Southampton Starbucks : Manager Not Taking Cash :Woman, 55, accused of transphobia

[arista]

Starbucks are refusing Cash.

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[Woman, 55, accused of transphobia
by raging trans Starbucks manager tells
how row exploded when
she said 'I'm talking to the lady behind the counter'
not knowing the worker didn't identify
as a woman: Friend says she's fled
on holiday 'to recover'
Vanessa Thomas was accused of being
'transphobic' by trans Starbucks worker]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12064209/Woman-accused-transphobic-Starbucks-worker-insists-shed-used-word-lady.html

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/05/08/19/70737135-12060053-image-m-52_1683569163217.jpg


[The woman accused by a
transgender Starbucks worker of being
'transphobic' says the whole row stemmed
from her using the word 'lady' to describe
a member of staff without realising
that they did not 'identify as a woman'.

Vanessa Thomas, 55, was seen on
camera being screamed at by the
trans store manager near the
ferry terminal of Southampton, Hampshire.

Mrs Thomas revealed to family and friends
that she had tried to pay for her coffee
using cash but was informed by a
Starbucks worker that this
would not be possible.]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12064209/Woman-accused-transphobic-Starbucks-worker-insists-shed-used-word-lady.html

[Kate!]

I feel sorry for Vanessa Thomas. How on earth was she supposed to know? Pfffft. Getting beyond ridiculous now.

[Mystic Mock]

Did she know tbf?

If she did then she was being an asshole.

[Kate!]

Did she know tbf?

If she did then she was being an asshole.

How could she have known? Are we supposed to be psychic now. That's a bit unfair Mock love.

[Mystic Mock]

How could she have known? Are we supposed to be psychic now. That's a bit unfair Mock love.

Well it depends on if Vanessa Thomas and the worker have interacted more personally with each other in the past.

I personally don't think that is very likely, but it can't be ruled out.

[bots]

|it's not against the law to mis gender someone. How could it be given it's almost impossible to tell on occasion

[Crimson Dynamo]

single sex spaces....

[UserSince2005]

You can’t even tell she’s trans, she looks better than most women on the street

[arista]

I feel sorry for Vanessa Thomas. How on earth was she supposed to know? Pfffft. Getting beyond ridiculous now.

Yes it can happen

[Crimson Dynamo]

ovZJGTS4qfs

[arista]

Thanks LT
Good Guest, Kellie-Jay Keen
breaking down the mess.

[Livia]

Starbucks sucks.

[user104658]

Starbucks sucks.

Obviously, a real well-made coffee is better but Starbucks is still the best "high street coffee" after Nero, and there isn't always a nearby Nero ... so for that I think Starbucks needs to be appreciated and protected. I'm not a huge fan of their performative progressiveness at times but I have to put that to one side because otherwise, we might be stuck with Costa, and that's just really unthinkable.

[Oliver_W]

ovZJGTS4qfs
Posie raised a good point in that a disturbing amount of adults act like their feelings should be front-and-centre, and have an incredibly entitled attitude.

In what world is it okay to act like that at all, let alone when you're working in a public facing role?

You can’t even tell she’s trans, she looks better than most women on the street
You might be thinking of the actual woman? She doesn't identify as a woman, she uses they/them pronouns I think.

[user104658]

Posie raised a good point in that a disturbing amount of adults act like their feelings should be front-and-centre, and have an incredibly entitled attitude.

Widespread entitlement, self-centredness and hyperindividualism are (ironically, given that these people are so often described as leftists) the inevitable outcomes of late-stage capitalism and consumerism. These mindsets didn't spring up out of thin air they were cultivated over decades ... just with some unexpected and unintended side effects.

[Oliver_W]

Widespread entitlement, self-centredness and hyperindividualism are (ironically, given that these people are so often described as leftists) the inevitable outcomes of late-stage capitalism and consumerism. These mindsets didn't spring up out of thin air they were cultivated over decades ... just with some unexpected and unintended side effects.

Can't disagree there.

The way you phrased it isn't something about which I know a great deal. I can't really call my self "anti-capitalist", though I'm certainly against mass consumerism.

As you say, it is somewhat ironic that the behavior of self-proclaimed "leftists" are possibly the outcome of a free market, and that they seem incredibly pro-consumerism. The way some of them defend the latest mass-produced product excreted by Disney...

[user104658]

Can't disagree there.

The way you phrased it isn't something about which I know a great deal. I can't really call my self "anti-capitalist", though I'm certainly against mass consumerism.

As you say, it is somewhat ironic that the behavior of self-proclaimed "leftists" are possibly the outcome of a free market, and that they seem incredibly pro-consumerism. The way some of them defend the latest mass-produced product excreted by Disney...

The late 80's, all of the 90's and at least the first half of the 2010's was all about companies, politics, all sorts of people with vested financial interests pushing a narrative to kids and young people of;

"I am the best, I am the most important, I can be whatever I want, I can have whatever I want, I can have it all, the world is mine for the taking!"

And (cynically) that's because it was thought that those people would then be driven to productivity AND excessive spending within the consumer economy.

What they didn't expect but I think was somewhat inevitable, is that the NEXT generation (the ones who were BORN into that narrative) would have it so firmly embedded in their sense of self that they place importance on self/the individual in really extreme and often bizarre ways... and when you boil it right down... it was sparked by a late-stage capitalist idea that "self centred people will want to buy themselves more stuff".

[Oliver_W]

The late 80's, all of the 90's and at least the first half of the 2010's was all about companies, politics, all sorts of people with vested financial interests pushing a narrative to kids and young people of;

"I am the best, I am the most important, I can be whatever I want, I can have whatever I want, I can have it all, the world is mine for the taking!"

And (cynically) that's because it was thought that those people would then be driven to productivity AND excessive spending within the consumer economy.

What they didn't expect but I think was somewhat inevitable, is that the NEXT generation (the ones who were BORN into that narrative) would have it so firmly embedded in their sense of self that they place importance on self/the individual in really extreme and often bizarre ways... and when you boil it right down... it was sparked by a late-stage capitalist idea that "self centred people will want to buy themselves more stuff".
Well put. Like I said it's not something I know a lot about, and I haven't seen the argument expanded like that, only seen end stage capitalism being broadly blamed with no explanation:)

It used to be a joke/meme that people would write "**** capitalism" on their iPhone and their selfies would have a pile of Amazon boxes in the background, but while I've not seen anything quite as on the nose as that, I've seen things with similar levels of self-awareness.

[Livia]

Obviously, a real well-made coffee is better but Starbucks is still the best "high street coffee" after Nero, and there isn't always a nearby Nero ... so for that I think Starbucks needs to be appreciated and protected. I'm not a huge fan of their performative progressiveness at times but I have to put that to one side because otherwise, we might be stuck with Costa, and that's just really unthinkable.

I don't like Starbucks. I don't agree their coffee is the best, I'd rather support an independent. And I will never use a shop that doesn't accept legal currency.

Yes thiugh, Costa... Unthinkable..

[Crimson Dynamo]

i make my coffee at home and if i did somehow feel like one when out id go to MacDonalds

[Vanessa]

CaffeNero is the best. I love their coffee.
But sometimes I also get it at McDonalds.

[user104658]

CaffeNero is the best. I love their coffee.
But sometimes I also get it at McDonalds.

:clap1: Nero is the best high street coffee by miles.

[hijaxers]

Well it depends on if Vanessa Thomas and the worker have interacted more personally with each other in the past.

I personally don't think that is very likely, but it can't be ruled out.

Well thats not very likely as the woman never knew they didn't take cash so i doubt she'd been in there before.

[GoldHeart]

Did she know tbf?

If she did then she was being an asshole.

Then why not just explain to the customer ? , the way things are at the moment.... people are getting cancelled left right and centre for just making mistakes.

As I keep saying ,this whole " respect my pronouns" seems to be a one way street. As they can be as abusive and loud and nasty as they way ...even when the person genuinely doesn't know their gender .

Also think of all the abuse and name calling workers get called in general... funny how they can still behave in a professional calm manner . But not this self entitled worker ,who wants to make a scene.

Also if I've read the headline correctly,it sounds like it's another worker getting offended on behalf of the trans person? . That's another thing that irritates me aswell :bored: .

[Vanessa]

Some coffee shops only take cards.
That suits me fine, I usually pay by card anyway.

[Crimson Dynamo]

This video was discusse3d by Ben Shapiro on his daily wire show

[Zizu]

Then why not just explain to the customer ? , the way things are at the moment.... people are getting cancelled left right and centre for just making mistakes.

As I keep saying ,this whole " respect my pronouns" seems to be a one way street. As they can be as abusive and loud and nasty as they way ...even when the person genuinely doesn't know their gender .

Also think of all the abuse and name calling workers get called in general... funny how they can still behave in a professional calm manner . But not this self entitled worker ,who wants to make a scene.

Also if I've read the headline correctly,it sounds like it's another worker getting offended on behalf of the trans person? . That's another thing that irritates me aswell :bored: .


Well I assumed that the aggressive person in the video — the one that was shouting at the customer and who then ran out of the shop and attacked the person outside who was filming it on their mobile was the transperson ?!?


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[Vanessa]

The woman probably didn't know.
There's no need to be so aggressive.

[Niamh.]

CaffeNero is the best. I love their coffee.
But sometimes I also get it at McDonalds.

I actually really like McDonalds Coffee, never buy it from any of the coffee chains really

[Vanessa]

I actually really like McDonalds Coffee, never buy it from any of the coffee chains really

Yes, it's pretty good.

[Oliver_W]

Well I assumed that the aggressive person in the video — the one that was shouting at the customer and who then ran out of the shop and attacked the person outside who was filming it on their mobile was the transperson ?!?


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What was your first clue?

[Niamh.]

Well I assumed that the aggressive person in the video — the one that was shouting at the customer and who then ran out of the shop and attacked the person outside who was filming it on their mobile was the transperson ?!?


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I think that the aggressive employee is a transwoman and that person was getting angry on behalf of the person behind the counter who is biologically female but identifies as non binary and the lady getting shouted at had referred to the person behind the counter as a lady ? I think anyway, i may have that wrong

[Oliver_W]

This video was discusse3d by Ben Shapiro on his daily wire show

Lol any valuable insights from him?

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think that the aggressive employee is a transwoman and that person was getting angry on behalf of the person behind the counter who is biologically female but identifies as non binary? I think anyway, i may have that wrong

YEP

as if any rational woman in their fifties would indulge some punk kid playing "im a non binary" not a lady?

narcissistic self-entitlement from a pink-hair coffee pourer?

i have heard it all now

[Zizu]

I think that the aggressive employee is a transwoman and that person was getting angry on behalf of the person behind the counter who is biologically female but identifies as non binary and the lady getting shouted at had referred to the person behind the counter as a lady ? I think anyway, i may have that wrong


You could well be correct


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[Zizu]

Also if I've read the headline correctly,it sounds like it's another worker getting offended on behalf of the trans person? . That's another thing that irritates me aswell :bored: .


Which headline are you referring to ?


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[GoldHeart]

Which headline are you referring to ?


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I worded that wrong....I meant the news story in general.

Now I'm hearing it's actually a trans person getting angry on behalf of a person who identifies as 'non binary'. Which just makes this even more ridiculous. How is anyone going to know a singular person prefers to be called " they them " :facepalm: . Plus it's not natural to call a person " they / them" ,so obviously our eyes will always assume someone is either male or female :shrug:.

It's gone too far with this oversensitive bs now . Biology doesn't care about people's feelings at the end of the day.

[Beso]

Posie raised a good point in that a disturbing amount of adults act like their feelings should be front-and-centre, and have an incredibly entitled attitude.

In what world is it okay to act like that at all, let alone when you're working in a public facing role?


You might be thinking of the actual woman? She doesn't identify as a woman, she uses they/them pronouns I think.

t would make it easier all round for your average citizen if they made it, They/Them/It.

[bots]

There is nothing wrong with using "Hey you" when talking to someone :laugh:

[Zizu]

I worded that wrong....I meant the news story in general.

Now I'm hearing it's actually a trans person getting angry on behalf of a person who identifies as 'non binary'. Which just makes this even more ridiculous. How is anyone going to know a singular person prefers to be called " they them " :facepalm: . Plus it's not natural to call a person " they / them" ,so obviously our eyes will always assume someone is either male or female :shrug:.

It's gone too far with this oversensitive bs now . Biology doesn't care about people's feelings at the end of the day.


Yeah .. I’m probably too old to ever understand the finer points of this gender stuff ..

It appears to be an absolute minefield


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[Beso]

There is nothing wrong with using "Hey you" when talking to someone :laugh:

2 expressos and a latte please, Hey you.

[Mystic Mock]

|it's not against the law to mis gender someone. How could it be given it's almost impossible to tell on occasion

It's not against the law, and there's nothing wrong with accidentally misgendering someone either imo.

However if someone were to deliberately misgender someone then imo they'd be being a bit of a douche.

[Oliver_W]

It's not against the law, and there's nothing wrong with accidentally misgendering someone either imo.

However if someone were to deliberately misgender someone then imo they'd be being a bit of a douche.

It doesn't sound like the lady from the OP did deliberately misgender anyone - the woman she referred to as a woman identified as non-binary, and the transwoman throwing the ma'amtrum was definitely the asshole douche.

[Mystic Mock]

Well thats not very likely as the woman never knew they didn't take cash so i doubt she'd been in there before.

That's why I don't think that it's likely, and that more than likely the worker was being unfair to the customer and expecting her to be psychic.

[Mystic Mock]

It doesn't sound like the lady from the OP did deliberately misgender anyone - the woman she referred to as a woman identified as non-binary, and the transwoman throwing the ma'amtrum was definitely the asshole douche.

Fair enough.

[Jordan.]

'The whole incident has left Vanessa very upset and distraught and she's currently on holiday recovering.'


:facepalm:

[Alf]

:clap1: Nero is the best high street coffee by miles.A jar of Mellow birds rules the roost.

[Livia]

A jar of Mellow birds rules the roost.

Alfie... That's barely even recognised as coffee......

[Alf]

Alfie... That's barely even recognised as coffee......That's why it's the favourite of this tea drinker.

[Livia]

That's why it's the favourite of this tea drinker.

Oh... Well that"a acceptable. Yorkshire tea, presumably? I'm a Nescafe Gold blend girl. My OH thinks I'm a heathen for not drinking fresh...

[user104658]

A manager I had in my early 20's used to get "mountain roast" from Pound land. Two jars for £1. I honestly can't describe it... Like drinking battery acid...

I had a little jar of kenco that I kept stashed in my work bag :joker:

[Oliver_W]

A manager I had in my early 20's used to get "mountain roast" from Pound land. Two jars for £1. I honestly can't describe it... Like drinking battery acid...

I had a little jar of kenco that I kept stashed in my work bag :joker:

I used to make fun of "coffee snobs" who refused to drink cheap coffee. I was speaking from someone who'd only ever had midrange (Nescafe etc) and above, so didn't yet know whereof I spoke.

Then I had a poundland coffee .... I instantly understood the "snobs", and wondered when the dire rear would strike.

[Niamh.]

A manager I had in my early 20's used to get "mountain roast" from Pound land. Two jars for £1. I honestly can't describe it... Like drinking battery acid...

I had a little jar of kenco that I kept stashed in my work bag :joker:

I used to make fun of "coffee snobs" who refused to drink cheap coffee. I was speaking from someone who'd only ever had midrange (Nescafe etc) and above, so didn't yet know whereof I spoke.

Then I had a poundland coffee .... I instantly understood the "snobs", and wondered when the dire rear would strike.

This is a really good instant coffee

https://kaffekapslen.media/media/catalog/product/cache/943794e2775b00c1d1130998d5fd15f1/i/c/ic-nescafe-azera-americano-100g-0001.jpg

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://kaffekapslen.media/media/catalog/product/cache/874cc1dc39844d26ad7be3d843259d32/i/c/ic-nescafe-gold-8-cappuccino-0011.jpg



I have one of these every morning with my marmite toast. No need for sugar, just tip the sachet into a big mug add boiling water, stir anti-clockwise 30 times, add milk, and stir 2 times and its lush. I think iv been having it 365 days a year for at least 10 years?

[bots]

I'm strictly a bean to cup person, but i've found that even buying the best beans, i need to vary the bean choice for it to remain tasting really good. Your palate gets used to what you drink and you need to vary it to enjoy to the fullest

[user104658]

https://i.imgur.com/LHJ4SRs.png

This is the best boy for instant I'm afraid.

Not a big fan of the little sachets.

Azera I like the taste of but it gives me indigestion :think:.

[Niamh.]

https://i.imgur.com/LHJ4SRs.png

This is the best boy for instant I'm afraid.

Not a big fan of the little sachets.

Azera I like the taste of but it gives me indigestion :think:.

I actually have that one (actually Original rather than Intense) at work atm because the shop I went to didn't have Azera

[thesheriff443]

I'm strictly a bean to cup person, but i've found that even buying the best beans, i need to vary the bean choice for it to remain tasting really good. Your palate gets used to what you drink and you need to vary it to enjoy to the fullest

What’s that culture where the women chew the food before the man eats it?

[Vanessa]

We have a coffee machine at work.
It's quite nice. I usually get an espresso macchiato, but they also have cappuccino and latte.

[Vanessa]

https://i.imgur.com/LHJ4SRs.png

This is the best boy for instant I'm afraid.

Not a big fan of the little sachets.

Azera I like the taste of but it gives me indigestion :think:.
I've never tried this. I want to get it for work.
Just to drink something different :laugh:

[Swan]

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lol

[Livia]

It's a man. Not many women would act like that. Strange how many trans "women" use their fists to get their point across.

[Crimson Dynamo]

mObLe2YGnB4

[Oliver_W]

Male entitlement, male socialisation.

[Cherie]

Then why not just explain to the customer ? , the way things are at the moment.... people are getting cancelled left right and centre for just making mistakes.

As I keep saying ,this whole " respect my pronouns" seems to be a one way street. As they can be as abusive and loud and nasty as they way ...even when the person genuinely doesn't know their gender .

Also think of all the abuse and name calling workers get called in general... funny how they can still behave in a professional calm manner . But not this self entitled worker ,who wants to make a scene.

Also if I've read the headline correctly,it sounds like it's another worker getting offended on behalf of the trans person? . That's another thing that irritates me aswell :bored: .

Respect my pronouns while I call you Karen and clap in your face in an intimidatory way, great he was sacked, yes the person behind the counter did not complain probably has a normal attitude to someone making a mistake

[Cherie]

2 expressos and a latte please, Hey you.

:laugh:

[GoldHeart]

Respect my pronouns while I call you Karen and clap in your face in an intimidatory way, great he was sacked, yes the person behind the counter did not complain probably has a normal attitude to someone making a mistake

Was the person sacked?? , That's good if it's true .... hopefully there's still a bit of common sense in this cooky new world then.

[Cherie]

Was the person sacked?? , That's good if it's true .... hopefully there's still a bit of common sense in this cooky new world then.

yes and quite rightly so, anyone who feels that entitled has no place in a customer facing role

https://nypost.com/2023/05/09/starbucks-fires-trans-worker-who-accused-customer-of-being-transphobic/

[Vanessa]

I don't see the need to go that far.
Why not just correct the customer politely?

[Zizu]

I don't see the need to go that far.
Why not just correct the customer politely?


I obviously don’t know the person in question but there are loads of people these days who just love to be the centre of attention


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[Redway]

Obviously, a real well-made coffee is better but Starbucks is still the best "high street coffee" after Nero, and there isn't always a nearby Nero ... so for that I think Starbucks needs to be appreciated and protected. I'm not a huge fan of their performative progressiveness at times but I have to put that to one side because otherwise, we might be stuck with Costa, and that's just really unthinkable.

I vastly prefer Costa to Starbucks.

[Redway]

Some coffee shops only take cards.
That suits me fine, I usually pay by card anyway.

But sadly just to make things awkward there are some pubs out there what only take cash … in 2023.

[Oliver_W]

But sadly just to make things awkward there are some pubs out there what only take cash … in 2023.

Don't blame them tbh, it's a bit ridiculous that small businesses have to surrender a percentage of their own money just to use card transactions.

I basically always use cash for small or local businesses. And card for big corps because fck those guys :joker:

[user104658]

I vastly prefer Costa to Starbucks.

:omgno: ... ... I mean ... everyone has their preferences I guess... but it's just so fruity and watery :umm2:.

Their breakfast rolls are amazing though.

[user104658]

Don't blame them tbh, it's a bit ridiculous that small businesses have to surrender a percentage of their own money just to use card transactions.

I basically always use cash for small or local businesses. And card for big corps because fck those guys :joker:

I expect at SOME point as money goes more and more digital, they'll make it easier (and free) for small businesses to take contactless card payments.

[Oliver_W]

I expect at SOME point as money goes more and more digital, they'll make it easier (and free) for small businesses to take contactless card payments.

Hopefully. But until that day...

[user104658]

I do everything on google pay these days, the only reason I carry a card AT ALL is because fuel pumps are dragging their feet upgrading to contactless but loads of them no longer have a shop/booth, so if you don't have a physical card you can't fuel up at all!

Morrisons pumps have contactless now so it's possible and the rest will presumably upgrade over time.

Only places I pay cash is when I get a haircut because although they take card he strongly prefers the cash, and the local Chinese take-away because it's the best in the area but they don't take card or do any of the delivery apps ... I strongly suspect this is less about the extra charges, and more about tax fiddling and questionable immigration status of some of their staff ... but damnit their chicken noodle soup is amazing...

[Niamh.]

I do everything on google pay these days, the only reason I carry a card AT ALL is because fuel pumps are dragging their feet upgrading to contactless but loads of them no longer have a shop/booth, so if you don't have a physical card you can't fuel up at all!

Morrisons pumps have contactless now so it's possible and the rest will presumably upgrade over time.

Only places I pay cash is when I get a haircut because although they take card he strongly prefers the cash, and the local Chinese take-away because it's the best in the area but they don't take card or do any of the delivery apps ... I strongly suspect this is less about the extra charges, and more about tax fiddling and questionable immigration status of some of their staff ... but damnit their chicken noodle soup is amazing...

I'm more of a Chicken & Sweetcorn Soup fan

[Zizu]

I do everything on google pay these days, the only reason I carry a card AT ALL is because fuel pumps are dragging their feet upgrading to contactless but loads of them no longer have a shop/booth, so if you don't have a physical card you can't fuel up at all!

Morrisons pumps have contactless now so it's possible and the rest will presumably upgrade over time.

Only places I pay cash is when I get a haircut because although they take card he strongly prefers the cash, and the local Chinese take-away because it's the best in the area but they don't take card or do any of the delivery apps ... I strongly suspect this is less about the extra charges, and more about tax fiddling and questionable immigration status of some of their staff ... but damnit their chicken noodle soup is amazing...


Yeah I use my Apple Watch to pay for everything these days


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[Vanessa]

But sadly just to make things awkward there are some pubs out there what only take cash … in 2023.

I do carry a little cash with me all the time. Just in case the shops take only cash.

[Swan]

All these coffee places are so full of pretension anyway. I used to go to a COOP cafe for my coffee at lunch, was just a nice and a lot cheaper. And no upper middle class teens "putting the world to rights" thinking they're important and sophisticated.

[Cherie]

I would be very concerned if we lost the ability to pay with cash, there have been a few instances in the past few years where the systems have gone down and if you had no cash you had to leave without your shopping. I don't think there are any establishments in Spain where you can only pay with card, they all take both and that is how it should be.

[user104658]

I would be very concerned if we lost the ability to pay with cash, there have been a few instances in the past few years where the systems have gone down and if you had no cash you had to leave without your shopping. I don't think there are any establishments in Spain where you can only pay with card, they all take both and that is how it should be.

Gamblers would be very upset if cash was done away with -- especially the tradies who are actually just laundering their profits :joker:

[arista]

I do carry a little cash with me all the time. Just in case the shops take only cash.


Yes, that is wise.

[bots]

taxis are the only business i know that sometimes insist on cash

[Redway]

:omgno: ... ... I mean ... everyone has their preferences I guess... but it's just so fruity and watery :umm2:.

Their breakfast rolls are amazing though.

Costa flavours (from their customary vanilla-lattes and bog-standard cappuccinos to their seasonal/time-bound drinks) are alright with me, likewise for their sausage baps (it’s a generous sprinkling of brown sauce on them you need to make the taste truly come alive). What’s your problem?

[Redway]

Don't blame them tbh, it's a bit ridiculous that small businesses have to surrender a percentage of their own money just to use card transactions.

I basically always use cash for small or local businesses. And card for big corps because fck those guys :joker:

I suppose. But the thing is, Ollie, there are people who roll into their local a day or two before payday and barely have £4.80 for their Santander or Barclays account to rub together. Unless there’s a post-office nearby to withdraw cash and they can even be arsed going all the way, people like that are depending on using their cards to pay for their pints and shots.

[bots]

if retailers did not net more money accepting cards than not they simply wouldn't accept cards. Taking cash creates it's own overhead

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think one main issue is finding a bank to take it to. 10 years ago the valley had 3 banks now it has none. Retailers now have to go 35 miles to the nearest bank

[arista]

[Starbucks manager sacked
for ranting at woman she
accused of 'transphobia' is an outspoken
trans activist whose neighbours are
terrified of 'offending by mistakenly
saying the wrong thing']


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/05/12/15/70912451-12077475-image-a-25_1683902944759.jpg
[Luna had been working in the Starbucks,
which is partially owned by a licensor for
the past six months combining the job
with studying for a degree in
Environmental Science at the Open University]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12077475/Starbucks-manager-sacked-transphobia-rant-activist-terrifies-neighbours.html

[Zizu]

So many questions ..

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[Cherie]

[Starbucks manager sacked
for ranting at woman she
accused of 'transphobia' is an outspoken
trans activist whose neighbours are
terrified of 'offending by mistakenly
saying the wrong thing']


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[Luna had been working in the Starbucks,
which is partially owned by a licensor for
the past six months combining the job
with studying for a degree in
Environmental Science at the Open University]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12077475/Starbucks-manager-sacked-transphobia-rant-activist-terrifies-neighbours.html

Luna...of course

[Cherie]

So many questions ..

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What’s with the eyebrows?

[arista]

Because she went potty
Starbucks Fired her


Logical

[Cherie]

Because she went potty
Starbucks Fired her


Logical

Yes good move, you can’t just do what you want in society

[bots]

What’s with the eyebrows?

i would never know the sex of that person from just looking at them

[Cherie]

i would never know the sex of that person from just looking at them

Nope and given men wear make up not sure how we are meant to know

[GoldHeart]

I would be very concerned if we lost the ability to pay with cash, there have been a few instances in the past few years where the systems have gone down and if you had no cash you had to leave without your shopping. I don't think there are any establishments in Spain where you can only pay with card, they all take both and that is how it should be.

Exactly

I just can't see us becoming a 100% cashless society, machines are always breaking down....and there's always going to be digital errors.

I understand the convenience of just using and taking card payments, but we still need to carry a bit of cash around.

I know when it's a coffee shop or other food or drink place, the workers probably don't want to be touching money and then touching food at the same time ...for hygiene reasons and as it's less messing about.

But to completely scrap cash.... is a mistake. I've seen it when people's cards get declined over and over again due to the shop's Machine playing up . I find it funny when the worker assumes it's the customer's fault ...they always say " oh it must be an issue with your card" :rolleyes: .

[Oliver_W]

with studying for a degree in
Environmental Science at the Open University]

That will come in handy...