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arista
08-05-2024, 11:04 AM
another one


Dover MP


[12.02 BST
Tory MP Natalie Elphicke defects to Labour

Tory MP Natalie Elphicke has defected to Labour,
hitting out at the “broken promises of Rishi Sunak’s tired
and chaotic government”, PA Media reports.]

Ammi
08-05-2024, 11:10 AM
…just what Labour needs, a government full of Conservatives…good to be different, eh and give us an alternative hope vote…as if it wasn’t enough that Kier is Rishi in a different outfit…

arista
08-05-2024, 11:11 AM
…just what Labour needs, a government full of Conservatives…good to be different, eh and give us an alternative hope vote…as if it wasn’t enough that Kier is Rishi in a different outfit…


But she views Starmer
as the safe Prime Minister

arista
08-05-2024, 11:15 AM
She took
over from her Corrupt Husband MP
who had to resign.

arista
08-05-2024, 11:17 AM
I assume other MP's may jump
next Weds at PMQ's

joeysteele
08-05-2024, 11:20 AM
Very odd one.
Maybe she was always someone leaning to Labour.

Odd she took over after her discredited husband then has now defected to Labour.

For me, any further lost vote for Sunak's government in parliament is something I overall welcome.

Vanessa
08-05-2024, 11:23 AM
Stamer. Mmm he can't be any worse than Rishi surely.
He's better than Boris, I'll give him that. But that doesn't take much :laugh:

Ammi
08-05-2024, 11:24 AM
…I’ll look her up, in terms of her politics and etc…but I’m fearing that this may be someone that sadly is another ‘career politician’…something this government have had far too many of and something that Labour don’t need at all…if she believed in Labour and Kier then she wouldn’t be ‘jumping’ now after such a bad Conservative Party week of results…/really poor show of her…

Liam-
08-05-2024, 11:31 AM
More tories for the Tory lite party

arista
08-05-2024, 11:39 AM
Same as the MP last week,
she is standing down at the next election.

arista
08-05-2024, 11:41 AM
More tories for the Tory lite party

No Slick Liam
not for long

Both MP's that jumped are
only there until the General Election.
Then they stand down.

arista
08-05-2024, 12:42 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/05/08/13/84609323-13395465-image-m-23_1715170571581.jpg

bots
08-05-2024, 01:44 PM
just doing it for attention. How do you stand out from the crowd if nobody knows you and you haven't done anything

arista
08-05-2024, 01:54 PM
just doing it for attention. How do you stand out from the crowd if nobody knows you and you haven't done anything


Great Points

arista
08-05-2024, 05:40 PM
From the Daily Telegraph:



[The move was also poorly received by
some Labour MPs, with one telling
The Telegraph it was a “f------ joke” and
had “gone down like a cup of hot sick”,
while another Labour backbencher said
accepting Right-wing Tory defectors
was “not sustainable”.

John McDonnell, a former shadow
chancellor, told LBC Radio the defection
“would have strained the generosity
of spirit of John the Baptist”.

Meanwhile, the defection was condemned
by Momentum, a campaign group
on the Labour left,
which claimed it showed Sir Keir had
moved the party too far to the right.

A spokesman for the group
said: “Natalie Elphicke has consistently
demonised refugees and aid groups.
She voted against Labour proposals
to outlaw fire and rehire, while supporting a
wide array of destructive and damaging
Tory legislation.

“She should have no place in a Labour
Party committed to progressive values
and working-class people.”]

arista
08-05-2024, 05:52 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNEn-5EXgAAKAkJ?format=png&name=small

joeysteele
08-05-2024, 05:57 PM
She's only going to be there for 6 to 8 months max.
Then she's not even going to be in politics.

This may even possibly help Labour win Dover in the election.
If the voters there liked her.

Plus it's far better to have another vote in parliament now against Sunak's government.

MTVN
08-05-2024, 06:32 PM
From the Daily Telegraph:



[The move was also poorly received by
some Labour MPs, with one telling
The Telegraph it was a “f------ joke” and
had “gone down like a cup of hot sick”,
while another Labour backbencher said
accepting Right-wing Tory defectors
was “not sustainable”.

John McDonnell, a former shadow
chancellor, told LBC Radio the defection
“would have strained the generosity
of spirit of John the Baptist”.

Meanwhile, the defection was condemned
by Momentum, a campaign group
on the Labour left,
which claimed it showed Sir Keir had
moved the party too far to the right.

A spokesman for the group
said: “Natalie Elphicke has consistently
demonised refugees and aid groups.
She voted against Labour proposals
to outlaw fire and rehire, while supporting a
wide array of destructive and damaging
Tory legislation.

“She should have no place in a Labour
Party committed to progressive values
and working-class people.”]

Upsetting all the right people tbf if the Labour party cares about winning

arista
08-05-2024, 10:17 PM
From reports

Many in the Labour Party
are now asking why Diane Abbott
is still suspended?

Meanwhile, Natalie is now a Labour MP.

arista
08-05-2024, 10:23 PM
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-d19863e3-78c1-4fa6-b6ce-611428a3dea7.png

Crimson Dynamo
08-05-2024, 10:26 PM
she is one of the most right-wing tories

and Labour accepted her?

:laugh2:

how right-wing is Labour these days??

wow

arista
08-05-2024, 10:28 PM
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-c9a4e9e1-1a34-4587-b567-955e5d6ac35c.png

arista
08-05-2024, 10:39 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNFBYz1WcAA8xq1?format=jpg&name=small

joeysteele
09-05-2024, 06:18 AM
She's sitting as a Labour MP.
For a few months.

Then she's gone

I'm happy to hold my nose and see her now voting against the hard right wing policies of Sunak's heartless lot.

However she'd have been better sitting as an Independent.
Although Starmer should look at allowing a certain other to be re-admitted to the Party.
If he wants this fully inclusive line to seem genuine.

Anyone seeing the light of the wrongs of this Sunak government would get a welcome from me.
Especially as an election approaches.

bots
09-05-2024, 06:24 AM
She could have said she is going to vote with labour for the rest of the parliament, which does the same thing and doesn't involve her joining the party.

It's hypocrisy from her and Starmer that needn't have gone down this path

joeysteele
09-05-2024, 06:43 AM
She could have said she is going to vote with labour for the rest of the parliament, which does the same thing and doesn't involve her joining the party.

It's hypocrisy from her and Starmer that needn't have gone down this path

It is I agree.

I've always felt if an MP changes Party they should face an instant by-election.
The constituents should have their say on such a move.

arista
09-05-2024, 09:07 AM
The Left Winger Live on LBC
is debating her.

arista
09-05-2024, 09:10 AM
She could have said she is going to vote with labour for the rest of the parliament, which does the same thing and doesn't involve her joining the party.

It's hypocrisy from her and Starmer that needn't have gone down this path


Very True.


Starmer is using her


I wonder next weeks PMQ's
who the next MP is?
and are they also standing down at the next election

arista
09-05-2024, 09:20 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/2254/production/_133288780_mediaitem133288779.jpg.webp

arista
09-05-2024, 09:21 AM
Owen Jones has done loads of Angry Tweets
but he has left the Labour Party.

arista
09-05-2024, 12:06 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNFljOkW4AA5Y_6?format=jpg&name=small

Crimson Dynamo
09-05-2024, 12:37 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNFljOkW4AA5Y_6?format=jpg&name=small

ouch

arista
10-05-2024, 01:34 AM
Today Starmer is going to Dover
with his new MP Elphicke.

He is going to take £75million from the Year One
Rwanda project.

Ref: NewsnightHD BBC2
Political Reporter Nick Watt


I say

Tubby Starmer in Dover
get him a fat ice cream

arista
12-05-2024, 12:58 AM
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joeysteele
12-05-2024, 01:12 AM
Funny how the gutter Mail wasn't saying any of this while she sat with the more corrupt Cons.

Now she's sitting with Labour out comes the Mail with it's vindictiveness as to reporting

She's a strange one for sure but the hypocrisy of the Mail who'd hide things for Con MPs but not others is equally revolting.

arista
12-05-2024, 08:09 AM
BBC News Text :
[Reports about the new Labour MP Natalie Elphicke,
who defected from the Conservative Party on
Wednesday.
Former justice secretary Robert Buckland has told the
Sunday Times Ms Elphicke asked him in 2020 to
interfere in a sexual assault trial
of her ex-husband - with her spokesperson calling
the claims "nonsense".]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/145e/live/344d1d00-0fde-11ef-bee9-6125e244a4cd.png.webp

bots
12-05-2024, 09:21 AM
and how successful has she been if those were her aims?

arista
12-05-2024, 10:16 AM
Robert Buckland MP
should have stated what she said at the time.

To bring it up now after she has Jumped Ship,
is not good enough.

Soon Matt Tapp
(Labour Parliamentary Candidate: Dover & Deal)
will take her place in the General Election.

joeysteele
12-05-2024, 02:01 PM
Robert Buckland MP
should have stated what she said at the time.

To bring it up now after she has Jumped Ship,
is not good enough.

Soon Matt Tapp
(Labour Parliamentary Candidate: Dover & Deal)
will take her place in the General Election.

Yes he should, you are right.

He didn't though and never would have had she stayed on the Con benches.
So just what does that tell the Country about HIM, never mind her.

bots
12-05-2024, 02:27 PM
I thought she divorced her husband

Liam-
12-05-2024, 03:04 PM
So she did something she shouldn’t have while she was an official Tory and her fellow tories in charge helped her cover it up and avoid an investigation.. and now they think that she’s pretending to be Labour, it’s their problem? I don’t think they know how this works

arista
12-05-2024, 05:55 PM
I thought she divorced her husband


Yes after the prison he served

arista
12-05-2024, 09:50 PM
So she did something she shouldn’t have while she was an official Tory and her fellow tories in charge helped her cover it up and avoid an investigation.. and now they think that she’s pretending to be Labour, it’s their problem? I don’t think they know how this works


Yes but Labour
are not digging it up.


The Sunday Times Reporter
has the story.

Buckland should have brought it up at the time
she told him.

joeysteele
12-05-2024, 10:04 PM
Yes but Labour
are not digging it up.


The Sunday Times Reporter
has the story.

Buckland should have brought it up at the time
she told him.

HOWEVER Buckland didn't because she was a Con MP.

Now she's put 2 fingers up to them though.
He's full of it.

What hypocrisy and deceit.