Patel: ‘We aren’t anti-immigration but we cannot give a home to anyone

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://foxhole.news/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Priti-Patel.jpg

Home secretary Priti Patel delivered a key-note speech on immigration at a
conference on Monday, pledging to “fix” Britain’s “broken immigration
system”.

Ms Patel has spoken publicly this weekend about immigration reforms
announced in the Queen’s Speech a fortnight ago, calling out those who wish
to “sow dissent” by labelling reforms as “anti-immigration” and insisting the
government has a mandate from the electorate which is “impossible” to
ignore.

Speaking at a conference organised by the Bright Blue and British Future
think tanks, Ms Patel addressed current concerns about immigration and
unveiled her plans for future reforms.

“It was seen as entirely proper for the British people to express their wishes
at the ballot box on matters such as taxation, healthcare, education,
pensions, international relations, the environment and law and order, and
yet concerns about immigration, its impact upon communities, would in some
quarters be met with derision and scorn by parts of the political class,” the
home secretary claimed.

“Far too many politicians were indifferent to public opinion about this issue
and too many were happy to assert that even raising the topic of
immigration was racist.

“It has taken a referendum and a change of government for politicians to
recognise that by ignoring this issue, public frustration has also contributed
and led to the reframing of this debate.

“It is a fact that successive governments have failed to control immigration.
The problems and unhappiness became impossible for any politician to
continue to ignore.”

Ms Patel said that in the Brexit referendum, “the British people voted to take
back control of our borders.

“They then drove the message home again at the 2019 general election,” she
added, insisting that “political parties have a responsibility to face reality.

“People from every part of the world are here in the UK and are making
enormous contributions for society, culture, economy and individual lives.
We all cherish this and I want this to be part of our national life and our place
in the world.”

However, Ms Patel insisted that whilst sensible levels of immigration can
bring positives to British culture and economy, “it is sheer fantasy to say that
we can give a home to anyone who wants to come here” and pledged that
new reforms would ensure control over numbers and fairness across the
board.

https://foxhole.news/2021/05/24/patel-we-arent-anti-immigration-but-we-cannot-give-a-home-to-anyone-who-wants-to-come-here/

finally we are getting somewhere?

[Tom4784]

Who cares about what that evil hypocritical bully has to say. She wouldn't be where she was without immigration.

[Jake.]

Her parents came to the UK in the 60s but I guess she choses to ignore that

[GoldHeart]

Get lost Patel !

[Crimson Dynamo]

Legally

[joeysteele]

Who cares about what that evil hypocritical bully has to say. She wouldn't be where she was without immigration.


I can't stand this heartless woman.
How she's a Minister after all her deceit before is beyond me.

[DouglasS]

Big fan of Priti she is fearless

[Marsh.]

She looks knackered bless her.

[DouglasS]

She looks knackered bless her.

She’s working incredibly hard for this country :clap1: many sleepless nights for her people.

2021 has been a fantastic year for the government and how they have delt with things

[Marsh.]

many sleepless nights for her

Of that I have no doubt.

[arista]

Who cares about what that evil hypocritical bully has to say. She wouldn't be where she was without immigration.



Yes it worked for her Family

[Tom4784]

She looks knackered bless her.

Feeding off the misery of the poor and vulnerable isn't good for the skin, it seems.

[arista]

Her parents came to the UK in the 60s but I guess she choses to ignore that


Back then
we still had the British Empire

Her family were part of that

Way back then.



Nowdays, however,
illegals
are breaking into the UK in Dover
we can no longer afford them.

[arista]

Some of her Speech
went Live on BBCnewsHD

[Cherie]

it was seen as entirely proper for the British people to express their wishes
at the ballot box on matters such as taxation, healthcare, education,
pensions, international relations, the environment and law and order, and
yet concerns about immigration, its impact upon communities, would in some
quarters be met with derision and scorn by parts of the political class,” the
home secretary claimed.

In a nutshell

[Beso]

Look at everyone slagging of an immigrant.

[joeysteele]

Not all she says is wrong, I concede that.
However I'm not going to be lectured to or believe the word of a Woman who has been found to operate a bullying environment with her staff.

Who deliberately deceived and lied to the Nation, Parliament and her own then PM, Theresa May too.
Where she had to lose her previous trusted ministerial post.

The fact this PM brought such a person back as a Minister shows his terrible and incompetent judgement.
I'm surprised how many of my Con contacts have no time for Patel either.

Her past deceit and lies should have had her never in any post, where she professionally gets to make decisions on any other person's or peoples lives.
No way.
She's vile and I cannot trust or believe near all she says really.

An awful politician of the worst kind too.

[bots]

i think all we want is a fair and transparent immigration system. I don't get all the fuss. Those here illegally shouldn't be here, and should be deported. Simple

[arista]

The SNP Westminster Leader
was on BBC2HD Politics Live

He says the 2 illegals can stay in Scotland?

We will have to drive up overnight
and arrest them,
with English Armed Border Police.

[Tom4784]

Immigration is, and will always be, an issue akin to a bright light for the mothlike public. A easy way to appeal to the gullible and their biases by making out they should fear those below so they don't crane their necks looking above.

No, immigrants aren't coming for your jobs, they aren't draining the system, they aren't impacting your life. They're just a convenient target of hatred by a public that makes them easily led into voting against themselves.

[arista]

1397198487805206542

[bots]

far be it for me to defend Diane Abbot, but until the police come out with a clear statement on why this was not a targeted attack, Diane and others can speculate as much as they want

[Beso]

Immigration is, and will always be, an issue akin to a bright light for the mothlike public. A easy way to appeal to the gullible and their biases by making out they should fear those below so they don't crane their necks looking above.

No, immigrants aren't coming for your jobs, they aren't draining the system, they aren't impacting your life. They're just a convenient target of hatred by a public that makes them easily led into voting against themselves.

Fear those below?

Does that mean you see immigrants as lesser people dezzy?

[Crimson Dynamo]

far be it for me to defend Diane Abbot, but until the police come out with a clear statement on why this was not a targeted attack, Diane and others can speculate as much as they want

Politicians should be speculating on an ongoing murder investigation using social media to spread political conjecture

[thesheriff443]

We had 30 year old men being allowed to come into this country claiming they were 13 year old boys
We had serious criminals coming in committing crimes and being allowed to stay in this country

And why were they allowed to stay because Europe to us we had no choice

Well we got our vote and we to Europe to go f themselves

And they tryed every trick in the book to keep up in Europe under their control

[Cherie]

Fear those below?

Does that mean you see immigrants as lesser people dezzy?

strange terminology for sure

alot of immigrants are far more well educated than the homegrown!

as for overcrowding won't impact your life...the pandemic has exposed that myth nicely

[Nicky91]

very much agree with Patel, smart woman :clap1:

[Marsh.]

"I can't respond to what you actually said so I'll twist your words and respond to what you didn't say instead"

[UserSince2005]

The UK is not here to support the dregs of society.

[Tom4784]

Fear those below?

Does that mean you see immigrants as lesser people dezzy?

Nope, just painting a picture of how people who fear immigration sees immigrants, it should be obvious to snyone with an ounce of common sense and a basic level of reading comprehension.

Aww, look at the little squad, jumping to a wrong conclusion because they think it makes me look bad when it makes them look incompetent.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The UK’s broken asylum system has led to devastating outcomes. This was recently
highlighted by the case of Libyan refugee Khairi Saadallah, who was granted asylum
before carrying out his deadly June 2020 terrorist attack in the Berkshire town of
Reading.

Saadallah was not deported over previous criminal convictions – including racially-
aggravated assault – due to human rights concerns associated with his country of
origin. Indeed, it is believed that since 1998, around a quarter of foreign-national
Islamist terror offenders in the UK had either claimed or were granted asylum. This
represents a fundamental systems failure. We can no longer afford to ignore how liberal
asylum policies and failed integration outcomes have fed the beast of Islamist
extremism in our society.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/25/priti-patel-acknowledging-immigration-security-issue-will-music/

[Beso]

Nope, just painting a picture of how people who fear immigration sees immigrants, it should be obvious to snyone with an ounce of common sense and a basic level of reading comprehension.

Aww, look at the little squad, jumping to a wrong conclusion because they think it makes me look bad when it makes them look incompetent.

Nobody apart from you has used those words in a discussion about immigrants.


Dont you dare use me as an excuse for your racism.

[Marsh.]

Nobody apart from you has used those words in a discussion about immigrants.

Meanwhile, in the real world...

The UK is not here to support the dregs of society.

[Beso]

Meanwhile, in the real world...

What!


Expand.


In the real world what?

[Beso]

What is your real world?

[joeysteele]

Patel has very cruel looking eyes.
I always think that when she does interviews.

[Marsh.]

What!


Expand.


In the real world what?

Read.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Patel has very cruel looking eyes.
I always think that when she does interviews.

beautiful woman

firm but fair

strikes a chord with the GBP

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/imageserver/image/%2Fmethode%2Ftimes%2Fprod%2Fweb%2Fbin%2F7c61abc4-5a4d-11ea-ae40-36d0719ad0bc.jpg?crop=3232%2C1818%2C0%2C168&resize=1180

[joeysteele]

beautiful woman

firm but fair

strikes a chord with the GBP

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/imageserver/image/%2Fmethode%2Ftimes%2Fprod%2Fweb%2Fbin%2F7c61abc4-5a4d-11ea-ae40-36d0719ad0bc.jpg?crop=3232%2C1818%2C0%2C168&resize=1180

Even smiling she looks cold.
Nah, cruel eyes for me

[bots]

i'm really not a fan of hers. She seems to talk a lot, but her agenda doesnt seem to be acceptable even to most conservatives, so pretty much everything she proposes dies on the vine or is completely ineffective

So, on performance so far, i couldnt rate her higher than 2 stars

[Beso]

Patel has very cruel looking eyes.
I always think that when she does interviews.

She has the eyes of an ayatollah

[joeysteele]

She has the eyes of an ayatollah

Good grief parmnion, I think that's worse than what I said.

[arista]

"beautiful woman

firm but fair

strikes a chord with the GBP"



Yes LT.

[Tom4784]

Nobody apart from you has used those words in a discussion about immigrants.


Dont you dare use me as an excuse for your racism.

If you're gonna try and gaslight me, at least have the decency to not be terrible at it.

Calling me, of all people, a racist is ****ing dumb and it's nothing more than some terribly weak projection on your part. There's literally years of posts on this forum that proves I'm anything but a racist but by all means, paint me as a racist based on your own failure to grasp basic reading comprehension.

[Tom4784]

Read.

You're expecting too much, there.

[Beso]

If you're gonna try and gaslight me, at least have the decency to not be terrible at it.

Calling me, of all people, a racist is ****ing dumb and it's nothing more than some terribly weak projection on your part. There's literally years of posts on this forum that proves I'm anything but a racist but by all means, paint me as a racist based on your own failure to grasp basic reading comprehension.

Everytime you say gas lighting I just imagine handing you a world war one gas mask that's filled with my fart, for you to try on.

What does it even mean..?

[jet]

Everytime you say gas lighting I just imagine handing you a world war one gas mask that's filled with my fart, for you to try on.

What does it even mean..?

Oh Parmy :joker:

[Marsh.]

Everytime you say gas lighting I just imagine handing you a world war one gas mask that's filled with my fart, for you to try on.

What does it even mean..?

Educate yourself and look it up.

[Tom4784]

Everytime you say gas lighting I just imagine handing you a world war one gas mask that's filled with my fart, for you to try on.

What does it even mean..?

I'm not here to educate you, Google is a thing, make use of it.

[GoldHeart]

beautiful woman

firm but fair

strikes a chord with the GBP

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/imageserver/image/%2Fmethode%2Ftimes%2Fprod%2Fweb%2Fbin%2F7c61abc4-5a4d-11ea-ae40-36d0719ad0bc.jpg?crop=3232%2C1818%2C0%2C168&resize=1180

:umm2:

[arista]

The UK’s broken asylum system has led to devastating outcomes. This was recently
highlighted by the case of Libyan refugee Khairi Saadallah, who was granted asylum
before carrying out his deadly June 2020 terrorist attack in the Berkshire town of
Reading.

Saadallah was not deported over previous criminal convictions – including racially-
aggravated assault – due to human rights concerns associated with his country of
origin. Indeed, it is believed that since 1998, around a quarter of foreign-national
Islamist terror offenders in the UK had either claimed or were granted asylum. This
represents a fundamental systems failure. We can no longer afford to ignore how liberal
asylum policies and failed integration outcomes have fed the beast of Islamist
extremism in our society.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/25/priti-patel-acknowledging-immigration-security-issue-will-music/




Yes Evil.

https://news.sky.com/story/khairi-saadallah-terrorist-who-murdered-three-in-brutal-reading-attack-gets-whole-life-sentence-12184977


[Khairi Saadallah, a Libyan refugee, pleaded guilty
to three counts of murder
after killing James Furlong, David Wails
and Joseph Ritchie-Bennett in Forbury Gardens
on 20 June last year.

Saadallah "executed" each man with
a single knife blow to the back of the head
in the space of less than 30 seconds,
the Old Bailey heard.]

[Beso]

Educate yourself and look it up.

See this is the thing, I'm 51 so I dont really feel the need to educate myself further.

I've already got everything I need stored up there already.

[joeysteele]

Educate yourself and look it up.

Indeed.
My Mum now in her 70s, always tells me no one is ever too old to not be wrong, or to learn much more too.

[Marsh.]

See this is the thing, I'm 51 so I dont really feel the need to educate myself further.

I've already got everything I need stored up there already.

That’s your problem.

[Beso]

That’s your problem.

Problem?

No, its not a problem. If anything not having to look things up on google all the time makes my life easier.:shrug:

[Tom4784]

Ignorance is a choice.

[Captain.Remy]

This really went from a key-note speech about immigration to gas masks filled with farts. Only on TIBB as usual :laugh:

[user104658]

See this is the thing, I'm 51 so I dont really feel the need to educate myself further.

Brexit in a nutshell.

[DouglasS]

Everytime you say gas lighting I just imagine handing you a world war one gas mask that's filled with my fart, for you to try on.

What does it even mean..?

It’s a word used by the easily offended is what I’ve been told.

[Glenn.]

See this is the thing, I'm 51 so I dont really feel the need to educate myself further.

I've already got everything I need stored up there already.

Shocking

[Beso]

Shocking

Let's put it another way.

I dont think there are any words that, you, dezzy or marsh could ever say that would interest me enough to waste my time searching on google.

[Tom4784]

It’s a word used by the easily offended is what I’ve been told.

If that's the case, you'd be busting it out every topic with all the pearls you clutch.

[Tom4784]

Let's put it another way.

I dont think there are any words that, you, dezzy or marsh could ever say that would interest me enough to waste my time searching on google.

You don't need to put it any other way than you chose to be ignorant.

[DouglasS]

If that's the case, you'd be busting it out every topic with all the pearls you clutch.

Think you’ve got the wrong guy… When I view serious debates forum I am not one of the people constantly getting upset or getting personal, as you have already done in this thread :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Think you’ve got the wrong guy… When I view serious debates forum I am not one of the people constantly getting upset or getting personal, as you have already done in this thread :laugh:

checkmate :laugh:

[Marsh.]

Let's put it another way.

I dont think there are any words that, you, dezzy or marsh could ever say that would interest me enough to waste my time searching on google.

But interests you enough to obsess and constantly send me PMs.

:pat:

[Swan]

But interests you enough to obsess and constantly send me PMs.

:pat:

Remember when you lied saying that about me? :laugh:

[Tom4784]

Think you’ve got the wrong guy… When I view serious debates forum I am not one of the people constantly getting upset or getting personal, as you have already done in this thread :laugh:

By all means, incorrectly tell me what I'm feeling, you can flop at that because that's what you do best.

[Marsh.]

Remember when you lied saying that about me? :laugh:

"Lied" Sure. :thumbs:

[Swan]

"Lied" Sure. :thumbs:

Well, i told the mods, and Jame he has permission to go through every single DM i've ever sent.

You know you lied, you're just salty with me, like when you posted on my wall.

We both know the truth, try harder next time :)

[DouglasS]

By all means, incorrectly tell me what I'm feeling, you can flop at that because that's what you do best.

You’ve just proven my point, thank you :laugh:

[Marsh.]

Well, i told the mods, and Jame he has permission to go through every single DM i've ever sent.

You know you lied, you're just salty with me, like when you posted on my wall.

We both know the truth, try harder next time :)

I know you want everything to be about you. You have your moment buddy. :thumbs:

[rusticgal]

You’ve just proven my point, thank you :laugh:


The truth...:laugh:

[Swan]

I know you want everything to be about you. You have your moment buddy. :thumbs:

No one on this forum would ever say that about me, only you. And the reason? Because that's your best. You're pathetic, and a liar. Someone quotes you = "Obsessed" - Someone go against you, you just 'attempt' belittle and argue with them. You offer nothing.

The biggest irony is how hypocritical and ironic YOU are. You lied, admit it, take responsibility for your bs then i might respect you.

I might get a ban for the above, that's ok, the truth hurts and you know it. Time to get over yourself, buddy :-)

[Marsh.]

TiBB: .....

Swan: Remember me...

[James]

I'm going to lock this now.