Lancashire :Missing dogwalker's phone found on bench by river , Nicola Bulley, 45

[bots]

running away doesn't leave any evidence. Being hit over the head or dragged from the scene does .... unless the police are covering it up. Falling in the river leaves evidence too, not just a body either

[Oliver_W]

could she really have run off and left her kids, i guess these things happen :shrug:
Some people are just horrible; and some are incredibly desperate. It's impossible to know what happens behind closed doors.
There's no evidence of her running away though.....it doesn't make sense.
There's more evidence that she spontaneously combusted than there is of her falling into the river or walking/being kidnapped via the footpaths.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Partner of Nicola Bulley visits scene with diving expert who says missing mother
did not fall in the water or drift out to sea - as video shows underwater sonar
completing search of stretch of river

DM

[Cherie]

Can someone tell me have they searched the caravan park.......

[Niamh.]

Can someone tell me have they searched the caravan park.......

Is there a caravan park near by? If so wouldn't her dog have went there after her?

[Oliver_W]

I might be remembering wrongly but wasn't the caravan park on the other side of the river and farther along?

[Niamh.]

I might be remembering wrongly but wasn't the caravan park on the other side of the river and farther along?

The fact is, unless she went into the water or away in a vehicle, her dog would have followed her

[GoldHeart]

Everything about this case is just so weird , obviously it must be upsetting for her family & friends aswell.... It's the not knowing what happened which must be driving them mad aswell.

[Oliver_W]

The fact is, unless she went into the water or away in a vehicle, her dog would have followed her

She distracted it with meat before she jumped onto the boat. That's literally the only way the dog wouldn't follow her anywhere.

[GoldHeart]

I keep wondering why nobody heard the dog bark , surely protective instincts would kick in to protecting her owner... including if she fell in the river ,chances are the dog would try and save her and be covered in water ?? :shrug: :think:.

[Oliver_W]

Or to get really tinfoil hat ...

That's not the family dog. At some point during the last walk, she swapped it with a dog of the same breed. That way, it would have no attachment to her, so no reason to want to follow her.

[Niamh.]

She distracted it with meat before she jumped onto the boat. That's literally the only way the dog wouldn't follow her anywhere.

I don't know, not sure I buy that story, why go to all that trouble to "disappear" If she wanted to leave her life, why not just leave the house and never come back? Seems a really dramatic way to run away with an affair partner or whatever you're suggesting. It seems very unlikely

[bots]

Someone else could have held the dog while she popped off

[Niamh.]

Or to get really tinfoil hat ...

That's not the family dog. At some point during the last walk, she swapped it with a dog of the same breed. That way, it would have no attachment to her, so no reason to want to follow her.

Pretty sure her family would know if it wasn't their dog afterwards

[Crimson Dynamo]

no way a mum would leave her kids

problem is if she was taken surely the dog would have barked and or someone would have seen a bloke like people saw her?

[GoldHeart]

I know some dogs can be really docile & quiet ,but usually if there's a threat or if their owner is in danger .....they usually bark and get protective :shrug: . So much doesn't add up with this :conf:.

[Niamh.]

no way a mum would leave her kids

problem is if she was taken surely the dog would have barked and or someone would have seen a bloke like people saw her?

Maybe the dog did bark? How busy was the area? People may not have heard the dog bark

[arista]

[Partner of Nicola Bulley visits
scene with diving expert who says
missing mother did not fall in the water
or drift out to sea - as video shows underwater sonar
completing search of stretch of river
Team of 40 detectives currently working on
around 500 different lines of inquiry
Search has expanded closer to Morecambe Bay,
where river meets the sea]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11726375/Police-say-diving-expert-Nicola-Bulley-search-does-NOT-know-details-investigation.html


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/02/08/11/67459323-11726375-image-a-5_1675857010825.jpg

[bots]

Someone falling into a river that is a foot deep, leaves traces. The stones and sediment would be disturbed. Also, a body doesn't sink in 1 foot of water, so if she was only "alone" for 5 mins, her body would have been visible in the water (assuming she somehow got knocked out) I do believe that the police are now spinning a yarn

[arista]

Someone falling into a river that is a foot deep, leaves traces. The stones and sediment would be disturbed. Also, a body doesn't sink in 1 foot of water, so if she was only "alone" for 5 mins, her body would have been visible in the water (assuming she somehow got knocked out) I do believe that the police are now spinning a yarn



Yes, Police are looking the Wrong way about this

[Niamh.]

Also though, to those suggesting she hopped into a boat, surely a boat would have been spotted by people/somewhat traceable? Even easier than a car would?

[Oliver_W]

Also though, to those suggesting she hopped into a boat, surely a boat would have been spotted by people/somewhat traceable? Even easier than a car would?

Amateur boaters aren't uncommon on that waterway. It'd be like saying there's a book on a shelf.

[Niamh.]

Amateur boaters aren't uncommon on that waterway. It'd be like saying there's a book on a shelf.

Even this time of year though? I live near water myself and yeah if it was maybe from April onwards there'd be plenty of boats around, it would be unusual this time of year though

[Niamh.]

Also those spaniels are really good water dogs, even if she hopped into a boat there's a really strong chance the dog would have tried to follow after, for a while at least

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Kazanne]

no way a mum would leave her kids

problem is if she was taken surely the dog would have barked and or someone would have seen a bloke like people saw her?

Mothers do leave their kids LT i know this as fact.

[GoldHeart]

Mothers do leave their kids LT i know this as fact.

They DO .....but honestly do you think Nicola did that ? , Because I don't .

[Crimson Dynamo]

Mothers do leave their kids LT i know this as fact.

I know they sometimes do but they usually explain why?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Police reject suggestions Nicola Bulley was a victim of crime

Police have rejected suggestions that missing mother-of-two Nicola Bulley could have
been a victim of crime.

Supt Sally Riley, of Lancashire Police, said "every single" potential suspicion
or criminal suggestion that had come in, had been looked at by detectives
and discounted.

She said: 'I would like to reassure the community that nothing in this investigation so
far, it has been checked out if it has come in suggesting crime, it has been checked and discounted.

'So every single potential third party line of inquiry and potential suspicious or criminal

element has been looked at and discounted.

'It does remain our belief that Nicola sadly fell into the river and that this is a missing
persons inquiry.'

(well the diving expert who you lot use says she aint in there m8e)

[Livia]

The police think it wasn't foul play. I guess this is the same "service" that took soooo long to pick up Stephen Port that he was allowed to kill and kill even though all the evidence was there in front of them. I have to say, like millions of others, I've kind of lost faith in what they say or think.

[Kazanne]

They DO .....but honestly do you think Nicola did that ? , Because I don't .

No one knows what goes on,I truly hope its not the case, as her girls will be traumatised, but fact can be stranger than fiction, I dontnow what to thunk about this one tbh.

[Niamh.]

No one knows what goes on,I truly hope its not the case, as her girls will be traumatised, but fact can be stranger than fiction, I dontnow what to thunk about this one tbh.

I mean she would at least not be dead/murdered though if that were the case

[arista]

The police think it wasn't foul play. I guess this is the same "service" that took soooo long to pick up Stephen Port that he was allowed to kill and kill even though all the evidence was there in front of them. I have to say, like millions of others, I've kind of lost faith in what they say or think.


But also said they will keep an open mind.

Having the 2nd Diving Team
using Sonar
is proving she was not in the water
so far.

[AnnieK]

If a boat had come along and she had sailed off into the sunset, surely one of the dog walkers would have seen that? I walk regularly on the river near me and never see any boats, if one were to suddenly be there I would remember that. From what I can gather the part of the river where she went missing is not particularly navigable and boats are rarely seen so I think had that happened someone would have remembered.

[AnnieK]

Mothers do leave their kids LT i know this as fact.

Yeah, me too. It happened to someone close to me too :sad:

[Niamh.]

If a boat had come along and she had sailed off into the sunset, surely one of the dog walkers would have seen that? I walk regularly on the river near me and never see any boats, if one were to suddenly be there I would remember that. From what I can gather the part of the river where she went missing is not particularly navigable and boats are rarely seen so I think had that happened someone would have remembered.

Yeah that's what I was thinking too, I'd be much more likely to notice boats (especially this time of year) than cars etc

[Cherie]

Is there a caravan park near by? If so wouldn't her dog have went there after her?

You would think so unless he was locked out as there is a gate to the field and he was running between the river and the gate

[Niamh.]

You would think so unless he was locked out as there is a gate to the field and he was running between the river and the gate

Oh that's interesting then :think:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Expert diver dramatically ends river search for Nicola Bulley and says she is
NOT in the water hours after police finally admitted she could have left on path
not covered by CCTV cameras - as her partner visits scene

[arista]

Expert diver dramatically ends river search for Nicola Bulley and says she is
NOT in the water hours after police finally admitted she could have left on path
not covered by CCTV cameras - as her partner visits scene


Police need to say Sorry

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/02/08/09/67455709-11726375-image-a-2_1675849441869.jpg
Abandoned house on the River Wyre, next to the area where Nicola Bulley was last seen on January 27.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/02/08/09/67455709-11726375-image-a-2_1675849441869.jpg
Abandoned house on the River Wyre, next to the area where Nicola Bulley was last seen on January 27.


I would want to check if there is a Secret Basement

[Niamh.]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/02/08/09/67455709-11726375-image-a-2_1675849441869.jpg
Abandoned house on the River Wyre, next to the area where Nicola Bulley was last seen on January 27.

Presumably that's been searched? The house I mean

[Crimson Dynamo]

So the police now have the fitbit data so that will conclusively prove that she went in the river or went inland

publish it

[Niamh.]

So the police now have the fitbit data so that will conclusively prove that she went in the river or went inland

publish it

Oh, that's good news

[arista]

Presumably that's been searched? The house I mean


Secret Basements
are not easy to find

[arista]

So the police now have the fitbit data so that will conclusively prove that she went in the river or went inland

publish it


They Refuse

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1623338407857467393/VBJT0RAo?format=jpg&name=small


It is shocking this Expert Diver
gives better info, than the Police

[arista]

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From Early Today.

[thesheriff443]

The problem I see is the independent divers have not been given a briefing by the police so they don’t know anymore than any of us do.

[arista]

The problem I see is the independent divers have not been given a briefing by the police so they don’t know anymore than any of us do.



Yes are Wrong
they have the gear that tells them
She did not go into the River


Police Only say she went in the River
NO UPDATE

Today yet

[Crimson Dynamo]

If she did fall in the river (slid down the bank) she would have entered the water foot first and it would have been like up to her knees

Its ridiculous

[MTVN]

If she's not in the river it could be because she has already been swept out to sea by now

[bots]

the police handling of this has been abysmal, there should be an independent inquiry into their response to it all

[Crimson Dynamo]

If she's not in the river it could be because she has already been swept out to sea by now

The diving expert said that is not possible, there is even a weir just down stream so unless the dead body can jump..

He clearly stated that there is very little current in that part of the river and you need a very powerful current to move a dead body at the bottom of a river

[MTVN]

This 'diving expert' is enjoying being in the limelight a little too much I think

[Crimson Dynamo]

This 'diving expert' is enjoying being in the limelight a little too much I think

https://twitter.com/Chappers2013/status/1623312989666287617?s=20

[arista]

This 'diving expert' is enjoying being in the limelight a little too much I think

I do not agree.

He is Professional



It is the Police Lady in Charge at fault

[Liam-]

This poor woman’s family having to watch all of these social media detectives creating theories about what’s happened to her

[Crimson Dynamo]

This poor woman’s family having to watch all of these social media detectives creating theories about what’s happened to her

Why on earth would they be trawling through "social media"?

Id imagine its the very last thing they are doing

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://twitter.com/olivermiocic/status/1623373509249404928?s=20&t=ZD20DGKJuUFj9O1DU1xCqg

[Crimson Dynamo]

ABN6CByFEb8

[arista]

https://twitter.com/olivermiocic/status/1623373509249404928?s=20&t=ZD20DGKJuUFj9O1DU1xCqg


Yes,
The Police said some of that
was going on.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/02/08/19/67476029-0-image-m-4_1675884084864.jpg

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/02/08/19/67476029-0-image-m-4_1675884084864.jpg

surely to God that was searched on day 1?

[bots]

have the police searched any of the local area apart from the river?

[Oliver_W]

This poor woman’s family having to watch all of these social media detectives creating theories about what’s happened to her

They don't have to do anything, much less waste their time on social media :shrug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[GoldHeart]

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If Nicola was being followed and watched .... then that is the most creepy unsettling thing ever.

[bots]

the diver expert does seem to be a bit full of himself, so that needs to be borne in mind. They perform one task in what is a massive investigation

[MTVN]

1622588110533021697

I don't think that's a man and a woman, just part of the hedge

[Oliver_W]

1622588110533021697

There's no way that's a person. Judging by the apparent distance (based on the path and patch of grass between her and the hedge) and how tall he looks, he'd have to be a midget. Ignoring that, even in the zoomed in part it's clearly just the foliage.

[Mystic Mock]

This poor woman’s family having to watch all of these social media detectives creating theories about what’s happened to her

Not Twitter Poirot.:worry:

Being serious though I think that it's natural to speculate on what happened to her, I honestly don't get some people that I've seen on YouTube in particular who are treating it like it's a three part ITV series though.

[arista]

Not Twitter Poirot.:worry:

Being serious though I think that it's natural to speculate on what happened to her, I honestly don't get some people that I've seen on YouTube in particular who are treating it like it's a three part ITV series though.


So many living in their own world,
and love their own You Tube channel,
as it is free

[Crimson Dynamo]

It comes as a close family friend of the missing mother-of-two, Tilly Ann,
today urged police to search an abandoned house and surrounding
outbuildings a short distance from the river.
(they havent????)

In an updated Facebook post, she wrote: 'The abandoned house and
outbuildings etc have not yet been searched as it is not currently a crime
investigation!!!!!! (This should have been done straight away!).'


It comes after police last night admitted that Nicola could have left the area
with a third party when she vanished during a walk with her springer spaniel
Willow at around 9.20am on January 27.


While police still maintain that she most likely fell into the river,
superintendent Sally Riley, of Lancashire Police, said it remained a
'possibility' that the 45-year-old left the area by one path not covered by
CCTV cameras - but added that 'every single' suspicion or criminal
suggestion had so far been discounted.

DM

[Niamh.]

It comes as a close family friend of the missing mother-of-two, Tilly Ann,
today urged police to search an abandoned house and surrounding
outbuildings a short distance from the river.
(they havent????)

In an updated Facebook post, she wrote: 'The abandoned house and
outbuildings etc have not yet been searched as it is not currently a crime
investigation!!!!!! (This should have been done straight away!).'


It comes after police last night admitted that Nicola could have left the area
with a third party when she vanished during a walk with her springer spaniel
Willow at around 9.20am on January 27.


While police still maintain that she most likely fell into the river,
superintendent Sally Riley, of Lancashire Police, said it remained a
'possibility' that the 45-year-old left the area by one path not covered by
CCTV cameras - but added that 'every single' suspicion or criminal
suggestion had so far been discounted.

DM

Why are they so hell bent on her having fallen in the river? It's a bit weird. Why wouldn't they search that house??

[Crimson Dynamo]

Why are they so hell bent on her having fallen in the river? It's a bit weird. Why wouldn't they search that house??

especially as if she fell in the river she would just climb out as its shallow at the edges and she would have to slip in feet first

[thesheriff443]

We have not heard anything about the Fitbit data

It would show if it stopped registering a heartbeat because she is dead or it was taken off

[thesheriff443]

especially as if she fell in the river she would just climb out as its shallow at the edges and she would have to slip in feet first

Not all drownings are like the movie’s you can drown very quickly

[Niamh.]

especially as if she fell in the river she would just climb out as its shallow at the edges and she would have to slip in feet first

It doesn't seem likely at all looking at that bank alright

[thesheriff443]

You can drown in three inches of water

[Niamh.]

You can drown in three inches of water

You can but if you drown in the shallow water like that, near that bank it doesn't seem likely your body would be washed out so far that they couldn't find it so quickly after you drowned, like the diver said. Plus you'd either have to be knocked out or being held down to drown in water that shallow

[Crimson Dynamo]

Not all drownings are like the movie’s you can drown very quickly

i have watched enough people drown and enough people fall in rivers in my life to know that if she slipped in that river she would stand up and climb out. Plus she didnt as she was not found in that small slow-moving river

[thesheriff443]

i have watched enough people drown and enough people fall in rivers in my life to know that if she slipped in that river she would stand up and climb out. Plus she didnt as she was not found in that small slow-moving river

If it was that easy people would never drown
What about all those that drown in swimming pools

The police can be a joke but they also can be right

I still say she drowned

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://twitter.com/Friendbearx/status/1623384492424548353?s=20&t=RmaJzaUGPCBehyz6irNM5w

[arista]

You can drown in three inches of water

Sure, but she did not

[arista]

Police Now searching the river close to Morcambe bay.

[Crimson Dynamo]

by now if she ever was in the river the body would have bloated up and she would have surfaced

[Cherie]

This is turning into a very strange case...

[Cherie]

https://twitter.com/Friendbearx/status/1623384492424548353?s=20&t=RmaJzaUGPCBehyz6irNM5w

Surely this can’t be true ...?

[arista]

by now if she ever was in the river the body would have bloated up and she would have surfaced

Yes, Police had to put out a statement this morning.


I mean the Police Lady in Charge
saying, do not speculate?


Once, she said that
more visited that area
Some broke into an empty home to look.

[arista]

This is turning into a very strange case...


Police not willing to share all the info,
as it can change their investigation

[Niamh.]

Surely this can’t be true ...?

Doesn't seem to be when you read the comments after the tweet

[Niamh.]

Cherie (sorry it's massive)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fod2cD2XoAE5nGH?format=jpg&name=large

[MTVN]

There's a lot of misinformation being posted. I saw someone say that her company was going bust and you can see there's a proposal to strike it off on Companies House. I looked her up on there and it's not true at all

[Niamh.]

There's a lot of misinformation being posted. I saw someone say that her company was going bust and you can see there's a proposal to strike it off on Companies House. I looked her up on there and it's not true at all

Yeah says the abandoned house was searched in that thing I posted too

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://twitter.com/thismorning/status/1623626753058000896?s=20&t=-phK0WXgg50-xiiiM_XpUw

[Crimson Dynamo]

oh and channel 5 heeding the advice of The Chief inspector and the missing ladies family....:ninja2:

https://twitter.com/mrdanwalker/status/1623620264910110720?s=20&t=-phK0WXgg50-xiiiM_XpUw

[arista]

There's a lot of misinformation being posted. I saw someone say that her company was going bust and you can see there's a proposal to strike it off on Companies House. I looked her up on there and it's not true at all


Yes Of Course

But why can The Police not do a Daily
statement


I am saying to you
The Police have Left a Void

[MTVN]

Yes Of Course

But why can The Police not do a Daily
statement


I am saying to you
The Police have Left a Void

Yes I agree, they have left an information vacuum there

[bots]

the reason social media have gone ape**** is because the police have not said .... this is what we have done, this is what we have discounted because .... this is what we are currently following up on. All they have said is that she must have fallen in the river. Faith in the police is at an all time low and their communications in this case have been dreadful

[Liam-]

People on social media go ape**** because they think they’re experts on everything, make up their own scenarios in their heads based on nothing and then don’t like it when their baseless conspiracies aren’t taken seriously, or don’t come to fruition based on actual evidence and investigating by the experts, it’s regularly turning cases into public circuses

[Oliver_W]

People on social media go ape**** because they think they’re experts on everything, make up their own scenarios in their heads based on nothing and then don’t like it when their baseless conspiracies aren’t taken seriously, or don’t come to fruition based on actual evidence and investigating by the experts, it’s regularly turning cases into public circuses

My (I admit) crackpot theory is apparently more likely than her having fallen in :joker: I don't use twitter so I don't know how common that theory is though.

[arista]

My (I admit) crackpot theory is apparently more likely than her having fallen in :joker: I don't use twitter so I don't know how common that theory is though.

You should join Twitter
there are many things on there
you would like

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://twitter.com/sorensen_ao/status/1623652020526743552?s=20&t=kaOpfj9w2RvC77IFlBNh5g

[Oliver_W]

You should join Twitter
there are many things on there
you would like

There's more stuff that I wouldn't like, it's pretty toxic.

[Cherie]

https://twitter.com/sorensen_ao/status/1623652020526743552?s=20&t=kaOpfj9w2RvC77IFlBNh5g

Tbf women don't need to be told not to walk alone etc, they are not stupid!

and given the police do not suspect third party involvement which they have stated many times why would they advise that?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Tbf women don't need to be told not to walk alone etc, they are not stupid!

and given the police do not suspect third party involvement which they have stated many times why would they advise that?

They now say that she could have gone through the gate and off up the lane

They know she isnt in the river so they must now suspect she was abducted

[arista]

Police Search now at the Sea

Coast Area


https://news.sky.com/story/nicola-bulley-search-for-missing-mother-of-two-moves-to-coastline-at-morecambe-bay-12806835

[Crimson Dynamo]

Police Search now at the Sea

Coast Area


https://news.sky.com/story/nicola-bulley-search-for-missing-mother-of-two-moves-to-coastline-at-morecambe-bay-12806835

FROM THE ARTICLE: "Police had been working on the theory that she fell into
the River Wyre, but her family and friends claimed there was "no evidence
whatsoever" of this."

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://twitter.com/birmingham_live/status/1623700794112372738?s=20&t=2EXhU1GcvP3IKrxNON1Fig

[GoldHeart]

https://twitter.com/birmingham_live/status/1623700794112372738?s=20&t=2EXhU1GcvP3IKrxNON1Fig

A van now !??

I guess the abandoned house was a dead end then , anyone else suspicious of the CCTV being broken :suspect: .

[bots]

we are almost getting in to vigilante territory now. There will have been lots of traffic movements

[Cherie]

https://twitter.com/birmingham_live/status/1623700794112372738?s=20&t=2EXhU1GcvP3IKrxNON1Fig

A worried resident comes forward 2 weeks later?

[GoldHeart]

Is the yellow coat woman ever going to come forward? .

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nicola Bulley diving expert reveals video ‘proof’ she didn’t fall into
the river where cops claim she vanished

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/missing-woman-nicola-bulley-pic-792109247-10.jpg?w=620

Dive expert Peter Faulding says a clip shows the river is slow-moving, which
means she would have sunk "very quickly".

He claims this means Nicola, 45, would have remained near where she
disappeared on January 27 if she'd fallen in.

The forensic expert also says the missing mum could have simply "stood up" in
the water as rocks at the time were under just 2ft of water.

Speaking about the video, Peter said: "The log stayed at that point for 20
minutes, and it actually spiralled and went up six feet and came back to the
same place.

"The river on the day was slightly higher - it was about a foot higher - but I'd
be very surprised in my experience [if she was there] as a body usually goes
to the bottom very quickly.

"If Nicola slipped down the bank, she would have landed in about 2ft of water
but onto rocks, and she could have stood up."

He was yesterday pictured visiting the scene where Nicola was last seen with
her partner Paul Ansell.

Peter claims Paul now believes "Nicola has not gone in that river" after
speaking with the diving experts.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/21333313/nicola-bulley-diving-expert-video-proof-no-river-fall/

[Cherie]

I hope they haven't spent two weeks troupsing up and down the river if she has been abducted, this could turn into another Suzy Lamplugh

[MTVN]

Is the yellow coat woman ever going to come forward? .

She did come forward shortly after the police said they wanted to speak to her I believe

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nicola Bulley can’t have ‘vanished’ – this is what the police should do now

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article29102025.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200d/0_Nicola-Bulley-Interview-with-lead-volunteer-searcher-at-4pm.jpg

It is now 14 days since mum of two, Nicola Bulley was last seen – leaving her family, friends and the police baffled by her disappearance. Let’s be clear: people don’t just vanish, there is always an explanation.

So, what could have happened to her?

To my mind, there are three options. The first is what police have believed from day one: that Nicola fell into the River Wyre. However, even though they have made this their main focus, this is looking more and more unlikely. They have flooded the search of the river with massive resources, including private divers, which will have detracted from other areas being searched. Yet they still have no evidence to support their hypothesis that she has fallen into the river.

The other two options are therefore, in my opinion, becoming increasingly more likely: that she left of her own free will, or a third-party was involved.

The police have identified a window of opportunity of about 10 minutes, when they have no sighting or information about Nicola’s whereabouts. This is ample time – either for her to get herself some distance from the river bank and the phone, or for someone else to have been involved. I know the police have stated clearly that they have no evidence of third-party involvement or criminal behaviour, but neither do they have any evidence that she fell into the river. So, all three options must remain on the table until they are eliminated.

To date, the assumption has been that if Nicola left by what whatever means, it would have been by a path – but how can we be so certain about that? Had she left via a field or non-official path, she would not have been seen on CCTV.

A lot has been made of her mobile phone on the bench as being the location she entered the water, but evidence from the police who have thoroughly searched the area downstream to the weir tells us that this is almost certainly not the case. With the flow of the River Wyre at the time only being very slightly higher and faster, it is still not enough to drag a fully clothed, fit and healthy person far downstream. If she did lose consciousness straight away, because of the water temperature she would have sunk to the bottom.

The police have come under a lot of criticism – some founded, some very unfair. Nobody can doubt their desire to find Nicola, but what has been lacking is a clear, appropriate and effective media strategy. For example, on day one conflicting information was released about where the dog was found. They also said they were certain Nicola did not leave the area, only to follow it up a few days later saying it’s possible – because a path was not covered by CCTV.

But my biggest concern is the police concluding – within days of Nicola’s disappearance – that they had formed a working hypothesis that Nicola fell into the water and drowned. My major problem with having a hypothesis so early is it has the danger of looking for evidence to fit that theory, rather than everyone remaining open-minded.

With my experience as a former detective, I think this is what the police investigation should focus on now:

1) Conclude the water search as soon as possible – once all areas are eliminated;

2) Focus on a wider search of the fields and wooded area on land;

3) Fitbit data on average updates every 15 minutes via Bluetooth to Nicola’s phone – when did that last happen? This will help give an indication of when the watch went out of range, and if the watch was still on her wrist this could significantly helping with the time line and radius of search;

4) Reconstruction and road checks – people are creatures of habit. Most of us take the same route at the same time, on the same day, every week. This may well identify new witnesses, who have not yet come forward.

Having dealt with many families who are in the same place as Nicola’s family now tragically find themselves in, I know they hold on to every possible piece of hope. They will be watching the news and reading articles. It will be a relief for them I am sure that the brilliant forensics expert Peter Faulding did not find her, but I can tell you from experience it’s the not knowing that eats away, far more. That is why they need answers, not hypotheses.

Mark Williams-Thomas is an investigative reporter. He is also the presenter of ITV and Netflix series The Investigator

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/nicola-bulley-missing-update-latest-b2279185.html

[Gusto Brunt]

It's very rare I ever get any abuse on social media. In fact it might have been about three times in ten years.

But since I've been contributing to the case of missing Nicola, I've had a lot of abuse on YouTube just for saying I think she was abducted. Not killed but taken by someone.

I've had some really nasty comments from people who will not accept any other version of events other than she has drowned and is in the river.

We're all entitled to an opinion but I think I will stop posting comments on YouTube regarding the matter. :)

[Crimson Dynamo]

it's very rare i ever get any abuse on social media. In fact it might have been about three times in ten years.

But since i've been contributing to the case of missing nicola, i've had a lot of abuse on youtube just for saying i think she was abducted. Not killed but taken by someone.

I've had some really nasty comments from people who will not accept any other version of events other than she has drowned and is in the river.

We're all entitled to an opinion but i think i will stop posting comments on youtube regarding the matter. :)

dont be intimidated gusto

[Cherie]

Why have they not released the fitbit data, if she died on the day then surely they can say this?

[arista]

Why have they not released the fitbit data, if she died on the day then surely they can say this?


For some reason, Police Refuse

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/14C9C/production/_128584158_sun-nc.png.webp

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/02/10/01/67532079-0-image-a-32_1675992841428.jpg

[Lancashire Police is working under
the hypothesis that she slipped into the water
But it has admitted possibility she left the area
by one path not covered by CCTV]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11732703/The-CCTV-blindspots-surrounding-area-Nicola-Bulley.html

[arista]

Is the yellow coat woman ever going to come forward? .


I think, Police have spoken
to that lady.

[arista]

There's more stuff that I wouldn't like, it's pretty toxic.


But the Point is with Twitter
is you direct who you follow


Which means your Stream
will be what you have directed

Easy and Fast to UnFollow, as well


You would be Great on Twitter

[arista]

A van now !??

I guess the abandoned house was a dead end then , anyone else suspicious of the CCTV being broken :suspect: .


There are loads of Empty Houses.


And that Red Tatty Van
was mentioned on the Live Report
on GMBHD itv
this morning.

[bots]

But the Point is with Twitter
is you direct who you follow


Which means your Stream
will be what you have directed

Easy and Fast to UnFollow, as well


You would be Great on Twitter

but it's **** and I don't want to follow anyone

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://twitter.com/FindFalconio/status/1624016504512561154?s=20&t=u_WK9xqZTBrtqWgTH7145g

[Alf]

Professor Plum
In the study
With the candlestick

[arista]

but it's **** and I don't want to follow anyone


You are not using it right

[bots]

You are not using it right

i'm not using it at all, which is just perfect

[arista]

i'm not using it at all, which is just perfect


OK

[arista]

Yes LT
today at least we viewed the ally to that busy road
showing someone could take her.

All AM TV news & Radio were there.

Viewing that busy road at the time, she vanished
I wonder if an Evil Man with a weapon
took her to a Van or Car?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yes LT
today at least we viewed the ally to that busy road
showing someone could take her.

All AM TV news & Radio were there.

Viewing that busy road at the time, she vanished
I wonder if an Evil Man with a weapon
took her to a Van or Car?

He could have hit her with a claw hammer on the back of the head and then put her over his shoulder and had her away up that path to load in his van. Quick as a flash

[Crimson Dynamo]

w0sg05Kt8Rw

[Crimson Dynamo]

'Nikki would never give up on us ever. Something happened that day': Nicola
Bulley's partner says his family are going through 'unprecedented hell' and he
feels 'like he is in the Truman show' - but insists they will find missing mother


Paul Ansell said he is '100 per cent' Ms Bulley did not fall into the River Wyre
The mother-of-two went missing while walking her dog on January 27

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/02/10/16/67553437-11736761-Nicola_Bulley_s_partner_today_declared_something_h appened_that_d-m-102_1676045464770.jpg
Nicola Bulley's partner today declared 'something happened that day' as the
search for the missing mother hits the two-week mark. He is pictured, right,
with 5 News's Dan Walker, left. The full interview will appear on ‘Vanished:
What’s happened to Nicola Bulley’ at 9pm on Channel 5

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11736761/Nicola-Bulleys-partner-says-people-dont-just-vanish-air.html

[Crimson Dynamo]

decent prog by c5 tonight

:clap2:

[Beso]

Hopefully shes alive and well in Panama. I hate the thought of peope suffering whilst dying.

Not really followed this case much, but she cant be in the river if her phone was on the bench. It would be in her pocket.

It cant be suicide by drowning cause the waters about 3ft deep, if my info is correct!

Do they have a police station or a refugee centre nearby?

[Beso]

ovI9amAA6qs

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-23e28a95-a94b-4e15-aa0a-3cc829fc58ad.jpeg

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-6598cbb4-4e84-4a22-8f49-0080ce6102cb.jpeg

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-1427f6d7-2342-476b-aa99-7ff763413096.jpeg

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://twitter.com/WilliamBAADLDN/status/1624417250089336832?s=20&t=gu76UJeXEOSMvaVgd10dAA

[bots]

you are really going down the conspiracy tunnel there LT

[Oliver_W]

you are really going down the conspiracy tunnel there LT

He sure is.

btw, let me tell you about the boats she might have gotten on :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

you are really going down the conspiracy tunnel there LT

i did not tweet that :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

9BAi_ffPysY

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-23e28a95-a94b-4e15-aa0a-3cc829fc58ad.jpeg


Yes, but the Police are not with you

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-e24a4306-dccf-4033-9071-613c2432635b.jpeg

Above is Saturday's Paper

Yes the Police
need to tell us the Truth

[Cherie]

No news about the fitbit....why not

[Oliver_W]

No news about the fitbit....why not

Is there definitely news to tell? For all we know she could have had step count on but location off, or something like that?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Is there definitely news to tell? For all we know she could have had step count on but location off, or something like that?
even so that would tell if she "fell" into the river or walked on

[Cherie]

Is there definitely news to tell? For all we know she could have had step count on but location off, or something like that?

Unless it was turned off completely it would show she was alive after the phone was found as far as I know anyway

[Crimson Dynamo]

Unless it was turned off completely it would show she was alive after the phone was found as far as I know anyway

it would be fairly easy to get a similar-sized woman to wear one and retrace her walk and then calculate distance if the location data was off..

[arista]

Unless it was turned off completely it would show she was alive after the phone was found as far as I know anyway


Police have Refused
they must have a reason.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Police have Refused
they must have a reason.

fear of blame most likely

[Zizu]

….

[Cherie]

Breaking news -Courtesy of the Express

Two 'suspicious' men spotted near missing Nicole Bulley's route as police handed new CCTV
The two men were described as acting "suspiciously" close to a church and railway bridge.
By CHARLIE BRADLEY
10:14, Sun, Feb 12, 2023 | UPDATED: 10:40, Sun, Feb 12, 2023


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

I really don’t understand why it has taken so long for this to come to light....surely whoever saw them would have joined the dots while it was fresh in their memory not two week later after daily bullitens and two weeks of searching ...that poor family

[arista]

Police will have to check them

[Crimson Dynamo]

And still the police has not said a warning to any women in the area?

[arista]

And still the police has not said a warning to any women in the area?


Because they claim
she went in the river....

[arista]

[Retired detective says police are right
to pursue theory that the missing
mother fell into the water as search enters 17th day]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11741683/Retired-detective-says-police-right-pursue-theory-missing-mother-fell-water.html

[Crimson Dynamo]

[Retired detective says police are right
to pursue theory that the missing
mother fell into the water as search enters 17th day]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11741683/Retired-detective-says-police-right-pursue-theory-missing-mother-fell-water.html

"Ms Mackay had previously said that her experience of working along the Somerset coast showed people aren't always immediately found if it involves water.

She added that Ms Bulley's winter clothes could have weighed her down and that cold water shock would have disorientated her.

'That cold water shock very quickly disorientates you and with winter clothes it's heavy and panic will set in.

'And once you start losing control it can be quite difficult to regain it.'

The retired police officer said she didn't believe that there was criminal involvement as most attacks on women are spontaneous. "


We have already established

1. the edge of the river for that whole stretch is 2 foot deep

2. Clothes would insulate her from any cold water shock and they do not weigh you down

that lady is talking a special kind of bollocks

[Alf]

[Retired detective says police are right
to pursue theory that the missing
mother fell into the water as search enters 17th day]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11741683/Retired-detective-says-police-right-pursue-theory-missing-mother-fell-water.htmlWorm hole.

[arista]

Worm hole.


Yes could be

[Crimson Dynamo]

FxZKEGj3s4g

[arista]

[Nicola Bulley's friends hit back
at latest armchair detectives'
claim that she left her Mercedes car keys
in the ignition before she vanished - as police
are seen at nearby caravan park
Nicola Bulley, 45, vanished on January 27
as she walked along River Eyre in Lancs
It has now emerged she still had her keys
with her as police were seen nearby]


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/02/13/13/67631251-11745045-image-a-99_1676294454584.jpg
[Police outside Wyreside Farm Park Caravan
site which is near to
where Ms Bulley vanished]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11745045/Nicola-Bulleys-friends-claim-missing-mother-vanished-carrying-Mercedes-car-keys.html

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://twitter.com/Positively4thS/status/1624900047753080833?s=20&t=1MUBYAiJ1q2M_Mo1Yq19kg

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/02/13/16/67637539-0-image-m-17_1676305275025.jpg

[rusticgal]

So the Camera on the Caravan sight that could have seen everything turns out to be broken…this was reported last week. Why has it taken them so long to search the site :shrug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

So the Camera on the Caravan sight that could have seen everything turns out to be broken…this was reported last week. Why has it taken them so long to search the site :shrug:

Rusti, they had to search all of the Irish Sea first !

come on give them a break

they have it all covered...

https://fi.somethingawful.com/images/smilies/tif.gif

[Cherie]

So the Camera on the Caravan sight that could have seen everything turns out to be broken…this was reported last week. Why has it taken them so long to search the site :shrug:

This is the second search apparently

[Crimson Dynamo]

This is the second search apparently

now they have finally accepted she did not fall in the river

[Cherie]

now they have finally accepted she did not fall in the river

It is unlikely she will be found alive now if she was abducted sadly

[Crimson Dynamo]

ef-jsBxMbYA

[Mystic Mock]

Is there any updates on the case?

[GoldHeart]

It is unlikely she will be found alive now if she was abducted sadly

Sadly i think she's dead aswell , it's like 2 weeks since she went missing now.

[Crimson Dynamo]

In an interview with The Telegraph, Diving expert Peter Faulding spoke about
the struggling search for Nicola, who disappeared along the River Wyre on January 27.

"Faulding said: "On the river on the day it wasn’t running very fast. I’ve spent a
lot of time with the family and they said she was so cautious, did the same
route every day, didn’t go near the river and her Fitbit shows she doesn’t go
near the river. She would have to be pushed really hard to be launched out into
the middle of the river."

:umm2:

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/nicola-bulley-latest-diver-says-26231573

[Cherie]

In an interview with The Telegraph, Diving expert Peter Faulding spoke about
the struggling search for Nicola, who disappeared along the River Wyre on January 27.

"Faulding said: "On the river on the day it wasn’t running very fast. I’ve spent a
lot of time with the family and they said she was so cautious, did the same
route every day, didn’t go near the river and her Fitbit shows she doesn’t go
near the river. She would have to be pushed really hard to be launched out into
the middle of the river."

:umm2:

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/nicola-bulley-latest-diver-says-26231573

Its sounds like the police have really made an almighty mess of this investigation ...they were too focussed on one outcome....similar in a way with how they treated the boys who were killed by Stephen Port they refused to believe there was a killer on the loose

[GoldHeart]

Its sounds like the police have really made an almighty mess of this investigation ...they were too focussed on one outcome....similar in a way with how they treated the boys who were killed by Stephen Port they refused to believe there was a killer on the loose

It seems they were convinced or wanted everyone to believe Nicola fell in the river...and that it was an accident ,but I don't think police know now .And If she was abducted...why is there no evidence,where is the body ? . Will she ever be found...and will her family and friends ever get closure. And why is there no mention of them contacting the people on the conference call ,did they hear anything suspicious? .

[arista]

The Police must do a News Conference
to tell us about the Fit Bit Data


LT
something stinks here

[Crimson Dynamo]

The Police must do a News Conference
to tell us about the Fit Bit Data


LT
something stinks here

Yes it stinks, the Dive expert let it slip that the fitbit data did not put Nicola in the river when it should have been the police

[bots]

it's certainly doing nothing for public confidence in the police. I go back to my original theory, maybe it was a policeman that abducted her

[Livia]

It all sounds like the plot from the next Line of Duty.

[Oliver_W]

it's certainly doing nothing for public confidence in the police. I go back to my original theory, maybe it was a policeman that abducted her

As much as I like my own theory, yours is disturbingly likely :(

[Crimson Dynamo]

2S5haUTWlWQ

[Crimson Dynamo]

Distraught partner of missing Nicola Bulley 'is frustrated with police over their
stalling investigation and has been rebuffed by senior officers' - as force only
now tries to find anglers fishing on the River Wyre when she vanished 2½
weeks ago



Paul Ansell has urged police to widen their search for his parnter Nicola Bulley
Fishermen claim police only contacted them this week about anglers on the river
It raises more questions over whether steps were missed in the vital first days


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/02/14/18/67682221-11750537-image-m-18_1676400824593.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/02/14/18/67682221-11750537-image-m-18_1676400824593.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11750537/Detectives-approach-anglers-fishing-river-Nicola-Bulley-vanished.html

[arista]

Yes Police
have Failed

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-5d2f2e82-9487-4a52-b25a-de7bb6fbcf6f.jpeg

[arista]

Glove Found in a field

So not in the river

[Cherie]

Dear me if this is true, the keystone cops are in the house, that poor family dealing with such incompetence....

[bots]

i'm telling you, the police were involved in her abduction and they are trying to cover it up. Everything they have done so far has hampered the investigation, it's disgusting

[Crimson Dynamo]

f me the whole investigation is keystone kops

[Zizu]

….

[arista]

Police News Conference at 11:30AM Today

[Cherie]

I understand the glove was found 7 miles away, the media are reporting it as if it were found by the bench and PC Plod have been stepping on it for two weeks

[Cherie]

Police News Conference at 11:30AM Today

About time I hope the journos question about the fitbit if it is not mentioned

[arista]

Yes the Press must Push the Police
on so much.

[arista]

Good on SkyNewsHD

Split screen

Ready for Live in Hutton,

[arista]

Live Now


Peter Lawson Assist Police Chief

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/02/15/nicola-bulley-latest-updates-police-press-conference-missing/

[Crimson Dynamo]

12:20PM
Witness who found dog's harness phoned vet for help
Smith describes how, at around 09:33 GMT, a local dogwalker found Willow off her lead and Bulley's mobile phone on a bench nearby.

12:20PM
Fisherman who 'covered his face' has not come forward
A fisherman who was reportedly seen covering his face is also being traced, Detective Superintendent Smith added.

12:18PM
Police 'inundated' with false information and theories but continuing to investigate "red van"
Detective Superintendent Smith said they were continuing to track down a red van seen in the area but said she did not believe it was suspicious.

12:16PM
Derelict house has been searched three times and Nicola is not in there
Detective Superintendent Smith addressed a number of "myths" circulating online and said a derelict house opposite the site of her disappearance had been searched multiple times.

12:15PM
Investigation looking into Nicola's social media profile in coming days
Police warned public not to contact them if they saw Ms Bulley was 'online' as it would just be officers investigating her accounts.

12:12PM
'Exhaustive amount of work done' with Nicola's phone
Detective Superintendent Smith said officers had been examining Ms Bulley's phone in depth ever since it was recovered.

12:10PM
'River path has always been focus of search of routes leading away from site of disappearance'
Detective Superintendent Smith said that if Nicola had left and turned right off the path when she left she did not make it to a pub around 50 yards away.

12:06PM
Horses, dogs and helicopters involved in search
HM Coastguard, Police Marine Units, Police Dogs, West Cumbria Search and Rescue and volunteers from Specialist Search Dogs were involved in the search.

Fire and Rescue dogs and Firefighters were on the ground assisting the search efforts, as well as 24 Bowland Pennine Mountain Rescue volunteers.

The National Police Air Service helicopter was deployed to search the area.

12:04PM
'Really normal for dog not to have harness on'
Detective Superintendent Smith said it was not unusual for Bulley's dog, Willow, to have its harness off while in the field.

12:03PM
Call made before disappearance was 'normal'
Detective Superintendent Rebecca Smith said the teams call Nicola was on before she disappeared was a routine one and she "did not need to have her microphone or camera on"

12:00PM
Disappearance of Nicola was graded as 'high risk' immediately, officer in charge claims
Detective Superintendent Rebecca Smith says disappearance of Nicola was graded as "high risk" immediately after police were called at 11am.

You form a number of hypothesis - those included the one she could have gone into river, that there was third party involvement and that she left area voluntarily.

Said it was her "main working hypothesis" that Nicola went into the River Wyre and it remains her belief.

She said there was not a single piece of information to suggest third party involvement.

[Crimson Dynamo]

so could have still been thumped on head, carried on the shoulder up river path into a van and drove off all that bit is cctv black-out

[Oliver_W]

12:15PM
Investigation looking into Nicola's social media profile in coming days
Police warned public not to contact them if they saw Ms Bulley was 'online' as it would just be officers investigating her accounts.

12:12PM
'Exhaustive amount of work done' with Nicola's phone
Detective Superintendent Smith said officers had been examining Ms Bulley's phone in depth ever since it was recovered.
How can exhaustive and in depth work have already been done on her phone, but her social media is yet to be examined? Surely there's only so much you can investigate on a phone without looking at social media?

Curiouser and curiouser.

[bots]

i thought the lead detective had a bit of an attitude problem. That doesn't mean they haven't done a good job, but she isn't ideal for a public facing role

[Crimson Dynamo]

i thought the lead detective had a bit of an attitude problem. That doesn't mean they haven't done a good job, but she isn't ideal for a public facing role

She was dripping with indignation that anyone would dare question her work

[Crimson Dynamo]

The police officer in charge of the investigation into the disappearance of Nicola
Bulley has revealed she was a "high risk" and had "specific vulnerabilities".




Detective Superintendent Smith refused to give more details of the mother-of-
two's "individual vulnerabilities".


"But those vulnerabilities based our decision-making in terms of grading Nicola
as high risk and have continued to form part of my investigation throughout."

DT


:suspect:

[Niamh.]

The police officer in charge of the investigation into the disappearance of Nicola
Bulley has revealed she was a "high risk" and had "specific vulnerabilities".




Detective Superintendent Smith refused to give more details of the mother-of-
two's "individual vulnerabilities".


"But those vulnerabilities based our decision-making in terms of grading Nicola
as high risk and have continued to form part of my investigation throughout."

DT


:suspect:

I wonder what that's about. High risk? of what?

[UserSince2005]

Dont tell me she is pregnant or something.

[Crimson Dynamo]

dont tell me she is pregnant or something.

that could be it

[Niamh.]

Dont tell me she is pregnant or something.

What would that make her "high risk" of though? disappearing?

[Crimson Dynamo]

I wonder what that's about. High risk? of what?

They spent the whole presser berating the gen public for being armchair detectives and for speculating and then say that!

i mean what do they think is going to happen now?

[arista]

so could have still been thumped on head, carried on the shoulder up river path into a van and drove off all that bit is cctv black-out



Very True LT.

[UserSince2005]

What would that make her "high risk" of though? disappearing?

Pregnant at 45 is already high risk. Never mind if you have gone missing.

[bots]

I wonder what that's about. High risk? of what?

it could be anything really. Maybe she was vulnerable to walking off without a trace

[thesheriff443]

She had personal vulnerabilities according to the boyfriend that’s why she was considered high risk.

[arista]

What about the Fitbit?

[bots]

What about the Fitbit?

there was no fitbit data as it handn't connected to her phone for for days before she disappeared

[arista]

there was no fitbit data as it handn't connected to her phone for for days before she disappeared


OK

[Niamh.]

She had personal vulnerabilities according to the boyfriend that’s why she was considered high risk.

Ah OK

[Oliver_W]

She had personal vulnerabilities according to the boyfriend that’s why she was considered high risk.
That's not really an answer, is it. Like, was she neurodivergent in some way? Trauma?

there was no fitbit data as it handn't connected to her phone for for days before she disappeared
Hmmm.

I maintain my crackpot theory that she did a runner, and that's not exactly dissuasive ...

[hijaxers]

That's not really an answer, is it. Like, was she neurodivergent in some way? Trauma?


Hmmm.

I maintain my crackpot theory that she did a runner, and that's not exactly dissuasive ...

That is a crackpot theory, i've never thought that right from when she disappeared, someones abducted her.

[Oliver_W]

That is a crackpot theory, i've never thought that right from when she disappeared, someones abducted her.

:joker:

From the beginning I've thought she left via the river, on her new lover's boat. She left things as they were (the harness, the phone) so people would look at them instead of more relevant stuff.

She wore that huge coat to hide her different clothes.

[Zizu]

:joker:

From the beginning I've thought she left via the river, on her new lover's boat. She left things as they were (the harness, the phone) so people would look at them instead of more relevant stuff.

She wore that huge coat to hide her different clothes.


Mmmmm

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[Oliver_W]

I’d guess someone would have remembered seeing a bladdy boat that morning..

Plus wasn’t it supposed to be about a foot deep anyways so that only leaves a gondola ..


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Regular boating river it is. Do you remember seeing a car on the road?

A dinghy could do it.

[Zizu]

Regular boating river it is. Do you remember seeing a car on the road?

A dinghy could do it.


Mmmmmm


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[Oliver_W]

Still think that with all the people/witnesses around at least one of them would remember a bloke and a woman going down the river in a bladdy dinghy


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Depends how far they went.

[Zizu]

Depends how far they went.


Mmmmm..


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[Crimson Dynamo]

https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1625905582115893249

[Oliver_W]

It so far fetched though , the whole plan resting on not being seen by hoards of walkers , joggers , dawg walkers in broad daylight etc

Even drama series have more realistic scenarios


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Hoards of people? We can count on one hand the amount of people known to have been in the area.

[Zizu]

Hoards of people? We can count on one hand the amount of people known to have been in the area.


They seem to have been looking for and then ticking them off every day of so plus again if or was all planned they wouldn’t know for sure how quiet or busy it was likely to be on that morning ..


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[bots]

i don't think they are going to find her. The chief detective was asked if they would find her alive, and she said she hoped so, but she had just finished saying that the most likely scenario was that she went in the river :crazy:

[Crimson Dynamo]

It's like asking your partner where are the scissors and they say "in the kitchen drawe"r

So you go in kitchen and look in the drawer but it's totally empty

So you tell them this and they say "well I still think the most likely scenario is they are on there and I have no other evidence to suggest they are inany other place in the house"

[Crimson Dynamo]

Now says on DT site

She had significant issues with alcohol

:omgno:

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://twitter.com/TalkTV/status/1625914101833531410

[bots]

A police statement said: "Nicola had in the past suffered with some significant issues with alcohol which were brought on by her ongoing struggles with the menopause and that these struggles had resurfaced over recent months."

[Cherie]

So she has done a runner then? sounds like it to me

[MTVN]

More great communication by the police :skull:

[Oliver_W]

she , but she had just finished saying that the most likely scenario was that she went in the river :crazy:

She did.

In a boat.

With her new man.

[MTVN]

So she has done a runner then? sounds like it to me

Or are they saying this means she's likely to have been pissed, fallen in, and passed out

[Cherie]

Or are they saying this means she's likely to have been pissed, fallen in, and passed out

Oh maybe ....

[Crimson Dynamo]

Or are they saying this means she's likely to have been pissed, fallen in, and passed out

No she drove kids to school so v much doubt she had been drinking

[bots]

Or are they saying this means she's likely to have been pissed, fallen in, and passed out

i thought she had just taken her daughters to school in the morning :skull:

[Cherie]

No she drove kids to school so v much doubt she had been drinking

She could have downed a bottle while walking ....its insane the police didnt tell the diver who gave his services for free she was vulnerable

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://twitter.com/peter_faulding/status/1625920200116736002

[hijaxers]

She could have downed a bottle while walking ....its insane the police didnt tell the diver who gave his services for free she was vulnerable

What she loaded wine in with the kids on school run, i don't think so Cherie .