Russell Brand allegations - Channel 4 Dispatches & Sunday Times

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[bots]

sex scandals don't really do it these days, even corruption is a bit mainstream. Stories these days tend to come from hacker dumps.

[The Slim Reaper]

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[UserSince2005]

Rishi and Starmer been ****ing?

[Nicky91]

Nigel Farage involved in a sex scandal


wouldn't surprise me :joker:

[Cherie]

sex scandals don't really do it these days, even corruption is a bit mainstream. Stories these days tend to come from hacker dumps.

Huw

[bots]

Huw

that all fizzled out very quickly. The only thing that kept it running was the whodunnit at the start of it all.

The Phil story all fizzled out the moment he resigned, the only thing that kept it going, was Phil's reluctance to give up his gravy train

[Cherie]

that all fizzled out very quickly. The only thing that kept it running was the whodunnit at the start of it all.

The Phil story all fizzled out the moment he resigned, the only thing that kept it going, was Phil's reluctance to give up his gravy train

Ended both their careers though for now anyway

[bots]

Ended both their careers though for now anyway

i just think the sunday times will need to come up with something bigger.

A torrid affair between Sunak and Angela Rayner won't cut it :laugh:

[arista]

Nigel Farage involved in a sex scandal


wouldn't surprise me :joker:


Nicky you are Wrong
he is No longer a MEP


So will not be him.

[arista]

Rishi and Starmer been ****ing?


NO


He is happy with his Strong Wife

[Crimson Dynamo]

Well at least we know it wont be a Lib Dem!

[user104658]

It better not be more ****ing nonsense about little green men. I refuse to even engage.

Huw

Speaking of Huw - I think there's potential for it to be BBC related. Every journalist and their dog looking to make a name will have been sniffing around in the aftermath of Huw. Maybe someone uncovered something. Something big an institutional - not just about an individual.

[UserSince2005]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12523253/What-tomorrow-nights-Channel-4-Dispatches-documentary-about.html

[Beso]

Salmond gets pegged by sturgeon

[Mystic Mock]

A Presenter at the BBC is blood related to Jimmy Saville?

[bots]

A Presenter at the BBC is blood related to Jimmy Saville?

a presenter at the bbc is Jimmy Saville .... now that would be a story :laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

a presenter at the bbc is Jimmy Saville .... now that would be a story :laugh:

:laugh:

[Beso]

a presenter at the bbc is Jimmy Saville .... now that would be a story :laugh:

Now then now then, that would be a story

[UserSince2005]

Apparently it’s to do with Russell brand

[UserSince2005]

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[UserSince2005]

Russell has one of the smallest knobs I’ve ever seen. You can’t rape someone with that.

[Mystic Mock]

I'm going to operate on innocent until proven guilty.

Unless there's audio tapes or poo on the bed moments.

[Mystic Mock]

Russell has one of the smallest knobs I’ve ever seen. You can’t rape someone with that.

:joker:

[Zizu]

Apparently it’s to do with Russell brand


Well Dan Wootton has seemingly escaped the noose sooooooooo


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[arista]

Apparently it’s to do with Russell brand


More like he wants to be the one that leaks it, first

[bots]

More like he wants to be the one that leaks it, first

Actor and comedian Russell Brand has posted a video online saying he “absolutely” denies unspecified criminal allegations about his personal life outlined in two “extremely disturbing letters”.

Brand posted the video on his YouTube and social media accounts on Friday evening, saying he received the letters from a “mainstream media TV company” and a newspaper which he said included a “litany of extremely egregious and aggressive attacks”.

He said: “Amidst this litany of astonishing, rather baroque attacks are some very serious allegations that I absolutely refute.

“These allegations pertain to the time when I was working in the mainstream, when I was in the newspapers all the time, when I was in the movies, and as I have written about extensively in my books, I was very, very promiscuous.”

Brand continued: “Now during that time of promiscuity the relationships I had were absolutely, always consensual. I was always transparent about that then, almost too transparent, and I am being transparent about it now as well.

“To see that transparency metastasised into something criminal, that I absolutely deny, makes me question is there another agenda at play.”

Brand said he believed he was a part of a “coordinated attack” and that he was going to look into this matter because it was “very, very serious”.

[arista]

https://twitter.com/rustyrockets/status/1702810015176794318

Channel? you Russell are Stuck on You Tube

On that above tweet - it's all about him,

He says the Two Media
are working together

Sunday Times and Talk TV?


Is that all this is???????????????

[LaLaLand]

https://twitter.com/rustyrockets/status/1702810015176794318

The fact that there’s an editing cut between the words “always” and “consensual” (look closely) is a bit dodgy…

[Zizu]

Well there have been rumours about a high profile , celebrity sex offender ( is that the correct terminology) doing the rounds for ages …


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[Cherie]

who cares about Russell Brand...:shrug:

[arista]

who cares about Russell Brand...:shrug:


Yes he used to be on real TV

[Crimson Dynamo]

someone had sex 10 years ago with Brand and now they now remember that they regret it as it might make them a few quid?

[Nicky91]

Tess Daly cheating on her husband Vernon


hopefully forced to resign her duties at Strictly and replaced by someone funnier without a script, former contestant Brian Conley :fc:

[Cherie]

someone had sex 10 years ago with Brand and now they now remember that they regret it as it might make them a few quid?

Katie Perry

[arista]

Ch4HD 9PM
tonight

90 mins special, on Sex lives of Presenters /stars

Dispatches special

May have contacted Brand


Ref:Showbiz Reporter speaking Live on GBnewsHD

[arista]

I assume a Reporter
from the Sunday Times
has viewed a clip

[bots]

it would be funny if this is the sunday times big story and all the other papers have beaten them to it

[arista]

it would be funny if this is the sunday times big story and all the other papers have beaten them to it


Yes,
I will have to post them all.


Moaning Russell
easy to get photos of

[arista]

https://twitter.com/MirrorTV/status/1702779720440414700

[The Slim Reaper]

That's someone with a shower cap hair do, and a flat head.

Can only think of Andy parsons and Dara O'Brien as baldies, but neither have the skull shape.

[Cherie]

https://twitter.com/MirrorTV/status/1702779720440414700

Prince Charles with those ears

[arista]

[British celebrity is in crisis mode as Channel 4
prepared to air a documentary which
could end their career.
A last-minute episode of Dispatches was dropped
into the schedule for 9pm on Saturday night.

The Mirror understands the documentary is set to
highlight bad behaviour by an A-list household name.
The contents of the Dispatches,
which will discuss a number of celebrities in the industry,
is said to be potentially hugely damaging.]

[arista]

That's someone with a shower cap hair do, and a flat head.

Can only think of Andy parsons and Dara O'Brien as baldies, but neither have the skull shape.


Its a standard Photo.


Could be RB

[thesheriff443]

Phil spencer?

[Cherie]

Dara Ó Briain is Irish

[Cherie]

Phil spencer?

That would be in very poor taste given he has just returned to TV after the death of both his parents in a car crash

[thesheriff443]

That would be in very poor taste given he has just returned to TV after the death of both his parents in a car crash

When did death ever get in the way of a story

[Cherie]

When did death ever get in the way of a story

I can't see it being Phil and if it is like who cares, he has even less of a profile than Brand

[The Slim Reaper]

Its a standard Photo.


Could be RB

They tend to show who it is in these things but you could be right, as maybe the papers have learned from the Huw Edwards issues; such as the allegations turning out to not be as explosive as promised, or more importantly, false.

[Cherie]

Its going to have to be someone on daily TV if they are going to get anything like the reaction they did with Huw and Phil

[The Slim Reaper]

Phil Spencer isn't a comedian.

[arista]

BBC News HD

Says it is Russell Brand


They kept saying Dispatches Ch4 9PM Tonight


They said he worked on Radio 2

[Cherie]

BBC News HD

Says it is Russell Brand

Yawn

[bots]

Phil Spencer isn't a comedian.

many would say the same about brand too

[The Slim Reaper]

many would say the same about brand too

:laugh:

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[Zizu]

Prince Charles with those ears


Camilla ?


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[arista]

https://twitter.com/keithdrichard/status/1702848064115847198

[arista]

https://twitter.com/DC16100/status/1703066789804929505

[Cherie]

Just come up as breaking news, accused of rape and sexual abuse at the height of his fame...its Brand

[arista]

Yes BBC News HD
using 2012 Film on Brand

[arista]

SkyNewsHD

Lady Reporter has read the Rape
when he was presenter on BBC Radio 2


It has
Women in the USA ,
and UK who he RAPED


Thanks Sky News
better than the Muddled BBC

[The Slim Reaper]

SkyNewsHD

Lady Reporter has read the Rape
when he was presenter on BBC Radio 2

The same time as he did that call to Andrew Sachs' granddaughter.

[arista]

The same time as he did that call to Andrew Sachs' granddaughter.


Yes around that time.


Katy Spencer
Showbiz Reporter (SkyNewsHD was shocked at the Rape
while he was working for Radio 2
in the BBC building


It must be on Times Online now

[Zizu]

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[The Slim Reaper]

Wouldn't be a thread on tibb without zeez posting some honking great pic in the middle of it :nono:

[bots]

thing is, is anyone actually surprised by the allegations? i'm not

[Cherie]

many would say the same about brand too

The tweet didnt mention comedian, just celebrity

[Cherie]

thing is, is anyone actually surprised by the allegations? i'm not

Nope, I never liked him but after he posted that photo of Katie first thing in the morning when she didnt look her best without her consent it was such a malicious thing to do to someone who relies on her image, he really came across as a twat

[arista]

2006 - 2013 (Working for Ch4 & Later BBC Radio 2)
4 Women against Brand

One women was 16
when she first had Brand (he was 31)
he sent a care for her.


Will they arrest Brand tonight?


Times Radio is playing clips (Played by a Actress on Ch4HD)
He was grabbing her knickers


Ref: Katy Spencer SkyNewsHD,
GBnewsHD

[BBDodge]

I guess he's not getting invited back to do the Big Brother support show.

[Crimson Dynamo]

His very popular Youtube channel regularly exposed the MSM

oh look its a hit piece from ...tada

The MSM

:rolleyes:

[Cherie]

2006 - 2012 (Working for Ch4 & Later BBC Radio 2)
4 Women against Brand

One women was 16
when she first had Brand (he was 31)
he sent a care for her.


Will they arrest Brand tonight?




Times Radio is playing clips (Played by a Actress on Ch4HD)
He was grabbing her knickers


Ref: Katy Spencer SkyNewsHD,
GBnewsHD


horrible twat

[arista]

I guess he's not getting invited back to do the Big Brother support show.


No,
he has been caught up with.


The 16 year old girl
him (aged 31)
gabbing her knickers

A actress had to play her voice
on Ch4HD Dispatches 9pm Tonight


Evil

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[bots]

they are both twats though

[Liam-]

Well that explains his rapid nosedive into the conspiracy world and building a new base of brain dead morons who believe everything they’re told by people who sound just as mentally I’ll as they do

[Crimson Dynamo]

Well that explains his rapid nosedive into the conspiracy world and building a new base of brain dead morons who believe everything they’re told by people who sound just as mentally I’ll as they do

or

I am happy to tow the MSM narrative because i don't like him (straight, white, successful)

:idc:

[Crimson Dynamo]

they are both twats though

who isnt a twat?

[arista]

Let's see the Ch4HD 9PM - 10:35PM Dispatches
tonight.

Longer show than the usual 30mins or one hour

[bots]

it is amusing that Huw was protected all they way, trying to keep his name under wraps and Brand is named instantly :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

it is amusing that Huw was protected all they way, trying to keep his name under wraps and Brand is named instantly :laugh:


Indeed and its just allegations from years ago that will never be proven

[arista]

Sky EPG has Changed to

"New Russell Brand : In Plain Sight." 9PM Ch4HD

[arista]

Ch4HDnews on now showing clips.

A new young runner
on Big Brother Extra for E4

The Young Lady said he got his Cock Out


She was 16
he was later Sexually Assaulting her.

Another young lady he raped in the UK
she could not face the police.


Under Data Protection Laws
Ch4 and BBC do not have to give
give Dispatches the Data?


Endemol Production
admitted they failed.
(Endemol has Gone, now Called Banijay)

[Crimson Dynamo]

Ch4HDnews on now showing clips.

A new young runner
on Big Brother Extra for E4

The Young Lady said he got his Cock Out


She was 16
he was later Sexually Assaulting her.

Another young lady he raped
she could not face the police.

are allegations

curated by the MSM

[Alf]

Well I assume he's been arrested and awaiting a court case then?

[Alf]

Any news on those who attended Epstein Island yet? Any news on Maxwell's clients yet? Surely she's not in prison for nothing. Wasn't she trafficking children? Who to?

[GiRTh]

Russell Brand admits to being promicuous in the time frame. Someone needs to tell him to shut up as such comments will not help his defence

[arista]

Well I assume he's been arrested and awaiting a court case then?


Not Yet

[arista]

are allegations

curated by the MSM


Are you saying while on E4
he did not get his Cock Out?

[Alf]

Definitely not an AI generated voice. Definitely not. It doesn't even sound like an AI generated voice, does it?



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[Alf]

Not YetWhat?

You're telling me a known rapist is roaming the streets and the authorities are doing nothing about it?

[Alf]

I can't think of a reason why the regime would be coming for him, can you?


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[The Slim Reaper]

What?

You're telling me a known rapist is roaming the streets and the authorities are doing nothing about it?

Yer man, Donald, was found guilty of being a rapist in court, and you don't accept it, so what difference does it make if he's roaming the streets?

[Alf]

Yer man, Donald, was found guilty of being a rapist in court, and you don't accept it, so what difference does it make if he's roaming the streets?Sure he did. That would have just been the pantomime courts for your benefit. To give you some hope to cling onto.

[Alf]

I'm no fan of Brand and think he's probably a stooge. That's why I see this as ridiculous. I know that while the media gets to report on this, then they can bury the Biden family crimes.

[The Slim Reaper]

Sure he did. That would have just been the pantomime courts for your benefit. To give you some hope to cling onto.

Maybe you're so far down the rabbit hole of falling in love with the worst people in the world, that you can't even see the wood through the trees, so every single thing that happens to someone you believe holds up the same causes as you. can never be guilty of anything.

I have no idea whether these allegations are true, but from the stuff released so far, it does look as though there might at least be a there, there.

The same excuse thrown up every time - it's a conspiracy and they're coming for me, because I'm supporting you and your rights, bollocks.

[Alf]

Maybe you're so far down the rabbit hole of falling in love with the worst people in the world, that you can't even see the wood through the trees, so every single thing that happens to someone you believe holds up the same causes as you. can never be guilty of anything.

I have no idea whether these allegations are true, but from the stuff released so far, it does look as though there might at least be a there, there.

The same excuse thrown up every time - it's a conspiracy and they're coming for me, because I'm supporting you and your rights, bollocks.There's a rabbit hole?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Maybe you're so far down the rabbit hole of falling in love with the worst people in the world, that you can't even see the wood through the trees, so every single thing that happens to someone you believe holds up the same causes as you. can never be guilty of anything.

I have no idea whether these allegations are true, but from the stuff released so far, it does look as though there might at least be a there, there.

The same excuse thrown up every time - it's a conspiracy and they're coming for me, because I'm supporting you and your rights, bollocks.


We love to see slim and Andrew Neil singing from the same hymn sheet when it suits the narrative..wow

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[bots]

Huw was a surprise, Brand is not. The reason Brand is not a surprise is because he has been flouting his behaviour for years. Next people will be saying the establishment were going after Saville because he smoked a cigar

[The Slim Reaper]

We love to see slim and Andrew Neil singing from the same hymn sheet when it suits the narrative..wow

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https://www.indy100.com/viral/andrew-tate-russell-brand-allegations

Andrew Tate supports Russell Brand as comedian denies ‘very serious allegations’

The same folks that want to protect women, seem very ambivalent about it whenever the choice is a man being accused vs multiple women.

I'd get your own house in order before you worry about Andrew Neil and I sharing an opinion. :smug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

nerve

hit

[UserSince2005]

Awkward that c4 is reporting on his wrong doings on a c4 show

[The Slim Reaper]

nerve

hit

Indeed it has :blush:

Care to argue against what I've just said?

Ahhh, actually don't bother. I've just seen the time, so I'm out of this convo.

Iechyd da! :smug:

[Mystic Mock]

who cares about Russell Brand...:shrug:

He used to host Big Brother's Big Mouth didn't he?

He is apart of the BB legacy.

[Mystic Mock]

Phil spencer?

Isn't that the Xbox guy?

[Mystic Mock]

thing is, is anyone actually surprised by the allegations? i'm not

I'm disappointed if he is guilty.

I've always loved to use the ballbag and ballsachs jokes over the years.:laugh:The

But tbh I just wouldn't have thought that he could be like this.

[bots]

Awkward that c4 is reporting on his wrong doings on a c4 show

like they didn't know exactly what kind of guy he was when they employed him

[GiRTh]

Him admitting to being promiscuous and drug taking is a big problem for him.

The argument can be made that he doesnt remember the incidents but they still took place.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Him admitting to being promiscuous and drug taking is a big problem for him.

The argument can be made that he doesnt remember the incidents but they still took place.

him saying they did not - them saying they did

as it stands

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Cherie]

I can't think of a reason why the regime would be coming for him, can you?


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If that was the case Huw and Phil would still be presenting

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[arista]

On Ch4HD now

[Alf]

On Ch4HD nowLike I said. It burries the Biden story.

You people don't need to hear what the Biden's have been upto. You'll get what you're given and like it.

[UserSince2005]

Sun newspapers “shagger of the year” 3 years in the row 😂

[bots]

Like I said. It burries the Biden story.

You people don't need to hear what the Biden's have been upto. You'll get what you're given and like it.

in case it isn't clear to you. Biden is in the USA, he is not our political leader, nobody here is interested in Biden

[Mystic Mock]

Like I said. It burries the Biden story.

You people don't need to hear what the Biden's have been upto. You'll get what you're given and like it.

Look we all know that Hunter Biden watches Love Island, it's not a criminal offense... Unfortunately.:hehe:

[UserSince2005]

He likes to spit. He held a 16 year olds mouth open spat a lot and made her swallow it.

[Alf]

in case it isn't clear to you. Biden is in the USA, he is not our political leader, nobody here is interested in BidenInterested in Trump though whenever they come up allegations against him, aren't you, and the UK media? That's quite clear.

[UserSince2005]

Did Lea Walker get a ****ing?

[Crimson Dynamo]

in case it isn't clear to you. Biden is in the USA, he is not our political leader, nobody here is interested in Biden

becuase he is "left wing"

lol

what tosh

[user104658]

Thread title is gross as **** but entirely unsurprising given the source.

[UserSince2005]

C4 blaming endemol, what a joke

[Crimson Dynamo]

Thread title is gross as **** but entirely unsurprising given the source.

grow a pair and make some threads then instead of bitching 24/7

[user104658]

As requested by LT, here is a thread for anyone half way sensible who wants to discuss the harrowing accusations about Russel Brand.

If you'd rather do the moronic flat earther BS there's another thread available.

[Alf]

Is Stormy Daniels one of the accusers?

[Mystic Mock]

I believe that we're secretly being bugged by people from the planet Xenozorb, who wants Russell Brand to go to jail because he knew that the people in power were from Xenozorb.

It's why Russell Brand isn't a lefty anymore, because he knows they're aliens.

I'm being sarcastic.

[UserSince2005]

Lea Walker needs to tell us what happened to her.

[user104658]

If you do want a conspiracy theory: I believe he took a sharp right turn and started engaging the "counter culture" idiots because he knew this was coming, knew his time would be up with any reasonable person, and so he set about gathering a following of the millions of gullible Covid-denying loser truthers who would simply ignore the accusations, declare them to be a grand conspiracy against him for his "alternative narrative" stance.

The worst part is that it's worked. He won't lose his current following, who either don't believe or don't care that he's a sexual predator, and in fact the exposure will probably gain him more followers from the various tinfoil hat nonce groups.

[Swan]

He's a sexual predator for sure. Him and The Scoffe seem to like them young too.

[Mystic Mock]

If you do want a conspiracy theory: I believe he took a sharp right turn and started engaging the "counter culture" idiots because he knew this was coming, knew his time would be up with any reasonable person, and so he set about gathering a following of the millions of gullible Covid-denying loser truthers who would simply ignore the accusations, declare them to be a grand conspiracy against him for his "alternative narrative" stance.

The worst part is that it's worked. He won't lose his current following, who either don't believe or don't care that he's a sexual predator, and in fact the exposure will probably gain him more followers from the various tinfoil hat nonce groups.

You probably are correct tbh.

[Alf]

If you do want a conspiracy theory: I believe he took a sharp right turn and started engaging the "counter culture" idiots because he knew this was coming, knew his time would be up with any reasonable person, and so he set about gathering a following of the millions of gullible Covid-denying loser truthers who would simply ignore the accusations, declare them to be a grand conspiracy against him for his "alternative narrative" stance.

The worst part is that it's worked. He won't lose his current following, who either don't believe or don't care that he's a sexual predator, and in fact the exposure will probably gain him more followers from the various tinfoil hat nonce groups.:laugh:

You can see your narrative slipping away each day, can't you?

Trump 2024 baby

[James]

Thread title is gross as **** but entirely unsurprising given the source.

I've edited the title.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Still a MSM hitjob

but we all know that

[user104658]

Still a MSM hitjob

but we all know that

People were talking about his sexual misconduct back when he was a lefty out marching around with Corbyn, he slid over to the right and his following won't be affected by what's coming out now at all (because his fans there actually buy the "mainstream hitjob" fantasy).

I wonder how you square that away? Obviously you can't... But you will anyway.

[Alf]

People were talking about his sexual misconduct back when he was a lefty out marching around with Corbyn, he slid over to the right and his following won't be affected by what's coming out now at all (because his fans there actually buy the "mainstream hitjob" fantasy).

I wonder how you square that away? Obviously you can't... But you will anyway.When did he slide over to the right? He never has. He just thought the Covid was a scam. Millions and millions of people thought the same. It wasn't a right wing position to think that way. You're giving the right wing far too much credit for being the ones on the side of free choice.

[Alf]

This is from The Times own article.

Do you smell a rat yet.


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[Alf]

So basically, what it means is. so called journalists were approaching people to try to dig up some dirt on Brand because he was going against the established narrative.

They maybe got a tiny bit of feedback from a tiny majority of people they approached. But we don’t know the characters of these people. They could be conpulsive liars or attention seekers for all we know. But some of you will buy it because your overlords are on the hunt for a kill. So you want it to be true. That way you get an online victory ego boost.

[user104658]

The reporters were approached by some women and then approached dozens of others to ask about their experiences. Some of them had bad experiences, and because of safety in numbers, chose to speak about them.

Alternatively: "The Mainstream Media" (who, exactly?) decided that Russell Brand - who hasn't had a mainstream career for years - needed to be "targeted" (to do what, exactly?) - even though it will actually likely result in him having a bigger following than ever.

Its absolute nonsense and completely sweeps these women's experiences under the carpet, for the benefit of a bunch of sad, bored people sat at home jumping at shadows. Utterly ridiculous. Time to grow up, Alf.

[Jordan.]

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[user104658]

So basically, what it means is. so called journalists were approaching people to try to dig up some dirt on Brand because he was going against the established narrative.

They maybe got a tiny bit of feedback from a tiny majority of people they approached. But we don’t know the characters of these people. They could be conpulsive liars or attention seekers for all we know. But some of you will buy it because your overlords are on the hunt for a kill. So you want it to be true. That way you get an online victory ego boost.

Oh yes all of the dozens of people involved are compulsive liars/attention seekers and Russell Brand alone is a beacon of truth because he's been peddling Trump-truth er QAnon garbage on his YouTube channel for a while. Utter madness. Your argument is genuinely that Channel 4 and The Times are engaging in lies and deception to counter Russel Brand's social media following of smoothe-brains.

I wish, I just really wish you could see how absolutely mental this is.

[Alf]

And I couldn't give a shiney one for Brand. If he is guilty then punish him. I just know how the game works. I'm not the best but I'm OK at smelling bullish!t.

[Alf]

Oh yes all of the dozens of people involved are compulsive liars/attention seekers and Russell Brand alone is a beacon of truth because he's been peddling Trump-truth er QAnon garbage on his YouTube channel for a while. Utter madness. Your argument is genuinely that Channel 4 and The Times are engaging in lies and deception to counter Russel Brand's social media following of smoothe-brains.

I wish, I just really wish you could see how absolutely mental this is.Why not?

If the reporters have been approaching people. Then there's an odds on chance that they approached people that said "No, Brand isn't that type of person" they're not gonna publish that ate they?

[user104658]

And I couldn't give a shiney one for Brand. If he is guilty then punish him. I just know how the game works. I'm not the best but I'm OK at smelling bullish!t.

You're not good at anything other reading whichever forums/watching whichever videos you get your ideas from and copying them verbatim to TiBB.

There is one thing I find less believable than Truther BS I guess.

That your opinions are your own and not simply adopted from elsewhere on the Internet.

[user104658]

Why not?

If the reporters have been approaching people. Then there's an odds on chance that they approached people that said "No, Brand isn't that type of person" they're not gonna publish that ate they?

How could they say "no he's not that sort of person"? They have no idea what other people have experienced with him? They can say "no he never did anything non-consensual to me" and that's it.

No one is claiming that he raped every single person he ever slept with.

[Alf]

You're not good at anything other reading whichever forums/watching whichever videos you get your ideas from and copying them verbatim to TiBB.

There is one thing I find less believable than Truther BS I guess.

That your opinions are your own and not simply adopted from elsewhere on the Internet.Mr University. You'll never be in my league. You're too far gone with the indoctrination.

[Alf]

You're not good at anything other reading whichever forums/watching whichever videos you get your ideas from and copying them verbatim to TiBB.

There is one thing I find less believable than Truther BS I guess.

That your opinions are your own and not simply adopted from elsewhere on the Internet.What's the difference between reading forums and watching videos or reading books? Do books somehow make it truer?

[user104658]

What's the difference between reading forums and watching videos or reading books? Do books somehow make it truer?

Using your own brain and any semblance of reason and logic instead of believing bizarre nonsense you saw on a YouTube video makes it far more likely you might stumble upon some real truth, Alf.

[Liam-]

I mean come on now lads, they’ve got him texting an apology to one of the women for terrifying her and not stopping after she had told him no, let’s stop playing silly sods just for the sake of being contrarian because you think it’s top bantz, you just make yourself look like silly people

[user104658]

I mean come on now lads, they’ve got him texting an apology to one of the women for terrifying her and not stopping after she had told him no, let’s stop playing silly sods just for the sake of being contrarian because you think it’s top bantz

I used to think this is what the people who buy into this sort of thing were doing. Fully believed it was just trolling.

But now I think they actually do believe it. Millions of 'em. And that's bloody horrifying.

[Beso]

You can take a man out of Grays, but you cant take Grays out the man.

[Alf]

When you speak truth to power, and your voice gets big enough to change hearts and minds, this is what the New World Order does to you ….

Julian Assange … prisoner for years.

President Trump … facing 800 years in prison.

Andrew Tate … jailed without charges for months.

Russell Brand … here we go again.

These people are pure evil


Yes Soldier Boy, this is someone else's tweet. But I copied and pasted because it comes across better this way. You'd have to click on the tweet otherwise.

But it tells no lies, does it?

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/5E25/production/_131110142_mirror-nc.png.webp

[arista]

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[arista]

I've edited the title.

Much better

[arista]

I mean come on now lads, they’ve got him texting an apology to one of the women for terrifying her and not stopping after she had told him no, let’s stop playing silly sods just for the sake of being contrarian because you think it’s top bantz, you just make yourself look like silly people


Yes that Ch4HD special
had 90mins time,
to go through it all


2nd showing Sunday 10:50PM Ch4HD

[Mystic Mock]

When you speak truth to power, and your voice gets big enough to change hearts and minds, this is what the New World Order does to you ….

Julian Assange … prisoner for years.

President Trump … facing 800 years in prison.

Andrew Tate … jailed without charges for months.

Russell Brand … here we go again.

These people are pure evil


Yes Soldier Boy, this is someone else's tweet. But I copied and pasted because it comes across better this way. You'd have to click on the tweet otherwise.

But it tells no lies, does it?

Andrew Tate is a scumbag.

And the only pull he has on people is the Incel community, I doubt that the MSM are going to be scared of him if that's his only weapon.

You might have more of a case on the others tbf.

[bots]

Something obviously triggered the investigation into Brand, but it really doesn't matter why. If the guy is innocent and there is no evidence to prove anything then it wont affect him. It's not like he has anything to lose in the main stream as he cut ties with that a while ago, so he won't be fired from anything

I don't actually see why its a big news story

[Mystic Mock]

Something obviously triggered the investigation into Brand, but it really doesn't matter why. If the guy is innocent and there is no evidence to prove anything then it wont affect him. It's not like he has anything to lose in the main stream as he cut ties with that a while ago, so he won't be fired from anything

I don't actually see why its a big news story

Because he is a big name tbf.

Everyone knows who he is.

[arista]

Something obviously triggered the investigation into Brand, but it really doesn't matter why. If the guy is innocent and there is no evidence to prove anything then it wont affect him. It's not like he has anything to lose in the main stream as he cut ties with that a while ago, so he won't be fired from anything

I don't actually see why its a big news story


I think it's the temp worker
who was 16 at the time.
He was 31.


She had a car that picked her up,
at her secondary school,
not talking before this Documentary.

[arista]

Ch4 Big Mouth, Big Brother. (Endemol)

and

BBC Radio 2


Had a duty of care.

He had a Show Last night in
Wembley, (around 2,000 went to see him)
he left while the Ch4HD Documentary
was going.


Ref: Rachel Venables (Ex LBC) SkyNewsHD reporter

[arista]

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1702951581937779162

[arista]

Russell Brand
talent agents
Tavistock Woods
have removed him from their website.


Showbiz Reporter on GBnewsHD

[bots]

I think it's the temp worker
who was 16 at the time.
He was 31.


She had a car that picked her up,
at her secondary school,
not talking before this Documentary.

but if there is proof, take it to the police. Let them do their job

[arista]

but if there is proof, take it to the police. Let them do their job


Yes we will see in a few days
if that goes ahead

[Oliver_W]

People were talking about his sexual misconduct back when he was a lefty out marching around with Corbyn, he slid over to the right and his following won't be affected by what's coming out now at all (because his fans there actually buy the "mainstream hitjob" fantasy).

I wonder how you square that away? Obviously you can't... But you will anyway.

Has he actually shifted to the right?

I'm not asking that to defend him in any way, fk him, just genuinely curious, without having to wade through lots of videos when I don't care about him :laugh:

I've seen a clip of him talking about how much money big pharma had made from Covid, but criticising big companies isn't exactly right wing :joker:

ETA - i scrolled through his video titles on YouTube and it could easily be Crowder's channel ...

[Nicky91]

Oh NOOOOOOOOOO :bawling:


one of my faves from Rock of Ages

[Oliver_W]

Oh NOOOOOOOOOO :bawling:


one of my faves from Rock of Ages

Mate it's been a long time coming. I wouldn't suggest that everyone with a sex addiction would be likely to be a predator, but Brand's behaviour has been all-but known for years.

[arista]

From BBC1HD Laura

Guest Jane Moore
said after this documentary
will other women come forward?

As it was said both BBC and Ch4
kept complaints hidden from the public

[arista]

https://twitter.com/IainDale/status/1703148471945990383

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Oliver_W]

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Is someone on the forum regretting making a thread?

https://64.media.tumblr.com/8258ab3847a6f5bd919e64b2490d1bdb/tumblr_np74jzOncF1sfysqqo2_250.gif

[Crimson Dynamo]

Is someone on the forum regretting making a thread?

https://64.media.tumblr.com/8258ab3847a6f5bd919e64b2490d1bdb/tumblr_np74jzOncF1sfysqqo2_250.gif

why?

If you recall I made the thread before anyone knew who it was about

Its interesting now to see the same media outlets that lauded Brand for being a serial shagger and could not get enough of him now turn up their noses now that the mood music of the future has changed...

[Oliver_W]

why?

Its interesting now to see the same media outlets that lauded Brand for being a serial shagger and could not get enough of him now turn up their noses now that the mood music of the future has changed...

"Even" way back in the mid-2000s, the media outlets could tell the difference between someone who's a wild seed-slinger, and an abuser.

In the Big Mouth days, I don't think he'd even openly spoken about his sex addiction, let alone had any accusations come to light.

[Zizu]

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1702951581937779162


As did Trump and Dan Wootton ..


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[arista]

Yes LT

It will all depend,
on if the UK women want to go to the Police.

In the USA
his USA Lawyers are fighting some cases.
One, a young girl he raped

[Zizu]

Mate it's been a long time coming. I wouldn't suggest that everyone with a sex addiction would be likely to be a predator, but Brand's behaviour has been all-but known for years.


How have all the rock and pop stars avoided prosecution for decades ??


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[bots]

How have all the rock and pop stars avoided prosecution for decades ??


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it's about power and influence. When people have friends in power, they are protected, but after a while, those people are no longer in a position to protect them and the floodgates open

[arista]

why?

If you recall I made the thread before anyone knew who it was about

Its interesting now to see the same media outlets that lauded Brand for being a serial shagger and could not get enough of him now turn up their noses now that the mood music of the future has changed...




Yes Very True
Toby Youngs tweet helped you.


Ian Dale knew it was Brand
on Friday.


All of a Sudden, Yesterday afternoon
both BBCnewsHD and SkyNewsHD
changed to naming Brand.


Of course, it was the moment
Sunday Times Article went online

[AnnieK]

How can these kind of allegations keep getting p ublished? Surely allegations of this seriousness shpuld be left to the Police and only when charges are made should they be made public. If this were to go to Court surely it will ve very difficult to find jury members who have not already decided if he is guilty or not as they will have been unable to avoid the case so surely that will prejudice any trial.

The guy is a sleaze, always has been but both he and his alleged victims deserve a fair trial and being splashed all over the papers won't acheive anything. The media should have a duty of care to report anything like this to the police or aid the vuctims in doing so

[Crimson Dynamo]

How can these kind of allegations keep getting p ublished? Surely allegations of this seriousness shpuld be left to the Police and only when charges are made should they be made public. If this were to go to Court surely it will ve very difficult to find jury members who have not already decided if he is guilty or not as they will have been unable to avoid the case so surely that will prejudice any trial.

The guy is a sleaze, always has been but both he and his alleged victims deserve a fair trial and being splashed all over the papers won't acheive anything. The media should have a duty of care to report anything like this to the police or aid the vuctims in doing so

they wont sell papers going to the police.

[UserSince2005]

He needs locking up for a very long time

[UserSince2005]

I’m going to my copy of my booky wook tonight

[Alf]

How have all the rock and pop stars avoided prosecution for decades ??


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProStayed in line.

[arista]

How can these kinds of allegations keep getting published? Surely allegations of this seriousness should be left to the Police and only when charges are made should they be made public. If this were to go to Court surely it will be very difficult to find jury members who have not already decided if he is guilty or not as they will have been unable to avoid the case, so surely that will prejudice any trial.

The guy is a sleaze, always has been, but both he and his alleged victims deserve a fair trial and being splashed all over the papers won't achieve anything. The media should have a duty of care to report anything like this to the police or aid the victims in doing so


The Problem is
it is America and the UK.


Already cases from women in California
are fighting his Lawyers

[Cherie]

Watched the Dispatches programme now and its unfortunately more of the same, management in the BBC and C4 fully aware of his behaviour but promoting him time and time again because of his 'popularity', how did Jonathan Ross survive the Andrew Sachs call? but he did ...I never liked Brand or his type of humour but when you see it now, you wonder how on earth he got away with it, but he did and he was lauded for it, serial shagger of the year just like Randy Andy was lauded for it back in the day, they cant wring their hands now because they were all fully aware but the big bucks were rolling in....the radio interview with Jimmy Saville must haunt Brand every day of his life ....unbelievable.

[arista]

Watched the Dispatches programme now and its unfortunately more of the same, management in the BBC and C4 fully aware of his behaviour but promoting him time and time again because of his 'popularity', how did Jonathan Ross survive the Andrew Sachs call? but he did ...I never liked Brand or his type of humour but when you see it now, you wonder how on earth he got away with it, but he did and he was lauded for it, serial shagger of the year just like Randy Andy was lauded for it back in the day, they cant wring their hands now because they were all fully aware but the big bucks were rolling in....the radio interview with Jimmy Saville must haunt Brand every day of his life ....unbelievable.



Yes
the 16 year old girl rape
is wrong.


I am glad it is on again tonight
10:50PM Ch4HD

[thesheriff443]

How can these kind of allegations keep getting p ublished? Surely allegations of this seriousness shpuld be left to the Police and only when charges are made should they be made public. If this were to go to Court surely it will ve very difficult to find jury members who have not already decided if he is guilty or not as they will have been unable to avoid the case so surely that will prejudice any trial.

The guy is a sleaze, always has been but both he and his alleged victims deserve a fair trial and being splashed all over the papers won't acheive anything. The media should have a duty of care to report anything like this to the police or aid the vuctims in doing so

Couldn’t agree more.

[UserSince2005]

Can dermot be exposed now?

[Alf]

How have all the rock and pop stars avoided prosecution for decades ??


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProWe all saw how Johnny Depp got away with years of physical abuse against his ex wife.

[arista]

https://video.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2023/09/17/2093065656921602490/964x580_JPG-SINGLE_2093065656921602490.jpg

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[user104658]

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For perhaps the 1.5 millionth time on this forum: being cleared at trial of rape (or on appeal, or it never going to trial at all, or charges never even being pursued by police) does not mean that "the women lied". Less than 1% of rapes result in a conviction because, by default, there are very rarely independent witnesses making lack of consent near-impossible to prove beyond reasonable doubt, even when injury has occurred.

The assumption that a victim has lied when a perpetrator isn't found guilty in court (which is the VAST majority of the time) is the very reason that most women don't even go to the police in the first place.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I mean these women did not even go to the Police

They went to a Sunday Paper..


as you do

[user104658]

How can these kind of allegations keep getting p ublished? Surely allegations of this seriousness shpuld be left to the Police and only when charges are made should they be made public. If this were to go to Court surely it will ve very difficult to find jury members who have not already decided if he is guilty or not as they will have been unable to avoid the case so surely that will prejudice any trial.

The guy is a sleaze, always has been but both he and his alleged victims deserve a fair trial and being splashed all over the papers won't acheive anything. The media should have a duty of care to report anything like this to the police or aid the victims in doing so

Annie all I can say is, you are vastly overestimating the official process when it comes to sexual assault. This is unlikely to ever go to court. If it did, the jury would be biased and prejudiced by default There is no such thing as a "fair" rape trial - and the vast majority of rapists who go to trial walk out of court laughing and smiling, leaving the vast majority of rape victims further traumatised due to aggressive cross-examination by the defense, and branded "liars" by idiots who don't understand that "not proven guilty" doesn't mean "proven innocent".

I absolutely hate that it's necessary to say this but, if you know someone who is sexually assaulted and there aren't multiple witnesses (almost never happens) or SEVERE injury (bleeding and bruising isn't enough, we're talking hospitalisation) - especially if they know the person who did it or made the choice to be alone in a room with them - then they absolutely should not go to the police. They should go to NHS sexual assault services who can verify physical evidence and gather/store DNA evidence without involving police, and then think very, very hard abouot whether or not to take it further because the most likely scenario is making things far worse.

It is an absolutely sickening situation.

[user104658]

I mean these women did not even go to the Police

They went to a Sunday Paper..


as you do

See above, not that you believe it, or give enough of a stuff about women (or feel anything at all about them beyond ever more evident contempt) to care about sexual assault :idc:.

[Cherie]

I mean these women did not even go to the Police

They went to a Sunday Paper..


as you do

It gets their voices and their story heard, the parents of guy involved with Huw Edwards went to the police and got nada.... just speaking about it can be catharitic, not every one wants to go through a court case to arrive nowhere

[arista]

I mean these women did not even go to the Police

They went to a Sunday Paper..


as you do

Can the trust the Police ?



[Production runner, Rachel, 24, worked
alongside Brand on Big Brother's EFourum,
later Big Mouth.
Weeks after she started the role,
Brand is said to have focused his
attention on her.

Rachel said: 'It's difficult to say when
the line was crossed.
' She added that producers often asked
her to deliver unfavourable news
to Brand to 'soften the blow'.

She said the pair went on to have sex,
which he told her was a breach
of his contract.]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12527955/Russell-Brands-sinister-behaviour-open-secret-senior-TV-radio-executives-BBC-Channel-4-bombshell-investigation-claims-chiefs-face-grilling-star-treated-female-staff.html

[user104658]

not every one wants to go through a court case to arrive nowhere

Exactly, and it's not even hard to understand why it often doesn't get a conviction (and more often than not, not even charges that go to trial). How do you prove lack of consent? It is literally one person's account of events vs another. Believing that person is on a balance of probabilities, but the nature of a jury trial is that even if most of the jury believes the victim that's not enough to convict. "Doubt" doesn't mean thinking the victim is lying, it just means what it means. 90% sure that someone is telling the truth is still "doubt".

On top of that, I've seen notes from a case where the perpetrator had told witnesses (his own friends, who testified!) that he was going to rape someone before he did it, AND there were text messages from him to multiple people afterwards saying that he had committed a rape ... and the jury still returned a not guilty verdict.

I find the whole thing legitimately terrifying.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6Na-FdXsAA9-oc?format=jpg&name=900x900

[rusticgal]

Unless there were witnesses they now have little chance in bringing this to court. Of course they should have gone to the Police at the time but thats easier said than done when you are young and intimidated and threatened by people like RB.
Doing this programme is the only justice they will get because he is now tarnished.
If he is not guilty of these things then it is utterly unfair and incriminating...however being the articulate, intimidating knob he is...it wouldnt surprise me if it was all true.

[arista]

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[Cherie]

Unless there were witnesses they now have little chance in bringing this to court. Of course they should have gone to the Police at the time but thats easier said than done when you are young and intimidated and threatened by people like RB.
Doing this programme is the only justice they will get because he is now tarnished.
If he is not guilty of these things then it is utterly unfair and incriminating...however being the articulate, intimidating knob he is...it wouldnt surprise me if it was all true.

He has incriminated himself because he used the material in his 'comedy' shows,choking women during blow jobs, liking that it made them gag and their mascara run etc, of course you could argue the women took these situations from his shows to use it against him, but it is highly unlikely and either way he made fun of humiliating women during sex...so

[Zizu]

We all saw how Johnny Depp got away with years of physical abuse against his ex wife.


Pretty sure it was the other way around ??


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[user104658]

The thing is, I found some of the worst of it to be his behaviour and pursuit in the first place of the young 16 year old girl - and most of it either wasn't actually illegal, or wouldn't be considered illegal (he'd argue he thought it was "consensual rough sex" which is again almost impossible to DISprove when it's a usually-willing sexual partner). He will have convinced her it was fine, maybe even said sorry later, the relationship probably continued... no way you could get a criminal conviction there.

But his treatment of that girl, a 16 year old kid, is absolutely hideous. It doesn't have to be criminal to be "criminal".

[Zizu]

I mean these women did not even go to the Police

They went to a Sunday Paper..


as you do


I can understand that as something like only 1% of rape prosecutions manage to get a guilty verdict ..


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[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/16829/production/_131110229_brand1.jpg.webp

Last night at Wembley.

[Alf]

I mean these women did not even go to the Police

They went to a Sunday Paper..


as you doNo, apparently the Sunday paper went to them. That's what their own article says

[Crimson Dynamo]

I wonder what Katy Perry thinks?

[Alf]

See above, not that you believe it, or give enough of a stuff about women (or feel anything at all about them beyond ever more evident contempt) to care about sexual assault :idc:.And you don't give a stuff about men. Infact you hate them. You'd happily see an innocent person incarcerated just because they have a cock and balls and no other reason. Pure evil.

[arista]

The Times reporter
speaking on Times Radio DAB & free online
they spoke to all these women
independently.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[arista]

Bev Turner
is no longer on her own
as she is not good enough on her own.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[user104658]

And you don't give a stuff about men. Infact you hate them. You'd happily see an innocent person incarcerated just because they have a cock and balls and no other reason. Pure evil.

Utter nonsense Alf, I just happen to think that your idea of "real men" (****ing demogogues like Trump and abusive sex trafficking losers like Andrew Tate) are not real men at all.

[GiRTh]

I thoguht I read that one of the accusers could prove she had recevied a rape kit. I would have thought there would also be a police report. IF there isnt then we have to ask why not?

I've not read much on the case but I'm already turned off by the 'mainsteam media are out to get him' narrative. Theres a certain level of self importance with this stance.

[user104658]

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So they've been investigating him "for years", the "Most recent allegation is 10 years old" ... and yet "it's all been made up by the MSM because he's part of the counter-culture".

Something that he's only gained a following with in the last couple of years. How odd! The MSM was investigating allegations of sexual abuse by Brand, and had multiple women invent allegations against him, before he was even an "anti MSM voice"!

They're psychic :omgno:

MyStic Meg D: :omgno:



... Not even checking your own posts for internal inconsistencies at this point LT. Poor show. Poor, poor show. Alf behaviour that.

[user104658]

I thoguht I read that one of the accusers could prove she had recevied a rape kit. I would have thought there would also be a police report. IF there isnt then we have to ask why not?

Rape kits are done by medical professionals in the NHS, the victim doesn't have to report to the police unless they want to, and the reasons "why not" should be obvious. Less than 1% conviction rate. And if you believe (like LT and co) that 99% of rape allegations are false ... well, I actually don't think for a second anyone actually believes that.

[Crimson Dynamo]

So they've been investigating him "for years", the "Most recent allegation is 10 years old" ... and yet "it's all been made up by the MSM because he's part of the counter-culture".

Something that he's only gained a following with in the last couple of years. How odd! The MSM was investigating allegations of sexual abuse by Brand, and had multiple women invent allegations against him, before he was even an "anti MSM voice"!

They're psychic :omgno:

MyStic Meg D: :omgno:



... Not even checking your own posts for internal inconsistencies at this point LT. Poor show. Poor, poor show. Alf behaviour that.

I did not post that Toby Young did and JP commentated. And i belive his point is why has it emerged now just as RB is exposing certain big Pharma and MSM relics

(oh and insulting members as you know isnt allowed)

[Cherie]

This story is not going to touch the sides of the RB Brand, his followers will not be bothered by this at all, it will be business as usual, so the idea that the MSM will bring him down is just nonsense

[GiRTh]

Rape kits are done by medical professionals in the NHS, the victim doesn't have to report to the police unless they want to, and the reasons "why not" should be obvious. Less than 1% conviction rate. And if you believe (like LT and co) that 99% of rape allegations are false ... well, I actually don't think for a second anyone actually believes that.I appreciate that less than 1% leads to a conviction but I'm thinking more of evidence that can be used against Brand. At the moment there doesnt seem to be much that can be used if there were court proceedings.

I work in a job where we attempt to prove coerscion, intimidation and controlling behaviour so I know how hard it is to prove. Many times we cannot prove anything and thus have to let the behaviour continue as we have to assume the parties have agreed to the behaviour. Brands comments about his own promicsuity and drug taking may be the things that can be used against him.

What are your feeling regarding any evidence that can be used against Brand?

[user104658]

I did not post that Toby Young did and JP commentated. And i belive his point is why has it emerged now just as RB is exposing certain big Pharma and MSM relics

(oh and insulting members as you know isnt allowed)

No one actually believes that you repost tweets on here as anything other than a mouthpiece for a point you want to make yourself, I don't know why you're bothering to pretend otherwise, it's not even vaguely convincing and you're not a politician. You don't need plausible deniability on TiBB.

Why it's emerged now is far less relevant than the veracity of the claims. I have no issue at all with the idea that the media has been sitting on this and not bothered to unearth it until Brand became a "person of interest" for them. That's a totally separate issue and one that I'm absolutely open to.

My contention is in the idea that the claims are fabricated, made up, that no misconduct took place, or that it doesn't matter "cos they're out to get him". That it's all lies and a conspiracy. As I said even the stuff you're tweeting makes that entirely illogical -- because it means they started investigating him BEFORE he became an anti-MSM voice, and the women who have come forward "made stuff up about him" on instruction before there was ever any reason for him to be being "framed". It's illogical nonsense.

It can however be BOTH true that he is an abysmal sexual predator, and that they're outing him NOW (despite having known about it for years) as something targetted. It doesn't make what he did to those women any less serious, or any less important.

And yes the same goes for Tate, Trump, and whoever else. The spotlight ends up on them because of their rising profile. It doesn't mean that the grime that's illuminated wasn't already there.

[Alf]

Utter nonsense Alf, I just happen to think that your idea of "real men" (****ing demogogues like Trump and abusive sex trafficking losers like Andrew Tate) are not real men at all.Trump I'll give you. But Tate and Brand aren't my type, you can even add Wooten to that. I've said many times on here that I have no time for either, I don't make threads of them. But I also know when I'm trying to be scammed.

My position as always been, if they're guilty, then punish them. But don't bullish!t me with these fake news agendas, when we know that people who have put themselves in positions of high power are getting away with murder (literally) They are the mob and I know they go after people who challenge them, that's how it works in a "Mob's" paradise.

I see you as a Storm trooper for "The Mob" always fighting against your own people.

You're delighted to push hard on the likes of Tate and Brand. You're a bit more silent when it comes to wanting to find out who Maxwell's clients were or who attended Epstein Island.

You'll always take "The Mob's" narrative. Because somehow in your head you think the alternative narrative is Far-right or Qanon conspiracy. Because "The Mob" told you so.

[bots]

How can these kind of allegations keep getting p ublished? Surely allegations of this seriousness shpuld be left to the Police and only when charges are made should they be made public. If this were to go to Court surely it will ve very difficult to find jury members who have not already decided if he is guilty or not as they will have been unable to avoid the case so surely that will prejudice any trial.

The guy is a sleaze, always has been but both he and his alleged victims deserve a fair trial and being splashed all over the papers won't acheive anything. The media should have a duty of care to report anything like this to the police or aid the vuctims in doing so

the whole thing is a nonsense. The majority of people already have an opinion on him. It's never going to court. Brand will not lose his job over it. It'[s not warning people of the type of person he is because they already know. The whole thing serves absolutely no purpose

[user104658]

I appreciate that less than 1% leads to a conviction but I'm thinking more of evidence that can be used against Brand. At the moment there doesnt seem to be much that can be used if there were court proceedings.

I work in a job where we attempt to prove coerscion, intimidation and controlling behaviour so I know how hard it is to prove. Many times we cannot prove anything and thus have to let the behaviour continue as we have to assume the parties have agreed to the behaviour. Brands comments about his own promicsuity and drug taking may be the things that can be used against him.

What are your feeling regarding any evidence that can be used against Brand?

I highly doubt it will ever go to court, and if it does he'll walk out smiling and declaring it "proof" that he was set up. Thus, I hope it never goes to court.

He's not been lurking down alleyways he's been abusing women who did at some point or other agree to sexual contact, and behind closed doors. The "evidence" will only amount to balance of probabilities and testimony.

If 10+ more people come forward with viable allegations then there's a better chance of something coming from it. Otherwise, like I said, zero chance and massively damaging to even pursue charges.

[user104658]

This story is not going to touch the sides of the RB Brand, his followers will not be bothered by this at all, it will be business as usual, so the idea that the MSM will bring him down is just nonsense

This is the other part that gets me -- if it's an elaborate hit job by the MSM and big pharma then they're completely incompetent and entirely stupid. His own followers will never beileve a word of it, they'll believe the idea that he's been "targetted". In fact the massive exposure and high media profile of all of this will attract MILLIONS more to his content. His profile and following as a "counter-culture voice" will be bigger than ever.

So to believe that it was all set up by "powerful media folks" ... you have to believe that they were unaware of all of this, which is simply not possible.

If anything it would be more believable if someone was to say, "he set the whole thing up himself to increase his profile".

[GiRTh]

I highly doubt it will ever go to court, and if it does he'll walk out smiling and declaring it "proof" that he was set up. Thus, I hope it never goes to court.

He's not been lurking down alleyways he's been abusing women who did at some point or other agree to sexual contact, and behind closed doors. The "evidence" will only amount to balance of probabilities and testimony.

If 10+ more people come forward with viable allegations then there's a better chance of something coming from it. Otherwise, like I said, zero chance and massively damaging to even pursue charges.Absent of court proceedings, then they may as well drop the story right now. If they dont pursue it further then it will look even more like a hit job.

I agree there is very little chance of any kind of conviction due to the nature of the allegations. I also think the accusers will be subjected to hell by Brands fans so I'm now unsure of how this will proceed.

[user104658]

Absent of court proceedings, then they may as well drop the story right now. If they dont pursue it further then it will look even more like a hit job.

I agree there is very little chance of any kind of conviction due to the nature of the allegations. I also think the accusers will be subjected to hell by Brands fans so I'm now unsure of how this will proceed.

Openly coming forward or naming themselves would be a monumental act of self-harm for any of these women.

[GiRTh]

Openly coming forward or naming themselves would be a monumental act of self-harm for any of these women.Agreed.

[Alf]

It's all good though. Because like I keep repeating. The Don and the military are in total control. And it's all going to end soon.

In the thread I made last night titled "The Great one" The Don tells you exactly what's gonna happen when he wins next year.

Obviously he doesn't need to win as he is already in control, but he has to do it this way for you sleeping people.

You don't think Biden is making Fook up's every single week for no reason do you. It's because he's not in control. If he was, you wouldn't even see him mixing up his words or falling down the stairs. His son and his business dealings wouldn't be known. It's about waking people up.

And right now, you think I'm crazy for thinking that, I know that. But eventually you will have to admit that I was right all along. And that pay off is why I persist. I'm very confident.

[user104658]

It's all good though. Because like I keep repeating. The Don and the military are in total control. And it's all going to end soon.

In the thread I made last night titled "The Great one" The Don tells you exactly what's gonna happen when he wins next year.


Alf you've been telling us how everything is going to change "next year" since 2019. That's 4 "next years" already. We'll all be dead & buried before any of these "next year" predictions actually comes true :joker:

[Alf]

Alf you've been telling us how everything is going to change "next year" since 2019. That's 4 "next years" already. We'll all be dead & buried before any of these "next year" predictions actually comes true :joker:This is the greatest military operation ever. How long do some wars take? The "Mob" ain't gonna lie down" they're fighting for their lives.

[Alf]

Remember when Trump opened the new branch of the military "Space force?"

Do you see the Biden regime ever using or even talking about them. No you don't, because he's not in control.

Trump is Commander in chief.

He tells you that he could end the Russia/Ukraine war in 24 hours. While Biden and the Western leaders tell you that they need billions of your money to send to Ukraine.

I prefer Trump's tactics.

[Alf]

And this is why I sometimes say that I think that Brand is probably a stooge. Paid to fill up news stories when the media want to hide things. The guy is an actor at the end of the day, that's his profession. Same as Harry and Meghan. She's an actress too.

Keeps people asleep in the matrix.

[The Slim Reaper]

Remember when Trump opened the new branch of the military "Space force?"

Do you see the Biden regime ever using or even talking about them. No you don't, because he's not in control.

Trump is Commander in chief.

He tells you that he could end the Russia/Ukraine war in 24 hours. While Biden and the Western leaders tell you that they need billions of your money to send to Ukraine.

I prefer Trump's tactics.

Trump tactic is just to give Ukraine to Russia, so more of a decapitation than a tacctic.

Trump will have just died in prison and you'd still be saying "now he's really got them where he wants them."

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Alf]

Trump tactic is just to give Ukraine to Russia, so more of a decapitation than a tacctic.

Trump will have just died in prison and you'd still be saying "now he's really got them where he wants them."I'm on your side. I'm just trying to wake you up to what's really going on.


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[Alf]

Richard Branson devastated that the nursery has been hit. I bet he is. What was his company, Virgin was it? Wasn't his island next door to Epstein's?


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[Alf]

Sean Penn loaned one of his Oscars for the cause.


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Zelensky is a better actor than Penn tbh

[Alf]

Stephen Fry was there last week. They're all invested in taking our money. And in return building culture wars in our communities with illegal immigration from third World cultures.

And I ain't no racist. I hope you know that. I treat people for who they are, not what they are. And I don't blame the people from the third world communities. I know it's set up by the real criminals.

If billionaire's like Branson really cared. They'd put some investment in the third World.

It took the Trump administration to come up with the Abraham accords to try to bring some peace and actually do something to help these people.

Trump is love. And soon you will see it.

[arista]

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Yes, alot of Papers,
more tonight as Monday
has more on Brand,
it is selling papers

[Alf]

And why I've gone off topic should be clear. Because this is just a smokescreen story.

Even look at the Huw Edwards thread, I pretty much hardly comnented. Because I know that they're all smoke screen stories.

This isn't about Brand. It's about us vs them.

[Alf]

And the Don is our leader. And he's doing it out of the goodness of his heart. Because he cares. He could retire in his old age with his billions and live a life of luxury. But he's a great man and is gonna defend the little people of this World.

[arista]

And why I've gone off topic should be clear. Because this is just a smokescreen story.

Even look at the Huw Edwards thread, I pretty much hardly comnented. Because I know that they're all smoke screen stories.

This isn't about Brand. It's about us vs them.


BBC News Huw Edwards got away with fiddling with young boys.


Brand has Raped a 16 year old girl.

[Crimson Dynamo]

bbc news huw edwards got away with fiddling with young boys.


Brand has raped a 16 year old girl.

its an accusation only

[Alf]

BBC News Huw Edwards got away with fiddling with young boys.


Brand has Raped a 16 year old girl.Like I say, that's small potatoes to the bigger picture. But if he did rape anyone 16 or younger or older then give him the punishment that that deserves. The thing is, I just don't believe anything the MSM says. They're the same people that covered up for Saville until he died. Why would I trust them? They're constantly asking me for my hard earned money for this and that. They're not my kind of people.