England Vs Spain Sunday 14/7/24 8PM [Was England - Slovakia, England - Switzerland]

[arista]

Who will Win?

[MTVN]

Let's goooooooo

[Beso]

Looking forward to it.

Cmon England.

[bots]

luke shaw is apparently fit now

[arista]

On BBC1HD now

[Zizu]

luke shaw is apparently fit now


Though not selected

We move Saka out of position to accommodate Foden as right of front 3 ( effectively)

Trippier instead of TAA at RWB is criminal

Why not play Palmer and give Foden a reset given he’s done NOTHING in 4 matches !

Palmer has offered more in his few minutes as substitute !!

Even worse I fear that when the first substitution comes along at 80th minute he will put on Bowen instead of Palmer !

This photo shows Palmer looking thoughtfully at an approaching Southgate talking one on one with Bowen

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[Zizu]

Again the leak was 100% correct


Why does this only happen to us !!!
How weak does Southgate look for entertaining the constant leaks !

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[Crimson Dynamo]

3-4-2-1

[Zizu]

We change to match a system that they have been playing SUCCESSFULLY for years I whilst we have always struggled with 3 at the back !

He hasn’t even picked the best options for the system !


All their players are playing extremely well and they look good to watch whilst only one of our has beenn decent ( he doesn’t play today)

I’m seeing a 3:0 win to the Swiss

Shut the door on your way out, Gareth


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[Zizu]

3-4-2-1


The Southgate version is 3 - 7

( that could also be the score oddly)


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[Zizu]

Looking forward to it.

Cmon England.


I hope we smash them but then I hope we win the lottery twice a week


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[Nicky91]

Switzerland

i also have enjoyed watching them this tournament so far



Yakin also dares to bench Shaqiri in favor of a better quality team

[Zizu]

Switzerland

i also have enjoyed watching them this tournament so far



Yakin also dares to bench Shaqiri in favor of a better quality team


The Swiss supposedly cheered wildly when England got through to face them as they see us as being far easier to play against and beat !!


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[Nicky91]

The Swiss supposedly cheered wildly when England got through to face them as they see us as being far easier to play against and beat !!


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of course


Southgate the Clown is england's own worst enemy, not which opponents they face



but yeah keep playing grandpa Kane :laugh2:

[Nicky91]

but maybe oversexed Bellingham can save Gareth's arse again in a 90+6 or 90+7

:fan:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Come on proper performance please

[Zizu]

Interesting
Swiss plays a team of in form players - no change

Southgate plays a team of out of form players- one enforced change


See the problem !!


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[Nicky91]

Murat Yakin a tactical genius

Gareth Southgate a tactical moron


see the problem !!

[Zizu]

Southgate’s masterstroke is no change


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[Nicky91]

Southgate’s masterstroke is no change


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against England, i see chances for my nation Netherlands, within 90 minutes


against Switzerland, we might go to penalties maybe




i don't rate England high at all, just made it this far having some luck on their side

[bots]

the swiss look very threatening when they go forward

[Zizu]

Turn the sound off and its like watching Liverpool playing Luton


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[Nicky91]

yeah but https://media4.giphy.com/media/3o6Mv7lgpAvsGjm1Gg/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b952w9eyldd2rnw7ct84ocolrdywh5pe k40draan5y3k&ep=v1_internal_gif_by_id&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g


england's arrogance truly stinks, Southgate: winning the euro's is more than about tactics

[Zizu]

Encouraging …


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[Nicky91]

i myself am not arrogant, i only recently began believing in Koeman's Oranje


that 3-0 vs Romania fully convinced me we can also beat the turkish b squad

[Zizu]

Foden hits the ball 44 yards back to Konsa then puts his hands up asking for the pass !!



What the actual fcuk !!


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[Zizu]

Oh so we are Watford now … except we don’t have a Luther Blissett


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[Zizu]

Walker buying a foul - one of his strengths


Cheating


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[Zizu]

Mainoo looks decent


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[Nicky91]

that was no penalty


i agree Orsato



Grandpa Kane should not moan there, try to be more of a teamplayer, oh wait then you have to get out of the 16 every once and a while LOL which he can't :joker:

[Zizu]

Their manager plays chess

Southgate plays hopscotch


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[Nicky91]

remember when everyone on this forum predicted england to win this easily

:fan:


i bet none of them have actually watched every swiss game so far then

[Zizu]

Xhaka is the most assured / composed player on view


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[Zizu]

What a load of bollox


England corner .. all the big guys waiting

So we do a short corner and pass it back to Pickford


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[Zizu]

Mainoo , Konsa and Saka looking decent


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[bots]

mainoo is playing well

[Zizu]

I would swap Kane , Foden and Trippier off

TAA , Palmer and Toney in


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[Zizu]

Foden kicks the ball out of play then claims the throw !!?

What is this cheating mentality we now have ?


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[Zizu]

Our future back three should be Konsa / Guihi / Quansah


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[Zizu]

Our future back three should be Konsa / Guihi / Quansah


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With Mainoo and Wharton together just ahead

Dispense with Rice ( supersub)


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[Zizu]

That looked like a shove on Saka !!
Penalty ?


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[GiRTh]

Not as bad a last time but still a long way.

Go to laugh at all the people who like to write off Saka. He's been England's best player by miles and if Kane can get off his asre England would be ahead.

[Zizu]

Typical borefest

We are now a long ball team


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[Swan]

Yeah not bad, but no threat in front of goal so far

[Zizu]

Not as bad a last time but still a long way.

Go to laugh at all the people who like to write off Saka. He's been England's best player by miles and if Kane can get off his asre England would be ahead.


The pundits are raving about our performance
and Foden in particular

What has he actually done apart from receiving the ball neatly and usually passes backwards


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[GiRTh]

BBC panel seem to think England are playing well. What are they watching?

[Zizu]

At least we are seeing fewer and fewer female pundits on these crucial games ..


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[Zizu]

BBC panel seem to think England are playing well. What are they watching?


Probably the FA have leaned on the BEEB


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Mainoo and Saka have been best

[bots]

BBC panel seem to think England are playing well. What are they watching?

england are just cancelling the swiss out. Kane has been completely out of position. He should be up front creating space for the others to play in to

[Swan]

My first memory of any Euro's was 96, this has easily been the most boring Euro's of my life time.

[Zizu]

My first memory of any Euro's was 96, this has easily been the most boring Euro's of my life time.


Agreed — plus the box ticking female pundits and commentators ruin every game they do

Thankfully Spain have been fabulous to watch


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[Vanessa]

Come on England. Really rooting for them :dance:

[bots]

My first memory of any Euro's was 96, this has easily been the most boring Euro's of my life time.

the one where greece won was exceedingly boring, same goes when portugal won. It's actually rare that they are not boring :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

This is once again an awful watch

[Zizu]

Just showed then Saka could easily play left back or LWB


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[Zizu]

This is once again an awful watch


They are making two subs


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[bots]

Kane is the problem in this match

[Zizu]

Get Kane Rice and Trippier off

TAA Palmer and Toney on

Soon


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[Zizu]

Kane is the problem in this match


He doesn’t look fit at all


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[Zizu]

England looking tired and leggy

No subs as usual


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[GiRTh]

What is Southgate waiting for with substitutions.

[Zizu]

What is Southgate waiting for with substitutions.


He’s clueless

Always has been as regards tactics


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[Zizu]

Why dont they keep Southgate on and get a tactically aware assistant ??


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[GiRTh]

This is once again an awful watch
This.

[GiRTh]

He’s clueless

Always has been as regards tactics


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProAgree, he's clueless and his lack of changes makes it obvious.

[GiRTh]

:dance:

Thats it cant see England coming back

[Swan]

Rubbish

[bots]

boom

[Zizu]

Southgate has had a 100 games to get us to …. this


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[GiRTh]

England have gone behind twice now and jus after the manager makes a change.

[Zizu]

Now he considers a substitute


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[bots]

england will equalise in the last minute with their first shot on goal :laugh:

[GiRTh]

Now he considers a substitute


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProAnd he doesn't seem to realise that it makes him look clueless.

Why is he taking Mainoo off and Bellingham

[bots]

is bellingham refusing to go off? :laugh:

[GiRTh]

SO not Bellingham coming off

[Zizu]

Why take Mainoo off


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[Zizu]

We cant even get the shirt numbers right


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[Zizu]

So he’s taken off our best two players on the day ?


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[bots]

boom boom

[GiRTh]

I dare anyone ever criticise Saka. Drop him for Palmer. Why the ****** would you do that.

[Vanessa]

Saka scored! Wooooooo

[Vanessa]

I dare anyone ever criticise Saka. Drop him for Palmer. Why the ****** would you do that.

He's brilliant!

[bots]

I dare anyone ever criticise Saka. Drop him for Palmer. Why the ****** would you do that.

:joker:

Saka always puts a shift in

[Zizu]

Whooooooo

Just hope VAR doesn’t take it off


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[Swan]

I dare anyone ever criticise Saka. Drop him for Palmer. Why the ****** would you do that.

It's not about who's better tbf, i'd always play Saka, i just feel he should fit Palmer in the team from the start.

Not over Saka, i should add. Play them both

[Zizu]

We are never gonna get rid of Southgate are we


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[Zizu]

It's not about who's better tbf, i'd always play Saka, i just feel he should fit Palmer in the team from the start.


100%

Instead of Foden


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[GiRTh]

It's not about who's better tbf, i'd always play Saka, i just feel he should fit Palmer in the team from the start.

Not over Saka, i should add. Play them bothI agree but this is Southgate. Getting Palmer and Saka in the same team would require some imagination from him

[Crimson Dynamo]

Foden habeen utter sh1te in the last 5 games

[Zizu]

Foden habeen utter sh1te in the last 5 games


He’s not pressing and never makes a tackle anyway


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[Zizu]

Foden just realised we are close to penalties so he’s developed a limp

:)


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[Cherie]

Get Foden off

[arista]

ET still 1-1

7mins

[Zizu]

Get Foden off


I reckon Foden doesn’t tackle as you risk getting yellow cards and missing games


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[Zizu]

ET still 1-1

7mins


We need to get Toney on plus two other decent penalty takers


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[arista]

Another final 15mins Extra Time

[Zizu]

We shouldn’t be struggling against the Swiss who have a tiny talent pool


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[Zizu]

Southgate is going to compound TAA’s tournament embarrassment by making him take ( and probably miss) a penalty ..


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[Crimson Dynamo]

We shouldn’t be struggling against the Swiss who have a tiny talent pool


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Slightly bigger than Scotland

[Zizu]

Please make it end


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[arista]

Times Up.

Down to Penalty Takers

[Zizu]

That looked a certain penalty

He clearly barged into Toney !!

What is VAR doing !!!!?


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[Vanessa]

Penalties! Oh no!

[Zizu]

Toney and Palmer never miss

Foden would have been good as well but only Southgate knows why. ..


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[Vanessa]

Saved! Aaaaah

[Vanessa]

Get in there! Yay

[Zizu]

Apparently the teams don’t have to line up on the halfway line

They can all stand on the penalty box line


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[Vanessa]

Omg omg omg yes!

[arista]

Omg omg omg yes!


Toney Wins

[Vanessa]

OMFG we're through! Wooooooo :dance::cheer2:

[arista]

Next on Wednesday

[Zizu]

Right

Southgate had better not start with same starting eleven or I will be proper vexed and a letter will be sent by pigeon to someone


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[Vanessa]

This England team is making me so happy :bawling:
Semifinals. I can't believe it!

[Crimson Dynamo]

England would never have won that shoot out under the Tories

[arista]

Weds Netherlands or Turkey?

[Vanessa]

That was so tense. I'm a nervous wreck :joker:

[Livia]

Saka, man of the match. He's the man of every match as far as I'm concerned.

[Cherie]

Saka, man of the match. He's the man of every match as far as I'm concerned.

So pleased for him especially after the last Euros

[Cherie]

Right

Southgate had better not start with same starting eleven or I will be proper vexed and a letter will be sent by pigeon to someone


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:joker:

[Vanessa]

So pleased for him especially after the last Euros

He was brilliant tonight :clap1:

[rusticgal]

Saka, man of the match. He's the man of every match as far as I'm concerned.


I love him…I can’t watch penalties with England. Sat on my balcony and let my husband update :laugh:

[Zizu]

Weds Netherlands or Turkey?


One thing for certain we see a match with much better football than the one we’ve just had to endure


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[Vanessa]

I love him…I can’t watch penalties with England. Sat on my balcony and let my husband update :laugh:

They were all great, including Pickford :flutter:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Liniker praising Kane who was abysmal, thick goon Rio saying it was a positive performance. The worst pundits ever

[Zizu]

They were all great, including Pickford :flutter:


Kane was dire
Walker poor
Trippier poor
Foden flatters to deceive


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[Swan]

Palmer and Saka can play together, no doubt about it. GS needs to drop Foden, start Palmer instead.

We were poor, like we have been all tournament, but we scraped through. However, bar Saka being our saviour, and easily our best player, we look so poor. Spain will destroy us if they overcome the boring wall of France, and we can beat the winner of this game playing now.

[bots]

i thought foden and Saka were good today. I believe the biggest problem is Kane getting in the way of the other players and forcing them out of position

[Zizu]

Palmer and Saka can play together, no doubt about it. GS needs to drop Foden, start Palmer instead.

We were poor, like we have been all tournament, but we scraped through. However, bar Saka being our saviour, and easily our best player, we look so poor. Spain will destroy us if they overcome the boring wall of France, and we can beat the winner of this game playing now.


Agreed


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Foden was mince as usual, 5 games in a row. He is stealing a place

Kane is an actual liability

[Cherie]

Kane was terrible, is he unwell, he was sweating abnormally and I think he ran into the dug out and fell over on purpose to get taken off :laugh:

[Alf]

Kane was dire
Walker poor
Trippier poor
Foden flatters to deceive


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProWhy do you watch football? It seems to make you miserable.

England are unbeaten in the tournament and are still alive into the semi-finals. Yet every single post of yours is negative and making out that it's disastrous.

What would you have done if we'd have lost our 3 group games and already be out?

[AnnieK]

I love him…I can’t watch penalties with England. Sat on my balcony and let my husband update :laugh:

I'm the same, my son gave me running commentry whilst I hid in the kitchen :laugh:

[Vanessa]

Kane was dire
Walker poor
Trippier poor
Foden flatters to deceive


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I mean at the penalties :laugh:

[GiRTh]

Why do you watch football? It seems to make you miserable.

England are unbeaten in the tournament and are still alive into the semi-finals. Yet every single post of yours is negative and making out that it's disastrous.

What would you have done if we'd have lost our 3 group games and already be out?I'd have celebrated the end of the Southgate administration.

Southgate's tactics come from another decade, he takes too long to make subs, and he's relying on his great players to get him out of trouble. Once again they did. That cant last.

He's had 100 games in charge now and we still act like he's some kind of novice and we should just be happy to be in the competition

[Alf]

I'd have celebrated the end of the Southgate administration.

Southgate's tactics come from another decade, he takes too long to make subs, and he's relying on his great players to get him out of trouble. Once again they did. That cant last.

He's had 100 games in charge now and we still act like he's some kind of novice and we should just be happy to be in the competitionBut his tactics have done well throughout his tenure.

He's qualified for every tournament they've entered. He's reached the last 4 countries in the World at a World Cup. He reached the last 2 countries in Europe last Euros. And he's reached the last 4 countries in Europe again this time. Still with the opportunity to improve on that position.

He's surpassed any other English manager in history besides Sir Alf who won a tournament. But even he failed to qualify for the 74 World Cup.

As an Arsenal fan, you should know from the George Graham days, that you don't have to be the most attractive team to be successful.

[GiRTh]

But his tactics have done well throughout his tenure.

He's qualified for every tournament they've entered. He's reached the last 4 countries in the World at a World Cup. He reached the last 2 countries in Europe last Euros. And he's reached the last 4 countries in Europe again this time. Still with the opportunity to improve on that position.

He's surpassed any other English manager in history besides Sir Alf who won a tournament. But even he failed to qualify for the 74 World Cup.

As an Arsenal fan, you should know from the George Graham days, that you don't have to be the most attractive team to be successful.All of what you've said is true.

The problem is him. He doesn't talk or act like an elite manager. The Kalvin Phillips comment sums up my point.

When you hear Pep talk he is never too far from talking about how to make the team better. Pass better, defend better etc. GS talking about a player who, I'd say, was never a stand out player like he's prime Steven Gerrard tells me GS is not about 'better'. Its all very safe, which is fine in the group stage and the qualifiers, but when you get to the show you've got to put on a show. :laugh: He's doesnt see this at all and its like he's too scared to go for it.

I could go on and explain further that his loyalty to players like Phillips, Maguire, Henderson etc also makes my point. He's exactly like how I'd expect say Graham Potter to be as England manager and I'm no fan of his.

GS could go on to win this but it wont be down to him, it'll be the players who change things to win a game.

I remember, on here, you were quite disappointed after the Italy final you mentioned. What happened. How did the deep state get to you. :laugh:

[Alf]

All of what you've said is true.

The problem is him. He doesn't talk or act like an elite manager. The Kalvin Phillips comment sums up my point.

When you hear Pep talk he is never too far from talking about how to make the team better. Pass better, defend better etc. GS talking about a player who, I'd say, was never a stand out player like he's prime Steven Gerrard tells me GS is not about 'better'. Its all very safe, which is fine in the group stage and the qualifiers, but when you get to the show you've got to put on a show. :laugh: He's doesnt see this at all and its like he's too scared to go for it.

I could go on and explain further that his loyalty to players like Phillips, Maguire, Henderson etc also makes my point. He's exactly like how I'd expect say Graham Potter to be as England manager and I'm no fan of his.

GS could go on to win this but it wont be down to him, it'll be the players who change things to win a game.

I remember, on here, you were quite disappointed after the Italy final you mentioned. What happened. How did the deep state get to you. :laugh:Of course I was unhappy. We didn't win that one. Still took it to a penalty shoot-out though. His tactics still got him that far.

I was disappointed for the way we just went into all out defense at such an early stage of the game, just because we scored early. So on that occasion, his tactics didn't work, and we got beat for it.

It's much better to critise failure rather than success.

[GiRTh]

Of course I was unhappy. We didn't win that one. Still took it to a penalty shoot-out though. His tactics still got him that far.

I was disappointed for the way we just went into all out defense at such an early stage of the game, just because we scored early. So on that occasion, his tactics didn't work, and we got beat for it.

It's much better to critise failure rather than success.True but it depends on what we define as success.

I remember you being quite critical, cheers for acknowledging that, I was not sure but was kind of confident I recall you were disappointed. I also appreciate your reasons. :wavey:

I think its gonna be the same though. I cant see this manager doing what he needs to do

[MTVN]

Get in!! Absolutely buzzing

Bollocks to the haters, we're going all the way!

[MTVN]

Armchair managers and navel gazers in the bin

Get back to playing football manager

[arista]

Weds England Play Netherlands

[arista]

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[arista]

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[GiRTh]

Armchair managers and navel gazers in the bin

Get back to playing football manager:laugh::laugh:

You're right.

Get in lads. Have it. Roy of the Rovers. :thumbs:

[MTVN]

C'mon Girth you've gotta allow yourself a bit of hope at a time like this!

[Zizu]

But his tactics have done well throughout his tenure.

He's qualified for every tournament they've entered. He's reached the last 4 countries in the World at a World Cup. He reached the last 2 countries in Europe last Euros. And he's reached the last 4 countries in Europe again this time. Still with the opportunity to improve on that position.

He's surpassed any other English manager in history besides Sir Alf who won a tournament. But even he failed to qualify for the 74 World Cup.

As an Arsenal fan, you should know from the George Graham days, that you don't have to be the most attractive team to be successful.


We are qualifying easily and reaching semifinals DESPITE Gareth Southgate !


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[Niamh.]

I think you all need to eat your memes and thank poor Gareth

[Mystic Mock]

England would never have won that shoot out under the Tories

:laugh:

Don't forget Blues possible promotion back to the Championship wouldn't even be up for discussion under the Tories.

And Rangers stopping Brendan Rodgers happening this season coming up.:dance:

[Mystic Mock]

One thing for certain we see a match with much better football than the one we’ve just had to endure


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You were definitely right about that.

And I know that people will just be happy with the results in the England and France camps, but I do feel sorry for the fans of both teams that traveled to Germany in the hopes of being entertained by their teams, and this is the quality of entertainment that they've put on show for their fans.

Plus Football is meant to be an entertainment product, UEFA should be alarmed at how two really boring teams could possibly meet each other for the final.

I'm happy that England have gone through obviously, but we do need to be more entertaining to watch.

[Mystic Mock]

We are qualifying easily and reaching semifinals DESPITE Gareth Southgate !


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Tbf Southgate is the only England Manager to consistently get England deep into major competitions, so he does deserve some credit.

And without meaning to single Sven out, but his team did worse with much better players than what Southgate has currently got.

[Zizu]

Tbf Southgate is the only England Manager to consistently get England deep into major competitions, so he does deserve some credit.

And without meaning to single Sven out, but his team did worse with much better players than what Southgate has currently got.


Maybe someone should start a thread comparing the two teams/ squads ?


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[Zizu]

A caller to TalkSport radio from Germany where he and his mates have been to all 5 England games described the experience …,


Well we are just doing enough to win games but it’s not exactly enjoyable - it feels like we’re dragging a corpse around !!



I reckon he nailed it !!!

I dread each game now - partly because we are so bad to watch ( bearing in mind by default I just watch teams who are pleasing on the eye like Barca, Arsenal, Liverpool and Spurs) - England are turgid at best !



Also there’s the the added stress of wanting him to play the more gifted players like TAA and Palmer plus being desperate for us to win knowing that it will keep Southgate in a job !!


Aghhhh!!!


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[Nicky91]

Tbf Southgate is the only England Manager to consistently get England deep into major competitions, so he does deserve some credit.

And without meaning to single Sven out, but his team did worse with much better players than what Southgate has currently got.

its more luck than something else LOL, also my choice of foreign manager is a good one though, Galtier is a quality manager who also looks more at the team than big name stars (he even benched Messi, Neymar at PSG)



Swiss had bad luck with Akanji's horribly taken penalty (and that plays for Man City can you imagine)


the penalty strategic subs for Switzerland were done properly by Yakin, yet also not giving up on the match to try and finish it in extra time


Swiss played an excellent tournament to get this far to quarter finals

[Crimson Dynamo]

France have played three of the seven highest-ranked countries in world football. The
Swiss, rated 19th in the world, are the highest ranked England have played so far.

[Alf]

Maybe someone should start a thread comparing the two teams/ squads ?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProWell here's a team of players that Sven had during his reign.

David Seaman
Gary Neville
Rio Ferdinand
John Terry
Ashley Cole
David Beckham
Steven Gerrard
Paul Scholes
Frank Lampard
Wayne Rooney
Michael Owen

Didn't advance any further than the quater finals.

[Beso]

France have played three of the seven highest-ranked countries in world football. The
Swiss, rated 19th in the world, are the highest ranked England have played so far.

All big teams struggled against the more organised smaller teams..ie, the Slovs, and the swiss Turks etc
.

The only small team that didnt look well organised was us, unfortunately. Thank god we didnt make it through, cause we would have bored the watching world.

[Beso]

Was a tad drunk last night....but did I really see Ivan Toney, take a blind penalty in a quarter final of a euro championship. Now that itself deserves some ball grabbing.

[Mystic Mock]

Maybe someone should start a thread comparing the two teams/ squads ?


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Well Sven's team had the Destroyer Of Championship Clubs, Beckham, Gerrard, Lampard, Scholes (at points) Rio Ferdinand, John Terry, Ashley Cole, and Gary Neville.

Admittedly our goalkeeper situation is much better nowadays.

[Nicky91]

Was a tad drunk last night....but did I really see Ivan Toney, take a blind penalty in a quarter final of a euro championship. Now that itself deserves some ball grabbing.

that was quite a gamble bringing him for Kane


sorry couldn't resist :fan: with the word pun



what is his walk on song
The Gambler by Kenny Rogers :joker:

[Mystic Mock]

its more luck than something else LOL, also my choice of foreign manager is a good one though, Galtier is a quality manager who also looks more at the team than big name stars (he even benched Messi, Neymar at PSG)



Swiss had bad luck with Akanji's horribly taken penalty (and that plays for Man City can you imagine)


the penalty strategic subs for Switzerland were done properly by Yakin, yet also not giving up on the match to try and finish it in extra time


Swiss played an excellent tournament to get this far to quarter finals

I'm not saying that Southgate is a perfect Manager (I don't believe that exists anyway) but he is a huge step up on some of the Managers that we've had over the years.

I mean who remembers Steve McClaren's reign?:laugh:

And Switzerland had at this tournament what we ironically used to do under Sven, decent performances on average that gets knocked out at the Quarters.

[Mystic Mock]

France have played three of the seven highest-ranked countries in world football. The
Swiss, rated 19th in the world, are the highest ranked England have played so far.

Not one French player has scored in open play, where as three England players have (two of them multiple times.)

If France were to win this Euros it would be a laughing stock, as they can't do the most important part of the Sport which is to score goals.

[Nicky91]

I'm not saying that Southgate is a perfect Manager (I don't believe that exists anyway) but he is a huge step up on some of the Managers that we've had over the years.

I mean who remembers Steve McClaren's reign?:laugh:

And Switzerland had at this tournament what we ironically used to do under Sven, decent performances on average that gets knocked out at the Quarters.

don't trash the LEGEND OF ENSCHEDE

:fist:


also hope Germany won't sack Nagelsmann because losing to Spain in extra time was just bad luck, and he is a good manager for them, just the likes of Neuer, Muller, Gundogan that need to retire from the national team and new talent to step up

[Mystic Mock]

don't trash the LEGEND OF ENSCHEDE

:fist:


also hope Germany won't sack Nagelsmann because losing to Spain in extra time was just bad luck, and he is a good manager for them, just the likes of Neuer, Muller, Gundogan that need to retire from the national team and new talent to step up

Steve McClaren was a good Manager tbf... Just not with England for some reason.:laugh:

And I don't think that Germany will sack Nagelsmann, they've had their best performances in years in this tournament.

[MTVN]

I'm not saying that Southgate is a perfect Manager (I don't believe that exists anyway) but he is a huge step up on some of the Managers that we've had over the years.

I mean who remembers Steve McClaren's reign?:laugh:

And Switzerland had at this tournament what we ironically used to do under Sven, decent performances on average that gets knocked out at the Quarters.

Indeed and people forget that most good managers don't want to manage at international level, they'd much rather be in club football. So the idea that we'd replace Southgate with some managerial genius is for the birds

[MTVN]

I think you all need to eat your memes and thank poor Gareth

Absolutely they do

[Crimson Dynamo]

England are not in the semis because of Safegate

They are there in spite of him

Notice England only start to play football when they go down a goal and then they forget about the "tactics" and rely on their own skills and knowledge of football

[bots]

We all knew that england had a fantastic squad going into this tournament and it has shown through. Every single player is capable of a game changing moment of brilliance.

They went behind in the last 2 games. Both times, they then forgot entirely about tactic and played for their individual pride and thats why they won. They were never in danger of losing that penalty shoot out yesterday

[MTVN]

Southgate has built the culture of players being able to handle the big moments and show resilience when going behind or facing adversity

We are no longer the team of bottlers that we used to be

[Mystic Mock]

Indeed and people forget that most good managers don't want to manage at international level, they'd much rather be in club football. So the idea that we'd replace Southgate with some managerial genius is for the birds

That is a very good point imo.

Most of the best Managers are in club Football.

And some people do want to be careful what they wish for, we could end up with Steven Gerrard as our next Manager.

[Crimson Dynamo]

We all knew that england had a fantastic squad going into this tournament and it has shown through. Every single player is capable of a game changing moment of brilliance.

They went behind in the last 2 games. Both times, they then forgot entirely about tactic and played for their individual pride and thats why they won. They were never in danger of losing that penalty shoot out yesterday

All 5 takers were penalty experts

[GiRTh]

England are not in the semis because of Safegate

They are there in spite of him

Notice England only start to play football when they go down a goal and then they forget about the "tactics" and rely on their own skills and knowledge of footballAgree, when they throw GS tactics out the window, they finally look like a team.

[GiRTh]

England have equalised in the last two games with two of the best goals of the tournament.

It hasnt been thru teamplay, pressing the opponents etc its the brilliance of the players that have won the games not the managers tactics.

I want England to win the tournament obviously but when the players are unable to score a great goal the exit is gonna look so lacklustre that I cant see much support for GS. Finally we'll et rid of him

[GiRTh]

Indeed and people forget that most good managers don't want to manage at international level, they'd much rather be in club football. So the idea that we'd replace Southgate with some managerial genius is for the birdsEngland dont need a tactical genius they just need a manager who has some tactical ideas. GS doesnt have any.

[bots]

Spain have played some really nice football in this tournament, so have the netherlands to be fair, but those type of teams never really end up winning the tournament

[Zizu]

France have played three of the seven highest-ranked countries in world football. The
Swiss, rated 19th in the world, are the highest ranked England have played so far.


The Swiss looked the better team throughout and Shakira could have snatched the win with minutes to go..


It appears that Southgate is just a lucky manager .. sadly not lucky enough to actually win anything though


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[GiRTh]

Southgate has built the culture of players being able to handle the big moments and show resilience when going behind or facing adversity

We are no longer the team of bottlers that we used to beSouthgate has built the players resilience has he? :conf:

Maybe they get it from playing for some of the biggest and most successful clubs in the world. :shrug:

[Zizu]

The Swiss looked the better team throughout and Shakira could have snatched the win with minutes to go..


It appears that Southgate is just a lucky manager .. sadly not lucky enough to actually win anything though


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[arista]

I have updated the thread title
as we are to beat Nicky's nation
on Wednesday

[MTVN]

Southgate has built the players resilience has he? :conf:

Maybe they get it from playing for some of the biggest and most successful clubs in the world. :shrug:

Didn't seem to do it for the previous golden generation

People can criticise his tactics all they want but there's no denying that the teams mentality is brilliant under Gareth

[bots]

I think Southgate has created a unique environment for the players compared to previous generations that has helped the team be successful. Maybe his lack of tactical complexity has led to players from different teams finding it easier to play together. The fan base may not like the playing style, but no-one can argue that it hasn't been successful

[GiRTh]

Didn't seem to do it for the previous golden generation

People can criticise his tactics all they want but there's no denying that the teams mentality is brilliant under GarethThe previous golden generation were at least 10 or 15 years ago. If we're going back then why not go back to 66. There weren't 20 year old Champions league winners in the last golden generation. There are 6 champions league winners in the current squad. Thats got nothing to do with GS, thats why the mentality is better

[GiRTh]

I think Southgate has created a unique environment for the players compared to previous generations that has helped the team be successful. Maybe his lack of tactical complexity has led to players from different teams finding it easier to play together. The fan base may not like the playing style, but no-one can argue that it hasn't been successfulIt depends on how you define success.

A squad with 6 ECL winners should be competitive without an elite manager.

[Nicky91]

I have updated the thread title
as we are to beat Nicky's nation
on Wednesday

cocky england :laugh:


i think it'll be a close call result though



if only we play entire game like we played second half last night



i'd bench Depay, and play Weghorst from beginning

and i'd bench Bergwijn, and play Malen

[Nicky91]

defensive wise we are solid tbh



we had three goalkeepers last night basically according to Verbruggen

with also Micky van de Ven, Wout Weghorst making superb saves

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GR1vRWyXIAEFDTD?format=jpg&name=small

[Crimson Dynamo]

1809914365933437104

[GiRTh]

1809914365933437104:laugh::laugh:

[bots]

well, you can safely say that it caught the swiss off guard, none of them were expecting that :laugh:

[Nicky91]

well, you can safely say that it caught the swiss off guard, none of them were expecting that :laugh:

England have no business in this semi final, in a alternate universe where there is more justice



semi final unworthy team :idc:

[Nicky91]

if the final is france - england


i am not watching, and i hope more people will not watch that horror snoozefest, even worse than the eurovision 2024 final

[Zizu]

if the final is france - england


i am not watching, and i hope more people will not watch that horror snoozefest, even worse than the eurovision 2024 final


That’s a fair point to be fair


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[Nicky91]

England

GK: Dickpicford
RB: I'm Walkin Walker
CB: Boners
CB: Gayie
LB: Jaw
CM: Risers
CM: Oversexed Bellingham
CM: Maynu
FW: Chaka Zulu
FW: Grandpa Kane Biden
FW: Slow Snail Foden


:hehe:

[Nicky91]

that looks like something posted on Uncyclopedia :joker:

[Cherie]

England

GK: Dickpicford
RB: I'm Walkin Walker
CB: Boners
CB: Gayie
LB: Jaw
CM: Risers
CM: Oversexed Bellingham
CM: Maynu
FW: Chaka Zulu
FW: Grandpa Kane Biden
FW: Slow Snail Foden


:hehe:

:joker: Nicky you crack me up....genius

Good luck on Wednesday may the best team win

[Nicky91]

:joker: Nicky you crack me up....genius

Good luck on Wednesday may the best team win

well, we don't have to fear Kane anyway, and i hope Foden takes many of the free kicks they get, also non-existent


Kane is even slower than Biden and he can't even fight for the ball or he goes down on the ground so easily :laugh3: :laugh3:


i hope the orange army truly is dominant as well in the Signal Iduna Park instead of the big BVB yellow wall

[Crimson Dynamo]

3 times today i have heard people on Talksport say how Pickford was "brilliant" in the shoot-out

he made one save from a dreadful penalty that was hit straight at him and missed all the other ones - one as a dolly straight down the middle

bollocks

[MTVN]

3 times today i have heard people on Talksport say how Pickford was "brilliant" in the shoot-out

he made one save from a dreadful penalty that was hit straight at him and missed all the other ones - one as a dolly straight down the middle

bollocks

Yeah I am a bit baffled why everyone keeps focusing on Pickford being a hero haha

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Vanessa]

Come on England!:cheer2:

[Zizu]

3 times today i have heard people on Talksport say how Pickford was "brilliant" in the shoot-out

he made one save from a dreadful penalty that was hit straight at him and missed all the other ones - one as a dolly straight down the middle

bollocks


Presumably the same people who claimed that we played well and it was a massive improvement


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[Vanessa]

Pickford was great in my opinion. But man of the match was saka without a doubt. The man is brilliant!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Presumably the same people who claimed that we played well and it was a massive improvement


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as in the BBC team who were told to talk up England last night to the bewilderment of anyone who watched?

[Zizu]

as in the BBC team who were told to talk up England last night to the bewilderment of anyone who watched?


Yeah

That was very , very strange and a complete turnaround from them


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[Alf]

England have equalised in the last two games with two of the best goals of the tournament.

It hasnt been thru teamplay, pressing the opponents etc its the brilliance of the players that have won the games not the managers tactics.

I want England to win the tournament obviously but when the players are unable to score a great goal the exit is gonna look so lacklustre that I cant see much support for GS. Finally we'll et rid of himI think you think too much and expect to much of us. And you underestimate every other nation.

International football isn't the same as league football. You're playing against the best 11 players of each country. And they're good players who know how to compete. It's tough.

We have never been close to being one of the best technical sides. English style has never been that way.

Some of the teams you come up against at this level can keep the ball and starve you of possession if you let them have the ball easily. I think that's the thinking behind Southgates tactics. Try and starve your opponents of possession so it lesens the damage they can do to you.

Also, a lot of team's we've come up against so far see England as a big football nation, that alone makes them raise their game and they also get men behind the ball to make it hard for us to break them down.

Maybe a team like Holland (certainly Spain or France) will play more open and give our players a bit more space in behind and we'll see a better spectacle.

[GiRTh]

I think you think too much and expect to much of us. And you underestimate every other nation.

International football isn't the same as league football. You're playing against the best 11 players of each country. And they're good players who know how to compete. It's tough.

We have never been close to being one of the best technical sides. English style has never been that way.

Some of the teams you come up against at this level can keep the ball and starve you of possession if you let them have the ball easily. I think that's the thinking behind Southgates tactics. Try and starve your opponents of possession so it lesens the damage they can do to you.

Also, a lot of team's we've come up against so far see England as a big football nation, that alone makes them raise their game and they also get men behind the ball to make it hard for us to break them down.

Maybe a team like Holland (certainly Spain or France) will play more open and give our players a bit more space in behind and we'll see a better spectacle.Agree with most of this but I dont think England have inferior players to other nations. I think the manager is holding the team back not pushing it forward.

I want him to step up, in games, or step down as manager.

[Alf]

We still have a chance to be partying into the early hours, this time next week. If that possibility happened then your unworthy attacks on the manager will look silly.

[GiRTh]

I've said that England have a great chance to win.

I do think they will beat the Netherlands and then we can only hope.

[Zizu]

We still have a chance to be partying into the early hours, this time next week. If that possibility happened then your unworthy attacks on the manager will look silly.


I would rather we play blindingly attractive football for a couple of games and fall short rather than playing this turged , corpse dragging football and win the damn thing


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[Mystic Mock]

as in the BBC team who were told to talk up England last night to the bewilderment of anyone who watched?

My Dad was really confused by the BBC commentary.:joker:

[Mystic Mock]

I would rather we play blindingly attractive football for a couple of games and fall short rather than playing this turged , corpse dragging football and win the damn thing


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I feel mixed on this post.

On one hand I obviously want England to win through any means necessary.

On the other hand if England were to win the Euros this year, then it advertises to teams in all future knockout competitions to play really boring Football that sucks the life out of every game, pass backwards and sideways for possibly 120 minutes.

[Zizu]

I feel mixed on this post.

On one hand I obviously want England to win through any means necessary.

On the other hand if England were to win the Euros this year, then it advertises to teams in all future knockout competitions to play really boring Football that sucks the life out of every game, pass backwards and sideways for possibly 120 minutes.


Yep.

This sums it up

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[Mystic Mock]

Yep.

This sums it up

Apologies for posting this again
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I don't care if you post it again, it's funny.:laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Its NOT coming home and that is a fact


here is why England have never won the Euros so it cant "come home"

[Livia]

Its NOT coming home and that is a fact


here is why England have never won the Euros so it cant "come home"

It might "come home" because we invented it, smartarse.

[bots]

we didn't invent the euros :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

It might "come home" because we invented it, smartarse.

:nono:

10 points from Gryffindor

[Livia]

we didn't invent the euros :laugh:

No, no... Football as well you know mister.

:nono:

10 points from Gryffindor

Can a Hufflepuff take points off a Gryffindor?

[Zizu]

I don't care if you post it again, it's funny.:laugh:


Well until we start passing forwards its still relevant

LOL


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[GiRTh]

Yeah

That was very , very strange and a complete turnaround from them


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProBaffling considering BBC dont have the rights to the qualifiers and friendlies and are unlikely to get them any time soon.

[bots]

Baffling considering BBC dont have the rights to the qualifiers and friendlies and are unlikely to get them any time soon.

they get access to the squad for interviews etc. They will have been told to start talking positive or the players wont be made available

[GiRTh]

they get access to the squad for interviews etc. They will have been told to start talking positive or the players wont be made availableIts all a bit tit for tat. :laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

Well until we start passing forwards its still relevant

LOL


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Passing backwards and we've still scored more goals in open play than France.:joker:

[arista]

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[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/f439/live/afdc3a60-3e31-11ef-9e1c-3b4a473456a6.png.webp

[arista]

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[Mystic Mock]

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I didn't know that Harry Kane was in a Village People cover band.:amazed:

I want him to sing In The Navy if we win tonight.

[Nicky91]

10-0 for England is what it is going to be obviously


Premier League is the best league in the world, according to the english so

[MTVN]

Time for a beer yet?

[Nicky91]

Its Coming Home

Its Coming Home

Its Coming Home

Its Coming Home


England's 10-0 Blitzkrieg over Netherlands for an easy final vs weak spain

[Nicky91]

SgMG7i-AT7g

Ha Ha Ha Harry Kane


hoping for a hurricane in signal iduna park tonight :fc: :fc:

[Zizu]

Time for a beer yet?


Keep it to drown your sorrows


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[Nicky91]

Keep it to drown your sorrows


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no need to drown your sorrows


England playing the perfect tournament so far, most attractive football


having luck on their side, facing the weaker opponents in these knockout stages, while Spain exhausts themselves facing germany, france



Raducanu winning wimbledon and england winning the euro's this year :clap1: :clap1:

[Zizu]

no need to drown your sorrows


England playing the perfect tournament so far, most attractive football


having luck on their side, facing the weaker opponents in these knockout stages, while Spain exhausts themselves facing germany, france



Raducanu winning wimbledon and england winning the euro's this year :clap1: :clap1:


‘ Attractive? ‘


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[Nicky91]

well idk how to feel regarding tonight


England have had lots of luck on their side this tournament


hoping we will take advantage of any weaknesses within england team, i mean Walker, Foden, Kane are least technical players and Pickford is a mediocre goalkeeper



we should play Malen instead of Bergwijn, Van de Ven instead of Aké

Weghorst will never play in starting 11 because he doesn't want that sort of role, more a pinchhitter/supersub kind of role for him

[Zizu]

How many Dutch players would start for England ??

Just 2 … but only one will play tonight as their only world class player FDJ has missed the tournament through injury

Just shows that all our recent successes are DESPITE Gareth bladdy Southgate !


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[Zizu]

This maybe controversial but I want the team who plays the best football and most deserved to go through to the final tonight .. whoever it is ..

That way we will get a wonderfully entertaining final !!


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[Nicky91]

if England win, no annoying loud fireworks over here when i go to sleep ;)


if Netherlands win, i think we get a ****load of negative vibes tomorrow on this forum




no matter what results, i think there'll be fights between dutch and english fans in dortmund and we have the majority, 80.000 dutch fans in dortmund

[Nicky91]

https://media.nu.nl/m/gu4x8q3af8z8_wd854/bekogeld-met-bier-en-uitgescholden-engeland-is-uitgekeken-op-southgate.jpg

whole england hating Southgate, but when he will bring it home, and get sacked

he'll have the last laugh, if he gets plenty of other job offers ;)

[Crimson Dynamo]

Time for a beer yet?

Just been out to get in the ciders and a pizza for me and the lad

:cheer2:

[Nicky91]

Southgate i would like to see at Chelsea, with a big rebuild, mainly with youth product and reserves squad and Cole Palmer as the big star


seems like also perfect type for Arsenal, and outside england, maybe a Bologna or Wolfsburg?

[arista]

if England win, no annoying loud fireworks over here when i go to sleep ;)


if Netherlands win, i think we get a ****load of negative vibes tomorrow on this forum




no matter what results, i think there'll be fights between dutch and english fans in dortmund and we have the majority, 80.000 dutch fans in dortmund



Put Headphones on
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[arista]

Just been out to get in the ciders and a pizza for me and the lad

:cheer2:


How nice


8PM till late
not advisable for young kids

[Nicky91]

england are the bookies favourite for tonight


odds have had everything correct so far

[Nicky91]

to quote Rick Astley


England have Angels on their Side, and among the english fans we have Every One of Us, and we will Never Give Up on Southgate, we are in this Together Forever, Whenever You Need Somebody


see what i did there :D


come on england, come on :dance2: :cheer: :cheer:


i might be only dutchman rooting for the opposition but **** patriotism

[bots]

the itv coverage starts at 6:30 fgs :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

How nice


8PM till late
not advisable for young kids

he wont be getting any whisky just cider

:nono:

[arista]

he wont be getting any whisky just cider

:nono:


OK

[arista]

On ITV1HD now

But Kick-off is at 8PM

[MTVN]

I see Nicky's mob have been out attacking the England fans again

Get Knollsy on em