200-acre North Hampshire solar farm met with backlash by Nimby locals

[arista]

[Plans to build a huge solar farm in
North Hampshire,
capable of powering 17,000 homes,
are facing opposition from local residents.
Enso Energy has submitted plans to build
the 200-acre farm on land between Silchester
and Bramley which, if built, would be
the size of 140 football pitches.

According to the energy company,
the farm would take 25,000 tonnes
of carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere
every year – an equivalent reduction
of 8,000 cars on the road – and supply
almost 50MW of clean renewable
electricity to the National Grid.]




Why moan at essential
Power we need.


https://www.newburytoday.co.uk/news/200-acre-north-hampshire-solar-farm-met-with-backlash-by-locals-9194399/

[glib]

140 football pitches is a lot

[Oliver_W]

Wasting that green space for a solar farm in England is a bit stupid.

[arista]

Wasting that green space for a solar farm in England is a bit stupid.



You are Wrong
that is Electric power to a whole county - that is Essential
They are Fields doing nothing,




China has the biggest Solar Farm in the world
it has some pig farmers under them.

[Kizzy]

I don't agree either... which may be surprising.

Putting those on existing structures and using the land for housing would be a better use of the space if it's availiable.

[Oliver_W]

They are Fields doing nothing,



Being 200 acres of green space is what they're doing, and that's worth a lot more than some numbers on a screen.

If they have the money and resources to do put the panels over the fields, they can put them on roofs.

[arista]

Being 200 acres of green space is what they're doing, and that's worth a lot more than some numbers on a screen.

If they have the money and resources to do put the panels over the fields, they can put them on roofs.


No putting on roofs costs much more.


Solar FARMS are Great
That green space is not being used


It is our Future

[arista]

I don't agree either... which may be surprising.

Putting those on existing structures and using the land for housing would be a better use of the space if it's available.



No new housing needs Electric Power
from this New Big Solar Farm



Kizzy a Nimby



Shocking

[Oliver_W]

No putting on roofs costs much more.


Solar FARMS are Great
That green space is not being used


It is our Future


The green space is being used - it's green space.

While brownfields sites still exist, there is no excuse for destroying the countryside, especially for something as barely-useful as solar.

[Toy Soldier]

"an equivalent reduction of 8,000 cars on the road"

:facepalm: the phrase "piss in the ocean" comes to mind - there are nearly 40 million registered vehicles on the road in the UK and you can easily assume 15-20 million actively on the road regularly. "8000 cars" is nothing.

[arista]

The green space is being used - it's green space.

While brownfields sites still exist, there is no excuse for destroying the countryside, especially for something as barely-useful as solar.


It is wasted Green Space

This Location is Ideal
for Electric connections to the grid


This should go Front Page
when it gets approved

[Oliver_W]

wasted Green Space


Contradiction of terms.

[Kizzy]

Why greenfield and not brown?... it makes no sense.
Unless it's seen by landowners as the soft option. They then don't have to commit to the more pernanant changes of agriculture or urbanisation.

[arista]

Why greenfield and not brown?... it makes no sense.
Unless it's seen by landowners as the soft option. They then don't have to commit to the more pernanant changes of agriculture or urbanisation.



They may do one
a brownfield zone


This massive Solar farm
is perfect there
and a supply that will be used right away.

[bots]

they need to be more imaginative in how they locate solar panels. Using green field sites is wrong

[Kizzy]

No new housing needs Electric Power
from this New Big Solar Farm



Kizzy a Nimby



Shocking

It's not in my back yard so that's not my concern, I just don't see the point.

[arista]

The council last night
Refused this plan.

[Bramley solar farm plan rejected
by Basingstoke and Deane Borough Council
A plan to build a solar farm on land equivalent
to the size of 100 football pitches has been refused.

The company behind the project planned for
Bramley, Hampshire, said it would have
provided enough energy to power 11,700 family homes.

About 680 people formally said they
were opposed to it going ahead.

Councillors rejected it on the grounds
of the impact on the public right of way
and hampering exploration of the
area's Roman history.
The proposed development at
Minchens Lane - known as Bramley Frith - would have
been operational for up to 40 years
and span 85 hectares (210 acres) of agricultural land.]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-61170550

[bots]

good

[Cherie]

Glad this got the heave ho what about the wildlife and plants
, plenty existing roofs to put panels on...do that

[Toy Soldier]

they need to be more imaginative in how they locate solar panels. Using green field sites is wrong

Really they should be fitting them to houses (for free) and then once costs are covered, the houses they're on should only pay a nominal fee for network maintenance (say £20 a month or something like that).

They won't do that though, not enough £££ in it.

[bots]

they could attach solar panels on apartment blocks etc, where they could genuinely make a difference and not interfere with green space

[Kizzy]

I've seen ads for amazon where they are boasting of their 'green' energy solar farms. It powers only their operations it suggests in the ad. It's a shame everyone can't afford to buy huge swathes of land to go off grid!
Similarly with macdonalds their ad explains how their oil powers their trucks.. neatly bypassing the tax the rest of us pay on fuel.

[arista]

Glad this got the heave ho what about the wildlife and plants
, plenty existing roofs to put panels on...do that


No Cherie
that is not for this project
they will need to find another large area.

[Kizzy]

No Cherie
that is not for this project
they will need to find another large area.

As has been said brownfield not agricultural land is ideal there must be plenty of that in the UK?

[bots]

arista doesnt want to admit he was wrong, so it's pointless kizzy :laugh:

[arista]

arista doesnt want to admit he was wrong, so it's pointless kizzy :laugh:


I am Pro massive solar farms
they can find another location

That is Democracy,

[Kizzy]

I am Pro massive solar farms
they can find another location

That is Democracy,

Define democracy in terms of land allocation..

As far as I can see this solar company has leased this land for 40 years from the owner.
This makes money for both of them, the energy produced won't be subsidised most likely it will be sold to the grid.. so who benefits?

Also while it's a solar farm it's safe from development so no future housing projects.

[Toy Soldier]

Similarly with macdonalds their ad explains how their oil powers their trucks.. neatly bypassing the tax the rest of us pay on fuel.

I thought biodiesel was illegal? :think:

[arista]

Define democracy in terms of land allocation..

As far as I can see this solar company has leased this land for 40 years from the owner.
This makes money for both of them, the energy produced won't be subsidised most likely it will be sold to the grid.. so who benefits?

Also while it's a solar farm it's safe from development so no future housing projects.


Under the Condition of a Council to vote on it.

Massive Solar farms
will power local housing.


Both Labour and Conservative
failed in building enough new homes.

Labour has plans to build more homes for Local people
under Starmer,
if he wins a General Election.

[arista]

There is a Massive Solar Farm in China
it will supply power to the City near it.

Under the Solar Panels
are Pig farmers

That is Mass Production
at its best.

[Kizzy]

[QUOTE=arista;11156156]Under the Condition of a Council to vote on it.

Massive Solar farms
will power local housing.


Both Labour and Conservative
failed in building enough new homes.

Labour has plans to build more homes for Local people
under Starmer,
if he wins a General Election.[/QUOTE

So it's council agricultural land? ...or as it's commonly known greenbelt.

[arista]

Kizzy

So it's council agricultural land? ...or as it's commonly known greenbelt.

Both

[Kizzy]

I thought biodiesel was illegal? :think:

We are running a similar initiative in the UK, converting our used cooking oil into biodiesel through Olleco, a renewable fuel provider. This goes to our transport provider, Martin Brower, to help fuel delivery trucks, which backhaul food waste from our kitchens. And it doesn’t stop there. This food waste is converted by Olleco into gas and electricity, some of which is supplied to the neighboring Arla dairy, which supplies all of our organic milk in the UK. The milk they produce, along with other supplies, are delivered to restaurants by the biodiesel-fueled trucks. The circle continues.

https://corporate.mcdonalds.com/corpmcd/en-us/our-stories/article/PackagingAndWaste.cookingoil-to-fuel.html

[Oliver_W]

We are running a similar initiative in the UK, converting our used cooking oil into biodiesel through Olleco, a renewable fuel provider. This goes to our transport provider, Martin Brower, to help fuel delivery trucks, which backhaul food waste from our kitchens. And it doesn’t stop there. This food waste is converted by Olleco into gas and electricity, some of which is supplied to the neighboring Arla dairy, which supplies all of our organic milk in the UK. The milk they produce, along with other supplies, are delivered to restaurants by the biodiesel-fueled trucks. The circle continues.

https://corporate.mcdonalds.com/corpmcd/en-us/our-stories/article/PackagingAndWaste.cookingoil-to-fuel.html

Sounds good tbh

[arista]

I thought biodiesel was illegal? :think:


Is biodiesel legal in the UK?

[Anyone wishing to use, produce or sell biodiesel in the UK,
or elsewhere, is solely responsible for their actions
and must ensure that all relevant laws and
regulations are obeyed. The laws concerned:
Hydrocarbon Oil Duties Act 1979.
Hydrocarbon Oil (Payment of Rebates) Regulations 1996.]