The NHS got it wrong - Cass report on Gender Confused children

[Cherie]

Who would have thought that experimenting with drugs on confused children was a bad idea :think:

Children have been let down by a lack of research and "remarkably weak" evidence on medical interventions in gender care, a landmark review says.

The Cass Review, published on Wednesday by paediatrician Dr Hilary Cass, calls for gender services for young people to match the standards of other NHS care.

She says the "toxicity" of the debate around gender meant professionals were "afraid" to openly discuss their views.

NHS England says it has already made significant progress in making changes.

The Cass Review, which looked at gender identity services for under-18s, was commissioned by NHS England in 2020 after a sharp rise in the number of patients referred to the NHS who were questioning their gender.

It was announced after whistleblowers raised concerns about care at the Gender Identity and Development Service (Gids) - which was the only specialist gender clinic for children and young people in England and Wales.

Gids closed last week, four years after it was rated as "inadequate" by inspectors.

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Regional hubs have now opened in London and Liverpool in an effort to move away from a single-service model and to tackle long waiting lists, which are currently around four years long.

Cass told BBC Radio 4's Today programme that clinicians had been worried about having "no guidance, no evidence, no training".

She said "we don't have good evidence" that puberty blockers are safe to use to "arrest puberty", adding that what started out as a clinical trial had been expanded to a wider group of young people before the results of that trial were available.

"It is unusual for us to give a potentially life-changing treatment to young people and not know what happens to them in adulthood, and that's been a particular problem that we haven't had the follow-up into adulthood to know what the results of this are," she said.

In the weeks leading up to the review's publication, NHS England announced puberty blockers - which Dr Cass defines as hormones that "stop the progress of puberty" - would no longer be routinely prescribed, and should only be given to gender-distressed children as part of clinical trials.

Details of these trials are yet to be announced.

Clinics overseen by NHS Scotland can continue to prescribe for children puberty blockers.

Some private clinics will also continue to do so, with Dr Cass warning families need to be "made aware" of the risks of "unregulated treatment".

The Cass Review's conclusions are documented in a 388-page report, which makes 32 recommendations on how gender services for children and young people should operate.

It calls for better research into the characteristics of children seeking treatment and to look at outcomes for every young person.

In essence, Dr Cass says children have been "let down" by a failure to base gender care on evidence-based research.

"The reality is we have no good evidence on the long-term outcomes of interventions to manage gender-related distress," she writes.

She is clear that children and young adults using the services deserve the highest standards of care and research, which are expected elsewhere in the NHS.

Her report adds that representatives from the regional centres should form a national group to oversee ethics, training and to ensure everyone receives "the same high standards of evidence-based care".

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-68770641.amp

[Cherie]

and one of the key takeaways

She says the "toxicity" of the debate around gender meant professionals were "afraid" to openly discuss their views.

[Niamh.]

and one of the key takeaways

She says the "toxicity" of the debate around gender meant professionals were "afraid" to openly discuss their views.

Yep all these people calling everything bar affirmative care "conversion therapy" (which btw is a crass insult to actual conversion therapy on gay people) are responsible for how this happened. Of course all you'll hear is silence on this now I suppose. Thank you to all the whistle blowers and those who put their heads above the parapet though. That's proper bravery.

[Niamh.]

Also :

In essence, Dr Cass says children have been "let down" by a failure to base gender care on evidence-based research.

Evidence actually shows allowing children to go through puberty resolves the gender issues in the huge majority of cases

[Zizu]

and one of the key takeaways

She says the "toxicity" of the debate around gender meant professionals were "afraid" to openly discuss their views.


Yes and possibly the most important one !!


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[Cherie]

It is just a shame that people lost their jobs and were called bigots and worse for simply raising a concern, they weren't saying they were right, they were just posing questions around the issue and asking for a discussion....people will look back on this era and wonder how people with reasonable concerns around safeguarding were bullied into silence simply because of the word 'trans'

[Crimson Dynamo]

Of course worse in North America because there is more money to be made

The doctors in gender clinics transition virtually every child who walks through their doors.

This isn’t a medical industry. It’s a cult. See short video below


https://x.com/BillboardChris/status/1777874999313125490

[Cherie]

Of course worse in North America because there is more money to be made

The doctors in gender clinics transition virtually every child who walks through their doors.

This isn’t a medical industry. It’s a cult. See short video below


https://x.com/BillboardChris/status/1777874999313125490

Interesting video

one of the few things the UK got right, not allowing surgery

[arista]

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[arista]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

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JK :love:

https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1778105223728255439

[Cherie]

In what other medical setting would you see clinical trials rolled out to the general public..kids were basically used as guinea pigs by the Tavistock Clinic, I expect they will be taken to the cleaners in the years to come by parents who were misinformed

[Crimson Dynamo]

SIR – Liz Truss (Comment, April 11), discussing the Cass report on gender identity, is right to call on the Government to adopt her private member’s Health and Equality Acts (Amendment) Bill, so shamefully filibustered by Labour MPs last month, and pass it into law before the coming general election.

The issues addressed by the report are of the utmost importance, and its conclusions and recommendations have implications beyond its child-protection remit. It has the potential to become the light that leads us out of the oppressive darkness of mob-driven identity politics.

I remain determined to vote for Reform UK at the election. Yet this matter is so important that, were the Prime Minister to adopt Ms Truss’s Bill and turn it into law, I would consider supporting the Conservatives again.

Adrian Barrett
Haywards Heath, West Sussex

SIR – It took Dr Hilary Cass four years to produce her review, but she reaches a conclusion that most of us see as blindingly obvious.

Martin Bazeley
Fareham, Hampshire

SIR – I wonder if the treatments and surgeries that have been carried out on children and young adults will, in about 10 years’ time, be found to have caused tremendous mental-health problems for many of them.

Will there be, at great expense, an inquiry that finds the organisations responsible to have been negligent? Will the victims receive compensation?

David Henderson
East Molesey, Surrey

[Beso]

Standing on the right side of history always feels good. Let's hope these kids get the time and help they truly deserve, rather than left wing knee jerking actions.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The fact that this disgusting woman works for a company who fling out the word "Terfs" just wow

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I know Ava hasn't been honest a day in her life, but pretending to be an Enlightened Centrist on the trans issue since the Cass Report was published is really sickening

Those of us who read Hannah Barnes' book, who befriended detransitioners, and who read the studies, were saying that "affirmative care" gives cover to abusers, and leaves comordbidities like depression, suicidality, and autism to go undiagnosed -- with fatal consequences -- for years

For Ava to pretend to occupy a middle ground now, when, until two days ago, she was decrying those criticising the Tavistock model as "transphobic", is unconscionable"
https://x.com/Con_Tomlinson/status/1778706806010728896


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[Redway]

It would be interesting to hear Dr Ramani talk about the cultism behind transitioning little kids. This isn’t medicine. It’s a fraud that’s been allowed to go on (especially in America) for too long. What business has a 7-year-old who hasn’t even gone through puberty waking up tomorrow morning now and saying they want to be a hermaphrodiac computer?

[Crimson Dynamo]

the constant silence from our 2 or 3 "trans champions" speaks volumes

:skull:

[Beso]

I'm a fox...

[Beso]

A silver fox

[Mystic Mock]

and one of the key takeaways

She says the "toxicity" of the debate around gender meant professionals were "afraid" to openly discuss their views.

Doctors need to be brave and say what they really think, or what the facts of the situation are.

If people don't like the answers, then they'll have to cry to their Mother about it.

Because we certainly can't have Scaredy Cats in our Medical profession.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Dr Hilary Cass has decades of experience in her field.
She produced an impartial and independent report that found the NHS has placed trans ideology ahead of safeguarding for Britain’s kids.
What do Channel 4 do?
They dismiss the report as ‘far right’.
Dr Cass has now said she cannot use public transport and fears for her safety.
@joelycett
and his chums ought to be ashamed of themselves.

This is on a MSM UK broadcaster - staggering

https://x.com/darrengrimes_/status/1782007240913809523

[Cherie]

Doctors need to be brave and say what they really think, or what the facts of the situation are.

If people don't like the answers, then they'll have to cry to their Mother about it.

Because we certainly can't have Scaredy Cats in our Medical profession.

I refer you to the post above where a woman cannot now travel in safety

[Mystic Mock]

I refer you to the post above where a woman cannot now travel in safety

I still stand by that the Doctors have to give the population accurate information, they can't be scared because of a few psychopaths.

And the Police should be doing their job, and actually arrest these people, rather than going for non-crimes.

[Mystic Mock]

Just to clarify.

I don't know how accurate or not The Cass Report is or isn't, but if it's even remotely accurate, then it should've been told to society sooner imo.

[user104658]

Just to clarify.

I don't know how accurate or not The Cass Report is or isn't, but if it's even remotely accurate, then it should've been told to society sooner imo.

People have been doing so for years...

They were shouted down by angry people with an agenda and told to shut up because there were no studies and no evidence...

...so a massive study was done and evidence complied...

......and those same people got very VERY angry about that, too, and are attempting to dismiss it as propaganda. Which was entirely predictable, tbh. When people say "you have no evidence of this!" they generally do not want to actually see any evidence. They want the evidence to not exist.

[Mystic Mock]

People have been doing so for years...

They were shouted down by angry people with an agenda and told to shut up because there were no studies and no evidence...

...so a massive study was done and evidence complied...

......and those same people got very VERY angry about that, too, and are attempting to dismiss it as propaganda. Which was entirely predictable, tbh. When people say "you have no evidence of this!" they generally do not want to actually see any evidence. They want the evidence to not exist.

That's definitely Human nature to be like the BIB, going by other topics in the past where some people can't accept that their perception might be wrong about the particular topic.

I've experienced this on the Internet, and a couple of times irl.

[Cherie]

Just to clarify.

I don't know how accurate or not The Cass Report is or isn't, but if it's even remotely accurate, then it should've been told to society sooner imo.

well NHS England and NHS Scotland have stopped prescribing puberty blockers because the long term effects are now known, so I think that is pretty accurate tbf

[Crimson Dynamo]

When people say "you have no evidence of this!" they generally do not want to actually see any evidence. They want the evidence to not exist.

lol like this Green eejit Patrick Harvie...


https://x.com/staylorish/status/1782327879490994390

[Mystic Mock]

well NHS England and NHS Scotland have stopped prescribing puberty blockers because the long term effects are now known, so I think that is pretty accurate tbf

It definitely makes a strong case against the Puberty Blockers, I'll definitely say that.

[user104658]

well NHS England and NHS Scotland have stopped prescribing puberty blockers because the long term effects are now known, so I think that is pretty accurate tbf

It's a well sourced, evidenced and backed up piece of academic literature from respected professional and you have 20-year-old shelf stackers dismissing it like it's some sort of opinion piece in a right wing magazine. And certain media outlets who should know better playing along to pander to an audience. The world really is descending into anti-intellectual nonsense.

I genuinely 100% blame social media.

[bots]

It's interesting, everything these days is done to increase social engagement, and X is right up there in being a culprit. However, with the US election coming up, studies have been done and less than 2% of american voters actually read X, so all their social engagement and hysterics means pretty much f all in the scheme of things.

Where things gain traction is when they hit the mainstream

[user104658]

It's interesting, everything these days is done to increase social engagement, and X is right up there in being a culprit. However, with the US election coming up, studies have been done and less than 2% of american voters actually read X, so all their social engagement and hysterics means pretty much f all in the scheme of things.

Where things gain traction is when they hit the mainstream

It's a lot more complicated than that - people don't have to be ON social media to be affected by the tides of social media. I think of it like an expressway... it allows all sorts of ideas to spread, at unprecedented speed. Those ideas then filter outwards from that 2% into the general population. If you keep your eye on things like Twitter and more particularly things like Reddit, you'll see tomorrow's news years in advance. For example, things like Andrew Tate, Redpill, etc. had been floating around online for literal YEARS before they hit the mainstream. And flat earthers, QAnon, Trump Truthism, extreme environmentalism, gender ideology, etc... you can see it all simmering away in these sorts of channels long in advance of it boiling over into general public consumption.

It's why shows like South Park "seem to have" predicted all sorts of issues in episodes dating back to a year+ before things start to enter the mainstream consciousness. They're not really predicting things. They just have their eyes on the right places.

The effect is that by the time things hit the mainstream media it's already FAR too late. Any reasonable counter-narrative is already on the back foot. The tendrils are already out there. Stonewall and Mermaids was imbedded in the ears of CEO's and govt. officials before 90% of the population knew what a "gender identity" was.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Proof that Childline (@NSPCC) have been assisting Mermaids to develop a
webchat system, to enable them to communicate with vulnerable children.


Childline are ideologically captured and pose a safeguarding risk to children.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GLDk9FKXEAAoIa3?format=jpg&name=small

https://x.com/JamesEsses/status/1779173595060560240

[Zizu]

Proof that Childline (@NSPCC) have been assisting Mermaids to develop a
webchat system, to enable them to communicate with vulnerable children.


Childline are ideologically captured and pose a safeguarding risk to children.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GLDk9FKXEAAoIa3?format=jpg&name=small

https://x.com/JamesEsses/status/1779173595060560240


The Childline founder knew all about Jimmy SaVILE’s ‘activities’ for years and turned a blind eye !

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[Crimson Dynamo]

It's all coming out now ...

"NSPCC pushed trans ideology on children, whistleblower claims"

"An ex-volunteer said the charity ran sessions on pronouns for under-11s which
she felt was a clear safeguarding risk"

Yet another reason we need a full public inquiry into gender ideology

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1782460890299715584/6yxzQfMR?format=jpg&name=small

https://x.com/GoodwinMJ/status/1782462563847987594

Julia Marshall, 62, who had volunteered with the organisation for more than
30 years, warned that it had been “completely captured” by Stonewall, the
LGBT lobbying group.

She claimed that, along with other school volunteers, she was told to ask
primary school-age children their pronouns when delivering assemblies and
workshops.

Marshall, an ex-police officer and mother-of-three, said that volunteers were
put under pressure to affirm children’s choices of gender, even where it had
nothing to do with protecting them against physical and sexual abuse.

She claimed that she was ostracised for speaking out against the apparent
shift in direction.

She had been fundraising for the NSPCC since the early 1990s, but in 2012
she became a regular school visitor, helping to deliver the “Speak Out, Stay
Safe” message. The campaign was aimed at empowering children to
recognise and report instances of abuse.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/309f30d3-625c-40f5-b779-de6c2a38aa39?shareToken=5721d3c04b92079c6e4bc593f1 de8272

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1777021157339795457/LT8NwAJd_400x400.jpg

JK Rowling

'Those still defending the sterilisation and mutilation of children are exposing
themselves daily... it was never about the children for them... The kids were
just collateral damage in a culture war we were told was not actually real.'

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1782665153974046720/umhdwzRk?format=jpg&name=small

[Crimson Dynamo]

The Cass Review looked at the medical evidence on suicide risk and concluded:

“It has been suggested that hormone treatment reduces the elevated risk of
death by suicide in this population but the evidence found did not support this
conclusion.”

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1788923570015326208/28B6vdy5?format=jpg&name=small

https://x.com/SexMattersOrg/status/1788924268920607009

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNOI4tGWQAAojrV?format=jpg&name=small

[user104658]

Evidence is strong that the only reason for reduced suicidality post-gender reassignment (with or without hormones) is catharsis. Suicidality tends to return within 5 years. The argument oft given is that this is because the person is still experiencing persecution and unacceptance -- but that's largely just because people don't understand what catharsis is and how it works, so they don't understand why someone would seem better/happier for years and then have their mental health decline again. It's literally just time and diminishing returns.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Evidence is strong that the only reason for reduced suicidality post-gender reassignment (with or without hormones) is catharsis. Suicidality tends to return within 5 years. The argument oft given is that this is because the person is still experiencing persecution and unacceptance -- but that's largely just because people don't understand what catharsis is and how it works, so they don't understand why someone would seem better/happier for years and then have their mental health decline again. It's literally just time and diminishing returns.

Ruth Hunt of @stonewalluk promoting puberty blockers with the suicide myth in 2019.

“Suddenly Michael who has been presenting as Sarah is being forced to go through puberty… That’s where you see half of young people commit suicide.”

short video here: https://x.com/SexMattersOrg/status/1788932363398910373

shameless pompous charlatan

[Crimson Dynamo]

The below slack (type of private message platform) message about Beira's
Place - @jk_rowling's sexual violence support service - was sent by a staff
member at Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre.

Disgusting that someone working for a rape crisis centre was angered by
female victims being offered same sex care.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOCO6ICWQAAWW6v?format=png&name=small

[Crimson Dynamo]

The worst of it is that AB is female but identifies as ‘non-binary’.

Judge (p94): “Once again, we make the point that AB worked in a Rape Crisis Centre. It is
absolutely clear that they knew that changing their name to a name which sounded male
was going to cause difficulties.”

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOC8YP4WIAAMsHP?format=jpg&name=small

[Crimson Dynamo]

More progress in the USA

"Transition affirmation is not proven to be safe or effective long term. It does
not reduce suicides. It does not repair mental health issues or trauma." Dr.
Andre Van Mol of ACPeds.


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[Crimson Dynamo]

More progress in the USA

"Transition affirmation is not proven to be safe or effective long term. It does
not reduce suicides. It does not repair mental health issues or trauma." Dr.
Andre Van Mol of ACPeds.


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Good now that Elon has retweeted this video

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1799282802103341466

because YouTube have been doing their level best to suppress the view on Youtubes

Thank goodness for X