Sarah Everard, 33, Clapham, Murdered by Armed Diplomatic Police Officer

[arista]

[The family of a woman who has been
missing since Wednesday say they
long to see her again and have urged
anyone with information to contact police.
Sarah Everard, 33, was last seen at a
friend's house in Leathwaite Road
in Clapham, London,
at about 21:00 GMT when she left
through the back gate.

She is thought to have walked across
Clapham Common,
and was due to arrive
home in Brixton 50 minutes later.

Her family said not being in contact
was "totally out of character" for her.
"With every day that goes by we are getting
more worried about Sarah," they said.
"She is always in regular contact with
us and with her friends and it is totally
out of character for her to disappear like this.
"We long to see her and want nothing more
than for her to be found safe and well.
"We are desperate for news and if anyone
knows anything about what has happened
to her, we would urge you to please come
forward and speak to the police.
"No piece of information is too insignificant."]

https://news.sky.com/story/sarah-everard-police-increasingly-concerned-for-welfare-of-missing-brixton-woman-12237651


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-56307038


Another lady missing
I hope she is found safe.


https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/1541B/production/_117476078_mediaitem117476077.jpg
The Last Image of Sarah

[hijaxers]

That does not sound good at all ! Don't think this is gonna end well at all sadly.

[UserSince2005]

She’s the colleague of my neighbour they are all looking for her

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/03/07/17/40170024-9335333-image-a-4_1615137028581.jpg

They have Expanded the Search.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/03/07/12/40164352-9335333-image-a-45_1615118731321.jpg


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9335333/Missing-Sarah-Everards-family-tell-desperation-police-search-continues-four-days-on.html

[UserSince2005]

She had been at a friends house and was walking back to her house in Brixton. She going to be fined if she is found?

[Cherie]

This won’t end well I fear

[UserSince2005]

This won’t end well I fear

Positive thoughts please, the government needs her £10k fine.

[caprimint]

This won’t end well I fear
Same :(

Apparently within the last month or so there have been 4 instances of sexual assault around those roads that she disappeared...

[Cherie]

Same :(

Apparently within the last month or so there have been 4 instances of sexual assault around those roads that she disappeared...

Oh really, that is terrible

[bots]

with everything being quieter at the moment, it must be easier to spot unusual events on cctv. The down side of course is that less people would be around that could witness something odd going on

[Ammi]

...to have her go missing would just be the most awful dread, anyway...but then when a murder team becomes involved...just beyond anything most of us could ever imagine...:sad:..

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/03/08/14/40202028-9338091-Police_search_near_Poynders_Road_Clapham_where_a_m issing_poster_-a-52_1615213042709.jpg
[Her uncle says her phone has stopped working]

[The force released new information about the
route she took home after leaving a friend's home
via a back gate in Clapham at about 9pm.

Officers have now revealed Sarah was spotted
on CCTV at approximately 9.30pm on Wednesday.

She was walking alone on
the A205 Poynders Road,
from the junction with Cavendish Road,
in the direction of Tulse Hill.]



So not on the Common
she got over to the next road.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9338091/If-human-let-Missing-Sarah-Everards-uncle-makes-desperate-plea.html

[caprimint]

They found a white hat on Clapham Common similar to hers in a bush but apparently it's not related :conf2:

There were 40 violence and sexual offences on (or nearby) the roads in that area in January:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ev_zF1yXIAM7TlP?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ev_zF6UXcAANtbZ?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ev_zF6xWYAIVLYr?format=jpg&name=large

[arista]

They found a white hat on Clapham Common similar to hers in a bush but apparently it's not related :conf2:

There were 40 violence and sexual offences on (or nearby) the roads in that area in January:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ev_zF1yXIAM7TlP?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ev_zF6UXcAANtbZ?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ev_zF6xWYAIVLYr?format=jpg&name=large



Yes a White Hat like hers
but not hers.

Yes not a Good Area
so many sex offenders



Police said today
they have an Open mind.

[Ammi]

...so the hat found wasn’t Sarah’s, then...?...

[arista]

...so the hat found wasn’t Sarah’s, then...?...


No it was like it.

And in any case the latest CCTV image was her over the road
from that common. (after she crossed it)

[UserSince2005]

They found a white hat on Clapham Common similar to hers in a bush but apparently it's not related :conf2:

There were 40 violence and sexual offences on (or nearby) the roads in that area in January:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ev_zF1yXIAM7TlP?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ev_zF6UXcAANtbZ?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ev_zF6xWYAIVLYr?format=jpg&name=large

And we all know why, this is why I stay in zone 1

[caprimint]

...so the hat found wasn’t Sarah’s, then...?...
Nope

No it was like it.

And in any case the latest CCTV image was her over the road
from that common. (after she crossed it)
Are you sure that was the latest CCTV image?? I thought it was taken from the shop (Sainsburys?) and the one from Poynders Road wasn't released... but idk I'm not entirely sure about that

And we all know why, this is why I stay in zone 1
I don't really think it's any better tbh. Depending on the area obviously. Kings Cross and Paddington are pretty dodgy

[Cherie]

They found a white hat on Clapham Common similar to hers in a bush but apparently it's not related :conf2:

There were 40 violence and sexual offences on (or nearby) the roads in that area in January:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ev_zF1yXIAM7TlP?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ev_zF6UXcAANtbZ?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ev_zF6xWYAIVLYr?format=jpg&name=large

That can’t be a normal number of assaults in a month, and yet there was nada about it in the press

Much like in Hull when it was not publicised there was a sexual predator operating knowledge of which which might have saved Libbys life

[arista]

"I'm not entirely sure about that"

Look BBC1 London news showed a line that she walked
it went across the Common
ended on the Road. (the last new image)

[arista]

The Local MP
said its not Lit up enough at night


ITV1HD London news.

[arista]

[Police investigating the disappearance
of Sarah Everard have turned their
focus to a block of flats near where
she was last seen.
It comes as two new photographs
of the 33-year-old were released by police
following her disappearance last Wednesday.
One of the new images released shows
Ms Everard wearing the same coat as
on the night she went missing.]

https://news.sky.com/story/sarah-everard-police-release-two-new-photos-of-missing-33-year-old-12241054

[caprimint]

A police officer has been arrested in connection with her disappearance (and a woman at the same address for assisting him)

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/sarah-everard-met-officer-arrested-b1814906.html

What the ****

[arista]

A Copper
it just gets worse

[arista]

[Police officer arrested over Sarah Everard
disappearance: Detectives hunting
marketing executive, 33, who vanished last week
in south London quiz fellow policeman held
in Kent in 'serious' and 'disturbing' development
Sarah Everard vanished after leaving a friend's
house in south London last week
Met Police officer was last night arrested
in connection with her disappearance
Woman also detained in Kent on Tuesday
on suspicion of assisting an offender]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9344621/Serving-Met-police-officer-arrested-disappearance-Sarah-Everard-Clapham.html

[Ammi]

...that’s very disturbing, a police officer arrested...

[Cherie]

A police officer has been arrested in connection with her disappearance (and a woman at the same address for assisting him)

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/sarah-everard-met-officer-arrested-b1814906.html

What the ****

Maybe this is why 40 sexual assaults in a short period got zero coverage

[UserSince2005]

Oh **** this is messed up. I wonder what happened. Maybe he was arresting her for breaking the rules and she struggling and now he’s trying to cover it up.

[Cherie]

Oh **** this is messed up. I wonder what happened. Maybe he was arresting her for breaking the rules and she struggling and now he’s trying to cover it up.

It's not against the rules to be walking outside on your own :shrug:

[UserSince2005]

It's not against the rules to be walking outside on your own :shrug:

She might have admitted what she had been up to that evening when he stopped her

[Niamh.]

Maybe this is why 40 sexual assaults in a short period got zero coverageIt's only women after all...

[arista]

...that’s very disturbing, a police officer arrested...


Yes The Police are going to go live
in a min.

They also may have a location for the body? (Ashford Zone)


[Arrested at an address in Kent and is being held at a London police station.]


SkyNewsHD Live

[joeysteele]

Really desperately sad news.

[arista]

Live Assit Comm.
Scotland Yard


SkyNewsHD

The officer was not on duty.



Its like Line Of Duty.


Very Brief.

[Ammi]

Yes The Police are going to go live
in a min.

They also have a location for the body?


SkyNewsHD Live

...and another female arrested for assisting this person...so they pretty much know for sure that she’s dead, then...?...poor Sarah...and her family right now, really no words... :sad:...

[arista]

An Old paint ball centre
no longer used, is the location in Ashford, Kent.
Police Dogs are searching for the body.


Martin Brunt is there
her said a Large Police Communications Van
has arrived.



He was just Live on SkyNewsHD

[Cherie]

An Old paint ball centre
no longer used, is the location in Ashford, Kent.
Police Dogs are searching for the body.


Martin Brunt is there
her said a Large Police Communications Van
has arrived.



He was just Live on SkyNewsHD

omg the poor family, just shows how quickly life can turn, maybe 10 minute earlier or later leaving her friend and she might be alive

[arista]

omg the poor family, just shows how quickly life can turn, maybe 10 minute earlier or later leaving her friend and she might be alive



Yes this Police Officer
may have raped her
then Killed her, I fear.

[UserSince2005]

Yes this Police Officer
may have raped her
then Killed her, I fear.

Don't jump to conclusions please.

It might have just been an arrest gone wrong.

Maybe he tried to cover it up after all the drama caused by the George Floyd arrest.

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/12A49/production/_117516367_mediaitem117516366.jpg
Woodland near Ashford, being searched by police

[rusticgal]

Don't jump to conclusions please.

It might have just been an arrest gone wrong.

Maybe he tried to cover it up after all the drama caused by the George Floyd arrest.


He was OFF duty though...

[Cherie]

She might have admitted what she had been up to that evening when he stopped her

It's not an arrestable offence, it's a fine at most

[UserSince2005]

He was OFF duty though...

On duty or off duty, he still has a duty to arrest anyone so blatantly flouting the lockdown rules

[Ammi]

...I don’t know if you’ve posted already, Arista...he’s been named as Wayne Couzens...a 48yr old married father of two children...

[UserSince2005]

It's not an arrestable offence, it's a fine at most

hmmm ok, im not sure. it should be an arrestable offence when the rest of us are working so hard to stop the spread

maybe seen reacted badly to his questioning.

[Niamh.]

On duty or off duty, he still has a duty to arrest anyone so blatantly flouting the lockdown rules

So you've invented this whole narrative to make it a murdered woman's fault? Talk about taking victim blaming to whole new level

[UserSince2005]

So you've invented this whole narrative to make it a murdered woman's fault? Talk about taking victim blaming to whole new level

Do we know what has happened yet?
im just hypothesizing.
Its strange that a police man would "murder" or "rape" someone random like some people here are trying to insinuate.

[Niamh.]

Do we know what has happened yet?
im just hypothesizing.
Its strange that a police man would "murder" or "rape" someone random like some people here are trying to insinuate.

Rapists/murderers can be anyone in any job....

[bots]

my experience is that there are just as many criminals in the police force as are in the general public, so it seems logical to me that they have their fair share of murderers

[UserSince2005]

Rapists/murderers can be anyone in any job....

We will have to wait and see.
The facts known right now are that he is a police officer and she was breaking the law.
There is a connection between those two points from a high level perspective.
This is all we know.
As more information comes out then we can start assuming its rape/murder as some people here have already jumped to.

[Niamh.]

We will have to wait and see.
The facts known right now are that he is a police officer and she was breaking the law.
There is a connection between those two points from a high level perspective.
This is all we know.
As more information comes out then we can start assuming its rape/murder as some people here have already jumped to.

We also know that if your theory is correct then said Police officer also broke the law by covering up a dead body, doesn't sound like a very good Police man

Also, if he was off duty how could she be sure he was really a Police man? If a strange man approached me aggressively at night I would be resistant as well, clearly we can see how it could possibly end here....

[arista]

...I don’t know if you’ve posted already, Arista...he’s been named as Wayne Couzens...a 48yr old married father of two children...


No not yet
I assume Front Page tomorrow

[UserSince2005]

We also know that if your theory is correct then said Police officer also broke the law by covering up a dead body, doesn't sound like a very good Police man

Also, if he was off duty how could she be sure he was really a Police man? If a strange man approached me aggressively at night I would be resistant as well, clearly we can see how it could possibly end here....

Yes hes done a bad bad thing.
Who knows where he head was at.
We will find out in due course.

[Niamh.]

Yes hes done a bad bad thing, but who knows where he head was at. We will find out in due course.

Poor guy..........

[arista]

https://e3.365dm.com/21/03/768x432/skynews-sarah-everard-missing_5299571.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20210310110750
[Police activity outside a house in Freemens Way in Deal, Kent]

[arista]

1369607729090793473


Diplomatic Protection Officer was arrested last night

[arista]

It just gets worse
above a normal officer


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14294370/sarah-everard-police-search-home-wayne-couzens-2/?utm_campaign=sunmainfacebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1615374586

[arista]

1369632908751814658

[rusticgal]

We will have to wait and see.
The facts known right now are that he is a police officer and she was breaking the law.
There is a connection between those two points from a high level perspective.
This is all we know.
As more information comes out then we can start assuming its rape/murder as some people here have already jumped to.


How do we know she was breaking the law?...have I missed something?

[arista]

How do we know she was breaking the law?...have I missed something?


He is an Armed Westminster Diplomatic Police Officer
Not on Duty at the time she went missing.



He is the Worse Kind
as his car has his Gun in it.

[UserSince2005]

How do we know she was breaking the law?...have I missed something?

The media is making a big deal about her walking back from visiting friends at a house.

A clear breach of the lockdown laws.

And the way they keep making a point of mentioning it on all news reports makes me think that they could think it is relevant to the case.

[Niamh.]

Breaking Lock Down Rules punishable by death now? 1984 here we are.........

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/03/10/11/40291040-9344621-image-a-145_1615374136672.jpg
[A black SEAT Exeo was lifted off the drive way
and forensics officers entered the
house where the arrests were]

[arista]

1369648499940286464

[Smithy]

Breaking Lock Down Rules punishable by death now? 1984 here we are.........

If she’s a single person household then she was legally allowed a support bubble anyway :think:

[Niamh.]

If she’s a single person household then she was legally allowed a support bubble anyway :think:

Yeah I was thinking that but what is even the point in arguing about it anyway? Whether or not she was breaking the rules is entirely irrelevant to her being murdered by someone

[arista]

Suspicion Of Her Murder

Confirmed Charge, now


[Now
Arrested on suspicion of murder and kidnap
over the disappearance of Sarah Everard.]


https://news.sky.com/story/sarah-everard-disappearance-man-arrested-on-suspicion-of-murder-12241892

[UserSince2005]

Nasty man, she didnt deserve it.

[arista]

Forensic Police Vans
are now at the Ashford green area


does not look good

[Cherie]

He has also been charged with indecent exposure

[arista]

He has also been charged with indecent exposure


Yes amazing he stayed in his Gun Holding Police Job.

[arista]

Beckie posted on that Twitter post
Wayne Couzens arrested.
Police still haven't said what for. I don't understand the silence.

I do he is an Armed Police Diplomatic Officer
and is Tough, saying to every question "No Comment"


Now due to Evidence
they have Charged the Evil Copper

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/03/10/15/40300060-0-image-m-24_1615389406609.jpg

[arista]

Human Remains found in the woodland.


Evil Gun Copper


Live on Both news channels.

[UserSince2005]

How could a police man be so stupid to think he could get away with it?

[joeysteele]

Awful listening to this.
Absolutely devastating.

[arista]

Human Remains found in the woodland.


Both news channels


https://news.sky.com/story/police-searching-for-missing-sarah-everard-discover-human-remains-in-woodland-in-kent-12241833

[arista]

How could a police man be so stupid to think he could get away with it?


Could be because he has Guns

[arista]

I hope a criminal in Prison
Kills this Evil Copper

[Josy]

So sad for this woman and her family

[joeysteele]

I hope a criminal in Prison
Kills this Evil Copper

Well, he'll be detested by the other inmates for sure.
Firstly killing a Woman and for being a Police officer.
The police are hated in prisons.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwJufDBVIAAj0O5?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwJufDAVIAAUFe_?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwJufDYVgAEIb6s?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwJv3YVUYAAtTo3?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwJv3ZYUYAAVG2O?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwJv3ZDVcAEJ6KZ?format=jpg&name=small

[caprimint]

Idk if this article has been posted yet: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14302109/sarah-everard-wayne-couzens-warrant-card/

This whole situation is so sad :sad:

He surely has to have some sort of previous history of doing stuff like this, maybe more minor (without the killing part) but there's no way a 48 yr old man just hires a car and goes onto a busy London road to kill a random girl imo

[arista]

Idk if this article has been posted yet: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14302109/sarah-everard-wayne-couzens-warrant-card/

This whole situation is so sad :sad:

He surely has to have some sort of previous history of doing stuff like this, maybe more minor (without the killing part) but there's no way a 48 yr old man just hires a car and goes onto a busy London road to kill a random girl imo



Yes the Police
must have had a File
on this High Ranking Armed Officer.


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/03/10/16/40303812-9346175-image-a-159_1615395507892.jpg

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/03/10/22/40314950-9346175-image-a-70_1615415712773.jpg

[arista]

GMBHD itv
showed some Front Pages
with the Police Officer (Wayne Couzens)
Blacked out.

[Ammi]

...as a police officer, that he may have persuaded Sarah to get into his car as well ...completely trusting him...this was so premeditated, surely...and what of his past...how else has the trust placed in him been abused...it’s just horrific, the mental chaos of the circumstances for her family/loved ones atm, while grieving her loss as well...just every aspect to it, an unimaginable nightmare, poor lady/poor family...and his wife covering up for him...?...’evil’ I think, is the word...

[Ammi]

...it’s so incredibly chilling, for her to be in that place at that time...

[arista]

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[AnnieK]

The poor family. It's terrible to think that someone has done this to their daughter but to then hear that it is someone who she should have been their to protect her, not harm her and someone she would have trusted is unfathomable.

[bots]

it will be almost certain that this isn't the guys first offence, how extensive that past history is remains to be seen, but i suspect this is going to be grim

[Ammi]

...I wonder if anything was suspected of him before, though...if he’s someone who has aroused suspicion but nothing beyond that to be able to pursue further...

[Ammi]

...I mean he’s a monster...

[joeysteele]

...I mean he’s a monster...

A good word Ammi.
This is sickening..

[AnnieK]

it will be almost certain that this isn't the guys first offence, how extensive that past history is remains to be seen, but i suspect this is going to be grim

Considering the number of sex attacks in that area, I fear you are right.

[Cherie]

1369620690870108174

That is appalling, why have they published a picture of his Mum and step Dad :umm2:

[Vanessa]

Its just not safe at night anymore.
I'm terrified anytime I'm out after dark :sad:

[arista]

That is appalling, why have they published a picture of his step Mum and Dad :umm2:


Yes but its on Twitter
put the Coppers name in
you find people that knew him.

[Cherie]

Yes but its on Twitter
put the Coppers name in
you find people that knew him.

They have a right to privacy, how does GDPR work in this instance?

[UserSince2005]

They have a right to privacy, how does GDPR work in this instance?

GDPR is an EU regulation. We dont obey that ****e now.

[bots]

GDPR is an EU regulation. We dont obey that ****e now.

yes we do actually ... stop spreading misinformation

[arista]

They have a right to privacy, how does GDPR work in this instance?


I think the Tweet was removed
https://twitter.com/search?q=Wayne%20Couzens.&src=recent_search_click

Under his name
its no longer there.
Some Tweeting say they know him.

This is why Twitter can be wild

[arista]

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[Toy Soldier]

They have a right to privacy, how does GDPR work in this instance?GDPR regulates companies, businesses and organisations not individuals, so it's complicated on Social Media. Most likely scenario is that things like this fall under traditional defamation rules, not GDPR.

[Niamh.]

1369714104781389826

Yeah seen that one before, it's so true

[UserSince2005]

I'm certain more men die from random attacks on the street than women.

Don't scare yourselves girls.

[Niamh.]

I'm certain more men die from random attacks on the street than women.

Don't scare yourselves girls.

It's more specifically fear of sexual assault or harassment which is far more likely to happen to women

[arista]

BBC1 London news
reports extra Police are now in that area
she was taken from.

Today on Live TV debates and Live Radio debates
Women were getting angry
at anyone saying do not go out in the dark.

[Vanessa]

It's so dangerous to go out at night now for everyone, especially women who are alone.

[arista]

it's so dangerous to go out at night now for everyone, especially women who are alone.


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[arista]

One from Today

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[caprimint]

Not to defer away from Sarah, but men are just as likely to be at risk (and are probably just as scared), whether it be daytime or nighttime. The amount of knife crime attacks (which are most often male victims) is terrifying.

Apparently the place where they searched for (and found) human remains, is where Wayne and his family used to go for walks... how creepy :umm2:

[arista]

Not to defer away from Sarah, but men are just as likely to be at risk (and are probably just as scared), whether it be daytime or nighttime. The amount of knife crime attacks (which are most often male victims) is terrifying.

Apparently the place where they searched for (and found) human remains, is where Wayne and his family used to go for walks... how creepy :umm2:


Yes it is.

[arista]

New Update
That Arrested Officer was taken to a Hospital
for a Head Injury.

He is right back in the Police Station now

Ch5HDnews Live

[bots]

New Update
That Arrested Officer was taken to a Hospital
for a Head Injury.

He is right back in the Police Station now

Ch5HDnews Live

he must have accidentally hit his head on the door

[Cherie]

He lives in Kent so he must have been driving past at the time Sarah exited the common, just a chance encounter :sad:

[UserSince2005]

Sarah looked like a younger less fat version of his wife

[bots]

He lives in Kent so he must have been driving past at the time Sarah exited the common, just a chance encounter :sad:

murderers don't tend to strike on their own doorstep. I think the guy is a serial offender if not a serial murderer

[Toy Soldier]

murderers don't tend to strike on their own doorstep. I think the guy is a serial offender if not a serial murderer

Given some of the grim details, I think there is a distinct possibility this will be linked to other crimes.

[arista]

He must have accidentally hit his head on the door


Something like that
I bet he is still saying "No Comment"


The Evil Officer
[has since been discharged and returned to a police station, the Metropolitan Police said.]

https://news.sky.com/story/missing-sarah-everard-suspect-treated-in-hospital-for-head-injury-sustained-in-custody-12243028

[arista]

[Labour's shadow domestic
violence minister, Jess Phillips,
has said society has "just accepted"
dead women as "one of those things".

She read out the names of 118 women
and girls killed in the UK this year,
where a man has been charged
or convicted as the primary perpetrator,
in an International Women's Day debate.
Ms Phillips said there was currently no government
research into the data.]

Sarah's name was read out last.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56365827

[UserSince2005]

it really is strange how alike the wife and the victim are.

[Beso]

[Labour's shadow domestic
violence minister, Jess Phillips,
has said society has "just accepted"
dead women as "one of those things".

She read out the names of 118 women
and girls killed in the UK this year,
where a man has been charged
or convicted as the primary perpetrator,
in an International Women's Day debate.
Ms Phillips said there was currently no government
research into the data.]

Sarah's name was read out last.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56365827



I just saw that in YouTube.

[hijaxers]

it really is strange how alike the wife and the victim are.

Yeah well if the wife is at anyway involved then~ good luck in prison ya bitch

[Cherie]

He exposed himself in a fast food restaurant three days previously :umm2:

[caprimint]

He lives in Kent so he must have been driving past at the time Sarah exited the common, just a chance encounter :sad:
He was working in Nine Elms that day but his base was in Westminster, so providing he would have travelled back there to return his police stuff before leaving, Clapham was actually a detour for him back to Kent from Westminster, so maybe he lurked that area a lot or something :umm2:

[rusticgal]

I’m a bit confused...they arrested him for her murder but have yet to confirm that the remains found are hers (although it seems they more than likely are). They must have incriminating evidence but have yet to charge him...am I missing something?

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/03/12/07/article-9354109-40374030-797_964x541.jpg

Center photo : pictured left and right Evil Killer with his wife Elena.


[Wayne Couzens, 48, was reported to police after allegedly
have exposing himself at a
south London restaurant on February 28.]

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/03/12/07/40374518-0-image-a-13_1615534000730.jpg


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9354109/Sarah-Everard-murder-suspect-flashed-London-takeaway-THREE-days-disappearance.html

[Zizu]

This looks to be a very involved case ...

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/uk-news/met-police-face-probe-over-20097720.amp


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[Zizu]

I’m a bit confused...they arrested him for her murder but have yet to confirm that the remains found are hers (although it seems they more than likely are). They must have incriminating evidence but have yet to charge him...am I missing something?



Yes ... it looks as though this will be a very complicated/complex investigation


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[Vanessa]

I used to live in Clapham South.

[Cherie]

I'm getting the impression her body is not in one piece?

Poor girl, at least he will suffer in prison

[bots]

i think they will have tried to destroy the evidence and they may be dealing with remains that don't resemble a human body. That's what i took from the met chief saying that they thought it was human remains

[Vanessa]

Looks like she was in the wrong place at the wrong time :bawling:

[Niamh.]

i think they will have tried to destroy the evidence and they may be dealing with remains that don't resemble a human body. That's what i took from the met chief saying that they thought it was human remains

Poor woman

[Oliver_W]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwO4atQUYAgIxoQ?format=jpg&name=small

The Guardian: Here are sixteen women who were the victims of murder

Eddie Izzard: Teeheehee, i love being a girl!


Well played, Grauniad :rolleyes:

[arista]

Police Live Now
it is her Body Confirmed

https://news.sky.com/story/human-remains-found-in-kent-wood-are-sarah-everards-police-confirm-12242538


Very Brief.

[arista]

I'm getting the impression her body is not in one piece?

Poor girl, at least he will suffer in prison


I would like him killed by another prisoner

[Kate!]

what a terrible outcome, though I expected it. Gutted. Poor Sarah.

RIP.

[bots]

sad outcome, they better throw the book at this guy

[caprimint]

RIP Sarah :(

[Zizu]

i think they will have tried to destroy the evidence and they may be dealing with remains that don't resemble a human body. That's what i took from the met chief saying that they thought it was human remains



‘ they ‘ ??



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[arista]

‘ they ‘ ??




Maybe he means his Wife
as well.

[Niamh.]

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[Ammi]

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[arista]

A Saturday Vigil for Sarah
on Clapham Common has been Blocked by a High Court.
Due to Covid Restrictions.

BBC1 London news reports.



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[Vanessa]

A Saturday Vigil for Sarah
on Clapham Common has been Blocked by a High Court.
Due to Covid Restrictions.

BBC1 London news reports.

I know that area well. I used to live there.
There's a big park.

[Zizu]

I know that area well. I used to live there.

There's a big park.



Suppose they could all go for a ‘walk’ and social distance ??


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[arista]

Killer Cop has been Charged
will be in Westminster Court Tomorrow.


[Wayne Couzens, 48, will appear before Westminster Magistrates' Court tomorrow.]

[caprimint]

Suppose they could all go for a ‘walk’ and social distance ??


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They could, but who actually cares??

Sarah's death is x10000000000x more important than anything related to covid.

[UserSince2005]

As a man can I go to Russell Square tomorrow for the vigil or is it women only. Don’t want to scare anyone

[joeysteele]

Killer Cop has been Charged
will be in Westminster Court Tomorrow.


[Wayne Couzens, 48, will appear before Westminster Magistrates' Court tomorrow.]

Good.

Awful tragedy this, really sick.

[Cherie]

He joined the police in 2018 at age 45 :conf:

He has sustained another head injury in his cell, looks like he is trying to kill himself

[arista]

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[Ammi]

A vigil for Sarah Everard in Clapham this evening has been cancelled following discussions with police.

Reclaim These Streets tweeted: "We are sorry to confirm that our Clapham vigil scheduled for tonight is cancelled. Please see the full statement here.

"Instead, we are fundraising £320,000 for women's causes: £10K for every proposed fine for the 32 vigils originally scheduled."

In the statement they said: "We have been very disappointed that given the many opportunities to engage with organisers constructively, the Metropolitan Police have been unwilling to commit to anything.

"It remains our view that with the appropriate mutually agreed measures in place, this evening's vigil on Clapham Common would have been safe and in line with restrictions and safety regulations."

Instead of tonight's event, organisers said that a virtual gathering would be arranged.


https://news.sky.com/story/clapham-vigil-for-sarah-everard-cancelled-organisers-say-12244410

[Cherie]

A vigil for Sarah Everard in Clapham this evening has been cancelled following discussions with police.

Reclaim These Streets tweeted: "We are sorry to confirm that our Clapham vigil scheduled for tonight is cancelled. Please see the full statement here.

"Instead, we are fundraising £320,000 for women's causes: £10K for every proposed fine for the 32 vigils originally scheduled."

In the statement they said: "We have been very disappointed that given the many opportunities to engage with organisers constructively, the Metropolitan Police have been unwilling to commit to anything.

"It remains our view that with the appropriate mutually agreed measures in place, this evening's vigil on Clapham Common would have been safe and in line with restrictions and safety regulations."

Instead of tonight's event, organisers said that a virtual gathering would be arranged.


https://news.sky.com/story/clapham-vigil-for-sarah-everard-cancelled-organisers-say-12244410


The right call. Sarah family should be involved in any organised vigil and its hard to think they are anywhere near doing that at the moment

[bots]

i would have more sympathy for the vigil if it were not being organised by a bunch of activists with an alternative agenda

[arista]

i would have more sympathy for the vigil if it were not being organised by a bunch of activists with an alternative agenda


Yes.

[Mystic Mock]

Sad news, RIP and my condolences to her family.

I would love to know why a Police Officer was allegedly going around kidnapping and murdering an innocent civilian though, and why did he pick Sarah?

[arista]

Sad news, RIP and my condolences to her family.

I would love to know why a Police Officer was allegedly going around kidnapping and murdering an innocent civilian though, and why did he pick Sarah?


A younger version
of his Foreign Wife
I assume.

"Images from a few pages back"
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/03/12/07/article-9354109-40374030-797_964x541.jpg

[arista]

The Evil Police man goes to the Old Bailey court on Tuesday


LBC News

[Kate!]

He's appeared at the Magistrates Court this morning but hasn't entered a plea yet. Remanded in custody.

[arista]

He's appeared at the Magistrates Court this morning but hasn't entered a plea yet. Remanded in custody.

Yes Westminster.

But the Big One is on Tuesday
Old Bailey.

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

1370708571944587267

[arista]

Friday Front Page

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwO4Bi7XAAQVqMV?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Ammi]

Sarah Everard: 33-year-old's body found in large bag and identified by dental records, court hears...

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/sarah-everard-police-officer-wayne-084600549.html

[Kazanne]

Sarah Everard: 33-year-old's body found in large bag and identified by dental records, court hears...

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/sarah-everard-police-officer-wayne-084600549.html

Blimey that's grim,I did wonder why they were looking at 'remains'after such a short time, he has obviously tried to make identification hard.

[arista]

Sarah Everard: 33-year-old's body found in large bag and identified by dental records, court hears...

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/sarah-everard-police-officer-wayne-084600549.html


I assume those great Police Dogs help find her.

Evil Armed Police Man Couzons
must never get released.

[Nicky91]

was also covered on our dutch NOS evening news last night

[arista]

Women on the Phone
live to LBC
says she is going to Clapham Common Vigil at 6PM.

She says, it will be part of her daily exercise.


I hope the Police Fine her £10,000
as the Court has banned it.

Rules under Covid Restrictions Matter

[arista]

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[Beso]

It's all gone off a bit.

[Cherie]

It's all gone off a bit.

What do you mean

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/03/13/19/40426242-0-image-a-104_1615662651552.jpg

[Zizu]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/03/13/19/40426242-0-image-a-104_1615662651552.jpg



Just seen that clip ... I kinda like Kate but I’m not sure she should be walking freely amongst the masses ... no bodyguards close and not wearing a mask as she literally brushed past the other people


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[Zizu]

It’s live on Sky now !

Hoards of people ignore the law / rules .

I’d severely punish the organisers of this ... I’m sure they’ll claim that ‘everyone just happened to turn up on the night’ but the truth will soon leak out ..


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[Zizu]

I dread to think how many Covid deaths will come from all these people mixing so closely together.

What’s the infection rate in that area ??


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[Zizu]

I dread to think how many Covid deaths will come from all these people mixing so closely together.

What’s the infection rate in that area ??


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[Smithy]

I dread to think how many Covid deaths will come from all these people mixing so closely together.

What’s the infection rate in that area ??


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Looks like 99% of them are wearing masks! So probably not many

[Zizu]

Looks like 99% of them are wearing masks! So probably not many



To be fair the majority were/are are wearing masks but it’s shown hundreds who aren’t ... plus many pull them down when they’re talking to someone else ..


I’d still be intrigued how tonight effects the infection rate over the next week or so ...

Rest assured if it does appear to have had a negative effect on the numbers there will be a hell of a fuss made ..

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[Vanessa]

I agree with the sentiment, but we're still on lockdown :facepalm:

[Zizu]

I agree with the sentiment, but we're still on lockdown :facepalm:



We’re in such a precarious position as well .. so many other countries are going back into lockdown and closing again yet THOUSANDS choose to congregate like this .. I’m baffled


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[hijaxers]

We’re in such a precarious position as well .. so many other countries are going back into lockdown and closing again yet THOUSANDS choose to congregate like this .. I’m baffled


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Yes its true but emotions are running very high ~ women quite rightly are sick of it ~ for this to be an armed copper ( trying to bash his own head in it seems at every opportunity) this has brought to the fore so many things women have been raged about for so many years.

[bots]

people haven't been allowed to attend loved ones funerals, so i can't condone a mass gathering like this. However, reports seem to suggest that police were way to heavy handed in dispersing people and given it was a policeman who murdered the woman, it all looks really bad

[joeysteele]

people haven't been allowed to attend loved ones funerals, so i can't condone a mass gathering like this. However, reports seem to suggest that police were way to heavy handed in dispersing people and given it was a policeman who murdered the woman, it all looks really bad

Yes, I hold mixed views on it too.
I agree with you, it looks unnecessarily bad.

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

people haven't been allowed to attend loved ones funerals, so i can't condone a mass gathering like this. However, reports seem to suggest that police were way to heavy handed in dispersing people and given it was a policeman who murdered the woman, it all looks really bad

Yes more than 1,000
were all close together.

And the Police asked them to go home


Reclaim the Streets.
That's the Trouble makers

[arista]

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[Ammi]

...this was always going to be difficult though, Arista...Sarah was trying to go home but her life was brutally taken by an officer of the law, someone who also should have been protecting her...

[Nicky91]

those people had no rights to be out on the streets and breaking covid rules


also shame on you Princess Kate, especially now when royals are under fire anyway :nono: tut tut

[Zizu]

those people had no rights to be out on the streets and breaking covid rules


also shame on you Princess Kate, especially now when royals are under fire anyway :nono: tut tut



Yes I like her but I don’t agree with what she did yesterday.


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[arista]

...this was always going to be difficult though, Arista...Sarah was trying to go home but her life was brutally taken by an officer of the law, someone who also should have been protecting her...


Yes he used his Police Status to Kidnap her
I assume he raped her, then killed her.
Evil Police Officer.


But last night those women were
breaking Covid Restrictions Rules



So the Police asked them to go home
they refused.
The Police last night were doing their Job.

[Ammi]

...I noticed that the Twitter vid showed two female officers with the lady...?...I wonder if there were purposefully many female police officers on duty at the vigil, as oppose to male officers...

[arista]

...I noticed that the Twitter vid showed two female officers with the lady...?...I wonder if there were purposefully many female police officers on duty at the vigil, as oppose to male officers...


Yes clever move.

[Vanessa]

It just looked a bit heavy handed.
I know police were just doing their job, but there's no need for that.

[Oliver_W]

So the police don't see fit to intervene when "protesters" are causing trouble and committing vandalism, but standing around with candles is just too much.

[arista]

It just looked a bit heavy handed.
I know police were just doing their job, but there's no need for that.


Rubbish Vanessa
they had been there for hours.

Not in that Edit
The Police asked them all to go home
they ignored the Police.

[Nicky91]

So the police don't see fit to intervene when "protesters" are causing trouble and committing vandalism, but standing around with candles is just too much.

it is a form of social gathering, and that is not allowed these times

[arista]

So the police don't see fit to intervene when "protesters" are causing trouble and committing vandalism, but standing around with candles is just too much.


Standing all close to each other

Is Covid Laws breaking


Oliver
Wake Up

[smudgie]

Kate should have at least had her mask on, but then it wouldn’t be such a good photo opportunity:shrug:
Not a very good example to set to be honest.

[Toy Soldier]

I actually didn't notice that she wasn't wearing a mask (forgot about Covid for a moment :omgno: ) and I have to wonder why? I very much doubt its accidental but I'm struggling to figure out the reasoning.

[Beso]

So the police don't see fit to intervene when "protesters" are causing trouble and committing vandalism, but standing around with candles is just too much.

That's not what happened...They had had thier moment with the candles, and the police stood back and allowed it.

It was when they were then asked to move on that some remained and started stirring up trouble.

[Beso]

I actually didn't notice that she wasn't wearing a mask (forgot about Covid for a moment :omgno: ) and I have to wonder why? I very much doubt its accidental but I'm struggling to figure out the reasoning.

It is not a legal requirement to wear a mask outside in a public space.

[Zizu]

Kate should have at least had her mask on, but then it wouldn’t be such a good photo opportunity:shrug:

Not a very good example to set to be honest.



I don’t see why she’s taking the risk of walking and brushing past people .. no mask but no bodyguards who were close enough to stop someone doing something crazy ..


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[Zizu]

Sky are reporting live now !!




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[Toy Soldier]

It is not a legal requirement to wear a mask outside in a public space.

True and though while it's a crowded place, thinking about it logically, it's very unlikely that members of the public actually got close to Kate. The picture makes it look like there are people nearby but it's probably forced-perspective for effect (like all those "crowded beach" pictures last summer).

Just more press dishonesty, I guess.

From a PR perspective though I'm surprised she wasn't wearing one anyway.

[Oliver_W]

Yeah I've not seen footage, but I doubt Kate was among the crowds like a normal person. She'd surely have a small entourage or something? And largely largely be in a different "section" while there?

[Toy Soldier]

Yeah I've not seen footage, but I doubt Kate was among the crowds like a normal person. She'd surely have a small entourage or something? And largely largely be in a different "section" while there?

Apparently she went "on the downlow" and was only papped by a member of the public. There will definitely have been security nearby though. The narrative is all a little odd... like I said I'd have expected "masks for PR reasons" at all times to be the default for high-profile figures, even if not technically necessary.

She could also quite feasibly have slipped in and out completely anonymously if she WAS wearing a mask - mandatory masks must be great for celebs who don't want to be recognised. A nice big facemask and a baseball cap and an A-lister could have a wander round Tesco without anyone batting an eye.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Apparently she went "on the downlow" and was only papped by a member of the public. There will definitely have been security nearby though. The narrative is all a little odd... like I said I'd have expected "masks for PR reasons" at all times to be the default for high-profile figures, even if not technically necessary.

She could also quite feasibly have slipped in and out completely anonymously if she WAS wearing a mask - mandatory masks must be great for celebs who don't want to be recognised. A nice big facemask and a baseball cap and an A-lister could have a wander round Tesco without anyone batting an eye.

she will have been vaccinated so no need

[Toy Soldier]

she will have been vaccinated so no need

I'm assuming you actually know this is false/unknown at this point.

[Zizu]

True and though while it's a crowded place, thinking about it logically, it's very unlikely that members of the public actually got close to Kate. The picture makes it look like there are people nearby but it's probably forced-perspective for effect (like all those "crowded beach" pictures last summer).

Just more press dishonesty, I guess.

From a PR perspective though I'm surprised she wasn't wearing one anyway.



To be honest the tv footage yesterday showed her brushing past people .. at one point even squeezing between two people ... I was more stunned at the poor security more than her not wearing a mask


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[Toy Soldier]

To be honest the tv footage yesterday showed her brushing past people .. at one point even squeezing between two people ... I was more stunned at the poor security more than her not wearing a mask


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Not going to lie it is sus and were I a more cynical person I might think designed to demonstrate that "Kate has freedom, see?". I don't know. Something feels off.

[Ammi]

To be honest the tv footage yesterday showed her brushing past people .. at one point even squeezing between two people ... I was more stunned at the poor security more than her not wearing a mask


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...I’m thinking that the security would have been there but just in a less visible way and she may have had some kind of alarm button or whatever fitted to her person/in her clothing etc...security was something that would create some difficulty because it could appear intimidating, which would go against everything that was being expressed in the vigil...I do agree that a ‘best practice’ mask would have been the better way for her to be seen...

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'm assuming you actually know this is false/unknown at this point.

I'd imagine all the senior royals will have been vaccinated since they are still going about their duties?

id hope so anyroad

[Ammi]

Not going to lie it is sus and were I a more cynical person I might think designed to demonstrate that "Kate has freedom, see?". I don't know. Something feels off.

...it has been reported that this was a PR exercise as well but it’s also ‘very Kate’, I think...it’s very representative of the person she is so I’m going to put the PR thing down to ‘over cynical social media’...I do believe that she tried to remain discreet...as discreet as a Royal can be...and as discreet as the media are portraying while putting her on every front page...

[Toy Soldier]

I'd imagine all the senior royals will have been vaccinated since they are still going about their duties?



id hope so anyroadThe vaccine is not 100% effective and there is no data on whether or not vaccinated people are 100% immune, only that it massively reduces positive test rates and severe illness, whether or not vaxed people can still be asymptomatic carries has not been researched yet, and Kate is in a demographic that has a high likelihood of not being at personal risk of severe symptoms but could easily still be carrier. Lots of at-risk people in the family.

[Toy Soldier]

...it has been reported that this was a PR exercise as well but it’s also ‘very Kate’, I think...it’s very representative of the person she is so I’m going to put the PR thing down to ‘over cynical social media’...I do believe that she tried to remain discreet...as discreet as a Royal can be...and as discreet as the media are portraying while putting her on every front page...She would have been more discreet (potentially unidentifiable) in a mask though which is what makes something about it feel slightly off, to me. Put her in jogging clothes, a large face covering and tied back hair and I swear she could have jogged right through the crowd without anyone being any the wiser. On top of that, usually when we've seen William and Kate in public recently, they HAVE been wearing masks (including outdoors) so why choose not to wear one, for the first time, whilst trying hard to be discreet? I'm not trying to make conspiracy theories per se but in some ways it doesn't add up.

[bots]

she would have arrived in a limo with a team of heavies, so i don't buy the narrative that she didn't wear a mask so she was recognised. It would be the easiest thing in the world to highlight that a "special" visitor was there. That being said, there is no requirement to wear a mask out doors, so i don't know why everyone is getting their knickers knotted :laugh:

[Ammi]

She would have been more discreet (potentially unidentifiable) in a mask though which is what makes something about it feel slightly off, to me. Put her in jogging clothes, a large face covering and tied back hair and I swear she could have jogged right through the crowd without anyone being any the wiser. On top of that, usually when we've seen William and Kate in public recently, they HAVE been wearing masks (including outdoors) so why choose not to wear one, for the first time, whilst trying hard to be discreet? I'm not trying to make conspiracy theories per se but in some ways it doesn't add up.

...I don’t really disagree with you with most of what you say, TS...I guess I’m just trying to not form too many thoughts if I’m honest, just because I’m trying to keep my head more about it all being about Sarah, you know....it’s just really difficult, though...

[Ammi]

she would have arrived in a limo with a team of heavies, so i don't buy the narrative that she didn't wear a mask so she was recognised. It would be the easiest thing in the world to highlight that a "special" visitor was there. That being said, there is no requirement to wear a mask out doors, so i don't know why everyone is getting their knickers knotted :laugh:

...nobody is getting knotted about any of it, bots...we all know that wearing a mask outdoors isn’t a requirement ...but in crowded outdoor situations/gatherings such as that, mask wearing would indicate a best practice that would have been good to see...that’s a fair and reasoned observation, surely...

[Oliver_W]

Apparently she went "on the downlow" and was only papped by a member of the public. There will definitely have been security nearby though. The narrative is all a little odd... like I said I'd have expected "masks for PR reasons" at all times to be the default for high-profile figures, even if not technically necessary.

She could also quite feasibly have slipped in and out completely anonymously if she WAS wearing a mask - mandatory masks must be great for celebs who don't want to be recognised. A nice big facemask and a baseball cap and an A-lister could have a wander round Tesco without anyone batting an eye.

I have to go into London this week for a hospital thing, I'm half tempted to wear big mask, sunglasses, and a cap to see if anyone thinks I'm a celeb on the DL :dance:

Though I'm more likely to look like a terrorist or school shooter than celeb...

[AnnieK]

...I don’t really disagree with you with most of what you say, TS...I guess I’m just trying to not form too many thoughts if I’m honest, just because I’m trying to keep my head more about it all being about Sarah, you know....it’s just really difficult, though...

That's my main issue with Kate being there. I find it sad that the headlines are about her and not about Sarah. Kate was doing a heartfelt thing it seems but it has now become about her being there and not just about Sarah.

[Beso]

She would have been more discreet (potentially unidentifiable) in a mask though which is what makes something about it feel slightly off, to me. Put her in jogging clothes, a large face covering and tied back hair and I swear she could have jogged right through the crowd without anyone being any the wiser. On top of that, usually when we've seen William and Kate in public recently, they HAVE been wearing masks (including outdoors) so why choose not to wear one, for the first time, whilst trying hard to be discreet? I'm not trying to make conspiracy theories per se but in some ways it doesn't add up.



If she had been jogging with a mask on she would have stood out a mile.

[Beso]

Maybe she didnt wear the mask so she would be seen and recognised. Maybe she did this to highlight the male on female violence issues the whole thing was about.

[Nicky91]

I'd imagine all the senior royals will have been vaccinated since they are still going about their duties?

id hope so anyroad

even if vaccinated you still need to wear a mask cuz u might be a spreader of covid

[arista]

Maybe she didnt wear the mask so she would be seen and recognised. Maybe she did this to highlight the male on female violence issues the whole thing was about.


Yes could well be.

[arista]

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Have got 100's Angry Protestors outside New Scotland Yard.

Crazy, no need.

[arista]

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[arista]

The Labour Leader (SkyNewsHD)
is sick of this being a long term problem.

He is ready to set a 300 page bill on women rights.


Local Elections in May

[Kazanne]

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Ridiculous when we are still supposed to be careful ,but yes lets blame the police for trying to keep the angry mob safe. What were they supposed to do let people run riot ,and spread the virus regardless of other peoples safety.

[arista]

A large amount has moved to Parliament Sq.

Sitting on the Grass

[Jordan.]

Ridiculous when we are still supposed to be careful ,but yes lets blame the police for trying to keep the angry mob safe. What were they supposed to do let people run riot ,and spread the virus regardless of other peoples safety.

Who was running riot? from what I saw it was a peaceful day of people mourning and paying their respects. Yes they really shouldn't have been there but whatever affects that is going to have on the pandemic would've happened regardless of the police showing up to push and shove them around and do nothing but cause further gatherings like the one today.

[Beso]

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They keep shouting shame on you at nobody.


I say shame on them...today....not last night.