The Conservative Party Conference :Johnson Live 11:30AM, 3-6 Oct : Central Manchester

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https://www.conservatives.com/conference



Starts this Sunday

Johnson on Marr BBC1HD

[Crimson Dynamo]

Can it be worse than Labour?

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[joeysteele]

I'll watch it even though as usual it will be robotic and stage managed to as near perfection of not a thing going wrong or allowed to.

Although we did get entertained once with Theresa Mays coughing performance all through her speech.


I think all these conferences from political Parties should have a day where the general public, no selection, were allowed to be in, not the party members.

Watching the heckling of Starmer, that's how Politics was at elections.
With regular heckling testing the quality of would be MPs.

It would remove the starch from this usual outing of programmed individuals.
Something you don't get from Labour.
Where anything can happen.
So much more interesting.

I even thought that when I was more a Con supporter too.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-10050879/In-masterful-analysis-ahead-Tory-Party-conference-ANDREW-NEIL-warns-reckoning-near.html


Andrew Neil
not on any TV contract.
Writing for the DM.


[It is unprecedented at this stage in the
political cycle for a government as assailed
by as many woes and mistakes of its
own making as this one.
Keir Starmer might have begun Labour's return
to respectability (and, eventually, electability)
in Brighton this past week.
But the current Tory lead shows the
mountain he has to climb.

Even to win a majority of one at the
next election would require a swing to
Labour of more than ten per cent on the 2019 result
and the taking of 123 seats — more than Tony Blair's
historic landslide in 1997.
That is simply mission impossible.
So, plenty of reasons for Tory cheer in Manchester.
But it would be sensible to eschew any sense
of complacency, much less triumphalism
(which would be totally inappropriate at a time of
shortages and supply chain chaos).]

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-10050879/In-masterful-analysis-ahead-Tory-Party-conference-ANDREW-NEIL-warns-reckoning-near.html


Andrew Neil
not on any TV contract.
Writing for the DM.


[It is unprecedented at this stage in the
political cycle for a government as assailed
by as many woes and mistakes of its
own making as this one.
Keir Starmer might have begun Labour's return
to respectability (and, eventually, electability)
in Brighton this past week.
But the current Tory lead shows the
mountain he has to climb.

Even to win a majority of one at the
next election would require a swing to
Labour of more than ten per cent on the 2019 result
and the taking of 123 seats — more than Tony Blair's
historic landslide in 1997.
That is simply mission impossible.
So, plenty of reasons for Tory cheer in Manchester.
But it would be sensible to eschew any sense
of complacency, much less triumphalism
(which would be totally inappropriate at a time of
shortages and supply chain chaos).]

He's right.
I am under no illusion that Labour can win the next election outright.

However even a small Con lead would see the Cons overall majority disappear.
It can be very likely that a hung parliament can result next time round.

If Labour can get neck and neck, then it's likely Labour could be the largest Party.

That in my view is the best Labour can hope for and it would mean disaster for the Cons.
As every other party in parliament now except for the DUP, would NOT help the Cons back into power, if it was possible to outvote them.

If Labour and the SNP were to have enough seats to secure overall status together in the Commons.
Then either agreed support or a coalition could be in place.

Labour then needs to get to be around 4% behind the Cons to start to remove the overall majority.
Anything closer than that or Labour with any lead, would see the Cons out.

That is the best to hope for as to Labour.
UNLESS voters really take on board the solid fact.

In this stupid outdated electoral system.
If the majority of voters who go to vote, DON'T WANT a Con government returned.
Then the ONLY way to ensure that is to vote Labour.

If they go to vote for any other Party, all they do is split the anti Con vote.
Then allow the Cons in again with an overall majority as in 2019.

Even with 56% of voters, voting AGAINST the Cons as was the case in 2019.
Unbelievable..

That is the very sad and hard fact of the electoral system we have that actually negates the majority of votes cast in elections, rather than serves the voters.
If the majority of voters DON'T want Johnson and the Cons returned in the next election, they need to vote Labour.

In Scotland, it's immaterial, as the SNP taking near all the seats there, they'd ensure with all their might, for the Cons to be out of power.

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[If Labour and the SNP were to have enough seats to secure overall status together in the Commons.
Then either agreed support or a coalition could be in place.]

Yes it could come down to that.

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From SkyNewsHD Newspaper image

Daily Mail Pages 6 & 7 Interview with Rishi.

Labour Deputy Rayner: "Tories Are Racist Scum"


Chancellor Rishi Sunak : "I don't Consider Myself To be a Racist"

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Joe Pike Reporting Live for SkyNewsHD
outside the Manchester Conservative Centre
some old git appeared behind him with a Euro Parliament Flag.

He is Lucky I was not there
I would have Snatched it from his old hands
and ran off.
And Destroyed it.

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[joeysteele]

I think that's a kind of insult to pigs actually.
They're nicer beings by far.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-10050879/In-masterful-analysis-ahead-Tory-Party-conference-ANDREW-NEIL-warns-reckoning-near.html


Andrew Neil
not on any TV contract.
Writing for the DM.


[It is unprecedented at this stage in the
political cycle for a government as assailed
by as many woes and mistakes of its
own making as this one.
Keir Starmer might have begun Labour's return
to respectability (and, eventually, electability)
in Brighton this past week.
But the current Tory lead shows the
mountain he has to climb.

Even to win a majority of one at the
next election would require a swing to
Labour of more than ten per cent on the 2019 result
and the taking of 123 seats — more than Tony Blair's
historic landslide in 1997.
That is simply mission impossible.
So, plenty of reasons for Tory cheer in Manchester.
But it would be sensible to eschew any sense
of complacency, much less triumphalism
(which would be totally inappropriate at a time of
shortages and supply chain chaos).]
Well yeah.

Thanks to the 2019 loss, even losing by a few seats is a massive hill to climb...

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I think that's a kind of insult to pigs actually.
They're nicer beings by far.


For Sure
he is such a great Cartoonist.



Mayor Andy Burnham was on GBnewsHD
in Central Manchester
he wants the same Travel System that London has.
He would like the Government to work with him
Cofounding the project
with a completion by 2024.


Level Up Etc.

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Reform UK Party
is also having their (first) Conference
I assume via Twitter live feed for them.

Of Course they have No MP's
At this time.



Richard Tice
was on GBnewsHD.

[joeysteele]

At least from the Reform party it seems there's more genuine compassion a little more, than the lip service just handed out from the Cons.

The problem really being, anything Johnson says cannot be trusted or believed.
Never really knowing, what he means, what he thinks or what he really intends to do either.

Just words, empty words.
Yet most of the media and around 38% to 40% of those who vote too fall for it.

The 55% + who don't trust or believe him, really need to think hard on ensuring they get him out.
That doesn't happen if the opposition votes to him are split..
All you get is him back with an overall majority.

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I think Boris is genuinely concerned about many things, it's just that many of them are near impossible to fix

Also, there are plenty decent conservatives just like there are plenty decent labour members. The worst in each party are equally bad

[arista]

Johnson PM now Live on BBC1HD Marr.

[joeysteele]

I think Boris is genuinely concerned about many things, it's just that many of them are near impossible to fix

Also, there are plenty decent conservatives just like there are plenty decent labour members. The worst in each party are equally bad

I agree partly.

I know of a great many caring compassionate Cons.
As with their MPs.

However to date, no Labour or other parties MPs except for the Lib Dems in coalition.
Have voted in power to add greater intense stress and humiliating testing of the sick and disabled, even terminally ill cancer patients.
Only Cons and Lib Dems have.
Over the past 11 years under 3 different Con PMs too.
Still in place those heartless policies too.
Only now, ONLY with the support of Cons in parliament.
Plus Con voters who put them into parliament.

To me that's unforgivable.

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Marr :In 10 Days
120,000 Pigs will be Killed and Burnt.
(They have no one, staff, to process for this meat for our food supply)

Johnson Prime Minister
says it has not yet happened?

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The Political Correction Show

Now Live inside the Conference

On GBnewsHD

Presented by the Conservative Lady
and the Northern Ireland Ex Minister Lady.


Farage and The Left Wing Union Fella
back in the Paddington London Studio.



Also on DAB
Tom Newton Dunn is Live in the Conference.
Also Online, Free.
Times Radio

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/radio/live

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Very Early today
Johnson did his normal run

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It's becoming abundantly clear that the country needs more manpower than it can provide internally. Our economy can't survive without some degree of open borders for migrant work, without conditions or red tape. It's pretty much that simple.

[user104658]

Honestly I strongly suspect that in the long run, we'll end up back in an economic pact with the EU that allows for both borderless free trade and free movement (which has been the stumbling block in most trade talks). Not before untold damage has been done though. Woooo Brexit.

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It's becoming abundantly clear that the country needs more manpower than it can provide internally. Our economy can't survive without some degree of open borders for migrant work, without conditions or red tape. It's pretty much that simple.


Yes it appears The Prime Minister
has it wrong.

More Professional Migrant Workers are needed.

[Livia]

Migrants allow employers to pay low wages. If they were forced to pay more maybe it'd be more attractive to indigenous people. There are plenty of people unemployed. When you sign on you have to agree that you'll take any job paying the minimum wage and that you'll travel x number of miles.

[arista]

Migrants allow employers to pay low wages. If they were forced to pay more maybe it'd be more attractive to indigenous people. There are plenty of people unemployed. When you sign on you have to agree that you'll take any job paying the minimum wage and that you'll travel x number of miles.


Yes but they are not trained
or willing to work on a farm.

They are not willing to replace the many jobs.

[arista]

Honestly I strongly suspect that in the long run, we'll end up back in an economic pact with the EU that allows for both borderless free trade and free movement (which has been the stumbling block in most trade talks). Not before untold damage has been done though. Woooo Brexit.


No because even Starmer
has now accepted Brexit in full.

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we are certain to have closer trade ties with europe going forward. It will be branded something different than a customs union, but it will be the same thing

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The New Party Chairman
is now Live via Facebook Feed.

Oliver Dowden
telling the Conference
how crazy it would be to pull down Churchill Statue


He mentioned Labours "Scum" word
shows how Starmer lacks control.

[Oliver_W]

He mentioned Labours "Scum" word
shows how Starmer lacks control.

What's he meant to do, sew her lips closed?

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What's he meant to do, sew her lips closed?


Make her say Sorry

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Liz Truss new Foreign Secretary

Is Now Live on SkyNewsHD
and GBnewsHD

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Outside


Not seen this on the news

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So Now they Chuck Kid Balls


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The New Party Chairman
is now Live via Facebook Feed.

Oliver Dowden
telling the Conference
how crazy it would be to pull down Churchill Statue


He mentioned Labours "Scum" word
shows how Starmer lacks control.

Oliver Dowden isn't known for being the wisest.

You can't control people or is he saying that's what Johnson does.
Dictates to all his Cabinet only to say what they're told to,not to have any of their own thinking.

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Its the Epidemic
effecting all around the World


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10054025/Boris-dodges-food-fuel-shortages-till-CHRISTMAS.html

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Rishi Sunak (around 11:50AM)
today wants many to be Upskilled
into new Jobs.


He has been on all Radio and TV
this morning.

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[joeysteele]

He came across really badly on ITV today.. just seemed to either not care or just wanted to dismiss, the massive influx they say they'd had from people affected by the halting of the Universal Credit uplift.

Yes, of course it was a temporary measure but since it was put in place, inflation is higher, they're going to increase NI, energy bills have gone up considerably again.

Winter looming, this isn't the time to stop in full, that temporary uplift.

Why does too,no presenter challenge Ministers on the cold weather payments.
They are the most hard to get from the most ridiculous of rulings to get them.

People eligible for them can get £25 for a 7 day period where the temperature falls to or below freezing.
It's paid in arrears even for those on those awful pre pay meters.
Often up to 2 weeks after the freezing 7 days.

However, here's the big block to these payments.
It has to be freezing for 7 CONSECUTIVE days.

In a 3 week period for instance.
You may find 6 days in a row, at freezing or below, the 7th day the temperature at some point hits up to 1 degree above freezing.
No payment triggered.

The same could happen the next 2 weeks.

Making around 18 days in 3 weeks where the temperature was freezing or below.
With ONLY 3 days, above freezing.

Yet there'd be NO payment of the £25 to anyone in that period in that scenario.

It is not fit for purpose.
Sunak this morning said people can get £25 a week in cold weather payments.

He didn't go on to say how it's fixed in a way where very few indeed payments are ever triggered.

Yet no one challenges Ministers on these things.

Sunak for the first time for me, today came across ice cold in compassion.
Talking about new training for better jobs, which will take not weeks but months if even possible, yet reducing income right now.

Unbelievable and heartless.
Amid the triumphalism we'll no doubt see this week which will please hard-line members there at conference and will also please the heartless hardline supporters of the Cons.

I hope however that for up to 10% of voters who give softer support to the Cons, plus the Con members who are caring and know this wrong, I hope they'll just try to make their voices heard, as well if they are allowed to, over the deceit and over the voices of this heartless, hard-line PM and his Cabinet.

[bots]

Sunak told those who were in the arts industry including musicians to get another job as the covid benefits didn't apply to them, so i've always known he was a cold heartless bstard. Who was going to get a job anywhere during the lockdowns

[joeysteele]

Sunak told those who were in the arts industry including musicians to get another job as the covid benefits didn't apply to them, so i've always known he was a cold heartless bstard. Who was going to get a job anywhere during the lockdowns


Hmm, yes, good points there bots.

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Johnson PM
On a building site in Manchester.
Was on SkyNewsHD.

Going on about Carbon Capture?
But in the UK none is working,


His 2030 plan.


Iceland has a plant that can do it.

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Rishi was Live

He said Labour do not like us!
And they do not like each other.

A short speech by Rishi.

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Johnson PM
today has given Interviews
to all the ITV1HD regional shows.

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[5 arrested after Iain Duncan Smith
allegedly assaulted
Five arrested after Iain Duncan Smith
allegedly assaulted outside Tory conference
Iain Duncan Smith, the former Tory leader and
former work and pensions secretary,
has been assaulted at the conference,
the Spectator is reporting.]

[Duncan Smith told the Spectator he was
confronted by a group as he was going
to an event outside the conference secure zone
and that at one point he was hit on
the head with a cone.
He said he was so angry that he was tempted to retaliate,
and that at that point the group backed off.

Greater Manchester Police told the
Spectator that officers were there within minutes,
that there were not thought to be any serious injuries
and that five people - three men and
two women - had been arrested.]



https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2021/oct/04/tory-conference-boris-johnson-rishi-sunak-conservative-party-politics-live-news?page=with:block-615b2f1f8f0871ecf8faafe5#block-615b2f1f8f0871ecf8faafe5


Also reported on Ch4HDnews.

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Was it Covid that Shut his Job down?

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Prime Minister Johnson
is going Live on LBC from 7AM.

And also Live on Times Radio,
after 8:30AM


Also Radio4
and BBC1

[arista]

Today we hear from
the Home Secretary who is bringing in plans
to make these (Lemmings) Insulate Britain
go to Jail.

[arista]

The Prime Minister
is still boycotting GMBHD itv
(Maybe this week as he will not speak with Labours Alastair Campbell
who is guest presenting)

So they are using the Recorded interview
from STV1HD from yesterday.

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5mins long

[Oliver_W]

"Dishy Rishy" managed to steamroll all the goodwill he manufactured during lockdown :joker:

[arista]

Johnson on the BBC1 interview
talked about his clean energy sources,
but there is not enough, in my view.

Dan the interviewer, a lightweight.


He was just Live on LBC.

Calling the M25 Protestors, old Crusties.

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Johnson Is live on Times Radio

He has refused to go on GMBHD itv and SkyNewsHD


SkyNewsHD had his Dad.



GMBHD itv while interviewing Kit Malthouse
moved their camera round to show Johnson giving a Live interview of Times Radio
Seated on a table with Tom Newton Dunn.
Johnson Like on Marr still would not accept
the 120,000 Pig Cull.
He just said we eat Bacon (Timers Radio Interview)

[joeysteele]

Johnson on the BBC1 interview
talked about his clean energy sources,
but there is not enough, in my view.

Dan the interviewer, a lightweight.


He was just Live on LBC.

Calling the M25 Protestors, old Crusties.


Dan is okay as a presenter but he has no real skill to follow up on answers, or more as to this PM follow up on NO answers.
There's no need in interviewing to be too confrontational, however it shouldn't be just like an old pals meeting up chat

It was really hilarious however, to hear Kit Malthouse on Good Morning Britain, say he didn't know where Johnson was, yet he was only sitting a few yards away from him.

They really do take voters and viewers for fools.

[arista]

[It was really hilarious however, to hear Kit Malthouse on Good Morning Britain, say he didn't know where Johnson was, yet he was only sitting a few yards away from him.

They really do take voters and viewers for fools.]


Yes Kit said at the very end yes he is there.



Good they moved the ITV Camera to Times Radio Live interview

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The Home Secretary is Live

on
SkyNewsHD
GBnewsHD
BBCnewsHD

[arista]

Johnson has given Interviews
to Beth of SkyNewsHD

And BBCnewsHD

and GBnewsHD

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[Hydrogen car, the PM was shown around the stands
at the conference centre today]

But Costing £60,000
thats no good for the General public.

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[Mr Johnson climbed on an Electric Digger as he
carried out his whistlestop tour of the
conference stands this morning]

Costing around £40,000 or more

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The Home Secretary Today

Tomorrow the Final day
Prime Minister Johnson give his speech

[Crimson Dynamo]

Seems to be going a lot better than the labour sh1tshow

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The Long Queue
for Boris Johnson Live in 3 hours
has started already
There is a bigger hall reserved for him.

On GMBHD itv
The Deputy PM was Live
we can see the back of the long queue


On Times Radio (DAB & Free online)
they told us of the long queue starting too early.

[arista]

2 Farmers on SkyNewsHD said
"its shocking Heathy Pigs going to Waste."


The Prime minister is ignoring this,
the end result could be EU meats imported
as at least they are Cut and ready
for supermarkets.

[joeysteele]

2 Farmers on SkyNewsHD said
"its shocking Heathy Pigs going to Waste."


The Prime minister is ignoring this,
the end result could be EU meats imported
as at least they are Cut and ready
for supermarkets.

He's ignoring Just about all negative.

Just throwing out his deluded fantasy of optimism.
As if hardship isn't looming for millions.

It should be criminal for so many animals to be killed like this.
Healthy animals too.

I don't agree with animals being raised for slaughter as I'm vegetarian.
This just adds to the horror of it.

What a heartless cruel waste of animals live.

As you point out too, this blusher filled deceitful PM is just IGNORING this too.

What a pity this isn't all over the front pages rather than the fantasy he'll spout out today to get applause and cheers.

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We have the French going to Block our Fish Supply, now

Politics Live start at 11AM on BBC2HD
Due to his speech being fitted into it.

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Brave Conservative Dehenna Davison MP lady
has a Tory Scum Badge
on.
I like her Style.

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Hang on Owen
lets see what he says

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Great of SkyNewsHD
to send their Reporter into the Hall,


Cabinet on Stage
Johnson, soon

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Prime Minister now Live


All radio as well

[arista]

Bringing up Thatcher?
not wise

[Cherie]

Bringing up Thatcher?
not wise

Looks like he wants to lose the next election :laugh:

[arista]

Looks like he wants to lose the next election :laugh:


He has moved on now
and accepts we are unbalanced
as a nation.

Saying you should be able to work in the City you are in.


Now sounding better than Starmer.

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He says Labour want
to Level down.

He said Labour likes to run races
with no winner?


He keeps Banging his Plastic Stand

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He is talking about Internet
in Scotland.

Hydrogen - he mentioned,
but that is way over priced.

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Jabs, Jabs, Jabs
produces
Jobs, Jobs, Jobs

He just said.



Now he is Laying into Labour........

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[joeysteele]

The sad thing is.
The things he SAYS does not match up with what he does.

There's not much wrong in what he's saying but experience for me as to him, reveals he only pays lip service.

It's all short on how these things are even set out to do, never mind do.
Yet he's the PM, it's his government in power, they KNOW all there is to know, they have the data, all the information before them.
Yet he talks more as an Opposition leader, with hopes and ideas.

Yet he's the PM in power.

Now here he goes, waffling and bumbling, he's on a sticky wicket here as to the pandemic.
Considering the vast number of times he's had to u turn on what he says he wouldn't do again in the pandemic.

He forgets we went back into 2 lockdowns because of his and his government's incompetence of opening up things far too quickly and recklessly.

He really gives me a headache, his delivery is way too manic.

[arista]

Put Subtitles on
lower the volume

Try that Joey

[arista]

"He forgets we went back into 2 lockdowns because of his and his government's incompetence of opening up things far too quickly and recklessly."


Yes that has been Skipped
so far.

[arista]

Now he's Sticking up for Churchill

[arista]

Fast Ending


45mins

His wife has joined him.

[joeysteele]

Put Subtitles on
lower the volume

Try that Joey

:joker:I could yes.

I like to not only see someone speaking, I like to hear how they express things.

He just bulldozes through as if speech making is an inconvenience to him.

There's no emotion, no appropriate moderating of delivery even on sensitive issues from him.
Which reveals to me gross insincerity of the words he delivers.

As PM no compassion either towards all the grieving relatives of lost loved ones in the pandemic.

No real policy mentioned just ideas and hopes.
As I said more like an opposition speech than a government Prime Ministerial one.

[bots]

For what it was, it was a good speech i thought, but as he is so often repeating about Afghanistan, the government should be judged by it's actions, not it's words

[joeysteele]

Talking about previous governments too.

Has he ever worked out that out of the last 70 years.
The Cons have been in power for 45 years of those 70 years.
Near 65% of that period.

Then he talks of the mess things are NOW.
For crying out loud.

[arista]

Yes he was rushing at the very end.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/10/06/11/48829523-10064511-Carrie_Johnson_gave_her_husband_a_good_luck_kiss_b efore_he_deliv-a-31_1633517677832.jpg

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Yes Peston
this was the better one
we did not have endless gaps for clapping at Starmers mess

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[Cherie]

Not Battenberg cake...how random :laugh:

[arista]

Not Battenberg cake...how random :laugh:


Yes 5p Up.


Shocking.

[joeysteele]

There's other things gone up far more than just 5p.

The thing is however, all things up, adds up, to putting more strains on households.

Then add in the rising energy bills now too onto that lot.

[bots]

what is a lot less visible is that retailers margins have been squeezed to near zero. They have kept the rise down as much as they can by reducing their margin

[arista]

They are hoping to get 85%
Broadband across the land.

Lets see if that happens?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Sneaky Parmy putting Flat screen TV repairs cost up

Telling his old ladies "not my fault luv it's coz Covid"

:bored:

[Beso]

Sneaky Parmy putting Flat screen TV repairs cost up

Telling his old ladies "not my fault luv it's coz Covid"

:bored:

I would say hen, not luv.

[arista]

Conservative Party Political Broadcast on now ITV1HD
also on BBC1 at 6:55PM

Starts with Johnson in a Mask


Shows him watching a Fast Police Car, flashing light
chasing a car.


NHS
bust the backlogs

Green Industrial Revolution

Level Up


Johnson in a Classroom


Showing happy families

[Gusto Brunt]

I often listen to Talk Radio and today after the Boris Johnson speech - which I thought was absolute c**p - the presenters on there went all North Korea-style 'our leader is great' thing.

I thought what the heck. Even their new political reporter sold out by saying Boris Johnson's speech was the best ever. The presenters were grovelling and wetting themselves too. Pathetic.

Unbelieavable.

[bots]

the conference has to be compared with the labour one given they were only a week apart and my take is that labour just arent in the same league. There would have to be some catastrophic change in the way labour conducts itself for it to be considered a viable alternative

That being the case, makes the tories look great no matter what they say or do and thats why the media are enthusiastic about them. It's simply because labour are just sooooo bad

[arista]

Yes Labour have the Split
Corbynistas Vs Starmer.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I just don't think Labour are relevant today

I mean they are still calling each other comrade like its the 1970s :umm2:

the country has moved well ahead of that party and it needs disbanding and a new party formed with better ideas and not just BS pie in the sky idealism and no union ties.

[joeysteele]

Yes Labour have the Split
Corbynistas Vs Starmer.

There's always been problems with the different positions in Labour.

It settles down eventually.
Although I don't think Starmer is the one to unite Labour.

For a major reason.
He stood and canvassed on the manifesto of 2019.
In fact the Brexit position was what he was the architect of In a major part.

Even as far back as Harold Wilson, an old Lady neighbour of mine, told me there were those who supported George Brown, who often caused problems for Wilson as leader.

I still say, Andy Burnham for me.
It was a mistake not to elect him in 2010 and then again not to in 2015.

I wouldn't be so sure however that the voters will stick with this heartless shower much longer.

A winter with much higher energy bills, then NI hitting in April, not forgetting inflation starting to hit prices across the board.

Winters of discontent don't get forgotten easy no matter the government.
As Heath found in 1974 and Labour found in 1979.

My own mantra now, if Starmer was to embrace PR as the members want and listen to a growing number of his MPs too.
Then he could, I think romp home in an election.
He'd attract likely those too who don't usually vote, who want their votes to really count.

'Making ALL voters votes, ALL really count'.

The Cons would be in total panic and disarray if Labour adopted PR.

Maybe next year's conferences could bring a major shake up and surprise I think.

[Oliver_W]

I just don't think Labour are relevant today

I mean they are still calling each other comrade like its the 1970s :umm2:

the country has moved well ahead of that party and it needs disbanding and a new party formed with better ideas and not just BS pie in the sky idealism and no union ties.

To be fair it's mostly the nutters and irrelevancies who talk about "comrades" and related idiocy.

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[Oliver_W]

I'm sooo glad even the tabloids are seeing through the bullcrap. I mean, a bombastic and self-congratulatory speech like that one might have been good if his government was doing great for the country. But they aren't, so hopefully "Joanna and Michael" won't be swayed by selected highlights.

(I've not seen the full speech, just a couple of highlight reels)

Though protecting green spaces is a good pledge. It's quite sad how many crappy little estates have sprung up in the fields around here...

[arista]

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Last night's Edition

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