Henry being a Tory

[Kazanne]

I have seen and heard a few people saying they like Henry but wont be voting for him as he s a Tory which imo is a sweeping statement saying all Tories are bad people,they are not they just have different views on things.It shouldn't matter what his political persuasion is he is ,or seems to be a lovely caring person,imo its very unfair if Henry loses out because of that, after all we dont say Im not voting for ??? because they are Labour voters etc. Does it matter to people on here ?

[smudgie]

I have seen and heard a few people saying they like Henry but wont be voting for him as he s a Tory which imo is a sweeping statement saying all Tories are bad people,they are not they just have different views on things.It shouldn't matter what his political persuasion is he is ,or seems to be a lovely caring person,imo its very unfair if Henry loses out because of that, after all we dont say Im not voting for ??? because they are Labour voters etc.

He isn’t a Tory, he is a fan of the Tories.
He isn’t in the party.
Voting anybody for their political leanings is ridiculously silly.

[Vanessa]

I can't believe I kissed a Tory! Line of the series :joker:

[Abra]

I like Henry but that's the one thing that lets him down for me. Fair enough, have your political beliefs but his ass kissing for Boris Johnson because he thinks he's "hilarious" or "brilliant" or whatever isn't a good look when he's a hugely privileged man born with a silver spoon who isn't the one who's going to be massively affected by Johnson's incompetence and terrible leadership.

[Cherie]

He isn’t a Tory, he is a fan of the Tories.
He isn’t in the party.
Voting anybody for their political leanings is ridiculously silly.

agreed

[Benjamin]

The fact people make that an issue not to like him or vote him based on that says more about them. :idc:

[Bronzo]

I have seen and heard a few people saying they like Henry but wont be voting for him as he s a Tory which imo is a sweeping statement saying all Tories are bad people,they are not they just have different views on things.It shouldn't matter what his political persuasion is he is ,or seems to be a lovely caring person,imo its very unfair if Henry loses out because of that, after all we dont say Im not voting for ??? because they are Labour voters etc. Does it matter to people on here ?

I’ve seen this as well, it’s ridiculous isn’t it. Since social media has been a thing people are getting so arrogant with their views that they can’t accept other peoples views, they are simply correct 100% of the time in their own heads.

The fact people can’t just accept people have different views and respectfully disagree is crazy to me,

[Ammi]

I have seen and heard a few people saying they like Henry but wont be voting for him as he s a Tory which imo is a sweeping statement saying all Tories are bad people,they are not they just have different views on things.It shouldn't matter what his political persuasion is he is ,or seems to be a lovely caring person,imo its very unfair if Henry loses out because of that, after all we dont say Im not voting for ??? because they are Labour voters etc. Does it matter to people on here ?

…I’ve kept up with a few forums this season, Kaz…and I would say that if that’s how he’s being judged then it would just be a very few people because it’s not something that’s stood out as any ‘negative’ about him in anything I’ve looked at….I’m not sure about any social media sites because those aren’t something I follow…but my experience is that I’ve seen far more praise and even ‘concern’ for him in terms of his romantic feelings for Jordan…?…I think the ‘Tory boy’ is just something said more recently because that’s the ‘label’ that Jordan placed in fun and affection when they kissed…?

[Ammi]

…I think that I’ve seen more that ‘Henry doesn’t need the cash prize’…/rich boy, type stuff…

[Niamh.]

The fact people make that an issue not to like him or vote him based on that says more about them. :idc:I remember when you could have totally different political views and still be great friends/like a person/not let it affect how you treat them. I miss those days.

[jones89]

I like him as is.. but that’s just a bonus haha

[Bronzo]

I remember when you could have totally different political views and still be great friends/like a person/not let it affect how you treat them. I miss those days.

It’s almost as if people label people now straight away based on political views before getting to know somebody. It’s crazy people are willing to write off up to half of the population

[Parmy]

Henry showing the true face of the right, whilst Trish does the same for the left.

[Niamh.]

It’s almost as if people label people now straight away based on political views before getting to know somebody. It’s crazy people are willing to write off up to half of the population

It is and it's a very sheep like/tribal mentality

[Kazanne]

…I think that I’ve seen more that ‘Henry doesn’t need the cash prize’…/rich boy, type stuff…

Yes Ive seen that aswell:wavey:

[joeysteele]

Well I'm solid Labour although I wish Starmer the leader was more.

I've liked Henry since the first few days.
Wasn't sure I would, not because he is more a Tory.
I've loads of Conservative friends .
I wouldn't hold someone's politics against them in a TV show.
That's ridiculous

I like Henry because he's a good housemate and but for Jordan he would be the one I'd like to win.

I'd battle likely with Henry bigtime re Boris Johnson, however afterwards would thoroughly enjoy socializing over a drink too.

Kazanne and I have had battles re politics on here but there's mountains of other issues I agree with her on.
Anyone not liking Henry just because he's a Tory is both ridiculous and incredibly childish.
Pathetic in fact.

[Benjamin]

I remember when you could have totally different political views and still be great friends/like a person/not let it affect how you treat them. I miss those days.

Ahh the 1600’s. I miss those days too.

[Niamh.]

Ahh the 1600’s. I miss those days too.

:laugh: :love:

[Locke.]

He makes it such a huge part of who he is and his own personality that it absolutely does come into effect when viewing him as a housemate

[Black Dagger]

He brings it up often enough himself and he doesn’t need a 100k cash prize. Plus he hasn’t even been close to being the most deserving or entertaining housemate from a viewing stand point either so yes I will hold it against him x

[Mich3LL3]

He is much more likeable than Joel from 16th series who came second.

[Stu]

There's no problem getting along with people who aren't on your side of the political spectrum, but it becomes an issue when people admit that they predicate their political affinity on this cult-of-personality "Look at him, he's like your whacky mate on a night out really!" type stuff.

It's shitbrained, this kind of thinking. It cheapens the harm and damage done by government and Henry's had open conversation about it when confronted with some of that harm and damage.

That makes it a part of his presentation and fair game for the vote. You could argue it's actually a deeply important reason why someone would choose not to vote for him.

And I say that as someone who really likes the guy other than that.

[Liam-]

He brings it up often enough himself and he doesn’t need a 100k cash prize. Plus he hasn’t even been close to being the most deserving or entertaining housemate from a viewing stand point either so yes I will hold it against him x

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If I don’t think a Boris loving fanboy deserves to win a social experiment after looking a doctor and an nhs worker in the eye after hearing they’d suffered personal losses through covid and telling them that Boris did a cracking job, then I’m going to say and believe that, no matter how petty some people may think it is

[TheFMHatter1986]

I mean he has impersonated Boris, he wanted to have drink/dinner or something with Boris he defended Boris and the Tories over the COVID pandemic

[smudgie]

I don’t get the concept that if your family or indeed yourself have money then you shouldn’t be able to win a prize.
Does that mean that if you have savings you shouldn’t do the lottery?

[rusticgal]

He isn’t a Tory, he is a fan of the Tories.
He isn’t in the party.
Voting anybody for their political leanings is ridiculously silly.


Totally agree….sadly people can be very fickle.

Henry has just been a sincere and decent housemate and he should be judged on that alone, not his political lean to.

[Vanessa]

Totally agree….sadly people can be very fickle.

Henry has just been a sincere and decent housemate and he should be judged on that alone, not his political lean to.

He's so lovely. Wears his heart on his sleeve :love:

[Stu]

I don’t get the concept that if your family or indeed yourself have money then you shouldn’t be able to win a prize.
Does that mean that if you have savings you shouldn’t do the lottery?
I don't think that's anybodies concept. They should be eligible to win it. They may just be a less desirable option to win it.

[jones89]

Henry showing the true face of the right, whilst Trish does the same for the left.

That’s quite true.. most people i know on the right are really nice and decent, down to earth human beings.. the left seem to have more prejudices that they try to cover up with their social justice warrior routines, like oor Trishy :joker:

[jones89]

He makes it such a huge part of who he is and his own personality that it absolutely does come into effect when viewing him as a housemate

Does he really though ? I heard him mention it on launch night, that’s about it..

[Withano]

I disagree. ‘All Tories are bad people’ is practically a fact nowadays

[Lostie!]

In the current climate, it's perfectly fair for people to judge him based on wanting to have a drink with Boris and his cost of living crisis comment. He's a nice guy but massively out of touch

[Withano]

It works both ways though to be fair. Farage is easily gonna be in the final 3 of IAC simply because of his political leanings

If people don’t wanna be judged positively or negatively on their political leanings, they shouldn’t bring it up

[Lostie!]

Does he really though ? I heard him mention it on launch night, that’s about it..

He's definitely said it in the house too

It works both ways though to be fair. Farage is easily gonna be in the final 3 of IAC simply because of his political leanings

If people don’t wanna be judged positively or negatively on their political leanings, they shouldn’t bring it up

All great points :clap1:

[Maru]

Henry does not have a personality defined entirely by woo, so I go based on how he presents himself in the house.

[Alf]

Should have saved Zak.

[Northern Monkey]

I don’t know why he drew attention to it tbh. Is he trying to make Toryism more acceptable. It’s him that’s created this persona for himself, he’s advertised it as part of his character. It’s his own fault if he divides opinions. This is why many famous popstars never used to talk political allegiances, so as not to alienate a section of their fans.

[Mystic Mock]

It depends on how far his views go.

Like for example is he like Harry from BB12 who would brag about loving Fox Hunting? If Henry isn't like that then him being a Tory wouldn't really bother me.

[Mystic Mock]

I’ve seen this as well, it’s ridiculous isn’t it. Since social media has been a thing people are getting so arrogant with their views that they can’t accept other peoples views, they are simply correct 100% of the time in their own heads.

The fact people can’t just accept people have different views and respectfully disagree is crazy to me,

If people on Social Media struggle to accept differing views on entertainment related stuff, then unfortunately it's going to be even worse with Politics due to the serious nature of the topic.

[jones89]

It depends on how far his views go.

Like for example is he like Harry from BB12 who would brag about loving Fox Hunting? If Henry isn't like that then him being a Tory wouldn't really bother me.

I’m not sure foxhunting is exclusively a tory thing

[Mystic Mock]

I’m not sure foxhunting is exclusively a tory thing

Between the two major parties in this country, the Tories are the party that tries to make Fox Hunting more socially acceptable.

I know there's the Blue Foxes within the party who are very much against Fox Hunting, but it's definitely a more divisive topic within the Conservative Party than with Labour.

[Alf]

Between the two major parties in this country, the Tories are the party that tries to make Fox Hunting more socially acceptable.

I know there's the Blue Foxes within the party who are very much against Fox Hunting, but it's definitely a more divisive topic within the Conservative Party than with Labour.It's the dogs that love the fox hunting. It's what's their fun in life.

When you take that away from them. It's the dogs you're punishing.

It's like banning the Lions from Gazelle and Wilderbeast hunting

[Alf]

It's the dogs that love the fox hunting. It's what's their fun in life.

When you take that away from them. It's the dogs you're punishing.

It's like banning the Lions from Gazelle and Wilderbeast huntingI know Kazanne doesn't like those opinions I have. And I love our Kaz. And I'm always hesitant to put out those opinion's because I don't really want to upset Kaz. But it's not personal against Kaz, because I would never want to upset her, but at the same time it is business and I'm always honest.

[Mystic Mock]

It's the dogs that love the fox hunting. It's what's their fun in life.

When you take that away from them. It's the dogs you're punishing.

It's like banning the Lions from Gazelle and Wilderbeast hunting

The Dogs get starved so that they'll attack anything that moves.

Hence why unfortunately some people's Cats in the countryside have been killed during these Fox Hunting sessions.

[GlitterUK]

I really like Henry for being himself, he is one of the most genuine and nice people on the show. I think people saying he doesn't need the money are being harsh. The Tory comments also and it being a reason not to vote for him is also harsh.

I did cringe a little when he was bigging up Boris but that is his opinion which he is entitled to.

[Jack_]

It’s not secret that I am definitely NOT a Tory, but I am inclined to agree. However, this needs widening out - because not only are political leanings irrelevant, so are tweets made prior to the series, after the series, whether they’re discovered during the series or after someone’s eviction. As is basically anything else that has happened or does happen outside of the confines of a housemates stay in the house

The point of Big Brother is to judge a housemate on their contribution to the actual series, i.e. stuff that happens in the house*, not outside of it. Otherwise there is literally no point in the show being on air. Genuinely.

*I am however open to the point that he’s talked about his admiration for the Tories in the house…

[GoldHeart]

When Henry wins it will remind me of that guy that won that other reality tv show, who was from a privileged background . What was it called now?? about levelling up and a elevator.

So it will be the same thing with Henry , Money will go to money. He doesn't exactly need the money, but i assume all hm's have/will make a bit of money when they leave with interviews, magazine deals etc.

[caprimint]

So ridiculous that people care so much about what political views somebody has, as if it defines them as a person

If you notice though it's always those who are against the Tories, you never find the Tories saying "oh they support _ so I won't vote for them"

Says everything you need to know :fan:

[Maru]

I don’t know why he drew attention to it tbh. Is he trying to make Toryism more acceptable. It’s him that’s created this persona for himself, he’s advertised it as part of his character. It’s his own fault if he divides opinions. This is why many famous popstars never used to talk political allegiances, so as not to alienate a section of their fans.

That's a good point. He probably was cast based on that detail. When it comes to politics in mass media now, they talk about it because that's part of the job description now and what they're cast to do. It has to be that way because why are so many jumping in front of each other to join some culture war bandwagon or show off their wokeness power level? There is a lot of competition and it is very cutthroat. Major studios have been consistently putting controversial person(s) prone to wax poetic about some niche belief system or champion some cause. These main roles act as a sort of spokesperson, expecting they'll mouth off about their personal beliefs because they know that 1) articles will be written 2) people will talk about it/fight online about it... it generates buzz... 3) it keeps the movie/franchise rooted in the current zeitgeist

For BB, they probably created a list of roles to make certain certain types or roles came into the series. Then they searched for people to best fit those roles who would be stable in fleshing out their typecast. Some of them knew too well how to behave in the house. For example, I don't think Jenkin liked how he was typecast once he realized what it was on the first day :laugh: (Edit: What happened to him actually was unfortunate) I wouldn't be surprised if during their initial talks, they kept bringing it up or asking him questions to sort out how to best get him to loosen up. "Just be yourself", etc They would remind him of important details like that and encourage him to put it in his VT... which maybe he had some input in?

Just some thoughts.

[Mystic Mock]

So ridiculous that people care so much about what political views somebody has, as if it defines them as a person

If you notice though it's always those who are against the Tories, you never find the Tories saying "oh they support _ so I won't vote for them"

Says everything you need to know :fan:

Tbf if someone said on BB that they support the BNP I would be very hesitant to support them, because the BNP stand for extremist views that I certainly don't agree with.

Surely everyone has a cut off point of what's too extreme of a political view to hold?

[caprimint]

Tbf if someone said on BB that they support the BNP I would be very hesitant to support them, because the BNP stand for extremist views that I certainly don't agree with.

Surely everyone has a cut off point of what's too extreme of a political view to hold?
An "extreme view" is something like supporting Hitler, not opposing "multiculturalism" and unchecked immigration :facepalm:

[joeysteele]

Tbf if someone said on BB that they support the BNP I would be very hesitant to support them, because the BNP stand for extremist views that I certainly don't agree with.

Surely everyone has a cut off point of what's too extreme of a political view to hold?

Even moreso if they spouted their views if they were on BB.

I've no issue with Henry, I like him and wouldn't mind him winning even.

As to your foxhunting point.
Indeed there were at least 2 recent manifesto inclusions from the Cons in 2015 and 2017.
To reverse the ban Labour brought in on foxhunting under Blair.
The Foxhunting 'Gentry' know their only chance to get the ban reversed is from the Cons.

I don't know what Henry's view is on Foxhunting but if he had ever said he supported it and would want the ban reversed.
I think on that more personal not just as political opinion, he'd lose some support.

It's certainly an issue on where I could never support the Cons.
I abhor Foxhunting and the horrible people who glorify in it.

[Ammi]

…I’m thinking as well that housemates in general are judged on many things because that’s the nature of it as well…and whether it be politics or whatever, from the moment they step into the house, the viewers/fans etc are all in judgement mode…as Whitney would have said, it’s not right but it’s ok…’cause BB, it is what it is…and I guess another way to flip it is…should political beliefs be ‘exempt’ from judgement also…I know that isn’t what anyone would or has suggested but…

…and surely BB really specifically choose housemates based in different aspects of their lives that they know will be judged but it’s also, getting to know the person and having those thoughts changed over time…creating new understandings, not only within the house with their fellow housemates…?…but for the fans/viewers as well…

[Ammi]

…many will vote on ‘relatable’ though, as well…not just ‘nice’ or ‘entertaining etc…so it could be said to be a ’read the room’ situation in that if the fans/viewers don’t or can’t relate to Henry…then they would be more unlikely to champion him…?..but though, he very much is being championed, isn’t he…he’s still in and could win so it’s very much that many aspects of his character are what many are seeing and have overshadowed any potential political belief judgement…?..

[GlitterUK]

I don't care he is a Tory and I don't care about his bank balance. I also don't care that he hardly washes up as I'm not in the house.

I like him for being the most genuine housemate in there. We have seen all sides of him and he has shown his full self.
He has integrity and has always had peoples backs in the house. He is all round nice but hasn't faked anything.

What you see is what you get with him.

[Vanessa]

I don't care he is a Tory and I don't care about his bank balance. I also don't care that he hardly washes up as I'm not in the house.

I like him for being the most genuine housemate in there. We have seen all sides of him and he has shown his full self.
He has integrity and has always had peoples backs in the house. He is all round nice but hasn't faked anything.

What you see is what you get with him.
Yes, he's lovely. :love:

[Stu]

Surely everyone has a cut off point of what's too extreme of a political view to hold?
*checks notes*

My psych evaluation says 'tories'.

[Mystic Mock]

An "extreme view" is something like supporting Hitler, not opposing "multiculturalism" and unchecked immigration :facepalm:

The BNP are very close to the Hitler line, just luckily they don't get the votes in this country so most people can just either ignore them, or think of them as Conservatives 2.0 (which they're not) but thankfully it doesn't matter because they're not getting in for the foreseeable future.

And as I've said earlier in this thread, it depends on what type of Tory Henry is ultimately for me, like does he support a disgusting blood Sport like Fox Hunting? Is he about the Immigration side of things? Or is he purely a business minded person?

Because I do find that the Tories tend to be in three different camps as to why they are a Tory, and to me the Fox Hunting crowd is the crowd I'd least like Henry to be apart of, because in my view it's inhumane.

[Mystic Mock]

Even moreso if they spouted their views if they were on BB.

I've no issue with Henry, I like him and wouldn't mind him winning even.

As to your foxhunting point.
Indeed there were at least 2 recent manifesto inclusions from the Cons in 2015 and 2017.
To reverse the ban Labour brought in on foxhunting under Blair.
The Foxhunting 'Gentry' know their only chance to get the ban reversed is from the Cons.

I don't know what Henry's view is on Foxhunting but if he had ever said he supported it and would want the ban reversed.
I think on that more personal not just as political opinion, he'd lose some support.

It's certainly an issue on where I could never support the Cons.
I abhor Foxhunting and the horrible people who glorify in it.

I 100% agree with you Joey.

[Mystic Mock]

*checks notes*

My psych evaluation says 'tories'.

Fair enough Stu.:laugh:

[BBDodge]

I'd pretty much forgotten the Tory thing until he won the cash, went in the diary room and said "the cost of living crisis affects us all equally".

Anyone but Henry for the win.

[GoldHeart]

Henrys dog will get him more support now i bet. That dog was too cute.

[letmein]

There are people acting as though they’re voting in a general election. People should vote for the person that they thought was the best housemate. Don’t make assumptions about people’s backgrounds and personal lives. Look at Trish. Unless they’ve made politics their entire character in the house, it shouldn’t matter how they vote.

[arista]

He isn’t a Tory, he is a fan of the Tories.
He isn’t in the party.
Voting anybody for their political leanings is ridiculously silly.


Yes it is nasty.

[arista]

Henrys dog will get him more support now i bet. That dog was too cute.


Yes a young happy dog

[millyrose]

I like Henry his dog is so cute

[ebandit]

................'henry talking about wishing to dine at a michelin ** restaurant for his 7th birthday treat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'

Mark L