Boris Johnson called health secretary hopeless in WhatsApp message - Dominic Cummings

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Dominic Cummings has published messages apparently from Boris Johnson, in which the PM describes the health secretary as "hopeless".

It is the latest salvo in a bitter war of words between Mr Cummings and Mr Hancock over the handling of the coronavirus pandemic.

The PM's former aide accuses Mr Hancock of trying to rewrite history at a select committee appearance last week.

He repeats claims - denied by Mr Hancock - that he lied to the PM.

The WhatsApp messages, which appear to show an exchange between Mr Johnson and Mr Cummings on 27 March last year, have been put on Mr Cummings blog.

[arista]

Yes more of the same

[Smithy]

:skull:

[arista]

I wonder if they will go Front Page?

PM dissing Hancock

Wanting Gove to take over

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9692327/Dominic-Cummings-posts-bombshell-WhatsApp-message-Boris-Johnson.html


Cummings Grinding his Axe

[user104658]

Some of the revisionism Hancock is attempting is really baffling though - e.g. there never being a PPI shortage. It wasn't as extreme a shortage as some other countries have experienced, or as was feared, but to pretend it didn't happen? :think:

[The Slim Reaper]

Their You Gov polling numbers will go up again on the back of this :laugh:

[Liam-]

Their You Gov polling numbers will go up again on the back of this :laugh:

‘It’s a witch hunt!’
‘He’s a grass! Boo!’
‘Poor Boris, leave him alone!!’
‘Nobody could have done better!!’
‘Brexit!!!!’

[Crimson Dynamo]

‘It’s a witch hunt!’
‘He’s a grass! Boo!’
‘Poor Boris, leave him alone!!’
‘Nobody could have done better!!’
‘Brexit!!!!’

Liam you dont need to show us your whatsapp group messages

its just Boris

[arista]

The Small Text
would be Ideal as a Front page.

[Ammi]

…the bizarre thought that dishonesty and self serving would turn against dishonesty and self serving….

[Cherie]

Jeez they are long messages :laugh:

Im more the ‘wtf do we do’ short and sweet whatsapper

[Ammi]

…I’m thinking that history will show that this was the most deceitful government of all time…

[Ammi]

Jeez they are long messages :laugh:

Im more the ‘wtf do we do’ short and sweet whatsapper

…I’m the one still typing while the problem was sorted out and solved days ago…

[Cherie]

…I’m the one still typing while the problem was sorted out and solved days ago…

:joker:

[Cherie]

Wonder how Mattie will respond will he pick up his ball and go home, or front it out while aligning with Gove to stab Bojo in the back at the first opportunity

[Crimson Dynamo]

…I’m thinking that history will show that this was the most deceitful government of all time…

Lol

I think Blair will win that accolade

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[joeysteele]

…I’m thinking that history will show that this was the most deceitful government of all time…

Across the board on the majority of the things it's done and been deceitful on, yes absolutely.

[bots]

hopeless hancock, it has a nice ring to it

[The Slim Reaper]

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[Oliver_W]

Inviting a viper like Cummings into one's bed is never a wise idea, he was stocking the silver bullets from the start.

Would be amusing if he finally managed to get BoJo ousted, but he's not like a real person, he never actually responds to anything or answers questions, he just blusters and rambles on. While he's a twat his methods make his almost Teflon.

[DouglasS]

Dominic Cummings is incredibly unprofessional - he should never work again. Clearly just a sad disgruntled employee that seems bitter

[Livia]

hopeless hancock, it has a nice ring to it

It does. Like failing Grayling.

[Livia]

Dominic Cummings is incredibly unprofessional - he should never work again. Clearly just a sad disgruntled employee that seems bitter

I was just wondering who on earth would give him a job now?

[Cherie]

I was just wondering who on earth would give him a job now?

I guess he must have a good business plan as he is literally unemployable at this stage

[Livia]

I guess he must have a good business plan as he is literally unemployable at this stage

And I'm not sure anyone is going to want to read his autobiography.

[Crimson Dynamo]

He is just as sad angry child with a petty agenda

And we all know people like that...

[Marsh.]

It is nice to see people who relentlessly defended his actions last year to suddenly see him for what he is. :love:

[joeysteele]

It is nice to see people who relentlessly defended his actions last year to suddenly see him for what he is. :love:

Whatever he is and with all his now declared nasty traits.

This Prime Minister employed him, trusted him, put him at the heart of government.
With him being his closest advisor too.
Even hailing his integrity!!!

So it actually says much more about the judgement of this Prime Minister than much about Cummings.

[DouglasS]

Employer: trusts/promotes employee
Employee: stabs another colleague

It’s the employers fault because he trusted them and they’re the business owner!

[Marsh.]

Whatever he is and with all his now declared nasty traits.

This Prime Minister employed him, trusted him, put him at the heart of government.
With him being his closest advisor too.
Even hailing his integrity!!!

So it actually says much more about the judgement of this Prime Minister than much about Cummings.

Absolutely.

[Marsh.]

Employer: trusts/promotes employee
Employee: stabs another colleague

It’s the employers fault because he trusted them and they’re the business owner!

Except we're not talking about a stabbing, we're talking about how he conducted his job.... which is certainly a part of his employer's responsibilities.

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[bots]

What Cummings is saying isnt new though. We all know that Hancock is incompetent and has lied or re-interpreted the truth since the start of the pandemic. So it's not going to damage the PM and its not going to damage Hancock any more than it could already.

Hancock has always been the fall guy for government. When the enquiry comes along they have their guy to blame. Hancock seems quite content to go along with that too

[arista]

What Cummings is saying isnt new though. We all know that Hancock is incompetent and has lied or re-interpreted the truth since the start of the pandemic. So it's not going to damage the PM and its not going to damage Hancock any more than it could already.

Hancock has always been the fall guy for government. When the enquiry comes along they have their guy to blame. Hancock seems quite content to go along with that too



Yes Good Points

[AnnieK]

Cummings is an idiot and so snidey at this point its not difficult to see why Boris was possibly so unwilling to let him go after the Barnard Castle debacle, he knew just how low he would snoop.

Boris has learned an important lesson about anything you put in writing can come back and bite you on the arse though.

It's a messy affair whichever side you look at it.

I do think Hapless Hancock has made a massive hash of things and needs to be held accountable for his failings though

[Ammi]

Cummings is an idiot and so snidey at this point its not difficult to see why Boris was possibly so unwilling to let him go after the Barnard Castle debacle, he knew just how low he would snoop.

Boris has learned an important lesson about anything you put in writing can come back and bite you on the arse though.

It's a messy affair whichever side you look at it.

I do think Hapless Hancock has made a massive hash of things and needs to be held accountable for his failings though

….hmmmmm, maybe….but he also knew that he’d placed himself in a position to be compromised because ‘there is no honour among the thieves’ as they say…I think it’s all a thing of self protection etc now, rather than a lesson learned….

[The Slim Reaper]

The eloquence of silence

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[Marsh.]

Cummings is an idiot and so snidey at this point its not difficult to see why Boris was possibly so unwilling to let him go after the Barnard Castle debacle, he knew just how low he would snoop.


I don't know about this. Would Boris say half the things he said to him, especially on WhatsApp, if he was aware of what a snake he was? Is Boris that stupid?