Married teacher, 35, is found guilty of having raped a 15-year-old pupil

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/01/26/16/38502224-9189047-image-m-35_1611677436856.jpg
You are now a Paedophile

[Mother-of-three and teacher Kandice Barber, 35,
sent topless selfies to her underage victim]


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/01/26/17/38504648-9189047-image-a-52_1611680596331.jpg
[Kandice Barber who arrived at court with
her husband Daniel during parts of the trial]

[Nadia Chbatt, Barber's barrister, was carrying
out a different professional commitment today,
and the judge gave the teacher bail and let
her walk free from court before her sentencing.
The judge told Barber: 'I am not going to
proceed to sentence immediately.
I totally accept that you should have Ms Chbatt,
who was your trial counsel, present.
'I am going to bail you until the next occasion
that will either be tomorrow morning
or indeed Monday morning and you must
attend Aylesbury Crown Court.

'If you fail to attend you will commit a
second offence of failure to surrender
and what follows from that is that the
police can then arrest you and bring you by force.']

[the judge ordered them to wait until a date is set for
her sentencing on Friday or next Monday.]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9189047/Married-teacher-35-guilty-having-sex-15-year-old-pupil-adding-Snapchat.html

[Niamh.]

And her husband stayed with her? Gross

[arista]

And her husband stayed with her? Gross

Yes



[Husband of teacher accused of having
sex with her pupil, 15, insists their
four-year marriage is as 'strong' as ever
despite her conviction for sending the
boy graphic videos of herself with sex toys]



[Today he told the jury in the current trial
at Amersham Law Courts about his family,
which consisted of two of his children from
a previous relationship and three of his wife's,
also from a previous relationship.
The jury heard that every other weekend
the Barbers live as a family of five
but Mrs Barber's children saw their
biological fathers in meetings which
the supply teacher, who her husband
said was 'good at organising things', scheduled.]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9184359/Husband-teacher-accused-having-sex-pupil-insists-marriage-strong-ever.html

[MTVN]

Sounds a tad dysfunctional

[MTVN]

He's a beefy fella

[Vicky.]

And her husband stayed with her? Gross

My first thought too..

Theres some stuff you would expect a partner to stand by you for. Being a pedo is not one of them :umm2:

[Niamh.]

My first thought too..

Theres some stuff you would expect a partner to stand by you for. Being a pedo is not one of them :umm2:

No definitely, grim indeed

[Oliver_W]

She didn't "have sex" with the kid, she raped him.

[Crimson Dynamo]

she must be as thick as mince to think she could ever have got away with it and she is a teacher?

:facepalm:

[Cherie]

The husband probably got off on it :worry:

I would be looking at him to see what his involvement was including cohersion

[Jessica.]

She didn't have outdoor sex with a student, she raped him. Why doesn't it say that in the title? Cause she's a woman?

[arista]

She didn't have outdoor sex with a student, she raped him. Why doesn't it say that in the title? Cause she's a woman?



The title is long enough.

[Jake.]

The title is long enough.

“Raped” is shorter than “outdoor sex” last time I checked

[arista]

“Raped” is shorter than “outdoor sex” last time I checked


Done

[arista]

She didn't have outdoor sex with a student, she raped him. Why doesn't it say that in the title? Cause she's a woman?


Title is now changed
Jess.

[Jessica.]

Title is now changed

Jess.Thank you

[Ammi]

...it’s really odd and quite awful that it is being headlines as ‘having sex’ in all of the media that I can see, when in the eyes of the law, consensual sex could never have taken place...it really is making lighter of one of the most severe abuse of trusts there can be...a teacher and pupil...(..thank you for amending it, Arista...I can see that you copied the media titles, but they’re not showing accuracy or severity ...)....

...the teacher had apparently told the child that she was pregnant as well and then that she miscarried...it also says that she was being tried for a second time after a first trial was unable to reach verdicts on those charges, surely there should have never been any doubt with the verdict...

...that her actions are horrendous is without doubt but that she didn’t plead guilty and prevent the child and his family from having to go through the court ordeal is also unforgivable...awful, awful woman...

[joeysteele]

Yes Ammi, that is despicable, that she in light of the evidence wouldn't plead guilty.

Putting as you say her victim through more trauma.
Also his family too.

I hope the sentencing will not only reflect the crime committed but also her cruelly adding to the stress.
There's perhaps reasons for letting her free until sentencing, however I wouldn't have done.

[Ammi]

Yes Ammi, that is despicable, that she in light of the evidence wouldn't plead guilty.

Putting as you say her victim through more trauma.
Also his family too.

I hope the sentencing will not only reflect the crime committed but also her cruelly adding to the stress.
There's perhaps reasons for letting her free until sentencing, however I wouldn't have done.

...yeah, I’m hoping that the sentence will be reflective of her horrendous breach of trust, Joey...but that this is a second trial and the first being unable to reach a verdict...?...is a bit worrying ...and also that the descriptive is being reported as ‘having sex’ as opposed to rape...

[Oliver_W]

...it’s really odd and quite awful that it is being headlines as ‘having sex’ in all of the media that I can see, when in the eyes of the law, consensual sex could never have taken place...it really is making lighter of one of the most severe abuse of trusts there can be...a teacher and pupil...(..thank you for amending it, Arista...I can see that you copied the media titles, but they’re not showing accuracy or severity ...)....


Rape culture in action...

[joeysteele]

...yeah, I’m hoping that the sentence will be reflective of her horrendous breach of trust, Joey...but that this is a second trial and the first being unable to reach a verdict...?...is a bit worrying ...also and also that the descriptive is being reported as ‘having sex’ as opposed to rape...


This is the mess that is the law sometimes.

This is a horrendous breach of trust as to her even before the detail of the crime is fully revealed.

More still needs to be looked into as to these cases, to protect the victims of these who abuse their positions of trust.

All the proceedings we haven't obviously seen.
However the conclusion of her being guilty is in place.

So I'd hope, and if I was of the prosecuting side, I'd be calling for severe sentencing.
Then there's the guidelines on sentencing too of course.

Frankly, even on the lesser count of having sex as opposed to rape.
Her conduct all through has been grossly sickening.

There's still sadly a lot that's wrong in law and much that needs addressing, particularly as to sentencing too.

[Ammi]

This is the mess that is the law sometimes.

This is a horrendous breach of trust as to her even before the detail of the crime is fully revealed.

More still needs to be looked into as to these cases, to protect the victims of these who abuse their positions of trust.

All the proceedings we haven't obviously seen.
However the conclusion of her being guilty is in place.

So I'd hope, and if I was of the prosecuting side, I'd be calling for severe sentencing.
Then there's the guidelines on sentencing too of course.

Frankly, even on the lesser count of having sex as opposed to rape.
Her conduct all through has been grossly sickening.

There's still sadly a lot that's wrong in law and much that needs addressing, particularly as to sentencing too.

...yeah, there is a lot of shortfalls in the law for sure and sentencing should always mean that the sentence is served, rather than only around half, served...unless there is some kind of occasional exceptional circumstances...for this, the crime itself is obviously very severe...but to add on her lack of remorse in saying that she would deny everything and then to plead not guilty and put the child and his family through that court ordeal, would indicate to me that the sentence should be fully as severe as is allowed and available in law...

[Mystic Mock]

Pedophilia bizarrely always gets short sentences by the law which is wrong to me as it is one of the worst crimes that can be committed imo.

[user104658]

There was a music teacher who had a fairly widely known about relationship with a 17 year old girl at my high school. Not statutory rape as she was technically old enough... But the older I get, the more messed up the whole thing seems. He wasn't allowed to teach at our school any more but he did carry on as a teacher elsewhere... I can only assume they both denied it and there wasn't enough proof.

[Ammi]

There was a music teacher who had a fairly widely known about relationship with a 17 year old girl at my high school. Not statutory rape as she was technically old enough... But the older I get, the more messed up the whole thing seems. He wasn't allowed to teach at our school any more but he did carry on as a teacher elsewhere... I can only assume they both denied it and there wasn't enough proof.

...there was something when I was at school as well, the student became pregnant at 16yrs old ...it’s quite horrifying and scary how so many of us have a personal story of ‘a case we know’, you know...leaving the feeling that such breaches of trust are not so rare...

[user104658]

...there was something when I was at school as well, the student became pregnant at 16yrs old ...it’s quite horrifying and scary how so many of us have a personal story of ‘a case we know’, you know...leaving the feeling that such breaches of trust are not so rare...A friend of mine knew the girl from the "infamous" Aberdeen story (a girl ran off to France I think it was, with her teacher who was about 50) from about 20 years ago... She told me a couple of years back that they're apparently still together and have kids :umm2:. I remember it seeming like such an unusual story at the time but then you go to Uni and EVERYONE has a story from their own school.

[Niamh.]

...it’s really odd and quite awful that it is being headlines as ‘having sex’ in all of the media that I can see, when in the eyes of the law, consensual sex could never have taken place...it really is making lighter of one of the most severe abuse of trusts there can be...a teacher and pupil...(..thank you for amending it, Arista...I can see that you copied the media titles, but they’re not showing accuracy or severity ...)....

...the teacher had apparently told the child that she was pregnant as well and then that she miscarried...it also says that she was being tried for a second time after a first trial was unable to reach verdicts on those charges, surely there should have never been any doubt with the verdict...

...that her actions are horrendous is without doubt but that she didn’t plead guilty and prevent the child and his family from having to go through the court ordeal is also unforgivable...awful, awful woman...

Even if he was over the age of consent, the fact that he was a pupil in her care it should be treated the same imo, such an abuse of trust and power. As a parent you're sending your children in to school trusting that they're safe, I'd be out for her blood if he was my son

[AnnieK]

She's been remanded in custody today until sentencing on 15th Feb

[Oliver_W]

She's been remanded in custody today until sentencing on 15th Feb

Hopefully they put her in gen-pop and make it well known what she's in there for. Save the costs of a trial and all that .

[Ammi]

...she should have a maximum sentence and the full weight of justice, surely that’s what the child’s parents would want also...her ‘being beaten up’ or whatever is suggested, serves no purpose at all...nothing is ‘served’ by that...

[arista]

[Married teacher, 35, who had outdoor sex
with her 15-year-old pupil after sending
him flirty Snapchat messages
is jailed for over six years
as victim says ordeal ruined his GCSE results]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9329729/Married-teacher-35-outdoor-sex-15-year-old-pupil-jailed-six-years.html

[Niamh.]

[Married teacher, 35, who had outdoor sex
with her 15-year-old pupil after sending
him flirty Snapchat messages
is jailed for over six years
as victim says ordeal ruined his GCSE results]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9329729/Married-teacher-35-outdoor-sex-15-year-old-pupil-jailed-six-years.html

Good

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/03/05/11/38502248-9329729-Barber_faces_a_prison_sentence_after_being_found_g uilty_of_havin-a-23_1614942366342.jpg

Get in Jail.

[UserSince2005]

Dirty slag.

[arista]

[The teacher at at Princes Risborough School
had bombarded him with messages
including one where she
asked him 'Do you like boobs or bum?',
and sent him a photo of herself
on a bed surrounded by sex toys.

But Barber - who was sentenced
at Aylesbury Crown Court- was found
out after a topless pictures she
had sent her victim was circulated
around so much it ended up being
passed to the head teacher of their school.

Today the pupil - who cannot be named - said the
ordeal had impacted his GCSE results.]

[Livia]

The word "rape" appears in the title of this thread and is scattered throughout. For the sake of accuracy I have to say she was found guilty of "one count of causing or inciting a child under 16 to engage in sexual activity" and would never have been charged with rape.

I read the article... what a piece of scum she is.

[Marsh.]

Statutory rape is statutory rape.

[Livia]

Rape = penetration. Look it up.

[Marsh.]

Ah the most important detail people wanted clarifying, who penetrated who. Statutory rape is sex with a minor.

Tibb is not a court document.

[Ammi]

...6 years, serving around 2 or 3 years...?...I know that a maximum sentence has restrictions but that to me isn’t justice and where the justice system fails ...a sentence as low as that for her crime is a failure to protect a child/children IMO....what she did was horrendous, to groom a child ....

[Alf]

After she takes a few beatings from the women inmates, she will then be passed around as the womens pleasure toy.

[Marsh.]

...6 years, serving around 2 or 3 years...?...I know that a maximum sentence has restrictions but that to me isn’t justice and where the justice system fails ...a sentence as low as that for her crime is a failure to protect a child/children IMO....what she did was horrendous, to groom a child ....

Completely agree.

[Livia]

She still didn't rape him.

I hope her sentence is appealed and increased.

[UserSince2005]

After she takes a few beatings from the women inmates, she will then be passed around as the womens pleasure toy.

im afraid kinky ones like this will enjoy every minute. :bawling: Disgusted

[user104658]

She still didn't rape him.

I hope her sentence is appealed and increased.In what world does the definition of a word within a specific country's legal system = the objective semantic meaning of the word? They're not the same thing, surely you know that.

You can say "she was not charged with rape under English legal definitions" - but whether or not the act of a woman having underage sex with a male can be in one's opinion be considered a form of rape has nothing to do with the legal technicalities... Just as with murder. People can (validly) say "That's clearly murder" about things that the legal system defines as manslaughter, etc.

Hell there isn't even consensus in Western legal systems from what I'm reading - e.g. Some legal systems define rape as forceful penetration with anything including inanimate objects, others it had to be a body part, others it specifically has to be penis.

[Marsh.]

In what world does the definition of a word within a specific country's legal system = the objective semantic meaning of the word? They're not the same thing, surely you know that.

You can say "she was not charged with rape under English legal definitions" - but whether or not the act of a woman having underage sex with a male can be in one's opinion be considered a form of rape has nothing to do with the legal technicalities... Just as with murder. People can (validly) say "That's clearly murder" about things that the legal system defines as manslaughter, etc.

Hell there isn't even consensus in Western legal systems from what I'm reading - e.g. Some legal systems define rape as forceful penetration with anything including inanimate objects, others it had to be a body part, others it specifically has to be penis.

:clap1:

[GoldHeart]

The disturbing part is she's a mother aswell, how would she feel if this happened to her own kids ! .

[user104658]

The disturbing part is she's a mother aswell, how would she feel if this happened to her own kids ! .A friend of mine, at 17, had a fling with a 48 year old woman who had a 16 year old son. Whilst obviously it's not technically illegal, to this day I often wonder how the **** she could have sex with a kid basically her own son's age.

My friend wasn't even big built/mature looking at that age or anything - he very much looked like a skinny teenage boy. Just gross :umm2:.

[Oliver_W]

Rape = penetration. Look it up.

Then it's outdated and needs updating :shrug:

Children can't consent to sex, it's as simple as that. Do you think a senile old woman can consent to borrowing money with a ridiculously high interest rate?

Or more comparably, would you think it was theft if someone tricked an old person into giving them vast amounts of money by taking advantage of their mental state?

[GoldHeart]

A friend of mine, at 17, had a fling with a 48 year old woman who had a 16 year old son. Whilst obviously it's not technically illegal, to this day I often wonder how the **** she could have sex with a kid basically her own son's age.

My friend wasn't even big built/mature looking at that age or anything - he very much looked like a skinny teenage boy. Just gross :umm2:.

I'll never know what goes through people's heads who do that .

How did your friend respond ,did he enjoy being with an older woman or feel weird afterwards ? . It makes it worse that her son was his peer :umm2:

Even when both parties are adults, I still find it uncomfortable when the person dates someone younger than their OWN CHILDREN ! :facepalm: .

[Oliver_W]

Some people claim rape culture doesn't exist in the west, and unfortunately when one of the examples given to prove its existence is wolf-whistling, it becomes easy to dismiss.

But when a literal victim comes forward, not only does he have to hesr that he wasn't actually raped, but other people in his shoes (I've not actually heard this in his case) have to hear "phroaw, lucky him!" or "I wish I had teachers like that!"

[user104658]

Some people claim rape culture doesn't exist in the west, and unfortunately when one of the examples given to prove its existence is wolf-whistling, it becomes easy to dismiss.

But when a literal victim comes forward, not only does he have to hesr that he wasn't actually raped, but other people in his shoes (I've not actually heard this in his case) have to hear "phroaw, lucky him!" or "I wish I had teachers like that!"

esw-gH5W_i0

Uncomfortably close to how some people see it, really.

[GoldHeart]

esw-gH5W_i0

Uncomfortably close to how some people see it, really.

TS did you see my post

[user104658]

TS did you see my post

Ah sorry I missed it as it was the last post on page 2 for me.

I'll never know what goes through people's heads who do that .

How did your friend respond ,did he enjoy being with an older woman or feel weird afterwards ? . It makes it worse that her son was his peer :umm2:

Even when both parties are adults, I still find it uncomfortable when the person dates someone younger than their OWN CHILDREN ! :facepalm: .

He saw her multiple times over the space of a few years into his early 20's, he had no issue with it and did "brag" about it a lot at the time, but that's just what a few of my friends were like as youngsters :facepalm:. We're obviously a lot older now (35, ancient) and when it's mentioned these days he can appreciate that it was a strange situation but more from a perspective of "What was she thinking, why was she interested in teenage boys??" rather than him having any actual issue with it, and in hindsight that it wasn't actually "impressive" at all and she was clearly a pretty troubled person. At the time he thought he was irresistable and didn't question at all why she would be interested.

Thankfully, her son wasn't someone we actually knew or anything, they weren't from the same town, he met her through his summer job :umm2:.

[user104658]

What I would note, though, is that people never seem to question what a 40+ year old man would see in an 18/19 year old girl when they absolutely ****ing should and it falls into exactly the same "legal, but still awful" category. I honestly find anyone who is 35+ being interested in anyone under 25 pretty odd. Once everyone is 30+ then I see it more as an "each to their own" situation... like I personally don't understand why a 30 year old would want a 60 year old partner but it's not "creepy" at that point, as everyone is clearly a grown-up of some description.

But then I know that many people see it as "you turn 18, you are now an adult" and that's that. Personally I can't look at a 20 year old and see anything other than a kid :shrug:.

[GoldHeart]

What I would note, though, is that people never seem to question what a 40+ year old man would see in an 18/19 year old girl when they absolutely ****ing should and it falls into exactly the same "legal, but still awful" category. I honestly find anyone who is 35+ being interested in anyone under 25 pretty odd. Once everyone is 30+ then I see it more as an "each to their own" situation... like I personally don't understand why a 30 year old would want a 60 year old partner but it's not "creepy" at that point, as everyone is clearly a grown-up of some description.

But then I know that many people see it as "you turn 18, you are now an adult" and that's that. Personally I can't look at a 20 year old and see anything other than a kid :shrug:.

Replying to both your posts

I'm not even surprised :bored:, everytime a middle aged woman sleeps with a teenage boy, there's always immature egging on about the whole thing.

An 18 year old and a 48 year old is weird but there's nothing illegal about it .

But going back to the whole 15 ,16 & 17 year olds I will never understand WHY someone well in their 40s or 50s would be interested, seems like a weird fetish they have. Or some power trip .

But what people need to remember is mentally the brain doesn't mature until 21 years old I would say.

Hell there's still immature 21 year olds, so 25 year old for some people is when they've grown up fully. So what on earth does a 48 year old have in common with a 16/17 year old ?? TF :facepalm: .

[bots]

people can get married at 16 so they can surely make their own sexual choices by then

[user104658]

people can get married at 16 so they can surely make their own sexual choices by then

Again as I said - legally, yes - but opinions don't have to be based on laws and it's perfectly acceptable to think that any 40-odd-year-old who is out shagging teenagers is a ****ing creep. I'm not judging the teens, I'm judging the adults.

There are countries where the legal age of consent is 14 ffs, I view any adult in those countries having sex with 14 year olds in exactly the same way as I'd view someone doing it in the UK.

[GoldHeart]

people can get married at 16 so they can surely make their own sexual choices by then

Well that's debateable , a 16 year old to me is still a kid (I know it's not the same as a 12 year old but still). I personally don't see anything fanciable about a 16 year old boy especially one that looks like a BOY still.

But it's a very strange grey area , due to the age of consent in UK being 16 .

But a 35 year old teacher and a 15 year old kid is effed up and clearly grooming .

[Niamh.]

Some people claim rape culture doesn't exist in the west, and unfortunately when one of the examples given to prove its existence is wolf-whistling, it becomes easy to dismiss.

But when a literal victim comes forward, not only does he have to hesr that he wasn't actually raped, but other people in his shoes (I've not actually heard this in his case) have to hear "phroaw, lucky him!" or "I wish I had teachers like that!"And it's usually other men that say stuff like lucky him etc

[Niamh.]

Again as I said - legally, yes - but opinions don't have to be based on laws and it's perfectly acceptable to think that any 40-odd-year-old who is out shagging teenagers is a ****ing creep. I'm not judging the teens, I'm judging the adults.

There are countries where the legal age of consent is 14 ffs, I view any adult in those countries having sex with 14 year olds in exactly the same way as I'd view someone doing it in the UK.Absolutely and besides the age, this woman was his teacher, she was in a position of trust and also had power over him

[user104658]

Absolutely and besides the age, this woman was his teacher, she was in a position of trust and also had power over him

I'm 99.999% sure (I can't be bothered googling) that even at 16+, there are at least laws about teachers and pupils in schools up to 18.

Most if not all Universities also have internal rules about it because of the risks of blackmail/coercion so people can be fired for gross misconduct for having relationships with people they also teach, though it wouldn't be a legal issue, which of course is fair enough as often the age gap isn't the issue there (students can be older, lecturers can be fairly young), it's purely the position of power.

[GoldHeart]

Absolutely and besides the age, this woman was his teacher, she was in a position of trust and also had power over him

Exactly that's like going to the doctor's and getting sexually assaulted, by the one person you thought you could trust.

[Oliver_W]

Tbh I think the age of consent should be 18.

And it's usually other men that say stuff like lucky him etc

Sadly so... This might be a wonky comparison but it's up there with "okay but how short was your skirt?"

[Liam-]

Pedantry over the rape of a child, we’ve hit a new low folks

[Niamh.]

Tbh I think the age of consent should be 18.







Sadly so... This might be a wonky comparison but it's up there with "okay but how short was your skirt?"It's 17 here

And yes, the male version of that I suppose

[Ammi]

...I was just looking at the charge and that it couldn’t have been a rape charge etc...so, I assumed that would have determined the very low sentencing as well, that only 6 years because of it not being able to be rape in the eyes of the law...?..so that would indicate a higher sentencing then for the opposite genders of male teacher/female student because a rape charge could then apply in the eyes of the law...

...something that was said in court in this case by the judge was...

‘There is no doubt in my mind that you acted in gross breach of trust. You took advantage of a child in your care and groomed him for your own sexual gratification’

...obviously I wouldn’t disagree with any of that, what she did was abhorrent and one of the worst betrayal of trusts...

...I googled cases which were male teachers and because this is a recent case, it obviously mostly came up with this case but the first male teacher news story that showed was ..(..when rape could have applied etc because it would have been penetration ...)...was a 22 month sentence..so if rape could be applied in U.K. law, then a lesser sentence was given in this case...?....and the male teacher was described as the judge before sentencing to that unbelievable 22 months imprisonment...

...an 'Honest man who lost sight of his responsibilities'....

...the female teacher is the worst, which is fair and fine because what she was awful...but a male teacher just ‘lost sight of responsibilities’ but what a great guy, on the whole, eh...

[Niamh.]

Are you surprised by that Ammi? I'm not, par for the course for men to be described as good men after they've assaulted women

[Ammi]

Are you surprised by that Ammi? I'm not, par for the course for men to be described as good men after they've assaulted women

...yeah, completely acting out of character and so unlike them etc...and maybe that’s why the even lower sentencing when it would then be rape in the eyes of the law...6 years is a ridiculously low sentence anyway when only a few years will be served, it’s a failure to protect our children...but I assumed it was low because rape couldn’t be charged, when that’s not the case...it’s 3 times longer than the male teacher received ...and to describe him as an ‘honest man’...when his behaviour was the exact opposite...

...I only looked at that one case atm, because it was hard to find a case that want this last one...but I am going to research some more, to see the differences in sentencing...but also the judge’s summation in character in regard to the specific offence...

[Niamh.]

...yeah, completely acting out of character and so unlike them etc...and maybe that’s why the even lower sentencing when it would then be rape in the eyes of the law...6 years is a ridiculously low sentence anyway when only a few years will be served, it’s a failure to protect our children...but I assumed it was low because rape couldn’t be charged, when that’s not the case...it’s 3 times longer than the male teacher received ...and to describe him as an ‘honest man’...when his behaviour was the exact opposite...

...I only looked at that one case atm, because it was hard to find a case that want this last one...but I am going to research some more, to see the differences in sentencing...but also the judge’s summation in character in regard to the specific offence...

Well, I've heard rape and child rape case results here over the years and they've been shockingly low. Multiple children abused but only get sentenced for one type thing. I don't know why they do that in cases where there is more than one victim, surely they should be sentenced for each child they assaulted.

But yeah, I knew rape sentences are disgustingly low

[Ammi]

Well, I've heard rape and child rape case results here over the years and they've been shockingly low. Multiple children abused but only get sentenced for one type thing. I don't know why they do that in cases where there is more than one victim, surely they should be sentenced for each child they assaulted.

But yeah, I knew rape sentences are disgustingly low

....when I think about it, I don’t think that I’ve ever seen a case such as this with a female teacher when her character has been praised in any way...’..oh she’s previously been so great and unblemished’ etc...because actually, no she wasn’t...she was found to be guilty of abusing a child’s trust in the most abhorrent of ways and some things in life are very much defining of character...so the ‘losing sight of responsibilities for one time only’ type thing, is a complete disrespect and further let down to the child and their family...for a judge to say that...?...

...but I’m pretty sure that I’ve read other similar court ‘defence’ remarks when it’s been a male...and this type of offence seems to be more commonly reported with male staff anyway than with female staff...

[Cal.]

As someone who was having ~relations~ with men over double their age at 16 I can definitely say in hindsight that the age of consent should be made 18. Grown adults going with 16 year old children is very very weird to me.

[Niamh.]

As someone who was having ~relations~ with men over double their age at 16 I can definitely say in hindsight that the age of consent should be made 18. Grown adults going with 16 year old children is very very weird to me.

Well at 16 you think you know it all, it's only when you get a bit older and look back you realise how much of a child you really were and how creepy it is for a person in their 30's to be interested in you in that way

[Cherie]

As someone who was having ~relations~ with men over double their age at 16 I can definitely say in hindsight that the age of consent should be made 18. Grown adults going with 16 year old children is very very weird to me.

Well at 16 you think you know it all, it's only when you get a bit older and look back you realise how much of a child you really were and how creepy it is for a person in their 30's to be interested in you in that way

100%

[Oliver_W]

As someone who was having ~relations~ with men over double their age at 16 I can definitely say in hindsight that the age of consent should be made 18. Grown adults going with 16 year old children is very very weird to me.

Well at 16 you think you know it all, it's only when you get a bit older and look back you realise how much of a child you really were and how creepy it is for a person in their 30's to be interested in you in that way

100%

Yups.

I'm not yet in my thirties but if someone my age went with a sixteen year old, I'd probably think think they were a paedo, i.e. getting the "legal" version of what they really want. That, and 16 year olds just look like kids.

[Cherie]

I wonder if her husband is still standing by her