USA: Biden vs Trump (The debate)

[Crimson Dynamo]

:joker::joker:

https://www.tiktok.com/@jimmeskimen/video/7386457119467261226

[Crimson Dynamo]

Three-quarters of US voters say the Democratic Party would have a better
shot at holding the presidency in 2024 with someone other than President
Joe Biden at the top of the ticket, according to a new CNN poll conducted by
SSRS. His approval rating also has hit a new low following a shaky
performance in the first debate of this year’s presidential campaign.

CNN Post-debate Poll

Trump 49%
Biden 43%

Trump 47%
Harris 45%

Trump 48%
Newsom 43%

Trump 47%
Buttigieg 43%

Trump 47%
Whitmer 42%

[Maru]

Literally no one I know is excited about this upcoming election or politics in general. It's as if most are just minding their own business and checking out of the rat race.

Trump, if he loses, wouldn't be able to do another campaign in 4 years time I don't imagine, for the simple fact he really would be too old. I don't think he has Biden's personality where he'd rather run the country living off a vent rather than to pass to someone more capable. He'd just quit and undermine his replacement in a raging (but senile) manner.

Nothing really changes for me, except that one party will be in to chip away at the foundation, whether it's the Constitution or economically speaking, while the other is out of play. We never hear of a politician that believes in leaving well enough alone.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[arista]

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[bots]

Bidens poll numbers have now gone down to 43% against Trump

Kamala Harris is now at 45%

[arista]

The First Sitting Democrat
has asked Biden to stand down.

[Livia]

Trump or Biden. It's like, a rock, or a hard place?

[bots]

at the moment, it's no contest though, Biden will not win. Going by the polls, Biden is losing support, and the whole point of the debate was to kick start his campaign. Trump should be being beaten easily and yet now he is winning, and it is Biden and the dem machine that are responsible

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[MTVN]

Biden now blaming jetlag from a journey nearly two weeks before :umm2:

[arista]

Biden now blaming jetlag from a journey nearly two weeks before :umm2:


It is too late
The Damage is Done

[arista]

Biden wants to do the Next TV debate in September
with Trump.

[bots]

Biden now blaming jetlag from a journey nearly two weeks before :umm2:

for the week before the debate he had nothing on his schedule other than preparation :laugh:

[Ninastar]

One good thing to come from this is that people are FINALLY realising that the media only shows you what they want you to think. It is so easy to be manipulated by the media these days, esp when so many social media sites are sooo clearly pandering to one side.

It’s crazy, I have not heard a single democrat say that are happy with Biden. Literally every single democrat I know is panicking… and I don’t blame them. This is all a huge disaster

[bots]

The problem that the dems have is that just about every family in america will have or have had an elderly person that has behaved just like Biden. They know he is not up to the job. The dem machine is just putting their fingers in their ears and saying no problem here.

[arista]

New CNN Poll


Joe Biden : 25%

Someone Else : 75%

[bots]

there is a meeting going on now about Biden's future, and they are denying that it's happening on the news channels :laugh:

[Oliver_W]

Was Biden checking in?

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5947&stc=1&d=1720025352

[Maru]

One good thing to come from this is that people are FINALLY realising that the media only shows you what they want you to think. It is so easy to be manipulated by the media these days, esp when so many social media sites are sooo clearly pandering to one side.

It’s crazy, I have not heard a single democrat say that are happy with Biden. Literally every single democrat I know is panicking… and I don’t blame them. This is all a huge disaster

More have realized for some time now, I think, it's just the media and politics is intent to make sure we are not affirmed on whether we're thinking the same things or not :laugh: All politics like an easily manipulated populace through clickbait right now because they need someone to spread their propaganda (I don't mean that in conspiratorial terms). It's just really easy to do with the right data scientists and understandings behind user interaction. We make it very easy by sharing all our information in the form of "thoughts", in truth, we're just telling them where our buttons are and how often to press them...

Online behavior loves to follow patterns once people discover them for themselves. Turns out if you just show people a few provocative images and big bright buttons that generate addictive amounts of feedback by way of interactions and impressions, people will happily do that for free for hours for you and reshare everything they see as if it's "new" and "immediately relevant". Therefore, they give that pattern more authority and certainty, even though it's shocking to them. In return, individuals get a sense of relevance and of timing, whether that's to an issue or to a candidate/party. They're being manipulated way more than they are becoming informed.

For offline, the exception I think, is if that person still lives in an area where it's cool to talk about politics while everything burns down around them due to bad policy. Then they really can't avoid it. We could run into people in Baltimore in the streets and politics just comes up.

I'm pleased the temperature has lowered overall so that the default reaction is not outrage. I chuckle when the media has to exert effort into making problems sound more spectacular and insane than they really are. Except the circus is what they wanted. It's all they have cared about for the past 10yrs. There were more reasonable and steady candidates, they didn't give them airtime. So if the govt and media want a circus, then I say let them inherit it. I'm not going to help validate their faux astonishment of things by screeching online about it like we didn't all know Biden was senile... :laugh:

[Maru]

there is a meeting going on now about Biden's future, and they are denying that it's happening on the news channels :laugh:

He's checking his retirement plan and making sure he's all set. I think they all do pretty well after.

[bots]

He's checking his retirement plan and making sure he's all set. I think they all do pretty well after.

what is the reaction from people over there in your world of acquaintances. Have people noticed, do they care?

[Mystic Mock]

Trump or Biden. It's like, a rock, or a hard place?

Too true.

[arista]

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[bots]

The word on the street is he will be gone by tomorrow

[Mystic Mock]

The word on the street is he will be gone by tomorrow

Just like Sunak.

[arista]

ABC USA will have an Interview
With Joe Biden, today

But it is Recorded,
not Brave and Live.

[Maru]

what is the reaction from people over there in your world of acquaintances. Have people noticed, do they care?

People do notice things and Biden's mental status is known, but I'd say most are checked out. We can only laugh. You do get the occasional person that still seems to be emotionally invested in current narratives, especially social media fodder, but it's less common now. Polled husband also and with what he does (works in criminal justice), they do talk politics and it's more or less the same. It really does not feel like an election year. The debate felt a special program, a popcorn hour if you will, but nothing substantial was going to happen. More like a comedy hour or a football game of sorts. "What silly things are we up to now" sort of thing.

Other things I've noticed... more and more people are turning to Local news. They are still through the affiliates, but are usually more subdued and less offensive to the masses. We have about 4-5 news stations here where we are that compete with pretty good coverage and when I do talk to people, they're quoting local and not national. During COVID times, we could walk into a doctors office and other businesses, a national news station would be playing, which used to be reserved to airports, etc. Many more are tuned to local news and even radio and paying less attention to national media.

Corporations seem to have caught on because in shops where political slogans, propaganda, etc were flooding in hardcore through product and displays has died way down. It's not as common now to find anything overt. Even though it's pride month, I've only seen an endcap or two, but nothing that screams at me.

It's more like normal times. I love it. I don't think about politics hardly at all. Nobody seems that stressed about it, either. Yes, things are more expensive now, inflation has fully kicked in, the deficit is worrying. I hear more about local concerns, like the power grid or issues with our water, issues that actually impact people and they feel they have a say. National though? It's not like much can be done about it, so people have accepted their past voting choices and seem to be focusing more on getting their own stuff in order. For example, we lost power for nearly a week from the Derecho storm that came through and in that time I realized most of our neighbors have purchased generators. Everyone seemed much more prepared. The feeling I've been getting when out and about is that people take less for granted, seem less rushed and take things slower, and thus have less to complain about. We still enjoy a decent living standard even with all that's wrong in the world and I think the moaning has really worn thin with some. They'd rather do something about it than sit on Twitter and complain, I guess.

The word on the street is he will be gone by tomorrow

I had this horrible image of a party of interns watching from around a corner for him to walk down the hall so they can jump out and shout "Surprise!!!". Maybe they were going to congratulate him on having a great debate and offer him some ice cream... then we find through CNN later about how his party murdered him. "The last thing he ever saw was his ice cream. He was so happy"

[Crimson Dynamo]

Latest Wall Street Journal poll finds 80% of Americans don’t think President Biden fit to
serve a second term.

[bots]

a CNN poll put Biden 6 points behind Trump, and Kamala 2 points behind Trump so it's not difficult to predict what's coming next, it's just a question of whether the dem machine and Biden are only interested in beating Trump or actually want to cling on to power

[arista]

LBC Live now
Debate on Biden.

[bots]

Biden has said that he won't be doing any engagements after 8pm from now on. Strange timing to announce that

[Ninastar]

That’s a relief to hear… nothing crazy ever happens after 8pm in the USA

[Maru]

Biden has said that he won't be doing any engagements after 8pm from now on. Strange timing to announce that

They claimed it was a joke. They're not wrong. It is all a joke at this point.

This was today:

"Biden's bad week just got worse after he said he was the 'first Black woman to serve with a Black president'"
https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-biden-proud-first-black-woman-serve-white-house-slip-2024-7?op=1

[bots]

They claimed it was a joke. They're not wrong. It is all a joke at this point.

This was today:

"Biden's bad week just got worse after he said he was the 'first Black woman to serve with a Black president'"
https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-biden-proud-first-black-woman-serve-white-house-slip-2024-7?op=1

omg :joker:

[Gusto Brunt]

First black woman. :D

[arista]

On the ABC News interview
Biden refused to take a cognitive test

Taking the test would mean
he would have to stand down.

[arista]

Already on USA TV

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Edits of Mumbling Biden
from the CNN Live Debate

With Trump on the Split screen.