View Full Version : USA Troops to leave Afghanistan by 11 September (2 Suicide bomber outside airport)
Cherie
24-08-2021, 04:22 PM
In all honesty I can't see how it could have been any worse, consulting with Allies should have been a given :shrug:
At least we knew where we were with Trump, Biden is all over the shop
What happened is that Trump took apart all the deep state structures (that's why the fake news was against him for his entire presidency) and now we're seeing them putting those structures back in place. Endless wars suits them just dandy.
Nicky91
24-08-2021, 04:28 PM
In all honesty I can't see how it could have been any worse, consulting with Allies should have been a given :shrug:
At least we knew where we were with Trump, Biden is all over the shop
yeah well at least then you know you cannot sink any lower, you got a good point
The Slim Reaper
24-08-2021, 04:30 PM
Trump got Pakistan to release all the Taliban leaders and would have done this exact thing in May when vaccination levels were even lower.
trump started this mess, but biden is doing a grand job continuing it
Tom4784
24-08-2021, 04:47 PM
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arista
24-08-2021, 04:49 PM
A Congressman Live on FoxNewsHD Capitol Hill.
Said one of his helpers had USA documemts to leave Kabul
but the Taliban picked him out and drove him to his village
Beheaded all his family
then him.
Thats so sad.
trump started this mess, but biden is doing a grand job continuing itWhat?
What, where, when and How did Trump start this?
user104658
24-08-2021, 04:53 PM
trump started this mess, but biden is doing a grand job continuing it
Because they're not at the wheel! It really couldn't be more obvious. It's like seeing Trump then Biden thaking turns standing in the front carriage of a moving freight train with a bus driver's hat on, and saying "Why aren't they steering?".
user104658
24-08-2021, 04:53 PM
What?
What, where, when and How did Trump start this?
... ... ... you are aware that Trump initiated the deal to withdraw from Afghanistan, right?
arista
24-08-2021, 04:54 PM
Panjshir Valley
has been Blocked off
Taliban Fighting with bigger Land Machine guns
behind protected gear
Video was on WION HD just now
arista
24-08-2021, 04:56 PM
... ... ... you are aware that Trump initiated the deal to withdraw from Afghanistan, right?
Yes Trump set up all the agreements
it was concluding, but Trump lost the Election.
Biden Changed the May date
to Sept 11.
The Slim Reaper
24-08-2021, 04:58 PM
Yes Trump set up all the agreements
it was concluding, but Trump lost the Election.
Biden Changed the May date
to Sept 11.
So this would have happened sooner when vaccination rates were lower? If only someone had said this a week ago and then again 5 minute ago :smug:
I'm so sick of people trying to make out that Trump was somehow better. The man nearly brought us into WW3, we never knew where we were with him because he was crazy and petulant. Let's not get nostalgic over a mad man.
Biden is terrible, but that doesn't magically make all the wrongs and crimes committed by Trump suddenly disappear.
Perhaps his craziness was the weapon that kept our opponents from starting world war 3!
arista
24-08-2021, 05:04 PM
Biden is going Live
soon.
Keeping his 31st Aug 21 Date to conclude
USA troops starting to leave from Friday, reports say.
Cherie
24-08-2021, 05:05 PM
Biden is going Live
soon.
Keeping his 31st Aug 21 Date to conclude
USA troops starting to leave from Friday, reports say.
That date isn't changing I don't know why they are even suggesting it will
Tom4784
24-08-2021, 05:06 PM
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Cherie
24-08-2021, 05:07 PM
Perhaps his craziness was the weapon that kept our opponents from starting world war 3!
You are probably half right :laugh:
arista
24-08-2021, 05:08 PM
That date isn't changing I don't know why they are even suggesting it will
No one is now
Once Biden goes Live on SkyNewsHD and CNN HD
he can seal it.
I wonder if he will skip questions.
The lies people tell themselves are quite remarkable.
Let's not get personal tonight or I will have to mention you lying to yourself about flouncing from the forum.:nono:
arista
24-08-2021, 05:16 PM
https://cdn.wionews.com/sites/default/files/styles/story_page/public/2021/08/24/208175-untitled-design.jpg
Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/08/24/17/47049317-0-image-m-17_1629822903104.jpg
arista
24-08-2021, 05:19 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/08/24/16/47035811-9922849-Likely_discussed_at_the_meeting_Monday_was_the_Aug ust_31_deadlin-a-7_1629820642726.jpg
[U.S. soldiers guard Kabul airport
on Tuesday as thousands of desperate Afghans
crowd at the gates in the hopes of fleeing the Taliban]
Loads trying to get out
should not be there.
arista
24-08-2021, 05:28 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9j39sdXIAsR5Ai?format=jpg&name=small
That Taliban Leader was locked up
but the CIA 20 years ago.
But they both agree to keep ISIS out.
But they both agree to keep ISIS out.
the taliban freed 5000 isis fighters from prison last week to go on their merry way
arista
24-08-2021, 05:36 PM
the taliban freed 5000 isis fighters from prison last week to go on their merry way
They were not all ISIS.
But it is true all prisoners got freedom
many joining the Taliban
arista
24-08-2021, 05:36 PM
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Cherie
24-08-2021, 05:36 PM
the taliban freed 5000 isis fighters from prison last week to go on their merry way
Hopefully not the guy who got on a plane out who had a ‘no fly’ against him who has now disappeared in Birmingham
arista
24-08-2021, 05:38 PM
Hopefully not the guy who got on a plane out who had a ‘no fly’ against him who has now disappeared in Birmingham
They have arrested him
joeysteele
24-08-2021, 05:46 PM
This is really concerning the mess this has become and unnecessarily too.
It's becoming clear the special relationship between the UK and USA only appears to work with us following the US, not vice versa.
As for Biden, I am massively disappointed in his terrible and wrong judgement on this evacuation from Afghanistan.
It's awful and will rightly cone back to haunt him politically I hope.
HOWEVER too, as to Trump.
The problem with him was you never knew where you were with him.
He was reckless, heartless and dangerous in his Presidency.
Plus he was the original architect of this horrendous mess unfolding.
Although the one who executed and opened up the chaos to come re Afghanistan, is undoubtedly Biden.
To me it's all another case of an abandonment of duty.
This is really concerning the mess this has become and unnecessarily too.
It's becoming clear the special relationship between the UK and USA only appears to work with us following the US, not vice versa.
As for Biden, I am massively disappointed in his terrible and wrong judgement on this evacuation from Afghanistan.
It's awful and will rightly cone back to haunt him politically I hope.
HOWEVER too, as to Trump.
The problem with him was you never knew where you were with him.
He was reckless, heartless and dangerous in his Presidency.
Plus he was the original architect of this horrendous mess unfolding.
Although the one who executed and opened up the chaos to come re Afghanistan, is undoubtedly Biden.
To me it's all another case of an abandonment of duty.You never knew where you were with Trump? Maybe the problem was that you never actually listened to him and instead just listened to people's opinions of him. Trump was pretty plain speaking and I think people understood exactly where they where with him. He certainly didn't hold back from saying what he meant.
His message was clear from the start. "we're gonna drain the deep state swamp and give the power back to you the people, America and Americans first"
arista
24-08-2021, 06:10 PM
Johnson PM is talking some rubbish
saying he can still carry on after 31st of August,
getting people out.
Ch4HDnews Live
joeysteele
24-08-2021, 06:11 PM
You never knew where you were with Trump? Maybe the problem was that you never actually listened to him and instead just listened to people's opinions of him. Trump was pretty plain speaking and I think people understood exactly where they where with him. He certainly didn't hold back from saying what he meant.
His message was clear from the start. "we're gonna drain the deep state swamp and give the power back to you the people, America and Americans first"
No.
I rarely listen to others and make my own mind up on others, particularly those entrusted with power.
Trump was a dangerous and paranoid individual who is only consumed with a need of control and power.
That's my view, rightly or wrongly of him, formed from my own observations and listening to his inane rantings.
If others were fooled by him, I certainly wasn't.
Nor ever will be.
Biden, for his faults is wrong bigtime on seeing this through, this disaster looming re Afghanistan.
It would prevent me supporting him again were I am American voter.
Any policy that risks and loses lives unnecessarily deserves contempt only.
However, unlike Trump and his divisively hateful ideas, Biden still is not in Trump's league of being unsavoury.
arista
24-08-2021, 06:17 PM
President Biden is going Live soon.
SkyNewsHD and CNN HD
No.
I rarely listen to others and make my own mind up on others, particularly those entrusted with power.
Trump was a dangerous and paranoid individual who is only consumed with a need of control and power.
That's my view, rightly or wrongly of him, formed from my own observations and listening to his inane rantings.
If others were fooled by him, I certainly wasn't.
Nor ever will be.
Biden, for his faults is wrong bigtime on seeing this through, this disaster looming re Afghanistan.
It would prevent me supporting him again were I am American voter.
Any policy that risks and loses lives unnecessarily deserves contempt only.
However, unlike Trump and his divisively hateful ideas, Biden still is not in Trump's league of being unsavoury.
"That's my view, rightly or wrongly of him, formed from my own observations and listening to his inane rantings.
If others were fooled by him, I certainly wasn't.
Nor ever will be".
That's a bit cheeky to say if you ain't sure whether you are right or wrong!
joeysteele
24-08-2021, 06:30 PM
"That's my view, rightly or wrongly of him, formed from my own observations and listening to his inane rantings.
If others were fooled by him, I certainly wasn't.
Nor ever will be".
That's a bit cheeky to say if you ain't sure whether you are right or wrong!
You know.
I do wonder why I even bother posting on here when other members jump in to nitpick.
I stated my opinion.
My judgements of Trump.
To me mine are 100% right.
HOWEVER I can't help it if others think it wrong.
Hence why I included rightly or wrongly.
Anyway.
I'm off this thread as I'm sick to the back teeth of petty nitpicking from you for one, on what I post as my OWN opinion.
No wonder members are leaving.
.
trump is an uncaring, corrupt, narcissist. Biden has plenty faults, i don't think anyone has said differently on here, ever, and his handling of Afghanistan has been terrible, but, personally, i would still prefer biden over trump any day
arista
24-08-2021, 06:38 PM
The German USA Base
is now full of Afghan children
happy and playing football.
Video just on CNN HD
Cherie
24-08-2021, 06:41 PM
They have arrested him
Good news
arista
24-08-2021, 06:44 PM
AirBNB to Host 20,000
Refugees Free of charge
Globally.
CNN HD Live
Tom4784
24-08-2021, 06:50 PM
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You know.
I do wonder why I even bother posting on here when other members jump in to nitpick.
I stated my opinion.
My judgements of Trump.
To me mine are 100% right.
HOWEVER I can't help it if others think it wrong.
Hence why I included rightly or wrongly.
Anyway.
I'm off this thread as I'm sick to the back teeth of petty nitpicking from you for one, on what I post as my OWN opinion.
No wonder members are leaving.
.
Lol.welcome to.my world joey.
Dont flounce after one post, not now I've shown you how it feels to be me:shrug:
Nah, he was a lunatic that turned on people quicker than a crazed snake, kinda like his followers, but his followers were even dumber for believing him despite all the evidence saying otherwise.
I pity you, you really have drunk the kool-aid and now you don't know what direction is up. Everyone that doesn't like Trump apparently doesn't like him because they were told to (by who? Not thought that far ahead yet? Q hasn't given you the answers yet?), yet Trump could tell you that the sky was purple with yellow polka dots and you'd swear it to be the truth. After all, you believe an election was stolen because he said so, and despite no evidence being found months later, you still believe that to be true because Trump told you to.
I do hope you get deprogrammed sooner rather than later.Fascinating theory.
arista
24-08-2021, 07:12 PM
WION HD
showed the Turkey has a New Massive High Long Wall
they have put up.
So no Afghans can enter their nation
from their side.
Turkey is Overloaded with Syrian Refugees.
.Turkey is Overloaded with Syrian Refugees.
Sounds like a massive excuse of biblical proportions to me.
More like a deliberate tightening of the noose to the necks of those trying to flee.
Lisa Nandy is making a bigger fool of herself every day. She simply has no idea how the world works
Oliver_W
24-08-2021, 07:49 PM
Lisa Nandy is making a bigger fool of herself every day. She simply has no idea how the world works
Not everyone follows every piece of news every day ...
What has she said?
Not everyone follows every piece of news every day ...
What has she said?
Labour’s shadow foreign secretary has blasted Boris Johnson following his failure to persuade Joe Biden to extend the presence of US troops at Kabul airport.
Speaking on BBC News, Lisa Nandy said that today was a “really, really shameful moment for the United Kingdom”.
arista
24-08-2021, 08:12 PM
President Biden is Live after 9:30PM UK time
Washington DC.
SkyNewsHD / CNN HD
joeysteele
24-08-2021, 08:41 PM
Lol.welcome to.my world joey.
Dont flounce after one post, not now I've shown you how it feels to be me:shrug:
I rarely if ever even engage with you now.
It's you who pounced in again to nitpick at my post.
Which wasn't even in any shape or form anything to do with you anyhow.
So I'll happily flounce off this thread to avoid it happening again.
I won't respond again.
arista
24-08-2021, 09:03 PM
Biden is Now Live
SkyNewsHD and CNN HD
not BBC
arista
24-08-2021, 09:17 PM
Biden Walked Off
No Questions
uk troops will leave afghanistan within the next 24-36 hours defence sources are saying
biden walked off
no questions1430281863294226435
arista
24-08-2021, 10:56 PM
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arista
24-08-2021, 10:57 PM
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arista
24-08-2021, 10:57 PM
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arista
24-08-2021, 10:58 PM
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arista
24-08-2021, 10:59 PM
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arista
24-08-2021, 11:00 PM
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arista
24-08-2021, 11:01 PM
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arista
24-08-2021, 11:06 PM
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arista
25-08-2021, 02:15 AM
On the 16th of August, Kabul Airport
the public got onto the Wings of the Massive USA plane
over 5 died, falling to the ground.
That must never happen again.
arista
25-08-2021, 02:48 AM
UK troops will leave Afghanistan within the next 24-36 hours defence sources are saying
Yes they have no choice
Once USA start leaving, we have to go
Biden did not take Any Questions
as he knew,
he could not answer:
what will happen to those left behind.
I would say go via the Pakistan route out
I rarely if ever even engage with you now.
It's you who pounced in again to nitpick at my post.
Which wasn't even in any shape or form anything to do with you anyhow.
So I'll happily flounce off this thread to avoid it happening again.
I won't respond again.
I will Comment on what I see wether you like it or not. So you can stop trying to make me out to be the bad guy with your dramatic words.
Nicky91
25-08-2021, 08:34 AM
well then loud and clear language from Biden, then we'll just have to hurry up with the evacuations
but criticism for Biden alone isn't fair, since Trump started this whole evacuations idea, something most afghans are pissed about the US abandoning them
France is set to end its evacuations from Kabul airport from Thursday after the US refused to extend a deadline of 31 August to withdraws its troops from Afghanistan.
The French Minister for European Affairs, Clément Beaune, warned on Wednesday that it was "very probable" that the French operations would end the following day.
i bet the taliban are bricking it in case ISIS-K attack the airport and america reverse their decision to leave. All it would take is 1 rocket at a departing plane
Oliver_W
25-08-2021, 08:45 AM
well then loud and clear language from Biden, then we'll just have to hurry up with the evacuations
but criticism for Biden alone isn't fair, since Trump started this whole evacuations idea, something most afghans are pissed about the US abandoning them
It's totally fair. Biden's the one who rushed it through, isn't budging on the dates, refuses to take questions, and who decided to take a little holiday to Delaware while all this is going on.
arista
25-08-2021, 09:09 AM
CNN HD Live
is reporting the Taliban is letting Afghans go into the Airport
Now Biden, has agreed to get out on the 31st
arista
25-08-2021, 09:11 AM
France is set to end its evacuations from Kabul airport from Thursday after the US refused to extend a deadline of 31 August to withdraws its troops from Afghanistan.
The French Minister for European Affairs, Clément Beaune, warned on Wednesday that it was "very probable" that the French operations would end the following day.
I bet the Taliban are bricking it in case ISIS-K attack the airport and America reverse their decision to leave. All it would take is 1 rocket at a departing plane
Yes they could be wired up to a bomb
ISIS-K even worse.
joeysteele
25-08-2021, 09:30 AM
Posted a post in the wrong section.
My apologies.
Deleted.
Trump fulfilled the will of his people and started the pull out, yet many are slating him for it, the same people who think we should have never entered afgahnistan to begin with.
arista
25-08-2021, 09:36 AM
Posted a post in the wrong section.
My apologies.
Deleted.
Its easy done when you are busy
arista
25-08-2021, 09:44 AM
Trump fulfilled the will of his people and started the pull out, yet many are slating him for it, the same people who think we should have never entered Afghanistan to begin with.
Yes he set the May 2021 Date to get out
Biden changed the date to the 11 Sept 2021
arista
25-08-2021, 11:07 AM
Its true
many USA & UK Women Group's spent 20 years Helping/Educating Women in
Afghanistan.
But Now all that has Gone.
The New 12 Men Taliban Council
is ready to run their Nation
One zone still for the Taliban Fighters to take over
Panjshir Valley
they are now blocking them in.
Oliver_W
25-08-2021, 11:46 AM
Trump fulfilled the will of his people and started the pull out, yet many are slating him for it, the same people who think we should have never entered afgahnistan to begin with.
Ehhhh.
That sort of thing should be an "all or nothing" approach. Those countries' "governments" are frankly no better for the civilians than the Taliban tbh, so if western countries want to intervene at all, it should be to completely take over and implement western laws. A military intervention which still allows terrorist groups to flourish and awful regimes to treat their people like crap achieves nothing, especially when a crappy president just pulls the rug out with no real planning.
Tom4784
25-08-2021, 01:14 PM
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user104658
25-08-2021, 01:48 PM
Biden's inflexibility is just another one of his failures. He's too busy trying to tickle the balls of the right wing when they'll hate him regardless to do the right thing by the afghan people who risked everything to help the US and UK's efforts.
I don't think it's just that with Biden, he specifically clashed with Obama over what to do in Afghanistan.
Obama wanted to be even more involved in Afghanistan, pile on a much larger occupying force and properly eliminate groups that would be a threat on withdrawal, and properly put systems in place that would remain robust when they did finally leave Afghanistan.
Biden wanted minimal involvement and a full withdrawal ASAP.
In fact Biden is one of the main reasons Obama didn't get his way with increased presence.
So I don't think his personal position on Afghanistan is just trying to appeal to the right... his previous politics suggest that it's something he's been in support of for over a decade.
Which on the other hand also puts to bed the "it's because he's old and senile and making terrible errors" part of the argument - he held the same overall position when he was Veep, a spring chicken in his mid 60's.
biden is the president, he has to take responsibility, even though he tried to blame anyone else he could. I think that for me is the worst trait. How can anyone trust him again after he pointed the finger at everyone but himself
In years gone by, the americans wouldnt have given the taliban the time of day, now they are actively sucking up to them
arista
25-08-2021, 02:39 PM
Pentagon Briefing Live
again
SkyNewsHD and CNN HD
Claiming 88,000
have left the nation.
Many Flights arrive in Germany, first.
I wonder how many with Fake papers?
arista
25-08-2021, 03:00 PM
5,400 USA troops still on the ground
in Afghanistan
Pentagon Confirm.
arista
25-08-2021, 03:27 PM
[Afghanistan and India have suspected that ISIL-K is a breakaway
faction of the Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan]
So what the President Biden
called ISIS-K new threat in Kabul Airport Zone
started from Pakistan.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant_%E2%80%93_Kho rasan_Province
arista
25-08-2021, 03:45 PM
From ITV1HD Lunch News
The Taliban has allowed UNICEF Charity
to carry with their good help.
arista
25-08-2021, 03:53 PM
CNN HD Live
report Banks are slowly opening again in Kabul.
arista
25-08-2021, 05:34 PM
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arista
25-08-2021, 05:50 PM
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arista
26-08-2021, 03:47 AM
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arista
26-08-2021, 03:49 AM
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arista
26-08-2021, 03:50 AM
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arista
26-08-2021, 03:56 AM
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arista
26-08-2021, 03:57 AM
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arista
26-08-2021, 07:44 AM
The minister (Armed Forces Minister James Heappey )
going on all Media
is saying avoid the Airport
as Issis-K threat is there.
Go to Borders
Pakistan has closed one entrance
But the minister says the other nations like
Tajikistan
https://news.sky.com/story/afghanistan-highly-credible-imminent-lethal-attack-could-occur-at-kabul-airport-in-matter-of-hours-minister-says-12390855
The Foreign Office last night issued new guidance telling anyone near the airport to "move away to a safe location and await further advice".
James Heappey earlier told the BBC: "There is now very, very credible reporting of an imminent attack."
He later told us: "The credibility of the reporting has now reached the stage where we believe that there is a very imminent, highly lethal attack possible within Kabul."
Asked by Sky News whether an attack could occur in the coming few hours, Mr Heappey replied: "Yes."
Stressing the "severe" nature of the threat, he told the BBC that it had created an "extraordinarily challenging situation, both on the ground and as a set of decisions to be taken in Whitehall".
Cherie
26-08-2021, 11:22 AM
The Foreign Office last night issued new guidance telling anyone near the airport to "move away to a safe location and await further advice".
James Heappey earlier told the BBC: "There is now very, very credible reporting of an imminent attack."
He later told us: "The credibility of the reporting has now reached the stage where we believe that there is a very imminent, highly lethal attack possible within Kabul."
Asked by Sky News whether an attack could occur in the coming few hours, Mr Heappey replied: "Yes."
Stressing the "severe" nature of the threat, he told the BBC that it had created an "extraordinarily challenging situation, both on the ground and as a set of decisions to be taken in Whitehall".
mmm convenient?
arista
26-08-2021, 11:29 AM
USA has stated over 95,000
have been airlifted out.
arista
26-08-2021, 12:07 PM
TRTworldHD Live in Kabul
A reporter tells the Truth
"Fake Online" messages
say all can leave at the Kabul airport.
Nicky91
26-08-2021, 12:36 PM
today is the last day of evacuations
because we cannot pull everyone out before August 31st, so everyone left behind needs to take care of themselves to get out of afghanistan somehow
arista
26-08-2021, 01:50 PM
A Bomb has gone off Outside the Kabul Airport
Confirmed
https://news.sky.com/story/first-us-troops-leave-kabul-amid-increasing-risk-as-uk-working-to-keep-an-airport-open-after-deadline-afghanistan-latest-12385846
arista
26-08-2021, 01:56 PM
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mmm convenient?
bomb just gone off outside airport
arista
26-08-2021, 01:58 PM
Afghans injured.
How many dead soon to find out
arista
26-08-2021, 01:59 PM
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arista
26-08-2021, 02:02 PM
BBC Reporter in Kabul says a Suicide
Bomber blew himself up near the entrance
Ninastar
26-08-2021, 02:07 PM
Ugh, so it begins. Rip to those killed. Hopefully it isn’t too many
arista
26-08-2021, 02:10 PM
A Plane has just taken off.
Thats some good news - all those were already inside the Airport wall
SkyNewsHD Live
arista
26-08-2021, 02:13 PM
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arista
26-08-2021, 02:18 PM
Another Report
Some US Troops
Soldiers gravely injured
The Pentagon has delayed the Live Meeting.
WION HD reports 15 injured
arista
26-08-2021, 02:24 PM
TRTworldHD Live Ch516 SkyHD
Reporter Live in Kabul
Also a Gunman as well
at least 10 are dead
It was not a Taliban Controlled gate
So much more info on TRT and WION
than any of our news
Denver
26-08-2021, 02:28 PM
This is what happened when you decided to completely pull out of the area after Trump decided to release thousands of talkban members
arista
26-08-2021, 02:30 PM
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Afghan journalist Bilal Sarwary - who was evacuated from the country a few days ago - says that the explosion at Kabul airport occurred in a sewage canal where Afghan refugees were having their visa documents vetted.
He reports that a suicide bomber detonated his explosives in the crowd of people before a second attacker started opening fire.
arista
26-08-2021, 02:34 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9uRCc0VoAkCFtm?format=jpg&name=small
arista
26-08-2021, 02:36 PM
Afghan journalist Bilal Sarwary - who was evacuated from the country a few days ago - says that the explosion at Kabul airport occurred in a sewage canal where Afghan refugees were having their visa documents vetted.
He reports that a suicide bomber detonated his explosives in the crowd of people before a second attacker started opening fire.
Yes
but Further back at Abbey Gate (No Taliban there)
And one Shooter (hand gun) - they must have killed him
arista
26-08-2021, 02:37 PM
Reuters : at least 13 killed
Children among the dead
The was 2 Bombers
A Taliban official has said that at least 11 people have been killed in the attack on Kabul airport.
The official said the number included women and children and that a number of Taliban guards had also been wounded.
There is no confirmation.
arista
26-08-2021, 02:40 PM
3 USA Marines Injured
CNN HD Live
Now Dark in Kabul
It's after 7PM.
They are going to hold back the Pentagon Briefing
until they have more info.
arista
26-08-2021, 02:48 PM
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arista
26-08-2021, 02:52 PM
Johnson PM Holding another
Cobra Meeting.
arista
26-08-2021, 02:58 PM
13 Killed
Also Confirmed on SkyNewsHD
arista
26-08-2021, 03:02 PM
The 2nd Bomber closer to the Baron Hotel near the Abbey Gate
SkyNewsHD stated
Cherie
26-08-2021, 03:03 PM
bomb just gone off outside airport
Their intelligence is red hot now...what happened when Kabul fell
Just awful
Stuart Ramsay is in Doha...so he is out
arista
26-08-2021, 03:06 PM
Their intelligence is red hot now...what happened when Kabul fell
Just awful
Stuart Ramsay is in Doha...so he is out
Yes I am glad he is there
such a Great Live Reporter for SkyNewsHD
arista
26-08-2021, 03:08 PM
BBCnewsHD reports over 30 injured
and sadly 6 Died on the way to the Hospital
dont think you should link that tweet arista its too graphic
arista
26-08-2021, 03:28 PM
dont think you should link that tweet arista its too graphic
OK I will Delete it.
Crimson Dynamo
26-08-2021, 03:34 PM
dont think you should link that tweet arista its too graphic
Its not that graphic and no one needs to click it
i said earlier in the thread, will this be the turning point, because this is just a taster of how it will be with a terrorist country. Will Biden do an about turn
arista
26-08-2021, 03:41 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9uMeiJVEAceqes?format=jpg&name=small
The Location of the Gate attacked
the 2nd bomber was closer to Baron Hotel
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9uknoUVEAQanMC?format=jpg&name=small
arista
26-08-2021, 03:47 PM
Over 70 Injured.
So far, 13 confirmed dead
arista
26-08-2021, 03:56 PM
If any USA troops Die
Biden will be in trouble
The Slim Reaper
26-08-2021, 04:07 PM
Terror attacks in Afghanistan isn't anything new, because they've been fighting terrorists. In 2019 alone there were just under 2000, which was the highest total for a decade.
arista
26-08-2021, 04:13 PM
Terror attacks in Afghanistan isn't anything new, because they've been fighting terrorists. In 2019 alone there were just under 2000, which was the highest total for a decade.
Of course
but 3 USA Marines are now injured
we do not know how bad.
there were no uk service personnel injured
edit: Boris has said some american soldiers have died
arista
26-08-2021, 05:03 PM
there were no UK service personnel injured
Yes we got lucky
arista
26-08-2021, 05:06 PM
4 USA Marines Deaths now Reported
3 Marines are injured
SkyNewsHD/
https://www.wsj.com/articles/afghanistan-kabul-airport-explosion-11629976397
https://www.news18.com/news/world/afghanistan-taliban-news-live-updates-map-joe-biden-kabul-airport-embassy-evisa-population-amrullah-saleh-ghani-4128308.html
Ninastar
26-08-2021, 05:50 PM
Infuriating.
Ninastar
26-08-2021, 05:57 PM
The terror attacked started happening more frequently as we (all countries who were part of the war) started to leave the country. People should have been paying attention to how these attacks have been steadily increasing since ‘ending the war on terror’
Removing all soldiers, troops, intelligence etc too early has completely ****ed everything up. And not even just in Afghanistan, there were RAF bases closed all over the world.
I feel like this proves that we need these places open now more than ever. And that they should never have been shut down/downsized in the first place
But I think it’s too late and too much damage has been done
Crimson Dynamo
26-08-2021, 06:09 PM
will Biden survive?
arista
26-08-2021, 06:09 PM
Warning Graphic Video Ch4News
https://twitter.com/Channel4News/status/1430955142598246404
arista
26-08-2021, 06:10 PM
will Biden survive?
4 Dead USA Marines
Does not look good.
New Reports say 10 USA Marines have Died?
the problem they have is that there will likely be more and more attacks, and as they withdraw the troops, they get even more vulnerable. The alternative is to flood it with more troops and secure a bigger area
arista
26-08-2021, 06:20 PM
Update
Around 60 Killed
140wounded
arista
26-08-2021, 06:29 PM
Reuters reporting 12 USA Marines have Died
Denver
26-08-2021, 06:44 PM
It seems that its an ISIS K attack on the Taliban more then the US Marines either way it is tragic
Reuters reporting 10 USA Marines have Died
it's officially 12 americans now
arista
26-08-2021, 07:03 PM
Pentagon Meeting on Now
Live.
reports coming in of another explosion
Cherie
26-08-2021, 08:43 PM
It seems that its an ISIS K attack on the Taliban more then the US Marines either way it is tragic
It seems the bomber detonated while being searched by US military before entry into the airport...
if it was an attack on the taliban, it didnt need to be at the airport
arista
26-08-2021, 08:55 PM
President Biden is Going Live
soon.
arista
26-08-2021, 09:26 PM
Biden is Live
arista
26-08-2021, 09:36 PM
He is taking Questions
He says he will hunt down ISIS-K
arista
26-08-2021, 09:53 PM
Now Concluded
arista
27-08-2021, 12:05 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/4131/production/_120298661_1001ic-dtndt-1-270821-a001c-dt.png
arista
27-08-2021, 12:09 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/457D/production/_120298771_i-newspaper_page1_8575164.png
arista
27-08-2021, 12:11 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/152A1/production/_120298668_thesunfrontpage27.08.2021.png
arista
27-08-2021, 12:12 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/E1BD/production/_120298775_mirrorfront27aug.png
arista
27-08-2021, 12:13 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/6C8D/production/_120298772_page1.png
arista
27-08-2021, 12:14 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/BAAD/production/_120298774_ex27p01.png
arista
27-08-2021, 12:15 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/939D/production/_120298773_thetimes270821pg1.png
arista
27-08-2021, 01:49 AM
The 2 Evil Issis-K
that walked in
to the USA Gate, had planned their attack.
It seems easy to get close to USA troops
and Afghans.
Only one day to go now.
As the Troops will take 3 days or more to leave.
arista
27-08-2021, 05:45 AM
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arista
27-08-2021, 06:11 AM
The Death toll is around 90 now.
With 13 of them USA Service members
(one died overnight)
arista
27-08-2021, 06:19 AM
MOD is closing
the Baron Hotel Facilities
UK Armed Forces have now entered the final stages
of the evacuation of the Airport.
arista
27-08-2021, 06:57 AM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/08/27/03/47149253-9931249-image-a-10_1630032253994.jpg
arista
27-08-2021, 07:01 AM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/08/27/02/47145307-9931249-ISIS_has_claimed_responsibility_for_Thursday_s_seq uence_of_attac-a-10_1630028565709.jpg
[ISIS-K has claimed responsibility for Thursday's
sequence of attacks.
A fighter is shown in a grab from the
group's Telegram account,
where they are allowed to operate]
Nicky91
27-08-2021, 07:29 AM
https://nltimes.nl/2021/08/27/attacks-kabul-airport-terrible-tragedy-dutch-pm-says
response from Netherlands on attacks
Prime Minister Mark Rutte called attacks on the airport in Kabul "horrific" and a "terrible tragedy", responding on Twitter. Two explosions at the airport in the Afghan capital left over 100 people killed. No Dutch diplomats or soldiers were among the victims, the Ministry of Defense confirmed.
"Horrific reports of the attacks at the airport in Kabul. Many killed and injured in a place where people were seeking safety. A terrible tragedy. My thoughts go out to the victims and their families," Rutte tweeted.
At least 60 Afghan citizens, 13 American soldiers, and 28 Taliban fighters were killed in the attacks, NU.nl reports Hundreds were injured, including 18 American soldiers. According to American officials, terrorist organization ISKP committed the attack.
Minister Sigrid Kaag of Foreign Affairs also responded on Twitter. "Outraged by cowardly acts of terror in Kabul. Our deepest sympathies go out to those who lost loved ones, including the families of US military personnel," she said. "They courageously secured the airport to enable safe evacuation of so many seeking refuge. In doing so these honorable men paid the ultimate price."
The Netherlands performed its last evacuation flight from Kabul a short time before the attacks on Thursday. The Dutch military evacuated more than 2,500 people from Afghanistan in the past week, including more than 1,600 people with the Netherlands as their destination.
"It is terrible to have to leave Afghanistan after 20 years in this way," Kaag said after the last flight departed. "It is with a heavy heart that the embassy team and the military have left with the last Dutch flight."
.
Oliver_W
27-08-2021, 07:45 AM
I don't think it's just that with Biden, he specifically clashed with Obama over what to do in Afghanistan.
Obama wanted to be even more involved in Afghanistan, pile on a much larger occupying force and properly eliminate groups that would be a threat on withdrawal, and properly put systems in place that would remain robust when they did finally leave Afghanistan.
Biden wanted minimal involvement and a full withdrawal ASAP.
In fact Biden is one of the main reasons Obama didn't get his way with increased presence.
So I don't think his personal position on Afghanistan is just trying to appeal to the right... his previous politics suggest that it's something he's been in support of for over a decade.
Which on the other hand also puts to bed the "it's because he's old and senile and making terrible errors" part of the argument - he held the same overall position when he was Veep, a spring chicken in his mid 60's.
Oh wow, the whole thing really is Biden's fault - for stopping Obama from keeping the situation reaching that point, for not vetoing Trump's stupid plan, and then to carry it out in the stupidest way possible...
user104658
27-08-2021, 08:12 AM
Oh wow, the whole thing really is Biden's fault - for stopping Obama from keeping the situation reaching that point, for not vetoing Trump's stupid plan, and then to carry it out in the stupidest way possible...
I mean the WHOLE thing still goes back much further, to the late 70's and the Russian occupation at least, but tbh let's face it more or less forever. The west has been ****ing around in the Middle East since the Crusades :umm2:.
[edit] I feel like this is wide open for a "Biden was probably around back then" joke ... so I'm just gonna make it myself.
Biden was probably around back then :joker:.
Oliver_W
27-08-2021, 08:24 AM
The west has been ****ing around in the Middle East since the Crusades :umm2:
To be fair, the Crusades helped rescue Spain from islamic rule ... so it could be argued they didn't go far enough :joker:
[edit] I feel like this is wide open for a "Biden was probably around back then" joke ... so I'm just gonna make it myself.
Biden was probably around back then :joker:.
:joker::joker:
user104658
27-08-2021, 08:46 AM
To be fair, the Crusades helped rescue Spain from islamic rule ... so it could be argued they didn't go far enough :joker:
This gets complicated though - Christianity was no less strict or brutal than Islam at the time (actually it was probably far worse)... and you could make an argument that the main reason Islam has failed to modernise fully across the world (modern/moderate Islam does exist, obviously) in the way other religions have is .. ... because the West have been constantly ****ing about with the Middle East forever.
Oliver_W
27-08-2021, 08:52 AM
This gets complicated though - Christianity was no less strict or brutal than Islam at the time (actually it was probably far worse)... and you could make an argument that the main reason Islam has failed to modernise fully across the world (modern/moderate Islam does exist, obviously) in the way other religions have is .. ... because the West have been constantly ****ing about with the Middle East forever.
But we could also say that if they were part of the Christian "world" since the time of the Crusades, they might have modernised with the rest if us,,,
arista
27-08-2021, 09:00 AM
95 Dead Total now
I guess it will go up, again,
as more in the Hospital are near death.
arista
27-08-2021, 09:03 AM
The UK have Closed down, Kabul
any more getting in
the final amount is waiting for planes inside the Airport.
user104658
27-08-2021, 09:10 AM
But we could also say that if they were part of the Christian "world" since the time of the Crusades, they might have modernised with the rest if us,,,
Nah, it was never about the specifics of the religion, that's a red herring, all of the "holy books" are full of brutal bull****. The region would still have had the same issues, they'd just have issues with radical Christian extremists instead of Islamic ones. Same ghosts in the sky at the end of the day. The issue has always been how they're used to indoctrinate and control, and it doesn't really matter which book they use to do that. The people actually doing the indoctrinating don't believe a word of it anyway.
And we still think Biden was better choice than Trump!!
Unbelievable.
arista
27-08-2021, 09:20 AM
And we still think Biden was better choice than Trump!!
Unbelievable.
The worse about Biden
he left Helicopters, planes, Armed trucks
and so many weapons they can sell to China
or Pakistan
to get Hard Cash
arista
27-08-2021, 09:24 AM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/08/27/05/47158013-9931249-In_a_news_conference_on_Thursday_President_Joe_Bid en_vowed_to_hu-a-5_1630038427277.jpg
Oliver_W
27-08-2021, 09:29 AM
Nah, it was never about the specifics of the religion, that's a red herring, all of the "holy books" are full of brutal bull****. The region would still have had the same issues, they'd just have issues with radical Christian extremists instead of Islamic ones. Same ghosts in the sky at the end of the day. The issue has always been how they're used to indoctrinate and control, and it doesn't really matter which book they use to do that. The people actually doing the indoctrinating don't believe a word of it anyway.
Then why is it an almost exclusively islamic issue now?
Cherie
27-08-2021, 09:33 AM
This has been a debacle of momentous proportions, those people who helped that are being left behind, just no words
arista
27-08-2021, 09:38 AM
Everyone on TV & Radio is saying how will
Biden get revenge
By Air Bombs
Like they do all over the World
user104658
27-08-2021, 09:53 AM
Then why is it an almost exclusively islamic issue now?
Because it's an almost exclusively regional issue and that region's population is Muslim. The issues are perpetual war, violence and poverty and political ideologies - but it's hard to weaponise people (in general) without throwing a little dogma into the mix. We're seeing all sorts of cookie-cutter extremist values and rhetoric springing up these days and most of the dogma fuelling it isn't even "mystical" in nature, but nonetheless the mechanisms are all too familiar and exactly the same as in religious extremism.
Essentially... the population was religious and the religion happened to be Islam, and if people already have a head full of ideas that require a bucket and a half of cognitive dissonance and a distinct lack of critical thinking, you can use those ideas as footholds for other dogma, and tailor that dogma in ways that benefit [insert power/political goal here].
Heck... western political entities are soft-weaponising all sorts of nonsensical non-religious-dogma these days for disingenuous political reasons.
Afghanistan is tribal. That over rides any religious affiliation. Throughout the ages the various tribes have fought and they always will. That is the countries basic problem. The taliban can't control the country because there will always be another tribe that comes along to fight back. America and Russia have tried, and even with all the tech, they can't stop another tribe appearing. The taliban itself is made up of various tribes that will all revert to type as soon as the big invader is gone. The religion aspect is merely a method for one tribe to subjugate another
arista
27-08-2021, 10:07 AM
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Oliver_W
27-08-2021, 10:14 AM
Because it's an almost exclusively regional issue and that region's population is Muslim.
So if they were Christian when the Renaissance happened, do you think they'd be okay now?
Do you think there will be a case of the refugees we take in having to step over a homeless ex soldier ,who fought in afgahnistan, as they are being led into a hotel?
Oliver_W
27-08-2021, 10:44 AM
Do you think there will be a case of the refugees we take in having to step over a homeless ex soldier ,who fought in afgahnistan, as they are being led into a hotel?
With the amount of homeless vets being left on the streets, and migrants being put up by the government, I'd say it's a given.
arista
27-08-2021, 10:50 AM
Do you think there will be a case of the refugees we take in having to step over a homeless ex soldier ,who fought in Afghanistan, as they are being led into a hotel?
Yes could happen
user104658
27-08-2021, 11:13 AM
Do you think there will be a case of the refugees we take in having to step over a homeless ex soldier ,who fought in afgahnistan, as they are being led into a hotel?
With the amount of homeless vets being left on the streets, and migrants being put up by the government, I'd say it's a given.
Yes could happen
It's a moot and disingenuous point - army veterans aren't homeless "because there aren't houses for them" they are homeless because they have PTSD, associated mental health problems, and often addictions due to attempts at self-medicating that trauma.
That's not at all to say that ex-soldiers aren't horribly failed, but it's a failure of ongoing practical and mental health support for departing soldiers specifically, not because "refugees took all the houses".
Oliver_W
27-08-2021, 11:19 AM
It's a moot and disingenuous point - army veterans aren't homeless "because there aren't houses for them" they are homeless because they have PTSD, associated mental health problems, and often addictions due to attempts at self-medicating that trauma.
That's not at all to say that ex-soldiers aren't horribly failed, but it's a failure of ongoing practical and mental health support for departing soldiers specifically, not because "refugees took all the houses".
Oh I wasn't proportioning any blame, I was simply saying it's a likely scenario due to the way things are - who or what ever is at fault.
You could say they are homeless because they have been left behind.
arista
27-08-2021, 11:49 AM
You could say they are homeless because they have been left behind.
Yes Many are on the Streets.
But these Afghans
are getting Flats soon.
It will be on Live TV & Radio Debates the next few weeks
arista
27-08-2021, 12:01 PM
The Turkish President will meet the Taliban
soon
Some Reports saying let the Turkish run the Airport
after the 31st
As flights from Pakistan & China & Turkey
are ready to Trade.
Nicky91
27-08-2021, 12:19 PM
dutch government had to say no to more than 200 people who were heading to Kabul airport for a evacuation flight
arista
27-08-2021, 12:52 PM
Dutch government had to say no to more than 200 people who were heading to Kabul airport for an evacuation flight
Yes last chance
Ninastar
27-08-2021, 01:07 PM
Homeless vets and refugees both need our support because they both were affected by choices we made. They both need cared for. I don’t think you can compare it really
The only thing that I get concerned about is terrorists pretending to be refugees just to infiltrate different places and be the cause of future attacks
Tom4784
27-08-2021, 01:18 PM
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Tom4784
27-08-2021, 01:22 PM
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Nicky91
27-08-2021, 01:24 PM
Yes last chance
no, the last flight had landed today over here, 87 dutch people onboard
possibly now a few diplomats and military personnel who have helped with evacuation to bring them home (118 people who want to evacuate had yesterday made it to airport just in time so some of those remaining can get a ride alongside those diplomats and military)
but we stopped with evacuations yesterday, so those 200 people are too late
And we still think Biden was better choice than Trump!!
Unbelievable.
Not any more.
Ninastar
27-08-2021, 01:44 PM
I mean I get the whole ‘if we can take in and home people from a different country, why can’t we do that for our own’ argument… buuut I don’t think that homing refugees means that a homeless vet misses out lol. We haven’t helped them and we still won’t help them. Once someone in the uk becomes homeless, there is very little help and understanding there.
Two completely different situations tbh. Both terrible but I don’t think someone is automatically racist for bringing it up. Maybe just read the room or something, idk
user104658
27-08-2021, 01:44 PM
Biden was still a better choice than re-electing Trump.
Not least because this would 99.9% have happened under Trump anyway.
user104658
27-08-2021, 01:48 PM
I mean I get the whole ‘if we can take in and home people from a different country, why can’t we do that for our own’ argument… buuut I don’t think that homing refugees means that a homeless vet misses out lol. We haven’t helped them and we still won’t help them. Once someone in the uk becomes homeless, there is very little help and understanding there.
Two completely different situations tbh. Both terrible but I don’t think someone is automatically racist for bringing it up. Maybe just read the room or something, idk
The misunderstanding is that homeless veterans are homeless because there's no home available for them. They're homeless because they've been left with their mental health in an abysmal state, serious trauma, often substance abuse issues, and those thing mean they can't manage a normal home (keeping up with rent, bills, just general upkeep of a home). Even with benefits, the system is totally flawed in that if you let things slip it all falls apart. In fact for most street-homeless, it's support that's lacking, not housing.
Cherie
27-08-2021, 01:51 PM
Last Italian plane left Kabul now
Tom4784
27-08-2021, 02:08 PM
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27-08-2021, 02:10 PM
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Ninastar
27-08-2021, 02:20 PM
Not a trump fan at all, but tbh I don’t think this would have happened if he was still prez.
Still think he’s god awful tho
arista
27-08-2021, 02:20 PM
Biden was still a better choice than re-electing Trump.
Not least because this would 99.9% have happened under Trump anyway.
What if another Big Terrorist Attack
happens in USA?
arista
27-08-2021, 02:22 PM
All the UK reporters are leaving
just one older female for the BBC
who is staying in the inside Safe Airport zone.
Not a trump fan at all, but tbh I don’t think this would have happened if he was still prez.
Still think he’s god awful tho
Totally agree with all you said here.
arista
27-08-2021, 02:42 PM
[Afghanistan: Interpreters unable to escape describe
terror as they hide from the Taliban
One translator, who was injured in Thursday's terror attack
outside Kabul airport, tells Sky News he is certain
he will be killed by the Islamist group if found
after working with British companies.]
https://news.sky.com/story/afghanistan-interpreters-unable-to-escape-are-terrified-as-they-hide-from-the-taliban-12392033
USA CIA advises them to go Dark
CNN HD USA
Cherie
27-08-2021, 02:49 PM
The Swiss are done
arista
27-08-2021, 02:50 PM
Pentagon is Live
People who act like Trump would be the better choice would ironically have cheered him on if he did leave the afghan people to their fate. Their criticism comes from a place of tribalism rather than sense and the people of Afghanistan is just a tool to be used by them to make the opposition look worse.
Yeah, cos everyone who thinks Trump would have done better must all think exactly the same, eh? Such wild sweeping statements are the sign of a rigid, extremist outlook.
arista
27-08-2021, 03:01 PM
Pathetic BBC leaves the Live Pentagon briefing
SkyNewsHD
GBnewsHD
CNN HD
still have it
it depends what you mean by trump would have done better. If you mean the explosion yesterday, there is nothing he could have done differently. The americans got many people out the country, i dont think trump would have done better in that either
arista
27-08-2021, 03:39 PM
3 British Nationals one was a child
Died out of the 95 Total Deaths
Kabul Isis-K Attack
user104658
27-08-2021, 03:41 PM
Not a trump fan at all, but tbh I don’t think this would have happened if he was still prez.
Still think he’s god awful tho
The ball was rolling and the dodgy deal with the Taliban was made under Trump though... I wonder what people think would have been handled better? I'm not saying it couldn't have been, even with the ball rolling it could have been done with much more care and attention... I'm not saying someone couldn't have done better... but in what world do those words make people think "Trump"?
arista
27-08-2021, 03:55 PM
Yes But Trump was going to get all out
before his leaving in May
Cherie
27-08-2021, 04:19 PM
Watching the Pentagon, it feels almost movie like
user104658
27-08-2021, 04:20 PM
Yes But Trump was going to get all out
before his leaving in May
And he was going to give them all the ability to poop solid gold so they'd never need to worry about money again.
We have no idea who he would or wouldn't have managed to evacuate... he can SAY that he'd have got everyone out, but he says a lot of things.
im not defending biden because he has been dire, but trump spews out bollocks constantly as we have seen for the last 6 years.
He is keeping quiet about his lawyers being censored for lying in court
they are now saying that at least 170 were killed by the bomb
arista
27-08-2021, 05:09 PM
they are now saying that at least 170 were killed by the bomb
Keeps going up.
That includes the 2 British National and a child
And the 13 USA Marines and Service personnel
arista
27-08-2021, 05:15 PM
The Airport is ready to take planes
after USA /UK leave on Tuesday.
Canada said it will Fly in with Help and Food
Pakistan, China and Turkey can also fly in.
CNN HD USA
Well, considering Biden hasn't tried to stir up an insurrection at the capital yet, yes, he is still a better choice than Trump and always will be.Stir up an Inserection? What did he use, a spoon?
Biden was still a better choice than re-electing Trump.
Not least because this would 99.9% have happened under Trump anyway.Ha ha
It's telling that you have to say that.
You would have to be delusional to think that this means that Trump was the better candidate. Knowing Trump, he would have done the same thing but would have left all our Afghan allies to die since that would track well with his crazed fanbase.
People who think that Trump would have handled this better need to reacquaint themselves with reality, they truly do. This would have been worse under Trump, and there's four years of **** ups to prove it.Delusional? For preferring one Presidential candidate over another?
What word do you have for a person who think men can turn into women?
user104658
27-08-2021, 05:56 PM
Ha ha
It's telling that you have to say that.
:think: I'm not a US citizen so I didn't have a vote, so I didn't vote for anyone. Why do I "have to" say anything? Why do you keep ignoring the fact that Trump started the ball rolling on the Afghanistan withdrawal, also? I've noticed an awful lot of Trump supporters like to tell themselves that didn't happen, which is a bit bizarre :think:.
I've had plenty of criticism for Biden throughout this thread, but I think the withdrawal would have happened no matter who was in the White House :shrug:. Maybe it would have gone a bit better but there's no way to do it that wouldn't be messy, unless you're suggesting Trump wouldn't have gone ahead with withdrawing the troops at all, which he obviously would have because doing a U-turn on getting the troops out would have been unpopular with Republicans.
I think Biden is a **** President and FAR too old to still be working in politics at all (though so is Trump). Trump was a symbol of something worse, regardless of actions.
they are now saying that at least 170 were killed by the bomb
... and two injured !!
How bizarre ... usually it’s loads of injuries with fewer deaths ..
Maybe it was a massive bomb !?
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:think: I'm not a US citizen so I didn't have a vote, so I didn't vote for anyone. Why do I "have to" say anything? Why do you keep ignoring the fact that Trump started the ball rolling on the Afghanistan withdrawal, also? I've noticed an awful lot of Trump supporters like to tell themselves that didn't happen, which is a bit bizarre :think:.
I've had plenty of criticism for Biden throughout this thread, but I think the withdrawal would have happened no matter who was in the White House :shrug:. Maybe it would have gone a bit better but there's no way to do it that wouldn't be messy, unless you're suggesting Trump wouldn't have gone ahead with withdrawing the troops at all, which he obviously would have because doing a U-turn on getting the troops out would have been unpopular with Republicans.
I think Biden is a **** President and FAR too old to still be working in politics at all (though so is Trump). Trump was a symbol of something worse, regardless of actions."Orange man bad"
arista
27-08-2021, 11:57 PM
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27-08-2021, 11:59 PM
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28-08-2021, 12:00 AM
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28-08-2021, 12:01 AM
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28-08-2021, 12:04 AM
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28-08-2021, 12:04 AM
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arista
28-08-2021, 12:52 AM
On NewsnightHD BBC2
some Women who worked in the Afghan Government
Crying, they still want to go back?
Let's see how it changes first, after the 31st
although it will be harder as all reporters are moving to safer
nearby nations.
Taliban are getting Control
with their own 12 Men Council.
arista
28-08-2021, 02:13 AM
USA Military has Drone Attacked
ISIS -K planner.
Did not take long
Nangahar Province
CNN HD Live
arista
28-08-2021, 02:32 AM
[Captain Bill Urban, spokesman for US Central Command,
said the US military had conducted
a drone strike against an
Islamic State member in
Afghanistan's Nangahar Province.
The strike killed one person
and there were no known
civilian casualties, he said.]
https://news.sky.com/story/us-airstrike-targets-islamic-state-in-afghanistan-after-deadly-kabul-airport-attack-12392733
Tom4784
28-08-2021, 02:38 AM
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arista
28-08-2021, 04:13 AM
The Taliban have taken over a
small part of the Inside of the Airport.
Getting ready for Tuesday 31st 11:59PM
The final day for USA /UK.
Ref: WION HD / TRTworldHD/ CNN HD/ Al JazeeraHD /SkyNewsHD
USA Military has Drone Attacked
ISIS -K planner.
Did not take long
Nangahar Province
CNN HD Live
If biden says it, I'm.not believing it
.it will have been the rear end of a bus, a tree or a random bin out for pick up.
Old cartoon goofy has ****ed up massively. And eggs are being worn on chins.
And its bank holiday sunny
Pity lots of people have died though, biggest amount of usa troops since whenever.
Absolute tragedy.
No wonder trump wanted to stop this.
arista
28-08-2021, 04:28 AM
[Afghanistan is rich in minerals and precious stones,
much of it under-exploited as a result
of the years of conflict.
The mining industry in Afghanistan is
worth an estimated $1bn annually,
according to Afghan government officials.
Most of the extraction is small scale
and much of it is done illegally.]
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-46554097
Yes China is ready to take over some Mines
for CASH.
arista
28-08-2021, 04:30 AM
If biden says it, I'm.not believing it
.it will have been the rear end of a bus, a tree or a random bin out for pick up.
Old cartoon goofy has ****ed up massively. And eggs are being worn on chins.
And its bank holiday sunny
Pity lots of people have died though, biggest amount of usa troops since whenever.
Absolute tragedy.
No wonder trump wanted to stop this.
That USA Military Bomb Drone
Cost a Fortune
but Killed one ISIS -K planner /leader.
Biden was still a better choice than re-electing Trump.
Not least because this would 99.9% have happened under Trump anyway.
I strongly disagree with this wouldaboutary nonsense.
It sounds like an advertisement for the morons that wander about london singing "we are the 99 percent"
Trump would have stopped the movement up to Kabul, he would have got the citizens out before moving the troops.
Why?
Well, that simple. He would have listened to the people he knew were better equipped to judge the situation
Biden's an old man...people have died lately and have been commemorated for having a long life!!
Well old pervy, poncing a brain, biden....needs to do the honourable and stand down.
:wavey::wavey: he must **** off back to his cartoon world. ASAP.:fist:
[Afghanistan is rich in minerals and precious stones,
much of it under-exploited as a result
of the years of conflict.
The mining industry in Afghanistan is
worth an estimated $1bn annually,
according to Afghan government officials.
Most of the extraction is small scale
and much of it is done illegally.]
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/B7C0/production/_120304074_gettyimages-1160082.jpg
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-46554097
Yes China is ready to take over some Mines
for CASH.
What is that blue stuff?
Looks like something you'd shove in your cistern for a fancy flush.
That USA Military Bomb Drone
Cost a Fortune
but Killed one ISIS -K planner /leader.
A single martyr for thousands to avenge..
The mans a fool, he should have made all these threats before the "immenent" attack came.
I'm starting to think red flag.
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