Thoughts on Muslim people praying in public?

[UserSince2005]

Is it ever inappropriate?
I have definitely noticed it a lot more recently. Yesterday at the airport just in the seating area. I thought to myself surely there is a praying room in every airport?
And then a few days prior I was on a flight and a guy set up his mat at the back of the plane next to the exit door and prayed for a good 3-5 minutes.

[Oliver_W]

And then a few days prior I was on a flight and a guy set up his mat at the back of the plane next to the exit door and prayed for a good 3-5 minutes.

NGL, I'd probably think my death was imminent :laugh:

But yeah, if they want to moon everyone and kiss the floor, that's their business.

[UserSince2005]

NGL, I'd probably think my death was imminent :laugh:

But yeah, if they want to moon everyone and kiss the floor, that's their business.

Weirdly I didn’t jump to that conclusion. I guess I’m just used to knowing how overt Muslims are with there beliefs now.
Also on both occasions the guys were young (not older than 30) and handsome. Not like this weirdos you see in London.

[Redway]

It is not my business. Nor do I have much time for stereotypes in general (well done, Ollie). Some prayers aren’t even discernible but if overt prayer is the way they (that individual Muslim) want it, that’s just how it is.

[Cherie]

If it were on a plane I would be just a tad concerned :laugh: All airports have multifaith prayer rooms so not sue why anyone would want to pray in the middle of a busy airport and not avail themselves of a bit of peace and quiet but if thats what they want to so, no issues, as long as praying in public is tolerated for all faiths of course...

[Niamh.]

I don't care

[bots]

if they are inconveniencing others in a public space then it shouldn't be allowed. If they are not, then they can do as they like

[thesheriff443]

I’d respect them for being devoted to their faith
Some pray five times a day .

[rusticgal]

It doesn't bother me....but there are certain places like the aisle of an Aircraft etc where maybe a bit more thought should be given.

[Niamh.]

It doesn't bother me....but there are certain places like the aisle of an Aircraft etc where maybe a bit more thought should be given.Yes that's true

[thesheriff443]

It doesn't bother me....but there are certain places like the aisle of an Aircraft etc where maybe a bit more thought should be given.

He was at the back of the plane, if he was causing a problem I’m sure the flight crew would of had a word with him.

[Liam-]

No more offensive than those bible preachers in the street

[Zizu]

No more offensive than those bible preachers in the street


Or those dreaded door knockers


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[rusticgal]

He was at the back of the plane, if he was causing a problem I’m sure the flight crew would of had a word with him.


Its just insensitive imo...anywhere on the Aircraft in view of passengers who may be nervous of flying...may have some connection with people who died on 9/11 etc.... go to a quiet part of the Airport and pray before you board.

[Alf]

No more offensive than those bible preachers in the streetSo you are saying that it's offensive then?

[rusticgal]

No more offensive than those bible preachers in the street


No one has said its 'Offensive' just inappropriate :shrug:

[thesheriff443]

Its just insensitive imo...anywhere on the Aircraft in view of passengers who may be nervous of flying...may have some connection with people who died on 9/11 etc.... go to a quiet part of the Airport and pray before you board.

It’s not your own front room, it’s not the persons fault who is praying that someone else is a nervous flyer or has a 911 complex

[UserSince2005]

I took a photo of him because I thought it was bizarre
https://i.ibb.co/fqp5nd5/IMG-4817.png

[rusticgal]

It’s not your own front room, it’s not the persons fault who is praying that someone else is a nervous flyer or has a 911 complex


Its not his front room either....therefore you should be more thoughtful and considerate of others that's all....not much to ask.

[Liam-]

No one has said its 'Offensive' just inappropriate :shrug:

Alright then, no more ‘inappropriate’ than those bible preachers shouting in the street

[Liam-]

If an old white person started reciting the rosary on a plane, nobody would flinch, if one religion is allowed to be glorified in public, then all religions are

[thesheriff443]

Its not his front room either....therefore you should be more thoughtful and considerate of others that's all....not much to ask.

He is not hurting any one

[user104658]

I'm sure lots of people pray when they get on a flight, it's just not quite so overt. Assuming they're praying because they're planning a terrorist attack is perhaps an understandable human reaction - but it's still essentially racist.

FWIW of course as always I think it's all a bit silly, talking to imaginary people in the sky like it means something, BUT people are and should be free to do what they want so long as it isn't clearly harming or disrupting others.

[Cherie]

I took a photo of him because I thought it was bizarre
https://i.ibb.co/fqp5nd5/IMG-4817.png

He was kinda out of the way tbf he wasn't blocking anyone going up or down

[Cherie]

If an old white person started reciting the rosary on a plane, nobody would flinch, if one religion is allowed to be glorified in public, then all religions are

why would they have to be old or white to recite the rosary, there are plenty young black catholics, not sure how many times you have been on a plane but I have never in all my years flying heard anyone black or white recite the rosary, and if they did they would be disturbing other passengers if they were doing it out loud don't you think, it would be no different than having to endure someones taste in music because they had no headphones so yes I think there would be flinching

[Cherie]

I'm sure lots of people pray when they get on a flight, it's just not quite so overt. Assuming they're praying because they're planning a terrorist attack is perhaps an understandable human reaction - but it's still essentially racist.

FWIW of course as always I think it's all a bit silly, talking to imaginary people in the sky like it means something, BUT people are and should be free to do what they want so long as it isn't clearly harming or disrupting others.

sigh no it is not... its no different to assuming you might be mugged or raped by a man while walking late at night, its just a human thought....

[rusticgal]

Alright then, no more ‘inappropriate’ than those bible preachers shouting in the street


...you mean the ones in an open street as opposed to an enclosed aircraft

[rusticgal]

He is not hurting any one


Not physically...but no one said he was :shrug:

[Liam-]

This thread wouldn’t exist if someone was reciting the rosary, if your first thought when you see a Muslim praying is about your safety, then it’s racism

[Cherie]

This thread wouldn’t exist if someone was reciting the rosary, if your first thought when you see a Muslim praying is about your safety, then it’s racism

Can you tell me when you have seen someone reciting the rosary in public anywhere...because I have never seen this ever :laugh: and if I did I would probably think they were a nut job....does that make me racist

[rusticgal]

This thread wouldn’t exist if someone was reciting the rosary, if your first thought when you see a Muslim praying is about your safety, then it’s racism


Why don't you grow up.....

[Liam-]

I’m not the one having a strop because people pray in public and I’m the atheist!

[Beso]

Spose it would give you something to gawp at during the delay.

[bots]

if anyone of any religion, knelt down in the aisle of a plane and started praying, i would like to know who wouldn't be unsettled. Do they know something that I don't would be the first thought in my head

[thesheriff443]

if anyone of any religion, knelt down in the aisle of a plane and started praying, i would like to know who wouldn't be unsettled. Do they know something that I don't would be the first thought in my head

He took his pray Matt to the back of the plane and was praying out of sight, he is not in the middle of the isle at all

A nervous flyer having a panic attack is more likely to cause harm and distress

Also it’s narrow minded thinking if he is Muslim he might be a bomber

[bots]

He took his pray Matt to the back of the plane and was praying out of sight, he is not in the middle of the isle at all

A nervous flyer having a panic attack is more likely to cause harm and distress

Also it’s narrow minded thinking if he is Muslim he might be a bomber

it's not really narrow minded given historical hijacks

[thesheriff443]

it's not really narrow minded given historical hijacks

Of course it is considering how millions of Muslim’s travel by plane each year without any problem

[UserSince2005]

Why do you need to pray in the middle of short haul flight though?
I get they need to pray 5 times a day but can it not be scheduled so you don’t have to pray in public?
I can’t say the guy made a huge scene because he didn’t
maybe I was only 1 of a hand full of people who actually noticed him praying
But the cabin crew definitely did feel awkward by it
I think only because maybe the emergency exit must be kept clear at all times

For me I think there is a time and place to express your religion and in confined public spaces it really isn’t it.

[Cherie]

Why do you need to pray in the middle of short haul flight though?
I get they need to pray 5 times a day but can it not be scheduled so you don’t have to pray in public?
I can’t say the guy made a huge scene because he didn’t
maybe I was only 1 of a hand full of people who actually noticed him praying
But the cabin crew definitely did feel awkward by it
I think only because maybe the emergency exit must be kept clear at all times

For me I think there is a time and place to express your religion and in public spaces it really isn’t it.

I dont often agree with you but you are right, looks like an Easy Jet flight so not long haul, no need for this at all

@Redway where is the transphobia in the thread? who are the people you are referring to?

[user104658]

Can you tell me when you have seen someone reciting the rosary in public anywhere...because I have never seen this ever :laugh: and if I did I would probably think they were a nut job....does that make me racist

Its not uncommon at all to see people praying before a plane takes off - a lot of people are very, very scared of flying. So to name one of the ONLY places I've seen people openly praying I public... .... ... On planes. Before take off, before landing, during heavy turbulence. Not uncommon at all.

And we'd think nothing of it if it was a priest in full dog collar get up.

But we get a bit antsy if it's a Muslim.

I didn't even say I wouldn't - like I said, given the association with plane hijacking, it's a normal enough reaction. However, it is racial profiling by definition, and thus racist.

[Ninastar]

No but if I hear people starting to shout ‘allahu akbar‘ I will pee and poo myself at the same time.

[Cherie]

Its not uncommon at all to see people praying before a plane takes off - a lot of people are very, very scared of flying. So to name one of the ONLY places I've seen people openly praying I public... .... ... On planes. Before take off, before landing, during heavy turbulence. Not uncommon at all.

And we'd think nothing of it if it was a priest in full dog collar get up.

But we get a bit antsy if it's a Muslim.

I didn't even say I wouldn't - like I said, given the association with plane hijacking, it's a normal enough reaction. However, it is racial profiling by definition, and thus racist.


Literally fly 12 or more times a year and never witnessed anyone praying…..holding hands on takeoff and landing but never praying …might be a Scottish thing :laugh: what kind of praying are you talking about full on decades of the rosary ….most people who are nervous fliers have a few bevvies that’s why the airport pubs are generally packed …doubt the prayer rooms are

[Cherie]

I’m at the airport as I type not a person praying in sight …just relaxed people having brekkie

[thesheriff443]

I’m at the airport as I type not a person praying in sight …just relaxed people having brekkie

Not another drug run
Mr c walking like he got a duty free size bar of toblerone between his arse cheeks while smiling and joking

[thesheriff443]

Paddy says to Murphy
What if this bomb blows up on my lap?

Murphy says, don’t worry I’ve got another one in me suitcase

[Ammi]

…it feels as though you answered your own questions, User…the prayer was taking place at the back of the aircraft, which apparently is the most likely place that would be allocated….as there is more room so can be done without any disruption to any staffing routines….I was reading on one site that some passengers have been allowed to do small yoga routines and other non prayer related things also in this more quiet area…passengers have their back to that area so as you say, barely anyone would notice as you felt they probably didn’t…the prayers only last a few moments and the staff would ensure that it all adhered to passenger safety at all times etc…so it doesn’t feel as though there would be any reason to object to it, when it was all done with consideration and discretion etc…’is it ever inappropriate’…?…hmmm, maybe …but in the situation and circumstances that you’ve said, it doesn’t feel inappropriate and I would think, most airlines and situations would be similarly allowed for unless there were specific reasons why that couldn’t happen…

[Nicky91]

don't mind it myself

but i never have been an islamophobe so

[Cherie]

Paddy says to Murphy
What if this bomb blows up on my lap?

Murphy says, don’t worry I’ve got another one in me suitcase

Not at all surprised you haven’t been pulled by Liam or SB on this ‘joke’ try inserting Muslim for Murphy and count down to the outrage lol

[Mystic Mock]

This thread wouldn’t exist if someone was reciting the rosary, if your first thought when you see a Muslim praying is about your safety, then it’s racism

Well it's a Religion so it would be Islamophobia.

I know that I'm nitpicking.:laugh:

[thesheriff443]

Not at all surprised you haven’t been pulled by Liam or SB on this ‘joke’ try inserting Muslim for Murphy and count down to the outrage lol

Not be pulled because it’s an old joke that’s been around for years
And I’m clearly joking

Adding Muslim wouldn’t make it funny

How to confuse an Irish man

Give him a spade and a shovel and ask him to take his pick

[user104658]

Not at all surprised you haven’t been pulled by Liam or SB on this ‘joke’ try inserting Muslim for Murphy and count down to the outrage lol

I find outright jokes about these things a bit of a non-event Cherie, what gets my goat is people refusing to admit to having the attitudes and prejudices that are as plain as the nose on their faces :joker:.

You do nowt but strawman these days also :idc:. I quite plainly even said that yeah tbh I'd get a bit nervous if I saw a Muslim praying on a flight, that it's human nature given past events - so where is the outrage? I simply accept the obvious human psychology of snap reactions being unavoidable, and the clear fact that getting nervous about one religion (specifically) more than others is xenophobic. It just is. As an impartial fact, not even a judgement.

[rusticgal]

I quite plainly even said that yeah tbh I'd get a bit nervous if I saw a Muslim praying on a flight, that it's human nature given past events - .


….and that is the point being made. I don’t believe that anyone on this forum would, even for a split second, feel that way had they seen that on an aircraft prior to take off or after take off.
As unfair as it is…it’s human nature and a natural reaction….

[user104658]

….and that is the point being made. I don’t believe that anyone on this forum would, even for a split second, feel that way had they seen that on an aircraft prior to take off or after take off.
As unfair as it is…it’s human nature and a natural reaction….

Yes it is but it is still (by definition) xenophobic ... it's a form of racial profiling. I don't really see the harm in recognising and admitting our prejudices without getting precious about it - not one person on this earth has "no prejudice" and it's pointless to pretend otherwise or to take offense every time it's recognised. In fact I'd go as far as to say that anyone who claims to be 0% racist is either lacking in self-awareness, or simply lying.

[Mystic Mock]

I find outright jokes about these things a bit of a non-event Cherie, what gets my goat is people refusing to admit to having the attitudes and prejudices that are as plain as the nose on their faces :joker:.

You do nowt but strawman these days also :idc:. I quite plainly even said that yeah tbh I'd get a bit nervous if I saw a Muslim praying on a flight, that it's human nature given past events - so where is the outrage? I simply accept the obvious human psychology of snap reactions being unavoidable, and the clear fact that getting nervous about one religion (specifically) more than others is xenophobic. It just is. As an impartial fact, not even a judgement.

Fair points for the most part.

[Mystic Mock]

Yes it is but it is still (by definition) xenophobic ... it's a form of racial profiling. I don't really see the harm in recognising and admitting our prejudices without getting precious about it - not one person on this earth has "no prejudice" and it's pointless to pretend otherwise or to take offense every time it's recognised. In fact I'd go as far as to say that anyone who claims to be 0% racist is either lacking in self-awareness, or simply lying.

Are you saying that there's sum ting wong with people that claim to have zero racist thoughts or actions?:hehe:

Seriously though I agree with you that everyone has some form of prejudice towards a particular group, whether it be race, gender, nationality, religion, political opinions etc, nobody can escape it.

[Redway]

Well it's a Religion so it would be Islamophobia.

I know that I'm nitpicking.:laugh:

No, it’s good you’re acknowledging the difference. Islam is ultimately not a race.

[Mystic Mock]

No, it’s good you’re acknowledging the difference. Islam is ultimately not a race.

Thanks Redway.

[user104658]

Are you saying that there's sum ting wong with people that claim to have zero racist thoughts or actions?:hehe:

Seriously though I agree with you that everyone has some form of prejudice towards a particular group, whether it be race, gender, nationality, religion, political opinions etc, nobody can escape it.

I think racial bias either conscious or subconscious is inevitable unless someone is raised in a bubble. The absolute best one can do is to be aware of the subconscious part and make active decisions to counter the. I think there are plenty of people - charitable, perhaps most people - who do not WANT to have those prejudices. Ironically... Believing that they aren't there probably makes it more likely that they'll slip through.

To use the scenario in this thread as an example...

Person believes they have no subconscious prejudice

- I see a Muslim praying on a plane
- I feel uncomfortable with this
- I am ABSOLUTELY not a prejudiced or xenophobic person
- Thus, my fears must be justified / may be reasonable / sensible.


Person 2 acknowledges that they have those subconscious prejudices

- I see a Muslim praying on a plane
- This makes me uncomfortable
- I acknowledge that I have some prejudices based on past major world/news events
- I revaluate the situation on what the most likely reason is for them to be praying on a plane
- I wonder "is my comfortable feeling actually justified or realistic?"


Basically what I'm saying is, believing absolutely that you have no prejudice can actually lead to a more prejudiced outcome.

[Ammi]

…I do think though that it can also be very damaging and exasperating to apply labels …(…at worst…)…and pointless …(…at best…)…because it has such a closing down impact on so many issues that would benefit from more open discussion…anyway, one of the sad things is, which is reflective of a regressive society if you like….(…I suspect…)…if this very same thread/discussion had taken place with the very same people pre 9/11 and pre other terrifying world events that the responses would be different because ‘fear’ would not have been attached to some things in the way it is being referred to in the thread…the ‘prejudice’ that is being applied as a label is not an inherent thing or belief, it’s sadly become and becoming a learned thing attached to fear and yes…encouraged by the media and such the like but that’s also the way of the modern world…I don’t know what the ‘answer’ going forward is because there isn’t one as such, these things have no obvious ‘fixes’….because fear is such a powerful ruler and it’s the thing that is being mentioned most in the thread… people have not ‘developed prejudism’ in their beliefs and behaviours post 911, that surely wouldn’t make sense…what they’ve developed are various fears…and I know and realise that’s being acknowledged also but the labels are still being applied which will in my opinion, only close down and regress further…

[Ninastar]

I agree that everyone has a natural bias. It just depends on how you treat others… but sometimes you have to take action

Ariana Grande concert for example

There were multiple people who were afraid to act because they didn’t want to seem racist and that is a big problem.

People are more afraid of accidentally seeming racist (when they weren’t… this guy was a terrorist) than potentially saving lives and that’s where my issue with being seen as offensive comes from

[user104658]

…I do think though that it can also be very damaging and exasperating to apply labels …(…at worst…)…and pointless …(…at best…)…because it has such a closing down impact on so many issues that would benefit from more open discussion…

A few years ago I'd have agreed with you Ammi but my more recent stance would be that the slightest hint of criticism will have a closing down effect anyway, because that's just how it is in 2023, and people are not in the market for open discussion so you might as well say it as it actually is and as you actually see it from the off - because padding around the eggshells trying to preserve people's delicate sense of self is a complete and utter waste of time.

Better to hold up a mirror and highlight something immediately, that has a maybe 2% chance of resonating with someone, than to expect any sort of good-faith discourse. It's just not on the table at all.

[rusticgal]

…I do think though that it can also be very damaging and exasperating to apply labels …(…at worst…)…and pointless …(…at best…)…because it has such a closing down impact on so many issues that would benefit from more open discussion…anyway, one of the sad things is, which is reflective of a regressive society if you like….(…I suspect…)…if this very same thread/discussion had taken place with the very same people pre 9/11 and pre other terrifying world events that the responses would be different because ‘fear’ would not have been attached to some things in the way it is being referred to in the thread…the ‘prejudice’ that is being applied as a label is not an inherent thing or belief, it’s sadly become and becoming a learned thing attached to fear and yes…encouraged by the media and such the like but that’s also the way of the modern world…I don’t know what the ‘answer’ going forward is because there isn’t one as such, these things have no obvious ‘fixes’….because fear is such a powerful ruler and it’s the thing that is being mentioned most in the thread… people have not ‘developed prejudism’ in their beliefs and behaviours post 911, that surely wouldn’t make sense…what they’ve developed are various fears…and I know and realise that’s being acknowledged also but the labels are still being applied which will in my opinion, only close down and regress further…


Well put Ammi...so true.

[Cherie]

Not be pulled because it’s an old joke that’s been around for years
And I’m clearly joking

Adding Muslim wouldn’t make it funny

How to confuse an Irish man

Give him a spade and a shovel and ask him to take his pick

and that is my point, no one can make a joke about muslim bombers without being called an Islamaphobe? but you are free to say Irish people are thick as a joke and not a word is said ? I dont care you can make jokes about who you like its the hypocrisy that gets me tbh

[Cherie]

btw I am sitting in the sun sipping a vino blanco, its great being thick :hee::hehe::smug:

[user104658]

and that is my point, no one can make a joke about muslim bombers without being called an Islamaphobe? but you are free to say Irish people are thick as a joke and not a word is said ? I dont care you can make jokes about who you like its the hypocrisy that gets me tbh

Who made a joke about Muslim bombers? Who was called an Islamaphobe for making a joke? Is the hypocrisy in the room with us right now Cherie?

I don't think you're thick but you don't half just... make stuff up to support your argument... imaginary stuff that hasn't actually been said by anyone. Maybe a bit less day drinking would help :joker:.

[Cherie]

Who made a joke about Muslim bombers? Who was called an Islamaphobe for making a joke? Is the hypocrisy in the room with us right now Cherie?

I don't think you're thick but you don't half just... make stuff up to support your argument... imaginary stuff that hasn't actually been said by anyone. Maybe a bit less day drinking would help :joker:.

oh now I am a drunk as well...you really are a bitter person at times lol

[Nicky91]

or making jokes about Prophet Muhammad :facepalm: in the Danish and French cartoons


and then acting shocked they become victims of terror attacks



or Theo van Gogh whom made snuff films with a muslim actress Ayaan Hirsi Ali without her headscarf, also was kinda offensive to their culture, which got him killed (not just that but also being a racist towards muslims in the media)

[thesheriff443]

btw I am sitting in the sun sipping a vino blanco, its great being thick :hee::hehe::smug:

You are making assumptions again

Of course I can make a joke about a Muslim being a bomber because I’m someone that doesn’t associate someone praying on a plane being a bomber
Would making a joke in this thread go down well ?, well some would enjoy it but as the Irish jokes in this thread has shown you think I’m using them to dig at you .

I’m not by the way.
I’m happy you are enjoying yourself unfortunately my brother in-laws dad has just died so we are not having a great time

But life is taking the good with the bad

[rusticgal]

btw I am sitting in the sun sipping a vino blanco, its great being thick :hee::hehe::smug:


Enjoy....:love:

[Ninastar]

or making jokes about Prophet Muhammad :facepalm: in the Danish and French cartoons


and then acting shocked they become victims of terror attacks

I hate to say this Nicki but jokes shouldn’t really end with innocent people being killed

Like mayyyybe the terrorists are the problem here. Idk just a guess

[Oliver_W]

or making jokes about Prophet Muhammad :facepalm: in the Danish and French cartoons


and then acting shocked they become victims of terror attacks
Victim blaming :nono:

I hate to say this Nicki but jokes shouldn’t really end with innocent people being killed

Like mayyyybe the terrorists are the problem here. Idk just a guess
Yup.

[Cherie]

Enjoy....:love:



Thank you Rusti :love: I intend to, you never know when life will take a turn for the worst

[Nicky91]

I hate to say this Nicki but jokes shouldn’t really end with innocent people being killed

Like mayyyybe the terrorists are the problem here. Idk just a guess

insulting the islamic religion ain't stuff to joke about honestly

[Cherie]

You are making assumptions again

Of course I can make a joke about a Muslim being a bomber because I’m someone that doesn’t associate someone praying on a plane being a bomber
Would making a joke in this thread go down well ?, well some would enjoy it but as the Irish jokes in this thread has shown you think I’m using them to dig at you .

I’m not by the way.
I’m happy you are enjoying yourself unfortunately my brother in-laws dad has just died so we are not having a great time

But life is taking the good with the bad

Sorry to hear that, hope you and your family are okay, death is difficult at any time but especially more at this time of year.

[Nicky91]

are people also against Cat Stevens then for converting to muslim?

[user104658]

oh now I am a drunk as well...you really are a bitter person at times lol

:think:

I dont care you can make jokes about who you like

Did you forget to write "Unless it's ME :hmph:"? :hehe:

[Ninastar]

insulting the islamic religion ain't stuff to joke about honestly

But making fun of other religions is okay?

You can’t pick and choose who it’s okay to joke about

Either you laugh about all of it, or you just don’t joke about it ever

I know what I’d rather do

[Nicky91]

But making fun of other religions is okay?

You can’t pick and choose who it’s okay to joke about

Either you laugh about all of it, or you just don’t joke about it ever

I know what I’d rather do

no of course not


same how Sacha Baron Cohen makes fun of Kazakhstan with his dumb stereotype ''Borat'' :idc:

[Ninastar]

no of course not


same how Sacha Baron Cohen makes fun of Kazakhstan with his dumb stereotype ''Borat'' :idc:

He’s a comedian :shrug:

He made fun of us gays but you don’t see any of them blowing people up

[bots]

no subject is off limits with comedy, that's the whole point of it

[Ninastar]

no subject is off limits with comedy, that's the whole point of it

Right

And if certain religions can’t handle that, maybe it’s on them

[Nicky91]

Jeff Dunham is funny though okay


Ahmed the Dead Terrorist is a howl :love: that is funny without crossing the line of being too provocative



also terrorism is a sin, also according to the Quran so


i myself do not consider those terrorists muslims anymore once they commit terror attacks, i call them just evil scum and makes me feeling bad for all muslims out there, since they are being seen the wrong way because of what these terror groups commit, also discriminated against etc verbally but sometimes also physically

[Oliver_W]

insulting the islamic religion ain't stuff to joke about honestly

Yes it is.

[Cherie]

Did you forget to write "Unless it's ME :hmph:"? :hehe:[/QUOTE]



the point sailed over your head as per, I will leave you in your meltdown puddle I am sure you will swim to the shore of common sense in due course

[Beso]

He’s a comedian :shrug:

He made fun of us gays but you don’t see any of them blowing people up

Seen a few blowing them off though.:smug:

[Beso]

How did he know which way to pray to?

Does he carry a compass..cause a kneeling muslim fumbling about in his clothing on a plane would make me sweat a bit.

[Mystic Mock]

or making jokes about Prophet Muhammad :facepalm: in the Danish and French cartoons


and then acting shocked they become victims of terror attacks



or Theo van Gogh whom made snuff films with a muslim actress Ayaan Hirsi Ali without her headscarf, also was kinda offensive to their culture, which got him killed (not just that but also being a racist towards muslims in the media)

Are you seriously comparing jokes about Muhammad to someone making Snuff Movies?:laugh:

I know which one that I think is far worse, but unfortunately I don't think that everyone would agree.

[Mystic Mock]

no subject is off limits with comedy, that's the whole point of it

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[user104658]

Are you seriously comparing jokes about Muhammad to someone making Snuff Movies?:laugh:

I know which one that I think is far worse, but unfortunately I don't think that everyone would agree.

Wtf... A snuff movie is a movie that features someone actually being killed (for real) on camera. I doubt they were making snuff movies :skull: :laugh: