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Old 08-05-2024, 11:04 AM #1
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Tory MP Natalie Elphicke defects to Labour

Tory MP Natalie Elphicke has defected to Labour,
hitting out at the “broken promises of Rishi Sunak’s tired
and chaotic government”, PA Media reports.]

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…just what Labour needs, a government full of Conservatives…good to be different, eh and give us an alternative hope vote…as if it wasn’t enough that Kier is Rishi in a different outfit…
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…just what Labour needs, a government full of Conservatives…good to be different, eh and give us an alternative hope vote…as if it wasn’t enough that Kier is Rishi in a different outfit…

But she views Starmer
as the safe Prime Minister
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She took
over from her Corrupt Husband MP
who had to resign.
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I assume other MP's may jump
next Weds at PMQ's
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Very odd one.
Maybe she was always someone leaning to Labour.

Odd she took over after her discredited husband then has now defected to Labour.

For me, any further lost vote for Sunak's government in parliament is something I overall welcome.

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Stamer. Mmm he can't be any worse than Rishi surely.
He's better than Boris, I'll give him that. But that doesn't take much
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…I’ll look her up, in terms of her politics and etc…but I’m fearing that this may be someone that sadly is another ‘career politician’…something this government have had far too many of and something that Labour don’t need at all…if she believed in Labour and Kier then she wouldn’t be ‘jumping’ now after such a bad Conservative Party week of results…/really poor show of her…
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More tories for the Tory lite party
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Same as the MP last week,
she is standing down at the next election.
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More tories for the Tory lite party
No Slick Liam
not for long

Both MP's that jumped are
only there until the General Election.
Then they stand down.

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just doing it for attention. How do you stand out from the crowd if nobody knows you and you haven't done anything
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just doing it for attention. How do you stand out from the crowd if nobody knows you and you haven't done anything

Great Points
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From the Daily Telegraph:



[The move was also poorly received by
some Labour MPs, with one telling
The Telegraph it was a “f------ joke” and
had “gone down like a cup of hot sick”,
while another Labour backbencher said
accepting Right-wing Tory defectors
was “not sustainable”.

John McDonnell, a former shadow
chancellor, told LBC Radio the defection
“would have strained the generosity
of spirit of John the Baptist”.

Meanwhile, the defection was condemned
by Momentum, a campaign group
on the Labour left,
which claimed it showed Sir Keir had
moved the party too far to the right.

A spokesman for the group
said: “Natalie Elphicke has consistently
demonised refugees and aid groups.
She voted against Labour proposals
to outlaw fire and rehire, while supporting a
wide array of destructive and damaging
Tory legislation.

“She should have no place in a Labour
Party committed to progressive values
and working-class people.”
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She's only going to be there for 6 to 8 months max.
Then she's not even going to be in politics.

This may even possibly help Labour win Dover in the election.
If the voters there liked her.

Plus it's far better to have another vote in parliament now against Sunak's government.
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From the Daily Telegraph:



[The move was also poorly received by
some Labour MPs, with one telling
The Telegraph it was a “f------ joke” and
had “gone down like a cup of hot sick”,
while another Labour backbencher said
accepting Right-wing Tory defectors
was “not sustainable”.

John McDonnell, a former shadow
chancellor, told LBC Radio the defection
“would have strained the generosity
of spirit of John the Baptist”.

Meanwhile, the defection was condemned
by Momentum, a campaign group
on the Labour left,
which claimed it showed Sir Keir had
moved the party too far to the right.

A spokesman for the group
said: “Natalie Elphicke has consistently
demonised refugees and aid groups.
She voted against Labour proposals
to outlaw fire and rehire, while supporting a
wide array of destructive and damaging
Tory legislation.

“She should have no place in a Labour
Party committed to progressive values
and working-class people.”
]
Upsetting all the right people tbf if the Labour party cares about winning
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From reports

Many in the Labour Party
are now asking why Diane Abbott
is still suspended?

Meanwhile, Natalie is now a Labour MP.
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she is one of the most right-wing tories

and Labour accepted her?



how right-wing is Labour these days??

wow
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She's sitting as a Labour MP.
For a few months.

Then she's gone

I'm happy to hold my nose and see her now voting against the hard right wing policies of Sunak's heartless lot.

However she'd have been better sitting as an Independent.
Although Starmer should look at allowing a certain other to be re-admitted to the Party.
If he wants this fully inclusive line to seem genuine.

Anyone seeing the light of the wrongs of this Sunak government would get a welcome from me.
Especially as an election approaches.
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She could have said she is going to vote with labour for the rest of the parliament, which does the same thing and doesn't involve her joining the party.

It's hypocrisy from her and Starmer that needn't have gone down this path
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