UK Rail RMT ,ASLEF Union Rail Strikes 2023

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61723515

[Thousands of railway workers will walk
in a three-day national strike later
this month which threatens
major summer travel disruption across the UK.

The RMT Union said it will "shut down" the
country's railway network on 21, 23 and 25 June
after talks over pay and redundancies fell through.

More than 40,000 staff from Network Rail
and 13 train operators are expected to take part.

The action is being dubbed the "biggest rail strike in modern history".]



https://twitter.com/simoncalder/status/1529194507031531522?lang=en-GB

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3 days Strike
The Whole of the UK

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The Rail Union boss is Live on GMBHD itv.

Alternated Strike days means it will be a whole week

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its just going to mean further staff cuts if they strike. Crazy decision

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RMT Union Boss Mick Lynch

Now Live on BBC1 AM

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Live on LBC Radio

The Left Winger backs the Strikes

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10899359/Labour-backs-union-plot-coordinated-walkouts-railways-roads-Tubes-airports.html

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this is why labour will never get elected. They keep championing causes that piss off the majority of voters. I think they are pretty much clueless

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Now Croydon rail is to also to ballot for a Strike

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Live on Sophie Ridge SkyNewsHD

Labour Rachel Reeves
can not back the Strike?


Labour Party must get clear,
are they backing this Mega Week strike?

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Reports in the Papers
Conservative to modify Laws

To allow Agency Workers
to fill in some jobs

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Fridays Paper

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Easy Read Large Newspaper Article
Train Operator saying avoid using Rail
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Simon Calder (Transport Writer)
stated on Times Radio DAB
that having this strike on the By-election Double week
will not help
the Union.

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RMT Union are asking for 7% pay rise
and no extension to 35-hour week,


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[Oliver_W]

Goes to show - of you're going to ask commuters to rely on public transport, by the same method which is used to transport supplies for supermarkets ... You'd better make sure you don't piss off the staff :joker:

That said, train driving is almost automated these days. When the average train driver salary is like £50k, it might seem a bit tone-deaf to whine so much when their strikes will largely be affecting people on crap money and pointless unfulfilling jobs. There won't be a lot of support for almost a week's worth of strikes, and they're just asking for more automation.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Far from it. The RMT and its leader Mick Lynch are acting out of self-interest
alone, leveraging their vital position to hold the country to ransom. Some of the
lowest-paid workers in Britain will suffer the most. The middle classes may be
able and happy to retreat once again to their desks at home, but teachers need
to see their pupils in person, doctors and nurses to treat patients face to face.
Cooks cannot whip up virtual meals for hungry customers. Binmen cannot
collect rubbish while working from home. These are the victims of unionised
workers who, with a median wage of £44,000, earn considerably more than
them. Indeed, a third of rail staff are higher-rate taxpayers making more than
£50,000 a year. Now they want more than 10 per cent extra. Marooned care
workers on an average of £17,000 may find it hard to sympathise.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2022/06/17/public-wants-firm-action-union-chaos/

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Goes to show - of you're going to ask commuters to rely on public transport, by the same method which is used to transport supplies for supermarkets ... You'd better make sure you don't piss off the staff :joker:

That said, train driving is almost automated these days. When the average train driver salary is like £50k, it might seem a bit tone-deaf to whine so much when their strikes will largely be affecting people on crap money and pointless unfulfilling jobs. There won't be a lot of support for almost a week's worth of strikes, and they're just asking for more automation.


In many EU nations they are ahead of us
with Fully Automated Trains.


The Union says it is not about the Train Drivers
more about all the other workers.

The Transport Secretary
said they want Drones to go down the rail tracks
much safer
than a Rail Worker walker

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the railways have not recovered from the pandemic, there are nothing like the pre pandemic numbers travelling. By striking, they are just forcing people to use the alternatives more. If they put up prices it wont encourage people to travel by train

[Oliver_W]

The Union says it is not about the Train Drivers
more about all the other workers.

I'm sure the trolley-dollies and ticket checkers appreciate being forced out of work for a week by people on much better pay than them.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'm sure the trolley-dollies and ticket checkers appreciate being forced out of work for a week by people on much better pay than them.

i dont think either job now exists on the railways?

[bots]

i dont think either job now exists on the railways?


there are people that serve refreshments in first class, and down my way tickets are checked every journey

[Crimson Dynamo]

there are people that serve refreshments in first class, and down my way tickets are checked every journey

then i have read that they will go in the next round of changes

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BBC Text:
[Economists have warned this week's strikes
could knock 0.3-0.4% off GDP for June,
with up to one in 20 people unable to go to work.]

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BBC Text:
["Voters won't forgive rail strike betrayal" says
the Express, paraphrasing the transport secretary.
The paper says Grant Shapps has written
a hard-hitting letter to
the Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer,
saying it was staggering that he
would not speak out against the strike]

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[Vanessa]

Is there a tube strike as well? Might have to travel by bus.

[arista]

Is there a tube strike as well? Might have to travel by bus.



Yes many Tube Lines
are joining this strike



BBC1 London news
said all the tube strikes are Tuesday, only?

[Crimson Dynamo]

In the last 3 years, the RMT have balloted its members 204 times to go out on strike

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Professor Robert Thomas
Live on GMBHD itv

NHS Consultant Oncologist

120,000 on Therapy

By delaying therapy
there will be deaths
because of this Rail Strike.

This will affect the NHS for weeks ahead

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the RMT are politically motivated. They want to make it about a confrontation with the government, when it is the rail companies that have the plans for modernisation

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https://twitter.com/GMB/status/1538789034545356800

[Vanessa]

No seaside this week then. Oh well, I'm going to Ruislip Lido. It's not far from my house and they have a beach as well.

[arista]

No seaside this week then. Oh well, I'm going to Ruislip Lido. It's not far from my house and they have a beach as well.


Buses expected to be overloaded



But at least the Tube strike is Tomorrow Only

[Vanessa]

Buses expected to be overloaded



But at least the Tube strike is Tomorrow Only

Ah, ok. I might wait until Wednesday then

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Last Ditch Rail Talks
Failed.

All Media.


Day 1 of UK Rail Strike will start tonight.

Scotland has no Rail or Bus service for some parts.

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RMT is Live

Blaming the Transport Secretary

The Railway Companies refused
to agree, to what the Union asked

SkyNewsHD
BBCnewsHD

He said £4 Billion cuts on the way
He was told Every Ticket office will be closed

He will open talks, again
at any time during these strikes


London Underground
And UK railways start tomorrow

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He claims Covid is being used
as a smoke screen.
To do Massive Sackings


The Railway Companies
made £500 million profits


He answered all the Press questions

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Northern Ireland
appears to OK

Simon Calder claims

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Some old folk need a ticket office.

But The New Plan
is to get rid of all of them

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Transport Secretary Shapps


Now Live in Parliament

All 3 News Channels

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Labours Transport Lady Hayes

Just said last ditch talks must take place now.


But the Last Ditch Talks
Failed a few hours ago?

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Labour Run Wales
is not in this Strike.


Lucky Buggers
Although that only internal

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The Union is asking for a 7% pay increase.

The railway Companies
can not go that high.

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https://twitter.com/GMB/status/1538778132488110084

[AnnieK]

Reports in the Papers
Conservative to modify Laws

To allow Agency Workers
to fill in some jobs

It won't happen.....no reputable recruitment company will ask their staff to cross a picket line. Currently it's illegal to employ agency staff to back filll for staff striking and even if the Gov do change the law, I doubt many people will.want to cross a picket line

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strikes are going to be a regular thing. Who can blame someone for wanting sufficient money to live. The treasury just expect people to suffer and be grateful, and that's just not going to happen

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BBC Text :["worst strikes for 30 years, plus chaos
at our airports... and now this", pointing out,
in forthright terms, that Deputy Prime Minister Dominic Raab
is temporarily "in charge of the country"
while Mr Johnson recovers from a minor sinus operation.]


That Hospital visit was just an Hour
so a wasted headline


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Mick Lynch is Live on BBC1AM first




Last Night he was on Newsnight
Calling Chris Philp Conservative MP a lie


SkyNewsHD Kay Burley is in Waterloo (Avoiding Mick- Thats no Good)

Mick Lynch is at Euston Station

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Mick Lynch

Now live on GMBHD itv

Richard said are you are Marxist?
He said No

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Mick Lynch

Now Live on SkyNewsHD


She said people could Die
as some people need to get to hospital.

Mick said he given 2 weeks notice,

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Labour has banned
its MP's from going on any Picket lines.

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Tomorrow
Mick is again in Talks
the Director of Railways

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Sky Text :
[Unions have hailed a "new benchmark" for
pay awards as rail workers in Liverpool were given a 7.1% rise]

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One Zone got the 7%

[Merseyrail staff accept "sensible" 7% pay offer]

[Union members have accepted a pay offer
from Merseyrail in a deal they have praised
for being in keeping with the spiralling cost of living.
The Transport Salaried Staffs' Association (TSSA) said
the Merseyside rail operator's offer was worth 7.1%.
General secretary Manuel Cortes described the
deal as "a sensible outcome to a reasonable offer".
Merseyrail said it met with trade unions colleagues
as "part of our normal annual pay negotiations".]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-61897563

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Love it

Live in BBCnewsHD in Manchester

Bloke walks behind the Bloke Reporter him Shouts F ing Bollocks

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Yes Tell Him Mick,

https://twitter.com/itvpeston/status/1539718403216363520

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Mick Live on SkyNewsHD first.

He is in Central London.

He says a long way to go
they will have more strikes after today
as no real pay deal is arriving


He also stated he must give 2 weeks notice
for any next strikes

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From Ch4HDnews

George Martin
RMT Regional Manager
Glasgow Station

Network Rail plan to cut the Maintenance
in half.

He said the Public need to know that
as trains come off the track and fall down
embankment and people die.


Does that sound like a threat, or is it Shocking?

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Poor Cornwall
No Trains went there today, at all.

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Mick Lynch
just said he will announce new strikes
soon.

Live on SkyNewsHD

Durham,

He says he will not allow
Fire and ReHire.


Billions being cut from Railways,

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RMT Union Railway Strike, 24hours Weds July 27th


Again now set in place

[The Slim Reaper]

Get 'em, Mick.

[arista]

[Train drivers at eight rail companies will strike
on 30 July in a dispute over pay, union Aslef has announced.]

Now Saturday 30th as well.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62166276


Both Strikes 24hours

[arista]

Also RMT has added
2 more, Strike Dates 18th & 20th August.

[joeysteele]

I'm stunned Labour hasn't firmly backed this action.
Stop faffing about Starmer and start to stand with the people he should be.

Genuine grievances here not helped by the present Con governments apparent disinterest and arrogance.

[bots]

i'm very much anti-strike, but given the circumstances we all find ourselves in, i think its an absolute necessity that the government get it rammed down their throats that the public are suffering

[Vanessa]

Is there a strike on July 27? I need to take the Stansted express that day. Maybe I should go the day before.

[arista]

Is there a strike on July 27? I need to take the Stansted express that day. Maybe I should go the day before.


Lets see if it gets suspended?

But going that day before
is a clever way to get there

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https://twitter.com/GMB/status/1547844859246940163

[arista]

I'm stunned Labour hasn't firmly backed this action.
Stop faffing about Starmer and start to stand with the people he should be.

Genuine grievances here not helped by the present Con governments apparent disinterest and arrogance.


Blair advised Starmer
it would help the Conservatives
win the next general election.

[bots]

Blair advised Starmer
it would help the Conservatives
win the next general election.

that is completely irrelevant now :laugh:

[joeysteele]

Blair advised Starmer
it would help the Conservatives
win the next general election.


If Starmer is taking any notice of Blair then Starmer will lose out anyway.
I can't see how standing with people whose support you need to win back should be a problem.

This is what's wrong in part with politics that politicians don't do and support the things they should do and need to.
Fearing any kind of biased media backlash.
So sit on the fence pathetically.

[arista]

If Starmer is taking any notice of Blair then Starmer will lose out anyway.
I can't see how standing with people whose support you need to win back should be a problem.

This is what's wrong in part with politics that politicians don't do and support the things they should do and need to.
Fearing any kind of biased media backlash.
So sit on the fence pathetically.

He said live
on an interview
he is happy to take advice from Tony Blair
in order to win the next general election.

Starmer appears to be like New Labour
was.

[joeysteele]

He said live
on an interview
he is happy to take advice from Tony Blair
in order to win the next general election.

Starmer appears to be like New Labour
was.

Without input from Blair, Labour has got to a stronger position.

Yes, Blair won 3 elections so on a strategy to final success perhaps Blair has ideas on presentation and what to make the main thrust of campaigns.

Although Starmer should know that himself.
He's fought in 2 elections at high level of his own prominence.
He should already know what should have been better to do and know all that was going wrong and ended up wholly negative for Labour.

What wasn't wrong in my view were the policies.
I campaigned in both 2017 and 2019 and people, not just Labour supporters liked the policies.
They disliked intensely the awkward Brexit plans and had turned solidly against Corbyn personally.
Not against his policies however.

If Starmer really clears out, after his trip back to the drawing board on policies, if he does clear out the popular policies of 2017 and 2019.
Then he will put at risk the position Labour is in at this moment.
Because the position we of Labour are in at present is because of a now growing dissent against the Con Party, not any real solid love for Labour.

If Starmer listens to Blair on policymaking then for me that will be a.great mistake.

Blair won 3 elections, however the last one in 2005 with only just over 35% of the votes cast.
Blair was on the way out.

Starmer either is or isn't the leader who has HIS plan or he's not.

Labour doesn't need a ridiculously termed NEW Labour Blair like creation.
It just needs the right policies for NOW and to present them honestly to the voters.

[arista]

That ALSLEF Train Drivers Union
General Secretary Mick Whelan
was live on Ridge
SkyNewsHD

He as not put a number on what the Drivers
pay rise should be?
Roughly £59,000 is the Medium Salary for a Driver.

He is fighting Private Rail Companies
who have been told by the Government not to give
more than 2% increase.


I think he needs to tell Arriva Rail and the others
what he needs.

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The Train Strike
is going ahead. Tomorrow,


Will go onto Thursday AM as well.


The offer is 8% pay increase
RMT has said it's more like 5%

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[bots]

i'm actually with Slim on this one :worry:

[The Slim Reaper]

Welcome, comrade. :laugh:

[_Seth]

I'm using train travel today from the South to the North and there have been delays and cancellations galore. Thankfully I return on 29th but the knock-on effect will still probably cuck me. :(

[arista]

I'm using train travel today from the South to the North and there have been delays and cancellations galore. Thankfully I return on 29th but the knock-on effect will still probably cuck me. :(


Good Luck Seth,


Try to keep us updated
if you find time.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Ex-Mrs LT and the children were due to go to London on train tomorrow and now she is having to drive down!

[bots]

i bet the petrol protestors will be out in force tomorrow too :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

On Thursday Ex-Mrs LT will go and see her best pal of 32 years, in hospital and she knows and her best pal knows that when she says bye and leaves that they will never see each other again - its so very sad :sad:

[Cherie]

On Thursday Ex-Mrs LT will go and see her best pal of 32 years, in hospital and she knows and her best pal knows that when she says bye and leaves that they will never see each other again - its so very sad :sad:

Heart breaking :sad:

[arista]

Another Strike announced August 19th
London Underground


https://news.sky.com/story/london-tube-strike-announced-for-19-august-amid-row-over-jobs-and-pensions-12659565


[Workers on the London Underground
are to strike on 19 August in a row
over jobs and pensions, the RMT union has said.]

[Zizu]

I do wonder if all these strikes should be allowed in these troubled times .

The country ( well the world really ) is practically on its knees ...and it’s getting worse with every day


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[arista]

I do wonder if these strikes should be allowed in these troubled times .

The country ( well the world really ) is practically on its knees ...






Liz Truss will make changes.

[bots]

Liz Truss will make changes.

Truss seems to be really rockin your world Arista. What is it that you like the most? When she dresses up as Maggie?

[arista]

Shadow Transport Minister
Sam Tarry MP
defies Starmer's order to not join the picket line.

He was Live on GMBHD itv
and he is Live on BBC1AM now

[arista]

Truss seems to be really rockin your world Arista. What is it that you like the most? When she dresses up as Maggie?

What she wears does not matter.
Being prime minister is above that.

[Vanessa]

A strike just on the day I'm travelling. Typical :fist:
But I was smart. I came to the airport yesterday and stayed at a hotel :dance:

[Vanessa]

I'm using train travel today from the South to the North and there have been delays and cancellations galore. Thankfully I return on 29th but the knock-on effect will still probably cuck me. :(

It was fine yesterday. But today strike. I had to travel the day before.

[Vanessa]

Really hope there won't be any strikes when I come back :fist:

[arista]

A strike just on the day I'm travelling. Typical :fist:
But I was smart. I came to the airport yesterday and stayed at a hotel :dance:


Yes Worth making the Effort

[arista]

Andrew Haines, Network Rail Executive
claims his deal is not going to the Union Members.
Mick Lynch is not allowing his members to agree the deal.

8% over 2 years
75% Discounted travel.
No changes to the contract.

Something is not right
as Lynch says, they are making changes to the contract?

[arista]

Grant Shapps MP Transport Secretary

keeps saying they will not work between station

Mick Lynch was Live on SkyNewsHD
and said that is not true.

[joeysteele]

Liz Truss will make changes.

Will she??

This is someone who actually in my view made one of the strongest defences and speeches FOR the single market in her forceful campaign to remain in the EU.
That was only 6 years ago.

Now she's turned not into just an acceptance of the referendum but someone who'd throw out long held beliefs to continue in higher profile jobs.
That actually would worry me.


Plus the NI increase.
She says she spoke against it in Cabinet and was never in favour of it.
Yet then voted for it.

So in power she'd support things she knew and believed were wrong to hold her job.

I still love Zizu's humerous post of her more like Diz Truss
Because frankly I think she's another who will say anything with no real meaning to it to hold her job or gain a better one.

In my view however, I sort of hope she does win.
I cannot bear either of these strongly still tarnished still candidates who don't in any way reflect any new beginning of this government at all.
I can see her faltering bigtime in a hard embattling election campaign .
Maybe more badly than Mrs May did too.

Good grief if any Labour leader couldn't take Labour to government either as largest party or majority overall government over this pathetic individual.
Then politics is really in a desperate state indeed.
Moreso than it already seems to be.

Labour has possibly, in my view its most lack lustre and boring leader possible but Truss is someone not to put any faith in whatsoever in my view.
I'm actually surprised you rate her so highly arista.
Is she really one of the best the Cons have to come up with for the whole new fresh start and clean up the Con party and government so desperately now needs.
If she is, all powers that be help the UK then.

[arista]

Yes Joey,
but Truss accepts Brexit now
so back tracking is easy to do

[bots]

Will she??

This is someone who actually in my view made one of the strongest defences and speeches FOR the single market in her forceful campaign to remain in the EU.
That was only 6 years ago.

Now she's turned not into just an acceptance of the referendum but someone who'd throw out long held beliefs to continue in higher profile jobs.
That actually would worry me.


Plus the NI increase.
She says she spoke against it in Cabinet and was never in favour of it.
Yet then voted for it.

So in power she'd support things she knew and believed were wrong to hold her job.

I still love Zizu's humerous post of her more like Diz Truss
Because frankly I think she's another who will say anything with no real meaning to it to hold her job or gain a better one.

In my view however, I sort of hope she does win.
I cannot bear either of these strongly still tarnished still candidates who don't in any way reflect any new beginning of this government at all.
I can see her faltering bigtime in a hard embattling election campaign .
Maybe more badly than Mrs May did too.

Good grief if any Labour leader couldn't take Labour to government either as largest party or majority overall government over this pathetic individual.
Then politics is really in a desperate state indeed.
Moreso than it already seems to be.

Labour has possibly, in my view its most lack lustre and boring leader possible but Truss is someone not to put any faith in whatsoever in my view.
I'm actually surprised you rate her so highly arista.
Is she really one of the best the Cons have to come up with for the whole new fresh start and clean up the Con party and government so desperately now needs.
If she is, all powers that be help the UK then.

The problem here is that she and Sunak are career politicians, so is Starmer. So they will change direction with the wind if they think it will benefit their career. Sunak is already changing his position on tax cuts because he knows persisting with his previous position will cost him the PM job. The whole lot of them stink

[joeysteele]

The problem here is that she and Sunak are career politicians, so is Starmer. So they will change direction with the wind if they think it will benefit their career. Sunak is already changing his position on tax cuts because he knows persisting with his previous position will cost him the PM job. The whole lot of them stink

You're right absolutely.

Also re Starmer.
Labour should be suppporting this rail dispute.
It's about much more than just train drivers.
Starmer knows he should too.
Sometimes an issue needs people standing up to be counted.
This dispute I feel is one such issue.

Starmer also in my view, I know you'll not likely agree with me here.
However I'm really not happy he's to drop the te- nationalising policy.
Although he now says he's pragmatic about it.
He was elected to hopefully keep those plans because he gave the impression he would.

I still hope to see what, if anything he now brings up on that by the election.

He is really annoying me.
He has the intelligence but his presentation skills are next to zero.

I'll not repeat again what I will keep hoping and campaigning for as to politics as to PR.

However, I think the UK has never been so badly served in practice and as to choices in politics as it is now.
Truly awful across the board.

[arista]

https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/london-bus-drivers-to-strike-on-same-day-as-tube-strike-56595/


Worse now
as on the 18th and 19th of August,
London Bus Strike

Same time as Rail/Underground strikes

[arista]

Strikes on Saturday 13th August


https://aslef.org.uk/news/strikes-saturday-13th-august

[arista]

The Rail Strike has started

[arista]

Another National Rail Strike
starts early tomorrow



And on Friday 19th
Tube Strike London.
And a London Bus strike

[arista]

Mick Lynch
has gone on all TV and radio.


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/08/18/08/61472319-0-Network_Rail_issued_this_map_showing_the_expected_ services_on_ro-a-1_1660809042429.jpg

[bots]

The opposition has said the rail strike impasse can be best resolved by the two sides coming together to reach a fair outcome for all.

Speaking to TalkTV this week, shadow chancellor Rachel Reeves said the way to support striking workers "doesn’t involve going on picket lines".

Instead, she said Labour should work to "bring the parties together to get an outcome that is fair to those people who work in the rail sector and elsewhere".

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/08/18/09/61499029-11122977-The_Salford_MP_and_Blackley_and_Broughton_s_Graham _Stringer_defi-a-7_1660813102130.jpg
[Rebecca Long-Bailey,
Salford MP and Blackley and Broughton's Graham Stringer
defiantly joined members of the RMT and TSSA
in Manchester.]



Back benchers
not a problem.

[Gusto Brunt]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/08/18/09/61499029-11122977-The_Salford_MP_and_Blackley_and_Broughton_s_Graham _Stringer_defi-a-7_1660813102130.jpg
[Rebecca Long-Bailey,
Salford MP and Blackley and Broughton's Graham Stringer
defiantly joined members of the RMT and TSSA
in Manchester.]



Back benchers
not a problem.

Rebecca, 'I see dead people'. :joker:

http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/QUYKSWQmkrg/mqdefault.jpg

[arista]

And on Friday 19th
Tube Strike London.
And a London Bus strike, it will be far worse

Then on Saturday 20th
same Rail Strike as today


ITV1HD London

[arista]

Rebecca, 'I see dead people'. :joker:

http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/QUYKSWQmkrg/mqdefault.jpg


Gusto
such a great poster

[arista]

NewsnightHD BBC2

Had Andy Burnham, Mayor Of Manchester
he says the Government should take over
the Railways.
To stop the strikes

[arista]

Women are standing behind Mick Lynch
thats a massive change to that union.

Go back a month
very few women.



SkyNewsHD Live

[arista]

He does not like the term
Suck It Up. from the ITV1 London Reporter, Now working for
Ch4HDNews.

1560706664168316929

[arista]

Mick Wheelan
General Sec, Aslef

Was on Politics Live
BBC2HD today.

He wants around 8% pay rise for his workers.


Next Rail Strike Thursday 15th Sept.

[arista]

RMT to strike on Sat 1st Oct.


then

ASLEF to strike on Weds 5th Oct



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62969423

[arista]

8th Oct., added as Another Rail Strike

[arista]

Mick Lynch RMT Union Leader
has met the new Conservative Transport Secretary
Anne-Marie Trevelyan
he said she was pleasant.

Nothing like Grant Sapps was


He said on SkyNewsHD
outside the Liverpool Labour Event
it is unfortunate
that the Rail Strikes are during the Conservative Conference.

[arista]

Big Rail Strike on Saturday


Limited service

[arista]

One Fella On SkyNewsHD
said he was working in the week
had no idea of this strike.

Another Family with Kids
stuck in London
came from Oslo, to get to the Liverpool Football Match .

He should find a Coach
go by road

[arista]

Another Big Railway Strike.
Today



Aslef Union Boss (GMBHD itv)
says his drivers get £59,000 a year

[arista]

More Railway RMT strikes Monday 3,
Saturday 5th
& Monday 7th of November

Giving all the warning, they must do

[arista]

Mick Lynch is Now Live


New Rail Strikes added Big 48 Hour Strikes


26th of Nov ASLEF Rail on Strike



13th 14th 16th , 17th DEC 2022.



He is also Striking in January 2022 3,4,6 & 7th


SkyNewsHD Live
Played Mick Lynch in Full.

[arista]

[Over 40,000 members across Network
and 14 train operating companies will walk
out on 13, 14, 16 and 17 December
and on 3, 4, 6 and 7 January.

A ban on overtime will also be in force
from 18 December through to 2 January.]


https://news.sky.com/story/fresh-rail-strikes-to-hit-peak-christmas-travel-rmt-union-announces-12753066

[arista]

Rail workers: Drivers working for
12 British train operators
will go on strike on
November 26
in an ongoing dispute over pay

A list of all strikers
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11456585/Strike-mare-Christmas-Banks-supermarkets-face-festive-cash-crisis-security-staff-vote.html

[arista]

RMT Leader Mick Lynch is going to a Meeting with
the Transport Secretary Mark Harper MP
on Thursday.

Mick hopes Mark will sort out this mess
or will he go to war with the unions?


He was just Live on
BBCnewsHD


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/11/22/17/64826299-0-image-m-44_1669138988664.jpg

[bots]

they rail workers are effectively missing out on 1 weeks pay every month they are on strike. How big a pay rise will it take to make that up when the strike finally ends

[arista]

Mick says he is reasonable

And he has stated
Direct your Anger at the Government.
The Government has pulled the plug.

They do not want Cut Backs.

[Crimson Dynamo]

they are a disgrace

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-b5374b70-fe1c-41c2-9d7d-662fa4f8374e.jpeg

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-1ee18777-27fb-4163-b38a-1147606912b7.jpeg

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-fecb3118-ecb8-41f4-92a1-ad9b1f0ace6c.jpeg

[arista]

1595355279188955136

[arista]

Mick Lynch
Has come out of the building
to talk live to the Press

There is One Nutter With a Microphone
Jesus Freak
Stopped him.



Mick a few mins later
is now Live.


He asked Mark Harper MP
to put it down in writing

Now, That I agree with
Put The Deal in writing

[arista]

A lady from GBnewsHD
asked a question.

Mick said, "is Farage in?
If he is, I am not talking."

He answered the Young Lady Reporter from GBnewsHD.

After her
he said any normal news media


Mark Harper MP
has said he will find out,
why there is a blockage?

[arista]

Strike Today

[Which train companies are affected?

Avanti West Coast - no services on the day
Chiltern Railways - no services
CrossCountry - no services
East Midlands Railway - no services
Great Western Railway - an "extremely limited" service
Greater Anglia - "heavily reduced" service
London North Eastern Railway - "limited" service
Northern Trains - no services
Southeastern - no services
Transpennine Express - "very limited" service
West Midlands Trains - no services]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63755411

[arista]

Some Midland Rail Strikes start in 30mins or so.


Ch5HDnews Live.

[arista]

BBC Text :
[Rail unions have rejected an 8% pay offer for workers,
and will press on with plans for Christmas walkouts]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/173B6/production/_127885159_thetelegraph-nc.png.webp

[arista]

It is not 8%

It is 4% this year
then 4 % next year


Plus New Terms and Conditions

[Cherie]

Is that bad that means an 8% pay rise in the next year as this years would be back dated and inflation will fall next year...

[Cherie]

And if you are a train driver on 50k you will be 4K or so better off by the end of next year

[arista]

RMT are going Strike 6PM 24-27 Dec.


just on SkyNewsHD

[joeysteele]

I still support them.
The conditions are still clearly an issue for the Union and losses of jobs.

Plus 4k split really amounts to a fair sized pay cut this year and really who knows what the situation will be next year.

[Crimson Dynamo]

a joke

[Gusto Brunt]

I keep hearing people say Mick is 'very intelligent'. :D That always makes me laugh.

He's done NOTHING to demonstrate any intelligence. I think he's totally thick. But people in the media love to throw out these compliments, like 'very intelligent' when there is no evidence to support it.

LBC's Nick Ferrari was saying Mick is 'very intellient' this morning and Julia Hartley-Brewer said Mick is 'very intelligent'. Seems like they get off praising this Mick IDIOT. :rolleyes:

Bizarre. Very weird.

[bots]

time will tell if he is intelligent or not. Personally, i think the union made a mistake by rejecting the pay offer without asking their members and implementing strikes at a time that families won't get back. People forget that last christmas was bombed by covid too, so we have had years of disruption at christmas

They could have had many more of the public on their side with a little bit of intelligence

[Cherie]

time will tell if he is intelligent or not. Personally, i think the union made a mistake by rejecting the pay offer without asking their members and implementing strikes at a time that families won't get back. People forget that last christmas was bombed by covid too, so we have had years of disruption at christmas

They could have had many more of the public on their side with a little bit of intelligence
'
Its funny because he was on radio a few weeks back saying they wouldn't interrupt Christmas travel and here we are, all the businesses struggling as it is to make ends meet and this won't help, sometimes you have to pick your battles

[bots]

i think the unions are going to regret continuing this strike action. A pay offer is on the table if they accept some restructuring If they don't accept it, then people will work from home and struggling hospitality will go out of business, but the rail companies strategy wont change

[arista]

Mick Lynch is Now Live


New Rail Strikes added Big 48 Hour Strikes


26th of Nov ASLEF Rail on Strike



13th 14th 16th , 17th DEC 2022.



He is also Striking in January 2023 3,4,6 & 7th


SkyNewsHD Live
Played Mick Lynch in Full.

Also added today


Also added by the RMT Union

6PM 24th Dec - to 27th Dec. 2022

[bots]

Also added today


Also added by the RMT Union

6PM 24th Dec - to 27th Dec. 2022



that basically means that people cant travel 24-27th, which kills christmas with family for many

[Crimson Dynamo]

selfish

people will not forget

[The Slim Reaper]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjTIJoZXoAAfWq0?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

Mick Lynch was Live on SkyNewsHD
just before 10AM
he said the Deal was going fine
but then the Government
Insisted Driver Only Trains.

Mick says that is too dangerous
They will not agree.

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-a61b1987-e41b-4f51-be34-c407a39b3ae8.png

[arista]

Mick Lynch
has asked to speak to the Prime Minister.


Of course what has halted all current talks
is Saying
No guards on trains.


Mick will never agree to that.

[user104658]

Probably worth noting that this doesn't just affect rail; the lack of rail availability will mean that anyone who usually commutes by rail but also drives, will now be on the road commuting by car.

If you usually commute into cities (or if you're travelling into a city during commuter hours over the strike period) by car ... I'd double your journey time because the roads are going to be packed. It's bad enough normally at this time of year with all of the Christmas rush.

[bots]

it has to be a very fine balance with strikes. The public are largely sympathetic to the strikers, but if it starts to impact their lives repeatedly, the sympathy can run out very quickly.

The unions and employers need to learn compromise

[user104658]

it has to be a very fine balance with strikes. The public are largely sympathetic to the strikers, but if it starts to impact their lives repeatedly, the sympathy can run out very quickly.

The unions and employers need to learn compromise

I will say again as I said on the nursing strikes page; transport (like medical) staff have an economically vital service that they can withhold. Public support is nice, but ultimately unnecessary. What is Joe Public going to do? They have no power. The politicians aren't going to budge on the grounds of public pressure or "for votes", they evidently do not give a hoot about public opinion, and so public opinion is irrelevant to strike action.

Frankly... the only thing holding many of these workers back from more significant strikes is the feeling that they're letting down a supportive public. If the public turns on them in any meaningful way, that feeling of duty will erode rapidly and these workers will be far more willing to vote for far more substantial strikes.

[bots]

I will say again as I said on the nursing strikes page; transport (like medical) staff have an economically vital service that they can withhold. Public support is nice, but ultimately unnecessary. What is Joe Public going to do? They have no power. The politicians aren't going to budge on the grounds of public pressure or "for votes", they evidently do not give a hoot about public opinion, and so public opinion is irrelevant to strike action.

thats just not true, public opinion is everything in strike action. You probably werent around when strikes were last a big thing in the UK and at that point, public opinion was everything

[user104658]

thats just not true, public opinion is everything in strike action. You probably werent around when strikes were last a big thing in the UK and at that point, public opinion was everything

You've countered your own point there bots; I know that it was important. It was important pre-neoliberalism- the last time something on this scale happened. That's why people think it's still important ... it isn't. If the public was joining these groups in any sort of meaningful protest, then yes that pressure might help. But vague support and well-wishes? I don't think so.

Heck, I think if the public turn vicious on nurses then huge numbers of them will flat-out quit the profession entirely and make the worries about strike action look laughable in comparison. The whole thing is on an absolute knife-edge.

[arista]

it has to be a very fine balance with strikes. The public are largely sympathetic to the strikers, but if it starts to impact their lives repeatedly, the sympathy can run out very quickly.

The unions and employers need to learn compromise


But Mick Lynch
has stated Guards must stay on Trains,
it is too dangerous to remove them.

There is No compromise on that, possible

[arista]

SkyNews Text :
[The Sunday Express has a warning
for union bosses that their strikes
could cost Labour the next election.]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-72e36649-361f-4d09-9f6e-dcc715098e70.png

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/12/13/12/65533363-0-image-a-32_1670933485843.jpg

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/12/13/08/65526667-11531995-image-a-23_1670918527036.jpg
[Passengers crowded on a platform at White City
underground station on the first day of rail strikes]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11531995/Rail-strikes-Britain-plunged-train-strike-hell-day-month-long-chaos-begins.html


['December of discontent' under way
with strikes planned every day of month]


England in a mess

[Beso]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/12/13/08/65526667-11531995-image-a-23_1670918527036.jpg
[Passengers crowded on a platform at White City
underground station on the first day of rail strikes]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11531995/Rail-strikes-Britain-plunged-train-strike-hell-day-month-long-chaos-begins.html


['December of discontent' under way
with strikes planned every day of month]


England in a mess





Mick lynch not to bothered about passenger safety in this photo.

[Vanessa]

Urgh, the underground is affected as well :fist:

[Gusto Brunt]

I can't stand that Mick Lynch. He looks like a really old man of about 80, and should have been retired 20 years ago. Instead the clown is bringing the country to its knees.

Someone put him in an old people's home!! :D

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-a14e272a-8831-4a62-a50d-f42839c2cdb5.jpeg

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-c15d9ca7-5aad-4b74-81ef-6ed8a5b814b8.jpeg

[arista]

[Rail strike will force trains to stop as
early as 8am on Christmas Eve
heaping more misery onto families
travelling to see loved ones]


This terrible for folks
Mick said a few weeks back they would shut down at
around 5PM on the 24th



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11555897/Rail-strike-force-trains-stop-early-8am-Christmas-Eve-piling-misery-families.html

[Vanessa]

At least the buses are running and here in London the underground is working.

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-1c210426-d284-4288-8447-949cc79734b3.jpeg

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-35dd8c5c-ed9a-4fff-964c-c941693dfd84.png

[Gusto Brunt]

Haven't heard that plank Mick Lynch being called 'very intelligent' of late.

I am hoping those who praise this idiot see what I see. A true idiot. A dinosaur.

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-0d8fd9dd-f3fb-4e0c-8cdf-c31b49a49f63.jpeg

[arista]

RMT Striking in January 2023
3,4,6 & 7th

Starts tomorrow.

More RMT Rail Strikes

[arista]

Mick Lynch
Live on ITV1HD London news

Said he phoned all the train operators
asked do they have mandate?
they said no.


He will not agree to no train staff
and he will not agree to ticket offices being removed.


He seems to be talking sense.

[The Slim Reaper]

Mick Lynch
Live on ITV1HD London news

Said he phoned all the train operators
asked do they have mandate?
they said no.


He will not agree to no train staff
and he will not agree to ticket offices being removed.


He seems to be talking sense.

Comrade

https://media.tenor.com/XGH1MX73VK4AAAAM/communiste-communist.gif

[bots]

i think the strikes are yet to warm up. People will start losing their tempers soon

[arista]

I am No Comrade

But Mick is talking Common Sense

Mark Harper Transport Sec
is like a Robot
says nothing new

[The Slim Reaper]

I am No Comrade

But Mick is talking Common Sense

Mark Harper Transport Sec
is like a Robot
says nothing new

That's just what someone pretending not be a comrade would say.

[arista]

Mick Lynch is Talking Calls Live on LBC

Until Midday

[arista]

Mick Voted for Brexit

So Slim
he is most wise

[The Slim Reaper]

Mick Voted for Brexit

So Slim
he is most wise

Do you still think that brexit is going well, comrade?

[arista]

Do you still think that Brexit is going well, comrade?


Of Course, it is not.


When Starmer takes over in 18months or so
it will improve


He understands loads of Labour Voters
demand Brexit to carry on

[The Slim Reaper]

Of Course, it is not.


When Starmer takes over in 18months or so
it will improve


He understands loads of Labour Voters
demand Brexit to carry on

How can he improve something that was always set up to cause damage to the country?

I understand that lots of labour voters wanted it at the time, but recent polling shows 66% want back in to the EU. I know Starmer won't do that, but there is no way it can be improved without aligning closer to the EU, which is the opposite of brexit.

[arista]

How can he improve something that was always set up to cause damage to the country?

I understand that lots of labour voters wanted it at the time, but recent polling shows 66% want back in to the EU. I know Starmer won't do that, but there is no way it can be improved without aligning closer to the EU, which is the opposite of brexit.



We will find out,
in January 2025.

[The Slim Reaper]

We will find out,
in January 2025.

Cool, but I was asking what you think.

[arista]

Cool, but I was asking what you think.

Brexit is our Future
UK will make it work

[The Slim Reaper]

Brexit is our Future
UK will make it work

So let me make a concession. I believe pushing for a 2nd ref was something people like me got seriously wrong, but just wishing it will work isn't going to make it happen, I'm afraid.

Project fear has been proved project the ghost of Christmas future at every turn. you can't make something work, that is by it's very nature, against the interests of the country.

[arista]

So let me make a concession. I believe pushing for a 2nd ref was something people like me got seriously wrong, but just wishing it will work isn't going to make it happen, I'm afraid.

Project fear has been proved project the ghost of Christmas future at every turn. you can't make something work, that is by it's very nature, against the interests of the country.


Yes, wasted alot of time.

[The Slim Reaper]

Yes, wasted alot of time.

Didn't waste any time. You had a brexit government, and even farage and Mogg said there should be a 2nd ref at different times.

[arista]

GMB Union doing another 6 Strikes
dates to come soon

[bots]

Rail strikes have cost the UK more than settling the disputes months ago would have, rail minister Huw Merriman has said.

The strikes have cost the UK more than £1bn, he conceded to a committee of MPs.

However, he said accepting the rail unions pay demands would have set a precedent for other public sector pay disputes.

He also said the future of train operator Transpennine was under review.

When quizzed by the Transport Select Committee, Mr Merriman said the rail strikes cost rail organisations £25m per day on week days, and £15m per day on weekends.

He cited a report that found the strikes had cost the wider UK economy £700m from June to Christmas.

This has added up to a more than £1bn hit to the UK, he conceded to Labour MP Ben Bradshaw.

"If you look at it [through] that particular lens, then absolutely, it's actually ended up costing more than would have been the case if it was just settled," Mr Merriman said.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64317725

--------------------------------------------------------

That sums the government up

[arista]

[As well as a 9% pay rise over two years,
the RDG said the deal also included staff being
able to move between stations when there
are shortages,
as well as introducing part-time and flexible working.
The government, which ultimately holds
the purse strings, has allowed the industry
to put forward new proposals.]

[arista]

Tomorrow 1st of Feb
Loads of Rail Strikes

And London Buses

Wednesday Hell

[bots]

teachers, train drivers, university lecturers and civil servants are all going on strike tomorrow

[Vanessa]

My bus is not affected :dance:

[Crimson Dynamo]

The world has changed – strikes don’t work now

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2023/01/30/TELEMMGLPICT000323742352_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqeCwD--eYyhoJsbXUMQsWbSj-IxjuH9xTPGHnxJeUfYo.jpeg?imwidth=600

One cannot read or hear the news now without hearing of some group of workers going on strike. People evoke the 1970s – a decade synonymous with industrial unrest – and especially, given the many disputes at the moment, the time when a culture of strikes effectively brought down a government: the Winter of Discontent of 1979. Those of us of a certain age who recall those days, however, fail to see the similarities.

In 1979, more than 13 million people were members of trade unions in the UK; today that number has almost exactly halved. That autumn, I was waiting to go up to university and lead a life of comparative idleness, which was just as well, as the country was more or less gridlocked.

As workers demanded pay rises of between 15 and 20 per cent, footage appeared on television night after night of urban streets lined with overflowing rubbish bins, because council workers were on strike.

It was a cold and snowy winter, and often the roads were not cleared so it was hard to get around. The most emotive problem was a strike in the North West by gravediggers, leading to the dead remaining unburied. NHS ancillary workers blockaded hospitals, and only serious emergencies were admitted. A lorry drivers’ strike meant goods started to disappear from supermarket shelves, and petrol became in short supply. The consequent public rage – fed by a complacent statement by then prime minister Jim Callaghan that the tabloids headlined “Crisis? What crisis?” – brought down his administration and installed Mrs Thatcher, who promised to reform the laws affecting trades unions.

In the 1970s, union leaders were household names for one very good reason: they controlled whether or not Britain functioned. Nobody voted for them, in the case of many unions not even their members. And in most cases, those members were forced to join: if they didn’t have a union card, they didn’t work. This meant that the unions, and not management, controlled entry to many trades. This was not only true of miners, dockers, train drivers and bin men; actors used to have to have an Equity card if they wanted to work on the stage, with the additional absurdity that they couldn’t get an Equity card unless they had worked on the stage.

Until 1986, this very newspaper, like most of the rest of Fleet Street, operated a closed shop, which meant that to work for the business, you had to join a union: if it hadn’t operated one, it would never have been published. I had to join the National Union of Journalists for, I think, a month to have the honour of working for it, and pay for the privilege. The then owners, recognising the technological revolution taking place in journalism, along with most of our competitors, did away with that closed shop, and with conventional hot-metal printing controlled by the unions. It was impossible to get a job “in the print” unless you were in one of the print unions. It was hard to get into the print unions unless a father, brother, uncle or brother-in-law was already in it. That workforce lacked women or people of colour, whose absence was no wish of the paper’s management. Any journalist who ventured into the printing works was forbidden to do anything but make suggestions about changes that could be made to the typesetting, and hope the printer on the other side of the demarcation line would obligingly make the change.

No trade exemplified better the restrictive practices that could be enforced by unions, and which prevented managements from being able to manage. The closed shop meant that when the usually unelected union leaders decided, usually by equally undemocratic methods, to go out on strike, everybody obeyed. It was “one out, all out”. Anyone who refused to answer the call was termed a “scab” or a “blackleg”. They were subject to intimidation, sometimes violence, and sent to Coventry – after the strike was over, no one would speak to them.

This primitive, often savage, culture was famously and brilliantly parodied in the Boulting Brothers’ 1959 film I’m All Right Jack, starring Peter Sellers as the boneheaded fanatical shop steward Fred Kite. The following year a far more serious and grim take on the culture was depicted in The Angry Silence, in which Richard Attenborough is a worker terrorised for refusing to strike. Neither film takes any liberties with the truth, and anyone unclear of what industrial action entailed in the era before Mrs Thatcher tamed the unions should watch them for enlightenment.

But in the 20 years before she did that, things got worse. Sympathy strikes – the mass coordination of which had in 1926 enabled the General Strike – would close down businesses whose management had no connection with the dispute, and force out on-strike workers with no quarrel with their employers. For example, in the Winter of Discontent workers for Cadbury Schweppes at Bournville – mainly women – walked out and prevented deliveries by strike-breaking lorry drivers. Similarly, some oil refinery workers came out to support the tanker drivers.

They were a gift to that minority of trade unionists who were motivated not by the interests of the workers but by political ideology. They wished to advance an ultra-hard Left agenda that could destabilise a government – Labour or Conservative – that refused to do their bidding; or (when aimed at private enterprise) could seek to launch an attack on capitalism. The most recognisable manifestation to the general public of these extremists was the flying picket, someone with no connection to a particular place of work but who would be drafted in from elsewhere to intimidate any workers who sought to cross a picket line. These people, usually thugs and bullies, are now a thing of the past thanks to Thatcher.

These days when the train drivers, or ambulance drivers, or driving examiners, or teachers, or postmen, or nurses, or even (as is threatened) junior doctors go on strike, they have to give notice. In the age of Fred Kite, there was the wildcat strike. Members could be instructed to “down tools”, which was not quite the same as a strike, but it meant they stopped work while shop stewards and management had an argument.

Or there was the work to rule, in which members worked exactly according to the union rule book and therefore, usually, produced less; and an even worse outcome was achieved by the “go-slow”, which did exactly what it says on the label. The one weapon at the management’s disposal, if it felt the unions were being entirely unreasonable, was the lockout, in which they would stop workers coming in until they began to be starved into submission and were prepared to resume negotiations. As the new generation of strikers are finding, you don’t get paid and can’t draw benefits. Unions can give strike pay, but resources for most of them are scarce: they can’t fund a long strike, and they can’t afford to pay strikers anything like what they usually earn.

This is a problem for today’s strikers. Many of them are middle class, and have mortgages and other responsibilities to fund. Strikes used to run for weeks or months – the 1984-85 miners’ strike that buried the National Union of Mineworkers lasted for well over a year – but now they are on odd days. This is partly a middle-class observance of the rules, partly that workers with a professional ethos have their consciences pricked by the thought of causing undue suffering to the public, and partly because of the cost of striking.

But there is another key difference between now and the prehistoric era, exemplified by the train strikes. Many have been inconvenienced by them, which was the plan, but many have not. There is now a work from home culture that has prevented many businesses from grinding to a halt. Similarly, the postal workers have made little impact in a country devoted to the email and that has a diverse parcel delivery sector. It is not just the scope of trades unionism and union law that have changed since the 1970s: the world has, technology has, attitudes have. And the shrunken unions will find before too long that fighting 21st-century battles with 19th-century weapons simply won’t work.

[bots]

thatcher made secondary picketing illegal, and that broke the strikers, and labour did nothing to change that when they were in power

[arista]

My bus is not affected :dance:


Double check Tomorrow


Bloody Delays.

[arista]

Border Staff On Strike


More Terrorists can ENTER

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fn39xqjXkAA_zeP?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

Drivers on Strike Today
ASLEF Union

80% of Trains Halted today.

[arista]

RMT Union
has now Suspended all Strikes

Due to a New Pay offer.


Ch4HDnews Live

[arista]

RMT have accepted the New Pay Offer


SkyNewsHD/BBCnewsHD/LBC


14% pay rise for the lower paid workers.


March the 30th and April the 1st
are still 2 more strikes

[arista]

RMT Union March the 30th and April the 1st

Strikes are now Suspended


SkyNewsHD

[arista]

SkyNews Text:
[Spoil sports" is the headline on the front
of The Sun, which reports on the latest round
of rail strikes which will hit the FA Cup,
Epsom Derby and Eurovision.

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-3ae1f07e-99c8-4201-8bd7-0ffdaa623fbd.png

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/D433/production/_129532345_croppeddmpage1.png.webp

[arista]

1654245955036753924


At the End,
the Minister stated no job loses
what he means is all ticket staff are to be moved
to other parts of the station,

[arista]

Industrial action has been announced on the following days:

Friday 12 May (action by ASLEF union)

Saturday 13 May (action by RMT union)

[arista]

Then

Wednesday 31 May (action by ASLEF union)

Saturday 3 June (action by ASLEF union)

https://www.nationalrail.co.uk/travel-information/industrial-action/

The train companies that will be impacted are:

Avanti West Coast

c2c (Saturday 13 May only)

Chiltern Railways

CrossCountry

East Midlands Railway

Gatwick Express

Great Northern

GWR

Greater Anglia (including Stansted Express)

Heathrow Express

LNER

London Northwestern Railway

Northern

South Western Railway

Southeastern

Southern

Thameslink

TransPennine Express

West Midlands Railway

[Vanessa]

That's ok. As long as they're running on the bank holiday.

[arista]

New added today

Friday 2nd of June RMT Union strike


[Wednesday 31 May (action by ASLEF union)

Friday 2 June (action by RMT union)

Saturday 3 June (action by ASLEF union)]

[Vanessa]

Ok. I'll make sure I don't travel on those dates.

[arista]

The Striked Today

But they are also Striking,
Saturday World Cup Final. Day.

https://news.sky.com/story/train-strikes-three-new-dates-for-industrial-action-announced-by-aslef-including-on-fa-cup-final-date-12867398

[Vanessa]

I haven't been able to go to the seaside because of the strikes :fist:
Going next week instead.

[arista]

I haven't been able to go to the seaside because of the strikes :fist:
Going next week instead.


Yes the buggers.

Still no change from the Government 5% offer

[user104658]

AI will soon drive the trains,
tickets paid
by AUTOMATED BARRIERS
each stop
No more workers
for strikes
Sign Of The Times