Fiona Bruce stepping back from her role as Refuge Charity

[arista]

Just on SkyNewsHD


https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/uk-news/fiona-bruce-steps-back-charity-26459672

[Liam-]

She should have been let go from it after her pathetic display

[arista]

She should have been let go from it after her pathetic display


Her job is to point out the Facts.
That is what she did with Brute Stanley Johnson.

So viewers were updated

[user104658]

Her job is to point out the Facts.
That is what she did with Brute Stanley Johnson.

So viewers were updated

I understand her obligation to explain the "unencumbered" facts legally, but there was more info given than needed. Maybe someone was in here ear - I don't know - but consider this part;

Ms Bruce then said: “I’m not disputing what you’re saying, but just so everyone knows what this is referring to, Stanley Johnson’s wife spoke to a journalist, Tom Bower, and she said that Stanley Johnson had broken her nose and that she’d ended up in hospital as a result.

“Stanley Johnson has not commented publicly on that.

All of that part is fine to be said for context, and would have been ample, there's no need to say more than that. But there was one more part:

"Friends of his have said it did happen, but it was a one-off."

THIS is the part that's unecessary and minimising. It doesn't matter - at all - if it was "a one off" or not. It's a terrible thing to say about a domestic violence issue. Again I dunno if it came from her own thinking or someone in her ear and her just parrotting without thinking.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I understand her obligation to explain the "unencumbered" facts legally, but there was more info given than needed. Maybe someone was in here ear - I don't know - but consider this part;

Ms Bruce then said: “I’m not disputing what you’re saying, but just so everyone knows what this is referring to, Stanley Johnson’s wife spoke to a journalist, Tom Bower, and she said that Stanley Johnson had broken her nose and that she’d ended up in hospital as a result.

“Stanley Johnson has not commented publicly on that.

All of that part is fine to be said for context, and would have been ample, there's no need to say more than that. But there was one more part:

"Friends of his have said it did happen, but it was a one-off."

THIS is the part that's unecessary and minimising. It doesn't matter - at all - if it was "a one off" or not. It's a terrible thing to say about a domestic violence issue. Again I dunno if it came from her own thinking or someone in her ear and her just parrotting without thinking.

but he could have broken her nose by accident?

Or do we actually know he hit her specifically with intent?

[user104658]

but he could have broken her nose by accident?

Or do we actually know he hit her specifically with intent?

I have a teapot for sale if you're interested LT, £100.

https://videos.metro.co.uk/pix/met/2016/03/11/14/3218D94900000578-0-image-a-5_1457706913004.jpg

It's an antique.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I have a teapot for sale if you're interested LT, £100.

https://videos.metro.co.uk/pix/met/2016/03/11/14/3218D94900000578-0-image-a-5_1457706913004.jpg

It's an antique.

Its actually a very important point to establish if you are going to go on tv and call someone a wife-beater

[arista]

but he could have broken her nose by accident?

Or do we actually know he hit her specifically with intent?



It was not
she went to hospital

[Crimson Dynamo]

it was not
she went to hospital

you go to hospital in both scenarios tho

[Crimson Dynamo]

I have read on wiki that it was an allegation made by his ex wife as told to someone else who then made this public so I guess Mt Johnson could deny this happened?

[user104658]

Its actually a very important point to establish if you are going to go on tv and call someone a wife-beater

He can go after the person who said it for defamation if he wants to - or his ex wife if he's so inclined for saying it to a journalist in the first place. Again all Bruce had to do was clarify the facts (that his ex wife apparently alleged it in a conversation with a journalist, and that he has declined to comment on it publicly). If he had ever flat out denied it she would have had to say "he has denied it". But he hasn't.

"Pals say it's true" is extra information that isn't needed, and "they say it was a one off" is information that isn't needed AND is irrelevant. "Err I am not a murderer, I only killed one person!!" is clearly not how it works - if he smacked her in the face once, he is a wife beater.

[user104658]

Its actually a very important point to establish if you are going to go on tv and call someone a wife-beater

He can go after the person who said it for defamation if he wants to - or his ex wife if he's so inclined for saying it to a journalist in the first place. Again all Bruce had to do was clarify the facts (that his ex wife apparently alleged it in a conversation with a journalist, and that he has declined to comment on it publicly). If he had ever flat out denied it she would have had to say "he has denied it". But he hasn't.

"Pals say it's true" is extra information that isn't needed, and "they say it was a one off" is information that isn't needed AND is irrelevant. "Err I am not a murderer, I only killed one person!!" is clearly not how it works - if he smacked her in the face once, he is a wife beater.

[Tom4784]

Honestly, it just goes to show how broken the BBC is that the Gary Linekar situation went the way it did yet Fiona Bruce, the host of question time, can try to waive off domestic violence because it makes the tories look bad.

[The Slim Reaper]

Not sure if it was the same wife, but one of his ex wives has stated he hit her on the regular.

It is not likely to be a one off, and even if it was, I agree with TS on the minimising aspect of it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Not sure if it was the same wife, but one of his ex wives has stated he hit her on the regular.

It is not likely to be a one off, and even if it was, I agree with TS on the minimising aspect of it.

Yes that is the same one that i read in wiki (who knows how reliable that is tbh)

[user104658]

Honestly, it just goes to show how broken the BBC is that the Gary Linekar situation went the way it did yet Fiona Bruce, the host of question time, can try to waive off domestic violence because it makes the tories look bad.

I reckon it's worse than that, I don't think it was Fiona Bruce, I think she had a BBC exec literally in her ear. She repeats "...was required to say..." multiple times in that "apology", definitely came from higher up, probably came from a bloke but she'll take the full flak.

[arista]

Not sure if it was the same wife, but one of his ex wives has stated he hit her on the regular.

It is not likely to be a one off, and even if it was, I agree with TS on the minimising aspect of it.


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/10/03/20/33945296-8802033-Father_Stanley_and_mother_Charlotte_Boris_centre_i s_pictured_wit-a-14_1601753790593.jpg
Father Stanley and mother Charlotte.
Boris, centre, is pictured with his brother
and sisters in the seventies.
Mr Bower describes Stanley’s first marriage,
to Mr Johnson’s mother Charlotte,
as violent and unhappy,
quoting her as saying:
‘He broke my nose. He made me feel like I deserved it’



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8802033/Boriss-dad-broke-mums-nose-Explosive-new-biography-lifts-lid-PMs-affairs.html

[Alf]

January 6 was a con job hoax.

America's government is locking up innocent citizens because they're political opponents.

[Crimson Dynamo]

He can go after the person who said it for defamation if he wants to - or his ex wife if he's so inclined for saying it to a journalist in the first place. Again all Bruce had to do was clarify the facts (that his ex wife apparently alleged it in a conversation with a journalist, and that he has declined to comment on it publicly). If he had ever flat out denied it she would have had to say "he has denied it". But he hasn't.

"Pals say it's true" is extra information that isn't needed, and "they say it was a one off" is information that isn't needed AND is irrelevant. "Err I am not a murderer, I only killed one person!!" is clearly not how it works - if he smacked her in the face once, he is a wife beater.

how would Fiona Bruce have all the facts tho?

[arista]

January 6 was a con job hoax.

America's government is locking up innocent citizens because they're political opponents.


No Alf
they Broke in


Fact.

[arista]

how would Fiona Bruce have all the facts tho?


It is from a Book.


It was in all press


Just posted a Link

[user104658]

how would Fiona Bruce have all the facts tho?

She wouldn't but all she had to say was that he hasn't commented on the allegation - people can draw whatever they want from that. I appreciate that legally the show couldn't say nothing at all - but she needed to say LESS not more, that's impartiality, and isn't that what all of this recent furor is about.

[user104658]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/10/03/20/33945296-8802033-Father_Stanley_and_mother_Charlotte_Boris_centre_i s_pictured_wit-a-14_1601753790593.jpg
Father Stanley and mother Charlotte.
Boris, centre, is pictured with his brother
and sisters in the seventies.
Mr Bower describes Stanley’s first marriage,
to Mr Johnson’s mother Charlotte,
as violent and unhappy,
quoting her as saying:
‘He broke my nose. He made me feel like I deserved it’



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8802033/Boriss-dad-broke-mums-nose-Explosive-new-biography-lifts-lid-PMs-affairs.html

God he looks just like BoJo doesn't he. Those arsehole genes must be unfortunately strong ones.

[The Slim Reaper]

Is this real life :laugh:

[Alf]

No Alf
they Broke in


Fact.You are fake news

Fact

[arista]

God he looks just like BoJo doesn't he. Those arsehole genes must be unfortunately strong ones.


Yes for sure TS

[Crimson Dynamo]

Sadly in the 70s men did hit their wives, it wasnt such a big deal then

[The Slim Reaper]

You are fake news

Fact

Typical of Arista

posting

fake news

[user104658]

Sadly in the 70s men did hit their wives, it wasnt such a big deal then

I'm sure the violent and abusive ones did yes. They still do. The ones who weren't violent and abusive didn't... and they still don't. I don't know the ins and outs of many boomer relationships to be fair - but of those I do know, I know for a fact that none of my grandparents had violent relationships, nor did either of my wife's sets of grandparents. And from what I know of my mum's dad (he died before I was born) he was a WW2 officer and a rather strict/controlling chap - but he still wasn't throwing hands at any of them.

The idea that wife beating was ever "the norm" is just not true. It was common and more openly common. It's still common behind closed doors. None of it is any sort of excuse.

[joeysteele]

I understand her obligation to explain the "unencumbered" facts legally, but there was more info given than needed. Maybe someone was in here ear - I don't know - but consider this part;

Ms Bruce then said: “I’m not disputing what you’re saying, but just so everyone knows what this is referring to, Stanley Johnson’s wife spoke to a journalist, Tom Bower, and she said that Stanley Johnson had broken her nose and that she’d ended up in hospital as a result.

“Stanley Johnson has not commented publicly on that.

All of that part is fine to be said for context, and would have been ample, there's no need to say more than that. But there was one more part:

"Friends of his have said it did happen, but it was a one-off."

THIS is the part that's unecessary and minimising. It doesn't matter - at all - if it was "a one off" or not. It's a terrible thing to say about a domestic violence issue. Again I dunno if it came from her own thinking or someone in her ear and her just parrotting without thinking.


Spot on 100% right.
She was appalling.

Whether he broke her nose by accident is immaterial.
How she came to break her nose by his actions are the real relevant points.

She did set out to minimalise it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

fun fact I once met Fiona Bruce whilst playing golf, she was charming

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/336xn/p06p2w4b.jpg

[user104658]

fun fact I once met Fiona Bruce whilst playing golf, she was charming

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/336xn/p06p2w4b.jpg

"Bopped 'er right on the nose I did, it were normal back in the day."

[joeysteele]

She's absolutely awful as presenter of QT.

Although that programme is now maybe beyond making in any way good again by anyone.

She's always struck me as being false.
Smiling to your face.
Then possibly snarling about you behind your back.

[Crimson Dynamo]

All she did was read a prepared statement from BBC producers

She should not have resigned from the charity

[Zizu]

All she did was read a prepared statement from BBC producers

She should not have resigned from the charity


Crazy times


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[joeysteele]

Up to this moment in time.
I don't see or hear the Charity calling for her to stay or come back.

So possibly they were as stunned by the stance she took too as anyone else would be who abhors any kind of domestic abuse, or, who has suffered because of it.

The problem with Bruce is, she can't set aside her own political leanings.
Which is fine absolutely EXCEPT when you're supposed to be the chair of a political programme across the political spectrum and therefore chairing a heated debate too.

[bots]

these days, it takes just one wrong word and you are a goner, that's the sad reality. Fiona Bruce is in the spotlight because a vocal proportion of viewers don't like her politics, the same with Gary Lineker. This impartiality clause is not going away and it will ultimately lead to the end of a licence fee supported public broadcaster.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fq5S8bmX0AcfOQD?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Crimson Dynamo]

these days, it takes just one wrong word and you are a goner, that's the sad reality. Fiona Bruce is in the spotlight because a vocal proportion of viewers don't like her politics, the same with Gary Lineker. This impartiality clause is not going away and it will ultimately lead to the end of a licence fee supported public broadcaster.

dont know why they cant just run the BBC as an encrypted service and those who want it can pay for it

[Tom4784]

these days, it takes just one wrong word and you are a goner, that's the sad reality. Fiona Bruce is in the spotlight because a vocal proportion of viewers don't like her politics, the same with Gary Lineker. This impartiality clause is not going away and it will ultimately lead to the end of a licence fee supported public broadcaster.

She literally tried to downplay domestic violence while Gary Linekar slammed an internationally illegal proposed law that infringed on human rights. These two things are not the same.

[Crimson Dynamo]

She literally tried to downplay domestic violence while Gary Linekar slammed an internationally illegal proposed law that infringed on human rights. These two things are not the same.

she did not she read out a prepared statement given to her by a BBC producer

[Tom4784]

she did not she read out a prepared statement given to her by a BBC producer

She chose to read it though, she could have left out that last line and if there were consequences for it, she could have played events out in a similar way to Gary Linekar.

People would have been outraged if she was suspended for not reading out a line that underplayed domestic violence and she would have been reinstated with the BBC licking their wounds. I have less sympathy for her for making that choice when she could have done things differently that didn't undermine what she apparently believes in.

[joeysteele]

IF it was a prepared statement by a BBC producer. ' IF' I add.
She really out of loyalty to the charity she claims to be so fond of.
She ought to have clarified she's been TOLD to read this out.

How did she know Yasmin Alibhai Brown was going to make such an issue of the domestic violence claim on Johnson senior.
Why then too close it down to further discussion too.

Claiming it was only a one off incident according to Johnson's Father's friends words.
No need whatsoever to minimise the abuse just because it was a one off.

She WAS the chair.
She IS the authority in that chairing of the programme.
She showed more her own true colours as she usually does.

Because she's frankly hopeless as the chair of Question Time, has been all through.
She cannot hide her political leaning.
Dimbleby had many faults however he was vastly superior to Bruce.