Public Fatness

[Crimson Dynamo]

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Public health has never been a priority in the UK

We have shocking levels of obesity and shocking levels of Covid-19 deaths.

90% of global deaths have occurred in countries with high rates of obesity.

No country with high death rates has less than 50% of its population overweight.

Vietnam has the lowest covid death rate in the world and the 2nd lowest
level of overweight people.

The UK has the 3rd highest death rate in the world and the 4th highest obesity rate. It does not prove cause and effect but its highly suspicious.

In the UK 80% of adults carry excess body fat so are high risk of premature death not just from covid but diabetes, heart disease, cancer, liver and kidney disease and suicide.

You name it and obesity increases your risk of it. It should be a priority.

(Private Eye: current issue)

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20200826/Obesity-ups-COVID-19-death-risk-by-48-percent.aspx

[UserSince2005]

open up gyms then ya dumb bitches

[Josy]

Well a good start would be to stop them advertising and selling big macs for a quid and fruit n veg for a fortune.

[user104658]

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Public health has never been a priority in the UK

We have shocking levels of obesity and shocking levels of Covid-19 deaths.

90% of global deaths have occurred in countries with high rates of obesity.

No country with high death rates has less than 50% of its population overweight.

Vietnam has the lowest covid death rate in the world and the 2nd lowest
level of overweight people.

The UK has the 3rd highest death rate in the world and the 4th highest obesity rate. It does not prove cause and effect but its highly suspicious.

In the UK 80% of adults carry excess body fat so are high risk of premature death not just from covid but diabetes, heart disease, cancer, liver and kidney disease and suicide.

Hmmmmmm partially but a bit misleading; the number one risk factor for Covid death is age, pure and simple, no ifs or buts, and countries with high levels of obesity tend to be affluent countries which also have a higher overall life expectancy. It will play a part obviously and it is a huge health issue in other ways, but I think the "high covid deaths because people are fat" proposition is dubious.


You name it and obesity increases your risk of it.

Starvation. HAH! Gotcha.

[Niamh.]

Starvation. HAH! Gotcha.

:laugh2:

[Marsh.]

open up gyms then ya dumb bitches

You don't need a gym to eat less and move more.

[bots]

i do admit to adding a few pounds in the last year

[Captain.Remy]

Chile recently positioned itself as a world leader in obesity-control strategies as per their latest "anti-obesity" measures.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/11/chiles-drastic-anti-obesity-measures-cut-sugary-drink-sales-by-23

In France, what's in the books for later this year is to stop promoting any type of junk/high sugar food in commercial breaks during kids shows on TV and online.

[DouglasS]

You don't need a gym to eat less and move more.

Gyms motivate people to move more and do more, closing gyms is obviously going to result in an increase of obesity, they’re directly related..

[Marsh.]

Gyms motivate people to move more and do more

No sh*t Sherlock.

Do gyms motivate? Yes.
Are gyms NECESSARY to keep weight off? No.

[DouglasS]

No sh*t Sherlock.

Do gyms motivate? Yes.
Are gyms NECESSARY to keep weight off? No.

For some people they are necessary to keep weight off.

That’s just like saying schools aren’t necessary for people to become educated, yes technically some people can self teach... but for many they are necessary

You do not speak for everyone, do you even use the gym? Because I am speaking from the perspective of an avid gym goer and have seen obese people start the gym and lose the weight in front of my eyes over a large period.

[Marsh.]

That’s just like saying schools aren’t necessary for people to become educated, yes technically some people can self teach...

The dumbest analogy.

and have seen obese people start the gym and lose the weight in front of my eyes over a large period.

Right? Good for you?

[GoldHeart]

Yeah there's definitely other ways to keep the weight off, yes some people might prefer the gym.

But there's walking, there's eating less and more healthy.
And there's indoor exercises . I think some of us just feel less motivated at times.

[DouglasS]

The dumbest analogy.



Right? Good for you?

A great analogy :clap1:


Just pointing out the correlation with gyms closing and obesity increasing, glad to educate you on the matter

[Marsh.]

Yeah there's definitely other ways to keep the weight off, yes some people might prefer the gym.

But there's walking, there's eating less and more healthy.
And there's indoor exercises . I think some of us just feel less motivated at times.

Yep, there's a tonne of people even more motivated too. Online fitness classes with trainers, people having more free time to exercise.

Far too simplistic to say "Oh, gym's are closed. That's why people are fat". :joker: But people like to feel clever.

[Cherie]

Some people need the structure of a gym or classes to exercise, pointless walking if you are just ambling along you need your heart rate raised to benefit

[Nicky91]

good, i went to gym only few times so far (mostly quite some years back since i was too lazy according to my mom, and since i was back then still growing in my teens i had to remain in shape, but i never found it much fun, and also working on how i walk, i am sometimes more like hunchback of notre dame, and as a tall guy like me, that is bad for your back)

gyms are good for you yes, and also you can socially distance and stick to rules in gyms i have to mention as well, what US had done after their first wave tbh what we know

[Captain.Remy]

The TIBB Gods know I don't always agree with Marsh, but come on guys, he's not wrong about this. He didn't say gyms don't help to keep weight off, but that gyms are not the only way to keep weight off. The post was crystal clear. So on this note indeed gyms aren't always necessary to keep weight off.
And it's actually true. Some people keep weight off through different ways: swimming, eating better (which you need to for the gym exercices to work properly anyway), walk, play a different sport, reduce stress etc In the end the common factor is to eat better and move more. Plain and simple.

I was a fat kid and then played rugby first for many years before hitting the gym from the age of 15. At 15, I was big but not fat and hitting the gym kept me at a good weight level. I could have done without it, had my end goal was different. Some of my rugby mates never hit the gym and kept weight off too.
So it really depends on your end goal. Different means for different people, and not all techniques work for everybody. You have to find your own.
At the end of the day, promoting healthier eating habits and encouraging to move more (and better!) is the way forward to prevent such rising health crisis.

[Marsh.]

The TIBB Gods know I don't always agree with Marsh, but come on guys, he's not wrong about this. He didn't say gyms don't help to keep weight off, but that gyms are not the only way to keep weight off. The post was crystal clear. So on this note indeed gyms aren't always necessary to keep weight off.

They know that. It was a piss poor attempt at baiting. :laugh:

Not to mention a lot of people can't afford trainers or gym memberships, and don't need them to follow an exercise regimen.

[Denver]

You only need a calorie deficit to lose weight you dont need to do a **** load of exercise request the calories and eat less carbs and your daily routine should be enough

[Amy Jade]

They know that. It was a piss poor attempt at baiting. :laugh:

Not to mention a lot of people can't afford trainers or gym memberships, and don't need them to follow an exercise regimen.

I agree.

In my opinion gyms are just the tip of the iceberg, I wouldn't be surprised if groups like slimmers world and weight watchers closing has done more harm.

[Denver]

I agree.

In my opinion gyms are just the tip of the iceberg, I wouldn't be surprised if groups like slimmers world and weight watchers closing has done more harm.

Isn't slimming world very bad? I know one of the groups was telling people they had to sin medication

[Crimson Dynamo]

Id like to know how people are lifting heavy weights without gyms?

[Denver]

Id like to know how people are lifting heavy weights without gyms?

You dont lift weights to lose weight

[GoldHeart]

They know that. It was a piss poor attempt at baiting. :laugh:

Not to mention a lot of people can't afford trainers or gym memberships, and don't need them to follow an exercise regimen.

Yeah plus some people already have a mini gym in their homes for free :laugh: .

[Captain.Remy]

Id like to know how people are lifting heavy weights without gyms?

It depends on your end goal really. Lighting heavy weights isn’t the first step to keep weight off anyway.
And during lockdown I filled a lot of bottle waters and tied them together to lift some weight :laugh: Creativity is key.

[DouglasS]

You dont lift weights to lose weight

I personally do, so that’s not completely true. Lifting weights is a good form of exercise which can be done to both bulk and cut down

[Denver]

I personally do, so that’s not completely true. Lifting weights is a good form of exercise which can be done to both bulk and cut down
Weights are used for improving the strength and size of muscles which in turn will steal make you put weight on but it will be a more healthier weight

[Crimson Dynamo]

everyone should be lifting heavy weights at all times

and note to women - not the pathetic weights i see women lift in gyms

real heavy weights

[Josy]

Weights are used for improving the strength and size of muscles which in turn will steal make you put weight on but it will be a more healthier weightLifting weights is fantastic for weight loss.

Yes a lot use it for bulking up by combining it with high protein diets etc but lots do it solely for losing weight too

[DouglasS]

Weights are used for improving the strength and size of muscles which in turn will steal make you put weight on but it will be a more healthier weight

Not at all true, as josy said weights are great for weight loss also, I have seen fantastic results myself. Not sure where you are getting your one shoe fits all approach from

[Vicky.]

Id like to know how people are lifting heavy weights without gyms?

My husband has a weight bench thing, that you get in the gym..had a treadmill too, and rowing machine til recently!

[user104658]

If you lift weights on a non calorie restricted diet you’ll gain muscle but not lose fat, however the more muscle you have the more calories you burn just existing doing literally nothing.

If you lift weights on a calorie deficit you won’t gain much muscle mass but you will lose fat, because you’re on a calorie deficit. You’ll lose even more if you carb cycle and exercise on low carb days.

There literally is no better way to lose weight than to gain muscle.

You won’t lose much weight at all doing light to medium cardio because cardio uses sugars and other carbs up first, so to lose weight from cardio you need to be doing quite heavy cardio to do it through pure calorie deficit (you need to run for quite a long time to burn a significant number) OR you need to also be on a calorie restricted diet of like under 1500 which frankly is a ****ing miserable way to live :joker:

[user104658]

Body weight exercises can actually be really effective alternative to a gym if you do them right. Most people are not going to be lifting heavier than their own body weight.

Also don’t take the advice of lifting super heavy without building up to it, you’ll DEFINITELY tear something or **** up a tendon and then you won’t be doing any exercise at all for a while.