Olly Alexander will represent the UK at Eurovision 2024

[Zizu]

He's a better actor than a singer that's for sure.


Na .. he has a beautiful voice on his mellow/ ballads when he’s not jumping around


Enjoy

https://youtu.be/_Ynmjznoap0?si=v3EyJfakkc404x6Z


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[joeysteele]

Na .. he has a beautiful voice on his mellow/ ballads when he’s not jumping around


Enjoy

https://youtu.be/_Ynmjznoap0?si=v3EyJfakkc404x6Z


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He has indeed Zizu

Goodness me, I cannot grasp the determination there seems to be to set out to demolish a guy for only trying his best.
It's relentless fault finding with him on and on.

However only from those who don't like him yet keep.going on about him.

He has a really good voice and as you say on ballads he can more emotionally express them better too by his vocals.
Although King, Shine and Sweet Talker to name 3 are absolutely ace songs he recorded.

Nothing wrong with the guy but you'd think he was a mass murderer because some didn't like his performance in a song contest.
Good grief, what a crime that must be to do a performance some didn't like so deny and rubbish his talent

However, he actually is also a brilliant actor as was demonstrated perfectly in Its A Sin.
We know that though Zizu.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

you two just cant accept you backed a total loser
sh1t song, poor singer, dreadful woke staging in a dirty men's toilet (apt)

give it up

lol :laugh2:

[Zizu]

you two just cant accept you backed a total loser
sh1t song, poor singer, dreadful woke staging in a dirty men's toilet (apt)

give it up

lol :laugh2:


You just went too far down a dark alley of criticism and can’t reverse out …


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[Christmas Dynasnow]

You just went too far down a dark alley of criticism and can’t reverse out …


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no

I was proved correct

own it

:joker:

[joeysteele]

you two just cant accept you backed a total loser
sh1t song, poor singer, dreadful woke staging in a dirty men's toilet (apt)

give it up

lol :laugh2:

Well he did much better than you predicted he would.

No singer warrants your relentless demolishing of them for just being in a song contest.
It's rather mystifying.

You just never stop.
You're supposed to really dislike him yet seem to cannot stop talking about him.
If I disliked a singer or anyone who couldn't impact on my life like you do Olly Alexander.
I'd not want to even acknowledge or mention him let alone day after day keep on about him.

Plus we didn't back a loser, he wasn't last or on nil points or bottom 5 like you predicted he'd be.
Anyhow in the ESC there is only one participant who comes through to win the contest.
24 others cannot even if they had equal votes.

So the rest are other placed participants in Eurovision not losers.
It just happens only one gets the winner title.

I never expected him to win.
The UK I doubt will ever win an ESC again.
Unless the image of the UK ever gets past the negative view most of the World has of the UK.

Even the group Blue couldn't win in their year.despite being popular in Europe.
So how could we back a loser when all we were doing was supporting him, because WE like him.
Israel didn't win either you know that don't you?.
So you must have backed a loser too.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

:facepalm:

[joeysteele]

It is as Kazanne said elsewhere.
Double standards to be criticising all male routine and staging that may be possibly mildly suggestive.

While not a word on mixed or all female ones being so.
That's interesting.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

It is as Kazanne said elsewhere.
Double standards to be criticising all male routine and staging that may be possibly mildly suggestive.

While not a word on mixed or all female ones being so.
That's interesting.

did anyone else stage a gang bang in a filthy toilet?


No

so not sure what comparison you make.?

mildly suggestive?

embarrassing

[joeysteele]

did anyone else stage a gang bang in a filthy toilet?


No

so not sure what comparison you make.?

mildly suggestive?

embarrassing

You just go from one absurdity to another.
Someone is embarrassing themselves but it ain't me.

[Merry Mockmas]

Double standards Barry,its no worse than a woman scantilly dressed imo.

I agree.

That's why my proposition is to accept both of them.:dance:

[Merry Mockmas]

no

I was proved correct

own it

:joker:

Music is highly subjective tbf.

[Good King Glennceslas]

LT not liking the gay singer. Shocking

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

I really rate him as an actor. I think he's talent

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Viewing figures down by 2 million :umm2:

6ukkkN6ddNE

[joeysteele]

Oh honestly here we go again.

Viewers figures are down because people are turned off by the whole Eurovision set up.

I do my best in life to avoid anything with stuck up prude Andrew Pierce goes on about.
Another gutter trash Daily Mail connection.
I don't think I've agreed, and proud I haven't too, with 90% Pierce says.

He's regularly on Good Morning Britain, with another useless ornament, Kevin McGuire.
They're both more like the 2 grumpy men from the Muppets.
Rambling on all the time, talking over each other.
I always switch off Good Morning Britain when that pair are on.

As I said yesterday, the obsessive relentless attempts to demolish a singer who entered a song contest because of not liking him for his personal life possibly.
Going on day after day.
Is going from one absurdity to another.

I'd myself prefer my energy used on people I like not wasting my time on celebrities I may not like.

Each to their own I guess.
It's still mystifying.

[James]

Viewing figures probably got a boost last year with the UK hosting.

[joeysteele]

Viewing figures probably got a boost last year with the UK hosting.

Yes, absolutely.

[bots]

in the 1960's Sandie Shaw performed in her bare feet, and the media reported on the controversy for months :laugh:

[Christmas Dynasnow]

in the 1960's Sandie Shaw performed in her bare feet, and the media reported on the controversy for months :laugh:

Thankfully she wasn't in a filthy men's toilet

she would have got a verucca

[joeysteele]

in the 1960's Sandie Shaw performed in her bare feet, and the media reported on the controversy for months :laugh:

How ridiculous.
So Eurovision has always'' had an intolerance of others individuality.

Doubt they were against her just for her sexual preferences however and try to demolish her personally.

Did she always perform with no shoes on.
Did anyone know why?

[Cherry Christmas]

I didn't watch Eurovision just watched the last of the voting, its clear the viewership gave their opinion on Olly, oversexualising on a family viewing show is a no no and the viewers gave their opinion, same when Ekin Su appeared in a body stocking in DOI she was bottom 2, next week she wore something wholesome and she was saved :laugh: No one wants to watch sexy acts with their kids....

[Zizu]

Viewing figures down by 2 million :umm2:

6ukkkN6ddNE


I didn’t agree with a word they said .. they didn’t even know anything about his music career… one of those idiots said he was a great actor but wasn’t a singer


That said , whilst I love Olly and all his music I felt uncomfortable watching his performance .

Why make it so overtly sexual anyway.. wether he used male or female dancers ..

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[bots]

How ridiculous.
So Eurovision has always'' had an intolerance of others individuality.

Doubt they were against her just for her sexual preferences however and try to demolish her personally.

Did she always perform with no shoes on.
Did anyone know why?

She simply felt more comfortable in her bare feet, but it was seen as unseemly at the time :laugh:

People forget that at that time bands like the beatles and the stones were considered heretics for daring to have long hair.


I grew up in a fabulous time :laugh:

[Zizu]

She simply felt more comfortable in her bare feet, but it was seen as unseemly at the time :laugh:



I grew up in a fabulous time :laugh:


Diane Vickers was the same


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[Christmas Dynasnow]

cvioxHCM844

[joeysteele]

I didn't watch Eurovision just watched the last of the voting, its clear the viewership gave their opinion on Olly, oversexualising on a family viewing show is a no no and the viewers gave their opinion, same when Ekin Su appeared in a body stocking in DOI she was bottom 2, next week she wore something wholesome and she was saved :laugh: No one wants to watch sexy acts with their kids....

Kids Cherie, up to midnight???
Really.

Does the watershed go out the window for Eurovision.
I don't know if any of my great nephews or nieces who are what would be termed kids.
Who watch Eurovision.

There was an act where the singer and others had NOTHING on.
There were things held up to cover up the bits that ought to be.

Is that though fine for kids.
There's was a Female singer who left little to the imagination as to her attire.

Are they okay though because they are mixed genders or all female genders.

It's just all male gender staging of a suggestive nature that's wrong and bad for kids.
On a programme going on well past the watershed.

I believe there's a junior Eurovision.
Kids can watch that.

Crikey BBC better not put any 18+ films on post 9 pm
If the watershed doesn't apply.

There was nothing wrong with the staging.
Only people having issues with the guys sexuality would see something to complain on.

As Kazanne stated.
Double standards to moan at his.
However not to the mixed or all female staging too of nudity or being let's say provocative.

Oh crumbs, time to get out of here.
Wheeled in now is Hartley -Brewer another misery guts

Good grief that weird woman my parents moaned about so much.
Oh yeah it seems May Whitehouse is alive and well here on TIBB.

[Cherry Christmas]

Kids Cherie, up to midnight???
Really.

Does the watershed go out the window for Eurovision.
I don't know if any of my great nephews or nieces who are what would be termed kids.
Who watch Eurovision.

There was an act where the singer and others had NOTHING on.
There were things held up to cover up the bits that ought to be.

Is that though fine for kids.
There's was a Female singer who left little to the imagination as to her attire.

Are they okay though because they are mixed genders or all female genders.

It's just all male gender staging of a suggestive nature that's wrong and bad for kids.
On a programme going on well past the watershed.

I believe there's a junior Eurovision.
Kids can watch that.

Crikey BBC better not put any 18+ films on post 9 pm
If the watershed doesn't apply.

There was nothing wrong with the staging.
Only people having issues with the guys sexuality would see something to complain on.

As Kazanne stated.
Double standards to moan at his.
However not to the mixed or all female staging too of nudity or being let's say provocative.

Does it still start at 8pm? I remember as kids it was one of the nights we could stay up late.... just watched Ollys performance now on Youtube, I think the public got it right, his voice was weak and the performance was ...er.... not to my taste at any rate

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Does it still start at 8pm? I remember as kids it was one of the nights we could stay up late.... just watched Ollys performance now on Youtube, I think the public got it right, his voice was weak and the performance was ...er.... not to my taste at any rate

I was allowed to stay up late to watch it as a kid

[joeysteele]

Does it still start at 8pm? I remember as kids it was one of the nights we could stay up late.... just watched Ollys performance now on Youtube, I think the public got it right, his voice was weak and the performance was ...er.... not to my taste at any rate

Yes it starts at 8 pm.
The routine had already been seen on the semi final shows.

However what's the point of having kids, watching a programme that takes best half an hour to get through the format.
Then going on to midnight so those kids shouldn't be watching anyway post 9pm
If they ARE that's not the shoes fault, it's the parents

It's fine if people didn't like the staging or the song or even don't like Olly Alexander.
However to go on about that staging which he didn't devise.
While overlooking the all female and mixed gender suggestive stagings.
Is blatant double standards.

It's really though his sexuality that's being got at IN MY VIEW.
Which is fine if people have an issue with that and against it.

Otherwise the Contest had more than Olly Alexander on it and other provocative suggestive routines too.

I just don't get it.
All the acts were seen on the Tuesday and Thursday before the final on Saturday.
Including the 5 main Countries automatically through.

If there was anything anyone thought Kids shouldn't see, they were there then.
So no need to have kids watching.

I don't get it the constant moaning, only at his routine.
One could be forgiven for thinking homophobia actually is still very much alive in the UK.
That's more worrying than a staging of a routine for Eurovision.
To me it is anyhow.

[joeysteele]

She simply felt more comfortable in her bare feet, but it was seen as unseemly at the time :laugh:

People forget that at that time bands like the beatles and the stones were considered heretics for daring to have long hair.


I grew up in a fabulous time :laugh:

Yes, my parent's told me of the outcry of the Beatles hair.
Plus how the Rolling Stones looked too.

I adore the 60!s music.
I've collected near all of the groups and singers of the 60s CDs.

I love Sandie Shaw.
Have a cd of her A sides and B sides
I believe the b side to Puppet on a String was Tell The Boys.
Runner up to be the UK entry by her.
I prefer Tell The Boys to Puppet ............

Love music of the 60s though
I would have loved to be around then absolutely.

She should have been Sandie Shore not Shaw being barefoot.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Everyone agreed the staging was seedy and inappropriate

hence it got NO public points

bad song, poorly sung and awful staging

the lad will do well to recover any credibility now going forward

[joeysteele]

Everyone agreed the staging was seedy and inappropriate

hence it got NO public points

bad song, poorly sung and awful staging

the lad will do well to recover any credibility now going forward

How absurd , EVERYONE, you've talked to everyone that exists have you ???
He'll do fine

Not everyone is homophobic iin this day and age.
Thank all powers to be for that too.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

He has even been disowned by Queers for Palestine as they begged him not to take part and he ignored them

:worry:

[joeysteele]

He has even been disowned by Queers for Palestine as they begged him not to take part and he ignored them

:worry:

Why should you care about that ?
I'm fact it's mystifying why you're so consumed by this one singer who happens to be gay, after.being in a song contest.

I could just imagine your further outrage if a British act pulled out of Eurovision for Palestinians.
I'm pretty sure it wouldn't have been any way complimentary.

You'd be firing anti-Semitism at him probably too then.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Why should you care about that ?
I'm fact it's mystifying why you're so consumed by this one singer who happens to be gay, after.being in a song contest.

I could just imagine your further outrage if a British act pulled out of Eurovision for Palestinians.
I'm pretty sure it wouldn't have been any way complimentary.

You'd be firing anti-Semitism at him probably too then.

Even the far left Daily Mirror are saying it was career suicide by ALexander :shocked:

"While Alexander may not admit it publicly, at least not for a while, signing up to
be the UK entry for this year's Eurovision Song Contest has been a disastrous
career move that could haunt him for years."

"Olly Alexander went from advocating for Palestine to claiming he 'wasn't
qualified to speak out' within a matter of weeks"

"In Olly Alexander's Road to Eurovision '24, the It's A Sin actor sobbed as he
addressed the calls for him to boycott this year's contest over Israel's
inclusion, saying he "wasn't qualified to speak on" the heartbreaking scenes
coming out of Palestine, referring to it as an "incredibly complicated political
situation."

Yet in October, before being unveiled as the UK entry for Eurovision two
months later, Alexander called for a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas, the
governing body in Gaza. An open letter from LGBT charity Voices4London
signed by Alexander referred to Israel as an 'apartheid regime' aiming to
"ethnically cleanse" Palestine."

"By insisting that he knows better than Palestinians, Olly Alexander again flaunts a colonial mentality," Queers For Palestine said in a statement regarding Alexander's response to their boycott plea"

(so by your logic they are homophobic too - this will be news for them)

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/sam-ryder-struck-lucky-eurovision-32773195

and that is the Labour Party supporting Mirror going in with 2 feet

[joeysteele]

Even the far left Daily Mirror are saying it was career suicide by ALexander :shocked:

"While Alexander may not admit it publicly, at least not for a while, signing up to
be the UK entry for this year's Eurovision Song Contest has been a disastrous
career move that could haunt him for years."

"Olly Alexander went from advocating for Palestine to claiming he 'wasn't
qualified to speak out' within a matter of weeks"

"In Olly Alexander's Road to Eurovision '24, the It's A Sin actor sobbed as he
addressed the calls for him to boycott this year's contest over Israel's
inclusion, saying he "wasn't qualified to speak on" the heartbreaking scenes
coming out of Palestine, referring to it as an "incredibly complicated political
situation."

Yet in October, before being unveiled as the UK entry for Eurovision two
months later, Alexander called for a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas, the
governing body in Gaza. An open letter from LGBT charity Voices4London
signed by Alexander referred to Israel as an 'apartheid regime' aiming to
"ethnically cleanse" Palestine."

"By insisting that he knows better than Palestinians, Olly Alexander again flaunts a colonial mentality," Queers For Palestine said in a statement regarding Alexander's response to their boycott plea"

(so by your logic they are homophobic too - this will be news for them)

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/sam-ryder-struck-lucky-eurovision-32773195

and that is the Labour Party supporting Mirror going in with 2 feet


I don't think you really read my posts which is fine of course..
I'm surprised you read any of mine to be frank.

However it must be universal knowledge on even here that I haven't a millionth of an ounce of caring what papers say.
The lot of them blow where the wind seems to be the more popular.
I never buy one or read one
I don't CARE.

I like Olly so am defending him.
I wouldn't have made a quarter of the posts I have if you hadn't come on day after day on every thread, even on the Swiss wiinner thread to spout your hate of Olly
Someone even asked you what had what you were saying to do with the Swiss winner

You never say anything about the stagings that involved mixed genders or only female which were of an unseemly nature.
You only highlight the guy who is gay and the all male staging of his entry.

What on earth is your problem with the gay side of the stagings but not the others.
That it has so consumed your energy to not dig up anything positive, only negative you can find on Olly Alexander.
Not the Eurovision team who devised the staging.
Not anyone else connected to it .
Only him, who is gay and open and proud about it.
To the extrent in the lead up to the contest, during it and now 2 days even on from it ending.

You are all over, just attacking him for the staging and him personally.
ONLY the gay person with the suggestive staging.
Others with just Women or mixed genders, nothing from you.
NOTHING.

The press are often homophobic, they threaten celebrities with outing them once they know for sure they are .
I can't wait to see the day the stinking rotten press of the UK.no longer reaches anyone .
The whole lot of them put together now barely reach 6 million in circulation.
10 to 15 years ago it was over double that at least.

As for the other organisation you are digging up.
When they hear from Olly properly himself that will be smoothed over.
I feel pretty sure of that

Honestly.
You really are going from one kind of obsessed absurdity to another.
Desperately too it seems.

The Eurovision contest and near all it's controversies of this year will soon be forgotten.
Next year it will be back with likely new controversies.
Let's hope the UK don't put in another unsuspecting gay singer for you to set out to character assassinate like this year with Olly.

I really like him so love talking about him.
If I hated him as you appear to, I'd never want to mention his name.
Never mind go on and on and on about him as you are.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

If the Daily Mirror is criticising him, he got no points from the general public and even Queers for Palestine are calling him a colonialist

I don't think pulling out the homophobia as a last resort card is going to help

with respect

[Zizu]

I don't think you really read my posts which is fine of course..
I'm surprised you read any of mine to be frank.

However it must be universal knowledge on even here that I haven't a millionth of an ounce of caring what papers say.
The lot of them blow where the wind seems to be the more popular.
I never buy one or read one
I don't CARE.

I like Olly so am defending him.
I wouldn't have made a quarter of the posts I have if you hadn't come on day after day on every thread, even on the Swiss wiinner thread to spout your hate of Olly
Someone even asked you what had what you were saying to do with the Swiss winner

You never say anything about the stagings that involved mixed genders or only female which were of an unseemly nature.
You only highlight the guy who is gay and the all male staging of his entry.

What on earth is your problem with the gay side of the stagings but not the others.
That it has so consumed your energy to not dig up anything positive, only negative you can find on Olly Alexander.
Not the Eurovision team who devised the staging.
Not anyone else connected to it .
Only him, who is gay and open and proud about it.
To the extrent in the lead up to the contest, during it and now 2 days even on from it ending.

You are all over, just attacking him for the staging and him personally.
ONLY the gay person with the suggestive staging.
Others with just Women or mixed genders, nothing from you.
NOTHING.

The press are often homophobic, they threaten celebrities with outing them once they know for sure they are .
I can't wait to see the day the stinking rotten press of the UK.no longer reaches anyone .
The whole lot of them put together now barely reach 6 million in circulation.
10 to 15 years ago it was over double that at least.

As for the other organisation you are digging up.
When they hear from Olly properly himself that will be smoothed over.
I feel pretty sure of that

Honestly.
You really are going from one kind of obsessed absurdity to another.
Desperately too it seems.

The Eurovision contest and near all it's controversies of this year will soon be forgotten.
Next year it will be back with likely new controversies.
Let's hope the UK don't put in another unsuspecting gay singer for you to set out to character assassinate like this year with Olly.

I really like him so love talking about him.
If I hated him as you appear to, I'd never want to mention his name.
Never mind go on and on and on about him as you are.


My only concern after all this settles down is Olly’s mental state / depression / anxieties.

I know he’s been on antidepressants for nearly 20 years


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[joeysteele]

My only concern after all this settles down is Olly’s mental state / depression / anxieties.

I know he’s been on antidepressants for nearly 20 years


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Zizu.
His Mum is a rock to him she was there with him at the contest.
He has good people around him who will insulate him from all character assassination nonsense.

He'll fortunately not look on TIBB so won't see the main negatives being endlessly fired on here.

He's fine Zizu.
Being supported and ensuring he's okay.

Look, Zizu, I'm going to pm you okay

[Livia]

Who is supporting the other nil points entrants from the UK who've disappeared from view? Show business is cut throat. You should be able to do your thing and own it, regardless of people's criticism, without people worrying for your mental health.

[joeysteele]

Who is supporting the other nil points entrants from the UK who've disappeared from view? Show business is cut throat. You should be able to do your thing and own it, regardless of people's criticism, without people worrying for your mental health.

Oh if only all Humans were the same and needed no special help or support.

People are different with different needs and feelings and insecurities.
Whether very poor to very rich.
Regardless of what their jobs or careers are..

Also Olly didn't get nil points he got 46.
None from the public vote but not nil points.

Plus how do you know others who've done badly in Eurovision haven't needed and got support badly needed once it was over.

[Livia]

Oh if only all Humans were the same and needed no special help or support.

People are different with different needs and feelings and insecurities.
Whether very poor to very rich.
Regardless of what their jobs or careers are..

Also Olly didn't get nil points he got 46.
None from the public vote but not nil points.

Plus how do you know others who've done badly in Eurovision haven't needed and got support badly needed once it was over.

I'm not talking about humans generally, I'm taking about performers in show business. And I don't know others haven't needed help afterwards. I just don't know why people are wringing their hands for Ollie, or how they know about his mental health problems. He's a successful performer. I believe there are people suffering worse and they're the ones who deserve out sympathy and empathy.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

My only concern after all this settles down is Olly’s mental state / depression / anxieties.

I know he’s been on antidepressants for nearly 20 years


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He will be fine. There are acts who came out worse. Like Norway?

[Christmas Dynasnow]

what dizzy do now?

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[Zizu]

what dizzy do now?

https://content.invisioncic.com/Mrangmedia/emoticons/confused.gif


He will continue making fabulous music , hit records , acting and being a positive role model for millions of people just for starters..


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[joeysteele]

He will continue making fabulous music , hit records , acting and being a positive role model for millions of people just for starters..


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He will indeed.
Because of the encouragement and support of those who want him to have success.
Plus got those of his fans who love his music, his songwriting and his acting.


He doesn't need to and should NEVER EVER bother about those who in the main just don't like his sexuality, so would love to see his career fail bigtime.
Who more hate him yet cannot stop talking about him.
I think thankfully and rightfully those of that problem with him, are going to be severely disappointed.

[arista]

He will continue making fabulous music , hit records , acting and being a positive role model for millions of people just for starters..




Yes an Actor

He should play a Gangster
carrying a Gun.

[joeysteele]

I'm not talking about humans generally, I'm taking about performers in show business. And I don't know others haven't needed help afterwards. I just don't know why people are wringing their hands for Ollie, or how they know about his mental health problems. He's a successful performer. I believe there are people suffering worse and they're the ones who deserve out sympathy and empathy.

There are many celebrities in show business despite having so called friends in show business.
Have been found dead alone or even taken their own lives too.

I repeat, there's no norm.
People are all different.
People deal with pressures differently.
Whether very poor or very rich.

It's no different for celebrities.
Whether, actors, singers or presenters.
Support and being uplifted can be needed by them as well as anyone else in every walk of life.

[Livia]

There are many celebrities in show business despite having so called friends in show business.
Have been found dead alone or even taken their own lives too.

I repeat, there's no norm.
People are all different.
People deal with pressures differently.
Whether very poor or very rich.

It's no different for celebrities.
Whether, actors, singers or presenters.
Support and being uplifted can be needed by them as well as anyone else in every walk of life.

I think maybe you're just a much nicer person than I am.

[Merry Mockmas]

I didn't watch Eurovision just watched the last of the voting, its clear the viewership gave their opinion on Olly, oversexualising on a family viewing show is a no no and the viewers gave their opinion, same when Ekin Su appeared in a body stocking in DOI she was bottom 2, next week she wore something wholesome and she was saved :laugh: No one wants to watch sexy acts with their kids....

It would've been different if it were Margot Robbie or Gal Gadot in that scenario.:joker:

[Merry Mockmas]

cvioxHCM844

Is this the 7th Heaven YouTube channel? Wtf!:umm2:

[Merry Mockmas]

Who is supporting the other nil points entrants from the UK who've disappeared from view? Show business is cut throat. You should be able to do your thing and own it, regardless of people's criticism, without people worrying for your mental health.

Tbf, the UK entrants (and most of Germany's entrants) get some brutal stick from the Eurovision public, a lot of the time from their own countrymen.

That will take it's toll on a person to some degree.

[bots]

Tbf, the UK entrants (and most of Germany's entrants) get some brutal stick from the Eurovision public, a lot of the time from their own countrymen.

That will take it's toll on a person to some degree.

Nobody ever thought of the stick that James Blunt got and the affect that had on his mental health. People even used to say so and so was a blunt in a cockney style :laugh:

[Merry Mockmas]

Nobody ever thought of the stick that James Blunt got and the affect that had on his mental health. People even used to say so and so was a blunt in a cockney style :laugh:

Tbf, some of the abuse that James Blunt got back in the day were really harsh imo.

There's nothing wrong with having a laugh about a singer that you don't personally like, but some singers do tend to attract an obsessive detraction base.

For example Nickelback is another artist where the hatred that a lot of people have for them is imo unhealthy and actually disproportionate to anything that they've done.

[joeysteele]

Tbf, some of the abuse that James Blunt got back in the day were really harsh imo.

There's nothing wrong with having a laugh about a singer that you don't personally like, but some singers do tend to attract an obsessive detraction base.

For example Nickelback is another artist where the hatred that a lot of people have for them is imo unhealthy and actually disproportionate to anything that they've done.

I 100% agree again.
I quite like James Blunt myself
He's made some really strong recordings

As with Olly Alexander too, there's been a real minor disproportionate negative response to Eurovision.

I mean really, I love Eurovision myself for the songs, the acts and way out performances.
However is it now a really serious and even fair competion.
I don't mean that just as to the UK but to other Nations too.
I think you mentioned Germany and I'd agree there too.

Anyhow Olly picked himself up, got going again

Planning new tour dates and has a new album to come out very soon too.
Which his fanbase is eagerly awaiting the release date of.

So the news is all good.

I'll never understand the unhealthy dislike of singers.
People either like their music or don't.
There are so many artistes and so many types of music too.
Concentrate on the ones liked rather than the ones not liked is what I do.

[Zizu]

Tbf, some of the abuse that James Blunt got back in the day were really harsh imo.

There's nothing wrong with having a laugh about a singer that you don't personally like, but some singers do tend to attract an obsessive detraction base.

For example Nickelback is another artist where the hatred that a lot of people have for them is imo unhealthy and actually disproportionate to anything that they've done.


I always presumed that Nickelback’s hatred came from everyone being sick of their song being number one for months


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[Merry Mockmas]

I 100% agree again.
I quite like James Blunt myself
He's made some really strong recordings

As with Olly Alexander too, there's been a real minor disproportionate negative response to Eurovision.

I mean really, I love Eurovision myself for the songs, the acts and way out performances.
However is it now a really serious and even fair competion.
I don't mean that just as to the UK but to other Nations too.
I think you mentioned Germany and I'd agree there too.

Anyhow Olly picked himself up, got going again

Planning new tour dates and has a new album to come out very soon too.
Which his fanbase is eagerly awaiting the release date of.

So the news is all good.

I'll never understand the unhealthy dislike of singers.
People either like their music or don't.
There are so many artistes and so many types of music too.
Concentrate on the ones liked rather than the ones not liked is what I do.

I agree with you 100% on your points Joey.

And yes it was Germany that I mentioned, I mean their Blood & Glitter song last year did not deserve to be dead last imo, and I remember feeling similar about a couple of their other entries.

And good luck to Olly on his new Album, he should use his Eurovision experience as a point to prove his detractors wrong.

[Merry Mockmas]

I always presumed that Nickelback’s hatred came from everyone being sick of their song being number one for months


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That didn't help.

And I suspect (and I do hate to be the one that keeps bringing this up in discussions) that some guys didn't like the fact that their girlfriends were fancying the lead singer, I'm willing to make a bet that some (not all) had that level of insecurity about their relationship.

[Zizu]

That didn't help.

And I suspect (and I do hate to be the one that keeps bringing this up in discussions) that some guys didn't like the fact that their girlfriends were fancying the lead singer, I'm willing to make a bet that some (not all) had that level of insecurity about their relationship.


What ?

Women fancied this guy ??!

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I’ll never understand women


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[Merry Mockmas]

What ?

Women fancied this guy ??!

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I’ll never understand women


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Well I know that some women did back in the day.

And I also think that my Mom did to some extent too, although nowhere near as much as Ronan Keating or David Beckham.:joker:

[Christmas Lights]

I watched clips on YT , Olly's voice was weak & forgettable it's as simple as that . And the staging was not going to make him win , it was obviously done as a silly distraction, that's literally all I remember ,I don't remember the tune.

And before people keep moaning about Olly getting criticism, it's the Eurovision ....where everyone is judged and scrutinised.

Olly's voice just wasn't up to it, and the song was dull. Even Switzerland out shined him , Nemo could actually sing , despite the obvious bias politics going on.

[Zizu]

I watched clips on YT , Olly's voice was weak & forgettable it's as simple as that . And the staging was not going to make him win , it was obviously done as a silly distraction, that's literally all I remember ,I don't remember the tune.

And before people keep moaning about Olly getting criticism, it's the Eurovision ....where everyone is judged and scrutinised.

Olly's voice just wasn't up to it, and the song was dull. Even Switzerland out shined him , Nemo could actually sing , despite the obvious bias politics going on.


I will accept that his voice wasn’t brilliant on the night BUT he was jumping around and contorting his body into crazy positions PLUS he is a naturally nervous guy so having the weight of his nation on his shoulders obviously took its toll and it’s been reported that the UK entry had sound issues.

He has got an absolutely beautiful voice though as he’s proved over the years with countless live tv performances where he’s in the minority of singing live rather than miming


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[joeysteele]

I watched clips on YT , Olly's voice was weak & forgettable it's as simple as that . And the staging was not going to make him win , it was obviously done as a silly distraction, that's literally all I remember ,I don't remember the tune.

And before people keep moaning about Olly getting criticism, it's the Eurovision ....where everyone is judged and scrutinised.

Olly's voice just wasn't up to it, and the song was dull. Even Switzerland out shined him , Nemo could actually sing , despite the obvious bias politics going on.

.... .and that's your view which you have every right to have and express

Just the same as those like myself who are strong fans of Olly.
Who also see Eurovision differently and would disagree
As it's moved a long way now from being just a song, really song contest.

I've actually only watched the stagings of ALL the Eurovision entries twice.
On the semi finals night on the BBC.
Plus on the Final itself.

I don't think after any Eurovision I've ever looked again at a video of any entrant over the years following.
Certainly I'd never even think of doing so on one I didn't even like .

Eurovision is now past
It's unlikely here in the UK we will hear little to even nothing eventually of Nemo from Switzerland soon.
Or any other of the entrants this year.

By the end of the year we'll be looking to the next Eurovision and I'd suspect some other unfortunate sacrificial British singer putting themselves forward for crumbs of votes from either the juries or the public
Which has been the usual norm for the vast majority of UK entrants over the last 25 years.

[Christmas Lights]

.... .and that's your view which you have every right to have and express

Just the same as those like myself who are strong fans of Olly.
Who also see Eurovision differently and would disagree
As it's moved a long way now from being just a song, really song contest.

I've actually only watched the stagings of ALL the Eurovision entries twice.
On the semi finals night on the BBC.
Plus on the Final itself.

I don't think after any Eurovision I've ever looked again at a video of any entrant over the years following.
Certainly I'd never even think of doing so on one I didn't even like .

Eurovision is now past
It's unlikely here in the UK we will hear little to even nothing eventually of Nemo from Switzerland soon.
Or any other of the entrants this year.

By the end of the year we'll be looking to the next Eurovision and I'd suspect some other unfortunate sacrificial British singer putting themselves forward for crumbs of votes from either the juries or the public
Which has been the usual norm for the vast majority of UK entrants over the last 25 years.

Well aren't people still talking about Lorleen what's her name from last year? , so it seems some winners still leave an impression. So you'll probably hear quite a bit about Nemo until we move onto the next .

Whether Olly had sound issues or got nervous singing live ,his performance just wasn't good imo , and I found it boring .... :shrug: , all I took from that performance was guys in boxer shorts acting suggestively. He's not the
only Eurovision performance I disliked.



I actually think he was better in the year & years days, and had more memorable tunes. I still think of his hit ' I
was a king under your control ', that was a bop .

[Zizu]

Well aren't people still talking about Lorleen what's her name from last year? , so it seems some winners still leave an impression. So you'll probably hear quite a bit about Nemo until we move onto the next .

Whether Olly had sound issues or got nervous singing live ,his performance just wasn't good imo , and I found it boring .... :shrug: , all I took from that performance was guys in boxer shorts acting suggestively. He's not the
only Eurovision performance I disliked.



I actually think he was better in the year & years days, and had more memorable tunes. I still think of his hit ' I
was a king under your control ', that was a bop .


I think that you are simply more familiar with his old songs and King .. I love his old stuff and his recent solo album equally

Dizzy is a fabulous, infectious pop song


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[Christmas Lights]

I think that you are simply more familiar with his old songs and King .. I love his old stuff and his recent solo album equally

Dizzy is a fabulous, infectious pop song


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Maybe so ,but this ' Dizzy ' song did not stand out .

[Christmas Dynasnow]

I think that you are simply more familiar with his old songs and King .. I love his old stuff and his recent solo album equally

Dizzy is a fabulous, infectious pop song


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"Dizzy is a fabulous, infectious pop song "

it got no points

so either the whole of the UK Listening public are wrong

or you are


can you hazard a guess here?

:joker:

[joeysteele]

Well aren't people still talking about Lorleen what's her name from last year? , so it seems some winners still leave an impression. So you'll probably hear quite a bit about Nemo until we move onto the next .

Whether Olly had sound issues or got nervous singing live ,his performance just wasn't good imo , and I found it boring .... :shrug: , all I took from that performance was guys in boxer shorts acting suggestively. He's not the
only Eurovision performance I disliked.



I actually think he was better in the year & years days, and had more memorable tunes. I still think of his hit ' I
was a king under your control ', that was a bop .


We don't hear much of Eurovision entrants or winners much in the UK after the contest.
Sadly because it used to be I believe a springboard to international success.

Olly actually is still the same as in Years and Years days and I agree 'King' is a classic of his along with others, I love 'Shine'.

On his last album, still under Years and Years although his solo work in 2022.
I also loved the song 'Sweet Talker' from his number one album 'Nightcall'.
I really like Dizzy too, especially his totally stripped back take he's done on it.


It's actually sad really that Eurovision is going down the road of out of the ordinary and perhaps controversial stage effects and staging.
It's like concerts too, they are going for outlandish staging.
Being honest, I didn't like most of the effects or staging of the majority on Eurovision.

The one I liked most was the simplest in my view
The French guy singing his song and using his voice.

However it's how shows like this are now, having effects, routines and staging which more detract from the songs and hinder the artistes.
I can't see Eurovision changing though and only expect the staging and performances to be staged even more wildly in future.

As I said on here somewhere, I have a dvd of past Eurovisions from 1956 to 2014.
It only shows snippets of who came in the top 3 of the contests.
I have to admit I really enjoy that dvd immensely.
In the last 7 years at least, although I have still a party night on Eurovision.
Once it's over, I haven't looked back over the last few Eurovisions at all afterwards.

Nice talking to you GoldHeart.

[The Grinch]

I love that Olly is on his mind having a over sexual preformmance however the Slovenia lady was wearing almost nothing, skin tight see through with only black dots covering her breasts is no where on his mind, maybe because she’s not gay and a woman that’s my guess

[Christmas Lights]

We don't hear much of Eurovision entrants or winners much in the UK after the contest.
Sadly because it used to be I believe a springboard to international success.

Olly actually is still the same as in Years and Years days and I agree 'King' is a classic of his along with others, I love 'Shine'.

On his last album, still under Years and Years although his solo work in 2022.
I also loved the song 'Sweet Talker' from his number one album 'Nightcall'.
I really like Dizzy too, especially his totally stripped back take he's done on it.


It's actually sad really that Eurovision is going down the road of out of the ordinary and perhaps controversial stage effects and staging.
It's like concerts too, they are going for outlandish staging.
Being honest, I didn't like most of the effects or staging of the majority on Eurovision.

The one I liked most was the simplest in my view
The French guy singing his song and using his voice.

However it's how shows like this are now, having effects, routines and staging which more detract from the songs and hinder the artistes.
I can't see Eurovision changing though and only expect the staging and performances to be staged even more wildly in future.

As I said on here somewhere, I have a dvd of past Eurovisions from 1956 to 2014.
It only shows snippets of who came in the top 3 of the contests.
I have to admit I really enjoy that dvd immensely.
In the last 7 years at least, although I have still a party night on Eurovision.
Once it's over, I haven't looked back over the last few Eurovisions at all afterwards.

Nice talking to you GoldHeart.

I bet that DVD is very interesting indeed through all the decades , seeing how things have changed. I think on yt someone has posted every winner from the start up until last year .

Yeah it seems Eurovision gets the trash label ,as everything is always more about gimmicks & theatrics for the sake of it & less about the actual talent .

I know it's a contest but it seems most of the countries are more bothered about out doing their fellow neighbours / competitors .....than actually focusing on having a decent song in tune and well choreographed routines, and this isn't just aimed at Olly , I still remember dancers and other routines in the past who have been terrible.



I mean look at how troll ISH & bizarre Finland was
:facepalm: .

I agree about France , that actually stood out to me as it was so simple & pure .

Nice talking to you aswell Joey :wavey:

[Christmas Dynasnow]

I love that Olly is on his mind having a over sexual preformmance however the Slovenia lady was wearing almost nothing, skin tight see through with only black dots covering her breasts is no where on his mind, maybe because she’s not gay and a woman that’s my guess

She is a lesbian

[The Grinch]

She is a lesbian

Guys can be homophobic and still watch lesbain porn.

Why aren’t you crying about her set then?

[Merry Mockmas]

I love that Olly is on his mind having a over sexual preformmance however the Slovenia lady was wearing almost nothing, skin tight see through with only black dots covering her breasts is no where on his mind, maybe because she’s not gay and a woman that’s my guess

:clap1:

I remember saying to my Brother straight away "what is she wearing?" Because it was that sexualized.:laugh:

Not that I'm complaining of course.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Guys can be homophobic and still watch lesbain porn.

Why aren’t you crying about her set then?

no one is crying, well some of us arent..

this thread is about the UK entry

its not an exercise in whataboutery

Plus no one in the thread has criticised the act for being scantily clad

The criticism of the staging is that no one wants to see a simulated gay gang-bang in a filthy public toilet

and no one did

it got NO points

[Zizu]

no one is crying, well some of us arent..

this thread is about the UK entry

its not an exercise in whataboutery

Plus no one in the thread has criticised the act for being scantily clad

The criticism of the staging is that no one wants to see a simulated gay gang-bang in a filthy public toilet

and no one did

it got NO points


I must be so naive

I just saw a huge white box / room


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[Christmas Dynasnow]

I must be so naive

I just saw a huge white box / room


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You need to up your cottaging game!

[Zizu]

You need to up your cottaging game!


It just reminded me of that Jamiroquai video from years & years ago

:)


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