[arista]

You are now a Paedophile

[Mother-of-three and teacher Kandice Barber, 35,
sent topless selfies to her underage victim]



[Kandice Barber who arrived at court with
her husband Daniel during parts of the trial]

[Nadia Chbatt, Barber's barrister, was carrying
out a different professional commitment today,
and the judge gave the teacher bail and let
her walk free from court before her sentencing.
The judge told Barber: 'I am not going to
proceed to sentence immediately.
I totally accept that you should have Ms Chbatt,
who was your trial counsel, present.
'I am going to bail you until the next occasion
that will either be tomorrow morning
or indeed Monday morning and you must
attend Aylesbury Crown Court.

'If you fail to attend you will commit a
second offence of failure to surrender
and what follows from that is that the
police can then arrest you and bring you by force.']

[the judge ordered them to wait until a date is set for
her sentencing on Friday or next Monday.]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Snapchat.html

[Niamh.]

And her husband stayed with her? Gross

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

And her husband stayed with her? Gross

Yes



[Husband of teacher accused of having
sex with her pupil, 15, insists their
four-year marriage is as 'strong' as ever
despite her conviction for sending the
boy graphic videos of herself with sex toys]



[Today he told the jury in the current trial
at Amersham Law Courts about his family,
which consisted of two of his children from
a previous relationship and three of his wife's,
also from a previous relationship.
The jury heard that every other weekend
the Barbers live as a family of five
but Mrs Barber's children saw their
biological fathers in meetings which
the supply teacher, who her husband
said was 'good at organising things', scheduled.]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rong-ever.html

[MTVN]

Sounds a tad dysfunctional

[MTVN]

He's a beefy fella

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

And her husband stayed with her? Gross

My first thought too..

Theres some stuff you would expect a partner to stand by you for. Being a pedo is not one of them

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

My first thought too..

Theres some stuff you would expect a partner to stand by you for. Being a pedo is not one of them

No definitely, grim indeed

[Oliver_W]

She didn't "have sex" with the kid, she raped him.

[LeatherTrumpet]

she must be as thick as mince to think she could ever have got away with it and she is a teacher?

[Cherie]

The husband probably got off on it

I would be looking at him to see what his involvement was including cohersion

[Jessica.]

She didn't have outdoor sex with a student, she raped him. Why doesn't it say that in the title? Cause she's a woman?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

She didn't have outdoor sex with a student, she raped him. Why doesn't it say that in the title? Cause she's a woman?

The title is long enough.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by arista

The title is long enough.

“Raped” is shorter than “outdoor sex” last time I checked

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jake.

“Raped” is shorter than “outdoor sex” last time I checked

Done

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

She didn't have outdoor sex with a student, she raped him. Why doesn't it say that in the title? Cause she's a woman?

Title is now changed
Jess.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by arista

Title is now changed

Jess.

Thank you

[Ammi]

...it’s really odd and quite awful that it is being headlines as ‘having sex’ in all of the media that I can see, when in the eyes of the law, consensual sex could never have taken place...it really is making lighter of one of the most severe abuse of trusts there can be...a teacher and pupil...(..thank you for amending it, Arista...I can see that you copied the media titles, but they’re not showing accuracy or severity ...)....

...the teacher had apparently told the child that she was pregnant as well and then that she miscarried...it also says that she was being tried for a second time after a first trial was unable to reach verdicts on those charges, surely there should have never been any doubt with the verdict...

...that her actions are horrendous is without doubt but that she didn’t plead guilty and prevent the child and his family from having to go through the court ordeal is also unforgivable...awful, awful woman...

[joeysteele]

Yes Ammi, that is despicable, that she in light of the evidence wouldn't plead guilty.

Putting as you say her victim through more trauma.
Also his family too.

I hope the sentencing will not only reflect the crime committed but also her cruelly adding to the stress.
There's perhaps reasons for letting her free until sentencing, however I wouldn't have done.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Yes Ammi, that is despicable, that she in light of the evidence wouldn't plead guilty.

Putting as you say her victim through more trauma.
Also his family too.

I hope the sentencing will not only reflect the crime committed but also her cruelly adding to the stress.
There's perhaps reasons for letting her free until sentencing, however I wouldn't have done.

...yeah, I’m hoping that the sentence will be reflective of her horrendous breach of trust, Joey...but that this is a second trial and the first being unable to reach a verdict...?...is a bit worrying ...and also that the descriptive is being reported as ‘having sex’ as opposed to rape...

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...it’s really odd and quite awful that it is being headlines as ‘having sex’ in all of the media that I can see, when in the eyes of the law, consensual sex could never have taken place...it really is making lighter of one of the most severe abuse of trusts there can be...a teacher and pupil...(..thank you for amending it, Arista...I can see that you copied the media titles, but they’re not showing accuracy or severity ...)....

Rape culture in action...

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...yeah, I’m hoping that the sentence will be reflective of her horrendous breach of trust, Joey...but that this is a second trial and the first being unable to reach a verdict...?...is a bit worrying ...also and also that the descriptive is being reported as ‘having sex’ as opposed to rape...

This is the mess that is the law sometimes.

This is a horrendous breach of trust as to her even before the detail of the crime is fully revealed.

More still needs to be looked into as to these cases, to protect the victims of these who abuse their positions of trust.

All the proceedings we haven't obviously seen.
However the conclusion of her being guilty is in place.

So I'd hope, and if I was of the prosecuting side, I'd be calling for severe sentencing.
Then there's the guidelines on sentencing too of course.

Frankly, even on the lesser count of having sex as opposed to rape.
Her conduct all through has been grossly sickening.

There's still sadly a lot that's wrong in law and much that needs addressing, particularly as to sentencing too.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

This is the mess that is the law sometimes.

This is a horrendous breach of trust as to her even before the detail of the crime is fully revealed.

More still needs to be looked into as to these cases, to protect the victims of these who abuse their positions of trust.

All the proceedings we haven't obviously seen.
However the conclusion of her being guilty is in place.

So I'd hope, and if I was of the prosecuting side, I'd be calling for severe sentencing.
Then there's the guidelines on sentencing too of course.

Frankly, even on the lesser count of having sex as opposed to rape.
Her conduct all through has been grossly sickening.

There's still sadly a lot that's wrong in law and much that needs addressing, particularly as to sentencing too.

...yeah, there is a lot of shortfalls in the law for sure and sentencing should always mean that the sentence is served, rather than only around half, served...unless there is some kind of occasional exceptional circumstances...for this, the crime itself is obviously very severe...but to add on her lack of remorse in saying that she would deny everything and then to plead not guilty and put the child and his family through that court ordeal, would indicate to me that the sentence should be fully as severe as is allowed and available in law...

[Mystic Mock]

Pedophilia bizarrely always gets short sentences by the law which is wrong to me as it is one of the worst crimes that can be committed imo.

[Toy Soldier]

There was a music teacher who had a fairly widely known about relationship with a 17 year old girl at my high school. Not statutory rape as she was technically old enough... But the older I get, the more messed up the whole thing seems. He wasn't allowed to teach at our school any more but he did carry on as a teacher elsewhere... I can only assume they both denied it and there wasn't enough proof.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

There was a music teacher who had a fairly widely known about relationship with a 17 year old girl at my high school. Not statutory rape as she was technically old enough... But the older I get, the more messed up the whole thing seems. He wasn't allowed to teach at our school any more but he did carry on as a teacher elsewhere... I can only assume they both denied it and there wasn't enough proof.

...there was something when I was at school as well, the student became pregnant at 16yrs old ...it’s quite horrifying and scary how so many of us have a personal story of ‘a case we know’, you know...leaving the feeling that such breaches of trust are not so rare...