Lewis Hamilton and F1 condemn Nelson Piquet's racially abusive language about Hamilto

[Beso]

Lewis Hamilton has said "archaic mindsets need to change" and have no place in Formula 1 after three-time world champion Nelson Piquet used racially abusive language about him.

The 69-year-old Brazilian, who won the world title in 1981, 1983 and 1987, used a racially offensive term to refer to Hamilton in a podcast.

Piquet has been condemned by Formula 1, Hamilton's Mercedes team and the FIA.

"It's more than language," said seven-time world champion Hamilton.

"These archaic mindsets need to change and have no place in our sport. I've been surrounded by these attitudes and targeted my whole life.

"There has been plenty of time to learn. Time has come for action."

Piquet was discussing the accident between Hamilton and Red Bull driver Max Verstappen on the first lap of last year's British Grand Prix.

[Crimson Dynamo]

what did he specifically say?

[Niamh.]

I could take a guess by his age that maybe it's the words previously used to describe a mixed race person? He maybe isn't aware that that way to describe a mixed race person isn't really acceptable anymore, that's just may speculation though, I have no idea what he said

[Niamh.]

Ohhh no sorry, it's actually the worst one you can think of, bloody hell

[Alf]

I'm quite concerned with Hamilton's language in that piece.

"Mindsets need to change" that's very authoritarian language

"Time has come for action" That's very threatening language.

[Beso]

He used a slang term that everyone thinks means the N word, what it actually means is small, or young, black person..

The Portuguese word for black is negro, but the Portuguese use slang or variations of words to mean other things...he described Hamilton as a neguinho which in portuguese slang means young, or small black man.

[arista]

what did he specifically say?


The Old Git called him the N word


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10960473/Shocking-footage-emerges-Nelson-Piquet-calling-Lewis-Hamilton-N-word.html


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[Niamh.]

I'm quite concerned with Hamilton's language in that piece.

"Mindsets need to change" that's very authoritarian language

"Time has come for action" That's very threatening language.

You cherry picked those two sentences when in the whole paragraph he's talking about attitudes within his sport, a sport where he's literally the only black/mixed race driver. Apparently, Nelson Piquet referred to him by the "N" word, that's disgraceful and highly unprofessional. Lewis is more than allowed to want to help change attitudes like that towards himself (and black people in general) in his own sport. His reaction to it actually was very restrained and dignified imo.

[Cherie]

The Brazilian used a derogatory term in an interview that was given in November last year when speaking about the 2021 British GP.

Piquet, whose daughter Kelly is in a relationship with Red Bull's Max Verstappen, slammed Hamilton's driving at Silverstone where he made contact with the Dutchman on an explosive first lap.

Make of that what you will

[Crimson Dynamo]

If this was in November why is hamilton ranting about this now?

or did i miss something

[Beso]

If this was in November why is hamilton ranting about this now?

or did i miss something

It's the british gran prix this weekend and the incident between verstappen and Hamilton happened at last years british gp

[Niamh.]

If this was in November why is hamilton ranting about this now?

or did i miss something

Lewis Hamilton has said “the time has come for action” after a video emerged with the three-time world champion Nelson Piquet using racist language when speaking about the British driver. Piquet used the term in an interview that was conducted last year but which was released publicly on Monday night.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/jun/28/uncceptable-f1-nelson-piquet-under-fire-for-racist-epithet-about-lewis-hamilton

[Crimson Dynamo]

Lewis Hamilton has said “the time has come for action” after a video emerged with the three-time world champion Nelson Piquet using racist language when speaking about the British driver. Piquet used the term in an interview that was conducted last year but which was released publicly on Monday night.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/jun/28/uncceptable-f1-nelson-piquet-under-fire-for-racist-epithet-about-lewis-hamilton

ah that explains it

cant stand hamilton

[Alf]

You cherry picked those two sentences when in the whole paragraph he's talking about attitudes within his sport, a sport where he's literally the only black/mixed race driver. Apparently, Nelson Piquet referred to him by the "N" word, that's disgraceful and highly unprofessional. Lewis is more than allowed to want to help change attitudes like that towards himself (and black people in general) in his own sport. His reaction to it actually was very restrained and dignified imo.Then his beef is between him and Mr Piquet. Why does he want "mindsets" to change in general? And what are his actions he's proposing to install his control of people's minds?

[Niamh.]

ah that explains it

cant stand hamilton

I'm not a massive fan of his either but I agree with him here and I think he's reacted in a very restrained manner actually

[Liam-]

I could take a guess by his age that maybe it's the words previously used to describe a mixed race person? He maybe isn't aware that that way to describe a mixed race person isn't really acceptable anymore, that's just may speculation though, I have no idea what he said

Ohhh no sorry, it's actually the worst one you can think of, bloody hell

And this is what happens when people automatically think of excuses to why people are racist

[Niamh.]

And this is what happens when people automatically think of excuses to why people are racistI wasn't excusing him, I barely even heard of the guy, I was just speculating

[Mystic Mock]

Then his beef is between him and Mr Piquet. Why does he want "mindsets" to change in general? And what are his actions he's proposing to install his control of people's minds?

Personally I will meet you halfway on this.

Do I agree with Piquet's comment? No.

Do I think that he is clearly biased to Verstappen because of him dating his (Piquet) daughter? Yes.

Do I think that Piquet is a prick for using the N word? Yes.

Do I also think that encouraging more hate towards Hamilton for no reason is disgusting? Yes.

However I do agree with you that people need to stop judging racist language as the same as the KKK, because if we're being real here there are different scales of racism (and sometimes non-existent) racism that gets treated the same as someone who would kill a black person because of the colour of their skin, in my eyes I feel that the latter is far, far worse, but to some people they treat it like they're both just as bad.

Imo some people are just douchebags, that's life and none of us can do anything to change that, all any of us can do without bringing censorship into it (which I never support censorship) is explain to them why they're wrong for saying racist stuff.

And going on a wild tangent here, but I still don't like how Kurt Zouma got away with drop kicking a Cat because according to Antonio "why aren't people up in arms like this about racist abuse?" And to me it's quite simple, the one sees a guy behave like a psychopath in front of his child, chasing a Cat around the Kitchen (after already drop kicking the Cat) and then slaps the Cat around the head. While the other incident is someone saying the N word, which yes it's a really bad word to deliberately use to offend a black person, I'm not denying that, but you've got problems if you seriously think saying the N word is worse than physically attacking a Cat.

I'm prepared for people to disagree with me on this, but I honestly think in these cases actions definitely speak louder than words.

[Beso]

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[Liam-]

Racism is racism, something being the least racist version of something, is still racist, trying to make light of it by basically saying ‘well, at least he didn’t kill a black guy’ is so backward it’s unreal, a very typical white response though, thinking a black person should let racism go because it isn’t that bad to you

[thesheriff443]

Unfortunately there is no cure for racism and I can’t see there being one
Some countries are far more racist than other’s

[Swan]

Racism is racism, something being the least racist version of something, is still racist, trying to make light of it by basically saying ‘well, at least he didn’t kill a black guy’ is so backward it’s unreal, a very typical white response though, thinking a black person should let racism go because it isn’t that bad to you

White Liam over here being the voice for black people. Your opinion, as a white person, means as much as any other white persons opinion, not sure why you think you're a step above on this?!

[Alf]

Racism is racism, something being the least racist version of something, is still racist, trying to make light of it by basically saying ‘well, at least he didn’t kill a black guy’ is so backward it’s unreal, a very typical white response though, thinking a black person should let racism go because it isn’t that bad to you"A very typical White response?"

Is there also such a thing as a "Very typical Black response" or would that be considered racist?

[Swan]

Personally I will meet you halfway on this.

Do I agree with Piquet's comment? No.

Do I think that he is clearly biased to Verstappen because of him dating his (Piquet) daughter? Yes.

Do I think that Piquet is a prick for using the N word? Yes.

Do I also think that encouraging more hate towards Hamilton for no reason is disgusting? Yes.

However I do agree with you that people need to stop judging racist language as the same as the KKK, because if we're being real here there are different scales of racism (and sometimes non-existent) racism that gets treated the same as someone who would kill a black person because of the colour of their skin, in my eyes I feel that the latter is far, far worse, but to some people they treat it like they're both just as bad.

Imo some people are just douchebags, that's life and none of us can do anything to change that, all any of us can do without bringing censorship into it (which I never support censorship) is explain to them why they're wrong for saying racist stuff.

And going on a wild tangent here, but I still don't like how Kurt Zouma got away with drop kicking a Cat because according to Antonio "why aren't people up in arms like this about racist abuse?" And to me it's quite simple, the one sees a guy behave like a psychopath in front of his child, chasing a Cat around the Kitchen (after already drop kicking the Cat) and then slaps the Cat around the head. While the other incident is someone saying the N word, which yes it's a really bad word to deliberately use to offend a black person, I'm not denying that, but you've got problems if you seriously think saying the N word is worse than physically attacking a Cat.

I'm prepared for people to disagree with me on this, but I honestly think in these cases actions definitely speak louder than words.

Absolutely spot on post. Agree with all this.

[Mystic Mock]

Racism is racism, something being the least racist version of something, is still racist, trying to make light of it by basically saying ‘well, at least he didn’t kill a black guy’ is so backward it’s unreal, a very typical white response though, thinking a black person should let racism go because it isn’t that bad to you

I think you've missed my point.

I am saying that people are so obsessed with people saying something racist than they are with black people actually being murdered because of the colour of their skin.

And to me I think that is backward, but maybe that's very white of me who knows.:joker:

Personally I don't care what the prejudice is, I feel like it should be addressed if it's verbal, but do I think it should be involving the Media and law enforcement more than actual violent crimes? No, look at how little coverage that Azeem Rafiq in the Cricket has had lately, and there is alleged violent outbursts in that case.

[Liam-]

White Liam over here being the voice for black people. Your opinion, as a white person, means as much as any other white persons opinion, not sure why you think you're a step above on this?!

Not the voice for black people at all, just reminding my fellow whites that just because we might not find something ‘that racist’ doesn’t mean it doesn’t affect black people just as much as the ‘more serious racism’

[Mystic Mock]

White Liam over here being the voice for black people. Your opinion, as a white person, means as much as any other white persons opinion, not sure why you think you're a step above on this?!

That is ironic actually.:laugh:

Tbf though it's his opinion, I personally think any race can have an opinion on any issue they want, even if the opinion might be something you disagree with.

Personally I think Piquet should at least face a warning for his comment by whoever he is currently working for, maybe even a suspension, but I don't know if I support his life being tarnished irreparably like what tends to happen nowadays.

Imo educating these people is the way to go, but maybe that's too rational in 2022?

[Mystic Mock]

Not the voice for black people at all, just reminding my fellow whites that just because we might not find something ‘that racist’ doesn’t mean it doesn’t affect black people just as much as the ‘more serious racism’

Tbf I never said that it doesn't affect Lewis Hamilton in this particular case, and personally speaking I've never liked the treatment that Hamilton has received in F1 by some of the fans.

I just think that witch hunting people because they say horrible things could lead to a slippery slope in the future, I just think it's important that legally speaking we have a hierarchy of how severe a crime is.

Because I think the fact that this country is more willing to give a second chance to rapists than they would be Piquet is ****ed up imo.

[Nicky91]

i stand with Nelson on this

maybe he shouldn't have said the N word, ok


he has very good points, Hamilton always acts like a stupid crybaby when things aren't going his way


even his former teammate Bottas dislikes him, especially the way how he has been used as a pawn for him

[Niamh.]

i stand with Nelson on this

maybe he shouldn't have said the N word, ok


he has very good points, Hamilton always acts like a stupid crybaby when things aren't going his way


even his former teammate Bottas dislikes him, especially the way how he has been used as a pawn for him

The whole thing is about him using the N word

[Beso]

I have changed my mind on this, I think piquet was being racist.

[Alf]

I have changed my mind on this, I think piquet was being racist.And what now?

Should people in powerful positions in life go about the action of controlling everybody else's mindset because Mr Piquet used a racist term?

[Beso]

And what now?

Should people in powerful positions in life go about the action of controlling everybody else's mindset because Mr Piquet used a racist term?

Oh no, certainly not.

Hamiltin should deal with this personally and not lump everyone in the same bracket.

[Cherie]

He has apologised and said the word he used was mistranslated

Make of that what you will

[Mystic Mock]

i stand with Nelson on this

maybe he shouldn't have said the N word, ok


he has very good points, Hamilton always acts like a stupid crybaby when things aren't going his way


even his former teammate Bottas dislikes him, especially the way how he has been used as a pawn for him

Tbf in F1 nobody is as much of a crybaby as Verstappen, but I bet Piquet wouldn't call him slurs or any random insults because we're meant to support the brat according to the media.

[Niamh.]

Tbf in F1 nobody is as much of a crybaby as Verstappen, but I bet Piquet wouldn't call him slurs or any random insults because we're meant to support the brat according to the media.

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[Mystic Mock]

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Going off topic for a second, Steve Harvey always makes me laugh on Family Feud.:laugh:

[Nicky91]

Tbf in F1 nobody is as much of a crybaby as Verstappen, but I bet Piquet wouldn't call him slurs or any random insults because we're meant to support the brat according to the media.

well technically Toto Wolff more than Lewis ok fair enough


Mikey noooo :rolleyes: still remains so funny in the last race of last season :joker: :joker:

[Nicky91]

poor Michael Masi getting worked out just because Mercedes didn't want him anymore

well thank you FIA for new car rules, and Verstappen is getting support from Leclerc in terms of not changing anything anymore for this season, since Sainz and Russell complained about too much shaking in the cars

[Zizu]

poor Michael Masi getting worked out just because Mercedes didn't want him anymore

well thank you FIA for new car rules, and Verstappen is getting support from Leclerc in terms of not changing anything anymore for this season, since Sainz and Russell complained about too much shaking in the cars


I love that Mercedes are having an horrendous season after they got that poor guy sacked :)


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[bots]

Lewis Hamilton has called for "older voices" with offensive views to be refused a platform on which to make comments.

His plea came after Nelson Piquet made a racist remark about him, and following provocative remarks from Bernie Ecclestone about Vladimir Putin.

Mercedes driver Hamilton said: "Discrimination is not something we should be giving a platform.

"We need people to be bringing people together."

He added: "We are all the same and the comments we are seeing are not helpful."

Hamilton's remarks come in the context of triple world champion Piquet using a racially offensive term to refer to the seven-time champion in a podcast that emerged this week.

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So lets have no discrimination, but don't let the old folks talk :laugh:

[Alf]

Lewis Hamilton has called for "older voices" with offensive views to be refused a platform on which to make comments.

His plea came after Nelson Piquet made a racist remark about him, and following provocative remarks from Bernie Ecclestone about Vladimir Putin.

Mercedes driver Hamilton said: "Discrimination is not something we should be giving a platform.

"We need people to be bringing people together."

He added: "We are all the same and the comments we are seeing are not helpful."

Hamilton's remarks come in the context of triple world champion Piquet using a racially offensive term to refer to the seven-time champion in a podcast that emerged this week.

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So lets have no discrimination, but don't let the old folks talk :laugh:Hamilton prefers the Nazi method of dealing with situations.

The reason he wants to use the method of silencing them is because he doesn't believe he can beat them in debate. He believes that he should have a platform for his opinion but they shouldn't for theirs and rather than debate them he believes people should have a higher power to silence oposing opinions to his.

[bots]

Lewis Hamilton has criticised spectators at the Austrian Grand Prix for cheering when he crashed in qualifying at the Red Bull Ring.

Hamilton went off at Turn Seven, close to grandstands packed with Dutch fans of his 2021 title rival Max Verstappen.

"I was going through a bunch of stuff in the crash, but to hear it afterwards you know... I don't agree with any of that, no matter what," he said.

"A driver could have been in hospital, and you are going to cheer that?"

The incident left Hamilton 10th in qualifying, although he was promoted to ninth on the grid for Saturday's sprint event after a penalty for Red Bull's Sergio Perez.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/62110154

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poor him

[Nicky91]

thats what crowds are for, to cheer

[Mystic Mock]

Hamilton prefers the Nazi method of dealing with situations.

The reason he wants to use the method of silencing them is because he doesn't believe he can beat them in debate. He believes that he should have a platform for his opinion but they shouldn't for theirs and rather than debate them he believes people should have a higher power to silence oposing opinions to his.

Tbf I'll be surprised if Hamilton couldn't beat a guy that uses the n-word about that particular word and why it's wrong to use it.

Didn't Piquet allegedly also use homophobic language about Hamilton as well?

Personally I wouldn't silence him on it, but I do think he should be aware that freedom of speech works both ways and that some people rightly won't like him calling Hamilton the n-word.

[Mystic Mock]

Lewis Hamilton has criticised spectators at the Austrian Grand Prix for cheering when he crashed in qualifying at the Red Bull Ring.

Hamilton went off at Turn Seven, close to grandstands packed with Dutch fans of his 2021 title rival Max Verstappen.

"I was going through a bunch of stuff in the crash, but to hear it afterwards you know... I don't agree with any of that, no matter what," he said.

"A driver could have been in hospital, and you are going to cheer that?"

The incident left Hamilton 10th in qualifying, although he was promoted to ninth on the grid for Saturday's sprint event after a penalty for Red Bull's Sergio Perez.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/62110154

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poor him

Tbf I don't get why people are cheering bad crashes?

[Zizu]

Tbf I don't get why people are cheering bad crashes?


I feel the same - though it wasn’t a crash as such .. he just kinda slid sideways into the padded barriers .. very slight, if any , car damage . There was never any chance of injury - the cars are uber safe these days anyways


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[Mystic Mock]

I feel the same - though it wasn’t a crash as such .. he just kinda slid sideways into the padded barriers .. very slight, if any , car damage . There was never any chance of injury - the cars are uber safe these days anyways


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Thankfully it ended up not being too bad.

But I do honestly think that some Hamilton & Verstappen fans are taking the rivalry to an unhealthy level.

[James]

Cheering crashes is cynical, in my opinion.

[Zizu]

Thankfully it ended up not being too bad.

But I do honestly think that some Hamilton & Verstappen fans are taking the rivalry to an unhealthy level.


They simply do not like each other at all

Maybe Hamilton simply isn’t used to someone standing up to him ..

He complains a lot about Max but he’s made the exact same ‘risky moves himself against other drivers -throughout his whole career .

What goes round ... comes round


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[Alf]

I remember where I was and what I was doing when Ayrton Senna was killed. It's just one of those things you'll remember for the rest of your life, like when Diana was killed.

[Zizu]

I remember where I was and what I was doing when Ayrton Senna was killed. It's just one of those things you'll remember for the rest of your life, like when Diana was killed.


Yeah and John Lennon :(


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[Alf]

Yeah and John Lennon :(


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProDon't remember that, I was only 2.

[Zizu]

Don't remember that, I was only 2.


Jesus .. I was on our honeymoon. !


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[Niamh.]

I remember where I was and what I was doing when Ayrton Senna was killed. It's just one of those things you'll remember for the rest of your life, like when Diana was killed.And Kurt [emoji25]

[Alf]

Jesus .. I was on our honeymoon. !


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[Mystic Mock]

They simply do not like each other at all

Maybe Hamilton simply isn’t used to someone standing up to him ..

He complains a lot about Max but he’s made the exact same ‘risky moves himself against other drivers -throughout his whole career .

What goes round ... comes round


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The feud has definitely been fun to watch imo, even if I find Verstappen to be a bit of a psychopath.

But I honestly think that some fans (not all) would be glad if Verstappen or Hamilton (depending on which side you're on) got badly hurt in a crash.

On Social Media sites where I do catch some of these people, don't out and out say it, but you can tell that they love it if one of those two drivers gets hurt.

Thankfully though I do feel like most people treat it like a healthy rivalry.

[Mystic Mock]

And Kurt [emoji25]

I always remember being in my Bedroom when my Mom shouted up to me that Chester Bennington from Linkin Park had passed away.

[Nicky91]

The feud has definitely been fun to watch imo, even if I find Verstappen to be a bit of a psychopath.

But I honestly think that some fans (not all) would be glad if Verstappen or Hamilton (depending on which side you're on) got badly hurt in a crash.

On Social Media sites where I do catch some of these people, don't out and out say it, but you can tell that they love it if one of those two drivers gets hurt.

Thankfully though I do feel like most people treat it like a healthy rivalry.

no one gets badly hurt anymore in current times though


look at Zhou, the race before a very nasty crash, walked away unharmed too, the 'Halo' device is really a lifesaver and this weekend he was racing again as if nothing happened



Lewis is just a big crybaby drama queen, and Toto is even worse :laugh3: no mikey no pathetic mercedes, would be better for the sport if they wouldn't be in it anymore but asap retiring for good

and that Russell is even worse than Lewis, jeez didn't know that was possible :joker: but yeah he fits in well with those overrated theatrical idiots

[Beso]

Most people will remember they were staring at their phones next time someone memorable goes.

[Niamh.]

Most people will remember they were staring at their phones next time someone memorable goes.

true :laugh: