Godmother to Prince William resigns, after asking Black Lady what country she's from

[The Slim Reaper]

Never complain, never explain, it was easier for her to take it on the chin, I’m sure at 83 you would do the same, throw yourself under the bus for the sake of it, she has not been at the Queens side for 60 years and not learned how to handle things, it’s not like she is going to rock up on Lorraine to give her side is it

So you just accept lies being spread about you being a racist? Nah, you wouldn't take it on the chin, neither would I, and nor would pretty much anyone who has contributed in this thread.

The family did explain - they condemned what has been accepted as happening.

[Cherie]

I don’t think Ngozi’s deliberately trying to vilify anyone but at the end of the day she had an experience that was quite painful to her and she wants to talk about it. Supposing she’s telling nothing but the non-biased truth (and of that I have little doubt) and this challenges (if not publicly weeds out) some of the prejudiced attitudes other people have at Buckingham Palace, I suppose that’ll be mission-accomplished. Some things really do need to be talked about and racism, merely alleged or not, is one of them. I don’t think it was her intention for an old lady to get the boot.

What did she think would happen ...I mean it’s pretty clear it wouldn’t be business as usual

I think she is quite happy painting the Royal family as racist, don’t you?

[Cherie]

So you just accept lies being spread about you being a racist? Nah, you wouldn't take it on the chin, neither would I, and nor would pretty much anyone who has contributed in this thread.

The family did explain - they condemned what has been accepted as happening.

Wrongly in my view, but they could hardly do anything else backed into a corner

[Redway]

And just to be clear, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with appropriately/politely asking someone where they originate from (it can be the start of a really cool, interesting conversation and very-often is) but Hussey didn’t just ask a question with fair, respectful intentions. She was prying and prying until she got her form of confirmation that Marlene Fulani wasn’t British enough for her.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Wrongly in my view, but they could hardly do anything else backed into a corner

blame fear

its 2022

dodge the blame

avoid the fake hard-left racial hysteria

on social media

note Willaim and Kate have totally avoided anything

not mentioned in this thread

that pair got skills dude


:joker:

[Alf]

I am logging off for 6 months but I just have to post tonight and basically do some trolling until I get a ban.

[Swan]

You've just placed your inherent biases into that framing, which is fine, but just be aware that you're doing it, and that it isn't neutral observation.

Corbyn wasn't misled. he stood on his platform, a great platform by the way that would actually address many of the issues the country faces, especially today. But we got may and Johnson instead. that's democracy. Offering the same things as tories, is not a strategy that will work, when the actual tories are prepared to pander to the even more base instincts of the right. It was the labour right that worked to prevent Corbyn winning in 17, when he had a chance in a non-brexit election. That is a fact that can be proved as labour files and internal documents over years have been released.

Socialism is an economic philosophy, the rest is just nonsense.

That's fine, i do lean right at times. But for the most part i don't. I know this is off topic, but i still can't grasp why you hate Wes so much? I understand your objection to him privatising more areas of the NHS, and can't say i agree with that either. But us central a holes like Wes, more than anything the Tories could ever produce. He believes in multiculturalism, a gay man who came from working class upbringings.

What would rather, him, or dicks like Truss? Keir?

[Cherie]

I am logging off for 6 months but I just have to post tonight and basically do some trolling until I get a ban.

:oh:

[Alf]

And just to be clear, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with appropriately/politely asking someone where they originate from (it can be the start of a really cool, interesting conversation and very-often is) but Hussey didn’t just ask a question with fair, respectful intentions. She was prying and prying until she got her form of confirmation that Marlene Fulani wasn’t British enough for her.Where do you come from Redway?

No, really, where do you come from?

No, but where do you really come from?

[Crimson Dynamo]

I am logging off for 6 months but I just have to post tonight and basically do some trolling until I get a ban.

:oh:

[Alf]

I’ve been one of the more intellectual voices on this thread. At this point I’m just tired and having a bit of fun. I’d relax if I were you.You're about as intellectual as Joey Essex.

[Swan]

I am logging off for 6 months but I just have to post tonight and basically do some trolling until I get a ban.

Don't troll, say what's on your mind!

[GoldHeart]

I'm confused about the whole 'transcript' , that makes no sense.

[Alf]

Where do you come from Slim?

[Crimson Dynamo]

And just to be clear, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with appropriately/politely asking someone where they originate from (it can be the start of a really cool, interesting conversation and very-often is) but Hussey didn’t just ask a question with fair, respectful intentions. She was prying and prying until she got her form of confirmation that Marlene Fulani wasn’t British enough for her.

and you got this from one bias lady's recollection?

thank god you are not a lawyer

:skull:

[The Slim Reaper]

That's fine, i do lean right at times. But for the most part i don't. I know this is off topic, but i still can't grasp why you hate Wes so much? I understand your objection to him privatising more areas of the NHS, and can't say i agree with that either. But us central a holes like Wes, more than anything the Tories could ever produce. He believes in multiculturalism, a gay man who came from working class upbringings.

What would rather, him, or dicks like Truss? Keir?

They're all cut from exactly the same cloth. I perhaps know a little more about the things Streeting and his mates were up to during the Corbyn years to actually prevent a labour government. I'm off out to meet some friends now, but prob a conversation for pm if you want to have it at some point.

[Swan]

Where do you come from Slim?

Slim is fine, don't go after him, i wish more lefties were like him, at least you can have a conversation!

[Alf]

Is it about time that gays and trans started celebrating straight people?

[Redway]

Example of lovely, appropriate, well-intentioned asking: ‘you’ve got such beautiful, chocolate-y/olive skin and Chioma/Obinna/Moyinoluwa/Oritsetosan | Manpreet/Fahd | Klestore | Ageous sounds like such a lovely name. Is that representative or Nigerian | Pakistani | Albanian | Greek heritage?’

Anyone reasonable would be proud to answer. It shows an open interest and might-well be the starter of a fascinating conversation.

Example of what isn’t okay: someone under the guise of ‘I’m old so you can’t take offence to what I say without being ageist, but I can be (not even very subtly) racist projecting a 7-minute interrogative monologue until a lady clearly uncomfortable confirms that she has non-British heritage.

There’s a world of difference between the two.

[Swan]

They're all cut from exactly the same cloth. I perhaps know a little more about the things Streeting and his mates were up to during the Corbyn years to actually prevent a labour government. I'm off out to meet some friends now, but prob a conversation for pm if you want to have it at some point.

Fair enough, have a good one Slim.

[The Slim Reaper]

Where do you come from Slim?

Born and grew up in the Cotswolds - the hub of socialist thought leaders :laugh:

[Alf]

Slim is fine, don't go after him, i wish more lefties were like him, at least you can have a conversation!Slim knows that I know he's fine. I told him so last week.

[Redway]

Slim knows that I know he's fine. I told him so last week.

I thought you were disappearing for 6 months.

[The Slim Reaper]

Slim is fine, don't go after him, i wish more lefties were like him, at least you can have a conversation!

Alf and I are on good terms. He wasn't coming after me.

[Alf]

I thought you were disappearing for 6 months.Your ridiculousness brought me back early.

[The Slim Reaper]

even slim

[Redway]

One does wonder how not being a racism-apologist is ridiculous.

[Alf]

There's nothing better than drunk Alf of a Saturday night.

Better than Match of the day

[Alf]

One does wonder how not being a racism-apologist is ridiculous.Pin a badge on yourself.

[Redway]

There's nothing better than drunk Alf of a Saturday night.

Better than Match of the day

I prefer Strictly Come Dancing.

[Swan]

Slim knows that I know he's fine. I told him so last week.

Alf and I are on good terms. He wasn't coming after me.

Ok yeah cool, sorry :laugh:

[Swan]

even slim

He didn't even fcuking mention me :fist:

[GoldHeart]

And? I could release a transcript of a conversation I just had, I don't have a recording of it but its my recollection and the transcript would be out there.
No proof that she intentionally took a recording device to cause this as Farage said. That's my argument here.

Yeah why are they trying to say it was recorded :conf: .

[Redway]

and you got this from one bias lady's recollection?

thank god you are not a lawyer

:skull:

Who exactly told you Fulani’s more biased than you?

[Alf]

He didn't even fcuking mention me :fist:Sorry Swan, I was pi55ed out of my skull, It was the anniversary of my best mate committing suicide, so we always have a good drink for him.

You know I've always liked you Swan and being sobre would have not forgot you.

[Swan]

Sorry Swan, I was pi55ed out of my skull, It was the anniversary of my best mate committing suicide, so we always have a good drink for him.

You know I've always liked you Swan and being sobre would have not forgot you.

Sorry to hear about your mate Alf. All good, i don't really make much of an effort to integrate myself in the forum anyway

I appreciate that though :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

[QUOTE=Redway;11236436]One does wonder/QUOTE]

one does

[Crimson Dynamo]

Sorry Swan, I was pi55ed out of my skull, It was the anniversary of my best mate committing suicide, so we always have a good drink for him.

You know I've always liked you Swan and being sobre would have not forgot you.

and we all love you Alf

stick around

we all will protect you

[Redway]

[QUOTE=Redway;11236436]One does wonder/QUOTE]

one does

I still await your response to the Nana video I posted.

[Crimson Dynamo]

[QUOTE=LeatherTrumpet;11236446]

I still await your response to the Nana video I posted.

that's nice

[GoldHeart]

So if a white woman wants their help they will be denied because of the colour of their skin…:shrug:
Is that not the epitome of Racism?…

No I very much doubt that is the case , from what I gather it's a charity which mostly focused on minorities IE African & Carribbean women . There's a number of reasons for this, they may feel more comfortable & then there's the cultural differences, and there's a better understanding .

I don't see the problem, and how do you know she turns down white women?... She might still offer them support and help ?.

There's charities out there that focus on Muslim & Indian women, because of the issue with religion , honour killings & arranged marriages. Are you going to be offended by those?. Even though you won't have the same problems culturally as them ? .

There's LGBT charities aswell. So I guess straight people should be offended as they don't fit the category then .

[Redway]

No I very much doubt that is the case , from what I gather it's a charity which mostly focused on minorities IE African & Carribbean women . There's a number of reasons for this, they may feel more comfortable & then there's the cultural differences, and there's a better understanding .

I don't see the problem, and how do you know she turns down white women?... She might still offer them support and help ?.

There's charities out there that focus on Muslim & Indian women, because of the issue with religion , honour killings & arranged marriages. Are you going to be offended by those?.Even though you won't have the same problems culturally as them ? .

There's LGBT charities aswell. So I guess straight people should be offended as they don't fit the category then .

People who take Farage seriously as a claim for stuff like this will take offence at anything that respects some of the specific needs of and protects marginalised groups.

[Crimson Dynamo]

People who take Farage seriously as a claim for stuff like this will take offence at anything that respects some of the specific needs of and protects marginalised groups.

same as people who take charity workers with a chip on each shoulder seriously?

:smug:

[Alf]

No I very much doubt that is the case , from what I gather it's a charity which mostly focused on minorities IE African & Carribbean women . There's a number of reasons for this, they may feel more comfortable & then there's the cultural differences, and there's a better understanding .

I don't see the problem, and how do you know she turns down white women?... She might still offer them support and help ?.

There's charities out there that focus on Muslim & Indian women, because of the issue with religion , honour killings & arranged marriages. Are you going to be offended by those?. Even though you won't have the same problems culturally as them ? .

There's LGBT charities aswell. So I guess straight people should be offended as they don't fit the category then .But when people speak up in defense and raise awareness of White girls who have been groomed and raped in the UK, those people are labelled racists and islamaphobes.

We can't have Tommy Robinson raising awareness about those issues, can we?

[Swan]

No I very much doubt that is the case , from what I gather it's a charity which mostly focused on minorities IE African & Carribbean women . There's a number of reasons for this, they may feel more comfortable & then there's the cultural differences, and there's a better understanding .

I don't see the problem, and how do you know she turns down white women?... She might still offer them support and help ?.

There's charities out there that focus on Muslim & Indian women, because of the issue with religion , honour killings & arranged marriages. Are you going to be offended by those?. Even though you won't have the same problems culturally as them ? .

There's LGBT charities aswell. So I guess straight people should be offended as they don't fit the category then .

They are not minorities in their own countries. We buy into this ideology that black and brown are people are minorities. They not, at all, only in the western world. Not in their native countries.

And that's the sad irony, all that vile sh!t goes on in their own countries, not ours, that's why they come here, to avoid all that.

The UK aint so bad!!

[Redway]

same as people who take charity workers with a chip on each shoulder seriously?

:smug:

Eventually one has to go off, eat rice, drink wine and moan about Corrie but there’s something about your ignorance (assuming you’re not just baiting through-and-through) that’s got me glued. For all the wrong reasons, obviously.

[GoldHeart]

They are not minorities in their own countries. We buy into this ideology that black and brown are people are minorities. They not, at all, only in the western world. Not in their native countries.

And that's the sad irony, all that vile sh!t goes on in their own countries, not ours, that's why they come here, to avoid all that.

The UK aint so bad!!


What about cultural differences & arranged marriages and so on ?? .

What about LGBTQ charities then? . Do straight people feel excluded?.

[Alf]

Words from the great one. He loves you all and has your back.


df7RQukAVOg

[Swan]

What about cultural differences & arranged marriages and so on ?? .

What about LGBTQ charities then? . Do straight people feel excluded?.

Yeah it's wrong, and still goes on here, that's a Islamic trait in the UK. Some Muslims aren't willing to budge on that one here.

No, i don't think straight people feel excluded, i think most want equality for all in this country. I feel we celebrate LGBTQ more than most, if not any other country in the western world (the east aren't there yet, middle east kill gay people).

A minority means what it means, if you're referring to their countries. Look up "minority". A brown person might be oppressed in their own country, they're not a minority though!

[Mystic Mock]

So if a white woman wants their help they will be denied because of the colour of their skin…:shrug:
Is that not the epitome of Racism?…

Tbf Charities have always limited the scope on who they're gonna help.

Like for example Comic Relief only helps children to do with the African continent, while Children In Need helps children from the UK.

[Redway]

Sometimes I wish there was an actual Big Brother house specifically for TiBB members to assemble face-to-face and settle their differences.

Make it happen, Davina.

[rusticgal]

Yeah why are they trying to say it was recorded :conf: .

Well a transcript is a written or recorded document of events….maybe writing it herself was a transcript…if she wrote it herself are we to believe it was true :shrug:

[Redway]

Well a transcript is a written or recorded document of events….maybe writing it herself was a transcript…if she wrote it herself are we to believe it was true :shrug:

‘She recorded the dialogue so must have went into Buckingham Palace with a motive to bully and intimidate an old lady. Shame on Marlene.’

‘She wrote down the transcript herself. In the absence of actual recording, how are we to believe a word of it?’

This poor woman just can’t win.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Eventually one has to go off, eat rice, drink wine and moan about Corrie but there’s something about your ignorance (assuming you’re not just baiting through-and-through) that’s got me glued. For all the wrong reasons, obviously.

Keep making cheap jibes

Keep losing

Biff

[GoldHeart]

Yeah it's wrong, and still goes on here, that's a Islamic trait in the UK. Some Muslims aren't willing to budge on that one here.

No, i don't think straight people feel excluded, i think most want equality for all in this country. I feel we celebrate LGBTQ more than most, if not any other country in the western world (the east aren't there yet, middle east kill gay people).

A minority means what it means, if you're referring to their countries. Look up "minority". A brown person might be oppressed in their own country, they're not a minority though!

So you're ok with LGBTQ charities? ,but you take issue with charities focusing on black & Asian women?.

What if there was a charity that started only focusing on domestic male victims? , I personally think that would also be a good thing..... aswell as domestic abuse charities for women :shrug: .

[Redway]

They are not minorities in their own countries. We buy into this ideology that black and brown are people are minorities. They not, at all, only in the western world. Not in their native countries.

And that's the sad irony, all that vile sh!t goes on in their own countries, not ours, that's why they come here, to avoid all that.

The UK aint so bad!!

Certain black people have been living in Liverpool (brought against their will owing to the slave-trade) for the past 350 years (and that’s not even the half of it). Did you know that?

[Swan]

So you're ok with LGBTQ charities? ,but you take issue with charities focusing on black & Asian women?.

What if there was a charity that started only focusing on domestic male victims? , I personally think that would also be a good thing..... aswell as domestic abuse charities for women :shrug: .

What are you on about??? When have i said im against charities for black and asian women?

Are you sure you have the right poster? And yeah it would be a GREAT THING!

[rusticgal]

‘She recorded the dialogue so must have went into Buckingham Palace with a motive to bully and intimidate an old lady. Shame on Marlene.’

‘She wrote down the transcript herself. In the absence of actual recording, how are we to believe a word of it?’

This poor woman just can’t win.


I suppose you have to question why she accepted the invite to Buckingham Palace in the first place since she firmly believes that the Royals are Racists….did Camilla not host the gathering…Camilla being the in-law that Racially abused Meghan?
The lady apologised if she caused offence but she doesn’t accept the apology…it appears she can’t win either :shrug:

[Alf]

So you're ok with LGBTQ charities? ,but you take issue with charities focusing on black & Asian women?.

What if there was a charity that started only focusing on domestic male victims? , I personally think that would also be a good thing..... aswell as domestic abuse charities for women :shrug: .Let’s be honest, a charity that excludes people based on the colour of their skin are a bit racist, are they not?

If there was a charity that specifically excluded everyone who wasn't White, then that charity would be seen as racist, and rightly so.

[Redway]

You could also argue, Swan, that the indigenous English of-yore have had a penchant for colonising and stealing gold, tea, curry, technology and the like to get away from the empty barrenness that by-and-large is the British Isles in its rawest form.

But the U.K. ain’t so bad, right?

[rusticgal]

So you're ok with LGBTQ charities? ,but you take issue with charities focusing on black & Asian women?.

What if there was a charity that started only focusing on domestic male victims? , I personally think that would also be a good thing..... aswell as domestic abuse charities for women :shrug: .

….and what if they were for just white men and women…would that be acceptable?

[Mystic Mock]

It’s an old woman having a conversation

Regardless of what was said or what can be proven

She didn’t pull out a knife and start stabbing all the African guests or were ever the fcuk they are from.

Tbf I don't think that anyone on here has advocated for her to be arrested, because the hypothetical scenario that you've came up with would warrant a lengthy Prison sentence.

[Redway]

Let’s be honest, a charity that excludes people based on the colour of their skin are a bit racist, are they not?

If there was a charity that specifically excluded everyone who wasn't White, then that charity would be seen as racist, and rightly so.

Reverse-racism and the lack of its actual existence are the key terms. White people are not an “oppressed minority” in the West (if they were in the past - excluding Eastern Europeans - it would be the Irish and I actually support them potentially still having specific federations to them in the U.K. that are tailored to their specific needs, if they need it) so by-and-large don’t need don’t need specific protection/resources merely because of the colour of their skin. Some things are better-understood by someone of the same race/background and that’s just how it is.

[Alf]

You could also argue, Swan, that the indigenous English of-yore have had a penchant for colonising and stealing gold, tea, curry, technology and the like to get away from the empty barrenness that by-and-large is the British Isles in its rawest form.

But the U.K. ain’t so bad, right?Sounds like you're suggesting that this constant demonising of White people as racists is done as revenge for colonialism?

By the the way, many ethnicities have played their part in colonising in history.

[Swan]

You could also argue, Swan, that the indigenous English of-yore have had a penchant for colonising and stealing gold, tea, curry, technology and the like to get away from the empty barrenness that by-and-large is the British Isles in its rawest form.

But the U.K. ain’t so bad, right?

Nope, it isn't. Have you seen the struggle of those "poc" trying to get here in the past 20 years? Moving past NON war torn countries?

Lets not step back over 100 years Redway. I don't wanna embarrass you yet again, in the same night, and in the same thread.

[GoldHeart]

….and what if they were for just white men and women…would that be acceptable?

but there is charities where the people getting help are predominantly white.

[Swan]

but there is charities where the people getting help are predominantly white.

Name ONE? And prove the predominately WHITE aspect. ONE charity that favours whites in this country????

[Redway]

Nope, it isn't. Have you seen the struggle of those "poc" trying to get here in the past 20 years? Moving past NON war torn countries?

Lets not step back over 100 years Redway. I don't wanna embarrass you yet again, in the same night, and in the same thread.

I didn’t realise I was being embarrassed in the first place. Maybe I just don’t take you seriously enough for any of your posts to really dawn on me in any particular emotive kind of way.

[GoldHeart]

Let’s be honest, a charity that excludes people based on the colour of their skin are a bit racist, are they not?

If there was a charity that specifically excluded everyone who wasn't White, then that charity would be seen as racist, and rightly so.

It has nothing to do with exclusion . You don't have an issue with children in need only focusing on UK children......do you??.

And you don't have issue with LGBTQ charities do you ?.

Or what about female domestic charities in general?, When there's male domestic abuse victims.

[Redway]

As one recalls you threatened to embarrass me after I made a dead line about turkey but really it was just a case of going ’round in circles. (Swan.)

[rusticgal]

but there is charities where the people getting help are predominantly white.

But they are not just for white people :shrug:

If they were there would be uproar….do you not get my point?

[Swan]

I didn’t realise I was being embarrassed in the first place. Maybe I just don’t take you seriously enough for any of your posts to really dawn on me in any particular emotive kind of way.

You don't read my posts, you were arguing against me a point i agreed with you on earlier.

Because as per, you have it in your head im against you, when in reality (look it up and find it, reality is something that'll help you in particular no end) im not against you at all. You just choose not to accept a difference of opinion because you can't handle it!

[Swan]

As one recalls you threatened to embarrass me after I made a dead line about turkey but really it was just a case of going ’round in circles. (Swan.)

Read my other post you moron (i'll take a ban for it, because this guy doesn't address anything i say, would take a ban for integrity over Redway's blatant ignorance)

[Redway]

Delete.

[Redway]

You don't read my posts, you were arguing against me a point i agreed with you on earlier.

Because as per, you have it in your head im against you, when in reality (look it up and find it, reality is something that'll help you in particular no end) im not against you at all. You just choose not to accept a difference of opinion because you can't handle it!

I’m not that paranoid. I just don’t stand for racism-apologetics and I expressed a fact (I don’t consider being anti-racism even an opinion any more than fact) but because you didn’t like what I was saying you resorted to embarrassing yourself by threatening to embarrass me for disagreeing with you. If you think someone has a victim-complex with you just because what they’re saying isn’t in alignment with you I’d re-evaluate the purpose of expressing a contrary ‘opinion.’

[Swan]

See above Redway and smash that report button!!!

[Mystic Mock]

You're about as intellectual as Joey Essex.

Joey Essex is a very clever man academically.

[Alf]

It has nothing to do with exclusion . You don't have an issue with children in need only focusing on UK children......do you??.

And you don't have issue with LGBTQ charities do you ?.

Or what about female domestic charities in general?, When there's male domestic abuse victims.
Focusing solely on children is not racist. But excluding based solely on ethnicity is.

There's a difference there.

This lady does her charity in Hackney. If a White lady from Hackney came to her charity for help and she was told "you're not getting our help because you're White" then that is racist.

You want to put the theory to the test then start a charity in your home town and make that charity specifically for White people. See how far you get. You'll be all over the news, seen as a racist, lose your job and your charity would be shut down.

[Redway]

Read my other post you moron (i'll take a ban for it, because this guy doesn't address anything i say, would take a ban for integrity over Redway's blatant ignorance)

I love the fact that you’re more offended - even to the point of out-and-out insulting someone in the most laughable way, a level I haven’t stooped to on this thread - by your reverse-ignorance than I am. Sheriff and I are certainly no big fans of each-other but at least he presents a reasoned argument about what he thinks and doesn’t come from a place of totally hypocritical sentimental emotion. Trying to hold a conversation with you and LeatherTrumpet (not that you’re pure bait like he is) is more trouble than it’s worth but here I am. Here we are, going back-and-forth.

[GoldHeart]

But they are not just for white people :shrug:

If they were there would be uproar….do you not get my point?

I didn't say they were , you're just twisting my words ..
Which is fine ... seems to happen alot on Tibb .

A charity focusing on Asian & black women due to cultural differences ...is racist to you ? . Despite the fact there's a few domestic charities helping women in general?.

How do you feel about the male domestic abuse victims having limited places for support???

[Redway]

See above Redway and smash that report button!!!

Worse insults to other members have been left to slide so I’m not going to give you the attention or satisfaction of reporting you. Especially considering it comes from a place which is so laughably non-offensive. You couldn’t insult someone properly if your life depended on it so I’m just chuckling, really.

[Redway]

Focusing solely on children is not racist. But excluding based solely on ethnicity is.

There's a difference there.

This lady does her charity in Hackney. If a White lady from Hackney came to her charity for help and she was told "you're not getting our help because you're White" then that is racist.

You want to put the theory to the test then start a charity in your home town and make that charity specifically for White people. See how far you get. You'll be all over the news, seen as a racist, lose your job and your charity would be shut down.

Does having black-specific business/charities (including barber-shops, which have to be that way for obvious reasons and should be) equate to believing black people are superior to whites (key word being superiority, because that’s what racism’s based on belief-wise) or is it just a case of providing a service for people with specific cultural needs and experiences?

[Mystic Mock]

But when people speak up in defense and raise awareness of White girls who have been groomed and raped in the UK, those people are labelled racists and islamaphobes.

We can't have Tommy Robinson raising awareness about those issues, can we?

I do agree with you that this country was a disgrace with how we let those Paedophile rings off the hook.

[Redway]

Sounds like you're suggesting that this constant demonising of White people as racists is done as revenge for colonialism?

By the the way, many ethnicities have played their part in colonising in history.

Maybe it reads that way to you but I’m definitely not saying that.

[Mystic Mock]

Sometimes I wish there was an actual Big Brother house specifically for TiBB members to assemble face-to-face and settle their differences.

Make it happen, Davina.

I'd be watching it for certain.:joker:

[Redway]

I'd be watching it for certain.:joker:

You’d be in it, man.

[GoldHeart]

What are you on about??? When have i said im against charities for black and asian women?

Are you sure you have the right poster? And yeah it would be a GREAT THING!

Well people keep saying it's 'racist ' , when there's charities focusing on different ethnicity backgrounds :idc: .

So I guess LGBTQ charities are straight ophobes .

[Alf]

Does having black-specific business/charities (including barber-shops, which have to be that way for obvious reasons and should be) equate to believing black people are superior to whites (key word being superiority, because that’s what racism’s based on belief-wise) or is it just a case of providing a service for people with specific cultural needs and experiences?Personally, I couldn't care less that this lady's charity only caters for specific ethnicities, and most people are also not bothered about it. The problem here is that she's put herself into the light by being a professional race-baiter. So now she's getting called out for her own hypocrisy.

The difference is, that if it was a specific White charity, then people would be bothered by it and that charity would be called out, demonised and shut down without any of its members putting themselves into the light.

[Mystic Mock]

Certain black people have been living in Liverpool (brought against their will owing to the slave-trade) for the past 350 years (and that’s not even the half of it). Did you know that?

Typical Liverpool.:hehe:

I'm sorry, I couldn't resist.:laugh:

[Swan]

Worse insults to other members have been left to slide so I’m not going to give you the attention or satisfaction of reporting you. Especially considering it comes from a place which is so laughably non-offensive. You couldn’t insult someone properly if your life depended on it so I’m just chuckling, really.

Im glad, i never want to offend anybody. If you think you're better at offending than me, great, more power to you. Just shows how morally inapt you are, if making fun of someone for NOT being insulting makes you chuckle, then so be it. Just showing your true colours, aren't you?!

I don't need to embarrass you, you do that yourself with posts like that!

[Redway]

Typical Liverpool.:hehe:

I'm sorry, I couldn't resist.:laugh:

It’s fine but Liverpool’s actually one of the most diverse cities in the country and it has a very unique history with black and Chinese communities. It’s not the backwards dump only good for football, drinking in town and a select-few posh areas that some people seem to think it is.

[Redway]

Im glad, i never want to offend anybody. If you think you're better at offending than me, great, more power to you. Just shows how morally inapt you are, if making fun of someone for NOT being insulting makes you chuckle, then so be it. Just showing your true colours, aren't you?!

LMFAO.

[Redway]

And you wonder why I don’t take you seriously, Swan?

[Swan]

And you wonder why I don’t take you seriously, Swan?

Ok Redway. As you were.

[Swan]

And you wonder why I don’t take you seriously, Swan?

Just to clarify, i wouldn't ever care if someone like you took me seriously or not.

[Redway]

Just to clarify, i wouldn't ever care if someone like you took me seriously or not.

So why do you keep using exclamations, replying twice to the same person in a row and making it nothing other than very clear that you really, really don’t like it when people put you to the side or disagree with you?

[Mystic Mock]

You’d be in it, man.

My eviction percentage would be very high.:joker:

[Redway]

My eviction percentage would be very high.:joker:

No higher than mine, like.

[Swan]

So why do you keep using exclamations, replying twice to the same person in a row and making it nothing other than very clear that you really, really don’t like it when people put you to the side or disagree with you?

What are you even on about lol? You couldn't handle the debate, so went from this bollocks to animal abuse? Why on earth do you make some weird connection with black people and animals? Have a look at yourself Red.

[Redway]

What are you even on about lol? You couldn't handle the debate, so went from this bollocks to animal abuse? Why on earth do you make some weird connection with black people and animals? Have a look at yourself Red.

Yeah, this nonsense isn’t worth the time. Even with LeatherTrumpet you get some sense that it’s worth the finger-ache to keep replying. You’re unbelievably sentimental and word-twisting in debate so between us it stops here.

[Swan]

Yeah, this nonsense isn’t worth the time. Even with LeatherTrumpet you get some sense that it’s worth the finger-ache to keep replying. You’re unbelievably sentimental and word-twisting in debate so between us it stops here.

Thou who protest too much....

Later....

[Mystic Mock]

It’s fine but Liverpool’s actually one of the most diverse cities in the country and it has a very unique history with black and Chinese communities. It’s not the backwards dump only good for football, drinking in town and a select-few posh areas that some people seem to think it is.

Well as someone that does have a fascination with Asian culture then that's not a bad thing for me.

[Mystic Mock]

No higher than mine, like.

We can be the Sezer & Nicole of ITV Big Brother.:joker:

[Redway]

Well as someone that does have a fascination with Asian culture then that's not a bad thing for me.

Aww. What is it about Asia that really fascinates you?

[rusticgal]

I didn't say they were , you're just twisting my words ..
Which is fine ... seems to happen alot on Tibb .

A charity focusing on Asian & black women due to cultural differences ...is racist to you ? . Despite the fact there's a few domestic charities helping women in general?.

How do you feel about the male domestic abuse victims having limited places for support???

I am not twisting your words…you said there are groups for predominantly white people…that may be the case if it was in a predominantly white area….but they would not turn away people if they were Black or of a minority group and if they did that that would be wrong.
I understand that there may be a cultural understanding within some groups but no charity should imo discriminate in any form whatsoever…

[GoldHeart]

I am not twisting your words…you said there are groups for predominantly white people…that may be the case if it was in a predominantly white area….but they would not turn away people if they were Black or of a minority group and if they did that that would be wrong.
I understand that there may be a cultural understanding within some groups but no charity should imo discriminate in any form whatsoever…

Oh for godsake
It is not discrimination to have charities focusing on black and Asian women, you admit you realise there's cultural reasons ...so why are you saying it's discrimination?, What about if there's a language barrier even ? .And like I said ..how do we know white women are being refused help from said charities. You make it sound like there's no other charities out there helping women in general from all walks of life.

How far do you go with this?, are you going to say black hairdressers who specialise in afro Carribbean & African hair are racist aswell? , despite the fact other salons don't always know how to treat their hair.

If so then all the other charities & businesses out there are racist , homophobic , ageist , sexist and so on :idc: .

[Swan]

Oh for godsake
It is not discrimination to have charities focusing on black and Asian women, you admit you realise there's cultural reasons ...so why are you saying it's discrimination?, What about if there's a language barrier even ? .And like I said ..how do we know white women are being refused help from said charities. You make it sound like there's no other charities out there helping women in general from all walks of life.

How far do you go with this?, are you going to say black hairdressers who specialise in afro Carribbean & African hair are racist aswell? , despite the fact other salons don't always know how to treat their hair.

If so then all the other charities & businesses out there are racist , homophobic , ageist , sexist and so on :idc: .

I get what you're saying tbh, as in certain non white cultures, they treat women worst than dogs, so more help is probably needed.

[rusticgal]

Oh for godsake
It is not discrimination to have charities focusing on black and Asian women, you admit you realise there's cultural reasons ...so why are you saying it's discrimination?, What about if there's a language barrier even ? .And like I said ..how do we know white women are being refused help from said charities. You make it sound like there's no other charities out there helping women in general from all walks of life.

How far do you go with this?, are you going to say black hairdressers who specialise in afro Carribbean & African hair are racist aswell? , despite the fact other salons don't always know how to treat their hair.

If so then all the other charities & businesses out there are racist , homophobic , ageist , sexist and so on :idc: .


The Sistahspace website clarifies it is only for supporting African and Caribbean heritage victims….
Show me a charitable website that is for only helping white people…OR people of British descent :shrug:

[Redway]

Oh for godsake
It is not discrimination to have charities focusing on black and Asian women, you admit you realise there's cultural reasons ...so why are you saying it's discrimination?, What about if there's a language barrier even ? .And like I said ..how do we know white women are being refused help from said charities. You make it sound like there's no other charities out there helping women in general from all walks of life.

How far do you go with this?, are you going to say black hairdressers who specialise in afro Carribbean & African hair are racist aswell? , despite the fact other salons don't always know how to treat their hair.

If so then all the other charities & businesses out there are racist , homophobic , ageist , sexist and so on :idc: .

According to the logic of some people on this thread Tuesday-night bingo should be considered ageist by virtue of the fact that there are (probably) more 60+ people in there than anyone else.

[Redway]

The Sistahspace website clarifies it is only for supporting African and Caribbean heritage victims….
Show me a charitable website that is for only helping white people…OR people of British descent :shrug:

I’ll ask again, why do you think white people generally need specific protection in the U.K. just because of the colour of their skin?

[Swan]

Like in certain Islam countries you are killed for being gay. Like in certain African countries young girls are robbed of sexual pleasure, and are summoned to bread for their men. Like when girls and women are robbed of education. Beaten, and killed for showing independence, all in the name of Islam.

But, but, the west is the enemy. Funny who they all risk their lives to flee here. Funny how we house and help these people. But we're the racists?

[GoldHeart]

According to the logic of some people on this thread Tuesday-night bingo should be considered ageist by virtue of the fact that there are (probably) more 60+ people in there than anyone else.

And the funny thing with bingo is ... different age groups take part more so these days.

[GoldHeart]

Like in certain Islam countries you are killed for being gay. Like in certain African countries young girls are robbed of sexual pleasure, and are summoned to bread for their men. Like when girls and women are robbed of education. Beaten, and killed for showing independence, all in the name of Islam.

But, but, the west is the enemy. Funny who they all risk their lives to flee here. Funny how we house and help these people. But we're the racists?

Who said every British white person is racist though?? , i think we're getting a bit silly now. This is exactly why i get fed up of politics as both the left side especially the hard left are crazy , and the hard right are also crazy.

You mentioned some good points, so surely you can see why these charities will specialise in helping these people from different backgrounds.

[Mystic Mock]

Aww. What is it about Asia that really fascinates you?

Cuisine
Their own festive holidays such as White Day
Seeing some great historical things like The Great Wall Of China.

Also I am big on entertainment, so seeing some of the Japanese Noh Theatre would be quite cool, or checking out some South Korean Manhwa.

I'm probably missing some stuff off of my list.:laugh:

[Oliver_W]

Marlene Headley :hehe:

I wonder why she didn't say she was from Willesden when asked where she's from :hmm:

[Oliver_W]

Certain black people have been living in Liverpool (brought against their will owing to the slave-trade) for the past 350 years

Who taught them the secret to eternal life?!

[Crimson Dynamo]

PETER HITCHENS: Lady Susan, you’ve been cancelled by Twitter. No defence is allowed. Goodbye

In my case, the answer to the question ‘Where are you really from?’ is quite complicated. I wasn’t born in this country. If my naval officer father hadn’t made a special effort to register me as British before he retired, I might well be stateless. Some of my forebears weren’t born here either. I am rather wary of the sort of people who are interested in the subject, and I’m not about to give you all the details.

Nor would I take kindly to a complete stranger reaching out a hand to move my hair or clothing, especially so as to read my name-badge. Why not simply ask her name? Touching people without their permission is just rude. Anyway, I hate name-badges and resist attempts to make me wear them. They’re a step along the road to the society where we all wear barcodes stapled to our ears, like cattle.

So I can see why Ngozi Fulani, head of the charity Sistah Space, bridled when Lady Susan Hussey allegedly moved her hair, and allegedly said the things that have been reported. I say ‘allegedly’ because I’ve yet to hear any independent account of the exchange. This wouldn’t matter if it were a private dispute and had no outcome. But it has led to the public degradation of a prominent courtier, by the office of the actual Head of State, which is a real and damaging penalty.

So the good old Presumption of Innocence applies, not that anyone will care. As far as I know, the exchange was not recorded. Any recollection of it will be influenced by what was put on the internet. And if Lady Susan Hussey has an ounce of sense, she knows there’s not the slightest point in contesting the story.

https://images.lbc.co.uk/images/544095?crop=16_9&width=660&relax=1&signature=nSQvj1i1KMvsaeB7yipIIlnVG6E=

The nation’s High Court of Opinion, Twitter, has reached its verdict and pronounced its sentence of cancellation. No defence allowed. Goodbye, Lady Susan, and thanks for all the curtseys.

Even so, I wish I could hear the defence, as the behaviour alleged is so stupid and clumsy it is distressing to think that such a person, generally praised and liked by those who have dealt with her, was capable of it. And then there is this question. Why and for what purpose was this disastrous conversation put out on the web? In Ms Fulani’s interview with Mishal Husain on BBC Radio 4, she describes how she asked herself: ‘How do I handle this situation kindly and carefully?’

People who say that age has nothing to do with it should also note that Ms Fulani disagrees with them. She said: ‘In my culture we respect people that are elders.’ And I am very much with her there, especially now I’m old. It is amazing how many people in this country use ‘old’ as a term of scorn. Very well then. Does Ngozi Fulani think it was either kind or careful to go public with her account of the conversation? Did her behaviour show respect for elders? Couldn’t it have been dealt with privately? The King, I am absolutely sure, would have paid attention to any such complaint from a person he has known and encouraged for more than 20 years.

Two hard, grim issues arise from this dismal episode. The first is that public denunciation, the electronic show trial, has become an acceptable form of justice, against which there is no obvious defence. As Bill Clinton’s henchman James Carville pointed out: ‘While you’re explaining, you’re losing.’ It shouldn’t be so. The other thing is yet another reminder that the British Revolution has happened.

Nobody has actually guillotined the King, because he now has no power at all, not even the power to defend those close to him. It is easier to leave him where he is because it deludes people into thinking the country is still as it was.

But if he ever got in the way of the Left-wing project, Twitter and the BBC would tear him to shreds. The Palace has been praised for the swiftness of its ruthless response to the Hussey affair. I do not see why. Fear is a normal and often essential motivation in human life, and it is usually wise to heed it. But it is never praiseworthy.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-11498729/PETER-HITCHENS-Lady-Susan-youve-cancelled-Twitter-No-defence-allowed-Goodbye.html

[Beso]

The accounts for sista space have administration costs at zero in 2019 and 2020, they then leap up to £47,467.00 in 2021.

Marlene signed a declaration on behalf of the trustees that stated no audit of the year ending books was needed.

[The Slim Reaper]

For the people at the back

Absolutely I can agree. I'm not sure this incident was purposefully racist. I do think however, that it was a racist conversation. As Dave (the rapper) said "it is racist, whether or not it feels racist."

I think she is of an age, and from an era and class that would put her squarely in the white supremacy mix. That doesn't mean she had a skinhead and was marching with neo nazi's. It just means that it was accepted and normal in her circles so likely to permeate subconsciously.

I'm sure not one cracker in these threads would feel happy with any stranger at a party coming up to them, messing with their hair, and repeating the same things over and over at them, in a slightly different way each time, and that's without the life experiences of the complainant thrown in. Most black people in their 30's/40's will tell you they were racially abused as children at some point. So many complicated issues at play.

I don't think 2 sides are the same here, because one side is telling a potential victim how they should act when being racially abused, how she has an agenda, what constitutes an interrogation eyc, and the other side is simply saying this is a bit nuts, none of you know what it's like.

I'll also make one final point to you, as I know we've discussed it before. Lady Haha has been allowed to drift off back to her life without any issues, no one has tried to track her down or gone for her, she resigned and has peace.

The same free speech warriors, anti-woke cancel culturists, have done nothing but attack the victim for 2 days straight. farage and Wooton doing shows about her, Galahads on twitter trying to track down her tax information etc. That's cancel culture, not a couple of dweebs on twitter threatening to stop eating at Gordon Ramsey's restaurant if he has foie gras on the menu.

[rusticgal]

I’ll ask again, why do you think white people generally need specific protection in the U.K. just because of the colour of their skin?

When did I say they need specific protection?

[Crimson Dynamo]

For the people at the back

David Lammey did a whole show on her today, JOB did too. In fact if you listened to News Radio you will find the vast majority did as did all TV news outlets and Newspaper media

So your points that you are so fond of are nonsense

Of course, Nigel and Dan will cover is a big new story. And i am quite sure your hard left twitter feed was awash with faux outrage too :joker:

[The Slim Reaper]

David Lammey did a whole show on her today, JOB did too. In fact if you listened to News Radio you will find the vast majority did as did all TV news outlets and Newspaper media

So your points that you are so fond of are nonsense

Of course, Nigel and Dan will cover is a big new story. And i am quite sure your hard left twitter feed was awash with faux outrage too :joker:

Read the bit in bold, then read the post directly above it :smug:

[Redway]

When did I say they need specific protection?

Exactly, love. Exactly.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Exactly, love. Exactly.

i dont think we need sexism on Tibb thanks

[Redway]

i dont think we need sexism on Tibb thanks

We certainly don’t need racism either, Mr ‘a man’s not a man until he’s had a daughter.’

[Crimson Dynamo]

Read the bit in bold, then read the post directly above it :smug:

We certainly don’t need racism either, Mr ‘a man’s not a man until he’s had a daughter.’

you lads supporting the 3 Lions tonite?

:fc:

[Oliver_W]

For the people at the back

Ms Headley stepped into the spotlight and made a dubious claim, no-one forced her to get a lady to resign for asking her a question.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Ms Headley stepped into the spotlight and made a dubious claim, no-one forced her to get a lady to resign for asking her a question.

can you imagine what she is like in person?

:umm2:

[Oliver_W]

can you imagine what she is like in person?

:umm2:

I don't really care tbh, how nice she is or isn't is unlikely to touch my life :shrug: I will say she has Karen vibes though.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I don't really care tbh, how nice she is or isn't is unlikely to touch my life :shrug: I will say she has Karen vibes though.

100%

rather ironic for those actively cheerleading her.,..

:skull:

[AnnieK]

Ms Headley stepped into the spotlight and made a dubious claim, no-one forced her to get a lady to resign for asking her a question.

No-one forced the lady to ask her questions :shrug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

No-one forced the lady to ask her questions :shrug:

yes how dare a host ask a guest a question

racist bitch

:oh:

[AnnieK]

yes how dare a host ask a guest a question

racist bitch

:oh:

Keep reaching.....:laugh:
Oliver said "no-one forced her to get a lady to resign for asking her a question" You've not commented on that post, even though its ludicrous in its assumption

It's a simple response really. I highly doubt, whatever Ngozis feelings towards the Monarchy, she set out to get Lady H to resign. I'm sure she'd probably never heard of her before the function, like the rest of the UK

[Crimson Dynamo]

Keep reaching.....:laugh:
Oliver said "no-one forced her to get a lady to resign for asking her a question"

It's a simple response really. I highly doubt, whatever Ngozis feelings towards the Monarchy, she set out to get Lady H to resign. I'm sure she'd probably never heard of her before the function, like the rest of the UK

yes sure, a rabid anti-monarchist would be desperate to go to such a function

:joker:

get the garb on..

lets do this sistahs

[Oliver_W]

Keep reaching.....:laugh:
Oliver said "no-one forced her to get a lady to resign for asking her a question"

It's a simple response really. I highly doubt, whatever Headley's feelings towards the Monarchy, she set out to get Lady H to resign. I'm sure she'd probably never heard of her before the function, like the rest of the UK

What else would she be hoping to achieve by banging on about it?

Though to be fair, I think she was more interested in raising her own profile and making money, than gettting anyone to face consequences.

[AnnieK]

yes sure, a rabid anti-monarchist would be desperate to go to such a function

:joker:

get the garb on..

lets do this sistahs

To be fair the Palace may need to look at their staff then. It's not like she rocked up without an invite....who has done the research? Shoddy at best. The Palace dtaff dropping the ball :nono: Need to train the staff better then if they don't want them inviting the riff raff eh LT?

[Crimson Dynamo]

To be fair the Palace may need to look at their staff then. It's not like she rocked up without an invite....who has done the research? Shoddy at best. The Palace dtaff dropping the ball :nono: Need to train the staff better then if they don't want them inviting the riff raff eh LT?

yes she should never have be invited

[AnnieK]

What else would she be hoping to achieve by banging on about it?

Though to be fair, I think she was more interested in raising her own profile and making money, than gettting anyone to face consequences.

Quite possibly, she's an obvious anti monarchist. As I've said to LT, its not like she hid it.....it's in her socials open to the world...free speech yeah?

If the the staff who work for the Royals want to question people, they need to make sure the people they question are open to it. Its a rookie mistake, they shouldn't invite people looking to highlight the classism and indirect racsim that can happen at these events if can't guarantee that it won't happen

[AnnieK]

yes she should never have be invited

The buck lies with whoever did then.....don't see their resignation coming so twice she's been thrown under the bus by the palace,once by William's team and once by the silence of the person who sanctioned the invite

[Crimson Dynamo]

The buck lies with whoever did then.....don't see their resignation coming so twice she's been thrown under the bus by the palace,once by William's team and once by the silence of the person who sanctioned the invite

the dignified silence rather highlights the distressing behavior by the fake name-change lady

sad really for her and her not very inclusive charity

[Cherie]

yes sure, a rabid anti-monarchist would be desperate to go to such a function

:joker:

get the garb on..

lets do this sistahs

she has been invited to the palace and a picture has emerged of her sitting next to Charles at another function, for someone who hates the monarchy she sure likes to mingle

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/charles-invites-ngozi-fulani-to-buckingham-palace-after-racism-row/ar-AA14TniA

I assume she is too tramatised to go :sad:

[AnnieK]

the dignified silence rather highlights the distressing behavior by the fake name-change lady

sad really for her and her not very inclusive charity

Why is Lady H the only one who has been forced to resign. Wills office has condemned her words and applauded her resignation....but if the lady's charity is so dubious and "racist" and her twitter history is so anti monarchy, who was responsible for due diligence at the Palace? They are at least, partly to blame for allowing an inflammatory guest. Poor Lady H, thrown under the bus by the Palace and William's team by not doing the minimal socials search on a guest and warning the staff that there may be caution advised. Standard busineas acumen to research your clients/guests. Someone been lazy

[rusticgal]

she has been invited to the palace and a picture has emerged of her sitting next to Charles at another function, for someone who hates the monarchy she sure likes to mingle

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/charles-invites-ngozi-fulani-to-buckingham-palace-after-racism-row/ar-AA14TniA

I assume she is too tramatised to go :sad:


Looking for an opportunity maybe :shrug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Why is Lady H the only one who has been forced to resign. Wills office has condemned her words and applauded her resignation....but if the lady's charity is so dubious and "racist" and her twitter history is so anti monarchy, who was responsible for due diligence at the Palace? They are at least, partly to blame for allowing an inflammatory guest. Poor Lady H, thrown under the bus by the Palace and William's team by not doing the minimal socials search on a guest and warning the staff that there may be caution advised. Standard busineas acumen to research your clients/guests. Someone been lazy

Wills office has condemned her words

Google translate: Wills office has negated social media faux outrage by white 20 year old left winger students and old dyed hair corbenites

and boy did it work

did they believe in what they did?

f no

[Redway]

Keep reaching.....:laugh:
Oliver said "no-one forced her to get a lady to resign for asking her a question" You've not commented on that post, even though its ludicrous in its assumption

It's a simple response really. I highly doubt, whatever Ngozis feelings towards the Monarchy, she set out to get Lady H to resign.I'm sure she'd probably never heard of her before the function, like the rest of the UK

Right. When you’ve been treated unfairly/very badly you absolutely have the right to speak out and (politely if the situation calls for it) call people out without having some sort of bizarre ulterior motive and generally being represented in a way that has you feeling more misunderstood than you already are. No doubt the ignorant Bobs and Karens out there who aren’t aware of the subtleties of racism will rant about the world going mad and not being allowed to have a conversation/ask someone a question anymore but at the end of the day Ngozi (she probably changed her name to that because she did a d.n.a. test and found out her Caribbean lineage has some sort of Igbo ancestry in it, which certainly isn’t uncommon; a lot of black Americans, esp. those from Virginia and Maryland, change their name to Igbo ones for the same reason, as a way of getting closer to their ancestral homeland/roots) didn’t go in there expecting to be interrogated or to have an elderly lady sacked. She spoke out (as she had every right to) and Lady Hussey faced the consequences. I doubt she would’ve resigned without public question if there wasn’t at least some veracity to what Ngozi’s said.

[AnnieK]

Wills office has condemned her words

Google translate: Wills office has negated social media faux outrage by white 20 year old left winger students and old dyed hair corbenites

and boy did it work

did they believe in what they did?

f no

Well more fool them. What kind of example is that to set when you pander? There is no way this story would have got the traction it has if they had stuck to the "don't complain, don't explain"mantra. THEY are who have thrown this lady under the bus.....maybe because she's not"family" its ok to make a scapegoat??? Smokescreen if you please

[Crimson Dynamo]

Right. When you’ve been treated unfairly/very badly you absolutely have the right to speak out and (politely if the situation calls for it) call people out without having some sort of bizarre ulterior motive and generally being represented in a way that has you feeling more misunderstood than you already are. No doubt the ignorant Bobs and Karens out there who aren’t aware of the subtleties of racism will rant about the world going mad and not being allowed to have a conversation/ask someone a question anymore but at the end of the day Ngozi (she probably changed her name to that because she did a d.n.a. test and found out her Caribbean lineage has some sort of Igbo ancestry in it, which certainly isn’t uncommon; a lot of black Americans, esp. those from Virginia and Maryland, change their name to Igbo ones for the same reason, as a way of getting closer to their ancestral homeland/roots) didn’t go in there expecting to be interrogated or to have an elderly lady sacked. She spoke out (as she had every right to) and Lady Hussey faced the consequences. I doubt she would’ve resigned without public question if there wasn’t at least some veracity to what Ngozi’s said.

expecting to be interrogated

2022 when, hi how are you equates to waterboarding to push a fake hard left narrative

:laugh2:

[Redway]

expecting to be interrogated

2022 when, hi how are you equates to waterboarding to push a fake hard left narrative

:laugh2:

But it wasn’t a simple “hi, how are you?” and I’m convinced that you do actually know this.

[Cherie]

Still waiting for the two other ladies who were part of this conversation to confirm or deny :whistle:

[Crimson Dynamo]

But it wasn’t a simple “hi, how are you?” and I’m convinced that you do actually know this.

no she was tied to a chair and slapped with a leather driving glove for not saying where she was from originally

name change

outfit

[Jordan.]

nothing but respect for Lady Fulani she has handled this ordeal so well.

[AnnieK]

Still waiting for the two other ladies who were part of this conversation to confirm or deny :whistle:

Why would they? Whichever side they confirm or demt, their lives will be ****. They will eother be doxxed or classed as racists...would you put that **** in your life willingly? They will have theor heads firmly in sand hoping no-one comes.for them, and understandably so

[Redway]

By the way, LeatherTrumpet, I’m still awaiting your response on the Nana-video I posted (where she was pointing out how ridiculous it was for that white footballer who’s not even Italian or Portuguese to insinuate that he was victim to racism growing up because he had nice olive skin). Or do you only publicly agree with her when it suits your agenda and she’s pandering to the ‘let’s-gaslight-and-mock-this-next-black-woman’ narrative?

[Cherie]

In my view if you are representing your British run charity and do not want to draw attention to your background then turn up in conventional business clothes, if I turned up dressesd as a leprechaun I would expect questions to be centred on that rather than why I was actually there

[Cherie]

Why would they? Whichever side they confirm or demt, their lives will be ****. They will eother be doxxed or classed as racists...would you put that **** in your life willingly? They will have theor heads firmly in sand hoping no-one comes.for them, and understandably so

Really? If you believe someone was racially abused you would stick your head in the sand...okay

The silence speaks volumes

[Redway]

I understood people vilifying Uju Anya for that disgusting anti-monarchical death-wish she directed towards the Queen in those last few hours (that really was bloody shameful) and I was one of the people who were (understandably) very against that but this is completely different.

[Cherie]

I understood people vilifying Uju Anya for that disgusting anti-monarchical death-wish she directed towards the Queen in those last few hours (that really was bloody shameful) and I was one of the people who were (understandably) very against that but this is completely different.

No idea what this has got to do with the discussion?

[Redway]

No idea what this has got to do with the discussion?

That’s exactly the point. This woman’s been treated with more vilification and opposition than Anya and the last I heard she didn’t send anyone any death-threats or even so much as insult anyone. That’s what I find most-bizarre in all this.

[Cherie]

That’s exactly the point. This woman’s been treated with more vilification and opposition than Anya and the last I heard she didn’t send anyone any death-threats or even so much as insult anyone. That’s what I find most-bizarre in all this.

Oh gotcha

[Crimson Dynamo]

That’s exactly the point. This woman’s been treated with more vilification and opposition than Anya and the last I heard she didn’t send anyone any death-threats or even so much as insult anyone. That’s what I find most-bizarre in all this.

"This woman’s been treated with more vilification and opposition"

evidence m'lord

has she been sacked?

no

has she been on all media peddling her lies?
yes

get real :joker:

[AnnieK]

Really? If you believe someone was racially abused you would stick your head in the sand...okay

The silence speaks volumes

Considering Ngozi has had her life, finances, background etc etc dipped.into, why would you come.out?

People on this forum have slagged off the radicals who have doxxed and issied death threats to JK Rowling, why would a member of the public who have attended a functiob open themselves up the that level of abuse from the baying.mob. I'm not racist, I'm quite proud to say I'm very left leaning but I would be dubious to open my life, and my familes to that level of digging for someone I'd met at a function. Are you saying you'd risk yours and your families online / real life safety for a stranger?

[Cherie]

Considering Ngozi has had her life, finances, background etc etc dipped.into, why would you come.out?

People on this forum have slagged off the radicals who have doxxed and issied death threats to JK Rowling, why would a member of the public who have attended a functiob open themselves up the that level of abuse from the baying.mob. I'm not racist, I'm quite proud to say I'm very left leaning but I would be dubious to open my life, and my familes to that level of digging for someone I'd met at a function. Are you saying you'd risk yours and your families online / real life safety for a stranger?



The press know exactly who these two ladies are, it’s no secret

All that has to be said is they declined to comment, but it seems the press are not that interested

[AnnieK]

The press know exactly who these two ladies are, it’s no secret

All that has to be said is they declined to comment, but it seems the press are not that interested

That doesn't create headlines though, not the ladies fault. The MSM have an agenda, you can't balme the ladies for that

[Redway]

Oh gotcha
Yeah.

How are you, by the way? It’s been a minute.
"This woman’s been treated with more vilification and opposition"

evidence m'lord

has she been sacked?

no

has she been on all media peddling her lies?
yes

get real :joker:

Anya didn’t exactly lose her job (not as far as I can remember) or get done for abuse for that disgusting comment (whether she should or shouldn’t have is another story) and was pretty-much forgotten about after two days. This Marlene ting has been dragging for a whole week and very-few people seem to be supporting her or capable of understanding the nuances of racism that I really do strongly believe (without a doubt) that she was victim to that afternoon.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yeah.

How are you, by the way? It’s been a minute.


Anya didn’t exactly lose her job (not as far as I can remember) or get done for abuse for that disgusting comment (whether she should or shouldn’t have is another story) and was pretty-much forgotten about after two days. This Marlene ting has been dragging for a whole week and very-few people seem to be supporting her or capable of understanding the nuances of racism that I really do strongly believe (without a doubt) that she was victim to that afternoon.

yeah, racism is some weird very difficult thing that only black people now can understand

funny that


or is it that fear of bame has been sized on as a power grab...

[Redway]

Considering Ngozi has had her life, finances, background etc etc dipped.into, why would you come.out?

People on this forum have slagged off the radicals who have doxxed and issied death threats to JK Rowling, why would a member of the public who have attended a functiob open themselves up the that level of abuse from the baying.mob. I'm not racist, I'm quite proud to say I'm very left leaning but I would be dubious to open my life, and my familes to that level of digging for someone I'd met at a function. Are you saying you'd risk yours and your families online / real life safety for a stranger?

And that’s exactly where a lot of entitled people with little understanding of conversational/social boundaries (and the average male by his very nature has a harder time understanding the nuances of propriety and where the line has to be drawn between small-talk banter and what’s really quite personal than the average woman but both sexes can overall be bad for it) feel victimised whenever someone sets a boundary with them or makes it clear that they’re not comfortable going that deep into their background or story for the sake of someone they don’t know from a can of carnation milk and probably trust even less. Unless you’re providing a service for them no-one owes a stranger anything beyond stock cordiality and respect. Absolutely nothing.

[Redway]

yeah, racism is some weird very difficult thing that only black people now can understand

funny that


or is it that fear of bame has been sized on as a power grab...

Well, I’m sure anyone who’s experienced racism will understand it better than a cloistered Scot. who race-baits for fun.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Well, I’m sure anyone who’s experienced racism will understand it better than a cloistered Scot. who race-baits for fun.

id imagine most Africans have in Africa - i think i read its the most racist continent in the world, no wonder they all want to come here

[thesheriff443]

Well, I’m sure anyone who’s experienced racism will understand it better than a cloistered Scot. who race-baits for fun.

Most of us on here have got kids older than you, the world is full of people like you that think they know everything but have actually done nothing .

For you just to be in a room with other people is challenge so stop talking down to people that actually lived.

[Redway]

Most of us on here have got kids older than you, the world is full of people like you that think they know everything but have actually done nothing .

For you just to be in a room with other people is challenge so stop talking down to people that actually lived.

I would’ve taken that to heart a bit more if it wasn’t for the way you vilified Liam and Glenn a few pages back for very little. I think I’ll take my chances saying what I like in exactly the same way as you have. We don’t have to agree.

[Redway]

By all means, go off. All you have to direct to people you don’t see eye-to-eye with on this anonymous forum are the same silly shades over and over again on the basis of very little information indeed. After a while it starts losing its credence (assuming it ever had any). Stop telling people what to do, sheriff.

[Redway]

nothing but respect for Lady Fulani she has handled this ordeal so well.

She has.

[UserSince2005]

She’s lucky she didn’t reveal where she’s from so we don’t know where to deport her to when she’s found to be a criminal

[Glenn.]

I would’ve taken that to heart a bit more if it wasn’t for the way you vilified Liam and Glenn a few pages back for very little. I think I’ll take my chances saying what I like in exactly the same way as you have. We don’t have to agree.

He’s not respected in a way he thinks he is. Delusions of grandeur thinking he can speak to people the he wants, yet cries like a snowflake when others do exactly what he does. Constantly berates people for speaking about other members whilst doing just that. Ridiculously hypocritical and hysterically funny.

[Redway]

He’s not respected in a way he thinks he is. Delusions of grandeur thinking he can speak to people the he wants, yet cries like a snowflake when others do exactly what he does. Constantly berates people for speaking about other members whilst doing just that. Ridiculously hypocritical and hysterically funny.

The funniest bit is the way he claims to almost know people (from Meghan Markle to individual FMs) personally when he knows nothing beyond certain of our opinions. Having a total stranger all up in your business like they’ve been following you around personally for years is another level of creepy.

[Glenn.]

The funniest bit is the way he claims to almost know people (from Meghan Markle to individual FMs) personally when he knows nothing beyond certain of our opinions. Having a total stranger all up in your business like they’ve been following you around personally for years is another level of creepy.

It’s very very creepy. Almost as though you’re talked about off site

[Redway]

It’s very very creepy. Almost as though you’re talked about off site

I doubt sheriff has a wide-enough social circle for that to be the case but it does come across that way. I once came across a thread where he claimed to have more-or-less insider-knowledge on Meghan Markle’s allegations and how she didn’t really have a breakdown or suicidal thoughts because one has to be locked in a secure unit and tranqued-up to the eyeballs on clozapine, fluoxetine, lorazepam and lithium to genuinely qualify as having mental health issues, or else it’s there to ridicule and make jokes of. I’m aware that people’s perceptions (however erroneous) of someone or something are often conditioned by their particular life experiences (which naturally aren’t really to do with anyone else) but I can’t for the life of me think what kind of life he’s lived that would make him think the way he does about people who aren’t in exact attitude-alignment with him or that he actually knows anything about them. But at the end of the day when someone only has literally one or two slights they think apply to you and keep repeating it every time you disagree (even if one doesn’t actually have his name in their mouth) you know he knows nothing about the people he claims to understand so well.

[jet]

Going by Ngozi’s out of all proportion and OTT previous tweets…..

“Meghan suffered domestic violence from the Royals!”

“Meghan wasn’t allowed on the balcony during the Jublilee because she was black, RACISTS!” (her capitals.)

She said the incident with SH left her feeling traumatised, abused and violated. As the head of a domestic violence charity, why would a conversation with a 83 yr old who got a bit snippy when she repeatedly dodged answering a question (dressed in traditional attire) cause such feelings? Not buying it. OTT again.

So why wouldn't her word for word remembered ‘transcript’ and the tone in which she said Lady S spoke to her not also be out of proportion and OTT?

[jet]

Redway and Glenn - Quite rightly, sheriff won't care what you think of him in the slightest. :hee:

Chittering away like a pair of ole gossips over the garden fence. :laugh:

[Glenn.]

Redway and Glenn - Quite rightly, sheriff won't care what you think of him in the slightest. :hee:

Chittering away like a pair of ole gossips over the garden fence. :laugh:

We all know how easily triggered he is so I don’t think you’re quite right there :joker:

[Redway]

Redway and Glenn - Quite rightly, sheriff won't care what you think of him in the slightest. :hee:

Chittering away like a pair of ole gossips over the garden fence. :laugh:

Given he insults left, right and centre to people who aren’t even looking in his direction or trying to get his attention I doubt that very much.

[Redway]

We all know how easily triggered he is so I don’t think you’re quite right there :joker:

And at the end of the day no-one on here’s ever actually done anything to sheriff so God knows why he’s so full of hate and trigger-reactions out of nowhere for total strangers on an Internet forum. The hypocrisy is one thing but what’s more baffling is whatever the reason behind all this vitriol and personal assumptions he makes about anybody he doesn’t agree with but aren’t asking for his opinion comes from. The hilariously-sad thing is I think he actually believes what he types and that he has the appropriate measure of everyone and their personal experiences/lives that go on off-site. He might be deluded but he’s not joking.

[Mystic Mock]

Your actually lucky to have this forum where you can actually communicate with older people because in real life people wouldn’t give you the time of day.

That's a bit harsh.

I get that people feel strongly on this topic, but do try to not be personal towards each other.

And no I'm not a Moderator, but I don't want people falling out over a bunch of strangers that you're never gonna interact with.

[Mystic Mock]

Going by Ngozi’s out of all proportion and OTT previous tweets…..

“Meghan suffered domestic violence from the Royals!”

“Meghan wasn’t allowed on the balcony during the Jublilee because she was black, RACISTS!” (her capitals.)

She said the incident with SH left her feeling traumatised, abused and violated. As the head of a domestic violence charity, why would a conversation with a 83 yr old who got a bit snippy when she repeatedly dodged answering a question (dressed in traditional attire) cause such feelings? Not buying it. OTT again.

So why wouldn't her word for word remembered ‘transcript’ and the tone in which she said Lady S spoke to her not also be out of proportion and OTT?

It definitely sounds like she misspoke when it came to the domestic violence thing.

Hopefully that's the case anyway.

[Redway]

That's a bit harsh.

I get that people feel strongly on this topic, but do try to not be personal towards each other.

And no I'm not a Moderator, but I don't want people falling out over a bunch of strangers that you're never gonna interact with.

It’s just who he is, Mock. He has a personal slant against someone for bizarre reasons best-known to him and he believes that gives him special knowledge about that person which he doesn’t have. I’d say Glenn and Liam had it much worse from him circa page 16 (and he tore Meghan to shreds over and over from what I read) but no-one seems to care about that. You shouldn’t actually take him seriously when he goes off on a rant and picks on whatever latest person tickles his disagree-fancy. If he was truly happy and secure in himself he wouldn’t come at every poster bar a certain one or two with needless antagonism but he probably isn’t so he projects and projects onto most people. Better to just ignore him. If he wants to get personal with everyone with a pulse with no personal information to actually go off, that’s his headache. Let him. It’s probably the only thing in his life that gives him joy.

[Mystic Mock]

It’s just who he is, Mock. He has a personal slant against someone for bizarre reasons best-known to him and he believes that gives him special knowledge about that person which he doesn’t have. I’d say Glenn and Liam had it much worse from him circa page 16 (and he tore Meghan to shreds over and over from what I read) but no-one seems to care about that. You shouldn’t actually take him seriously when he goes off on a rant and picks on whatever latest person tickles his disagree-fancy. If he was truly happy and secure in himself he wouldn’t come at every poster bar a certain one or two with needless antagonism but he probably isn’t so he projects and projects onto most people. Better to just ignore him. If he wants to get personal with everyone with a pulse with no personal information to actually go off, that’s his headache. Let him. It’s probably the only thing in his life that gives him joy.

Well hopefully he has calmed down now.

And hopefully himself and Glenn & Liam are doing okay if page 16 of this thread went really personal.

[Josy]

Closing this due it to it being full of insulting and baiting comments about other members.

Discuss the topic NOT other members in future. Thanks