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arista · 13-03-2023, 12:22 PM

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Liam- · 13-03-2023, 12:23 PM

She should have been let go from it after her pathetic display

arista · 13-03-2023, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam-

She should have been let go from it after her pathetic display

Her job is to point out the Facts.
That is what she did with Brute Stanley Johnson.

So viewers were updated

Soldier Boy · 13-03-2023, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

Her job is to point out the Facts.
That is what she did with Brute Stanley Johnson.

So viewers were updated

I understand her obligation to explain the "unencumbered" facts legally, but there was more info given than needed. Maybe someone was in here ear - I don't know - but consider this part;

Ms Bruce then said: “I’m not disputing what you’re saying, but just so everyone knows what this is referring to, Stanley Johnson’s wife spoke to a journalist, Tom Bower, and she said that Stanley Johnson had broken her nose and that she’d ended up in hospital as a result.

“Stanley Johnson has not commented publicly on that.

All of that part is fine to be said for context, and would have been ample, there's no need to say more than that. But there was one more part:

"Friends of his have said it did happen, but it was a one-off."

THIS is the part that's unecessary and minimising. It doesn't matter - at all - if it was "a one off" or not. It's a terrible thing to say about a domestic violence issue. Again I dunno if it came from her own thinking or someone in her ear and her just parrotting without thinking.

LeatherTrumpet · 13-03-2023, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

I understand her obligation to explain the "unencumbered" facts legally, but there was more info given than needed. Maybe someone was in here ear - I don't know - but consider this part;

Ms Bruce then said: “I’m not disputing what you’re saying, but just so everyone knows what this is referring to, Stanley Johnson’s wife spoke to a journalist, Tom Bower, and she said that Stanley Johnson had broken her nose and that she’d ended up in hospital as a result.

“Stanley Johnson has not commented publicly on that.

All of that part is fine to be said for context, and would have been ample, there's no need to say more than that. But there was one more part:

"Friends of his have said it did happen, but it was a one-off."

THIS is the part that's unecessary and minimising. It doesn't matter - at all - if it was "a one off" or not. It's a terrible thing to say about a domestic violence issue. Again I dunno if it came from her own thinking or someone in her ear and her just parrotting without thinking.

but he could have broken her nose by accident?

Or do we actually know he hit her specifically with intent?

Soldier Boy · 13-03-2023, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

but he could have broken her nose by accident?

Or do we actually know he hit her specifically with intent?

I have a teapot for sale if you're interested LT, £100.

It's an antique.

LeatherTrumpet · 13-03-2023, 12:46 PM

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I have a teapot for sale if you're interested LT, £100.

It's an antique.

Its actually a very important point to establish if you are going to go on tv and call someone a wife-beater

arista · 13-03-2023, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

but he could have broken her nose by accident?

Or do we actually know he hit her specifically with intent?

It was not
she went to hospital

LeatherTrumpet · 13-03-2023, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

it was not
she went to hospital

you go to hospital in both scenarios tho

LeatherTrumpet · 13-03-2023, 01:00 PM

I have read on wiki that it was an allegation made by his ex wife as told to someone else who then made this public so I guess Mt Johnson could deny this happened?

Soldier Boy · 13-03-2023, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Its actually a very important point to establish if you are going to go on tv and call someone a wife-beater

He can go after the person who said it for defamation if he wants to - or his ex wife if he's so inclined for saying it to a journalist in the first place. Again all Bruce had to do was clarify the facts (that his ex wife apparently alleged it in a conversation with a journalist, and that he has declined to comment on it publicly). If he had ever flat out denied it she would have had to say "he has denied it". But he hasn't.

"Pals say it's true" is extra information that isn't needed, and "they say it was a one off" is information that isn't needed AND is irrelevant. "Err I am not a murderer, I only killed one person!!" is clearly not how it works - if he smacked her in the face once, he is a wife beater.

Soldier Boy · 13-03-2023, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Its actually a very important point to establish if you are going to go on tv and call someone a wife-beater

He can go after the person who said it for defamation if he wants to - or his ex wife if he's so inclined for saying it to a journalist in the first place. Again all Bruce had to do was clarify the facts (that his ex wife apparently alleged it in a conversation with a journalist, and that he has declined to comment on it publicly). If he had ever flat out denied it she would have had to say "he has denied it". But he hasn't.

"Pals say it's true" is extra information that isn't needed, and "they say it was a one off" is information that isn't needed AND is irrelevant. "Err I am not a murderer, I only killed one person!!" is clearly not how it works - if he smacked her in the face once, he is a wife beater.

Tom4784 · 13-03-2023, 01:15 PM

Honestly, it just goes to show how broken the BBC is that the Gary Linekar situation went the way it did yet Fiona Bruce, the host of question time, can try to waive off domestic violence because it makes the tories look bad.

The Slim Reaper · 13-03-2023, 01:16 PM

Not sure if it was the same wife, but one of his ex wives has stated he hit her on the regular.

It is not likely to be a one off, and even if it was, I agree with TS on the minimising aspect of it.

LeatherTrumpet · 13-03-2023, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Not sure if it was the same wife, but one of his ex wives has stated he hit her on the regular.

It is not likely to be a one off, and even if it was, I agree with TS on the minimising aspect of it.

Yes that is the same one that i read in wiki (who knows how reliable that is tbh)

Soldier Boy · 13-03-2023, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom4784

Honestly, it just goes to show how broken the BBC is that the Gary Linekar situation went the way it did yet Fiona Bruce, the host of question time, can try to waive off domestic violence because it makes the tories look bad.

I reckon it's worse than that, I don't think it was Fiona Bruce, I think she had a BBC exec literally in her ear. She repeats "...was required to say..." multiple times in that "apology", definitely came from higher up, probably came from a bloke but she'll take the full flak.

arista · 13-03-2023, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Not sure if it was the same wife, but one of his ex wives has stated he hit her on the regular.

It is not likely to be a one off, and even if it was, I agree with TS on the minimising aspect of it.

Father Stanley and mother Charlotte.
Boris, centre, is pictured with his brother
and sisters in the seventies.
Mr Bower describes Stanley’s first marriage,
to Mr Johnson’s mother Charlotte,
as violent and unhappy,
quoting her as saying:
‘He broke my nose. He made me feel like I deserved it’

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-affairs.html

Alf · 13-03-2023, 01:20 PM

January 6 was a con job hoax.

America's government is locking up innocent citizens because they're political opponents.

LeatherTrumpet · 13-03-2023, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

He can go after the person who said it for defamation if he wants to - or his ex wife if he's so inclined for saying it to a journalist in the first place. Again all Bruce had to do was clarify the facts (that his ex wife apparently alleged it in a conversation with a journalist, and that he has declined to comment on it publicly). If he had ever flat out denied it she would have had to say "he has denied it". But he hasn't.

"Pals say it's true" is extra information that isn't needed, and "they say it was a one off" is information that isn't needed AND is irrelevant. "Err I am not a murderer, I only killed one person!!" is clearly not how it works - if he smacked her in the face once, he is a wife beater.

how would Fiona Bruce have all the facts tho?

arista · 13-03-2023, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf

January 6 was a con job hoax.

America's government is locking up innocent citizens because they're political opponents.

No Alf
they Broke in

Fact.

arista · 13-03-2023, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

how would Fiona Bruce have all the facts tho?

It is from a Book.

It was in all press

Just posted a Link

Soldier Boy · 13-03-2023, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

how would Fiona Bruce have all the facts tho?

She wouldn't but all she had to say was that he hasn't commented on the allegation - people can draw whatever they want from that. I appreciate that legally the show couldn't say nothing at all - but she needed to say LESS not more, that's impartiality, and isn't that what all of this recent furor is about.

Soldier Boy · 13-03-2023, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

Father Stanley and mother Charlotte.
Boris, centre, is pictured with his brother
and sisters in the seventies.
Mr Bower describes Stanley’s first marriage,
to Mr Johnson’s mother Charlotte,
as violent and unhappy,
quoting her as saying:
‘He broke my nose. He made me feel like I deserved it’

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-affairs.html

God he looks just like BoJo doesn't he. Those arsehole genes must be unfortunately strong ones.