River lady Nicola Bulley Update!

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://twitter.com/TheSun/status/1645739294290505729?s=20

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11960259/Police-divers-return-river-Nicola-Bulleys-body-found.html

[bots]

it was at the request of the coroner, which kind of implies that the police haven't done their job properly again

[UserSince2005]

They need to get the river monster guy on the case

[Crimson Dynamo]

Not sure of The Sun's wording as its the Coroner that tells the police the cause of death?

[arista]

NO Update YET

[arista]

[He added the remainder of the evidence
'will require further evaluation' and
no cause of death was given.
The inquest is due to resume this summer.

LT No Update

[Crimson Dynamo]

[He added the remainder of the evidence
'will require further evaluation' and
no cause of death was given.
The inquest is due to resume this summer.

LT No Update

police divers return to river months after heartbreaking loss to confirm her cause of death

IS A BIG UPDATE AND AGAIN CASTS QUESTIONS ON THIS ALLEGED SUICIDE

[arista]

police divers return to river months after heartbreaking loss to confirm her cause of death

IS A BIG UPDATE AND AGAIN CASTS QUESTIONS ON THIS ALLEGED SUICIDE




Thats So Sad.

[arista]

Her husband must have failed her
in some way.


To waste a great life

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FtbXJ_aXwAM2_mQ?format=jpg&name=medium

[Crimson Dynamo]

What on earth are they expecting to find after the wettest March since the 80s?

[bots]

this case is just very dodgy. The coroner obviously needs some missing evidence to support a cause of death or to fully explain how she ended up in the water

[Mystic Mock]

this case is just very dodgy. The coroner obviously needs some missing evidence to support a cause of death or to fully explain how she ended up in the water

This.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nicola Bulley was 'alive when she entered the water' and died by drowning,
inquest hears: Mother-of-two, 45, 'hadn't been drinking' on day she
disappeared and had not been harmed by a third party, "expert" says

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article29137310.ece/ALTERNATES/n310p/2_Nicola-Bulley-may-have-fallen-in-river-retrieving-dogs-ball-before-heavy-clothes-dragged-her-in-po.jpg

Nicola Bulley was alive when she fell in the River Wyre, had not been drinking
and died by drowning with no sign of foul play or an attack by a third party, her
inquest heard today.

A police underwater search specialist (one of the ones who failed to find her)
said he believes Ms Bulley fell into the River Wyre before floating
downstream. The 'shock' of the cold water would cause her to 'gasp' and
inhale water, PC Matthew Thackray said.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12234203/Nicola-Bulley-alive-entered-water-drowned-inquest-told.html

[arista]

Yes 2 days to come of this in a court.

Her GP will talk tomorrow,

That's someone that can let us know
what she was like
at that time.


Ref:SkyNewsHD

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/06/26/12/72539125-0-image-m-16_1687779400181.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12234203/Nicola-Bulley-alive-entered-water-drowned-inquest-told.html

[Cherie]

terrible, I think its like she threw a ball and it landed in the river and she went to retrieve it and fell in....just tragic

[Niamh.]

terrible, I think its like she threw a ball and it landed in the river and she went to retrieve it and fell in....just tragic

That would make sense, although you'd think her dog would get it, wasn't it a spaniel which is a water retriever?

[Crimson Dynamo]

terrible, I think its like she threw a ball and it landed in the river and she went to retrieve it and fell in....just tragic

i find it rather hard to believe

[Gusto Brunt]

i find it rather hard to believe

This case will always be very suspicious. Shoddy police work and so much evidence destroyed due to police imcompetence.

I expect this inquest will be a sham, just to get things 'over and done with'.

But it will always be an open case in the many eyes of the public.

[arista]

This case will always be very suspicious. Shoddy police work and so much evidence destroyed due to police incompetence.

I expect this inquest will be a sham, just to get things 'over and done with'.

But it will always be an open case in the many eyes of the public.


Yes that has not helped

[Cherie]

i find it rather hard to believe

well at the inquest the area she went in is very steep and is 4 metres deep so I think its plausible, she had just made plans on the phone and was on a work call, its difficult to see how that is compatible with suicide

[Cherie]

That would make sense, although you'd think her dog would get it, wasn't it a spaniel which is a water retriever?

she may have thrown it and the dog couldnt see where it went or something ..its the only thing that makes sense

[Crimson Dynamo]

well at the inquest the area she went in is very steep and is 4 metres deep so I think its plausible, she had just made plans on the phone and was on a work call, its difficult to see how that is compatible with suicide

They do not know where she "fell in"

[Cherie]

They do not know where she "fell in"

cold water shock would have rendered her unconscious in less than 50 secs, she obviously fell in near where her phone was found on the bench :nono:

[thesheriff443]

Maybe it was her time to go.

[arista]

Maybe it was her time to go.


No, I do not think so.

[thesheriff443]

No, I do not think so.

I disagree,
Sometimes things happen that shouldn’t really happen
People fall in water and get themselves out

[Cherie]

I think it was a freak accident, she slipped, the coldness of the water combined with what she was wearing, she had under a minute to get out before she lost consiousness...

[Crimson Dynamo]

cold water shock would have rendered her unconscious in less than 50 secs, she obviously fell in near where her phone was found on the bench :nono:

she did not fall out a boat into a Scottish deepwater loch

she "fell into" a slow-moving shallow stream :nono:

[Cherie]

she did not fall out a boat into a Scottish deepwater loch

she "fell into" a slow-moving shallow stream :nono:

she fell into 4 meters of water and the cold water shock would have made her gasp and she would have lost consciousness in under a minute according to the experts :nono:

[Crimson Dynamo]

she fell into 4 meters of water and the cold water shock would have made her gasp and she would have lost consciousness in under a minute according to the experts :nono:

and in that whole minute she could have stood up and walked out

are these the experts that could not find her till a dog walker said "what is that body doing there in the river?"

[Niamh.]

What do you think happened LT, what do you think they're covering up?

[Crimson Dynamo]

What do you think happened LT, what do you think they're covering up?

I just find it odd

1. They could not find her body for weeks and someone spies it right where they have been searching
2. The whole she fell in bolloxio
3. If it was suicide this is an incredibly odd way to do it
4. why come out with the alcohol and menopause stuff?
5. The whole blaming people for being interested in the case schtick
6 the partner seemed unaware she was suicidal?

among other things

[Niamh.]

I just find it odd

1. They could not find her body for weeks and someone spies it right where they have been searching
2. The whole she fell in bolloxio
3. If it was suicide this is an incredibly odd way to do it
4. why come out with the alcohol and menopause stuff?
5. The whole blaming people for being interested in the case schtick
6 the partner seemed unaware she was suicidal?

among other things

I just can't think of what they would be covering up and for what reason

[thesheriff443]

A man working in a steel plant was recently found with only his waist and legs left after he tripped and fell into molten steel

It’s like walking past a wall or under a tree for years then one day it falls down and kills some one, a couple of seconds either way and the person would have survived

[Crimson Dynamo]

I just can't think of what they would be covering up and for what reason

I just feel that something is way wrong here and they are covering incompetence. Experts, shown to be far from experts, becoming experts again and knowing how it all unfolded - nope

[bots]

i think there was a huge dose of incompetence. That independent diver who loved the sound of his own voice, criticising everything, and at the end of it all was shown to be talking complete bollocks sure didn't help. The police not coming out with information in a timely manner to quash speculation was another. The rest was the media being completely unprofessional

[Cherie]

A witness heard a scream, not a terrified scream but the type of scream that you would hear if someone jumped out at you, I think she slipped, screamed went under and gasped at the cold water shock at which point she was toast...dont forget she was wearing two puffy type jackets which would immediately weigh her down...freak accidents happen all the time

[Crimson Dynamo]

A witness heard a scream, not a terrified scream but the type of scream that you would hear if someone jumped out at you, I think she slipped, screamed went under and gasped at the cold water shock at which point she was toast...dont forget she was wearing two puffy type jackets which would immediately weigh her down...freak accidents happen all the time

MYTH #1: Falling into cold water kills you because your wet clothes pull
you down. Fact: Wet clothes only weigh you down when you're getting out of
the water. This concept that clothes aren't heavy in the water is often difficult
for people to understand unless they have experienced it themselves.

https://www.dvidshub.net/news/360086/cold-water-fatality-myths#:~:text=MYTH%20%231%3A%20Falling%20into%20co ld,they%20have%20experienced%20it%20themselves.

[arista]

Yes Good Points
Cherie,

[AnnieK]

They have said her weight and size means taking one breath in water fills your lung with 1-2 litres of water.......2 litres being the fatal amount so she probably died in two breaths. The shock of the fall, coupled with the cold water temps probably led to her not trying to stand and sadly she drowned.

There is certainly some Police incompetence during the search but sadly it looks like a very tragic accident.

[Crimson Dynamo]

They have said her weight and size means taking one breath in water fills your lung with 1-2 litres of water.......2 litres being the fatal amount so she probably died in two breaths. The shock of the fall, coupled with the cold water temps probably led to her not trying to stand and sadly she drowned.

There is certainly some Police incompetence during the search but sadly it looks like a very tragic accident.

have you even jumped in a swimming pool

even a cold one

to pretend that falling into a river is a life sentence is quite ridiculous

a healthy woman slips down the side of a shallow riverside and drowns is BS

[AnnieK]

have you even jumped in a swimming pool

even a cold one

to pretend that falling into a river is a life sentence is quite ridiculous

a healthy woman slips down the side of a shallow riverside and drowns is BS

I trust in the medical experts who examined her.....did the autopsy and actually reviewed the findings. Why do you think you know more than these people?

You are doing exactly what you mock for people for who question the McCanns and the Police investigation over Madeline's disappearance.

[bots]

she drowned is all we know. It may have been suicide, it may have been an accident. There was no evidence of foul play, there was no note.

The simple truth is she is dead and it really doesn't matter if it was suicide or an accident, she is still dead

[Crimson Dynamo]

I trust in the medical experts who examined her.....did the autopsy and actually reviewed the findings. Why do you think you know more than these people?

You are doing exactly what you mock for people for who question the McCanns and the Police investigation over Madeline's disappearance.

the "medical experts" suggested how she died

or did i miss something?

[Cherie]

have you even jumped in a swimming pool

even a cold one

to pretend that falling into a river is a life sentence is quite ridiculous

a healthy woman slips down the side of a shallow riverside and drowns is BS

jumping into a swimming pool and falling into a moving freezing river in January are two completely different things, you know you are going to jump so you are prepared to hold your breath, you lose you footing on the side of a river and fall in are two different scenarios

[thesheriff443]

she drowned is all we know. It may have been suicide, it may have been an accident. There was no evidence of foul play, there was no note.

The simple truth is she is dead and it really doesn't matter if it was suicide or an accident, she is still dead

Yes she is dead and yes there was water in her lungs meaning she was alive when she entered the water

But because of everything that was done and not done everything that was said and not said the time between disappearing and being found there will always be more questions than answers

[AnnieK]

the "medical experts" suggested how she died

or did i miss something?

Grow up

She has drowned, the woman died. Your armchair forensics impress no-one.

[AnnieK]

Yes she is dead and yes there was water in her lungs meaning she was alive when she entered the water

But because of everything that was done and not done everything that was said and not said the time between disappearing and being found there will always be more questions than answers

And as no-one else witnessed it....we will probably never know

[Crimson Dynamo]

Grow up

She has drowned, the woman died. Your armchair forensics impress no-one.

Neither do your desperate attempts to comply with authority

[AnnieK]

Neither do your desperate attempts to comply with authority

Maybe you shoukd take note of that next time someone questions the McCann investigation because of some weird obsession with Kate mccann.....just saying

[thesheriff443]

And as no-one else witnessed it....we will probably never know

We don’t actually know if any one did witness it or even push her

So yea we may never know.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Maybe you shoukd take note of that next time someone questions the McCann investigation because of some weird obsession with Kate mccann.....just saying

Please don't use the abduction of a child by a madman to bolster your poorly based hypothesis

[Crimson Dynamo]

They just said on the news " anyone who would have gone into the river would have gone unconscious almost immediately" exact words. This is utter lies...WHY??

[AnnieK]

Please don't use the abduction of a child by a madman to bolster your poorly based hypothesis

My hypothesis????? No, the.hypothesis of very educated people who have examined the deceased and have concluded their findings. Not the armchair forensics of someone who picks and chooses when the believe police findings

[Crimson Dynamo]

My hypothesis????? No, the.hypothesis of very educated people who have examined the deceased and have concluded their findings. Not the armchair forensics of someone who picks and chooses when the believe police findings

Your reliance on authority is chilling

[AnnieK]

Your reliance on authority is chilling

You're so funny

I must have missed the post where you said you had examined her body and found some other explanation to her death other than the drowning which has been discovered. No blunt force trauma, no defense wounds. What did YOU find mr forensic pathologist?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Maybe it was her time to go.

It seems the forum wants it so

[rusticgal]

A witness heard a scream, not a terrified scream but the type of scream that you would hear if someone jumped out at you, I think she slipped, screamed went under and gasped at the cold water shock at which point she was toast...dont forget she was wearing two puffy type jackets which would immediately weigh her down...freak accidents happen all the time

I think this is very much the case…

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-0fd4fa8a-d83c-49d6-b979-c40a187ddb8b.png

[Crimson Dynamo]

Shocking

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-56e88a92-b28c-468e-821c-001170ea4a77.jpeg

[thesheriff443]

Just reading bits from the inquest
She was wearing her fit bit watch, remember at the time they said she wasn’t

One says she would have died from her taking two breaths of water
But a police diver says she would of been floating and being pushed along

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/06/27/01/72563979-0-image-m-7_1687826730623.jpg


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12236063/Nicola-Bulleys-final-hours-laid-bare.html

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/06/27/11/72577105-0-image-m-9_1687861897839.jpg

[Gusto Brunt]

Inquest says he fell in and drowned. :rolleyes:

As if they know for sure.

She drowned but no proof she fell in and wasn't pushed.

Hopeless police and 'let's get it over and done with' inquest. Just guess work.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Inquest says he fell in and drowned. :rolleyes:

As if they know for sure.

She drowned but no proof she fell in and wasn't pushed.

Hopeless police and 'let's get it over and done with' inquest. Just guess work.

this 100%

[arista]

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[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-64b1e9d8-a754-46e0-8a0a-f8efb2927c1b.png

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-34f213a2-b873-4d99-8768-64bf5e401aeb.jpeg