View Full Version : Russell Brand allegations - Channel 4 Dispatches & Sunday Times
arista
17-09-2023, 03:22 PM
Like I say, that's small potatoes to the bigger picture. But if he did rape anyone 16 or younger or older then give him the punishment that that deserves. The thing is, I just don't believe anything the MSM says. They're the same people that covered up for Saville until he died. Why would I trust them? They're constantly asking me for my hard earned money for this and that. They're not my kind of people.
But the Main Stream Media
have given your Trump
a fresh Interview.
This Morning NBC USA
CNN HD USA Inside Politics on UK TV
showed loads of clips
Keep Up Alf
if i was a betting man, i would say that Brand is the entry point the papers have used on this one. There is something wider going on
But the Main Stream Media
have given your Trump
a fresh Interview.
This Morning NBC USA
CNN HD USA Inside Politics on UK TV
showed loads of clips
Keep Up AlfTrump will be the mainstream in two years time. When people wake up and realise what this great man did for the people. His name will live forever and well deserved.
He used his wealth for good. Puts him up there with Jesus in my opinion. Although Jesus didn't have his wealth. Although I dont know how wealthy Jesus was, Sticks may be more educated on that than me? I haven't investigated that. I do imagine as a carpenter that Jesus didn't have much wealth though.
Trump meant nothing to me 10 years ago. Now I rate him as one of the greatest people to walk the Earth. I'm not a religious person. But I'm all in for MAGA. Because this is my time.
The Slim Reaper
17-09-2023, 03:41 PM
if i was a betting man, i would say that Brand is the entry point the papers have used on this one. There is something wider going on
Looks like Alf has snared himself a catch :laugh:
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Looks like Alf has snared himself a catch :laugh:
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it's not a conspiracy, every investigation has a starting point, and this is it :laugh:
The Slim Reaper
17-09-2023, 03:47 PM
it's not a conspiracy, every investigation has a starting point, and this is it :laugh:
That's what Alf used to say when he started, and now look. This is a gateway drug. Soon you'll be joining r/incels and r/trump, and then there is no backing out.
Looks like Alf has snared himself a catch :laugh:
https://media.tenor.com/AbGogeKN8I4AAAAC/matrix-not-like-this.gifMy dream is to catch you Slim. You know I like and respect your fight, even though right now you're fighting the wrong fights. You're still one of us. And I will always fight for us. I would never leave you out.
The Slim Reaper
17-09-2023, 03:55 PM
My dream is to catch you Slim. You know I like and respect your fight, even though right now you're fighting the wrong fights. You're still one of us. And I will always fight for us. I would never leave you out.
You sweet talking bastard, I'm in :laugh:
Cherie
17-09-2023, 03:56 PM
we got ourselves a blossoming bromance ...the chalk and cheese have collided :laugh:
You sweet talking bastard, I'm in :laugh:I have the gift of the gab.
That's what Alf used to say when he started, and now look. This is a gateway drug. Soon you'll be joining r/incels and r/trump, and then there is no backing out.
nah, i'm a hair sniffer all the way
Cherie
17-09-2023, 03:57 PM
The Schofe must be on the phone to his agent by now, surely there has been enough new scoops for him to make a triumphant come back
if i was a true conspiracy theorist, i would say this was all designed to bring down the bbc
Cherie
17-09-2023, 03:59 PM
Even Huw could stick his head above the parapet, now Brand has taken us to a new low of just legal
The Slim Reaper
17-09-2023, 04:01 PM
I have the gift of the gab.
What days does our militia meet up?
Cherie
17-09-2023, 04:01 PM
if i was a true conspiracy theorist, i would say this was all designed to bring down the bbc
I do think there must be more to it because as a scoop its pretty pointless, the way he was managed by the Beeb was very dubious though and I would add Jonathan Ross into the mix how his career survived the Sachs debacle
Crimson Dynamo
17-09-2023, 04:05 PM
Every MSM outlet going with the "conspiracy theorist" hit angle...
Nicky91
17-09-2023, 04:05 PM
#IStandwithRussell
if i was a true conspiracy theorist, i would say this was all designed to bring down the bbcHopefully. I would be better off in the pocket. I could get more groceries instead of paying for Stephen Fry's airplane tickets while he lectures us about climate Bull****.
The Slim Reaper
17-09-2023, 04:08 PM
Me meeting Alf's friends for the first time, on our blood and soil patriot retreat.
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Me meeting Alf's friends for the first time, on our blood and soil patriot retreat.
https://y.yarn.co/d08a7d4a-60c8-4b34-8332-93d73fc748c6_text.gifMost of my mates were Corbyn voters. I'm from East Hull. A Labour stronghold for decades. That's why I know your grievences. I just discovered Trump.
arista
17-09-2023, 04:12 PM
#IStandwithRussell
You are backing a Rapist
The Slim Reaper
17-09-2023, 04:17 PM
Most of my mates were Corbyn voters. I'm from East Hull. A Labour stronghold for decades. That's why I know your grievences. I just discovered Trump.
I don't get how you go from there, to the man who has shafted working class people all his life.
I've said before that you often arrive at what the problem is, you just put your faith in bad actors that are using these causes to either further their own careers, or line their own pockets.
I don't get how you go from there, to the man who has shafted working class people all his life.
I've said before that you often arrive at what the problem is, you just put your faith in bad actors that are using these causes to either further their own careers, or line their own pockets.He hasn't. He employed working class people. Builders. Brickies, plasterers ect. That's the people he loves because they built his fortune. Now in his final years he has decided to fight for them little people and expose the criminsls.
If he said tomorrow that he was stepping out of politics. He'd go live a life of luxury with his billions and the media wouldn't even bother him. But instead you're witnessing them trying to throw him in prison because he Can't be bought and doesn't play the deep state games.
He won in 2016. Everything you see now is exposing the deep state.
You should never listen to the establishment about Trump. Listen to the people. The people love him and with great reason. Trump is fighting for us all at the mercy of the globalist elite.
He's not a naughty boy, he's our messiah
I don't continually go on about Trump for no reason. I do it because I care. I'm not some brainwashed muppet. I can see the cloud for the trees. We're at a huge moment in human civilisation right now. It's Trump which is the light and freedom. Or anti-Trump which is cervailance, 15 minute cities, social credit. Basically what China is right now. Because our Western leaders have all sold out to China for the money. You saw how they could control populations of people during covid. They had most people on strings like puppets. That was just a test.
You've all witnessed the illegal immigration. Although you're too scared to speak up. You know it's all young men that are coming in. You know you can't see pensioners, women and children.
It's you We're waiting for to speak up.
Says Alf, sucking on Trump's nipples of nourishment
Crimson Dynamo
17-09-2023, 05:31 PM
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user104658
17-09-2023, 05:39 PM
It's Trump which is the light and freedom.
I can't fathom how far gone down the rabbit hole you have to be to unironically type something like this and not realise you're in a cult.
Says Alf, sucking on Trump's nipples of nourishmentYou only wish that you were suckling on the great ones teet too.
I don't mind you take it out on me? Let me be your archery board. You will be suckling on The Don's teet soon. That's a promise.
I can't fathom how far gone down the rabbit hole you have to be to unironically type something like this and not realise you're in a cult.Like I said, you are a Storm trooper. But one day you will have to say "You were right all along, you are the best Alf." Them's the days I persist for.
Says Alf, sucking on Trump's nipples of nourishmentYou do know that the first person I'll be coming for is not Slim or Soldier Boy. It will be you when The Don exposes to you the total corruption.
I like Slim
Soldier Boy is a bit enthusiastic but means well.
You come across like you have a detest for me
I know my enemies.
Don't worry, you'll still be one of my team, although I will have fun milking it.
The Slim Reaper
17-09-2023, 06:32 PM
Darren Grimes was fired for sexually harassing male staffers. He was brought back after he received the support of a powerful ally. A guy called Martin Branning/Dan Wooton. I wonder why these folks would rush to the aide of brand.
Crimson Dynamo
17-09-2023, 06:43 PM
Darren Grimes was fired for sexually harassing male staffers. He was brought back after he received the support of a powerful ally. A guy called Martin Branning/Dan Wooton. I wonder why these folks would rush to the aide of brand.
yeah like JP and Musk
meanwhile in your camp is Rupert Murdoch and Larry Fink
that is quite the comrade's duo you have there
:skull:
Darren Grimes was fired for sexually harassing male staffers. He was brought back after he received the support of a powerful ally. A guy called Martin Branning/Dan Wooton. I wonder why these folks would rush to the aide of brand.But Slim, you should be asking questions like, Who were the clients of Ghislaine Maxwell? Who attended Epstein Island? It was obviously the elites. We're talking royalty, politicians, top actors and personalities.
Don't come back at me with Trump. You know I ain't buying that. So a waste of time.
Darren Grimes is small potatoes.
The Slim Reaper
17-09-2023, 06:58 PM
But Slim, you should be asking questions like, Who were the clients of Ghislaine Maxwell? Who attended Epstein Island? It was obviously the elites. We're talking royalty, politicians, top actors and personalities.
Don't come back at me with Trump. You know I ain't buying that. So a waste of time.
Darren Grimes is small potatoes.
I'm fully onboard with this crusade. Here's the problem with the performative nature of this, though; If Corbyn was in that book, I'd say "fcuk him, the dirty paeedo". if trump was in there, you'd pretend it was a ruse so people would trust him to bring it all crashing down from the inside.
One of those scenarios is far more likely than the other.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/21/nyregion/trump-ghislaine-maxwell-jeffrey-epstein.html
Trump’s Warm Words for Ghislaine Maxwell: ‘I Just Wish Her Well’
The president’s comments about Ms. Maxwell, who is charged with luring girls into Jeffrey Epstein’s orbit, drew new attention to Mr. Trump’s friendship with Mr. Epstein.
I'm fully onboard with this crusade. Here's the problem with the performative nature of this, though; If Corbyn was in that book, I'd say "fcuk him, the dirty paeedo". if trump was in there, you'd pretend it was a ruse so people would trust him to bring it all crashing down from the inside.
One of those scenarios is far more likely than the other.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/21/nyregion/trump-ghislaine-maxwell-jeffrey-epstein.html
Trump’s Warm Words for Ghislaine Maxwell: ‘I Just Wish Her Well’
The president’s comments about Ms. Maxwell, who is charged with luring girls into Jeffrey Epstein’s orbit, drew new attention to Mr. Trump’s friendship with Mr. Epstein.Trust me. If they had anything on Trump. Then he'd already be locked up. The thing is, they have nothing on Trump. Not even his taxes. The military wouldn't make these mistakes to choose the person to front this mission.
Like I keep saying. Stop listening to the enemies of the resistance. The deep state who controls all media. It isn't gonna show the leader of the resistance in any good light are they? I know you have a loaf. Use it.
Crimson Dynamo
17-09-2023, 07:41 PM
I notice that the DM and DT have run around 30 articles this weekend on Brand and not one is open to be commented on
This is not a Police matter but no comments are allowed
hmmm....
If this is all the papers can come up with as the revelation of the year, it's a pretty sad state of affairs
Oliver_W
17-09-2023, 07:57 PM
I notice that the DM and DT have run around 30 articles this weekend on Brand and not one is open to be commented on
This is not a Police matter but no comments are allowed
hmmm....
Probably because they know the comments would descend into bizarre discussions about Trump and Epstein.
DemolitionRed
17-09-2023, 08:29 PM
Yes he used to be on real TV
By real TV you mean on a tv channel?
We are presently living through an age where main stream TV especially the media, are as corrupt as the government we are living under.
Thank God we have alternative media on YT, Rumble, Telegram, Odysee and more, but if you and others on here never look at anything other than what you consider to be 'real TV' then its doubtful you will have much of an idea as to why Russel Brand is now suffering at the hands of the propaganda machine.
The Slim Reaper
17-09-2023, 08:32 PM
Holy Mary, mother of god.
DemolitionRed
17-09-2023, 08:33 PM
:hello::hello:
Like I keep saying. Stop listening to the enemies of the resistance. The deep state who controls all media. It isn't gonna show the leader of the resistance in any good light are they? I know you have a loaf. Use it.
Worth repeating.
By real TV you mean on a tv channel?
We are presently living through an age where main stream TV especially the media, are as corrupt as the government we are living under.
Thank God we have alternative media on YT, Rumble, Telegram, Odysee and more, but if you and others on here never look at anything other than what you consider to be 'real TV' then its doubtful you will have much of an idea as to why Russel Brand is now suffering at the hands of the propaganda machine.Now this is a poster on my wavelength. They mention Rumble and Telegram. Something that Soldier Boys masters have forbidden him from. But for free people, they actually exist.
Crimson Dynamo
17-09-2023, 08:40 PM
been watching a lot of Rumble vids this weekend
Big up the "Truth social massive"
I'm more truth social these days. Twitter has got a bit more hard work since Elon took over. They no longer let you have multiple accounts.
DemolitionRed
17-09-2023, 08:57 PM
It's all good though. Because like I keep repeating. The Don and the military are in total control. And it's all going to end soon.
In the thread I made last night titled "The Great one" The Don tells you exactly what's gonna happen when he wins next year.
Obviously he doesn't need to win as he is already in control, but he has to do it this way for you sleeping people.
You don't think Biden is making Fook up's every single week for no reason do you. It's because he's not in control. If he was, you wouldn't even see him mixing up his words or falling down the stairs. His son and his business dealings wouldn't be known. It's about waking people up.
And right now, you think I'm crazy for thinking that, I know that. But eventually you will have to admit that I was right all along. And that pay off is why I persist. I'm very confident.
Its been one hell of a journey for me Alf. Not that long ago I was a Left wing Trump hater.... then Covid hit and suddenly I had a lot more time on my hands and I started to learn about things (factual things) I previously had no idea about.
Then, when you start to learn the realities of child trafficking, gain of function and most importantly, what Trump was trying to achieve whilst in office, it becomes a game changer.
On here, apart from a few of us, you're on your own because the percentage are strivers and doubters.
As you well know, there are millions of us and the awakening to global corruption grows massively every day.
They say, "the easiest thing to do is have a nation living a lie and the hardest thing to do is convince those people they are living in a lie". You've persevered for years, so good on you. I can't come on here as often as you do, as I need to be with my own people.
Niamh.
17-09-2023, 09:03 PM
I haven't seen the show and I really like(d) Russell, also I wouldn't put it passed media to stitch someone up however when you think back to what Russell was like back then its easy to believe he might have crossed lines with women
Its been one hell of a journey for me Alf. Not that long ago I was a Left wing Trump hater.... then Covid hit and suddenly I had a lot more time on my hands and I started to learn about things (factual things) I previously had no idea about.
Then, when you start to learn the realities of child trafficking, gain of function and most importantly, what Trump was trying to achieve whilst in office, it becomes a game changer.
On here, apart from a few of us, you're on your own because the percentage are strivers and doubters.
As you well know, there are millions of us and the awakening to global corruption grows massively every day.
They say, "the easiest thing to do is have a nation living a lie and the hardest thing to do is convince those people they are living in a lie". You've persevered for years, so good on you. I can't come on here as often as you do, as I need to be with my own people.I will always persevere. Because the people on this forum are my friends and my people.
Like Trump, I take the slings and arrows gladly for them.
In the end, both you and I know that I was right. And that's good enough for me.
Mystic Mock
17-09-2023, 09:22 PM
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Benjamin Mendy was found not guilty, not actually cleared of being innocent 100%.
I mean quite a few people did come forward in that case, and I do wonder if he worked a different kind of job to Football, what would the verdict have been? It's all speculation on my part of course.
With Russell Brand it honestly doesn't look good for him that five women came forward, plus him not being gifted enough to kick a ball about for 90 mins.
I don't want him to be guilty because of childhood memories of him on Big Brother's Big Mouth, but the evidence doesn't look good against him.
Mystic Mock
17-09-2023, 09:31 PM
We all saw how Johnny Depp got away with years of physical abuse against his ex wife.
That was just a very dysfunctional relationship from both parties.
Mystic Mock
17-09-2023, 09:50 PM
It's all good though. Because like I keep repeating. The Don and the military are in total control. And it's all going to end soon.
In the thread I made last night titled "The Great one" The Don tells you exactly what's gonna happen when he wins next year.
Obviously he doesn't need to win as he is already in control, but he has to do it this way for you sleeping people.
You don't think Biden is making Fook up's every single week for no reason do you. It's because he's not in control. If he was, you wouldn't even see him mixing up his words or falling down the stairs. His son and his business dealings wouldn't be known. It's about waking people up.
And right now, you think I'm crazy for thinking that, I know that. But eventually you will have to admit that I was right all along. And that pay off is why I persist. I'm very confident.
So you're saying that all of Biden's "**** ups" are really Trump's **** ups, because Trump is the one that's really in control?
Mystic Mock
17-09-2023, 10:05 PM
And why I've gone off topic should be clear. Because this is just a smokescreen story.
Even look at the Huw Edwards thread, I pretty much hardly comnented. Because I know that they're all smoke screen stories.
This isn't about Brand. It's about us vs them.
One thing I can meet you halfway on is that I do believe that the Media likes to use other atrocities or controversies to distract people away from what our leaders are getting up to behind the scenes.
However where we're going to diverge is that I include Trump in helping the Media cover up Government atrocities.
So you're saying that all of Biden's "**** ups" are really Trump's **** ups, because Trump is the one that's really in control?Yes! That's exactly what I'm saying. Do you have an argument to challenge mine in favour of Biden?
user104658
17-09-2023, 10:16 PM
then Covid hit and suddenly I had a lot more time on my hands
Clearly :joker:. As was pointed out to Alf waaay back when he started banging on about this after he got banned for 6 months and fell down an indoctrination rabbit hole ... I've been aware of Truther lore for literally decades. I knew exactly where his rhetoric was coming from as soon as he started posting it, and he repeatedly denied it at first. This isn't new. It's just spilled over into some sort of bizarre mass appeal.
Probably because of Covid as you say. Everyone had far too much time on their hands, and anything vaguely resembling critical thinking and reason left the building :facepalm:.
I'm not a mainstream shill; there are plenty of things that I'm highly skeptical about... but the choices aren't binary between "ardent mainstream ignoramus" and "hopeless Trump Truther" ffs. You'll be shooting up hydrocloxicloriquine and telling us you believe in Flat Earth next. What on earth happened.
Clearly :joker:. As was pointed out to Alf waaay back when he started banging on about this after he got banned for 6 months and fell down an indoctrination rabbit hole ... I've been aware of Truther lore for literally decades. I knew exactly where his rhetoric was coming from as soon as he started posting it, and he repeatedly denied it at first. This isn't new. It's just spilled over into some sort of bizarre mass appeal.
Probably because of Covid as you say. Everyone had far too much time on their hands, and anything vaguely resembling critical thinking and reason left the building :facepalm:.
I'm not a mainstream shill; there are plenty of things that I'm highly skeptical about... but the choices aren't binary between "ardent mainstream ignoramus" and "hopeless Trump Truther" ffs. You'll be shooting up hydrocloxicloriquine and telling us you believe in Flat Earth next. What on earth happened.It was Niamh who banned me for 6 months because I called her a Karen.
And after that 6 months was up the first thing I did was apologie's to Niamh.
Isn't that right Neem?
Just think how many lives I could have saved whilst banned during Covid?
Just think how isolated I was during the lockdown when I was banned from here for six months.
Good job I'm a strong character.because that isolation could have brought a weaker characters to suicide. And I know all about suicide because in 2014 my best friend did just that.
user104658
17-09-2023, 10:27 PM
It was Niamh who banned me for 6 months because I called her a Karen.
And after that 6 months was up the first thing I did was apologie's to Niamh.
Isn't that right Neem?
The reasons aren't really the point, it's that you spent the time you were banned reading up on old-as-the-hills QAnon conspiracy junk and then came back with it on repeat as though it was some brand new revelatory information, not realising (or accepting to this day) that some of us have heard it all 100x before, going back as far as the late 90's. It's just a new version of the same "special secret knowledge" that's been thrown around on certain sites since long before the Internet was mainstream.
But now it's being served up to a mainstream audience (yes that's you, ironically!) and the effect of that is completely insane.
Mystic Mock
17-09-2023, 10:28 PM
I will always persevere. Because the people on this forum are my friends and my people.
Like Trump, I take the slings and arrows gladly for them.
In the end, both you and I know that I was right. And that's good enough for me.
It's good to know that someone else can be friends with people whilst not having to agree with each other on every single topic.
I personally respect that.
Mystic Mock
17-09-2023, 10:32 PM
Yes! That's exactly what I'm saying. Do you have an argument to challenge mine in favour of Biden?
Oh I think that Biden has been a useless President.
Mystic Mock
17-09-2023, 10:34 PM
Just think how many lives I could have saved whilst banned during Covid?
Just think how isolated I was during the lockdown when I was banned from here for six months.
Good job I'm a strong character.because that isolation could have brought a weaker characters to suicide. And I know all about suicide because in 2014 my best friend did just that.
I'm sorry to hear about your friend.
The reasons aren't really the point, it's that you spent the time you were banned reading up on old-as-the-hills QAnon conspiracy junk and then came back with it on repeat as though it was some brand new revelatory information, not realising (or accepting to this day) that some of us have heard it all 100x before, going back as far as the late 90's. It's just a new version of the same "special secret knowledge" that's been thrown around on certain sites since long before the Internet was mainstream.
But now it's being served up to a mainstream audience (yes that's you, ironically!) and the effect of that is completely insane.You were spying on me while I was banned and knew every thing I did?
Ot did I just see Q posts come on twitter and make a thread on here to learn if anyone else knew what it was all about. Then you took that as an opportunity to think you had some supperioity over me. But you soon got slapped down when you realised that you're below me in intelligence? And could never beat me.
You see I have great memory. That's a skill I have. I Don't forget what happened. I can remember posts on here from 2009. When I first joined this forum.
I remember a poster called Areenal. I also remember learning about the death of Michael Jackson on this very forum. This was the place I heard that news story for the first time. My memory is fantastic, so don't try to con me. It's all recorded on the forum. I can probably find my original thread asking questions about Q if you like SB and it will show you trying to take it in another direction and then me putting you in your place.
user104658
17-09-2023, 11:14 PM
I can probably find my original thread asking questions about Q if you like SB and it will show you trying to take it in another direction and then me putting you in your place.
Please do.
If I wanted to do a Qanon thread, I would just post a thread on that topic. Toy Soldier got me more interested In that movement than anything. When I first made the thread I was generally curious for other opinions. But after Soldier Boys Input it made me more curious. I still believed it was either a psyop or religious cult but Solldir boys deterrent was a green light for me to investigate further.
In 2023. I still can honestly say. I don't know what it was but still follow some twitter accounts that do claim to know what it's about. They make no sense to me.
user104658
17-09-2023, 11:28 PM
Anybody been following the Q/Qanon (conspiracy) theory?
When this pandemic happened in March, all of a sudden, Twitter went crazy with these people. I'd never heard of them before that, but I was interested with what they were saying. A lot of the stuff I read was far fetched, but there was 1 or 2 gems amongst it, that I believe needed to be answered.
It was like a film, everyday, I'd wake up and immediately go on twitter to see what was happening in Q world
This has been going on in various forms since I started using forums/the interwebby back in 1999, under various names and guises.
https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=371834
Lol
What do you mean you don't know what it was? You're still spouting their rhetoric on every thread. Trump Truthism/anti-Covid/Flat Earthers is all QAnon-rooted Internet garbage.
Please do.OK. It can't be hard. It must be called Q or Qanon.
The only one when searching "Qanon" is a thread from Slim.
I'll try Q
Nothing come up for "Q"
If anyone can find my original thread then post it.
It must have been around between August and October 2020. I know I got banned in March. 2020 was the right year wasn't it Soldier?
user104658
17-09-2023, 11:35 PM
The only one when searching "Qanon" is a thread from Slim.
I'll try Q
I linked to it. It was you asking about Q, a few people pointing out that it's was nothing new and that plenty of people already knew about it going way back, and then you continuing to misunderstand what it is or was. Apparently you still have no idea, because you're still a QAnon copy-paste machine to this day and you don't even seem to realise it. Bizarre stuff!
I linked to it. It was you asking about Q, a few people pointing out that it's was nothing new and that plenty of people already knew about it going way back, and then you continuing to misunderstand what it is or was. Apparently you still have no idea, because you're still a QAnon copy-paste machine to this day and you don't even seem to realise it. Bizarre stuff!I was just remembering I was talking about Madonna and Ellen de Generes in the thread because it was those posts that alerted me to it.
There's me. A working class lad from East Yorkshire being a part of Q and I didn't even know it. Thank God for you and your university education eh Soldier? Who else could have figured it out but you.
I haven't gone away. I'm still here I've just been having something to eat.
I'm going to bed now but am determined to find my original Q thread before I fall asleep.
arista
18-09-2023, 12:39 AM
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arista
18-09-2023, 12:43 AM
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arista
18-09-2023, 12:44 AM
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arista
18-09-2023, 12:50 AM
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arista
18-09-2023, 12:56 AM
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user104658
18-09-2023, 01:13 AM
There's me. A working class lad from East Yorkshire being a part of Q and I didn't even know it. Thank God for you and your university education eh Soldier? Who else could have figured it out but you.
Who else? Anyone who knows anything about conspiracy/persecution theories, where they originate and how they spread.
I haven't gone away. I'm still here I've just been having something to eat.
I'm going to bed now but am determined to find my original Q thread before I fall asleep.
I linked to it Alf. It was called "Q", in Nov 2020. It's right there. I posted the link.
You were right with your first instincts about it and should have stuck with them.
arista
18-09-2023, 05:34 AM
More women
have gone to the Times paper
Ch4 have now remove all content
online from him
arista
18-09-2023, 07:56 AM
https://video.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2023/09/18/1317994875014693989/964x580_JPG-SINGLE_1317994875014693989.jpg
arista
18-09-2023, 08:00 AM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/09/18/06/75528727-12529661-image-a-5_1695016645262.jpg
user104658
18-09-2023, 08:50 AM
More women
have gone to the Times paper
There will be dozens.
Cherie
18-09-2023, 08:53 AM
There will be dozens.
100s
user104658
18-09-2023, 09:33 AM
100s
I was thinking a realistic figure of maybe 10% of women who will have had a notably bad experience with him, but then... if the tales of his exploits are true and he genuinely did sleep with 1000+ people... I guess that is getting into the hundreds :umm2:.
thesheriff443
18-09-2023, 09:44 AM
Just another media circus
user104658
18-09-2023, 09:48 AM
Just another media circus
1) Yes, but
2) That doesn't mean that it doesn't have truth to it.
thesheriff443
18-09-2023, 09:52 AM
1) Yes, but
2) That doesn't mean that it doesn't have truth to it.
The truth is worth nothing these days.
user104658
18-09-2023, 09:53 AM
The truth is worth nothing these days.
That's not true, I was going to vote him Most Missed Member but Kate says it's not allowed.
Niamh.
18-09-2023, 09:53 AM
1) Yes, but
2) That doesn't mean that it doesn't have truth to it.
Yeah, Russell has certainly turned into a calmer person these days, since he's sober, older, married, has kids etc but as much as I liked him back then as a presenter on big mouth etc it's easy to believe that he could have done that stuff, he was very blatantly sexual(not sure if that's the right wording for what I'm trying to say but you get the gist)on screen so you can imagine he was probably worse behind closed doors
thesheriff443
18-09-2023, 09:55 AM
That's not true, I was going to vote him Most Missed Member but Kate says it's not allowed.
Not remotely funny
thesheriff443
18-09-2023, 09:57 AM
Yeah, Russell has certainly turned into a calmer person these days, since he's sober, older, married, has kids etc but as much as I liked him back then as a presenter on big mouth etc it's easy to believe that he could have done that stuff, he was very blatantly sexual(not sure if that's the right wording for what I'm trying to say but you get the gist)on screen so you can imagine he was probably worse behind closed doors
He replaced a drug addiction with a sex addiction
Niamh.
18-09-2023, 09:57 AM
He replaced a drug addiction with a sex addiction
Yeah seems so
arista
18-09-2023, 10:02 AM
Just another media circus
For Sure
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6Q9AEuXsAABoMr?format=jpg&name=900x900
user104658
18-09-2023, 10:07 AM
Yeah, Russell has certainly turned into a calmer person these days, since he's sober, older, married, has kids etc but as much as I liked him back then as a presenter on big mouth etc it's easy to believe that he could have done that stuff, he was very blatantly sexual(not sure if that's the right wording for what I'm trying to say but you get the gist)on screen so you can imagine he was probably worse behind closed doors
My genuine thoughts are that he was having so much sex, and (IMO) not-quite-so-sober as he claims (I think he was obviously off heroin, but still doing **** like coke and methamphetamines in the 2000's) combined with it being "pre-MeToo" when the "Oh it's just kinky rough sex" excuses still had legs ... that he probably just straight up doesn't remember half of what he did.
But for one that's not an excuse, and for two I don't believe for a second that he doesn't know and remember fine well a lot of it crossed the line in terms of consent. That he wouldn't do it these days really isn't relevant. And if he was truly a better man now, he'd be apologising for his past behaviour, not trying to make out that it's all lies "because Big Pharma!" and other associated nonsense. He's not changed that much. He might not be assaulting people any more, but it's all still mind games and manipulation.
Niamh.
18-09-2023, 10:11 AM
My genuine thoughts are that he was having so much sex, and (IMO) not-quite-so-sober as he claims (I think he was obviously off heroin, but still doing **** like coke and methamphetamines in the 2000's) combined with it being "pre-MeToo" when the "Oh it's just kinky rough sex" excuses still had legs ... that he probably just straight up doesn't remember half of what he did.
But for one that's not an excuse, and for two I don't believe for a second that he doesn't know and remember fine well a lot of it crossed the line in terms of consent. That he wouldn't do it these days really isn't relevant. And if he was truly a better man now, he'd be apologising for his past behaviour, not trying to make out that it's all lies "because Big Pharma!" and other associated nonsense. He's not changed that much. He might not be assaulting people any more, but it's all still mind games and manipulation.
Yeah I agree with that. I need to actually watch the show though to get my head around the actual story/accusations properly though
user104658
18-09-2023, 10:18 AM
Yeah I agree with that. I need to actually watch the show though to get my head around the actual story/accusations properly though
The cliffnotes for most of it is that it's not really about him assaulting people randomly/who had no interest, it's mostly him being coercive/manipulative with people who were "at first" with him by consent, but not stopping when they said no, pinning them down and carrying on. They talk about his "eyes glazing over" and him being out of control once sexual contact started.
All of which makes it 100% believable even in terms of his own description of what he was like at the time. Instinct-driven sexual predator who stopped giving a **** about consent once he was in a sex haze. They consented to be there, the rest was irrelevant.
user104658
18-09-2023, 10:20 AM
Oh and a whole several-month relationship with a 16 year old girl, who was there consensually but the whole thing is quite clear grooming. Honestly that was some of the worst of the accusations for me - and it was 99% totally "technically legal". But absolutely, shockingly gross.
Niamh.
18-09-2023, 10:21 AM
The cliffnotes for most of it is that it's not really about him assaulting people randomly/who had no interest, it's mostly him being coercive/manipulative with people who were "at first" with him by consent, but not stopping when they said no, pinning them down and carrying on. They talk about his "eyes glazing over" and him being out of control once sexual contact started.
All of which makes it 100% believable even in terms of his own description of what he was like at the time. Instinct-driven sexual predator who stopped giving a **** about consent once he was in a sex haze. They consented to be there, the rest was irrelevant.
Right, gross but sounds believable as well.
Niamh.
18-09-2023, 10:22 AM
Oh and a whole several-month relationship with a 16 year old girl, who was there consensually but the whole thing is quite clear grooming. Honestly that was some of the worst of the accusations for me - and it was 99% totally "technically legal". But absolutely, shockingly gross.
It would be illegal here, 17 in Ireland. What age was he when that happened?
thesheriff443
18-09-2023, 10:26 AM
It would be illegal here, 17 in Ireland. What age was he when that happened?
31
Niamh.
18-09-2023, 10:31 AM
31
Yeah that's bad
I'm in real danger of joining the conspiracy theorists but I can't help but feel this isn't the real story that a newspaper has been investigating with all the other **** that's been going on in the world
Even at the time these allegations refer to, everyone knew exactly the type of person Brand was. I just don't see it as news, and unless the women have actionable evidence that can be given to the police, the whole thing is pointless
user104658
18-09-2023, 10:52 AM
I'm in real danger of joining the conspiracy theorists but I can't help but feel this isn't the real story that a newspaper has been investigating with all the other **** that's been going on in the world
Even at the time these allegations refer to, everyone knew exactly the type of person Brand was. I just don't see it as news, and unless the women have actionable evidence that can be given to the police, the whole thing is pointless
Again though both can be true - it's odd that it's "such big news" (and it is odd - it's hardly shocking, if someone had said "which big UK comedian do you think might have been a sexual predator" before any of it came out, he'd have been most people's first guess).
No matter how sus the seemingly sudden FOCUS of it is, it doesn't mean that the facts of the incidents themselves aren't true, it doesn't make it a "hit job" on an innocent man, and it doesn't lessen the severity of them either.
So while I think "Why NOW?" is a valid enough question to ask, I think it's an entirely separate question.
Crimson Dynamo
18-09-2023, 10:55 AM
I'm in real danger of joining the conspiracy theorists but I can't help but feel this isn't the real story that a newspaper has been investigating with all the other **** that's been going on in the world
Even at the time these allegations refer to, everyone knew exactly the type of person Brand was. I just don't see it as news, and unless the women have actionable evidence that can be given to the police, the whole thing is pointless
and i dont think the general public care
"SHOCK HORROR Brand is a shagger and treated women poorly in the past that were attracted to him like flies around sh1t when he was famous"
Gen public - "yeah we all knew m8"
Yes but now its bad if we view it through todays optics
Gen public "sigh - we know its a hit piece relic MSM"
Liam-
18-09-2023, 10:56 AM
Where’s the ‘this has the possibility of being the next Saville’ declaration bots? Or do you save that exclusively for the gay men that hit the headlines?
There’s evidence of him apologising for forcing himself on somebody after they told him no, but it’s not that big of a deal?
Saville hid in plain sight, he pretended to be a do gooder while molesting children. Brand just isn't the same story
Liam-
18-09-2023, 11:13 AM
Right, so because everyone knew his reputation as a shagger, it’s not important or newsworthy that there are actual credible rape allegations against him?
Cherie
18-09-2023, 11:16 AM
Think BOTS might be right about the BBC being the actual target
"Alice" told BBC Radio 4's Woman's Hour the alleged abusive relationship left her feeling "cheap and dirtied".
She went on to say Brand's denial of the accusations was "insulting".
"It is laughable that he would even imply that it's a mainstream media conspiracy. He's not outside of mainstream media," she said.
She said she would like to know why more was not done by the corporation at the time of their relationship in 2006, saying: "He had a very well-known record of doing things that were inappropriate on the air, he had inappropriate conversations."
She went to on say does not think Brand was being held to the same standards as other BBC presenters or newsreaders, adding: "There were exceptions and allowances made for him and we need to ask ourselves why."
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/russell-brand-accuser-claims-bbc-car-took-her-from-school-to-star-s-house-when-she-was-16/ar-AA1gSICn?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=3443281317a6411dac0444aa0e2525ec&ei=10
Cherie
18-09-2023, 11:18 AM
Right, so because everyone knew his reputation as a shagger, it’s not important or newsworthy that there are actual credible rape allegations against him?
Think the difference is he didn't present himself a a clean cut, housewifes choice type like Schofe and Huw, no one is shocked to hear he was a sex pest and predator
Niamh.
18-09-2023, 11:19 AM
Think BOTS might be right about the BBC being the actual target
"Alice" told BBC Radio 4's Woman's Hour the alleged abusive relationship left her feeling "cheap and dirtied".
She went on to say Brand's denial of the accusations was "insulting".
"It is laughable that he would even imply that it's a mainstream media conspiracy. He's not outside of mainstream media," she said.
She said she would like to know why more was not done by the corporation at the time of their relationship in 2006, saying: "He had a very well-known record of doing things that were inappropriate on the air, he had inappropriate conversations."
She went to on say does not think Brand was being held to the same standards as other BBC presenters or newsreaders, adding: "There were exceptions and allowances made for him and we need to ask ourselves why."
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/russell-brand-accuser-claims-bbc-car-took-her-from-school-to-star-s-house-when-she-was-16/ar-AA1gSICn?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=3443281317a6411dac0444aa0e2525ec&ei=10
Well we know why don't we?, because he was a money maker for them at that time, same as why they covered for other big names back then (and probably still now)
Cherie
18-09-2023, 11:42 AM
Well we know why don't we?, because he was a money maker for them at that time, same as why they covered for other big names back then (and probably still now)
Yep all about the big bucks rolling in,but if you step out of line, somewhere along the line there will be consequences
Niamh.
18-09-2023, 11:59 AM
Yep all about the big bucks rolling in,but if you step out of line, somewhere along the line there will be consequences
https://metro.co.uk/2023/09/17/dannii-minogue-russell-brand-resurfaced-interview-predator-19512496/
arista
18-09-2023, 02:20 PM
The Met Police
are now looking into Brand while at Ch4 & BBC
Interesting
https://www.ohmymag.co.uk/news/russell-brand-and-dan-woottons-scandals-already-have-more-similarities-than-youd-expect_art19164.html
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user104658
18-09-2023, 03:23 PM
Interesting
https://www.ohmymag.co.uk/news/russell-brand-and-dan-woottons-scandals-already-have-more-similarities-than-youd-expect_art19164.html
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It's all directly out of the "Trump press playbook"; any negative report is agenda-driven lies. "Fake News!" as he's always termed it. It's worked extremely well for Trump so it's entirely unsurprising that others have started using the same tactic. Andrew Tate of course being another prime example. And you can guarantee that if anything comes out about people like Jordan Peterson, Elon Musk, etc. it'll be the same story.
Doesn't have to be anything to do with sexual misconduct it can be literally anything, from fraud to drink driving, they'll rewrite history and claim a set-up. And certain people will swallow the entire fishing rod.
arista
18-09-2023, 03:33 PM
Police now looking into the 2003
R. Brand Sex Assault
after such a public story, the police have no choice but to look into it. It doesnt mean anything will come from it
arista
18-09-2023, 03:38 PM
[Met Police confirms report of alleged
sexual assault from 2003
We've just received an update from
London's Metropolitan Police.
A spokesperson for the Met said: “We are aware of
reporting by The Sunday Times and Channel 4's Dispatches
about allegations of sexual offences.
“On Sunday, 17 September, the Met received
a report of a sexual assault which was alleged
to have taken place in Soho in central
London in 2003.
Officers are in contact with the woman
and will be providing her with support.]
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-66835997
arista
18-09-2023, 03:55 PM
Windsor Royal Theatre
has stopped Brands Gig
Due tomorrow.
arista
18-09-2023, 04:04 PM
BBC admits supplying a private Car
to pick her (16 year old Alice)
up from school and her home
from R.Brand.
He kept Alice more secret
Cherie
18-09-2023, 04:15 PM
BBC admits supplying a private Car
to pick her (16 year old Alice)
up from school and her home
from R.Brand.
He kept Alice more secret
Lord above
Crimson Dynamo
18-09-2023, 04:21 PM
Good old BBC
:skull:
Paid for by the license scam, picking up kids from school so their highly paid "stars" can shag them. Literally, everyone just needs to stop paying it, they'll have no choice but to scrap it then. Remember, THEY have to prove you're watching TV, so as long as they don't see you actually watching live TV there isn't a damn thing they can do about it.
Crimson Dynamo
18-09-2023, 04:33 PM
Note the documentary was called in plain sight - same as the famous book on Saville and many of the relic MSM desperately trying to link Brand to Saville even tho there is no link save the "media" all promoting Brand for profit. The hit job continues...
arista
18-09-2023, 04:36 PM
https://video.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2023/09/18/1646647512173069392/964x580_JPG-SINGLE_1646647512173069392.jpg
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12530635/Russell-Brand-comedy-MeToo-moment-secret-industry-female-WhatsApp-group-showbusiness.html
Crimson Dynamo
18-09-2023, 04:40 PM
Brand has added 10,000 subscribers per day to his Youtube channel since Friday
(Source Social Blade)
arista
18-09-2023, 04:41 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/09/18/11/75536937-12530635-Katherine_Ryan_also_appeared_alongside_Brand_on_a_ 2018_episode_o-a-50_1695032732376.jpg
[Katherine Ryan appeared with Brand on an episode of
Comedy Central TV show Roast Battle]
A year ago or so.
arista
18-09-2023, 04:42 PM
Brand has added 10,000 subscribers per day to his Youtube channel since Friday
(Source Social Blade)
Sure
but will YouTube Ban him?
Crimson Dynamo
18-09-2023, 04:52 PM
Sure
but will YouTube Ban him?
based on allegations in a newspaper?
he is already on Rumble too and they deffo will not
arista
18-09-2023, 05:00 PM
based on allegations in a newspaper?
he is already on Rumble too and they deffo will not
Police looking into his 2003
Sex Assault
Crimson Dynamo
18-09-2023, 05:03 PM
Police looking into his 2003
Sex Assault
Id imagine that most if not all successful Rape prosecutions rely on forensic evidence so good luck with that being anything other than a PR statement
user104658
18-09-2023, 05:26 PM
Id imagine that most if not all successful Rape prosecutions rely on forensic evidence so good luck with that being anything other than a PR statement
LT: "Luckily it's far too late for them to have any forensic evidence so he'll get away with it, wouldn't want a counter-culture bro being brought down by something so frivolous as multiple accusations of sexual assault and rape."
White knight of rapists, nonces, sex traffickers and neglectful parents* across the globe. What a hero.
Crimson Dynamo
18-09-2023, 05:29 PM
LT: "Luckily it's far too late for them to have any forensic evidence so he'll get away with it, wouldn't want a counter-culture bro being brought down by something so frivolous as multiple accusations of sexual assault and rape."
White knight of rapists, nonces, sex traffickers and neglectful parents* across the globe. What a hero.
keep drinking the relic MSM Kool Aid TS
user104658
18-09-2023, 05:32 PM
keep drinking the relic MSM Kool Aid TS
Utterly pathetic little boy living in a Truther fantasy land because he made his own life too uncomfortable to live like a real adult. ****ing desperately sad stuff.
arista
18-09-2023, 05:33 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/09/18/15/75559261-12531451-image-a-10_1695047541430.jpg
Back in 2017
arista
18-09-2023, 05:33 PM
https://twitter.com/TheNewsAgents/status/1703811116898635814
arista
18-09-2023, 05:36 PM
https://twitter.com/Tessadunlop/status/1703747514728333410
Crimson Dynamo
18-09-2023, 06:26 PM
Utterly pathetic little boy living in a Truther fantasy land because he made his own life too uncomfortable to live like a real adult. ****ing desperately sad stuff.
he makes more money in a month from excellent well worded and researched content than you make in 2 years
i dont think you are winning
:joker:
arista
18-09-2023, 06:26 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/09/18/18/75565107-0-image-m-2_1695058779470.jpg
The Theatre Royal in Windsor,
which says it will be offering refunds to ticket holders.
R. Brand was due to perform in Windsor
Crimson Dynamo
18-09-2023, 06:29 PM
https://twitter.com/TheNewsAgents/status/1703811116898635814
Yes Matlis really showed her worth as a "journalist" recently with Nigel and Coutts
:umm2:
absolute useless hard-left hack
user104658
18-09-2023, 09:16 PM
he makes more money in a month from excellent well worded and researched content than you make in 2 years
i dont think you are winning
:joker:
I wasn't talking about Brand.
Crimson Dynamo
18-09-2023, 09:23 PM
1703878739879137597?s=20
Mystic Mock
18-09-2023, 09:30 PM
That's not true, I was going to vote him Most Missed Member but Kate says it's not allowed.
:joker:
Mystic Mock
18-09-2023, 09:36 PM
Where’s the ‘this has the possibility of being the next Saville’ declaration bots? Or do you save that exclusively for the gay men that hit the headlines?
There’s evidence of him apologising for forcing himself on somebody after they told him no, but it’s not that big of a deal?
Fair point.
Although in retrospect I think Ian Watkins from Lostprophets may be the closest to Saville in terms of how evil and sick his actions were.
Mystic Mock
18-09-2023, 09:38 PM
Saville hid in plain sight, he pretended to be a do gooder while molesting children. Brand just isn't the same story
Brand is getting a lot of allegations like Saville though tbf.
Mystic Mock
18-09-2023, 09:53 PM
he makes more money in a month from excellent well worded and researched content than you make in 2 years
i dont think you are winning
:joker:
All of that can be true and him still end up being an unlikable criminal.
user104658
18-09-2023, 10:12 PM
All of that can be true and him still end up being an unlikable criminal.
Indeed Mock, and (had I been talking about Brand at all) I would have commented that having "not a rapist" in anyone's column is an automatic win, no matter how much money the opposition is grifting from gullible basement-dwellers.
Some people apparently disagree and put YouTube income ahead of "not doing sex crimes" when toting up the scores. Says more about them than anyone else, I would think. "Rape schmape, he makes good money!". :facepalm:
Mystic Mock
18-09-2023, 10:19 PM
Indeed Mock, and (had I been talking about Brand at all) I would have commented that having "not a rapist" in anyone's column is an automatic win, no matter how much money the opposition is grifting from gullible basement-dwellers.
Some people apparently disagree and put YouTube income ahead of "not doing sex crimes" when toting up the scores. Says more about them than anyone else, I would think. "Rape schmape, he makes good money!". :facepalm:
I do wonder why Showbiz appears to have a disproportionate amount of sex offenders compared to any other industry? Even Priests and Teachers seem to get less.
user104658
18-09-2023, 10:53 PM
I do wonder why Showbiz appears to have a disproportionate amount of sex offenders compared to any other industry? Even Priests and Teachers seem to get less.
It inherently attracts narcissists. That's not to say that everyone in showbiz is one of course - but a higher proportion than probably any other area.
Blimey where is this all gonna end ?
Twitter is alive with people drawing links to Noel Fielding and even Richard Richard Ayoade !
These three are/were amongst my favourite 5 or 6 comedians !!
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Blimey where is this all gonna end ?
Twitter is alive with people drawing links to Noel Fielding and even Richard Richard Ayoade !
These three are/were amongst my favourite 5 or 6 comedians !!
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I think we all need a bit of a reality check tbh. Popular, rich, successful celebs shagging everything that moves isn't something new. He's obviously gone way too far, but why are some people so shocked? It's the rockstar lifestyle. We seem to be forgetting that 99% of the women he shagged probably threw themselves at him.
Mystic Mock
19-09-2023, 02:35 AM
It inherently attracts narcissists. That's not to say that everyone in showbiz is one of course - but a higher proportion than probably any other area.
You make a good point tbf, maybe that's where the trouble is stemming from for the Showbiz world.
Mystic Mock
19-09-2023, 02:48 AM
Blimey where is this all gonna end ?
Twitter is alive with people drawing links to Noel Fielding and even Richard Richard Ayoade !
These three are/were amongst my favourite 5 or 6 comedians !!
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This is probably going to be a controversial post for a lot of people, but I think that it needs to be pointed out anyway.
Anyone that people have liked in the Celeb world because they had a talent at something that you personally liked, doesn't mean that you can't still like them at that same thing if it turns out that they've committed heinous crimes.
I know that you're not directly saying that Zizu, but I do believe it's best to try to separate the art from the artist in cases like this, because unfortunately a lot of the really talented people of this world aren't necessarily the most likable.
On a much smaller scale than Russell Brand, look at James Arthur, one of the best male vocalists to come off TXF imo, yet he has a very fragile ego and a very thin skin, there I say it you could call him a Snowflake he is that fragile.
But my point being that I personally still think that he is a very talented vocalist, even if some of his songs personally don't do it for me.
Tangent aside, Russell Brand is like anyone, he has his good points and his bad points, unfortunately his bad points are outweighing his good points, but his good points were that imo (and I'm assuming that you agree with me Zizu) is that he is a funny man, and I don't think that it can be taken away from him.
And Twitter should be careful with speculating people into heinous crimes, have they not learned from the Huw Edwards situation where they were accusing Gary Lineker & Rylan of being Paedophiles? They shouldn't be openly accusing people without any evidence.
i disagree Mock, for example, i haven't watched a Woody Allen film since stuff came out about him. I simply don't want to. The thing is, there are plenty entertainers around to choose from. I don't have to listen to Gary Glitter or Rolf Harris to get enjoyment out of life and I certainly don't want to contribute to a criminals royalty cheques and thats what you are doing when you watch these people on the TV or whatever
arista
19-09-2023, 04:48 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/F188/production/_131123816_mirror-nc.png.webp
arista
19-09-2023, 04:49 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/2E38/production/_131123811_metro-nc.png.webp
arista
19-09-2023, 04:51 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/9BFC/production/_131123993_times-nc.png.webp
arista
19-09-2023, 04:51 AM
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arista
19-09-2023, 04:53 AM
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arista
19-09-2023, 04:54 AM
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arista
19-09-2023, 06:04 AM
Remix Artist Coldwater Steve
https://twitter.com/coldwarsteve/status/1703695179201294846?s=51&t=TEfd6ZCZRSCJE7JlCxDb6A
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6S9u7uW8AAiocq?format=jpg&name=900x900
arista
19-09-2023, 06:06 AM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/09/19/02/75578389-0-image-m-11_1695086571237.jpg
Mystic Mock
19-09-2023, 06:08 AM
i disagree Mock, for example, i haven't watched a Woody Allen film since stuff came out about him. I simply don't want to. The thing is, there are plenty entertainers around to choose from. I don't have to listen to Gary Glitter or Rolf Harris to get enjoyment out of life and I certainly don't want to contribute to a criminals royalty cheques and thats what you are doing when you watch these people on the TV or whatever
I think these cases are when Piracy is an option imo.
But I do get that not everyone wants to do that tbf.
Mystic Mock
19-09-2023, 06:11 AM
Remix Artist Coldwater Steve
https://twitter.com/coldwarsteve/status/1703695179201294846?s=51&t=TEfd6ZCZRSCJE7JlCxDb6A
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6S9u7uW8AAiocq?format=jpg&name=900x900
Where's Kanye West in a Ninja outfit when you need him?:laugh:
Oliver_W
19-09-2023, 06:35 AM
Where’s the ‘this has the possibility of being the next Saville’ declaration bots? Or do you save that exclusively for the gay men that hit the headlines?
There’s evidence of him apologising for forcing himself on somebody after they told him no, but it’s not that big of a deal?
I think Brand is closer to "another Saville" than Schofield tbh.
Schofe was just ("just") a letch who groomed a child until he was legally old enough to sleep with, there wasn't the same level of complicity and cover-up that Brand was apparently given.
arista
19-09-2023, 06:38 AM
LT Wake UP.
YouTube
has suspended Russell Brands YouTube
Money Making Account
Cherie
19-09-2023, 06:41 AM
I think we all need a bit of a reality check tbh. Popular, rich, successful celebs shagging everything that moves isn't something new. He's obviously gone way too far, but why are some people so shocked? It's the rockstar lifestyle. We seem to be forgetting that 99% of the women he shagged probably threw themselves at him.
While that may be true, it still does not justify alleged rape or sexual assault :shrug:
and a 31 year old man sending a car to pick up a child from school is well dodgy, okay she was 'legal' but just for all he knew she could have been younger than 16
AnnieK
19-09-2023, 06:42 AM
I think we all need a bit of a reality check tbh. Popular, rich, successful celebs shagging everything that moves isn't something new. He's obviously gone way too far, but why are some people so shocked? It's the rockstar lifestyle. We seem to be forgetting that 99% of the women he shagged probably threw themselves at him.
Even if that were true, The 1% who didn't should just shut up should they? Because he'd gone too far? Nope.....they should have shouted then but they should still be heard now. Any nonconsensual act is nonconsenual, I don't care who you are or what rockstar lifestyle you lead, you don't get to force someone.
Having said all that, I can understand why they didn't report it. I've spoke about this before but having sat through a rape trial with a close family member, from minutes after it was reported to the end of the trial, the way the victims are treated is horrific and I would never recommend anyone from even bothering
arista
19-09-2023, 06:50 AM
YouTube suspends the monetisation of Russell Brand's
channel for 'violating responsibility policy'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12534431/YouTube-stops-Russell-Brand-making-money-channel-rape-allegations.html
His books have also been Suspended
YouTube suspends the monetisation of Russell Brand's
channel for 'violating responsibility policy'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12534431/YouTube-stops-Russell-Brand-making-money-channel-rape-allegations.html
His books have also been Suspendedmission accomplished.
Crimson Dynamo
19-09-2023, 07:26 AM
mission accomplished.
yep, that was the aim
Cherie
19-09-2023, 08:10 AM
mission accomplished.
yep, that was the aim
He can still post on Youtube? he just cant accept money for it
If he is innocent, he can take these ladies to court
Crimson Dynamo
19-09-2023, 08:28 AM
LT Wake UP.
YouTube
has suspended Russell Brands YouTube
Money Making Account
trial by media
Russell Brand is innocent
As is every citizen in the UK, until proven guilty by a court of law
Crimson Dynamo
19-09-2023, 08:43 AM
The screen shots of alleged texts from Brand etc from the C4 "documentary" all doctored and cut and shut. People just accept they are legit...:skull:
nm7RwLWBTcw
Oliver_W
19-09-2023, 08:47 AM
I'm not watching nearly an hour of that, what's the evidence the texts were doctored?
Crimson Dynamo
19-09-2023, 09:00 AM
I'm not watching nearly an hour of that, what's the evidence the texts were doctored?
they cover that in first 5 mins
Oliver_W
19-09-2023, 09:01 AM
they cover that in first 5 mins
Can I have a tl;dr ?
Niamh.
19-09-2023, 09:29 AM
The good new is if this goes to the Police (which I think it has?) they will discount any doctored messages
Crimson Dynamo
19-09-2023, 09:30 AM
Can I have a tl;dr ?
missing time stamps, text size discrepancies within single text, some words groups fuzzy when you blow it up, some text blocks full of noise (not bleed over) all consistent with cutting and pasting partial messages to make a single
Messages date stamped 2012 with sharing app icons at bottom with apps not launched till 2014 (Apple pay for eg)
Use of USA spellings in the messages used when he never ever uses them in any other platform like Twitter
that type of thing
Oliver_W
19-09-2023, 09:34 AM
missing time stamps, text size discrepancies within single text, some words groups fuzzy when you blow it up, some text blocks full of noise (not bleed over) all consistent with cutting and pasting partial messages to make a single
Messages date stamped 2012 with sharing app icons at bottom with apps not launched till 2014 (Apple pay for eg)
Use of USA spellings in the messages used when he never ever uses them in any other platform like Twitter
that type of thing
Hmm.
With some of that I could assume that maybe the contents of the texts were copied over for consistency or visibility, or something like that.
But your description of it does sound a bit suss.
(Not seen the show or the video)
Crimson Dynamo
19-09-2023, 09:38 AM
Hmm.
With some of that I could assume that maybe the contents of the texts were copied over for consistency or visibility, or something like that.
But your description of it does sound a bit suss.
(Not seen the show or the video)
Its the type of stuff a decent Lawyer would pick apart in court
Like C4 have said they have asked the production company who C4 bought the Brand shows from to investigate him - now if they have been working on this for 4 years (highly unlikely) surely that would have been the first thing to do, not the last etc
user104658
19-09-2023, 09:41 AM
GOOD LORD not LT and the other conspiracy nuts thinking that when documentaries show emails and text messages, they show screenshots of the ACTUAL emails and text messages! :facepalm: :facepalm: you couldn't make it up. Someone made an hour long video about this? An hour long deconstructing video about "fake texts with discrepancies" because a TV documentary took the content of the texts and made visual representations of the content. And you've got flatskulls sat at home going "Oi that doesn't look like a real message :oh:"
It would be so funny if it wasn't becoming so rapidly depressing.
user104658
19-09-2023, 09:42 AM
Its the type of stuff a decent Lawyer would pick apart in court
Don't worry LT the lawyers and courts will have access to the original text messages and not the graphics made for TV. I swear you actually used to be smarter than this, are these tinfoil hat videos rotting your brain?
Crimson Dynamo
19-09-2023, 09:44 AM
GOOD LORD not LT and the other conspiracy nuts thinking that when documentaries show emails and text messages, they show screenshots of the ACTUAL emails and text messages! :facepalm: :facepalm: you couldn't make it up. Someone made an hour long video about this? An hour long deconstructing video about "fake texts with discrepancies" because a TV documentary took the content of the texts and made visual representations of the content. And you've got flatskulls sat at home going "Oi that doesn't look like a real message :oh:"
It would be so funny if it wasn't becoming so rapidly depressing.
If they have cut and pasted different messages together and presented them as a real exchange then that should be stated. Timestamps should not be omitted and apps that did not exist in timestamped messaged should not appear or an explanation should be given
Its at the very best incredibly shoddy
user104658
19-09-2023, 09:44 AM
maybe the contents of the texts were copied over for consistency or visibility
Perhaps it could be that, like in the standard practice in every other documentary ever made. Maybe there is a small possibility.
Oliver_W
19-09-2023, 09:46 AM
Perhaps it could be that, like in the standard practice in every other documentary ever made. Maybe there is a small possibility.
Maybe :joker: possibly!!
It sounds like they just did a crappy of it tbh.
Crimson Dynamo
19-09-2023, 09:46 AM
one of the comments:
@tanyaroberson9629
7 hours ago
I used to be a graphic designer. If that image came out of a news paper— it
really may have been that the graphic designer had to fit it onto one page, in a
single column, so edited it so it would fit the layout better. So they may have
been given that phone message in three separate screen captures and then
edited it together to look like one screen capture to fit into the layout better. (if
that's the case, bad call on the graphic designers and editors since its evidence
in a criminal case- if it was Hollywood gossip wouldn't matter so much)
Oliver_W
19-09-2023, 09:48 AM
They'd have been better off just putting the text in generic boxes tbh
user104658
19-09-2023, 09:55 AM
one of the comments:
@tanyaroberson9629
7 hours ago
I used to be a graphic designer. If that image came out of a news paper— it
really may have been that the graphic designer had to fit it onto one page, in a
single column, so edited it so it would fit the layout better. So they may have
been given that phone message in three separate screen captures and then
edited it together to look like one screen capture to fit into the layout better. (if
that's the case, bad call on the graphic designers and editors since its evidence
in a criminal case- if it was Hollywood gossip wouldn't matter so much)
It's not "evidence in a criminal case" because the investigators and courts will use the actual original messages, and not the graphics made for a Channel 4 documentary? This wasn't a criminal investigation because - as far as I know, at least (I know times move fast and it can be hard to keep up so I might be wrong) - Channel 4 journalists are not actually law enforcement officers or prosecutors.
The documentary about Russell Brand is not going to be in itself used in court against Russell Brand. Surely, quite obviously.
Here's not thing that gets me LT, and really maybe you can explain if you think it seems like a reasonably co-existing belief:
1) You believe that Brand, a noted sex addict, substance abuser, and person who has clearly in his past led a quite manic and out of control lifestyle is being falsely accused of sexual misdeeds by a large conspiracy of global elites and mega-corporations worth billions of dollars, who covertly pay people off to lie and scheme in order to take down youtubers who say things they don't like, BUT AT THE SAME TIME...
2) They're incompetent and can't research/consult counterfeiting experts to make convincing fake text messages that most 16 year olds could make with a dodgy downloaded copy of Photoshop 7 from 2002.
... ... you are arguing that both of the things above are true. I can only say again - the mental gymnastics required to believe that shadowy secret organisations are out to get people and successfully bribe/silence hundreds of individuals to get their way, but can't match up the fonts on a text message, is one of the most bizarre fantasies yet.
Niamh.
19-09-2023, 09:57 AM
It's not "evidence in a criminal case" because the investigators and courts will use the actual original messages, and not the graphics made for a Channel 4 documentary? This wasn't a criminal investigation because - as far as I know, at least (I know times move fast and it can be hard to keep up so I might be wrong) - Channel 4 journalists are not actually law enforcement officers or prosecutors.
The documentary about Russell Brand is not going to be in itself used in court against Russell Brand. Surely, quite obviously.
Here's not thing that gets me LT, and really maybe you can explain if you think it seems like a reasonably co-existing belief:
1) You believe that Brand, a noted sex addict, substance abuser, and person who has clearly in his past led a quite manic and out of control lifestyle is being falsely accused of sexual misdeeds by a large conspiracy of global elites and mega-corporations worth billions of dollars, who covertly pay people off to lie and scheme in order to take down youtubers who say things they don't like, BUT AT THE SAME TIME...
2) They're incompetent and can't research/consult counterfeiting experts to make convincing fake text messages that most 16 year olds could make with a dodgy downloaded copy of Photoshop 7 from 2002.
... ... you are arguing that both of the things above are true. I can only say again - the mental gymnastics required to believe that shadowy secret organisations are out to get people and successfully bribe/silence hundreds of individuals to get their way, but can't match up the fonts on a text message, is one of the most bizarre fantasies yet.
That's so true :laugh:
Crimson Dynamo
19-09-2023, 10:01 AM
They'd have been better off just putting the text in generic boxes tbh
Lawyers will be all over the metadata
One would hope that C4 had all this checked prior but then all they are is a outdated sh1t tv channel...
user104658
19-09-2023, 10:06 AM
Lawyers will be all over the metadata
Only if they can get around the net 6.0 encrypted traps and 3rd generation firewalls by brute forcing the randomly generated key generator on the subnet, which I HIGHLY doubt.
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Crimson Dynamo
19-09-2023, 10:14 AM
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user104658
19-09-2023, 10:17 AM
Ha ha ha Russell Brand will be spitting feathers at the idea of being associated with Thatcher. Love it.
Cherie
19-09-2023, 10:31 AM
That American lady went to rape crisis centre …they will have some evidence in their archives?
If he just wants to speak his truth then he is able to do that…let’s see how much impact not being paid has in how much content he puts out…pun intended
arista
19-09-2023, 10:36 AM
Thatcher
no you tube then
can not be compared stinking Brand
Crimson Dynamo
19-09-2023, 10:38 AM
Ha ha ha Russell Brand will be spitting feathers at the idea of being associated with Thatcher. Love it.
:nono:
he is now right-wing, keep up SB
https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/79/590x/secondary/Brand-was-photographed-for-a-picture-with-Donald-Trump-Jr-and-his-wife-back-in-March-4963463.webp?r=1694877465507
user104658
19-09-2023, 10:42 AM
:nono:
he is now right-wing, keep up SB
https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/79/590x/secondary/Brand-was-photographed-for-a-picture-with-Donald-Trump-Jr-and-his-wife-back-in-March-4963463.webp?r=1694877465507
He's a populist, a narcissist and an attention seeker so he'll go wherever that lies ... ... but at his core, he's a Marxist ex-junkie who will find the association with the alt-right quite hard to swallow. He'll still do it for the ££ and for eyes on himself, of course.
Crimson Dynamo
19-09-2023, 10:57 AM
It has now officially all gone wrong for stand-up’s sex god. Ahead of Saturday
night’s Channel 4 documentary about Russell Brand, and the newspaper
disclosures in the Sunday Times, there was speculation that the witnesses could
be opportunistic attention-seekers. The first complainant demolished that idea.
On the same day as her alleged encounter with Brand, she visited a rape crisis
centre, according to medical records, and accused him of wrongdoing. If the
case reaches court, her testimony could be hard for Brand – who denies the
allegations against him and has said his relationships have all been consensual
– to explain.
One oddity of the Dispatches documentary was the identity of the chief
accuser: Brand himself. We saw him making gross statements in public that
sounded like throwaway satire. On TV, he told a guest, ‘don’t be afraid of your
own sexuality. Do be a bit afraid of mine though.’ He told an American chat-
show host: ‘You don’t want to be around when the laughter stops.’
Brand was never censured for this banter. His fans laughed along. Why would
a handsome, intelligent, rich and amusing superstar need to prey on women?
His light-hearted attitude to rough sex had to be a joke, right? A spot of
laddish exaggeration to titillate the gallery. He was excused because his
audience regarded themselves as cynical, worldly sophisticates. A BBC clip
showed him unequivocally denying sexual malpractice. ‘Don’t get so worked
up about it,’ he said. ‘It’s only a rhetorical device, my dear.’ The questioner
was Emily Maitlis.
Brand is an anthropological oddity, a mass of contradictions. At first glance,
he’s as sexy as Heathcliff. Those cavernous, tortured eyes, that brooding,
sculpted profile, the dark crown of uncombed hair, and the ripped-open shirts
that reveal a suntanned torso hugged by a silver studded belt. And physically
he’s not intimidating. His vocal pitch is high, girly even, and his mannerisms
suggest the fey and sexually inert Kenneth Williams. He’s a hunk who talks
like a hair-dresser. He affects a dated Dickensian accent and he has a
preference for scholarly vocabulary, and these quirks which place him in the
harmless world of the music hall.
But is there another side to Brand? On stage he mimed having oral sex with a
female who was evidently choking and weeping. He imitated the sound of
her gag-reflex and he celebrated the moment when she started to sob.
During his stint at BBC Radio 2, he made sexual remarks on air about a
journalist. ‘She’s erotic that newsreader,’ drooled Brand in his lascivious, self-
mocking way. ‘We’re going to get under that desk and we’re going to unleash
hell on your thighs.’
Even more troubling was a telephone interview with Jimmy Savile who asked Brand to send over his sister for an assignation.
‘I’ve got a personal assistant,’ said Brand helpfully, ‘and…anyone I demand
that she greet, meet, massages – she has to do it.’
Savile sounded keen, unsurprisingly, and Brand asked him what costume she
should wear. ‘Nothing,’ said Savile.
This locker-room jabber isn’t criminal, of course, but it profoundly damages
Brand’s reputation to be heard joshing with Savile and referring to women like deliveries of meat.
A reckoning will follow across many sections of media. The world of stand-up
comedy needs to straighten out its procedures. The Beeb is in hot water, yet
again. Why did it consider Brand the sort of person fit to hire? Charles Moore,
of this parish, made this point more powerfully than anyone. In 2010, he
criticised the BBC for its handling of a Radio 2 broadcast in which Brand and
Jonathan Ross made obscene and threatening telephone calls to the
answering machine of the elderly actor Andrew Sachs. The calls were about
how Brand had slept with Sachs’s granddaughter. The ‘joke’ wasn’t funny at
the time. It certainly isn’t now.
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user104658
19-09-2023, 11:27 AM
To be 100% fair an transparent, I do think the Saville conversation is a red herring, especially having heard it on the documentary. In that instance, I think he's mocking/goading Saville - ironically, I think he probably saw Saville as a dirty old deviant, not at all like himself. I highly doubt he was actually being chummy with Saville. It simply doesn't fit his quite obvious self-image.
This is probably going to be a controversial post for a lot of people, but I think that it needs to be pointed out anyway.
Anyone that people have liked in the Celeb world because they had a talent at something that you personally liked, doesn't mean that you can't still like them at that same thing if it turns out that they've committed heinous crimes.
I know that you're not directly saying that Zizu, but I do believe it's best to try to separate the art from the artist in cases like this, because unfortunately a lot of the really talented people of this world aren't necessarily the most likable.
On a much smaller scale than Russell Brand, look at James Arthur, one of the best male vocalists to come off TXF imo, yet he has a very fragile ego and a very thin skin, there I say it you could call him a Snowflake he is that fragile.
But my point being that I personally still think that he is a very talented vocalist, even if some of his songs personally don't do it for me.
Tangent aside, Russell Brand is like anyone, he has his good points and his bad points, unfortunately his bad points are outweighing his good points, but his good points were that imo (and I'm assuming that you agree with me Zizu) is that he is a funny man, and I don't think that it can be taken away from him.
And Twitter should be careful with speculating people into heinous crimes, have they not learned from the Huw Edwards situation where they were accusing Gary Lineker & Rylan of being Paedophiles? They shouldn't be openly accusing people without any evidence.
You make some very interesting and valid points !!
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i disagree Mock, for example, i haven't watched a Woody Allen film since stuff came out about him. I simply don't want to. The thing is, there are plenty entertainers around to choose from. I don't have to listen to Gary Glitter or Rolf Harris to get enjoyment out of life and I certainly don't want to contribute to a criminals royalty cheques and thats what you are doing when you watch these people on the TV or whatever
I can also see your point of view .. and indeed share it as regards bands like The Lost Prophets..
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While that may be true, it still does not justify alleged rape or sexual assault :shrug:
and a 31 year old man sending a car to pick up a child from school is well dodgy, okay she was 'legal' but just for all he knew she could have been younger than 16
Even if that were true, The 1% who didn't should just shut up should they? Because he'd gone too far? Nope.....they should have shouted then but they should still be heard now. Any nonconsensual act is nonconsenual, I don't care who you are or what rockstar lifestyle you lead, you don't get to force someone.
Having said all that, I can understand why they didn't report it. I've spoke about this before but having sat through a rape trial with a close family member, from minutes after it was reported to the end of the trial, the way the victims are treated is horrific and I would never recommend anyone from even bothering
Don't get me wrong, im not defending the bloke, i've never liked his style of humour, it was never funny to me. All im saying is im not shocked a celeb with his power and reach back then was shagging around.
Of course he's vile and disgusting for having a 16 year old child picked up from school. He's revolting for forcing himself upon women against their will. And i know innocent until proven guilty and all that, but i have no doubt whatsoever that when told "no" he would have either convinced the woman, or just done it anyway. Knobs like him aren't used to the word no.
I do think he's guilty, and i hope justice is served. I was merely pointing out that this doesn't shock me in the slightest. Zizu asking "where does this end" well i bet there's plenty of male celebs from back then sh!tting themselves right now.
user104658
19-09-2023, 12:54 PM
You make some very interesting and valid points !!
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It's called "separating the art from the artist" - it's become a sadly almost vital concept since people started being held to account a bit more, otherwise we wouldn't be able tow atch or listen to anything.
Sometimes I think it's easier than other times though. For example, Brand was at times (IMO) genuinely side-splittingly funny with his BB observations on Big Mouth. Those things will still be funny. His "slightly rapey" sex jokes - not so much.
But yeah. So many abusers in Hollywood for example, at both actor and production level, that many great movies would be out the window if we had to write every abusive bastard out of history.
Crimson Dynamo
19-09-2023, 12:55 PM
i will just leave this here....
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Don't get me wrong, im not defending the bloke, i've never liked his style of humour, it was never funny to me. All im saying is im not shocked a celeb with his power and reach back then was shagging around.
Of course he's vile and disgusting for having a 16 year old child picked up from school. He's revolting for forcing himself upon women against their will. And i know innocent until proven guilty and all that, but i have no doubt whatsoever that when told "no" he would have either convinced the woman, or just done it anyway. Knobs like him aren't used to the word no.
I do think he's guilty, and i hope justice is served. I was merely pointing out that this doesn't shock me in the slightest. Zizu asking "where does this end" well i bet there's plenty of male celebs from back then sh!tting themselves right now.
Especially the pop and rock stars …
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user104658
19-09-2023, 01:01 PM
i will just leave this here....
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All I can say again is that both things can be true.
On the one hand yes, you're pointing out that this is hypocrisy; the accusations against Brand shouldn't have been ignored back when he was a Lefty darling but they were, for much the same reasons that they're being denied/ignored by the Truthers now.
On the other hand -- you're admitting and pointing out that there were accusations of abuse against Brand back in 2015 (and beyond) when he was a Lefty darling and NOT part of the Truther "anti-MSM" cult ... so the argument that all of the allegations have been fabricated to "take him down" now that he is completely fall apart.
Which is it? Have all of the allegations been fabricated recently by a conspiratory elite because of his current views around Covid/MSM etc. or were there viable abuse allegations against him in 2015 when this tweet was made?
You do an awful lot of cake-eating for someone who wants to keep their cake.
arista
19-09-2023, 01:27 PM
https://twitter.com/GMB/status/1704024008767742143
There's one bloke who was very popular back then when Brand was at it, and carried on that fame well into the 2010's (not sure how famous he is now, but still a household name) who i think is probably quaking in his boots.
Niamh.
19-09-2023, 01:30 PM
There's one bloke who was very popular back then when Brand was at it, and carried on that fame well into the 2010's (not sure how famous he is now, but still a household name) who i think is probably quaking in his boots.
Give us a hint
Crimson Dynamo
19-09-2023, 01:34 PM
:umm2:
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Give us a hint
Had a huge show in the 2000's on UK TV, wanna say mid 2000's, as a duo with another mainstream name. One is tall, the other is short. Im talking about the tall one :laugh:
les dennis? :laugh:
Nah, he was a judge too on a very popular programme. The show he's most well known for was "cancelled" a year or so ago. Though it had long since ended.
user104658
19-09-2023, 01:41 PM
:umm2:
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I'd literally pay good money to be a fly on the wall while Sheriff watches this video.
Niamh.
19-09-2023, 01:41 PM
:umm2:
1704120388387524973?s=20
What show was that? :o
user104658
19-09-2023, 01:42 PM
Nah, he was a judge too on a very popular programme. The show he's most well known for was "cancelled" a year or so ago. Though it had long since ended.
Is it Gropey Walsh?
Niamh.
19-09-2023, 01:43 PM
Had a huge show in the 2000's on UK TV, wanna say mid 2000's, as a duo with another mainstream name. One is tall, the other is short. Im talking about the tall one :laugh:
Is he by any chance ,married to another TV presenter?
Crimson Dynamo
19-09-2023, 01:44 PM
What show was that? :o
God only knows
Is it Gropey Walsh?
No lol
Is he by any chance ,married to another TV presenter?
Erm, i just googled and i don't think so no.
Niamh.
19-09-2023, 01:47 PM
No lol
Erm, i just googled and i don't think so no.
Ohhhhhhhhhhh I know I think, Walllllllll
Niamh.
19-09-2023, 01:47 PM
Yes I see that
Ohhhhhhhhhhh I know I think, Walllllllll
Yes I see that
Yeah, him :laugh:
He's got it written all over him imo.
Brand really is a depraved arse
Crimson Dynamo
19-09-2023, 01:56 PM
Here are all his interviews in last few months
https://rumble.com/search/all?q=RUSSELL%20BRAND
Niamh.
19-09-2023, 02:05 PM
Well said Megyn Kelly
https://twitter.com/NatetheLawyer/status/1703894910611411026?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 18, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Crimson Dynamo
19-09-2023, 02:08 PM
What show was that? :o
Brand fronted a largely forgotten docuseries for Play UK. Reappraising it is eye-
opening – not least because, as a star five years later, Brand said he was proud
of its ‘powerful’, jaw-dropping content. Play UK, a now defunct satellite channel
conceived as a TV version of Radio 1, gave him £250,000 to make a run of
gonzo-style comic documentaries. The show was called RE:Brand (even the
title’s gimmicky styling, also playing off Brand’s initials of Russell Edward Brand,
is “of its time”) and prided itself on smashing social taboos. Its near-the-
knuckle material looks even more queasy in the light of recent revelations.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2023/09/18/russell-brand-documentary-rebrand-tv-show-red-flags/
user104658
19-09-2023, 02:09 PM
Well said Megyn Kelly
https://twitter.com/NatetheLawyer/status/1703894910611411026?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 18, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
They did read it, they just then stuffed their fingers in their ears and screamed "that was badly photoshopped by the global elite and big pharma". We saw it right here.
Crimson Dynamo
19-09-2023, 02:14 PM
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If anyone for this sort of thing is guilty, it's him. Sometimes a spade is a spade.
company's like youtube don't need to wait for an innocent/guilty verdict. It's their platform and they decide who gets kicked and who stays. They have applied the same approach to millions of other people so persecution just doesn't fly
Out of curiosity, for anyone attracted to men, is Brand actually good looking? I know it's subjective, but i've never understood his appeal.
Niamh.
19-09-2023, 02:30 PM
Out of curiosity, for anyone attracted to men, is Brand actually good looking? I know it's subjective, but i've never understood his appeal.
He's not really my type but he's not bad looking
Crimson Dynamo
19-09-2023, 02:35 PM
I feel sad for Jo Brand his wife
She must be in bits
GiRTh
19-09-2023, 05:39 PM
Here are all his interviews in last few months
https://rumble.com/search/all?q=RUSSELL%20BRANDWow!!!!
I didn't realise Brand had interviewed so many staunch right-wingers. Now I'm even more intrigued. Has he gone down this road for popularity or have his political views genuinely changed? :conf:
Kazanne
19-09-2023, 06:02 PM
company's like youtube don't need to wait for an innocent/guilty verdict. It's their platform and they decide who gets kicked and who stays. They have applied the same approach to millions of other people so persecution just doesn't fly
Companys like YouTube need to clean their act up full stop,some of the things they allow on their platform is disgusting and dont get me started on the animal abuse videos they let through,I suppose they have acted on this one as its a high profile case.
Crimson Dynamo
19-09-2023, 06:34 PM
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Mystic Mock
19-09-2023, 09:29 PM
It's called "separating the art from the artist" - it's become a sadly almost vital concept since people started being held to account a bit more, otherwise we wouldn't be able tow atch or listen to anything.
Sometimes I think it's easier than other times though. For example, Brand was at times (IMO) genuinely side-splittingly funny with his BB observations on Big Mouth. Those things will still be funny. His "slightly rapey" sex jokes - not so much.
But yeah. So many abusers in Hollywood for example, at both actor and production level, that many great movies would be out the window if we had to write every abusive bastard out of history.
I agree with all of this.
Also R Kelly is another one, a disgusting Human Being but Ignition in particular is a great song imo, I Believe I can Fly is another classic.
I also would listen to Lostprophets eventually as I do love Rock Music, admittedly that's probably my biggest hurdle to overcome though.:joker:
Mystic Mock
19-09-2023, 09:39 PM
Out of curiosity, for anyone attracted to men, is Brand actually good looking? I know it's subjective, but i've never understood his appeal.
Some people like the "rockstar" look.
Mystic Mock
19-09-2023, 09:44 PM
Companys like YouTube need to clean their act up full stop,some of the things they allow on their platform is disgusting and dont get me started on the animal abuse videos they let through,I suppose they have acted on this one as its a high profile case.
A YouTube channel that I watch called SomeOrdinaryGamers has spoke about Animal Abuse videos on YouTube in the past, you'd probably like his content because he does try to report these sick cases to the YouTube Moderators.
He also tries to deal with Paedophilia as well.
Crimson Dynamo
19-09-2023, 09:45 PM
Id be more impressed if dinosaur media like the bloated Sunday Times investigated the Lockdowns, Ukraine money misuse and or vaccine profiteering
but lets all be super impressed by 4 years of work on a 10 years out of date stand up
f me
user104658
19-09-2023, 09:58 PM
Id be more impressed if dinosaur media like the bloated Sunday Times investigated the Lockdowns, Ukraine money misuse and or vaccine profiteering
but lets all be super impressed by 4 years of work on a 10 years out of date stand up
f me
Who mentioned anything about being "impressed"?
arista
20-09-2023, 01:35 AM
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arista
20-09-2023, 01:52 AM
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Cherie
20-09-2023, 07:46 AM
Andrew Neil compared the rise of Russell Brand to Jimmy Saville in a scathing attack on British culture.
The former BBC and GB News broadcaster, 74, appeared on Piers Morgan: Uncensored on Tuesday night where he offered his opinion on the investigation into Brand, which revealed multiple allegations of sexual assault which Brand has denied.
Neil slammed the ‘hypocrisy’ of people ‘rushing to dissociate themselves’ with Brand and asked why they were ‘ever associated with him in the first place,’ listing a large number of media outlets and networks Brand had been interviewed on or, in some cases, worked on.
He described Brand as ‘neither funny but consistently vulgar, rude and unwatchable,’ and asked why ‘the BBC, Channel 4, The Guardian, The News State, the Labour Party, ever want to be associated with essentially this sleazebag in the first place?’
The broadcaster went on to embark on a scathing takedown of British culture, which he said ‘elevates people of no talent, people of no redeeming value whatsoever, to the status of national icons,’ comparing the rise of Brand to that of Jimmy Saville.
‘I give you Jimmy Saville. The classic example of that. A man of no talent who had a hotline to Margaret Thatcher and the Royal Family and in a different way – I’m not comparing the two in terms of what they did – in a different way we elevated Russell Brand to be this man that seems to have the pulse of young people in British society, whose every word we should hang on, and was worthy of interviews on BBC’s Newsnight or Guardian conferences…’
He went on: ‘It’s just nonsense, and this power of celebrity which seems to have the ability to make sensible people stupid, this is another classic example of it and it is corrosive to our culture.’
Neil was also asked what some are describing as the ‘trial by media’ Brand is undergoing, but dismissed this, saying the media is doing what it is supposed to.
Referring to the Harvey Weinstein allegations, he said ‘women speaking to journalists first is an interim stage before seeking wider proceedings and facilitating their ability to do so. And I think that’s another plus to it.’
He continued: ‘It isn’t trial by media. The newspaper and TV station have done their job. Now if there’s going to be a trial it’s a job for the police … the job for the newspaper is to expose and reveal, that’s what they’ve done.’
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/andrew-neil-rips-into-british-culture-for-making-national-icon-of-russell-brand/ar-AA1gY1Y2?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=7ea79ebd57f341619a6b291d493db005&ei=11
can't disagree with that take on it
Crimson Dynamo
20-09-2023, 08:12 AM
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Oliver_W
20-09-2023, 08:23 AM
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