USA: Biden vs Trump (The debate)

[arista]

Could be Chris Wallace again
as now he is with CNN.

It was announced on USA CNN HD Feed



First Debate Live 9PM USA ET

So could be 2AM UK time
Live on CNN HD UK

[arista]

Robert F. Kennedy
is angry that the two debates
One on CNN the other on ABC
will not include him.

Reports there may not be a Audience?

[bots]

trump won't attend a debate, he can't put 2 sentences together

[arista]

trump won't attend a debate, he can't put 2 sentences together

Wrong
Trump has agreed

[bots]

Wrong
Trump has agreed

wrong, it won't happen, wait and see

[arista]

wrong, it won't happen, wait and see

Both are going.

All agreed

[Crimson Dynamo]

Biden made a 14 second video saying he will debate

it contained 6 edits

6 edits because he is unable to speak coherently for 14 seconds

:facepalm:

[arista]

Biden made a 14 second video saying he will debate

it contained 6 edits

6 edits because he is unable to speak coherently for 14 seconds

:facepalm:


Yes he wants to Debate Trump
Trump agreed

[bots]

Biden made a 14 second video saying he will debate

it contained 6 edits

6 edits because he is unable to speak coherently for 14 seconds

:facepalm:

have you listened to Trump, he can't put 2 coherent sentences together :laugh:

It they allowed Kennedy in, it would be a trifecta of complete nonsense :laugh:

[bots]

the whole thing is a complete farce, Biden is in age decline, Trump has dementia and Kennedy had a worm that ate his brain

I don't have a clue who will win the election, but i don't think it really matters, because the result won't be accepted by either side

[Crimson Dynamo]

have you listened to Trump, he can't put 2 coherent sentences together :laugh:

It they allowed Kennedy in, it would be a trifecta of complete nonsense :laugh:

That is bollocks

Trump makes speeches almost daily

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Biden's brain is fried

[bots]

That is bollocks

Trump makes speeches almost daily

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Biden's brain is fried

and there isn't a day where he doesn't end up talking complete gibberish, whith uncompleted words, words that don't exist and then he names people like hannibal lector as the late great ..... having in the same sentence talked about mental patents being shipped in to the country :laugh:

If you honestly think that is normal, i would recommend having another bottle of whisky :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

and there isn't a day where he doesn't end up talking complete gibberish, whith uncompleted words, words that don't exist and then he names people like hannibal lector as the late great ..... having in the same sentence talked about mental patents being shipped in to the country :laugh:

If you honestly think that is normal, i would recommend having another bottle of whisky :laugh:

its you that must be cooked

you said he cant string 2 words together

the video says you are talking crap

[bots]

its you that must be cooked

you said he cant string 2 words together

the video says you are talking crap

if the debate happens and Trump doesn't find an excuse to backout then we will see.

I can see his decline, but i know you maga types excuse anything, so i don't really care

[arista]

"if the debate happens"


Yes it is going to happen
first on CNN HD


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/06/07/21/85858269-0-image-a-1_1717793791743.jpg

[arista]

Biden gets very Angry
Let's hope a medical team is ready
in case his heart goes.

[bots]

the end of june is a long way to go yet. Anyway, if it happens, i will have my popcorn ready, because we know it won't be a debate like any other previously held :laugh:

[bots]

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[arista]

CNN Worldwide
is using Two presenters
Jake Tapper and Dana Bash will serve as moderators



Crazy,
One is enough

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[arista]

Update :



9PM USA , Around 2AM UK Time

Live 90mins
No Audience

Two Commercial breaks
giving Old Biden a chance to take
another pill in the bog.

[GiRTh]

How is it possible to have a debate between guys who cant string a sentence together between them?

[arista]

How is it possible to have a debate between guys who cant string a sentence together between them?

In Bidens case he can take Pills
that get him more sharp.



[Candidates will be given a pen,
pad of paper and a bottle of water.]

[bots]

Kennedy is apparently polling at 15% at the moment and CNN, MNBC and Fox refuse to have them on their channels. If he actually gets some air time, he could win this :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Im amazed the SNP havent kicked off because they haven't been invited to participate

[Crimson Dynamo]

Biden crazy press lady trying to say the TV reels showing Biden freezing were "cheap fakes"

this is how desperate they have become

embarrassing

[Crimson Dynamo]

more freezing here: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13538817/Doctors-reveal-Biden-freezing-episodes-Parkinsons.html#comments

[arista]

Biden crazy press lady trying to say the TV reels showing Biden freezing were "cheap fakes"

this is how desperate they have become

embarrassing


Bidens team will be giving the old sod
Pills that make him Ultra Sharp

He can Stab his Pen in something......................................... .

[Crimson Dynamo]

at it again

so sad to see

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[arista]

CNN HD USA on UK TV
played the 2020 debate of Trump/Biden FoxNewsHD

With Biden saying Shut Up Man!

This Edition next week on Thursday 27th
will Cut Trump's Microphone
if he talks while Biden is.

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQl8Z66W8AAwNG9?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

CNN HD USA on UK TV
gave us more details

Thursday June 27th

No opening statement
2 minute answers
1 minute rebutts
2 minute closing statements
2 commercial breaks




They are stating it will help Biden.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/06/22/05/79579941-13557225-The_34_trillion_deficit_is_is_equal_to_101_233_in_ federal_debt_f-a-12_1719029107456.jpg

Massive Debt under Biden.

[Crimson Dynamo]

CNN doing all they can for the child hair sniffing cadaver

rigged already

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Trump will cancel at the last moment because he will run out of nappies to **** in

[arista]

Trump will cancel at the last moment because he will run out of nappies to **** in


No he is ready

[bots]

trump is not ready, he has his fox buddies preparing the way to pull out.

If it does go ahead, and i've always said trump will pull out, then it will just be an awful advert for american politics and what its become

[arista]

trump is not ready, he has his fox buddies preparing the way to pull out.

If it does go ahead, and i've always said trump will pull out, then it will just be an awful advert for american politics and what its become


Trump will be there Live on Thursday


Biden will be taking special tablets
that keep him alert/

[arista]

CNN HD Inside Politics
showed a clip of him (Trump) last night.

He said, Crooked Joe
is sleeping in his Log cabin.

He said before he goes Live on Thursday
they will give him an injection (a shot)
in his ass.

Then he will be all jacked up

[Crimson Dynamo]

Trump will be there Live on Thursday


Biden will be taking special tablets
that keep him alert/

here is the clip :joker:

https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1804663281807720958

[Alf]

Tomorrow. Late


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[Alf]

So is it gonna be a fair debate? Is the moderator gonna show political bias towards one side?

Is Joe "Abe Simpson" Biden gonna cut iti n debate wit the Messiah "Obi-Wan Trump?"


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[Nicky91]

https://gifdb.com/images/high/hilary-duff-laughing-hysterically-dfco549tr0fcd3x0.gif

Trump and Messiah in one sentence



the big orange moron should be thankful he is up against demented slow snail Biden because otherwise he is very much a sitting duck as well against any proper and sane person

https://booksparks.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/doomed-friday-the-13th-GIF-downsized.gif

[arista]

Alf
one thread is enough

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=391195

[Alf]

Alf
one thread is enough

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=391195My thread is better than yours.

This is the official thread for the debate.

Not long now, about 24 hours away.

Get em' Donny!

[Beso]

A poll would be fair, please.

[Alf]

A poll would be fair, please.Wouldn't be fair on Biden.

Even a far-Left forum like Tibb (that claim they're anti-Donald) understand that Trump is for the best for us right now.

They know he stands for peace in the World. They've all seen that during his time in office it was peace time. But as soon as the establishment is back in, the war and death starts.

[Mystic Mock]

Wouldn't be fair on Biden.

Even a far-Left forum like Tibb (that claim they're anti-Donald) understand that Trump is for the best for us right now.

They know he stands for peace in the World. They've all seen that during his time in office it was peace time. But as soon as the establishment is back in, the war and death starts.

Tibb is not far left.:laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Matt Walsh
MattWalshBlog

The fact that Biden has the mental acuity of an asparagus does present a
challenge for Trump tonight. The expectations are so low for Biden that if he
manages to hold his own, he automatically wins. If the debate is a tie, Biden
wins. It’s like playing one-on-one basketball against a guy with no legs. If he
gets even one basket, he wins, even if he loses. So Trump needs to be
aggressive and go for the decisive victory. He can’t just coast and let this thing
be boring and uneventful. If that happens, Biden wins and Trump would have
been better off not debating. I think Trump will win, but those are the stakes.

[Gusto Brunt]

I wonder if Biden will freeze again. :p

[arista]

Live 2AM -3:40AM
CNN HD Live

Old Biden Vs Trump


I am recording it.

Also on
BBCnewsHD
SkyNewsHD
BloombergHD

[Alf]

Does look a bit weird when you look closey at it.

I'm saying nothing.


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[Alf]

The people's champion has arrived.


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[Crimson Dynamo]

its sick to let him do this

[user104658]

Even a far-Left forum like Tibb

:joker: not in 2024 Alf.

We'll... Actually, not ever, but in recent years Tibb has been heavily right-leaning. Mostly 'cos it's openly dominated by an unchecked right wing troll with too much time on his hands and the staff don't give a ****, and thus, increasingly, neither does anyone else :laugh:.

[Mystic Mock]

It's the Alzheimer's Election.

[Maru]

I wonder if Biden will freeze again. :p

Please wait while the Presidency currently buffers. Do make sure you have the latest Real Player G2 plugins installed so that you will experience the best Presidency possible.

[bots]

Biden looks really old and frail, talks like someone old and frail, Trump doesn't. That's going to be hard for people to get passed

[bots]

it's cringe and embarrassing. Biden had to give up on what he was saying because he lost his thread of thought and the moderator had to step in and pass it over to trump. Trump is coming across coherently at the moment

[bots]

Trump is talking lies and bollocks, but he is doing it coherently. Biden just stands there and looks weak, and his responses are really weak. He isn't making a forceful response at all

[Maru]

It's like watching a fever dream so far.

[Ray.]

For those who bought into the media created narrative that Trump is comparable to Biden as far as mental degeneration, hopefully this debate will reveal that to be the biggest leftist cope of..at least the last five minutes.

[bots]

The Dems have to get rid of Biden tomorrow, otherwise it's going to be over

[bots]

For those who bought into the media created narrative that Trump is comparable to Biden as far as mental degeneration, hopefully this debate will reveal that to be the biggest leftist cope of..at least the last five minutes.

ive watched them both in the past, and Trump does falter regularly, but he has been completely coherent tonight and Biden looks vacant and is mumbling, and there is just no avoiding it, Biden looks ancient and impressions are everything in these contests. They have to get rid of Biden

[arista]

Trump is Live


its on GBnewsHD as well

[Ninastar]

The mini jabs at each other have had my aunt and I dying. Omg it’s so petty

[Maru]

For those who bought into the media created narrative that Trump is comparable to Biden as far as mental degeneration, hopefully this debate will reveal that to be the biggest leftist cope of..at least the last five minutes.

PBD made a good point. If you thought China/Russia were watching this broadcast and were our enemies, who would you think they would want to win? Obviously Biden. So that can very well dictate a lot of people's votes.

[bots]

the weak and feeble voice,the split screen showing him vacantly staring into space with his mouth open :laugh:

He isn't able to put any point across because he is so feeble. I don't know how any democrat can say he is the best option to save American democracy. They are having a laugh. If they don't replace Biden immediate, this is over, over over

[Maru]

"I gave him a country". I don't like the wording of that.

[Maru]

Biden trying to sell inflation as a good thing. Oh Gawd.

[arista]

Biden needs to control his breathing.

[Maru]

Sorry Trump, I know plenty of Democrat POs/LEOs, whom which can be disagreed with and remain sane. It's not useful to overgeneralize.

[arista]

Migrants are Bidens problem

[Ninastar]

Neither of them really addressed the climate change question

[bots]

Neither of them really addressed the climate change question

i can't listen to Biden, no offence to him, but he is rambling, he can't make a point strongly and concisely and i just give up listening in frustration :laugh:

[Ninastar]

It looks like Biden has something in his ear

[Maru]

i can't listen to Biden, no offence to him, but he is rambling, he can't make a point strongly and concisely and i just give up listening in frustration :laugh:

My daughter is busying away dinging on a bell I bought her in the other room where TV is also on and that's about the sum of it for me.

[bots]

i can't see anything other than a trump runaway victory in the election and it's entirely the fault of the democratic party. They interact with Biden on a daily basis, they know he isn't up to the job

[Ninastar]

No one really answered about the fentanyl crisis

[bots]

No one really answered about the fentanyl crisis

trump is just flat out lying and biden mumbles something in response. That's been the same for every question

[Maru]

No one really answered about the fentanyl crisis

I mean, only so much can be done. Usually all people lie on those kind of sugar coater-y questions. "I'd like to create a Disneyland resort to send these people away so they can get treatment immediately and all the pills available to help them beat it, all paid for by their Social Security" ... so basically, our jail/prison system.

[Ninastar]

Yeah, I mean I agree. There’s not much that any one person can do. I agree that this border crisis is horrifying, but I don’t think you can put the blame solely on that.

[Maru]

The CNN people sounded so depressed

[Ninastar]

Well, I don’t think that was terrible

[Ninastar]

Oh apparently Biden has a cold. I was wondering if that was just how he sounded now or not

[bots]

perception is everything, and on that showing Biden is not up for the job as president. I think senior dems will have to replace him almost immediately

[Ninastar]

I’m seeing that the dems are openly panicking about the debate tonight but idk if that’s true or not.

[bots]

i wanted biden to do well, but when he completely blanked out after about 5 mins, it was over. There is no coming back from that. Most voters wont fact check trump, they don't care. They will just see biden crash and burn

[bots]

Gavin Newsom is the name being put forward as a replacement

[Mystic Mock]

I felt like this debate showed that America is in a bad way imo.

Biden started off very slow, and at some points made me very concerned on if he was even going to complete the debate.

And Trump had two issues for me.

1. Getting personal far too often.

And 2. Taking bits of truth and blowing them up into apocalyptic events, exaggerating basically.

The Democrats do want to consider replacing Biden going forward, his condition will only get more noticeable.

[Mystic Mock]

The Dems have to get rid of Biden tomorrow, otherwise it's going to be over

I agree.

It was concerning at some points watching Biden.

[Mystic Mock]

Biden needs to control his breathing.

So it wasn't just me that noticed this.:laugh:

[Maru]

Gavin Newsom is the name being put forward as a replacement

Not a bad option if you want to scare Americans into showing up to the polls.

[arista]

So it wasn't just me that noticed this.:laugh:

He had a cold.

[arista]

At the start at 2:11AM
Trump pointed out How Bidens is putting all the migrants on
medicare,

These costings are wrecking the USA

[bots]

Not a bad option if you want to scare Americans into showing up to the polls.

i don't really know anything about him, i've heard his name associated with controversy, but i have no idea what it involved


The one thing i would say is that Trump is a liar, and a convicted criminal, and that hasn't harmed him at all. Maybe it will be the same for Biden now, and the polls will be unaffected ..... this is all brand new :laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

Trump won't like facing Newsom.

A younger male who hasn't got Dementia would eat Trump alive in these debates.

[Mystic Mock]

He had a cold.

I have been hearing that too.

[bots]

it's a **** show, the dems will need to go through some selection process and it will end up being the most unelectable candidate they could come up with :laugh:

[bots]

a cnn snap poll after the debate didn't show any decrease in confidence in Biden :laugh:

[bots]

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[joeysteele]

Trump is talking lies and bollocks, but he is doing it coherently. Biden just stands there and looks weak, and his responses are really weak. He isn't making a forceful response at all

I agree, with all that.

[Maru]

How are the media pretending they didn't know Biden was senile? Suddenly now the country is danger? Wtf?

[bots]

How are the media pretending they didn't know Biden was senile? Suddenly now the country is danger? Wtf?

it's the democratic party that have been messaging that biden was great, very involved in discussions etc, when it's plain for all to see that Biden is a train wreck. I think the pressure will pile on today because the dems face being wiped out in the house if Biden is on the ticket

The key factor will be party donors. Who is going to give the party cash after that showing?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Embarrassing as expected

Biden car crash after freezing, glitching and talking gibberish

:facepalm:

[MTVN]

For those who bought into the media created narrative that Trump is comparable to Biden as far as mental degeneration, hopefully this debate will reveal that to be the biggest leftist cope of..at least the last five minutes.

That's very true. Trump has his moments but the difference is night and day in a setting like this. Makes you wonder what the heck goes on when Biden actually has to talk to world leaders

[MTVN]

Loved the golf exchange, Trump saying Biden can't drive it 50 yards and laughing away when Biden claims he's a 6 handicapper :joker:

[UserSince2005]

This was hilarious. Trump demolished that senile old fart. Diaper change for Biden.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Trump just released a brutal 95 second ad of Joe Biden's debate lowlights

its a hard watch:

https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1806557731244986521

[bots]

I think he will say he is not running by Monday

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[bots]

Apparently Biden spent the whole week preparing for that debate :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

At this stage now its getting cruel to put him through this

his wife is a bloody doctor isn't she?

[bots]

At this stage now its getting cruel to put him through this

his wife is a bloody doctor isn't she?

phd i think.

The problem is that there have been a group of dems saying he is doing a great job, that he is fully engaged etc, and some of them are still saying it even now.They have obviously been lying, so thats not going to sit well with voters, and everyone could see for themselves what the problem was last night. Trying to say it was because he had a cold is insulting peoples intelligence.

However, the dems can't do anything if Biden refuses to stand down

[bots]

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[smudgie]

Frightening when you see what America has to offer as leaders.
Not that we appear to have a great inspirational choice either.

[Ninastar]

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[Ninastar]

Ugh idk why it looks like that but it is funny

[bots]

this is funny

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[Liam-]

An old man that sounds like an old man, or an old rapist and convicted felon that wants to be a dictator and take revenge on those that don’t support him? A very hard choice indeed

Biden went and did a speech at a viewing party after the debate and he was energised and on top form, completely different to the debate, a bad debate performance doesn’t disqualify someone from the presidency

[Liam-]

No push back at all from the moderators on the very obvious lies Trump was telling throughout, what’s the point of a debate with moderators if one of the candidates has free reign to spout absolute nonsense and get away with untrue statements? The whole thing was a complete shambles

[Crimson Dynamo]

An old man that sounds like an old man, or an old rapist and convicted felon that wants to be a dictator and take revenge on those that don’t support him? A very hard choice indeed

Biden went and did a speech at a viewing party after the debate and he was energised and on top form, completely different to the debate, a bad debate performance doesn’t disqualify someone from the presidency

:joker:

hot take alert


Its not one debate performance its the whole of the last 12 months:laugh:

[bots]

one debate performance does not disqualify him from running, but it does stop people voting for him

[Crimson Dynamo]

one debate performance does not disqualify him from running, but it does stop people voting for him

Id imagine the call for this early debate was the final test and now the dems will do a bait and switcheroo

[Liam-]

https://twitter.com/kaivanshroff/status/1806540745093841130?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

Dem voters are SO worried about Biden

[bots]

Biden lost the election last night unless the dems change something. People can bury their heads in the sand if they like, after all, no need to panic, it's only democracy that is at stake

[Liam-]

People said Bush and Obama wouldn’t win the election based on their first debates as well and we all know that wasn’t true, there’s 130 days until the election, dem voters and Republican voters are already locked in, these 130 days are for the undecided voters, if you think Trumps unchecked lunacy is going to persuade the normal swing voters, you’re naive

[Crimson Dynamo]

and look at the state of the NY Times front page today. Literally got their finergs in their ears saying nothing to see here. pathetic

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRJ7QykWoAAa4vW?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

Live On LBC

Debate on why Biden must be replaced

[MTVN]

and look at the state of the NY Times front page today. Literally got their finergs in their ears saying nothing to see here. pathetic

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRJ7QykWoAAa4vW?format=jpg&name=small

Probably went to print before the debate finished

[Crimson Dynamo]

Probably went to print before the debate finished

Lol, its not 1983

The Post managed ok :laugh:


https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/06/Front-cover-June-28-2024-1.jpg?resize=440,491&quality=90&strip=all

[bots]

People said Bush and Obama wouldn’t win the election based on their first debates as well and we all know that wasn’t true, there’s 130 days until the election, dem voters and Republican voters are already locked in, these 130 days are for the undecided voters, if you think Trumps unchecked lunacy is going to persuade the normal swing voters, you’re naive

Liam, i would love Biden to win, really, i would, because Trump will be a disaster for the world, not just America.

Americans need their leader to be strong and healthy, that's their thing. Trump is no spring chicken, and he is a hateful liar, but he was coherent. Biden just wasn't. Biden blew the argument on all the key points

At the end of the day, it's up to Biden, and i don't think he will throw in the towel unless the party donors reject him. Money always wins at the end of the day

[MTVN]

Lol, its not 1983

The Post managed ok :laugh:


https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/06/Front-cover-June-28-2024-1.jpg?resize=440,491&quality=90&strip=all

As that says it was the 'late city final edition'. Presumably the NY Times posted is either an early edition or they don't produce a late edition

It's still the case in the UK that newspapers go to print by 10pm and struggle to include anything after that

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRJQfYdXIAEJCfu?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Crimson Dynamo]

Ben Shapiro
Benshapiro

The cope is strong with this one :joker:

Mark Hamill
MarkHamill
·

One off night doesn't change the fact that JoeBiden is the most legislatively
successful @POTUS in our lifetime. One off night also doesn't change the fact
that the former guy is a convicted felon, serial liar & adjudicated rapist who is
unfit for ANY office. Period.

[Niamh.]

I pity the Americans having to pick either of them two tbh

[arista]

Democrats
now have the time
to replace Biden.


If they do not,
they are fools

[bots]

The truth is, they need to check on donors and polls over the next couple of weeks. If neither were affected, it will be carry on Joe :laugh:

If either drop like a stone it will be Bye Bye Joe

---------------

Something that hasn't been addressed and is the rather large elephant in the room. Exactly who is running the country at the moment, because it sure isn't Joe

[Crimson Dynamo]

Jill Biden praises her husband as he appears confused and far away on stage at the CNN Presidential
Debate.

“Joe you did such a great job. You answered every question. You knew all the facts.”


https://x.com/OliLondonTV/status/1806659417946898909

:umm2:

actually this an even better view

https://x.com/greggutfeld/status/1806634449351684126

[bots]

Jill Biden praises her husband as he appears confused and far away on stage at the CNN Presidential
Debate.

“Joe you did such a great job. You answered every question. You knew all the facts.”


https://x.com/OliLondonTV/status/1806659417946898909

:umm2:

she probably understands "Joe speak" unlike anyone else in the world :laugh:

CNN did a fact check on both trump and biden. They had over 20 misleading statements from Trump, and 9 from Biden

[Crimson Dynamo]

she probably understands "Joe speak" unlike anyone else in the world :laugh:

CNN did a fact check on both trump and biden. They had over 20 misleading statements from Trump, and 9 from Biden

Trump will be disappointed as he was aiming for mid 30s!

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRIXYmZXYAATKCK?format=jpg&name=small

[Crimson Dynamo]

sums it up..

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRKep19WIAA7y7n?format=jpg&name=small

[joeysteele]

This seemed very hard to watch.
Really concerning.

[arista]

Yes his Wife Jill
knows the truth about Joe Biden.

To leave him as leader
is the big mistake by the Democratic Party

[bots]

we have been watching the dems making excuses for Biden for months, and saying he was very capable etc. If you analyse what Biden said last night, he had spent the week learning his answers word for word and when he forgot a line or something adhoc happened he was lost. Also, because his answers were pre-learned, there were several occasions where he had 80 or 90 seconds of time left to answer, and he had nothing to say. That's just not normal for a political leader. What I also noticed is that Trump went very easy on him, because he knew Biden was damaging his own chances without him sounding overly aggressive

The whole thing raises various questions for me because this was clearly not a one off occurrence. Who is actually running the country now, do people really think Biden is the best candidate to beat trump now, because i don't and do people really think Biden will be able to handle the biggest job in the world in 4 years time?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Even these 2 admit enough is enough

d1xrMBJcYqo

[bots]

haha it seems they agree with me :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRKuK-aXwAANwx9?format=jpg&name=small

[bots]

abSjxbTzNC0

[Crimson Dynamo]

abSjxbTzNC0

Pretty crazy stuff

[Ray.]

https://c.tenor.com/zjIrxpEEKi0AAAAC/tenor.gif

[arista]

Lol, its not 1983

The Post managed ok :laugh:


https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/06/Front-cover-June-28-2024-1.jpg?resize=440,491&quality=90&strip=all


Yes, he needs replacing.


But the Democrats are keeping him
so far

[Gusto Brunt]

I just wonder, if age is unimportant, If Biden had been 93 years old and Trump 91, whether it would still be acceptable for either to be President.

[arista]

President Biden
now in Raleigh, NC

Doing a Rally.

Democrats are keeping him

Live on SkyNewsHD

[Oliver_W]

That piece of mediocre taxidermy didn't do too bad just now tbh.

[Crimson Dynamo]

dont forget the dems have been bare face lying ALL THIS YEAR
pretending he was just tired and or fine

Massive scale deceit to the American people and the left-wing MSM ALL colluded

Chilling deception and lies all now exposed

Thankfully good old LT has been telling Tibb all year that this is who Biden is now - a walking cadaver

[Crimson Dynamo]

and to make matters worse

this is what the official X account for the Democrats Tweeted out today...:skull:

delusion and taking voters for fools...

------------------------------------
Post


The Democrats
TheDemocrats

The winner of tonight’s debate 😎

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F45GGeMXkAAsqPM?format=jpg&name=900x900

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1806703588699255125

[Crimson Dynamo]

this isnt a parody..

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRMBrbqWcAEBVtk?format=jpg&name=small

[Ninastar]

I pity the Americans having to pick either of them two tbh

It’s like in Ace Ventura when he gets the arrows in both of his legs

[Alf]

So the narrative they're going with to beat Trump is "He's lying" That's what I took from it.

If they keep saying that, then they believe people will eventually believe it.

Nothing of what they can offer for what the people want. Just "Trump's lying and you should believe us when we tell you that"

[Alf]

I pity the Americans having to pick either of them two tbhYou should pity Ireland right now, that they don't have a Trump. Your country is brewing for uprising from what I've seen.

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-acf8cd13-a732-4164-8ddf-8f57b145e99a.png

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-fab9f325-6c1c-42d4-9583-6f2077af1ad0.png

[Alf]

I think the reason they had this debate this early was a set up to get rid of Biden.

The Obama's and Clinton's are circling like piranhas.

They wanted Biden destroyed so that they can make their move.

Like I said a long time ago, Biden won't be running against Trump. He'll be gone soon. The guy is obviously not fit to be there. And those people that pushed this, knew it. It was all about finishing him.

I thougt the Donald handled the debate flawlessly for what he was up against.

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-25a15bb4-9c6f-4dfa-8dd7-a96dbaac1eda.png

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-14142395-f56e-4d86-a1bf-0a1df7bad564.png

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think the reason they had this debate this early was a set up to get rid of Biden.

The Obama's and Clinton's are circling like piranhas.

They wanted Biden destroyed iso that they can make their move.

Like I said a long time ago, Biden won't be running against Trump. He'll be gone soon. The guy is obviously not fit to be there. And those people that pushed this, knew it. It was all about finishing him.

I thougt the Donald handled the debate flawlessly for what he was up against.
They want big Mike

[Alf]

Some of you still believe that he got the most votes in history.

Me, I said from the off and I continued to say upto now, four years later, that it was stolen.

Yet most of you still see Trump as the bad guy. Because the bad guys are telling you so and you still believe them.



UJFyYfvsydw

[Alf]

Trump first rally after the debate.

The people know who represents them.


1806823872660197804

[Maru]

I think the reason they had this debate this early was a set up to get rid of Biden.

Well, that failed.

_K4L6o_eQk4

[bots]

Apparently Jill likes being first lady and doesn't want to give it up. You really couldn't make this crap up :laugh:

At some point, people are going to say, hey Biden, you are such a narcissist that you would rather lose the American peoples democracy than give up being president. How is that being better than Trump?

He obviously isn't the best man for the job anymore.

I saw one news channel saying bring in Bernie as a replacement. That goung to work well given he is 82 :laugh:

51 million americans watched the debate

[Alf]

Well, that failed.

_K4L6o_eQk4You seem to be under the misapprehension that he has a choice in this.

The Democract party are about to reveal to you what they think about democracy.

[Mystic Mock]

This was hilarious. Trump demolished that senile old fart. Diaper change for Biden.

I wouldn't say demolish (because I'm not sure if Donald Trump could even demolish Joey Barton in a debate tbh,) it's just Trump is thankfully for the US, less further along the Dementia cycle than Biden.

I still say that Biden had more substance to his points that he was making, he just lacked conviction, and had trouble with his speech.

[Mystic Mock]

People said Bush and Obama wouldn’t win the election based on their first debates as well and we all know that wasn’t true, there’s 130 days until the election, dem voters and Republican voters are already locked in, these 130 days are for the undecided voters, if you think Trumps unchecked lunacy is going to persuade the normal swing voters, you’re naive

I do think that the Democrats will have to hope that more people are preoccupied with hating Trump more than they are about Biden's mental state.

Because like you I do think that Biden will be a lot more in this vote than some people realize.

[Mystic Mock]

Ben Shapiro
Benshapiro

The cope is strong with this one :joker:

Mark Hamill
MarkHamill
·

One off night doesn't change the fact that JoeBiden is the most legislatively
successful @POTUS in our lifetime. One off night also doesn't change the fact
that the former guy is a convicted felon, serial liar & adjudicated rapist who is
unfit for ANY office. Period.

Tbf Mark Hamill didn't really say anything wrong in that tweet.

[bots]

The polls and the donors will decide. If the polls dive bomb they will replace him, if the donors stop giving money, they will replace him. If they remain largely unchanged, they will carry on as before. Let's not forget that Trump is a criminal, and he is still there. These are not normal times :laugh:

[arista]

CNN Atlanta gave old Biden
lots of special help like Cutting microphones

But the failed
as he Mumbled and spoke the wrong words..............

[bots]

CNN Atlanta gave old Biden
lots of special help like Cutting microphones

But the failed
as he Mumbled and spoke the wrong words..............

that doesn't matter. People aren't getting it, unless the polls take a dive, there is no reason for the dems to do anything. Trump is a liar and a criminal and he is still a candidate

[MTVN]

Trump is now odds on at 8/13 to be next President

Biden as far out as 4/1

[Mystic Mock]

Trump is now odds on at 8/13 to be next President

Biden as far out as 4/1

Should I take a punt on Biden?:think:

[Ammi]

Trump is now odds on at 8/13 to be next President

Biden as far out as 4/1

…strangely, someone on the radio this morning was still describing it as being very tight and close…which is a bit of a concern if you’re being described as tightly run with someone who is being deemed as mentally not competent…anyway, 6 possible names that were mentioned in an article of ‘if Biden were to be replaced…’…are…Kamala Harris, Gareth Newsom, J B Pritzker, Gretchen Whitmer, Sherrod Brown and Dean Phillips…

[Mystic Mock]

Americans won't vote for Kamala Harris.

The rural parts in particular don't see women as capable leaders.

[bots]

Trump is now odds on at 8/13 to be next President

Biden as far out as 4/1

it's almost time for me to put a bet on Biden, we just need to see how the next week or so pans out :laugh:

Here is a question. How do the octogenarians in the 2 parties expect the younger folks to get experience if they don't give them a chance. It's absolutely stupid to suggest that Biden is the only person that can beat trump in a country of over 300 million people.

The dems were warned about Bidens age being an issue for over a year. There was a national poll that said that 80% of americans thought biden was too old

However, if the donors remain in place and the polls don't go down drastically, there is no reason to replace Biden

[bots]

another complication is that if the dems do convince biden to stand down, if they don't then pick Kamala as the replacement, they lose access to all the fund raising money collected so far as that was for the Biden/Harris ticket and is non transferable. So picking someone entirely new puts most of the dems in charge, out of a job :laugh:

So Harris then becomes the likely pick, but she has a really low approval rating with the american public, so there is that small matter to consider :laugh:

Really they should have added Biden's dog onto the ticket and gone with him as candidate for president :laugh:

[Ammi]

…here are some of the poll results post debate and post questioning of Biden’s ‘competence’….


https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/


…as I said, I think what’s being lost in this so much as well in the focus being on Biden…is how close it still all is, that Trump really isn’t looking good against someone who is being seriously doubted for competence…what an absolute pickle of choices…this shouldn’t be close at all but apparently it is, which makes Trump also very questionable as to his suitability…

[bots]

…here are some of the poll results post debate and post questioning of Biden’s ‘competence’….


https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/


…as I said, I think what’s being lost in this so much as well in the focus being on Biden…is how close it still all is, that Trump really isn’t looking good against someone who is being seriously doubted for competence…what an absolute pickle of choices…this shouldn’t be close at all but apparently it is, which makes Trump also very questionable as to his suitability…



in a week, the polls may show Biden ahead :laugh:

The important ones are the 5 or 6 swing states. Level in the polls really just means that non swing states will go with current party

[arista]

another complication is that if the dems do convince biden to stand down, if they don't then pick Kamala as the replacement, they lose access to all the fund raising money collected so far as that was for the Biden/Harris ticket and is non transferable. So picking someone entirely new puts most of the dems in charge, out of a job :laugh:

So Harris then becomes the likely pick, but she has a really low approval rating with the american public, so there is that small matter to consider :laugh:

Really they should have added Biden's dog onto the ticket and gone with him as candidate for president :laugh:

https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNnQxYW51aHdnZjRtaW1rcDRuNDJrc2Q 2N2Z4NG14bjV2bXZua3M5dyZlcD12MV92aWRlb3Nfc2VhcmNoJ mN0PXY/JVrpOhjjrNNjUH1sYz/200w.webp

[Crimson Dynamo]

The problem for the Dems is Biden is now the one man Trump will definitely beat

[arista]

The NY Times has
said Joe Biden must stand down


Joe Biden has Stated No
he is staying as President.

[Niamh.]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

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Is Neem having a medical emergency?

[bots]

The problem for the Dems is Biden is now the one man Trump will definitely beat

lets see what the polls say

[arista]

Bill Maher
will be UK SkyComedyHD
on Monday late at night.

He said What about me,
He wants someone to Vote for?

After that debate, he can not vote for
Joe Biden.

That whole CNN debate was set up by Joe Biden.
The Democrats must do something


CNN HD USA Live Feed plays
his HBO Friday show.

[bots]

the dems don't need to do anything, there has been a slight net increase in bidens poll numbers and his fundraising got a boost after the debate.

[Crimson Dynamo]

side by side comparison from 2019 to 2024

:shocked:

can you imagine another 4 years
or even 1 year?

video here: https://x.com/darrengrimes_/status/1807315557689029092

[bots]

in any other circumstance Biden would have been toast after the debate, but these simply aren't normal times. The pair of them are a complete nightmare :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRRUvonbwAAvZ0S?format=png&name=small

[bots]

Someone said that Biden looked like young Mr Grace from Are you being served :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Someone said that Biden looked like young Mr Grace from Are you being served :laugh:

:joker:

https://lthumb.lisimg.com/042/8901042.jpg?width=411&sharpen=true

[Crimson Dynamo]

:joker:

Unbelievable

TkRXA0c4ahs

[bots]

it's not really different to Trump mis speaking or dropping some racist comment or lying. Neither of them are fit to be candidates for president, but they are :shrug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

it's not really different to Trump mis speaking or dropping some racist comment or lying. Neither of them are fit to be candidates for president, but they are :shrug:

:joker:

Get real - Trump does not have Dementia and Biden does

I told you weeks ago what would happen at that debate and it happened

Get over your hatred for Trump and accept Biden is mentally ill

[bots]

:joker:

Get real - Trump does not have Dementia and Biden does

I told you weeks ago what would happen at that debate and it happened

Get over your hatred for Trump and accept Biden is mentally ill

yeah, but he is a lying twat that wants to be a dictator. I've no intention of getting over my hate for Trump, why should i, he is a ****?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Most people missed this at the end of the debate

SHOCKING

https://********************/status/1806701676142694810

[arista]

New CBS Poll
72% say Biden is not Fit to be President

CNN HD USA Live on UK TV
State of the Union,

[bots]

New CBS Poll
72% say Biden is not Fit to be President

CNN HD USA Live on UK TV
State of the Union,

it was over 80% before the debate, so what does that tell you? :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/09/18/01/75540515-12529663-image-a-2_1694998690493.jpg

[arista]

Biden is ready for the next
TV debate in September.

https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/AP24180108688944-1719544239.jpg?w=770&resize=770%2C515&quality=80


Of course, his wife wants him to stay as president
or he will be bugging her 24/7 at home

[bots]

i don't see there being another debate. There is no gain in it for Biden and everything to lose, but then, he shouldn't have done the last debate and he went ahead with it anyway, so who knows :laugh:


If the polls dive and the money runs out and they look for an alternative to biden, then maybe a debate is then important, but there is no point in having an event where biden can't speak and trump spews lies unchallenged

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRTPLReWcAAvcD5?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GROpslDXcAAt_yf?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Mystic Mock]

in any other circumstance Biden would have been toast after the debate, but these simply aren't normal times. The pair of them are a complete nightmare :laugh:

Too true.:joker:

[Mystic Mock]

:joker:

Get real - Trump does not have Dementia and Biden does

I told you weeks ago what would happen at that debate and it happened

Get over your hatred for Trump and accept Biden is mentally ill

Trump does have Dementia.

He is at the stage that Biden was at four years ago, hence the odd and random pissing contest over Golf between the two of them, they're basically people that should be in old people's homes.

[Maru]

I don't know if this thought was ever put forward in the media because I don't follow much atm, but one reason for him not to step down is that it does deincentivize Trump or anyone really going after his family politically or criminally. If he dies in office, even more so.

[Niamh.]

It’s like in Ace Ventura when he gets the arrows in both of his legs

:laugh2:

[bots]

i'm sure there are many discussions going on behind the scenes as to whether it's feasible/best for Biden to drop out. If he does drop out, the pressure will then mount for him to give up the current presidency which would make Kamala the boss

[arista]

i'm sure there are many discussions going on behind the scenes as to whether it's feasible/best for Biden to drop out. If he does drop out, the pressure will then mount for him to give up the current presidency which would make Kamala the boss


https://media1.giphy.com/media/BJEm8B60RASHNnJ9Ac/giphy.webp?cid=790b7611f4hzqkmwfmbcm5xi0gaagvxualv zo01560lztnge&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.webp&ct=g

[user104658]

:joker:

Get real - Trump does not have Dementia and Biden does

I told you weeks ago what would happen at that debate and it happened

Get over your hatred for Trump and accept Biden is mentally ill

Biden does not have "Dementia". Is he operating with the full deck of a younger person? No, he's clearly significantly cognitively affected by age, as all people over about 70 will be to some different degrees (sometimes noticeable, sometimes not)... but I wish people would stop terming every bit of old-age mental slowdown "dementia".

Dementia is a clear and distinct condition. He clearly does not have it. He's just elderly, forgetful and gets confused. Not the same thing.

[user104658]

To add to that, Trump quite blatantly has also slowed down with age too. It's just that he was sharper/quicker than Biden to start out with (and thus it's less obvious) and he's also 4 years younger, which is a lot when you're talking about people of that age.

[bots]

there have been some more polls that have come out that don't paint a very good picture for Biden. The problem the dems have is that if they keep him, they are potentially putting the feelings of an old man ahead of democracy itself. If Biden refuses to stand down he is being just as narcissistic as Trump. Biden should at least give the dems the option of replacing him if that's what they choose to do.

There are so many complex interactions at play, that i don't have a clue what the best path is. Harris is a lot more unpopular than Biden at the present time, but that may change if she becomes the focal point for saving democracy. I tend to believe that would certainly be the case. I think putting anyone else up will ultimately be doomed to failure

[Crimson Dynamo]

Kamala Harris is a liability - Jesus

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1807761917274214899

[Liam-]

There have been some polls that have come out that show he’s making gains and that independents are swinging towards him, the democrats have raised nearly $40million since the debate, half of that coming from new, first time contributors, the panic is completely media driven, the stats show something isn’t matching what the talking heads want people to believe

[Liam-]

The republicans should be worried about the damage Trump’s comment about ‘black jobs’ has caused

[bots]

The republicans should be worried about the damage Trump’s comment about ‘black jobs’ has caused

and hispanic ..... honestly, i don't think they care. Can you imagine what it's going to be like when they start rounding people up. There won't be a legal process supporting it, they will just round people up and lock them up never to be seen again.


There are so many agendas at play, arguments can be spun in any direction for or against removing Biden. From where i'm standing, the vote is either for or against democracy, so it really doesn't matter who the focal point of that is, its the principle that is at stake

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRYMBkVacAAie9q?format=jpg&name=small

[Crimson Dynamo]

Elon Musk

@elonmusk

That almost the entire media repeated the same lie with the exact same words is disturbing.

The legacy news is not merely fake, but also unoriginally fake!

If you want to know the truth, it’s on 𝕏.

shocking MSM lies short video is here: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1807757765655625890

[Liam-]

Biden is old, Trump is old, but he’s also a convicted felon, he’s been found liable for sexual assault, him and his family are barred from heading up charities in New York because they stole from their childhood cancer charity, he’s publicly, specifically said that he wants to be a dictator.

The kind, bumbly old man, is the obviously better choice than the elderly, life long criminal

[Zizu]

Biden is old, Trump is old, but he’s also a convicted felon, he’s been found liable for sexual assault, him and his family are barred from heading up charities in New York because they stole from their childhood cancer charity, he’s publicly, specifically said that he wants to be a dictator.

The kind, bumbly old man, is the obviously better choice than the elderly, life long criminal


Neither would be trusted to run the local allotment so it is unbelievable that one will rule the world soon


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Neither would be trusted to run the local allotment so it is unbelievable that one will rule the world soon


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at least one would not be stood in the middle of the potato drills frozen in a brain fog waiting for his carer Jill to come and lead him by the hand away to the safety of their shed :skull:

[Zizu]

at least one would not be stood in the middle of the potato drills frozen in a brain fog waiting for his carer Jill to come and lead him by the hand away to the safety of their shed :skull:


But the other would have to be supervised if there were any females around ..


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[Oliver_W]

Either one of them could wake up dead tomorrow. I think a Trump presidency would be funnier (like last time) but otherwise I barely care about either.

[Crimson Dynamo]

David Aaronovitch is a leftist "journalist" for The Times and Presenter of BBC Radio 4's Briefing Room

This is what he tweeted today



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRau66IaYAAAsK0?format=jpg&name=small

Can imagine is he wasn't a leftist - imagine he was a Reform candidate tweeting about say Biden, we would have Sunak and Starmer bleating about it on all MSM

2-tier reporting

[bots]

trump has said often enough he is going to seek retribution. He has also preached hate at every turn. He wants those who committed violence and murdered police on Jan 6th set free. Double standards? Are you having a laugh?

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGCz7QgXwAAQBHX?format=jpg&name=small

[Crimson Dynamo]

trump has said often enough he is going to seek retribution. He has also preached hate at every turn. He wants those who committed violence and murdered police on Jan 6th set free. Double standards? Are you having a laugh?

Please do not make apologies for violent leftists like this

Do you not remember David Amess or Jo Cox?

:umm2:

[GoldHeart]

Neither would be trusted to run the local allotment so it is unbelievable that one will rule the world soon


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This

[Crimson Dynamo]

well they wont rule the world - they will just be the figurehead for the USA which is a mid size country in the Northern Hemisphere

[Crimson Dynamo]

David Aaronovitch is a leftist "journalist" for The Times and Presenter of BBC Radio 4's Briefing Room

This is what he tweeted today



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRau66IaYAAAsK0?format=jpg&name=small

Can imagine is he wasn't a leftist - imagine he was a Reform candidate tweeting about say Biden, we would have Sunak and Starmer bleating about it on all MSM

2-tier reporting

oh look this leftist creep was just copying nutters in the USA :joker:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRabV2laYAAfIYa?format=jpg&name=smallhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRabV2laYAAfIYa?format=jpg&name=small

The Biden car crash has got the left out in a panic

[Mystic Mock]

there have been some more polls that have come out that don't paint a very good picture for Biden. The problem the dems have is that if they keep him, they are potentially putting the feelings of an old man ahead of democracy itself. If Biden refuses to stand down he is being just as narcissistic as Trump. Biden should at least give the dems the option of replacing him if that's what they choose to do.

There are so many complex interactions at play, that i don't have a clue what the best path is. Harris is a lot more unpopular than Biden at the present time, but that may change if she becomes the focal point for saving democracy. I tend to believe that would certainly be the case. I think putting anyone else up will ultimately be doomed to failure

I remember during January 6th that there were a portion of Americans that wanted rid of democracy.

[Mystic Mock]

But the other would have to be supervised if there were any females around ..


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And for once we're not talking about Hugh Hefner.

[Mystic Mock]

David Aaronovitch is a leftist "journalist" for The Times and Presenter of BBC Radio 4's Briefing Room

This is what he tweeted today



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRau66IaYAAAsK0?format=jpg&name=small

Can imagine is he wasn't a leftist - imagine he was a Reform candidate tweeting about say Biden, we would have Sunak and Starmer bleating about it on all MSM

2-tier reporting

Well David Aaronovitch is deranged.

[arista]

[Presenter of BBC Radio 4's Briefing Room]

They should remove him
from that job.

That Tweet would have been deleted
I would think.

[bots]

I've been watching how people are reacting to this.

The first point is that the dem machine keeps going back to it was one bad debate and trump is a very bad man. What they are not acknowledging is that it wasn't a bad debate, it thrust a spotlight onto the decline of Biden and his capability to do the job and that has nothing to do with the debate or whether his opposition is a bad man.

They keep saying it was a one off and that he is never normally like that. Well, no-one believes that for a second. They carefully stage manage Biden appearances. If it truly was a one off, he would have been out doing live chat shows with adhoc comments, town hall events, etc etc etc to prove it. No such events are planned. There can only be one reason for that, he isn't up to it.

The dems put out polling numbers of all the main replacements were worse than Biden, but they really weren't, only maybe by a point our 2 and this was the polling before the debate. After the debate, they could easily be ahead of Biden.

The dems are basically telling everyone who disagrees with their position to shut up and get behind Biden. That is a strategy that is doomed to failure. The dems are going to lose the election on the current trajectory, and it seems unlikely they are going to shift from the path unless there is a bloodbath within the democratic party to sort it out.

They keep saying that Reagan and Obama had very bad first debates and still won, but both of them were miles ahead in the polls at the time, Biden was already behind in the polls. That's why it was agreed to do the debate in the first place. It was to change the course of the campaign and put Biden on a winning trajectory. You won't hear any of the dem elites saying that now

The only people that Biden seems to listen to for advice are his wife and Hunter. Are they effectively running the presidency?, because that is what it implies

[hijaxers]

[Presenter of BBC Radio 4's Briefing Room]

They should remove him
from that job.

That Tweet would have been deleted
I would think.

Agreed but this is the BBC ! more likely a promotion ..

[Beso]

King of immunity.

[bots]

With the supreme court on Trump's side, it doesn't now even matter who "wins" the election. He will just appeal it up to the supreme court and they will side with him. So whoever ends up being the dem candidate has lost before a vote is counted

[Liam-]

It only goes to the Supreme Court if the election ends in a tie, if (when) Trump loses the election decisively again, there will be no grounds for it to be appealed

[bots]

It only goes to the Supreme Court if the election ends in a tie, if (when) Trump loses the election decisively again, there will be no grounds for it to be appealed

thats not true, it can go to the supreme court if they claim fraud etc. However, Biden can now commit fraud and be immune, so it's all gone to crazy town.

I think americans need to wake up to the reality that trump is more likely to be the next president than not

[James]

The difference to 2020 is that if Trump loses this time he will have nothing to hang on to.

[Oliver_W]

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