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Samm
16-02-2021, 11:53 AM
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https://people.com/royals/oprah-announces-first-interview-meghan-markle-prince-harry/?amp=true

the people’s princess just continues to WIN!!! take down that monarchy sis

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Cherie
16-02-2021, 12:05 PM
Yes I am sure Harry would be delighted to see his elderly Grandparents dragged through the mud by his wife, seems a healthy thing to do?

I think the interview will be quite tame in all honesty

UserSince2005
16-02-2021, 12:06 PM
I think the hollywood acting classes will be useful to force some fake tears

Ammi
16-02-2021, 12:09 PM
...do we know when it’ll be screened in the U.K. and what streaming site etc...I don’t really have any comment until I’ve seen it in full and I will watch it so long it’s available for me to watch...

Cherie
16-02-2021, 12:10 PM
I think the hollywood acting classes will be useful to force some fake tears

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AnnieK
16-02-2021, 12:10 PM
Yes I am sure Harry would be delighted to see his elderly Grandparents dragged through the mud by his wife, seems a healthy thing to do?

I think the interview will be quite tame in all honesty

I agree. I don't think for one minute Meghan has any desire to bring down the Royals. She just wants to live her life the way she wants. The papers are saying this will mean there is no way back to the Royal life so maybe this will shut that avenue of attack down forever

Ammi
16-02-2021, 12:10 PM
...oh, Sunday March 7...I’ll learn to read...I don’t know if I can get CBS...

DouglasS
16-02-2021, 12:17 PM
So they want privacy yet do tonnes of public televised interviews and publicity shoots :laugh:

Basically they want all the rewards with none of the work

Crimson Dynamo
16-02-2021, 12:24 PM
I am afraid they have become a laughing stock

:(

Glenn.
16-02-2021, 12:24 PM
‘Tonnes of public televised interviews’

Where are the ton of interviews they’ve done? Can you link them for me please.

LukeB
16-02-2021, 12:25 PM
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Niamh.
16-02-2021, 12:26 PM
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rusticgal
16-02-2021, 12:28 PM
So they want privacy yet do tonnes of public televised interviews and publicity shoots :laugh:

Basically they want all the rewards with none of the work


I know the hypocrisy of it all.


Well they will have their ego's stroked by Oprah...they will get the publicity they crave.
I think this interview will be the beginning of the end...lets hope Harry remains respectful to his family.

The Slim Reaper
16-02-2021, 12:29 PM
If they want to give their side of the story, then this kind of thing was always inevitable. Folks either accept the tabloid version of them, or they can finally hear them in their own words.

rusticgal
16-02-2021, 12:30 PM
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https://people.com/royals/oprah-announces-first-interview-meghan-markle-prince-harry/?amp=true

the people’s princess just continues to WIN!!! take down that monarchy sis

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It will take more than a 'B' list actress to bring down the Royal family :laugh:....if anything it will give them more support.

Niamh.
16-02-2021, 12:33 PM
If they want to give their side of the story, then this kind of thing was always inevitable. Folks either accept the tabloid version of them, or they can finally hear them in their own words.

People will believe what they want to believe lets be real, whatever she says it will be butchered and dissected, if she put's her hand on her pregnant belly or puts her hands in her pockets etc etc etc

rusticgal
16-02-2021, 12:33 PM
If they want to give their side of the story, then this kind of thing was always inevitable. Folks either accept the tabloid version of them, or they can finally hear them in their own words.


Thats very true....but then it depends how much you choose to believe. Meghan is extremely theatrical in everything she does.

Vicky.
16-02-2021, 12:34 PM
So they want privacy yet do tonnes of public televised interviews and publicity shoots :laugh:


Chosing when to court publicity makes sense. Like, I would be happy for photoshoots (and the money from them) but would be quite unimpressed with a picture of me doing a crap to be all over the press :laugh:

Yeah the press will always be all over celebs, comes with the territory. But I still cannot really fault them for trying to have a bit of privacy..even moreso when you think that the press basically killed Harrys mother.

That said, I won't watch this I don't think. I cannot bloody stand Oprah..which might potentially be one of the most offensive posts on this site to some!

Cherie
16-02-2021, 12:35 PM
If they want to give their side of the story, then this kind of thing was always inevitable. Folks either accept the tabloid version of them, or they can finally hear them in their own words.

Given THEIR whining interview with Tom Bradbury on the SA documentary is what turned me off them and others by all accounts, this is a bit of a over simplification of what is going on

We don't all read headlines and take then to heart

Crimson Dynamo
16-02-2021, 12:35 PM
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LukeB
16-02-2021, 12:37 PM
I guess people are naive to think Meghan and Harry will ever got a private life they just want more control and freedom it's not like they are making a real housewives type show and inviting them into their house all year round 24/7. You can want privacy and still do interviews. Every celebrity wants a bit of privacy and they do interviews but no one really says anything about they but they continue to bully a pregnant woman who just had a miscarriage and continue to be toxic

Vicky.
16-02-2021, 12:38 PM
People will believe what they want to believe lets be real, whatever she says it will be butchered and dissected, if she put's her hand on her pregnant belly or puts her hands in her pockets etc etc etc

I don't much keep up with royal crap, and dont much care about the monarchy either and never have. But the..way Meghan is talked about is quite concerning to me. She literally cannot do anything right. This interview will be proof of her seeking publicity, meanwhile, if they did not do this interview, it would be 'shunning the public' or 'trying to keep an air of mystery for attention' or something similar. I know women tend to get a bad deal in the press and such, but this is on another level.

arista
16-02-2021, 12:38 PM
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rusticgal
16-02-2021, 12:39 PM
People will believe what they want to believe lets be real, whatever she says it will be butchered and dissected, if she put's her hand on her pregnant belly or puts her hands in her pockets etc etc etc


No doubt she will...I couldnt give a damn about what she does with her hands. I want to listen to what she and Harry have to say.
I think its almost a little sad its come to this for Harry....A prince of the Realm appearing on The Oprah Winfrey Show...but each to their own I guess.

rusticgal
16-02-2021, 12:40 PM
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Crimson Dynamo
16-02-2021, 12:41 PM
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once.....

UserSince2005
16-02-2021, 12:43 PM
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lol Oprah better watch her back with sue-happy Megs about.

Niamh.
16-02-2021, 12:43 PM
No doubt she will...I couldnt give a damn about what she does with her hands. I want to listen to what she and Harry have to say.
I think its almost a little sad its come to this for Harry....A prince of the Realm appearing on The Oprah Winfrey Show...but each to their own I guess.

That sounds very Game of Thrones :laugh: He's just a man.

Glenn.
16-02-2021, 12:44 PM
That sounds very Game of Thrones :laugh: He's just a man.

He isn’t! We own him so he has to do what we say!!!

LukeB
16-02-2021, 12:45 PM
I don't much keep up with royal crap, and dont much care about the monarchy either and never have. But the..way Meghan is talked about is quite concerning to me. She literally cannot do anything right. This interview will be proof of her seeking publicity, meanwhile, if they did not do this interview, it would be 'shunning the public' or 'trying to keep an air of mystery for attention' or something similar. I know women tend to get a bad deal in the press and such, but this is on another level.

:clap1:

She is held to a higher standard than anyone else it seems. The haters who want her to go away are actually the reason why she gets attention because the media jumps on the bandwagon to attack and bully. Bit weird really how someone who hasn't really done nothing bad gets people so wound up and she lives in peoples head rent free.

Niamh.
16-02-2021, 12:51 PM
He isn’t! We own him so he has to do what we say!!!

:laugh: Yeah I just always found the Royal stuff weird and really out dated but it's not my country so not my business. I suppose it's probably good for Tourism, does it balance what they cost the Tax Payer?

Glenn.
16-02-2021, 12:51 PM
The royals rake in tons of cash for the country yeah. But that’s no excuse for the strange sense of ownership. Even stranger when Harry isn’t a working royal anymore. You’d think people would let them be but here we are.

Brother Leon
16-02-2021, 12:54 PM
Kinda wish they weren’t giving Oprah the exclusive. Something really doesn’t sit right with her for me. That said, I’m here for the fumes.

LukeB
16-02-2021, 12:54 PM
That sounds very Game of Thrones :laugh: He's just a man.

He isn’t! We own him so he has to do what we say!!!

Reminds me when people cried at Meghan 'stealing' Harry away from them like he was their toy.

AnnieK
16-02-2021, 12:55 PM
Diana did an interview to try and get her side across after her split with Charles....Harry could be just following her lead. :shrug:

I'm sure he wouldn't agree to something he didn't want to do....not matter what anyone thinks

Niamh.
16-02-2021, 12:56 PM
The royals rake in tons of cash for the country yeah. But that’s no excuse for the strange sense of ownership. Even stranger when Harry isn’t a working royal anymore. You’d think people would let them be but here we are.

Well especially since he's never going to be King anyway, it's not like his great grand uncle who gave up the throne or anything

joeysteele
16-02-2021, 12:59 PM
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Very strong that Luke.
Thank you for digging it out and posting it.

Crimson Dynamo
16-02-2021, 12:59 PM
Kinda wish they weren’t giving Oprah the exclusive. Something really doesn’t sit right with her for me. That said, I’m here for the fumes.

Maybe its her friend circle.....?

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Cherie
16-02-2021, 01:00 PM
Maybe its her friend circle.....?

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well then

UserSince2005
16-02-2021, 01:01 PM
Maybe its her friend circle.....?

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Oprah is lucky shes butt ugly.

LukeB
16-02-2021, 01:02 PM
Diana did an interview to try and get her side across after her split with Charles....Harry could be just following her lead. :shrug:

I'm sure he wouldn't agree to something he didn't want to do....not matter what anyone thinks

Exactly

As I said before though it's not like they are doing a real housewives type show which will be inviting us to their lives which actually would make them hypocrites but a interview doesn't. Every celebrity wants privacy that's common knowledge because media are trash but they still do interviews about something bad or good and they do more TV interviews than Meghan and Harry. A very rare TV interview coming from the couple :laugh:

The Slim Reaper
16-02-2021, 01:02 PM
Given THEIR whining interview with Tom Bradbury on the SA documentary is what turned me off them and others by all accounts, this is a bit of a over simplification of what is going on

We don't all read headlines and take then to heart

I'll be honest, I didn't watch the interview you're talking about, and I probably wont watch this Oprah thing either, barring a few clips that get posted in one of the 364523654326457645276454762576 Meghan threads. If for no other reason than fairness though, shouldn't people want to hear what they have to say when they're already so invested in filling in the blanks for how they live their lives?

I've seen accomplished people from all walks of life give bad interviews, so judging them by that seems a bit shallow.

Vicky.
16-02-2021, 01:04 PM
Diana did an interview to try and get her side across after her split with Charles....Harry could be just following her lead. :shrug:

I'm sure he wouldn't agree to something he didn't want to do....not matter what anyone thinks

I agree with this. Like, the constant 'its her, trying to separate him from his family!' stuff kind of rests on the assumption he is a meek little pussycat, doing everything this evil woman tells him to and pretending he agrees.

Crimson Dynamo
16-02-2021, 01:04 PM
Someone on Twitter called the pair
The Duke of Netflix and Woke-o Moano

:joker:

Samm
16-02-2021, 01:06 PM
Maybe its her friend circle.....?

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Yeah maybe

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Ammi
16-02-2021, 01:10 PM
So they want privacy yet do tonnes of public televised interviews and publicity shoots :laugh:

Basically they want all the rewards with none of the work

...they are working...they’re working for themselves in their own company, rather than be an employee and ‘owned’ by a company ....privacy is not something that any of us feel it’s a right to take, it’s only something that is a right to give..

Ammi
16-02-2021, 01:11 PM
...Samm, I’m coming up there to get the large picture/page stretcher police...don’t make me do that...:laugh:...

Cherie
16-02-2021, 01:12 PM
I'll be honest, I didn't watch the interview you're talking abut, and I probably wont watch this Oprah thing either, barring a few clips that get posted in one of the 364523654326457645276454762576 Meghan threads. If for no other reason than fairness though, shouldn't people want to hear what they have to say when they're already so invested in filling in the blanks for how they live their lives?

I've seen accomplished people from all walks of life give bad interviews, so judging them by that seems a bit shallow.

Its not shallow,because it was followed up

by save the planet Harry...don't fly peasants

then the announcement where they bypassed the Queen and posted their plans on Insta and the whole Sussex Brand thing

then the 'move' to Canada, and another move during first lockdown, if you are for all for the planet that much could you not have moved just the once

and a myriad of other hypocrital things they just keep on doing

There are plenty Royals who manage to live pretty private lives and no one bothers with them because they don't keep popping up preaching what you should do and don't do, if Harry and Megs had done the same, they could disappear as well :shrug:

On the one hand you are saying watch Oprah so you get it from the horses mouth, on the other you are calling me shallow from watching and making a judgement from the horses mouth on the SA doc, make your mind up?


I know the narrative would be much easier to just call me a racist and be done with it but its not quite that simple :laugh:

Ammi
16-02-2021, 01:12 PM
...oh, you spoilered...marvellous...:lovedup:..

Ammi
16-02-2021, 01:13 PM
People will believe what they want to believe lets be real, whatever she says it will be butchered and dissected, if she put's her hand on her pregnant belly or puts her hands in her pockets etc etc etc

...all of this..

Vicky.
16-02-2021, 01:15 PM
There are plenty Royals who manage to live pretty private lives and no one bothers with them because they don't keep popping up preaching what you should do and don't do, if Harry and Megs had done the same, they could disappear as well :shrug:



The ones who can disappear, are..not so well known though.
Meghan and Harry attempting to get total privacy from the press..wouldn't even work if they moved to a deserted island. The drones would be following them snapping pics :laugh:

LukeB
16-02-2021, 01:16 PM
The ones who can disappear, are..not so well known though.
Meghan and Harry attempting to get total privacy from the press..wouldn't even work if they moved to a deserted island. The drones would be following them snapping pics :laugh:

:laugh: Why is it so hard for people to understand that :skull:

Ammi
16-02-2021, 01:18 PM
Thats very true....but then it depends how much you choose to believe. Meghan is extremely theatrical in everything she does.

...but you weren’t familiar with her pregnancy pic and that it’s something that people can commonly do now, have that type of more personal pose...and you maybe thought that be an ‘extremely theatrical Meghan, type thing’ if you hadn’t seen anything similar before...but it’s actually just a commonplace thing that would probably not been thought anything of, had it not been Meghan and Harry and how they announced it...

Cherie
16-02-2021, 01:19 PM
The ones who can disappear, are..not so well known though.
Meghan and Harry attempting to get total privacy from the press..wouldn't even work if they moved to a deserted island. The drones would be following them snapping pics :laugh:

They could easily, they were in Canada for six weeks and the press didn't touch them and no one was any the wiser, this was before it all blew up and they said they were leaving

LukeB
16-02-2021, 01:26 PM
They could easily, they were in Canada for six weeks and the press didn't touch them and no one was any the wiser, this was before it all blew up and they said they were leaving

Yes that was before the media jumped on the bandwagon to bully them and now it's really impossible for them to have the privacy they want. It's not really that hard to understand tbh.

Crimson Dynamo
16-02-2021, 01:27 PM
nothing says "we want privacy" more than a 90 minute cringe-fest with the queen of mawkish narcissism Oprah

:laugh:

Samm
16-02-2021, 01:28 PM
...Samm, I’m coming up there to get the large picture/page stretcher police...don’t make me do that...:laugh:...

sorry babe xx

Cherie
16-02-2021, 01:29 PM
Yeah maybe

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and the prize for the most tenous rebuttal goes to????

what is that meant to prove? Harry and Megs are not friends with Donnie :laugh:

Cherie
16-02-2021, 01:30 PM
Yes that was before the media jumped on the bandwagon to bully them and now it's really impossible for them to have the privacy they want. It's not really that hard to understand tbh.

well no because they lost press protection and the Palace is letting them fend for themselves, you reap what you sow and all that

If they had gone about leaving in the right way in the first place instead of throwing toys out of prams it might all have been very different.

Vicky.
16-02-2021, 01:31 PM
well no because they lost press protection and the Palace is letting them fend for themselves, you reap what you sow and all that

...this is kind of admitting that whatever they do, they cannot avoid press though?

Kazanne
16-02-2021, 01:32 PM
No doubt she will...I couldnt give a damn about what she does with her hands. I want to listen to what she and Harry have to say.
I think its almost a little sad its come to this for Harry....A prince of the Realm appearing on The Oprah Winfrey Show...but each to their own I guess.

Not sure its a good move as when Michael Jackson did his interview with Oprah ,people still believed all the gossip about him ,it didn't matter what HE said I think it just depends on the person on whether you like them or not to start with .Personally ,I don't really care what they do, but have to admit i find it strange they want to do this.:wavey:

Crimson Dynamo
16-02-2021, 01:39 PM
as Piers wrote:

"BREAKING: Harry & Meghan have announced they’re pregnant and released this cheesy photo of themselves to ensure the media gives the story about their private life more prominence - in their latest courageous effort to stop the same media focusing on their private life."

checkmate

The Slim Reaper
16-02-2021, 01:40 PM
Its not shallow,because it was followed up

by save the planet Harry...don't fly peasants

then the announcement where they bypassed the Queen and posted their plans on Insta and the whole Sussex Brand thing

then the 'move' to Canada, and another move during first lockdown, if you are for all for the planet that much could you not have moved just the once

and a myriad of other hypocrital things they just keep on doing

There are plenty Royals who manage to live pretty private lives and no one bothers with them because they don't keep popping up preaching what you should do and don't do, if Harry and Megs had done the same, they could disappear as well :shrug:

On the one hand you are saying watch Oprah so you get it from the horses mouth, on the other you are calling me shallow from watching and making a judgement from the horses mouth on the SA doc, make your mind up?


I know the narrative would be much easier to just call me a racist and be done with it but its not quite that simple :laugh:

I wasn't calling you shallow, and I definitely had no intention of calling you a racist. I was saying that judging them (or me, or you, or anyone) on the basis of one interview is shallow, and I think that would be a pretty hard thing to argue against.


So to recap, the reasons you don't like them are

Bad interview
Instagram announcement
Showed concern for the environment but still fly themselves
Moved during lockdown
Myriad of unspecified other hypocritical acts
Other royals

I'm not trying to change your mind on them, you're an adult with enough upstairs to make your own decisions. I didn't reply to you, you decided to reply to me by inferring all these things about the intent of my post, when all I really said was if the forum is that invested in these 2, shouldn't the chance to see them in their own words be more useful than pretending some on here have an inside track to their innermost thoughts and desires (again, not you, but generally).

I'm just baffled if I'm honest, and my view is that most of the people arguing in these threads aren't arguing over evidence or facts, it's just become a way for a watered down tibb (compared to the old days), where people that don't really like each other have an excuse and a platform for an argument. Just talking in general terms here, and not about you or any other individual. I don't think they were always like this, i think that's just how the debate (I use that word extremely lightly) has evolved.

These threads are weird entertainment to me.

Personally, I think they're judged really harshly, and there are some definite racial undertones to the campaign against them. Not necessarily on here, but in the media, where most of the opinions on them are derived from, and the Meghan/Kate comparisons in the daily mail make this so blatantly obvious, that I'd actually like to see someone argue against that fact.

LukeB
16-02-2021, 01:42 PM
I'm not surprised at people taking hypocrite Piers Morgan who is obsessed and an awful bully as gospel

Tom4784
16-02-2021, 01:43 PM
Megan continues to live in Piers' mind rent free. He's so obsessed with her, it's pathetic.

LukeB
16-02-2021, 01:44 PM
Megan continues to live in Piers' mind rent free. He's so obsessed with her, it's pathetic.

And he has the cheek to call Meghan an hypocrite when he went abroad during christmas and he slated people for breaking rules.

Tom4784
16-02-2021, 01:46 PM
And he has the cheek to call Meghan an hypocrite when he went abroad during christmas when he slated people for breaking rules.

He's a repugnant hypocritical beast through and through.

arista
16-02-2021, 01:46 PM
And he has the cheek to call Meghan an hypocrite when he went abroad during christmas when he slated people for breaking rules.


He will not stop.

Niamh.
16-02-2021, 01:47 PM
Not sure its a good move as when Michael Jackson did his interview with Oprah ,people still believed all the gossip about him ,it didn't matter what HE said I think it just depends on the person on whether you like them or not to start with .Personally ,I don't really care what they do, but have to admit i find it strange they want to do this.:wavey:

Michael Jackson was accused of being a paedophile though........bit of a difference there

Tom4784
16-02-2021, 01:49 PM
Meghan being compared to someone accused of being a peadophile.... And people wonder why the couple don't want anything to do with the UK.

rusticgal
16-02-2021, 01:51 PM
...but you weren’t familiar with her pregnancy pic and that it’s something that people can commonly do now, have that type of more personal pose...and you maybe thought that be an ‘extremely theatrical Meghan, type thing’ if you hadn’t seen anything similar before...but it’s actually just a commonplace thing that would probably not been thought anything of, had it not been Meghan and Harry and how they announced it...


Believe me I am not basing it on the pregnancy picture. Its the way she presents herself in interviews and these podcasts and the Documentry...I read the full context of her fathers letter...the way she told the world about her miscarriage...everything she does comes across as something out of a Barbra Cartland novel...its theatrical and dramatic just like the photo :laugh:

Tom4784
16-02-2021, 01:52 PM
Believe me I am not basing it on the pregnancy picture. Its the way she presents herself in interviews and these podcasts and the Documentry...I read the full context of her fathers letter...the way she told the world about her miscarriage...everything she does comes across as something out of a Barbra Cartland novel...its theatrical and dramatic just like the photo :laugh:

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Kazanne
16-02-2021, 01:52 PM
Michael Jackson was accused of being a paedophile though........bit of a difference there

He was also found not guilty, all I am saying is what you touched on, people will just believe what they want depending on who they like and don't like.

Kazanne
16-02-2021, 01:54 PM
Meghan being compared to someone accused of being a peadophile.... And people wonder why the couple don't want anything to do with the UK.

No one compared her ,can you read ? pfft

Tom4784
16-02-2021, 01:54 PM
I just can't at judging someone as being 'theatrical' for coming telling people they've suffered a miscarriage....

Tom4784
16-02-2021, 01:57 PM
No one compared her ,can you read ? pfft

Much better than you it seems.

You brought up a suspected peadophile as a reason for her not to do the interview, it's a comparison whether you acknowledge it or not. 'A suspected peadophile didn't benefit from doing this interview so Meghan shouldn't do it.'

Take a seat.

Niamh.
16-02-2021, 01:58 PM
He was also found not guilty, all I am saying is what you touched on, people will just believe what they want depending on who they like and don't like.

Still don't think it's a fair comparison, you're talking about on the one hand a guy who's accused of terrible crimes...actual crimes and the other a couple who have a bit of a family feud going on and are victims of a lot of tabloid gossip. And for what it's worth, I actually did like Michael Jackson when I was younger so I didn't just not believe him because I didn't like him, in fact by that logic I should have believed him. I didn't believe him because he surrounded himself with little boys and had them sleep over, encouraged their parents to leave them there alone with him etc. I don't give a **** what a court says, that's about as suspicious as it gets.

rusticgal
16-02-2021, 02:02 PM
I just can't at judging someone as being 'theatrical' for coming telling people they've suffered a miscarriage....


:joker:

Tom4784
16-02-2021, 02:04 PM
:joker:

It's honestly disgusting, Rustic. It truly is.

rusticgal
16-02-2021, 02:05 PM
Much better than you it seems.

You brought up a suspected peadophile as a reason for her not to do the interview, it's a comparison whether you acknowledge it or not. 'A suspected peadophile didn't benefit from doing this interview so Meghan shouldn't do it.'

Take a seat.


You are twisting and missing the whole point again....its quite apparent the point Kazanne is trying to make..

Tom4784
16-02-2021, 02:06 PM
You are twisting and missing the whole point again....its quite apparent the point Kazanne is trying to make..

Nope, she brought up a suspected peadophile as an argument to why Meghan shouldn't do the interview, it's a comparison whether she intended it or not.

rusticgal
16-02-2021, 02:07 PM
It's honestly disgusting, Rustic. It truly is.


It was referring to one of her 'many' speeches and articles..the miscarriage article just happened to be one of them. See the bigger picture.

Tom4784
16-02-2021, 02:10 PM
It was referring to one of her 'many' speeches and articles..the miscarriage article just happened to be one of them. See the bigger picture.

You're slating someone for announcing their miscarriage in a way you didn't like. It's their pain, their trauma, their loss. How they deal with it or choose to announce it as their own decision. It's disgusting that you'd bring it up, it's vile that you see it as something to attack her with.

You can downplay it, you can throw insults that I'm not seeing the bigger picture when what you're saying isn't that deep, but you said what you said.

Nicky91
16-02-2021, 02:12 PM
i thought they wanted to get out of the publicity :unsure:

Kazanne
16-02-2021, 02:13 PM
You are twisting and missing the whole point again....its quite apparent the point Kazanne is trying to make..

Its always the same rusti thats why I dont bother much anymore some people always like to find the negative in posts,i was indeed on about the interview and imo it would not do them any favours,but hey ho par for the course again,lol:wavey:

LukeB
16-02-2021, 02:13 PM
i thought they wanted to get out of the publicity :unsure:

It's not that hard to understand they want privacy from all the media attacks they have who are continuing to bully a pregnant woman who just suffered a miscarriage but her haters have no issue with that.


They are not inviting us into their houses for a RTV show. A rare tv interview is no big deal

Nicky91
16-02-2021, 02:15 PM
It's not that hard to understand they want privacy from all the media attacks they have who are continuing to bully a pregnant woman who just suffered a miscarriage but her haters have no issue with that.

not haters, they are more Pro-Thomas Markle i think

LukeB
16-02-2021, 02:16 PM
not haters, they are more Pro-Thomas Markle i think

Like they even care about Thomas, it's all fake. Just something to try and destroy a woman

Tom4784
16-02-2021, 02:18 PM
No one is pro-Thomas Markle. He's a terrible father, and an obvious gaslighter that clearly sees his daughter as a paycheque. If he wasn't Meghan's dad, he'd be hated by people who make him out to be a victim.

rusticgal
16-02-2021, 02:27 PM
It's not that hard to understand they want privacy from all the media attacks they have who are continuing to bully a pregnant woman who just suffered a miscarriage but her haters have no issue with that.


They are not inviting us into their houses for a RTV show. A rare tv interview is no big deal


Maybe the pregnant lady who recently suffered a miscarriage should stop putting herself through a load of unnecessary stress trying to convince everyone how hard done by she is....or whatever other message she wants to put across.
If I had suffered a miscarriage and then blessed with another pregnancy (which did happen in my life) I would not be putting myself through an interview process which could cause them more distress. I would be busying myself at home with my other child and put my feet up and look forward to the safe arrival of a much wanted second child.

LukeB
16-02-2021, 02:33 PM
Maybe the pregnant lady who recently suffered a miscarriage should stop putting herself through a load of unnecessary stress trying to convince everyone how hard done by she is....or whatever other message she wants to put across.
If I had suffered a miscarriage and then blessed with another pregnancy (which did happen in my life) I would not be putting myself through an interview process which could cause them more distress. I would be busying myself at home with my other child and put my feet up and look forward to the safe arrival of a much wanted second child.

It's almost like you are trying to blame her for a potential miscarriage and condoning media's bullying antics which is pretty gross. I know you don't like the girl but you are going way too far. She doesn't need to convince because everyone can see it.People should be able to whatever they want without the unnessary attacks. She would will still be attacked for not annoucing anything.

Tom4784
16-02-2021, 02:34 PM
The attacks will continue regardless, let's not pretend that the stress is of her own doing when an entire country's media industry is attacking her relentlessly. If she can find a good platform and say her piece than that will do more good for her mental state than being told to stay quiet and suffer in silence by not doing anything about it.

LukeB
16-02-2021, 02:35 PM
The attacks will continue regardless, let's not pretend that the stress is of her own doing when an entire country's media industry is attacking her relentlessly. If she can find a good platform and say her piece than that will do more good for her mental state than being told to stay quiet and suffer in silence by not doing anything about it.

:clap1: honestly people need to wake up and smell the coffee and stop being so naive :skull:

bots
16-02-2021, 02:37 PM
An example of a royal keeping their head down is Prince Andrew. He doesn't receive much press attention, purely because he hasn't invited it. When he previously did the interview, all hell was let loose. There is a very clear lesson there

rusticgal
16-02-2021, 02:38 PM
You're slating someone for announcing their miscarriage in a way you didn't like. It's their pain, their trauma, their loss. How they deal with it or choose to announce it as their own decision. It's disgusting that you'd bring it up, it's vile that you see it as something to attack her with.

You can downplay it, you can throw insults that I'm not seeing the bigger picture when what you're saying isn't that deep, but you said what you said.


Im not insulting anyone...Im giving an opinion and supporting my point of how dramatic and theatrical she is...It was THEIR pain and THEIR trauma but they chose to share it with everyone in an article that was like reading a novel.

Crimson Dynamo
16-02-2021, 02:40 PM
"It's not an interview really, is it?!': Eamonn Holmes SLAMS Meghan and Harry's tell-all TV
special with 'mate' Oprah which he brands an 'advert'

'Meghan's mum stayed with Oprah at her home as a house guest. So it's not an interview
as such.'

The Popular TV host also called Markle "Uppity"

https://www.hellomagazine.com/imagenes/celebrities/2020020284109/this-morning-eamonn-holmes-tribute-following-shock-death/0-404-667/eamonn-holmes-tribute-sad-death-t.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9265613/Eamonn-Holmes-SLAMS-Meghan-Prince-Harrys-tell-TV-special-mate-Oprah.html

Niamh.
16-02-2021, 02:41 PM
An example of a royal keeping their head down is Prince Andrew. He doesn't receive much press attention, purely because he hasn't invited it. When he previously did the interview, all hell was let loose. There is a very clear lesson there

He has a massive reason to keep his head down though doesn't he? Him sticking his head out again might result in him being further implicated in crimes.

Harry and Meghan have nothing to hide from or be ashamed of

The Slim Reaper
16-02-2021, 02:41 PM
An example of a royal keeping their head down is Prince Andrew. He doesn't receive much press attention, purely because he hasn't invited it. When he previously did the interview, all hell was let loose. There is a very clear lesson there

Don't rape kids?

bots
16-02-2021, 02:43 PM
He has a massive reason to keep his head down though doesn't he? Him sticking his head out again might result in him being further implicated in crimes.

Harry and Meghan have nothing to hide from or be ashamed of

the point is that it's easy to avoid press attention if that is your plan, royal or not.

Niamh.
16-02-2021, 02:43 PM
"It's not an interview really, is it?!': Eamonn Holmes SLAMS Meghan and Harry's tell-all TV
special with 'mate' Oprah which he brands an 'advert'

'Meghan's mum stayed with Oprah at her home as a house guest. So it's not an interview
as such.'

The Popular TV host also called Markle "Uppity"

https://www.hellomagazine.com/imagenes/celebrities/2020020284109/this-morning-eamonn-holmes-tribute-following-shock-death/0-404-667/eamonn-holmes-tribute-sad-death-t.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9265613/Eamonn-Holmes-SLAMS-Meghan-Prince-Harrys-tell-TV-special-mate-Oprah.html

Nice choice of words their by Eamonn........

LukeB
16-02-2021, 02:44 PM
the point is that it's easy to avoid press attention if that is your plan, royal or not.

Not really easy for everyone though.

Crimson Dynamo
16-02-2021, 02:44 PM
"The interview will be staged in two parts, with Meghan first speaking about everything
from 'stepping into life as a royal, marriage, motherhood, philanthropic work to how she
is handling life under intense public pressure'.


She will then be joined by Harry and the couple will speak about their move last year
and their future 'hopes and dreams for their expanding family'.


Titled 'Oprah With Meghan And Harry: A CBS Primetime Special', the programme will air on March 7."

Niamh.
16-02-2021, 02:45 PM
the point is that it's easy to avoid press attention if that is your plan, royal or not.

In Andrews case it's in hiding more than living a quiet life, lets be honest, no one who's done nothing to be ashamed of should have to live in the shadows like that creep

Tom4784
16-02-2021, 02:46 PM
An example of a royal keeping their head down is Prince Andrew. He doesn't receive much press attention, purely because he hasn't invited it. When he previously did the interview, all hell was let loose. There is a very clear lesson there

He's being protected, that's why.

Harry and Meghan will never know peace from the press regardless of what they do, the best they can hope for is to control the narrative and co-operate on their terms.

rusticgal
16-02-2021, 02:50 PM
It's almost like you are trying to blame her for a potential miscarriage and condoning media's bullying antics which is pretty gross. I know you don't like the girl but you are going way too far. She doesn't need to convince because everyone can see it.People should be able to whatever they want without the unnessary attacks. She would will still be attacked for not annoucing anything.


I was responding to your reply to Nicky...its in context. You were talking about their desire for privacy and the press bullying a pregnant lady.
I know she can do what she wants....but wouldnt you just think that a woman who had gone through a traumatic miscarriage and now blessed with a healthy pregnancy would just stay out of the limelight instead of putting herself out there for the possibility of more negativity and possibly more stress?. I mean thats just common sense right?
Where do I condone the medias bully antics?....

Tom4784
16-02-2021, 02:50 PM
Im not insulting anyone...Im giving an opinion and supporting my point of how dramatic and theatrical she is...It was THEIR pain and THEIR trauma but they chose to share it with everyone in an article that was like reading a novel.

Why shouldn't she? We encourage people to speak out because it (should) help with awareness and empathy. By speaking out about her struggles of motherhood, or of her miscarriage, she's bringing to light that such issues can affect anyone, and such articles can help people understand the pain involved in such a loss but also help those that have suffered it feel less alone.

By making out that she's being 'theatrical' in talking about her trauma, you're invalidating it, you're making light of it.

rusticgal
16-02-2021, 02:51 PM
An example of a royal keeping their head down is Prince Andrew. He doesn't receive much press attention, purely because he hasn't invited it. When he previously did the interview, all hell was let loose. There is a very clear lesson there

Exactly...it can be done.

Niamh.
16-02-2021, 02:52 PM
Exactly...it can be done.

When you have to go into hiding because of possible sexual assaults you've committed.........

rusticgal
16-02-2021, 02:57 PM
He has a massive reason to keep his head down though doesn't he? Him sticking his head out again might result in him being further implicated in crimes.

Harry and Meghan have nothing to hide from or be ashamed of



Yes he does....and if you desire privacy it can also be done...I think thats the point. Of course Harry and Meghan will attract more press attention...but if you keep putting yourself out there the more you are going to get.
Anyway...mus get my ironing done :laugh:

rusticgal
16-02-2021, 02:58 PM
Why shouldn't she? We encourage people to speak out because it (should) help with awareness and empathy. By speaking out about her struggles of motherhood, or of her miscarriage, she's bringing to light that such issues can affect anyone, and such articles can help people understand the pain involved in such a loss but also help those that have suffered it feel less alone.

By making out that she's being 'theatrical' in talking about her trauma, you're invalidating it, you're making light of it.


I have suffered a miscarriage...so I wouldnt make light of it. :nono:

Niamh.
16-02-2021, 02:58 PM
Yes he does....and if you desire privacy it can also be done...I think thats the point. Of course Harry and Meghan will attract more press attention...but if you keep putting yourself out there the more you are going to get.
Anyway...mus get my ironing done :laugh:

Sure they could go into full lock down and sneak around in the shadows but that isn't much better is it? Not much of a life. I'm sure they just want a happy balance

Tom4784
16-02-2021, 02:59 PM
It can be done... when you are a peadophile that's protected by the system...

But Meghan is so much worse! She's a mixed race american that dared marry a prince! So much worse than a peadophile! Let's direct all that hate towards her and ignore the palace protecting a monster in their midst!

Tom4784
16-02-2021, 03:00 PM
I have suffered a miscarriage...so I wouldnt make light of it. :nono:

But you did, you invalidated her trauma by making out that she was being theatrical by telling her story.

arista
16-02-2021, 03:01 PM
I just can't at judging someone as being 'theatrical' for coming telling people they've suffered a miscarriage....

Yes its Tough


But now they get Cash
for telling the USA public
how nasty the UK royals are.

Niamh.
16-02-2021, 03:02 PM
Yes its Tough


But now they get Cash
for telling the USA public
how nasty the UK royals are.

Have you had a sneak preview Arista?

Josy
16-02-2021, 03:09 PM
Meghan being hated on for making the public aware of her miscarriage is possibly one of the lowest and most ridiculous reasons I've seen for disliking her yet.

Cherie
16-02-2021, 03:10 PM
...this is kind of admitting that whatever they do, they cannot avoid press though?

Not in my view, they commented in the US election for example, where was the need for that? That is what I meant by you reap what you sow

rusticgal
16-02-2021, 03:12 PM
But you did, you invalidated her trauma by making out that she was being theatrical by telling her story.


It was nothing to do with THE story...how am I invalidating her trauma?...it was the way it was worded :facepalm:

rusticgal
16-02-2021, 03:16 PM
Meghan being hated on for making the public aware of her miscarriage is possibly one of the lowest and most ridiculous reasons I've seen for disliking her yet.


If thats aimed at me...I never said I dislike her for making the public aware of her miscarriage.

LukeB
16-02-2021, 03:20 PM
On the note of it not being that easy for Meghan to get away from the media I remember a story last year where some men from the media who i find creepy managed to get pictures of Archie in the garden without consent. Meghan doesn't put him out there.

Tom4784
16-02-2021, 03:25 PM
Meghan will never be able to keep away from the press, she and Harry are too profitable for them. It's the height of naivete to think they could just shut up and be left alone, like there won't be cameras aimed their way wherever they go.

If you can't force the media to leave you alone, your only option is to control how much of an impact they have on your life, otherwise they'll be in control.

Niamh.
16-02-2021, 03:30 PM
Meghan will never be able to keep away from the press, she and Harry are too profitable for them. It's the height of naivete to think they could just shut up and be left alone, like there won't be cameras aimed their way wherever they go.

If you can't force the media to leave you alone, your only option is to control how much of an impact they have on your life, otherwise they'll be in control.

Exactly. The only way they could really do that is never go outside their walls again, why would anyone want to put themselves in to a self made prison?

arista
16-02-2021, 03:42 PM
Have you had a sneak preview Arista?


Its 90mins long

joeysteele
16-02-2021, 03:45 PM
Exactly. The only way they could really do that is never go outside their walls again, why would anyone want to put themselves in to a self made prison?

Exactly this.
I'd also add of my own view, who are the people who would want anyone who hadn't done anything wrong, to have to do that either.
That would speak even more volumes.

Crimson Dynamo
16-02-2021, 03:54 PM
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Ammi
16-02-2021, 03:57 PM
...I mean, even outside of the U.K. media, there would be world media trying to get that first photo of Meghan in her pregnancy...so they released the photo that they wanted to release...and their announcement was actually quite short and simple and didn’t have any detail, really ..
or anything ‘flowery’ etc...”we can confirm that Archie is going to be a big brother. The Duke and Duchess of Sussex are overjoyed to be expecting their second child."


....a USA media article translated the headline to this...for instance..?..

Duchess Meghan pregnant with Baby No. 2 with Prince Harry; reveal has a connection to Diana


...but for many U.K. media, their announcement was translated to this...

"Publicity-Shy Woman Tells 7.67 BN People: I'm Pregnant."



...I mean, it’s just totally impossible to say that Meghan in particular isn’t subjected to extreme negative media whatever she does and whatever she says...because she’s already done wrong and can’t win before she says it and before she does it...found guilty before tried, as it were...

rusticgal
16-02-2021, 03:59 PM
Meghan will never be able to keep away from the press, she and Harry are too profitable for them. It's the height of naivete to think they could just shut up and be left alone, like there won't be cameras aimed their way wherever they go.

If you can't force the media to leave you alone, your only option is to control how much of an impact they have on your life, otherwise they'll be in control.


Lets be honest here...Meghan loves the press...she courts the press...she simply doesnt like negative press....I mean who does :shrug: As I have said 100 times before anyone who puts themselves out in the public eye with podcasts etc etc etc...you will have people that like you and some that dont.

Crimson Dynamo
16-02-2021, 04:01 PM
Markle is also turning to investing — and is an angel investor in woman-owned coffee brand Clevr, which Winfrey promoted to her 19 million Instagram followers.

https://pagesix.com/2021/02/14/meghan-markle-is-pregnant-expecting-second-child-with-prince-harry/

:whistle:

LukeB
16-02-2021, 04:02 PM
...I mean, even outside of the U.K. media, there would be world media trying to get that first photo of Meghan in her pregnancy...so they released the photo that they wanted to release...and their announcement was actually quite short and simple and didn’t have any detail, really ..
or anything ‘flowery’ etc...”we can confirm that Archie is going to be a big brother. The Duke and Duchess of Sussex are overjoyed to be expecting their second child."


....a USA media article translated the headline to this...for instance..?..

Duchess Meghan pregnant with Baby No. 2 with Prince Harry; reveal has a connection to Diana


...but for many U.K. media, their announcement was translated to this...

"Publicity-Shy Woman Tells 7.67 BN People: I'm Pregnant."



...I mean, it’s just totally impossible to say that Meghan in particular isn’t subjected to extreme negative media whatever she does and whatever she says...because she’s already done wrong and can’t win before she says it and before she does it...found guilty before tried, as it were...

Ammi speaking sense as always :love:

Niamh.
16-02-2021, 04:04 PM
Markle is also turning to investing — and is an angel investor in woman-owned coffee brand Clevr, which Winfrey promoted to her 19 million Instagram followers.

https://pagesix.com/2021/02/14/meghan-markle-is-pregnant-expecting-second-child-with-prince-harry/

:whistle:

So what? Jesus Christ

Glenn.
16-02-2021, 04:06 PM
Lets be honest here...Meghan loves the press...she courts the press...she simply doesnt like negative press....I mean who does :shrug: As I have said 100 times before anyone who puts themselves out in the public eye with podcasts etc etc etc...you will have people that like you and some that dont.

Do you know Meghan personally to make that assumption? How do YOU know she ‘loves the press’?

Sounds likes your just making more assumptions to suit your agenda.

rusticgal
16-02-2021, 04:12 PM
...I mean, even outside of the U.K. media, there would be world media trying to get that first photo of Meghan in her pregnancy...so they released the photo that they wanted to release...and their announcement was actually quite short and simple and didn’t have any detail, really ..
or anything ‘flowery’ etc...”we can confirm that Archie is going to be a big brother. The Duke and Duchess of Sussex are overjoyed to be expecting their second child."


....a USA media article translated the headline to this...for instance..?..

Duchess Meghan pregnant with Baby No. 2 with Prince Harry; reveal has a connection to Diana


...but for many U.K. media, their announcement was translated to this...

"Publicity-Shy Woman Tells 7.67 BN People: I'm Pregnant."



...I mean, it’s just totally impossible to say that Meghan in particular isn’t subjected to extreme negative media whatever she does and whatever she says...because she’s already done wrong and can’t win before she says it and before she does it...found guilty before tried, as it were...


The Sun and Star etc have been putting out ****e headlines for years...why anyone takes them seriously beats me.
I am sure there are newspapers that equate in the U.S....then again every Tom Dick and Harry sue for just about everythng over there and it can come at a big price.

rusticgal
16-02-2021, 04:13 PM
Do you know Meghan personally to make that assumption? How do YOU know she ‘loves the press’?

Sounds likes your just making more assumptions to suit your agenda.



:joker:

Crimson Dynamo
16-02-2021, 04:22 PM
It’s only been ten months since Prince Harry and Meghan Markle announced they were
leaving the British royal family in search of “privacy”


---------------------------------------------------
August 2020 Finding Freedom is published - Sunday Times number 1 bestselling biography that tells the real story of Harry and Meghan’s life together
--------------------------------------------------

CBS said in a statement: ‘Winfrey will speak with Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex, in a wide-ranging 90 MINUTE interview, covering everything from stepping into life as a Royal, marriage
, motherhood, philanthropic work to how she is handling life under intense public ressure. Later, the two are joined by Prince Harry as they speak about their move to the
United States and their future hopes and dreams for their expanding family.’


https://thumbs.gfycat.com/HairyImpeccableIndianhare-size_restricted.gif

rusticgal
16-02-2021, 04:33 PM
It’s only been ten months since Prince Harry and Meghan Markle announced they were
leaving the British royal family in search of “privacy”


---------------------------------------------------
August 2020 Finding Freedom is published - Sunday Times number 1 bestselling biography that tells the real story of Harry and Meghan’s life together
--------------------------------------------------

CBS said in a statement: ‘Winfrey will speak with Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex, in a wide-ranging 90 MINUTE interview, covering everything from stepping into life as a Royal, marriage
, motherhood, philanthropic work to how she is handling life under intense public ressure. Later, the two are joined by Prince Harry as they speak about their move to the
United States and their future hopes and dreams for their expanding family.’


https://thumbs.gfycat.com/HairyImpeccableIndianhare-size_restricted.gif


Harry...the guest :laugh:

GoldHeart
16-02-2021, 07:07 PM
I know the hypocrisy of it all.


Well they will have their ego's stroked by Oprah...they will get the publicity they crave.
I think this interview will be the beginning of the end...lets hope Harry remains respectful to his family.

What hypocrisy??
Why do you care so much what Harry & Meghan are doing whether it's a photo shoot or an interview??.

rusticgal
16-02-2021, 07:35 PM
What hypocrisy??
Why do you care so much what Harry & Meghan are doing whether it's a photo shoot or an interview??.


The hypocrisy about their desire for a quiet life....

I care as much about them as you do....I have an opinion on them like you do :shrug:....what’s the problem.

LukeB
16-02-2021, 07:40 PM
What hypocrisy??
Why do you care so much what Harry & Meghan are doing whether it's a photo shoot or an interview??.

People are finding it hard to understand what type of privacy Meghan and Harry wanted you know the same type of privacy every other celebrity wants.

joeysteele
16-02-2021, 07:43 PM
People are finding it hard to understand what type of privacy Meghan and Harry wanted you know the same type of privacy every other celebrity wants.

I know.
It's incredible it's like it's thought privacy should be as if they've gone to Mars or somewhere.
Never to be heard or seen again.
Unbelievable.

Ammi
16-02-2021, 08:19 PM
I know.
It's incredible it's like it's thought privacy should be as if they've gone to Mars or somewhere.
Never to be heard or seen again.
Unbelievable.

...I reckon that some media might have a long Mars reaching lens, Joey...

joeysteele
16-02-2021, 08:24 PM
...I reckon that some media might have a long Mars reaching lens, Joey...

Well yes, you're likely right there too Ammi.

Crimson Dynamo
16-02-2021, 08:31 PM
People are finding it hard to understand what type of privacy Meghan and Harry wanted you know the same type of privacy every other celebrity wants.

what "type" of privacy?:laugh:


what "type" of privacy involves a PR with an image to the PA to distribute to ALL newspapers?

what "type" of privacy is a 90 minute faux interview with the USA's biggest daytime host who is "new" personal friend with a racial axe to grind?

i mean you genuinely can't make this up


it is astonishing hypocrisy of the Highest level

grade AA

rusticgal
16-02-2021, 09:15 PM
People are finding it hard to understand what type of privacy Meghan and Harry wanted you know the same type of privacy every other celebrity wants.


Oh the privacy of the private life they spilled to Oprah...soon to be on National TV :laugh:

LukeB
16-02-2021, 09:25 PM
Oh the privacy of the private life they spilled to Oprah...soon to be on National TV :laugh:

Yup you still don’t understand what privacy people want after people have mentioned it so many time. Are they inviting us into their homes 24/7 all year? No they are doing a TV interview which is rare for them. Every single celebrity wants privacy and do way more publicity stuff than Meghan and Harry.

You also fail to understand this is their control rather than media twisting stuff. That’s what tv interviews are for.

Glenn.
16-02-2021, 09:37 PM
Yup you still don’t understand what privacy people want after people have mentioned it so many time. Are they inviting us into their homes 24/7 all year? No they are doing a TV interview which is rare for them. Every single celebrity wants privacy and do way more publicity stuff than Meghan and Harry.

You also fail to understand this is their control rather than media twisting stuff. That’s what tv interviews are for.

:clap1:

Tom4784
16-02-2021, 09:57 PM
Lets be honest here...Meghan loves the press...she courts the press...she simply doesnt like negative press....I mean who does :shrug: As I have said 100 times before anyone who puts themselves out in the public eye with podcasts etc etc etc...you will have people that like you and some that dont.

This is all what you want to be true, it's not facts, it's not logic, it's just fantasy.

It's been explained to you why people in the public eye can't easily fade away, especially someone like Meghan who the media knows will generate clicks with every article they write. They won't be allowed to, you either control the narrative or someone else does and to control the narrative, you have to engage in the press on your terms, which is what they and most celebs do.

Ignoring how things work to push a narrative isn't a good look. You can keep ignoring the reality of living in the public eye, but it will never make your narrative any less of a fabrication.

GoldHeart
16-02-2021, 10:15 PM
The hypocrisy about their desire for a quiet life....

I care as much about them as you do....I have an opinion on them like you do :shrug:....what’s the problem.

But they're still human beings and are still entitled to peace and quiet, why is it bad to do a photo shoot and a interview.

They didn't disappear from earth they just stood down from royal duties . And they will always be apart of the royal family whether people like it or not.

rusticgal
16-02-2021, 10:40 PM
But they're still human beings and are still entitled to peace and quiet, why is it bad to do a photo shoot and a interview.

They didn't disappear from earth they just stood down from royal duties . And they will always be apart of the royal family whether people like it or not.



You either want to have peace and quiet or you want to court publicity....you can’t have both. I fully understand the desire to have some parts of your life remain private...but when you put yourself out there constantly with interviews and podcasts and opinions then I’m afraid you have to expect that people will not always see you in the light that you want.
Who is really interested in them ramming their opinions/preachings and sob story down our throats?....Many people I believe are intrigued by the blatant self appreciation and ignorance.

Mitchell
16-02-2021, 10:44 PM
Meghan was already having her privacy invaded way too much, her already ****ty father, knows this yet sells stories on her, yet wonders why she wants nothing to do with him, when he is doing his best to help fuel the invasion of her privacy.

Can you imagine the uproar if she hadn’t announced her pregnancy? Cos there’s no flipping way it wouldn’t have got out that she was pregnant, the gammon would be telling us how selfish it is, and how they should’ve told us something so important, whatever Meghan and Harry do, it will never be good enough for some people, and that is the simple fact of it.

Elliot
16-02-2021, 10:45 PM
People are finding it hard to understand what type of privacy Meghan and Harry wanted you know the same type of privacy every other celebrity wants.

It’s what happens when you try to project someone as an antagonistic villain, things that would be normal if anyone else did them become malevolent Machiavellian schemes to distance Harry from his family and tear the royals apart. Occam’s razor. If you have to make so many assumptions and twist so many things for something to be true, it probably isn’t true.

Mitchell
16-02-2021, 10:55 PM
You either want to have peace and quiet or you want to court publicity....you can’t have both. I fully understand the desire to have some parts of your life remain private...but when you put yourself out there constantly with interviews and podcasts and opinions then I’m afraid you have to expect that people will not always see you in the light that you want.
Who is really interested in them ramming their opinions/preachings and sob story down our throats?....Many people I believe are intrigued by the blatant self appreciation and ignorance.

Constantly? From what I’ve seen (and feel free to correct me), since they left their royal duties, there’s been about 3 minutes of podcast audio, and now this interview, so about 93 minutes of content in over a year?

I would like to hear her side of the story actually, the bullying media has found a way to twist and manipulate the public into believing their narrative of Meghan, and it’s perfectly clear why they’ve been so keen on doing so, but they won’t be held to account, because keyboard warriors are too busy attacking her for her family life.

GoldHeart
16-02-2021, 11:01 PM
Chosing when to court publicity makes sense. Like, I would be happy for photoshoots (and the money from them) but would be quite unimpressed with a picture of me doing a crap to be all over the press :laugh:

Yeah the press will always be all over celebs, comes with the territory. But I still cannot really fault them for trying to have a bit of privacy..even moreso when you think that the press basically killed Harrys mother.

That said, I won't watch this I don't think. I cannot bloody stand Oprah..which might potentially be one of the most offensive posts on this site to some!

Not sure its a good move as when Michael Jackson did his interview with Oprah ,people still believed all the gossip about him ,it didn't matter what HE said I think it just depends on the person on whether you like them or not to start with .Personally ,I don't really care what they do, but have to admit i find it strange they want to do this.:wavey:

Im not a big Oprah fan especially with the whole MJ mess and her sleazy friendship with Weinstein and the gross Wade & Jim mockery :bored: .

But i don't have a problem with Meghan and Harry doing an interview to get their side of the story across.

rusticgal
17-02-2021, 12:15 AM
Constantly? From what I’ve seen (and feel free to correct me), since they left their royal duties, there’s been about 3 minutes of podcast audio, and now this interview, so about 93 minutes of content in over a year?

I would like to hear her side of the story actually, the bullying media has found a way to twist and manipulate the public into believing their narrative of Meghan, and it’s perfectly clear why they’ve been so keen on doing so, but they won’t be held to account, because keyboard warriors are too busy attacking her for her family life.


I do feel it’s constant...that’s my opinion and the way I feel. I will look forward to what they have to say. I have just defended my opinion on here because I don’t like what I have seen so far...but that’s just my opinion.
Maybe the interview may change my opinion on them...let’s wait and see....but I doubt it.

arista
17-02-2021, 02:08 AM
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thesheriff443
17-02-2021, 03:22 AM
Meghan has asked Oprah to have some paper and colouring pencils on set for Harry so he doesn’t get bored while she does the interview

Later on Harry the donkey can come on for a little bit and nod when prompted.

Ammi
17-02-2021, 07:00 AM
...I don’t think that it’s an either or thing with publicity and never has been for them and that’s kind of confining into a box and saying...you can’t step out of that box because you’re trying to minimise tabloid media negativity and the relentless extremity of it and the impact of it on your mental/emotional welfare....as others have said, that would be impossible for them anyway but it also would be them allowing themselves to continue to be controlled in their actions and more or less being bullied into hiding away ..I can’t think of many huge profile celebrities etc, who have shown and adopted a ‘hermit’ existence, I can think of a few but not many and incomes have to be made as well....but more that they’re seeking more control over their lives and decisions that being a working Royal doesn’t always give and living where they feel their horrendous tabloid bombardment less...and the reasons for stepping down and living overseas is fitting more with that...they’ve always said that they would be working toward being financially independent so that’s what they’re balancing as well, I feel...

jet
17-02-2021, 10:57 AM
Constantly? From what I’ve seen (and feel free to correct me), since they left their royal duties, there’s been about 3 minutes of podcast audio, and now this interview, so about 93 minutes of content in over a year?


Okay, here goes….Meghan and Harry's working year. :hee:
There have been many zoom lectures from the sofa in their mansion, preaching about subjects ranging from our carbon footprints, (while flying in private planes and driving gas guzzling suvs), to black lives matter; to trying to influence how people ought to vote in the presidential election; to how they are striving to save us from wicked social media. Jumping on bandwagons to benefit publicity wise from whatever the latest ‘thing’ is and not actually DOING anything.
They have zoom gatecrashed several meetings about various subjects which they hadn’t been invited to join with last minute ‘surprise visits, throwing organizers and participants off guard.

Meghan was guest editor for a copy of Vogue magazine which she got by hustling the editor, not by invitation.
They did a 10 minute ‘charity’ call in a food kitchen with a photographer on hand so they could post their wonderful effort on their website. They visited a fallen soldiers cemetery to lay a wreath because the Queen didn’t allow a wreath to be placed on the cenotaph in Harry’s honour, as he asked, because only those in the royal family who actually currently represent one of the forces do that.. On their visit, they brought along a fashion photographer to capture Meghan in her lovely new mega buck coat and stiletto’s tramping all over the graves. Again, they made sure it was posted on their website.

They gave the go - ahead to their friend Omid Scobie to invade their own privacy by writing their biography which was full of had - to - know intimate details including that Meghan peed in the woods.
Then we had the news of the Netflix and Spotify deals which they got via their Royal titles which should be used to serve their country, not themselves - and definitely not on merit.
They did a very long cringeworthy podcast featuring roped in celebs and made sure it got a good ranking by having their very private son Archie speaking on it for good measure.

Harry sued about something or other and won and was awarded £2,000, but had to pay £30,000 in costs. Meghan sued in a privacy case and won but which isn’t quite completed yet.
They are doing an interview with the awful Oprah Winfrey in which they will no doubt mention how their privacy is invaded while talking about their longed for private lives and potentially compromising the privacy of the royal family while they are at it.
So for most of the last year they have sat on their holes hustling for mega dollar deals, being self appointed life coach guru’s preaching to the peasants about how we should do as they say, not as they do.
They are often deliberately controversial, but the press/media/public are supposed to say only nice things about them and leave them alone.
Not gonna happen.
They have aggressive American PA’s who they pay through the nose for. That some can’t see Meghan's (in particular) narcissistic craving for attention and publicity is astounding.

rusticgal
17-02-2021, 12:09 PM
Okay, here goes….Meghan and Harry's working year. :hee:
There have been many zoom lectures from the sofa in their mansion, preaching about subjects ranging from our carbon footprints, (while flying in private planes and driving gas guzzling suvs), to black lives matter; to trying to influence how people ought to vote in the presidential election; to how they are striving to save us from wicked social media. Jumping on bandwagons to benefit publicity wise from whatever the latest ‘thing’ is and not actually DOING anything.
They have zoom gatecrashed several meetings about various subjects which they hadn’t been invited to join with last minute ‘surprise visits, throwing organizers and participants off guard.

Meghan was guest editor for a copy of Vogue magazine which she got by hustling the editor, not by invitation.
They did a 10 minute ‘charity’ call in a food kitchen with a photographer on hand so they could post their wonderful effort on their website. They visited a fallen soldiers cemetery to lay a wreath because the Queen didn’t allow a wreath to be placed on the cenotaph in Harry’s honour, as he asked, because only those in the royal family who actually currently represent one of the forces do that.. On their visit, they brought along a fashion photographer to capture Meghan in her lovely new mega buck coat and stiletto’s tramping all over the graves. Again, they made sure it was posted on their website.

They gave the go - ahead to their friend Omid Scobie to invade their own privacy by writing their biography which was full of had - to - know intimate details including that Meghan peed in the woods.
Then we had the news of the Netflix and Spotify deals which they got via their Royal titles which should be used to serve their country, not themselves - and definitely not on merit.
They did a very long cringeworthy podcast featuring roped in celebs and made sure it got a good ranking by having their very private son Archie speaking on it for good measure.

Harry sued about something or other and won and was awarded £2,000, but had to pay £30,000 in costs. Meghan sued in a privacy case and won but which isn’t quite completed yet.
They are doing an interview with the awful Oprah Winfrey in which they will no doubt mention how their privacy is invaded while talking about their longed for private lives and potentially compromising the privacy of the royal family while they are at it.
So for most of the last year they have sat on their holes hustling for mega dollar deals, being self appointed life coach guru’s preaching to the peasants about how we should do as they say, not as they do.
They are often deliberately controversial, but the press/media/public are supposed to say only nice things about them and leave them alone.
Not gonna happen.
They have aggressive American PA’s who they pay through the nose for. That some can’t see Meghan's (in particular) narcissistic craving for attention and publicity is astounding.


Jet...you have it in a nutshell. :wavey:

rusticgal
17-02-2021, 12:11 PM
Meghan has asked Oprah to have some paper and colouring pencils on set for Harry so he doesn’t get bored while she does the interview

Later on Harry the donkey can come on for a little bit and nod when prompted.


:joker:...:wavey:

rusticgal
17-02-2021, 12:13 PM
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I hope she isnt disappointed....

UserSince2005
17-02-2021, 12:19 PM
poor queenie, shes about to be dragged

Cherie
17-02-2021, 03:08 PM
did they wheel Philip into hosp for the sympathy vote :pipe:

AnnieK
17-02-2021, 03:11 PM
did they wheel Philip into hosp for the sympathy vote :pipe:

I'm sure some people will blame them for his ill health

Vicky.
17-02-2021, 03:24 PM
I'm sure some people will blame them for his ill health

God..I can actually see this happening..

Tom4784
17-02-2021, 03:26 PM
People have used Meghan's miscarriage to slate her so nothing would surprise me now.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, if only these people focused just half of this hatred on Prince Andrew, an actual peadophile, rather than rallying against a woman for existing.

The Slim Reaper
17-02-2021, 03:43 PM
Okay, here goes….Meghan and Harry's working year. :hee:
There have been many zoom lectures from the sofa in their mansion, preaching about subjects ranging from our carbon footprints, (while flying in private planes and driving gas guzzling suvs), to black lives matter; to trying to influence how people ought to vote in the presidential election; to how they are striving to save us from wicked social media. Jumping on bandwagons to benefit publicity wise from whatever the latest ‘thing’ is and not actually DOING anything.
They have zoom gatecrashed several meetings about various subjects which they hadn’t been invited to join with last minute ‘surprise visits, throwing organizers and participants off guard.

Meghan was guest editor for a copy of Vogue magazine which she got by hustling the editor, not by invitation.
They did a 10 minute ‘charity’ call in a food kitchen with a photographer on hand so they could post their wonderful effort on their website. They visited a fallen soldiers cemetery to lay a wreath because the Queen didn’t allow a wreath to be placed on the cenotaph in Harry’s honour, as he asked, because only those in the royal family who actually currently represent one of the forces do that.. On their visit, they brought along a fashion photographer to capture Meghan in her lovely new mega buck coat and stiletto’s tramping all over the graves. Again, they made sure it was posted on their website.

They gave the go - ahead to their friend Omid Scobie to invade their own privacy by writing their biography which was full of had - to - know intimate details including that Meghan peed in the woods.
Then we had the news of the Netflix and Spotify deals which they got via their Royal titles which should be used to serve their country, not themselves - and definitely not on merit.
They did a very long cringeworthy podcast featuring roped in celebs and made sure it got a good ranking by having their very private son Archie speaking on it for good measure.

Harry sued about something or other and won and was awarded £2,000, but had to pay £30,000 in costs. Meghan sued in a privacy case and won but which isn’t quite completed yet.
They are doing an interview with the awful Oprah Winfrey in which they will no doubt mention how their privacy is invaded while talking about their longed for private lives and potentially compromising the privacy of the royal family while they are at it.
So for most of the last year they have sat on their holes hustling for mega dollar deals, being self appointed life coach guru’s preaching to the peasants about how we should do as they say, not as they do.
They are often deliberately controversial, but the press/media/public are supposed to say only nice things about them and leave them alone.
Not gonna happen.
They have aggressive American PA’s who they pay through the nose for. That some can’t see Meghan's (in particular) narcissistic craving for attention and publicity is astounding.

Serious question, what could they do that would make you happy?

As an example, you criticise her for hustling for work. Isn't that what everyone is supposed to do, especially when she is from an acting background that is all about the hustle.

Same with other deals they have. They were criticised for living off the royal name and pound, but they're now being for criticised for funding themselves.

Public figures have PA's

How many that aren't interested in the royal family (like me) do you think tuned in to hear Archie talking (another of their crimes)?

Harry using legal options available to him is a problem when he's using his own money?

What is controversial about anything they've done, other than others assigning that to them?

Niamh.
17-02-2021, 03:56 PM
Back on topic people

LukeB
17-02-2021, 03:58 PM
Back on topic people

I think the unnecessary comment about Philip should be deleted too tbh nothing to do with this interview and he's just been taken into hospital :laugh:

Cherie
17-02-2021, 04:01 PM
I think the unnecessary comment about Philip should be deleted too tbh nothing to do with this interview and he's just been taken into hospital :laugh:


Maybe lighten up, it’s a comment about the Royals which is relevant to the thread, Liz on diversion if you will

LukeB
17-02-2021, 04:02 PM
Maybe lighten up, it’s a comment about the Royals which is relevant to the thread, Liz on diversion if you will

Nothing is funny or great seeing someone make a unnecessary comment about someone who has been taken into hospital and could very well die. As much as it does prove our point with the Meghan hate it's still awful and no need tbh

Philip going to hospital has nothing to do with this interview

jet
17-02-2021, 04:04 PM
God..I can actually see this happening..

Why wouldn't it? It has been reported that he has been apoplectic with rage on several occasions at their behaviour. At the 'leaving'summit last year they had to get him into a car and away before Harry arrived, he was that furious. Now the news they are doing an Oprah interview....maybe he couldn't care less any more, maybe he does, but its not that big of a stretch to think it could have contributed. :shrug:

You posted 'back on topic' while I was posting, I'll move it to the relevant thread if you want.

Niamh.
17-02-2021, 04:05 PM
Nothing is funny or great seeing someone make a unnecessary comment about someone who has been taken into hospital and could very well die. As much as it does prove our point with the Meghan hate it's still awful and no need tbh

Philip going to hospital has nothing to do with this interview

tbf Luke, on a Forum that has a Celebrity Death List competition I think Cheries joke is pretty mild.......

LukeB
17-02-2021, 04:07 PM
tbf Luke, on a Forum that has a Celebrity Death List competition I think Cheries joke is pretty mild.......

But it's still an unnessarry comment to make and it's irrelevant to this oprah interview topic.


First people think of when Philip has been taken into hospital is to make silly comments about Meghan :skull:

Niamh.
17-02-2021, 04:08 PM
But it's still an unnessarry comment to make and it's irrelevant to this oprah interview topic.

So lets not derail the thread anymore? Back on topic please

Crimson Dynamo
17-02-2021, 04:09 PM
But it's still an unnessarry comment to make and it's irrelevant to this oprah interview topic.

As has been said the news of this unnecessary interview and the media attention about what they will say may have caused him great stress and people will wonder.

I am sure the queen is feeling stressed too

Niamh.
17-02-2021, 04:10 PM
As has been said the news of this unnecessary interview and the media attention about what they will say may have caused him great stress and people will wonder.

I am sure the queen is feeling stressed too

More stressed or less stressed than after her middle sons interview and implications of being a sex offender?

The Slim Reaper
17-02-2021, 04:12 PM
Anyone else answer to their grandparents in their 30's?

Cherie
17-02-2021, 04:12 PM
But it's still an unnessarry comment to make and it's irrelevant to this oprah interview topic.


First people think of when Philip has been taken into hospital is to make silly comments about Meghan :skull:

You haven’t posted in his thread? The comment was about the Royals here in the UK, how could Meghan wheel him in lol

rusticgal
17-02-2021, 04:14 PM
tbf Luke, on a Forum that has a Celebrity Death List competition I think Cheries joke is pretty mild.......


:hehe:

Crimson Dynamo
17-02-2021, 04:14 PM
More stressed or less stressed than after her middle sons interview and implications of being a sex offender?

i guess it all does not help but he probably hates Andrew anyroad

jet
17-02-2021, 04:16 PM
Anyone else answer to their grandparents in their 30's?

Nothing to do with answering to them, it was the disrespect they showed the Queen at the time of their leaving, and the lies that Meghan has told about the family, among other things.

Niamh.
17-02-2021, 04:16 PM
i guess it all does not help but he probably hates Andrew anyroad

Phillip? Why do you think that? :laugh:

rusticgal
17-02-2021, 04:18 PM
i guess it all does not help but he probably hates Andrew anyroad


I think Andrew was the Queens favorite.....and I think Philip favoured Ann with her 'say it as it is' personna..

jet
17-02-2021, 04:19 PM
I think Andrew was the Queens favorite.....and I think Philip favoured Ann with her 'say it as it is' personna..

Yep! :wavey:

Niamh.
17-02-2021, 04:25 PM
I think Andrew was the Queens favorite.....and I think Philip favoured Ann with her 'say it as it is' personna..

Yep! :wavey:

Even now? :skull:

bots
17-02-2021, 04:28 PM
As has been said the news of this unnecessary interview and the media attention about what they will say may have caused him great stress and people will wonder.

I am sure the queen is feeling stressed too

oh come on, Phil has never given a crap and the queen is way past getting stressed about anything that the family get up to

LukeB
17-02-2021, 04:34 PM
Even now? :skull:

yikes

AnnieK
17-02-2021, 04:35 PM
Yep! :wavey:

Wasn't there actually speculation that Andrew was fathered by a lover rather than Phillip also?

jet
17-02-2021, 04:37 PM
Even now? :skull:

No idea, it was always said he was in the past.
He has insisted to her (and Philip) he is innocent of the sex allegations though, and it is said they believe him.

jet
17-02-2021, 04:39 PM
oh come on, Phil has never given a crap and the queen is way past getting stressed about anything that the family get up to

That's not true of Philip, far from it. The Queen is more laid back.

Cherie
17-02-2021, 04:39 PM
Wasn't there actually speculation that Andrew was fathered by a lover rather than Phillip also?

oh seriously, not Liz as well :laugh:

jet
17-02-2021, 04:40 PM
Wasn't there actually speculation that Andrew was fathered by a lover rather than Phillip also?

Never heard that one! :laugh:

Cherie
17-02-2021, 04:41 PM
Never heard that one! :laugh:

omg Annie, you have sent Jet to the Archives :D

jet
17-02-2021, 04:42 PM
omg Annie, you have sent Jet to the Archives :D

:laugh:

Cherie
17-02-2021, 04:43 PM
Even now? :skull:

that would be weird, Liz dealt with him, he is pretty much banished now, I don't even think he was present at the Wedding of his daughter that got married in May

Jet will confirm?

Glenn.
17-02-2021, 04:46 PM
Please do not tell me that Meghan has been blamed for putting an frail 99yr old in hospital now? Like seriously?

bots
17-02-2021, 04:47 PM
that would be weird, Liz dealt with him, he is pretty much banished now, I don't even think he was present at the Wedding of his daughter that got married in May

Jet will confirm?


he was on pizza duty i believe

Niamh.
17-02-2021, 04:48 PM
No idea, it was always said he was in the past.
He has insisted to her (and Philip) he is innocent of the sex allegations though, and it is said they believe him.

I mean there's literally photographic evidence that prove he's a liar not to mention that car crash interview :skull: I guess they have to pretend to believe him though otherwise they have to admit they don't give a **** what he's done to some random girls

jet
17-02-2021, 04:51 PM
that would be weird, Liz dealt with him, he is pretty much banished now, I don't even think he was present at the Wedding of his daughter that got married in May

Jet will confirm?

That's right, he wasn't. :hehe:

Glenn.
17-02-2021, 04:53 PM
As long as we can keep the peadophile out of sight, it didn’t happen then.

AnnieK
17-02-2021, 04:57 PM
omg Annie, you have sent Jet to the Archives :D

Lord Porchester I believe was the person of interest. He looks nothing like charles, edward or even anne either :laugh:

Crimson Dynamo
17-02-2021, 04:57 PM
He hasnt been convicted of any crime or did i miss that?

:think:

The Slim Reaper
17-02-2021, 04:59 PM
He hasnt been convicted of any crime or did i miss that?

:think:

Neither was Saville.

Vicky.
17-02-2021, 04:59 PM
Nothing to do with answering to them, it was the disrespect they showed the Queen at the time of their leaving, and the lies that Meghan has told about the family, among other things.

I might regret asking this...but can you give any examples of these lies? Have actually just googled and found nothing at all..except for that apparently they lied about archies birth time, and she lied about going to college.

jet
17-02-2021, 05:02 PM
I mean there's literally photographic evidence that prove he's a liar not to mention that car crash interview :skull: I guess they have to pretend to believe him though otherwise they have to admit they don't give a **** what he's done to some random girls

There is photographic evidence? What, where! :conf:
There was a photo of him with a young girl and he definitely was keeping company with a convicted sex offender and stayed at his house.
I don't know what to think of this one. All his romantic interests and girlfriends (and there were many!) before he married were of a proper age but as yet he hasn't submitted himself for questioning. So....
I wouldn't think his parents believing him/wanting to to believe him automatically means they don't give a **** though.

arista
17-02-2021, 05:04 PM
Back on topic people


Is this going to get Locked?

Cherie
17-02-2021, 05:07 PM
Is this going to get Locked?

What gave you that idea Arista :laugh:

Cherie
17-02-2021, 05:07 PM
Lord Porchester I believe was the person of interest. He looks nothing like charles, edward or even anne either :laugh:

Lord Porcherster! Jeeeeeettt?

Niamh.
17-02-2021, 05:08 PM
There is photographic evidence? What, where! :conf:
There was a photo of him with a young girl and he definitely was keeping company with a convicted sex offender and stayed at his house.
I don't know what to think of this one. All his romantic interests and girlfriends (and there were many!) before he married were of a proper age but as yet he hasn't submitted himself for questioning. So....
I wouldn't think his parents believing him/wanting to to believe him automatically means they don't give a **** though.

I said there was photographic evidence that proves he's a liar which that photograph does in 2 ways, the first he said he'd never been upstairs in that house but the photograph with him in it was taken upstairs and the 2nd is that he said he'd never met that particular girl but there he is standing next to her

Niamh.
17-02-2021, 05:09 PM
There is photographic evidence? What, where! :conf:
There was a photo of him with a young girl and he definitely was keeping company with a convicted sex offender and stayed at his house.
I don't know what to think of this one. All his romantic interests and girlfriends (and there were many!) before he married were of a proper age but as yet he hasn't submitted himself for questioning. So....
I wouldn't think his parents believing him/wanting to to believe him automatically means they don't give a **** though.

I don't think these young girls were "romantic" interests

Niamh.
17-02-2021, 05:10 PM
Lord Porcherster! Jeeeeeettt?

he does actually look like him though :o

Ammi
17-02-2021, 05:13 PM
Lord Porchester I believe was the person of interest. He looks nothing like charles, edward or even anne either :laugh:

...I had to Google that, Annie..:laugh:...it’s something that I hadn’t heard before...

https://www.royalfoibles.com/the-queens-favorite-bastard/

...this is Lady Colin Campbell, though...:laugh:..and her ‘stories’ are all about the dollars tbh...she really has no Royal family insight of significance are my thoughts...

Crimson Dynamo
17-02-2021, 05:13 PM
Neither was Saville.

he died before he could tho, andrew is alive

GoldHeart
17-02-2021, 05:15 PM
I'm sure some people will blame them for his ill health

Yeah magine having a sex offender in the family but still treating Meghan like she's the scum of the earth :umm2::facepalm:

SherzyK
17-02-2021, 05:18 PM
Neither was Saville.

https://imgur.com/fbFivPH.gif

rusticgal
17-02-2021, 05:18 PM
Even now? :skull:


Dunno about that..:laugh:

bots
17-02-2021, 05:19 PM
I might regret asking this...but can you give any examples of these lies? Have actually just googled and found nothing at all..except for that apparently they lied about archies birth time, and she lied about going to college.

She lied to Michael Ross about kissing her ex boyfriend :smug:

Niamh.
17-02-2021, 05:20 PM
Dunno about that..:laugh:

And what about poor Edward, he's like the invisible child, has he done anything interesting?

jet
17-02-2021, 05:20 PM
I might regret asking this...but can you give any examples of these lies? Have actually just googled and found nothing at all..except for that apparently they lied about archies birth time, and she lied about going to college.

Yes, she lied about how she wasn't welcomed, when the family went out of their way (google how Meghan was made to feel special from the start compared to Kate or any other bride because she was in a new country) she lied about having no real family and her relationship with her father so that she wouldn't have to bring Harry to meet him and let the Palace aids help him when he was being harrassed by paps) - Harry in the radio interview "We will be the family she never had".

She lied about wanting to be part of the royal family and carry out her duties like the rest of them when they had been planning their escape even before they married.
She lied about how they didn't look after her enough during her pregnancy when she refused visits from Kate and William and Camilla, that nobody cared enough to ask her if she was okay.
She lied that she couldn't spend Xmas at Sandringham with Harry's family because Archie was to young to fly from Canada, then they jetted off with Archie to LA. There is lots more I'll think of after I post this...:laugh:

AnnieK
17-02-2021, 05:22 PM
...I had to Google that, Annie..:laugh:...it’s something that I hadn’t heard before...

https://www.royalfoibles.com/the-queens-favorite-bastard/

...this is Lady Colin Campbell, though...:laugh:..and her ‘stories’ are all about the dollars tbh...she really has no Royal family insight of significance are my thoughts...

My mum told me the rumours years ago.....sadly I can't ask her what her sources were but I thought it was a well known thing (obviously not).

My mum was well read on the Royals although she was not a Royalist at all. She just enjoyed the history

rusticgal
17-02-2021, 05:23 PM
Lord Porchester I believe was the person of interest. He looks nothing like charles, edward or even anne either :laugh:



Porchy.....They shared a love of race horses and were quite close...at least that was how it was portrayed on 'The Crown'.

GoldHeart
17-02-2021, 05:24 PM
that would be weird, Liz dealt with him, he is pretty much banished now, I don't even think he was present at the Wedding of his daughter that got married in May

Jet will confirm?

Was it a slap on the wrist and a "you naughty boy" ? :notimpressed:

Vicky.
17-02-2021, 05:26 PM
Yes, she lied about how she wasn't welcomed, when the family went out of their way (google how Meghan was made to feel special from the start compared to Kate or any other bride because she was in a new country) she lied about having no real family and her relationship with her father so that she wouldn't have to bring Harry to meet him and let the Palace aids help him when he was being harrassed by paps) - Harry in the radio interview "We will be the family she never had".

She lied about wanting to be part of the royal family and carry out her duties like the rest of them when they had been planning their escape even before they married.
She lied about how they didn't look after her enough during her pregnancy when she refused visits from Kate and William and Camilla, that nobody cared enough to ask her if she was okay.
She lied that she couldn't spend Xmas at Sandringham with Harry's family because Archie was to young to fly from Canada, then they jetted off with Archie to LA. There is lots more I'll think of after I post this...:laugh:
I'm sure :D

Will have a look into this all later I think..as I said in one of these threads..never been that interested in monarchy stuff, but..this seems almost like a war! Thanks for the reply. Royal wiki :p

rusticgal
17-02-2021, 05:27 PM
And what about poor Edward, he's like the invisible child, has he done anything interesting?


He mugged himself off on Its a Knockout and was a failed Marine...but his wife Sophie seems lovely.

Ammi
17-02-2021, 05:29 PM
My mum told me the rumours years ago.....sadly I can't ask her what her sources were but I thought it was a well known thing (obviously not).

My mum was well read on the Royals although she was not a Royalist at all. She just enjoyed the history

...i guess that it’s also how rumours have the power of flight much more now with the internet as well, Annie...but yeah, she obviously paid attention..:laugh:...

rusticgal
17-02-2021, 05:30 PM
Ive got to google Porchy now to see if Andrew looks like him...:laugh:

The Slim Reaper
17-02-2021, 05:31 PM
he died before he could tho, andrew is alive

The only reason we found out about him more than likely, was because he'd died. He didn't die under investigation.

Glenn.
17-02-2021, 05:31 PM
Yes, she lied about how she wasn't welcomed, when the family went out of their way (google how Meghan was made to feel special from the start compared to Kate or any other bride because she was in a new country) she lied about having no real family and her relationship with her father so that she wouldn't have to bring Harry to meet him and let the Palace aids help him when he was being harrassed by paps) - Harry in the radio interview "We will be the family she never had".

She lied about wanting to be part of the royal family and carry out her duties like the rest of them when they had been planning their escape even before they married.
She lied about how they didn't look after her enough during her pregnancy when she refused visits from Kate and William and Camilla, that nobody cared enough to ask her if she was okay.
She lied that she couldn't spend Xmas at Sandringham with Harry's family because Archie was to young to fly from Canada, then they jetted off with Archie to LA. There is lots more I'll think of after I post this...:laugh:

Can you provide actual evidence of any of this?

jet
17-02-2021, 05:32 PM
I said there was photographic evidence that proves he's a liar which that photograph does in 2 ways, the first he said he'd never been upstairs in that house but the photograph with him in it was taken upstairs and the 2nd is that he said he'd never met that particular girl but there he is standing next to her

Oh right. I think he said he didn't recall meeting her? But really, he's a pompous ass and I'm not interested in him.

GoldHeart
17-02-2021, 05:34 PM
Can you provide actual evidence of any of this?

I'd like to know aswell but doubt we'll ever get a coherent answer :rolleyes:

jet
17-02-2021, 05:35 PM
I'm sure :D

Will have a look into this all later I think..as I said in one of these threads..never been that interested in monarchy stuff, but..this seems almost like a war! Thanks for the reply. Royal wiki :p

You are welcome.
The warring Windsors! :hehe:

Jordan.
17-02-2021, 05:35 PM
Can you provide actual evidence of any of this?

"a close friend said"

Glenn.
17-02-2021, 05:37 PM
I'd like to know aswell but doubt we'll ever get a coherent answer :rolleyes:

"a close friend said"

I know. Don’t even know why I bothered asking :joker:

jet
17-02-2021, 05:39 PM
I'd like to know aswell but doubt we'll ever get a coherent answer :rolleyes:

I've said this many times before but Google reliable Royal correspondents whose 'reveals' have stood the test of time. It takes time but its worth it for the drama! :hehe:

jet
17-02-2021, 05:43 PM
Can you provide actual evidence of any of this?

Do your own research? You could start by finding Harry's radio interview (Utube?) or reading their friend Omid Scobies biography of them.

Glenn.
17-02-2021, 05:45 PM
Well dont then....if you dont agree with it then say so and present your own reasons as to why you think its a load of rubbish...its a debate not a court of justice.

The majority of what jet posted as his ‘facts’ were nothing more than tabloid fodder. It’s difficult to present your own reasonings with tabloid rumours. If jet is so convinced everything he posted is correct then it shouldn’t be difficult to provide actual evidence of it instead of fobbing people off with ‘look for yourself’

joeysteele
17-02-2021, 05:46 PM
Well dont then....if you dont agree with it then say so and present your own reasons as to why you think its a load of rubbish...its a debate not a court of justice.

EXCEPT others aren't saying they KNOW what wrong Meghan Markle has done, because I'd say there's no wrong to find anyway in my view.

So it's down to those who claim to know and who are publicly without concrete facts, saying so too for sure she has done and said great wrong.
Then it's only for them to prove their claims.

Not for those, who are NOT in FACT accusing her of anything at all.

Crimson Dynamo
17-02-2021, 05:49 PM
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jet
17-02-2021, 06:01 PM
EXCEPT others aren't saying they KNOW what wrong Meghan Markle has done, because I'd say there's no wrong to find anyway in my view.

So it's down to those who claim to know and who are publicly without concrete facts, saying so too for sure she has done and said great wrong.
Then it's only for them to prove their claims.

Not for those, who are NOT in FACT accusing her of anything at all.

Bull****, that's not how debate works.

I'm telling of what I have seen, heard, read, and researched from long time reliable royal commentators and formed my own opinions. I don't have to prove anything. Anyone is welcome to do their own research and rebut what I post if they don't agree.
Those that like/admire her could do their research for balance and post their findings about her, but they don't.

Nicky91
17-02-2021, 06:05 PM
Bull****, that's not how debate works.

I'm telling of what I have seen, heard, read, and researched from long time reliable royal commentators. I don't have to prove anything. Anyone is welcome to do their own research and rebut what I post if they don't agree.
Those that like/admire her could do their research for balance and post their findings about her, but they don't.

who are royal commentators in UK?


over here we got a few, more notably Marc van der Linden whom is a true royalty expert, mostly him when talking about royal news all across the world

rusticgal
17-02-2021, 06:13 PM
EXCEPT others aren't saying they KNOW what wrong Meghan Markle has done, because I'd say there's no wrong to find anyway in my view.

So it's down to those who claim to know and who are publicly without concrete facts, saying so too for sure she has done and said great wrong.
Then it's only for them to prove their claims.

Not for those, who are NOT in FACT accusing her of anything at all.


He doesn’t have to prove anything....they are his facts and if people don’t want to believe it then it’s up to them...goading and ridiculing is all they can do in response. We were all having a decent chat on here until certain people join the thread...

jet
17-02-2021, 06:13 PM
who are royal commentators in UK?


over here we got a few, more notably Marc van der Linden whom is a true royalty expert, mostly him when talking about royal news all across the world

Yes, royal experts. There are a lot Nicky, I've posted their names many times, not doing it all again.

Cherie
17-02-2021, 06:17 PM
He doesn’t have to prove anything....they are his facts and if people don’t want to believe it then it’s up to them...goading and ridiculing is all they can do in response. We were all having a decent chat on here until certain people join the thread...

:clap1:

Glenn.
17-02-2021, 06:18 PM
He doesn’t have to prove anything....they are his facts and if people don’t want to believe it then it’s up to them...goading and ridiculing is all they can do in response. We were all having a decent chat on here until certain people join the thread...

What you say is correct if he were talking about facts though. He isn’t.

jet
17-02-2021, 06:26 PM
So that’s a firm no on providing any evidence to back why you unnecessarily hate her so much?

I don't have to provide anything but my own findings and views. Get a grip. :joker:

GoldHeart
17-02-2021, 06:31 PM
I don't have to provide anything but my own findings and views. Get a grip. :joker:

But you claim to have evidence :hee:

Glenn.
17-02-2021, 06:31 PM
When your findings come from the Daily Mail you can’t expect other people to fall for them as easily as you do.

Crimson Dynamo
17-02-2021, 06:32 PM
I mean the FACT that they bleated on about privacy and the FACT they are doing a primtime expose access all areas 90 minute faux interview

The fact they bleated on about British tabloids taking them to court and then the FACT they released details of a pregnancy with a cloying picture to the Press Assocation so that all tabloids could run it and they did

these FACTS seem not to be counted

:joker:

Crimson Dynamo
17-02-2021, 06:34 PM
When your findings come from the Daily Mail you can’t expect other people to fall for them as easily as you do.

the happy couple used that publication recently to tell THE WORLD about their happy news

so they seem happy about its ability to report news?

GoldHeart
17-02-2021, 06:42 PM
I mean the FACT that they bleated on about privacy and the FACT they are doing a primtime expose access all areas 90 minute faux interview

The fact they bleated on about British tabloids taking them to court and then the FACT they released details of a pregnancy with a cloying picture to the Press Assocation so that all tabloids could run it and they did

these FACTS seem not to be counted

:joker:

We've already been through this, doing an interview to clear things up and get your side of the story across is not the same as doing a Kardashian show where camera's have access to your home and life 24/7 like a endless reality show.

I don't understand why that's so difficult to grasp , they can't disappear from the face of the earth therefore they are taking back a bit of control for the sake of their mental health and their son especially now with another baby on the way . But no matter what Meghan does tabloids will always write BS about her to fit their narrow minded pathetic agenda.