrorism by laughing at a picture of a noose being set up on Capitol grounds and acting like BLM are still somehow worse.
The only part I was "downplaying" was the gallows, which is clearly too flimsy to support the weight of a human. It was literally a prop.
As for the other riots (I'm not calling them BLM, they lose the right to be called anything but thugs), they were worse in terms of victims. Vast swathes of cities burning, versus a few bloody politicians getting their feathers ruffled?
Denver
10-01-2021, 10:11 AM
Amazon has removed Parler from its hosting services
Tom4784
10-01-2021, 02:41 PM
The only part I was "downplaying" was the gallows, which is clearly too flimsy to support the weight of a human. It was literally a prop.
As for the other riots (I'm not calling them BLM, they lose the right to be called anything but thugs), they were worse in terms of victims. Vast swathes of cities burning, versus a few bloody politicians getting their feathers ruffled?
You're being disingenuous again and I'm not sure why when it's so easy for me to point it out and discard it. You'd think you'd learn that this approach won't work by now but oh well...
Most of the victims in the BLM protests were protesters killed by the police when the protest was opposed to police brutality. To make out that it's the protests' fault is just dumb. People went out to peacefully protest, they didn't march on Capitol Hill, erect a ****ing Gallows and invaded a government building with weapons, ties and plans to kidnap people.
I like how you say you aren't downplaying what happened.... Only to then downplay the whole incident as 'a few bloody politicians getting their feathers ruffled'. A lack of awareness is a common trait amongst radicalised people and it's certainly radicalised behaviour to downplay what was an act of terrorism upon US democracy.
Take a good look at yourself, Oliver. You really need to.
user104658
10-01-2021, 02:50 PM
Hmm. In terms of scale obviously the riots in summer were literally larger. However, in terms of symbolism, an armed insurgency into a DC government building waving Nazi and confederate flags is absolutely massive. Really beyond anything the US has seen for, literally, well over a century.
That said I do agree that the gallows that I've seen pictures of are more likely a prop/message than something that was literally intended to be used... It isn't braced and looks like it would almost certainly collapse under a person's weight.
That said... They're not exactly geniuses in that crowd... So maybe they DID intend to try to use it and didn't realise that it would crumple like wet tissue paper.
Kazanne
10-01-2021, 02:57 PM
I do hope Twitter keep this up for ALL those who incite violence, Facebook too.
Nicky91
10-01-2021, 03:00 PM
I do hope Twitter keep this up for ALL those who incite violence, Facebook too.
it stands in their rules, policies
and Twitter already did hand out bans to those who provoked hatred, bigotry, racism (re: Katie Hopkins)
now Trump, and i can predict next one being Laurence Fox (i mean that ban for Lozza is also waiting to happen anytime now)
Oliver_W
10-01-2021, 03:16 PM
Most of the victims in the BLM protests were protesters killed by the police when the protest was opposed to police brutality.
The victims of the riots were people whose neighborhoods were destroyed.
Tom4784
10-01-2021, 03:18 PM
The victims of the riots were people whose neighborhoods were destroyed.
Well, the victims are the people who died but let's not let that get in the way of your crusade to make out that bricks and mortar matters more than black lives.
Also, why edit down my post to one sentence? Don't have an answer for the rest? How telling.
Until the 20th of January. Donald Trump is still the President of the United States of America.
This is an attack on the President of the United States of America. Which means, The United States of America are under attack, right now.
I can’t believe you don't understand this, and you think nothing is gonna happen about it.
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The Slim Reaper
10-01-2021, 04:11 PM
Until the 20th of January. Donald Trump is still the President of the United States of America.
This is an attack on the President of the United States of America. Which means, The United States of America are under attack, right now.
I can’t believe you don't understand this, and you think nothing is gonna happen about it.
What is an attack on the president?
The Slim Reaper
10-01-2021, 04:13 PM
The only part I was "downplaying" was the gallows, which is clearly too flimsy to support the weight of a human. It was literally a prop.
As for the other riots (I'm not calling them BLM, they lose the right to be called anything but thugs), they were worse in terms of victims. Vast swathes of cities burning, versus a few bloody politicians getting their feathers ruffled?
There are an easy, quick set of gallows you could make for effect, but look at the work that's gone into this. I genuinely don't know either way, but this looks a bit more than shock value to me.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErEabDiXMAMbSP0.jpg
Oliver_W
10-01-2021, 04:15 PM
your crusade to make out that bricks and mortar matters more than black lives.
Never said that. The police brutality and the riots are separate things.
Also, why edit down my post to one sentence? Don't have an answer for the rest? How telling.
Too many personal comments and gaslighting. No need for it. You don't get to tell other people what they're thinking.
Oliver_W
10-01-2021, 04:17 PM
There are an easy, quick set of gallows you could make for effect, but look at the work that's gone into this. I genuinely don't know either way, but this looks a bit more than shock value to me.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErEabDiXMAMbSP0.jpg
So it either was made by them to be little edgelords, or they're dumb enough to think that thing wouldn't collapse from a person hanging from it?
Mystic Mock
10-01-2021, 04:19 PM
The only part I was "downplaying" was the gallows, which is clearly too flimsy to support the weight of a human. It was literally a prop.
As for the other riots (I'm not calling them BLM, they lose the right to be called anything but thugs), they were worse in terms of victims. Vast swathes of cities burning, versus a few bloody politicians getting their feathers ruffled?
Just because the Gallows didn't look properly functioning doesn't mean that the intent from the terrorists still wasn't to hang people, thankfully I guess we'll never know.
Even joking about doing it is quite disturbed imo.
Never said that. The police brutality and the riots are separate things.
Too many personal comments and gaslighting. No need for it. You don't get to tell other people what they're thinking.You'll learn that they do get to tell you what you're thinking, and the mods will let them get away with it.
President Trump has huge news on the Covid pandemic, huge news.
However, he can't communicate that news with his people, so forget about it.
Oliver_W
10-01-2021, 04:29 PM
You'll learn that they do get to tell you what you're thinking, and the mods will let them get away with it.
It doesn't warrant moderation tbh :shrug:
It doesn't warrant moderation tbh :shrug:OK. Fair enough.
The Slim Reaper
10-01-2021, 04:46 PM
President Trump has huge news on the Covid pandemic, huge news.
However, he can't communicate that news with his people, so forget about it.
You do realise how pathetic this makes trump look? I was going to tell you something, but now you've taken my twitter away I'm sulking.
He's the president, so he could call a press briefing.
You do realise how pathetic this makes trump look? I was going to tell you something, but now you've taken my twitter away I'm sulking.
He's the president, so he could call a press briefing.That takes time setting up, this is an emergency, no time to waste.
Nicky91
10-01-2021, 04:49 PM
That takes time setting up, this is an emergency, no time to waste.
yes it is an emergency how Trump needs to be removed now asap, and locked up in a nice little cold isolation cell
We know for a fact, that he wasn't banned for inciting violence, because his tweets were the exact opposite, calling for calm and for people to go home. (feel free to prove me wrong by showing me his tweets that involved incitement to violence, I'll quite happily show you his tweets doing the opposite, they're all archived)
What's the real reason?
Why do you all on here keep saying he incited violence without showing zero proof (because there is no proof, because it didn't happen)
Either show the proof to your accusations or you're nothing but conspiracy theorists.
I seriously want to see the proof. Is that too much to ask?
Many have said in this thread that he incited violence. I've not seen it, but obviously many of you have, could you please post it so I can see too?
The thing is that Twitter can't be associated with someone that incites terrorism, I'm not even that big on using Social Media personally, but they've done the right thing morally and more importantly to them they've done the right thing for Twitter as a business.
People (including Trump) need to be more careful what they say on Social Media.Mock, here, I think you are suggesting that Trump incited terrorism?
1 Are you?
2 If so, can you show me where?
AnnieK
10-01-2021, 05:14 PM
That takes time setting up, this is an emergency, no time to waste.
His Potus account is still available isn't it? Its only his personal account that has been banned if he needs to tell his people something surely he can get word out?
His Potus account is still available isn't it? Its only his personal account that has been banned if he needs to tell his people something surely he can get word out?The point I'm making is, don't ban the President of the United States of America, particularly during a pandemic, that's inhumanly dangerous.
AnnieK
10-01-2021, 05:21 PM
The point I'm making is, don't ban the President of the United States of America, particularly during a pandemic, that's inhumanly dangerous.
His official account as the President is still there though....so it's not inhumanely dangerous...he is still able to communicate in his official capacity
GiRTh
10-01-2021, 05:24 PM
The point I'm making is, don't ban the President of the United States of America, particularly during a pandemic, that's inhumanly dangerous.
He's got the White House press briefing room?
The Slim Reaper
10-01-2021, 05:26 PM
His official account as the President is still there though....so it's not inhumanely dangerous...he is still able to communicate in his official capacity
Pretty sure they've closed all the accounts he had access to. It's still ridiculous to complain the potus can't cope without twitter, though :laugh: He's overseen 400k deaths but now he has some information to share? Ok Donald, you need to sit this one out.
The Slim Reaper
10-01-2021, 05:27 PM
It's inhuman to ban a man that hasn't cared about the pandemic, during a pandemic?
Oh the huge manatee :smug:
Scarlett.
10-01-2021, 06:09 PM
That takes time setting up, this is an emergency, no time to waste.
We had this thing before social media called a mother****ing press release
Crimson Dynamo
10-01-2021, 06:11 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/01/10/04/37810398-9130135-image-m-55_1610254081146.jpg
Scarlett.
10-01-2021, 06:11 PM
Parler has been removed from Amazon AWS :D
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Crimson Dynamo
10-01-2021, 06:12 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/01/10/04/37810384-9130135-image-a-48_1610254038377.jpg
Pretty sure they've closed all the accounts he had access to. It's still ridiculous to complain the potus can't cope without twitter, though :laugh: He's overseen 400k deaths but now he has some information to share? Ok Donald, you need to sit this one out.Also banned anybody who tweets any of his messages. Yes it's fully totalitarian. That's the future for us all now.
We had this thing before social media called a mother****ing press releaseI know, but times change.and ways of communication change.
GiRTh
10-01-2021, 06:17 PM
I repeat, he's got the White House press briefing room. Getting the presidents message to the people is, quite literally, what the room is for.
GiRTh
10-01-2021, 06:19 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/01/10/04/37810384-9130135-image-a-48_1610254038377.jpgThey make an excellent point. Trump has his own press team and FOX News.
I seriously want to see the proof. Is that too much to ask?
Many have said in this thread that he incited violence. I've not seen it, but obviously many of you have, could you please post it so I can see too?Anybody? Anything?
Scarlett.
10-01-2021, 06:34 PM
Anybody? Anything?
Do you own research
GiRTh
10-01-2021, 06:36 PM
Anybody? Anything?
Its not up to anyone to prove he did or didnt incite violence. If you are happy with what you've seen this week then fine, but why is he holding rallies after he's lost? We can start and end with this one question.
He lost. He may not accept it but he lost. What do you think would be the purpose of a defeated leader still holding mass events to his defeated supporters where he still maintains he didnt lose? Its up to you to decide but even if there was a tape of him saying 'Come to Washington and smash up a federal building' I still doubt some of his supporters would accept that he holds any responsibility for the events of Jan 6th..
Marsh.
10-01-2021, 06:59 PM
President Trump has huge news on the Covid pandemic, huge news.
However, he can't communicate that news with his people, so forget about it.
The President can't communicate with his people without Twitter? :unsure:
:laugh2:
Marsh.
10-01-2021, 07:02 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/01/10/04/37810398-9130135-image-m-55_1610254081146.jpg
It's a privately owned website. :facepalm:
Its not up to anyone to prove he did or didnt incite violence. If you are happy with what you've seen this week then fine, but why is he holding rallies after he's lost? We can start and end with this one question.
He lost. He may not accept it but he lost. What do you think would be the purpose of a defeated leader still holding mass events to his defeated supporters where he still maintains he didnt lose? Its up to you to decide but even if there was a tape of him saying 'Come to Washington and smash up a federal building' I still doubt some of his supporters would accept that he holds any responsibility for the events of Jan 6th..Well its pretty important to know the truth. If Twitter say they banned him for inciting violence, then where is the proof?
If there is no proof, then we have to assume they banned him for a different reason than they are telling us.
So is there any proof? or do we move on to the next stage of the investigation, finding out what the real reason was?
Do you own researchI've done it and can't find anything, that's why I asked the members who said he did incite violence to show me where?
I'd always help a forum member out if they asked for my help.
GiRTh
10-01-2021, 07:10 PM
Well its pretty important to know the truth. If Twitter say they banned him for inciting violence, then where is the proof?
If there is no proof, then we have to assume they banned him for a different reason than they are telling us.
So is there any proof? or do we move on to the next stage of the investigation, finding out what the real reason was?Again, if you're happy with what you've seen then there isnt much of a discussion to have.
He's used the platform to push conspiracy theories to create the chaos we now have. If Twitter feel this is inciting violence then their company. their rules and Donnie has been suspended. There isnt much more to it TBH
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