Conservative Party Conference Oct., 2022, Birmingham

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A chance to meet Prime Minister Liz Truss.
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And her lovely Party members.

Some meetings may take play on Saturday,

[Cherie]

Who will want to turn up

[Cherie]

Rishi is not going

[arista]

Rishi is not going


Well is his Master plan
to sell his North England Home with Brand New Swimming Pool


And Bugger off to LA?
Re Apply for a Green Card..........................


And Sod UK politics

[arista]

Who will want to turn up


All of the MP's
they are standing with their Guns for 2 years

Not changing the Money Chaos.

Not going back to Parliament on Thursday or Friday.

[bots]

it will be held in a bubble of adoration, but we all know the majority of tory mp's will turn on her sooner rather than later. She is going to get the record for the shortest PM ever

[joeysteele]

We are likely to get to see the Chancellor and PM then here.
As it appears they don't want to be seen or heard anywhere at this moment in time.

[The Slim Reaper]

Hope Birmingham has a big enough supply of fridges.

[arista]

We are likely to get to see the Chancellor and PM then here.
As it appears they don't want to be seen or heard anywhere at this moment in time.


Yes and on the 2 Sunday AM Political Shows

SkyNewsHD live 8:30AM
BBC1HD 8:30AM

Also Times Radio (Free online) 10AM Adam Boulton

[arista]

Hope Birmingham has a big enough supply of fridges.


Yes, Johnson preferred the Big Dairy Fridge
than, Piers Morgan then on GMBHD itv.
That was to go off-air 30mins later


He could hear his Voice: "Morgan Shouting"
on the Reporter's Phone,
Scared Johnson

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[arista]

Rishi is not going


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[bots]

she can't even support her local retailers by buying a large coffee

[GoldHeart]

she can't even support her local retailers by buying a large coffee

Pitiful

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Many MP's are arriving today
as tomorrow, the Train Strike is worse

[Oliver_W]

Birmingham? But don't conferences need like, running water and electricity?

[arista]

Birmingham? But don't conferences need like, running water and electricity?

Yes.

Birmingham
has many local conservatives,
unlike Liverpool or Manchester.


MP's need to Drive
as Rail Strikes can stop them
tomorrow.

[arista]

Extra Early BBC1HD Sunday has Truss Live
again. Starts 8:30AM

No "Fake talking" Comedian/Activist this time

Stupid Laura made an error having him on her first show,
he took the piss.

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Iain Martin
no sign of a U Turn, yet

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https://twitter.com/CatharineHoey/status/1576143965287424000



The Daily Mirror Ass holes

said Sorry.


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/01/mirror-apologises-for-using-picture-of-wrong-person-in-kwasi-kwarteng-story

[arista]

Michael Gove MP
is Going
and doing 8 Fringe events.


Ch4HDnews debate

[bots]

MTVN's favourite event of the year

[arista]

The Online Paper:

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PM Truss meeting the LGBT Conservatives

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Early around 8:45AM

[arista]

Her Badge UK/Ukraine flags

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[arista]

Adam Boulton Live on Time Radio DAB and free online

Talking to Simon Clarke MP
[MP for Middlesbrough South and East Cleveland.
Secretary of State]


He told Adam
he will answer the way he wants
or it's no point,

Also
Any MP's Voting against the new plan (Parliament)
could lose their Whip.

[arista]

Protest outside the Birmingham

Guido Fawks senior reporter 10:13AM Chris Galgie
said when Liz Truss meets MP's she is relaxed
but when talking to the media she Freezes UP

On Portillo Live GBnewsHD

Great new Sunday 2 hour show

[joeysteele]

Adam Boulton Live on Time Radio DAB and free online

Talking to Simon Clarke MP
[MP for Middlesbrough South and East Cleveland.
Secretary of State]


He told Adam
he will answer the way he wants
or it's no point,

Also
Any MP's Voting against the new plan (Parliament)
could lose their Whip.



They know then there's a lot of Con MPs not supporting her plans to make that threat.

What a democracy where elected people by the people are threatened at all if they DARE vote against something they think and believe is wrong.

Of course Liz Gross did so when she voted FOR the NI increase to hold her higher salary and Ministerial position.
What a farce.

[bots]

the threats only work when they are made from a position of strength. Truss knows that she has to placate the tory mp's or she will be out on her ass

[Oliver_W]

Theresa May called an early election because she believed she could crush Labour, but when wasn't the last time an election had to be called early because the PM was so ****?

[Gusto Brunt]

It's gonna be something to watch, all right.

[arista]

They know then there's a lot of Con MPs not supporting her plans to make that threat.

What a democracy where elected people by the people are threatened at all if they DARE vote against something they think and believe is wrong.

Of course Liz Gross did so when she voted FOR the NI increase to hold her higher salary and Ministerial position.
What a farce.


Yes
The Cabinet are ready for the Parliament Vote
in a few weeks.


She may not get her budget through Parliament.
That makes all this up to now
a waste of time and Money

[arista]

Theresa May called an early election because she believed she could crush Labour, but when wasn't the last time an election had to be called early because the PM was so ****?



Yes Stupid, Advisers SHE HAD


Buggered Brexit up

[arista]

No Election is going to get called
for 2 years.

[bots]

Yes
The Cabinet are ready for the Parliament Vote
in a few weeks.


She may not get her budget through Parliament.
That makes all this up to now
a waste of time and Money

Apparently most of the cabinet were unaware of the scrapping of the higher tax rate before it was announced, so she can't even count on cabinet support

[arista]

Apparently most of the cabinet were unaware of the scrapping of the higher tax rate before it was announced, so she can't even count on cabinet support

Truss says that is normal. (or thinks that's normal)

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Very Early 8:50AM

[arista]

Packed inside the Conference

Only GBnewsHD showed us
inside the Centre


BBC High up on a Hanger
away from the floor level?

[bots]

Truss says that is normal. (or thinks that's normal)

no, it's not normal :laugh:

[arista]

no, it's not normal :laugh:


Sure


Truss is Tight with Kawsi

[arista]

Laura on her BBC1HD programme
wanted Truss to tell Kawsi Off
as he met Market money makers.

Truss ignored that

[joeysteele]

Truss says that is normal. (or thinks that's normal)

Her delusion is getting worse.

[arista]

Her delusion is getting worse.



Thats why her speech at this Conference
must not have any Activists invading


Like that Comedy fella
that walked up to May PM
Giving her a P.45
A4 paper
which she took from the comedy fella.
He was dressed correctly

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[Reuters 4 Oct 2017]

[arista]

Put the Stage Higher
I say.


Wednesday is Truss Live Speech

[arista]

SkyNewsHD lady reporter

Spoke to Jacob Rees-Mogg
[Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy]
who was protected by Police
as he walked into the Conference.

He liked the Protestors
and said it is normal.



Sign Of The Times.

[joeysteele]

Put the Stage Higher
I say.


Wednesday is Truss Live Speech

Yes, preferably put the stage for her on the roof.

[arista]

Early AM
Jake Berry next to her


Husband behind her.

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[arista]

The Conference Stage is to start.
Good on GBnewsHD showing us the stage.

They have new Lady Reporter
there, ex bbc

[bots]

Senior Tory Michael Gove has suggested he would not vote for Liz Truss's Budget when it comes to Parliament, saying "I don't believe it's right."

The former cabinet minister said the PM's decision to cut the 45p tax rate was "a display of the wrong values".

He also argued that using borrowed money to fund tax cuts was "not Conservative".

Ms Truss has said she stands by her tax-cutting package arguing it would boost growth.

[arista]

Yes Gove against the vote


At least he is there in person

[arista]

Penny Mordaunt MP

On all News

Thanking the Queen.

[joeysteele]

Penny Mordaunt should have been Con leader.
She talks more sincerely and strongly.

[arista]

Penny Mordaunt should have been Con leader.
She talks more sincerely and strongly.

Yes still could be,



Good SkyNewsHD going Outside
showing the Angry Protestors


Bugger with a Loud Horn does not help


SkyNewsHD using Hi Definition Microphone

[Gusto Brunt]

Penny Mordaunt should have been Con leader.
She talks more sincerely and strongly.

I agree. Either her or Sunak.

Truss has barely been in two weeks and I cannot stand the woman.:fist:

[arista]

I agree. Either her or Sunak.

Truss has barely been in two weeks and I cannot stand the woman.:fist:


Whenever she is on

Put Subtitles on

That may help!

[Gusto Brunt]

Whenever she is on

Put Subtitles on

That may help!

Least we can laugh at their conference, which is something I suppose.:joker:

[arista]

Jacob Rees-Mogg
[Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy]
who was protected by Police
as he walked into the Conference.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVIS9aU1WYo


They Boo him

He loves it

[Liam-]

Jake Barry setting the tone for the conference during an interview saying if people don’t like the high bills they should stop using so much energy or get a higher payed job, they’re just frankly either heinously out of touch or completely devoid of any empathy and morals, but I suggest, it’s probably a bit of both

[arista]

https://twitter.com/domhauschild/status/1576581037269712896

Another MP rushing from Protestors

[Oliver_W]

Jake Barry setting the tone for the conference during an interview saying if people don’t like the high bills they should stop using so much energy or get a higher payed job, they’re just frankly either heinously out of touch or completely devoid of any empathy and morals, but I suggest, it’s probably a bit of both

I'm sure people are just kicking themselves, why didn't they think, just make more money !!

[arista]

Good on Ch4HDnews


Getting in their face
inside the Hall

And not selling well

Liz Truss Travel Coffee cup at £15.95

Larger Liz Truss Water bottle at £16.95

[Cherie]

Good on Ch4HDnews


Getting in their face
inside the Hall

And not selling well

Liz Truss Travel Coffee cup at £15.95

Larger Liz Truss Water bottle at £16.95


:umm2:

[arista]

Gove MP is now a Back Bencher
so he can make headlines

But has no power

[arista]

Monday

Kawsi gives his speech.

Markets will eyeball that.

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Yes Jake
you gave Sophie Ridge a good interview
Live at 8:35AM yesterday.


But although your Growth sounds great.

Your PM lady Truss
is scared of the Media,
thats not going to work.

She is scared of Andrew Neil.

Jake went on Andrew Neil.

VAT needs to be cut - No one is pushing that.

[arista]

[WORKING CLASS HERO
As soon as you're born they make you feel small
By giving you no time instead of it all
Till the pain is so big you feel nothing at all
A working-class hero is something to be
A working-class hero is something to be

They hurt you at home and they hit you at school
They hate you if you're clever and they despise a fool
Till you're so ****ing crazy you can't follow their rules
A working-class hero is something to be
A working-class hero is something to be

When they've tortured and scared you for twenty odd years
Then they expect you to pick a career
When you can't really function you're so full of fear
A working-class hero is something to be
A working-class hero is something to be

Keep you doped with religion and sex and TV
And you think you're so clever and classless and free
But you're still ****ing peasants as far as I can see
A working-class hero is something to be
A working-class hero is something to be

"There's room at the top" they're telling you still
But first, you must learn how to smile as you kill
If you want to be like the folks on The Hill
A working-class hero is something to be]



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[bots]

i deeply dislike Liz Truss and I didn't even think that badly of Jeremy Corbyn. I avoid listening to her if i possibly can and shout **** off if i do hear her :laugh:

She comes across as a deluded, hard faced idiot. With May, i honestly thought everything she did came from a good place even if i didn't agree with her. I can't say that about Truss

[arista]

i deeply dislike Liz Truss and I didn't even think that badly of Jeremy Corbyn. I avoid listening to her if i possibly can and shout **** off if i do hear her :laugh:

She comes across as a deluded, hard faced idiot. With May, i honestly thought everything she did came from a good place even if i didn't agree with her. I can't say that about Truss


T. May was horrible - buggered up Brexit
Delayed it.
As she Called a Snap Election
and lost her majority.
Cats Piss.


Truss has a problem
until she starts going Live on AM TV
in the week
she is doomed


Its early days
on Liz Truss
maybe she needs a drug
to push her?

Slim may have an example

[arista]

Kawsi is avoiding GMBHD itv? Monday they have Martin Lewis
they wil get Chris Philp MP, again

He is on all the others

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[bots]

they are expecting the u turn within the hour

[arista]

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[arista]

they are expecting the u turn within the hour


Well Kawsi is going Live on TV


Except ITV



So Spit it OUT

[joeysteele]

There's talk she may be 'shelving' the higher tax cut.

Perhaps she and her hopeless Chancellor should go back to the drawing board and start the whole mini budget again.
IF they were REALLY listening rather than just hearing.

What a mess and farce.

[arista]

There's talk she may be 'shelving' the higher tax cut.

Perhaps she and her hopeless Chancellor should go back to the drawing board and start the whole mini budget again.
IF they were REALLY listening rather than just hearing.

What a mess and farce.

Yes a mess
but it appears corrections
could extend her term


45p


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63114279


[Chancellor Kwasi Kwarteng is expected
to make a statement in the next hour,
reversing the proposed scrapping of the
45p rate of income tax, 10 days after it
was announced in the mini-budget.

The U-turn comes after several Tory MPs
voiced their opposition to the plan.

BBC political correspondent Nick Eardley
said government sources were not commenting.]

[joeysteele]

Yes a mess
but it appears corrections
could extend her term


45p


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63114279


[Chancellor Kwasi Kwarteng is expected
to make a statement in the next hour,
reversing the proposed scrapping of the
45p rate of income tax, 10 days after it
was announced in the mini-budget.

The U-turn comes after several Tory MPs
voiced their opposition to the plan.

BBC political correspondent Nick Eardley
said government sources were not commenting.]


She was only firmly behind the higher rate tax cut in all her interviews recently and yesterday.
She simply cannot be trusted.

She really never could be and how she got to be PM and leader may come to be something that will haunt the Con party for a good while to come.

She's already even worse than Mrs May.
This shambles of a government has around 2 years to go but for the Nation, some level of competence is needed from this still useless in the main only reshuffled old faces.

[arista]

7AM LBC reports
Pensioners are staying in Wetherspoons
to keep warm?

What are sipping hot drinks slowly?

[arista]

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[Gusto Brunt]

7AM LBC reports
Pensioners are staying in Wetherspoons
to keep warm?

What are sipping hot drinks slowly?

And Liz Truss doesn't give a sh**.

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[arista]

"And Liz Truss doesn't give a sh**."


Gusto NO.

She is not fully aware

[Gusto Brunt]

"And Liz Truss doesn't give a sh**."


Gusto NO.

She is not fully aware


Not all there either.

[arista]

Kawsi has Tweeted it.


SCRAPPED 45p Tax rate.

[arista]

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[arista]

It would have not
got through Parliament


So Scraping it was expected by all media

But the Financial Markets
are still going against the Government

[arista]

KAWSI

now Live on BBC1AM


SkyNewsHD gets EX minister Shapps
cats piss


GMBHD itv has Sir Charlie Bean (Ex Gov. of the Bank)
in their studio
2nd best

[arista]

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Inside the ITN building, London

Getting ready for the Live (over long) Ch5HD Debate show 9:15AM

[Cherie]

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Inside the ITN building, London

Getting ready for the Live (over long) Ch5HD Debate show 9:15AM

:joker:

[Gusto Brunt]

The 'Chancellor' had no credibility before and what does that u-turn make him now?

Worse than useless.

[bots]

it was scrapped because it was unpopular with everyone except truss and the chancellor and they knew it would bring them down, not because it was a "distraction" :laugh:

[arista]

The 'Chancellor' had no credibility before and what does that u-turn make him now?

Worse than useless.


Kay Burley
claims it was Chris Philp MP
who suggested it,


She would not let him go.

He did not like the way she set him up.

[Gusto Brunt]

Kay Burley
claims it was Chris Philp MP
who suggested it,


She would not let him go.

He did not like the way she set him up.

I watched that interview.:joker:

[arista]

I watched that interview.:joker:


She will keep replaying it.


Lil Chris
she set him up

[joeysteele]

The Chancellor really now has little credibility.
If he is seen not to think things through properly and to consult.

Then in a moment scrap a policy he and the PM stated as totally right.

That is unlikely to give the impression of competence plus also to leave the view of poor commitment too as to the market forces.

What an absolute shambles.

[arista]

The Chancellor really now has little credibility.
If he is seen not to think things through properly and to consult.

Then in a moment scrap a policy he and the PM stated as totally right.

That is unlikely to give the impression of competence plus also to leave the view of poor commitment too as to the market forces.

What an absolute shambles.


Sure but Gordon Brown New Labour
did a major U Turn

And went on


It all started from an idea by Chris Philp MP

[joeysteele]

Sure but Gordon Brown New Labour
did a major U Turn

And went on


It all started from an idea by Chris Philp MP

According to Truss she said only yesterday, it was the CHANCELLOR'S policy.
She said it WASN'T even discussed with other Cabinet MPs.

This was supposed to make the government look more competent electing this waste of political space Truss.

Hers and her appointed Chancellor's judgement looking extremely poor at best.

[arista]

According to Truss she said only yesterday, it was the CHANCELLOR'S policy.
She said it WASN'T even discussed with other Cabinet MPs.

This was supposed to make the government look more competent electing this waste of political space Truss.

Hers and her appointed Chancellor's judgement looking extremely poor at best.

Anything Truss says is not all Fact.


Documents show it was Chris Philp MP idea
he got Nailed on SkyNewsHD

[joeysteele]

Anything Truss says is not all Fact.


Documents show it was Chris Philp MP idea
he got Nailed on SkyNewsHD

Your first line is a very worrying fact re Truss as PM.

I don't know where to start as to what's more worrying.
Truss not able to state facts.
Or the Chancellor in his mini budget acting on the whim of a assistant to him and then making firm policy on that.

Looks extremely shambolic, badly thought about and incompetent.

[bots]

they thought people would accept it because they were getting help with their energy bills, so basically distracting the population while they gave their pals a back hander. That's the reality

[Oliver_W]

they thought people would accept it because they were getting help with their energy bills, so basically distracting the population while they gave their pals a back hander. That's the reality

Even a drop down to 44, alongside the 20 to 19, would have just drawn eyerolls and comments like "typical Tories". But scrapping it all together was just suicidal.

[UserSince2005]

**** you Kwasi. ROBBED ME TODAY!!!

[arista]

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[arista]

SkyNewsHD says

KAWSI is now going live at 4:15PM

[bots]

Chancellor Kwasi Kwarteng has said he "gets how it looks" after it emerged he had attended a champagne reception with City of London financiers on the day of the mini-budget.

He told LBC this morning that "with hindsight it probably wasn't the best day to go" to the Tory party event, which he added had been organised "a few weeks" prior to his tax cuts announcement on 23 September.

Political opponents have called for an official inquiry, following reports in the Sunday Times that he attended a private champagne reception with hedge fund managers who were set to profit from a collapse in the value of the pound that accompanied his tax-cutting plans.

The paper reported the drinks were held at the Chelsea home of a financier, where Kwarteng was alleged to have been "egged on" to commit to his plan for £45bn of unfunded tax cuts.

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It just gets worse

[arista]

[it emerged he had attended a champagne
reception with City of London financiers]

Yes, they were Donors for the Conservative Party
essential to meet them.

Chris Philp MP was with him.

[arista]

[9% of this nation say Truss will make them better off]


Poll Expert on Politics Live
BBC2HD today

[arista]

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[Gusto Brunt]

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I know it sounds a bit OTT but I see a kind of evil in that woman. The way she talks about cutting public services and benefits of the needy. With glee, too.

She creeps me out.

[arista]

I know it sounds a bit OTT but I see a kind of evil in that woman. The way she talks about cutting public services and benefits of the needy. With glee, too.

She creeps me out.



Yes that's from a Tweet by the i paper
who hate her
like you.


The best video of her was when Kay Burley
with an audience last month.
Before winning
She was far more confident back then

[joeysteele]

[9% of this nation say Truss will make them better off]


Poll Expert on Politics Live
BBC2HD today

As many as 9%, I'm near stunned !!!

[joeysteele]

I know it sounds a bit OTT but I see a kind of evil in that woman. The way she talks about cutting public services and benefits of the needy. With glee, too.

She creeps me out.

Creepy she is.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FeICh7kXwAEl-va?format=jpg&name=small

[The Slim Reaper]

She's hiding at the conference; her and Kwasi have cancelled a visit already today.

Talk of Gove being next in line.. Joke party for a comedy country.

[bots]

she is a walking disaster. If they believe that walking back the 45% tax cut is going to improve their poll results they are in for big surprise

[arista]

Just a 20minte Kawsi Kwarteng speech
on what he wants

[Cherie]

Just a 20minte Kawsi Kwarteng speech
on what he wants

Never realised how much he sounds like Bojo

[arista]

Never realised how much he sounds like Bojo



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[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/10/03/16/63060619-0-image-m-40_1664811428109.jpg

[arista]

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[Gusto Brunt]

What a complete idiot that Kwantang is. He introduced this tax cut because he 'believed it's the right path to growth.'

Then he said this morning he had axed it because 'it's distracting'.

Where the hell is the belief in it he had hours previously? He had no belief. He's a plank!

Chancellor? He couldn't take care of a school tuck shop.

[Gusto Brunt]

Yes that's from a Tweet by the i paper
who hate her
like you.


The best video of her was when Kay Burley
with an audience last month.
Before winning
She was far more confident back then

:joker:

[bots]

What a complete idiot that Kwantang is. He introduced this tax cut because he 'believed it's the right path to growth.'

Then he said this morning he had axed it because 'it's distracting'.

Where the hell is the belief in it he had hours previously? He had no belief. He's a plank!

Chancellor? He couldn't take care of a school tuck shop.

he still believes in it, he was just forced to drop it or he would have been out on his ass

[Gusto Brunt]

he still believes in it, he was just forced to drop it or he would have been out on his ass

A 'belief' that's so easily dropped.:joker:

[arista]

Now OBR could appear on this Friday


Not Nov 23

Ch4HDnews Live

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[joeysteele]

This woman is turning into a political nightmare for the Country and voters.
People haven't a clue where they likely are with her.
No wonder the main word most people use to describe her when asked to in one word.
Is UNTRUSTWORTHY.

What on earth were Con members thinking voting for this gross leader.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FeJKlBMWAAAHede?format=jpg&name=small

[Cherie]

This woman is turning into a political nightmare for the Country and voters.
People haven't a clue where they likely are with her.
No wonder the main word most people use to describe her when asked to in one word.
Is UNTRUSTWORTHY.

What on earth were Con members thinking voting for this gross leader.

This may seem cynical but I think they did it to make Bojo look good, if Rishi had got in he would have wiped the floor with Bojos legacy

There is just no way that this woman was the best person for the job and the vote was much tighter than we were lead to believe, with the media saying she would win by a landslide

[joeysteele]

[/B]

This may seem cynical but I think they did it to make Bojo look good, if Rishi had got in he would have wiped the floor with Bojos legacy

There is just no way that this woman was the best person for the job and the vote was much tighter than we were lead to believe, with the media saying she would win by a landslide

Yes, I think you have hit on something there Cherie.
Honestly though she's hopeless.
Absolutely hopeless.

That should please me in my political position but at this time of crisis to have Truss in place is extremely worrying.
For me Penny Mordaunt would have been seen as far more competent with far less ministerial experience than Truss has had in the last decade.

However Sunak would have certainly been the better choice in my view too.
From even just his experience of the crisis of the pandemic.
To be fair I can't really fault much he did and set out to do as Chancellor during that crisis.

[bots]

truss thinks that the poll numbers will improve after the u turn, they won't, and then tory mp's will simply vote her out and bring in a "safe" pair of hands

[Gusto Brunt]

truss thinks that the poll numbers will improve after the u turn, they won't, and then tory mp's will simply vote her out and bring in a "safe" pair of hands

I hear a lot of Tories say 'Liz is VERY intelligent, but...'

Not BUT. She's thick as two short planks.:joker:

I hope she will be gone by the end of the week, or next week. And Sunak put in as PM. :hee:

After all, he did come second. :D

[bots]

i reckon gove is being lined up

[arista]

i reckon gove is being lined up


PM Gove

Would work better

[joeysteele]

truss thinks that the poll numbers will improve after the u turn, they won't, and then tory mp's will simply vote her out and bring in a "safe" pair of hands

It shouldn't be acceptable to change leader and PM TWICE in a period of government following a previous general election.

Either Truss should seek an endorsement from the electorate or be left there until the next general election comes.

No way should another leader and PM be chosen at this time by only Con MPs and only Con party members.
Denying the electorate any say at all whatsoever.

[arista]

Truss on TV news today giving interviews
Visiting a construction site near
Birmingham this morning.


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/10/04/10/63088497-11278003-image-m-79_1664876674916.jpg

[bots]

It shouldn't be acceptable to change leader and PM TWICE in a period of government following a previous general election.

Either Truss should seek an endorsement from the electorate or be left there until the next general election comes.

No way should another leader and PM be chosen at this time by only Con MPs and only Con party members.
Denying the electorate any say at all whatsoever.

they had their say at the last election, it doesnt matter how many pm's there are. Both parties have taken advantage of that so it's not going to change

[joeysteele]

they had their say at the last election, it doesnt matter how many pm's there are. Both parties have taken advantage of that so it's not going to change

It wouldn't be acceptable.
It hasn't happened anytime in modern politics

I'd imagine the media reaction would be out of control.

People voted sadly for Johnson and his policies.
One change fair enough.
Another no way.
If they went for another leadership change,an election shouldn't be denied to the electorate.

It's a complete turnaround of who and what the electorate voted for in 2019.
Which can't be right or acceptable to be done TWICE.
Not a chance.

[bots]

It wouldn't be acceptable.
It hasn't happened anytime in modern politics

I'd imagine the media reaction would be out of control.

People voted sadly for Johnson and his policies.
One change fair enough.
Another no way.
If they went for another leadership change,an election shouldn't be denied to the electorate.

It's a complete turnaround of who and what the electorate voted for in 2019.
Which can't be right or acceptable to be done TWICE.
Not a chance.

in a democracy, people are free to make their choice at the next GE. There is no law or precedent that dictates there must be a GE on a leader change.

I would have thought it sensible to get rid of a leader that is utterly incompetent and replace with a new one

[joeysteele]

in a democracy, people are free to make their choice at the next GE. There is no law or precedent that dictates there must be a GE on a leader change.

I would have thought it sensible to get rid of a leader that is utterly incompetent and replace with a new one

They've just done that, changed their leader

There's no precedent either for any party OR government changing the PM twice while in government.
In opposition yes.
However no way should the electorate be denied TWICE to have their say to approve a new PM.

Personally I think any change of PM while in government should have to seek his or her own mandate from the people within a year of the change.
Under any government that is too.

[Oliver_W]

It wouldn't be acceptable.
It hasn't happened anytime in modern politics

I'd imagine the media reaction would be out of control.

People voted sadly for Johnson and his policies.
One change fair enough.
Another no way.
If they went for another leadership change,an election shouldn't be denied to the electorate.

It's a complete turnaround of who and what the electorate voted for in 2019.
Which can't be right or acceptable to be done TWICE.
Not a chance.

They've just done that, changed their leader

There's no precedent either for any party OR government changing the PM twice while in government.
In opposition yes.
However no way should the electorate be denied TWICE to have their say to approve a new PM.

Personally I think any change of PM while in government should have to seek his or her own mandate from the people within a year of the change.
Under any government that is too.

The only people who could vote for Johnson were those who live in his constituency.

Also, they didn't change PM twice within one government - the last election was in 2019, the PM "only" changed once since then.

[joeysteele]

The only people who could vote for Johnson were those who live in his constituency.

Also, they didn't change PM twice within one government - the last election was in 2019, the PM "only" changed once since then.

Pardon?

If they were to change Truss for another as bots stated.
That WOULD be changing PM twice in one governmental period.

Indeed the whole country doesn't vote in the party leaders constituency.

You can't have it all ways though.
In saying people in the red wall seats voted for Johnson.
Also saying people in those seats voted against Corbyn.

Of course the leader influences across the Nation how they vote as to how well any leader of a party is liked.
That's clear.

[arista]

Joey

She has gone out to a Building Site
for you.
She is supporting the British People


She speaks slow for you.


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/10/04/11/63090419-0-image-m-18_1664880583359.jpg
Penny did not get enough votes to win.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/10/04/11/1664880623300_lc_galleryImage_Britain_s_Prime_Mini ster_.JPG

[Oliver_W]

She speaks slow for you

:joker:

How generous.

[joeysteele]

Joey

She has gone out to a Building Site
for you.
She is supporting the British People


She speaks slow for you.


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/10/04/11/63090419-0-image-m-18_1664880583359.jpg
Penny did not get enough votes to win.


I'd really rather not hear her speaking at all arista.:joker:

[bots]

Did she deliver anything?

[arista]

Did she deliver anything?


Trussonomics

Catts Piss

[arista]

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Today more "asylum"


New Home Secretary Suella Braverman
will BAN Channel migrants from claiming asylum
in the UK


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11278397/New-Home-Secretary-Suella-Braverman-BAN-Channel-migrants-claiming-asylum-UK.html

[arista]

Truss was on Radio 4 and LBC
early.

Now Beth has her on SkyNewsHD



She just told Beth Off

Truss says most things will be announced in Parliament.

[arista]

Truss also has given GBnewsHD an interview
in the same room.

More Questions answered to them

On Ch4 possible sale
she said they will look at it.

[arista]

From BBC Politics Live BBC2HD

The Guardian Reporters
have a mini bus taking them home, tomorrow
due to the Solid Rail Strike.


Tomorrow, Truss gives her Speech
11AM

[Cherie]

It shouldn't be acceptable to change leader and PM TWICE in a period of government following a previous general election.

Either Truss should seek an endorsement from the electorate or be left there until the next general election comes.

No way should another leader and PM be chosen at this time by only Con MPs and only Con party members.
Denying the electorate any say at all whatsoever.

Correct and if they are put in they should at least try and honour the manifesto pledges from 2019

[arista]

Correct and if they are put in they should at least try and honour the manifesto pledges from 2019


NO CHERIE


Covid -19

Russia War Ukraine


Queen Died


These 3 things means,
No to your view.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/10/04/14/63095967-0-image-m-27_1664889160314.jpg

Tough Home Secretary Suella goes Live at 5:15PM

Back Bencher Gove MP Watching all the angles.


PM doing interviews in a Portakabin
in the Builders Site

[joeysteele]

NO CHERIE


Covid -19

Russia War Ukraine


Queen Died


These 3 things means,
No to your view.



What would the Queen passing away have anything to do with political and government policy ?

[arista]

What would the Queen passing away have anything to do with political and government policy ?


It Cancelled Parliament


Halted loads of Legit
primary legislation.

[joeysteele]

It Cancelled Parliament


Halted loads of Legit
primary legislation.

Shouldn't alter the content and detail of policy though.

Yes the Covid crisis warranted an additional crisis management input to policy.

Ukraine likewise.

However the detail of policy elected on should remain.

If the policies from a general election are not being done or are being changed then the mandate is gone.
Until a new election is held and won.
Otherwise what's the point of election manifestos.

[bots]

Correct and if they are put in they should at least try and honour the manifesto pledges from 2019

which basically consisted of Get brexit dun, levelling up and better internet, none of which is being interfered with by the truss government

[bots]

The Truss government wont last. They are a couple of weeks in and the majority of tory mp's are already drawing battle lines. Truss seems to think she is all powerful, she is in for a rude awakening

[arista]

The Truss government wont last. They are a couple of weeks in and the majority of tory mp's are already drawing battle lines. Truss seems to think she is all powerful, she is in for a rude awakening


Sure, there is a Fixed General Election December 2024


As for something sooner
that's all Guess work

[arista]

Suella Speech is running late

[arista]

Home Secretary Now Live


All TV News Channels

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/10/04/13/63092443-0-image-a-2_1664886522884.jpg

[bots]

this tory conference is more reminiscent of a labour conference of the past. They are going to implode :laugh:

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FeK4ujTWAA0bCod?format=jpg&name=900x900


Kemi is loving it,

[GiRTh]

NJmVJ6tNCH4
The GB news guy. :laugh2:

[bots]

The GB news guy. :laugh2:

there's someone who knows how to ask the tough tough questions :laugh:

[joeysteele]

NJmVJ6tNCH4
The GB news guy. :laugh2:

Good grief she's absolutely awful.
Worse on that questioning than she usually is.

[arista]

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[arista]

What would the Queen passing away have anything to do with political and government policy ?


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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

Online Paper

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[arista]

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[arista]

1577356617154183183


Home Secretary talking to Chris Hope
of the Telegraph
at a Fringe event.

[arista]

A change to the time of
the Prime Minister speech is on AM

11AM or 11:15AM

As the Rail Strike
means many will go home right after her.


GMBHD itv LIVE
says many MP's have gone home last night
to avoid today's Rail Strike

[arista]

Burley is in Birmingham

Talking Live to the Foreign Secretary James Cleverly MP

SkyNewsHD

[arista]

Foreign Secretary James Cleverly MP

Now saying the same

on BBC1AM

[arista]

Cleverly MP

Now Live on GMBHD itv

Talking to Ed Balls
told him he does not want to make this
all about the Railway strike

[arista]

The Good News

All media say, her (Prime Minster) speech is around 25mins

at 11AM or just after that.

[arista]

Everyone is putting Truss down.


Her Problem is "Growth"

The whole world lacks growth
due to Poxy China and its Covid-19

They have a Zero Covid Policy
Slowing world trade - right now

[joeysteele]

Well her next challenge has to be the benefit likely increases.
Whatever the views of the fair number of hard-line Cons as to people who need and claim benefits.
I agree with Penny Mordaunt they should be increased at the inflation rate.

This was stated as would be the case by Johnson and Sunak.
You can't in fairness and decency tell people that IS what will happen.
Then this gross Truss changing it and not honouring it.
Certainly for this coming years increases.

That is wrong and amounts to a breaking of trust.
To the people told the increase would be at the inflation rate.

Over 4 in 10 claimants who claim Universal Credit are IN work.
Yet still need to claim the benefit.

As for what she will say today.
It will be about a possible fantasy growth coming as a hope.
It will be about delivering.
Delivering what???

I wouldn't feel confident thinking Truss could make a pot of tea.
Never mind do the full right thing for the 4 Nations of the present at any rate, United Kingdom.
She's absolutely hopeless.

[arista]

[I agree with Penny Mordaunt they should be increased at the inflation rate.]

They need to Sack her from the Cabinet.

She is causing Trouble

[joeysteele]

[I agree with Penny Mordaunt they should be increased at the inflation rate.]

They need to Sack her from the Cabinet.

She is causing Trouble

No, she knows more of what's right.
She has at least more of an understanding and fairness than Liz Gross.

Truss is the one who should be sacked and should never have been PM in the first place.

[arista]

If you have BBCnewsHD on

You now have BBC2HD on BBCnewsHD

Poxy Cheapskates BBC



SkyNewsHD Live in the Hall
Far better

[arista]

No, she knows more of what's right.
She has at least more of an understanding and fairness than Liz Gross.

Truss is the one who should be sacked and should never have been PM in the first place.


No she is speaking against Truss
Causing Headlines
Sack Her

The PM can not be sacked, fast

[bots]

there is an argument for controlling benefits when the economy is flying high and people have the opportunity to earn a good income. It is heartless in the extreme to cut peoples benefits when they are already struggling

[arista]

there is an argument for controlling benefits when the economy is flying high and people have the opportunity to earn a good income. It is heartless in the extreme to cut peoples benefits when they are already struggling


But that is not due until April 2023

[arista]

The Hall is showing a video

Truss PM goes Live
in a moment.

[arista]

Truss Now LIVE

All Media


Thanking The Conservative Mayor
for that Zone.

[The Slim Reaper]

No she is speaking against Truss
Causing Headlines
Sack Her

The PM can not be sacked, fast

Not more woke cancel culture.

[joeysteele]

Moving on up.

Hope at the next election the song played for her will be Carole Bayer Sager and You're Moving OUT Today.

[arista]

Not more woke cancel culture.


No, it is the same in the Labour Party.
Talk against the Leader
SACKED

[arista]

Moving on up.

Hope at the next election the song played for her will be Carole Bayer Seeger and You're Moving OUT Today.


She wants to know
can you get a good job locally.


She States


She has 2 Daughters

[joeysteele]

She wants to know
can you get a good job locally.


She States


She has 2 Daughters


Heard it all before.
Half her speech are likely to be the tired out old repeats.

[arista]

Greenpeace Protestors Halted Her

[The Slim Reaper]

No, it is the same in the Labour Party.
Talk against the Leader
SACKED

It's OK that you want to cancel Penny for having an opinion. I'm sure you remain consistent on that :smug:

[joeysteele]

Oh it got interesting for a brief moment there.

[arista]

It's OK that you want to cancel Penny for having an opinion. I'm sure you remain consistent on that :smug:


Bollocks



It is about RULES

[The Slim Reaper]

Bollocks



It is about RULES

Bollocks - it's not about rules.

You supported Boris' illegal prorogation of parliament. I guess only the rules that support whatever you want, really count?

[arista]

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[arista]

Halting Truss for 2 mins

[arista]

Bollocks - it's not about rules.

You supported Boris' illegal prorogation of parliament. I guess only the rules that support whatever you want, really count?


It was a Brexit Hard Time

[joeysteele]

Halting Truss for 2 mins

She's not saying anything at all new anyhow.

[arista]

She's not saying anything at all new anyhow.



A few new things
among that same script.


Getting Britain Moving - Is she bringing a TV Fit Lady to assist us?

[arista]

Expanding Rwanda Scheme?

It not in Operation yet???

[The Slim Reaper]

It was a Brexit Hard Time

So breaking laws and rules is fine, just as long as you want it. That's what we already agreed on.

[joeysteele]

Defence spending up to 3% by the end of the decade.
8 YEARS AWAY.

It's mostly a kick all into the long grass speech.

[The Slim Reaper]

Expanding Rwanda Scheme?

It not in Operation yet???

All the tories have left is racism, so of course they're going full on.

They've destroyed their economic credentials. Brexit is a disaster, truss is a disaster, so all they have is culture wars about woke police, and deportations.

[arista]

All the tories have left is racism, so of course they're going full on.

They've destroyed their economic credentials. Brexit is a disaster, truss is a disaster, so all they have is culture wars about woke police, and deportations.

Rwanda is a New Deal

Let it happen.

[arista]

She likes the word

wrong

[joeysteele]

She likes the word

wrong

A pity she doesn't direct that word to herself.
Because it's what she IS.

[arista]

Attacking Labour, SNP and Wales Labour.

I hope she soon Concludes

[The Slim Reaper]

Rwanda is a New Deal

Let it happen.

Not really my choice. I definitely wouldn't let it happen if I had any say. You do know that the scheme breaks international law? I guess that's ok too, because you hate refugees?

All these rules you want to break, and yet Penny having an opinion is the only thing that bothers you :laugh:

[arista]

Her Script Writer

Likes her calling them MP's
"Friends"

30mins - All Done.

[arista]

Not really my choice. I definitely wouldn't let it happen if I had any say. You do know that the scheme breaks international law? I guess that's ok too, because you hate refugees?

All these rules you want to break, and yet Penny having an opinion is the only thing that bothers you :laugh:

No Slim
It's for the Migrants that are not
refugees

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/10/05/11/63132993-11282867-image-a-20_1664966493695.jpg

[bots]

i don't think there is any point getting stressed about truss, she cant survive more than 6 months

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/10/05/11/63132999-11282867-image-a-21_1664966502600.jpg

Chuck them out of the Building

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/10/05/11/63133001-11282867-image-a-24_1664966520604.jpg

That's it Fella
Push her Out