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arista
09-03-2023, 10:37 PM
https://news.sky.com/story/several-people-reportedly-killed-in-hamburg-shooting-12829920

[Several people have been killed
in a shooting in the northern German
city of Hamburg.
Hamburg Police say shots were fired
in a church in the Gross Borstel district,
with several people seriously injured
and some killed.
German newspaper Bild reports seven people
were killed and at least eight others injured.

The shooting occurred in a building used by
Jehovah's Witnesses, local media report.
Police said the motive for the attack is
currently unclear, as a number of armed
officers were pictured near the scene.]

Strictly Jake
10-03-2023, 04:38 AM
As many on here know I myself am a JW. Those above comments aren't nice. Especially after what has happened. People have many misconceptions about us and I'm not going to get in a debate with people about it as people are rude on here to me whenever I bring it up. What I will say is we are peaceful people who refuse to get involved in violence and war. So this is really distressing that someone would trager us just because we wanted to be at our place of worship. You all may have your misconceptions but before you become cruel just think of the different people we have attend our meetings. Families. Children. Babies. Elderly. And we are human.

Mystic Mock
10-03-2023, 04:53 AM
I'm gonna speculate that this is another Religious group that attacked this JW building?

RIP to the people that were killed during the attack.

Strictly Jake
10-03-2023, 05:38 AM
I'm gonna speculate that this is another Religious group that attacked this JW building?

RIP to the people that were killed during the attack.

I have my own theory. Sometimes people can leave and stop being a JW, and quite often when people do that they go to an extreme of hating us and wanting to attack at every opportunity whether it's online, social media, pamphlets etc. It could be a disgruntled former jw wanting some form of revenge.

Cherie
10-03-2023, 07:13 AM
It really is the lowest of the low attacking a place of worship

arista
10-03-2023, 08:57 AM
I have my own theory. Sometimes people can leave and stop being a JW, and quite often when people do that they go to an extreme of hating us and wanting to attack at every opportunity whether it's online, social media, pamphlets etc. It could be a disgruntled former jw wanting some form of revenge.


Yes

Also, you need to be truthful
it is not easy to leave these money making buggers.

They won't let you leave


BBC Documentaries on just that

arista
10-03-2023, 08:58 AM
It really is the lowest of the low attacking a place of worship

They are not viewed as a proper church

GoldHeart
10-03-2023, 09:01 AM
They are not viewed as a proper church

Maybe not but the attack is still horrific
So
R.I.P to the victims.

arista
10-03-2023, 09:08 AM
Maybe not but the attack is still horrific
So
R.I.P to the victims.


Yes Shooting them dead
Evil.

Kazanne
10-03-2023, 09:16 AM
As many on here know I myself am a JW. Those above comments aren't nice. Especially after what has happened. People have many misconceptions about us and I'm not going to get in a debate with people about it as people are rude on here to me whenever I bring it up. What I will say is we are peaceful people who refuse to get involved in violence and war. So this is really distressing that someone would trager us just because we wanted to be at our place of worship. You all may have your misconceptions but before you become cruel just think of the different people we have attend our meetings. Families. Children. Babies. Elderly. And we are human.

I agree Jake pretty insensitive, we are, all people and this, an awful thing to happen.

Nicky91
10-03-2023, 09:34 AM
awful crime

but i can't say i like the jehova's though, but then again same goes for salvation army, also not a fan of those

too cult-like for me personally

joeysteele
10-03-2023, 10:13 AM
As many on here know I myself am a JW. Those above comments aren't nice. Especially after what has happened. People have many misconceptions about us and I'm not going to get in a debate with people about it as people are rude on here to me whenever I bring it up. What I will say is we are peaceful people who refuse to get involved in violence and war. So this is really distressing that someone would trager us just because we wanted to be at our place of worship. You all may have your misconceptions but before you become cruel just think of the different people we have attend our meetings. Families. Children. Babies. Elderly. And we are human.


I want to thank you for that post and its content.

This is horrific.
Absolutely more senseless killings of innocent people.
Devastating for the families and all others now suffering the loss of loved ones.

Awful news.

Vanessa
10-03-2023, 10:38 AM
Really tragic news.
I have nothing against JW. They've always been nice and polite to me.

arista
10-03-2023, 10:42 AM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/03/10/10/68546099-11843851-image-a-15_1678442845633.jpg
[Armed German police officers storm
the church on Thursday night]

arista
10-03-2023, 10:43 AM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/03/09/23/68532517-11841829-image-a-114_1678404165022.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11843851/Germany-shooting-Former-Jehovahs-Witness-named-Bible-study-massacre-gunman.html

arista
10-03-2023, 11:26 AM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/03/10/09/68546091-11843851-image-m-13_1678442332850.jpg
[Phillip F., 35, (pictured)
a former member of this community,
was allegedly responsible
for the deadly attack that also injured
several other people, some seriously,
according to German tabloid Bild]


[Police say they found a dead person at the scene
who they believe may have been the perpetrator.]


7 dead
One of the killed was a pregnant lady, sadly.


Live SkyNewsHD Germany

bots
10-03-2023, 08:10 PM
I have my own theory. Sometimes people can leave and stop being a JW, and quite often when people do that they go to an extreme of hating us and wanting to attack at every opportunity whether it's online, social media, pamphlets etc. It could be a disgruntled former jw wanting some form of revenge.

You were spot on ...

Officials said the suspect had "ill feelings" towards the religious community, of which he had previously been a member before leaving "on bad terms".

Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2023, 08:11 PM
You were spot on ...

Officials said the suspect had "ill feelings" towards the religious community, of which he had previously been a member before leaving "on bad terms".

i think that was announced before jake posted that

bots
10-03-2023, 08:15 PM
i think that was announced before jake posted that

it's not my fault that i have copper wire on my telephone

Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2023, 08:22 PM
it's not my fault that i have copper wire on my telephone

life in the city

Oliver_W
10-03-2023, 08:47 PM
it's not my fault that i have copper wire on my telephone

The cops are wire-tapping your phones?!

Beso
10-03-2023, 09:28 PM
Jehova can be mean sometimes...

Can you Jake, as a JW tell us all why jehova allowed this to happen?

GoldHeart
10-03-2023, 09:47 PM
You were spot on ...

Officials said the suspect had "ill feelings" towards the religious community, of which he had previously been a member before leaving "on bad terms".

I had a feeling it was this aswell , what a nutter he is thinking it's ok to shoot & kill people.

Kazanne
10-03-2023, 10:38 PM
Jehova can be mean sometimes...

Can you Jake, as a JW tell us all why jehova allowed this to happen?

He gave man free will, so it's man's fault and no one else's,

Beso
10-03-2023, 10:39 PM
He gave man free will, so it's man's fault and no one else's,

Crikey, they've changed there tune over the years.

GoldHeart
10-03-2023, 10:44 PM
He gave man free will, so it's man's fault and no one else's,

I think it's clear this individual wasn't right in the head .

Beso
10-03-2023, 10:49 PM
I think it's clear this individual wasn't right in the head .

Jehova created that man. So jehova gave that man mental illness. Not allowing him his own free will.

He can be cruel sometimes.

GoldHeart
10-03-2023, 10:53 PM
Jehova created that man. So jehova gave that man mental illness.

He can be cruel sometimes.

You can't go around killing people to settle scores . Look at how crazy and cult like Scientology is , members that tried to leave experienced alot of problems with the organisation.

Kazanne
10-03-2023, 10:56 PM
Crikey, they've changed there tune over the years.

I've met a few and they have always been very nice to chat to.

Beso
10-03-2023, 11:35 PM
I've met a few and they have always been very nice to chat to.

I've invited a few in in my younger days, and their opinion was jehova was the man.

I know at least 3 current ones and one ex witness of jehova. All nice people, apart from one who's a bit of a big shot. He once paraded round the pits of the british grand prix ine year following the tv crew. He was in the background of every shot. So much so at the end of the day dan had to mention it.


Lisa broke her leg out in a field then other week walking the dog. Shes the one that left.

Zizu
11-03-2023, 01:08 AM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/03/10/09/68546091-11843851-image-m-13_1678442332850.jpg
[Phillip F., 35, (pictured)
a former member of this community,
was allegedly responsible
for the deadly attack that also injured
several other people, some seriously,
according to German tabloid Bild]


[Police say they found a dead person at the scene
who they believe may have been the perpetrator.]


7 dead
One of the killed was a pregnant lady, sadly.


Live SkyNewsHD Germany



He looks rather like that guy who was sacked alongside Andy Gray


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Mystic Mock
11-03-2023, 03:21 AM
I have my own theory. Sometimes people can leave and stop being a JW, and quite often when people do that they go to an extreme of hating us and wanting to attack at every opportunity whether it's online, social media, pamphlets etc. It could be a disgruntled former jw wanting some form of revenge.

I never knew that was a thing.

Hopefully whoever has done this will be severely punished.