View Full Version : Trump has just been shot!!
Not heard a word
…hmmmmm, that’s quite strange that we’re told nothing about the person who has lost their life or the two are seriously injured in the shooting…
Cherie
14-07-2024, 03:47 PM
…hmmmmm, that’s quite strange that we’re told nothing about the person who has lost their life or the two are seriously injured in the shooting…
Might be their families are holding back info or they have not all yet been identified or all family members informed?
Withano
14-07-2024, 03:50 PM
Farage: I got my mate to throw a milkshake at me and it got me 5 seats
Trump: hold my bud light
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/14/14/87314203-13633009-Yearbook_images_have_surfaced_of_Thomas_Matthew_Cr ooks_the_gunma-m-15_1720963698007.jpg
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13633009/Thomas-matthew-crooks-biden-donor-trump-shooter-pictured.html
Can't help but feel that he looks like he might have had foetal alchohol syndrome, every time I see his photo.
Farage: I got my mate to throw a milkshake at me and it got me 5 seats
Trump: hold my bud light
:joker:
arista
14-07-2024, 04:05 PM
The Terrorist
had Explosives in his car.
His Rifle came from his DAD
CNN HD USA Live on UK TV
Gusto Brunt
14-07-2024, 04:06 PM
I don't know why he wasn't encased in a transparent bullet proof screen anyway.
arista
14-07-2024, 04:08 PM
I don't know why he wasn't encased in a transparent bullet proof screen anyway.
He will be
from now
Gusto Brunt
14-07-2024, 04:09 PM
He will be
from now
Good.
GiRTh
14-07-2024, 04:10 PM
Farage: I got my mate to throw a milkshake at me and it got me 5 seats
Trump: hold my bud light:laugh::laugh:
He will be
from now
Like the Pope in the 80s.:joker:
Liam-
14-07-2024, 04:13 PM
Maga cultists attempted to kidnap and murder Gretchen Whitmer, how did Trump and the cult respond? They trivialised it, made fun of her and said she brought it on herself because of how she handled her state (successfully) the pearl clutching over civility, especially from people who thrive on political violence and disruption really doesn’t wash
Maga cultists attempted to kidnap and murder Gretchen Whitmer, how did Trump and the cult respond? They trivialised it, made fun of her and said she brought it on herself because of how she handled her state (successfully) the pearl clutching over civility, especially from people who thrive on political violence and disruption really doesn’t wash
Another person who in this day and age would see his brain splattered across a watching crowd as justice for those misdemeanors.
You should send all these names to the FBI, Liam.
Farage: I got my mate to throw a milkshake at me and it got me 5 seats
Trump: hold my bud light
https://media3.giphy.com/media/Q7ozWVYCR0nyW2rvPW/200w.webp
Nicky91
14-07-2024, 04:20 PM
Can't help but feel that he looks like he might have had foetal alchohol syndrome, every time I see his photo.
every evil person has something wrong about them honestly
if they would be normal, they wouldn't go out with the intent on killing people
arista
14-07-2024, 04:25 PM
"attempted"
Nothing to do with Trump
arista
14-07-2024, 04:26 PM
Farage: I got my mate to throw a milkshake at me and it got me 5 seats
Trump: hold my bud light
Nice to see you post
Rare as you are
arista
14-07-2024, 04:31 PM
Gov. Josh Shapiro
of Butler, PA.
Taking questions
but is dumping most of them on the FBI
who are not there
Live all 3 TV News
arista
14-07-2024, 04:34 PM
He has gone back into the Police Station.
President Biden to speak again
in one hour or so
arista
14-07-2024, 04:37 PM
Inside the Evil Terrorists
Car was Explosive material
His Dad needs to talk to the press
Crimson Dynamo
14-07-2024, 04:50 PM
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…hmmmmm, that’s quite strange that we’re told nothing about the person who has lost their life or the two are seriously injured in the shooting…1812512439583555625
Crimson Dynamo
14-07-2024, 05:06 PM
1812512439583555625
heartbreaking
arista
14-07-2024, 05:21 PM
Yes that Evil Terrorist shot him in the Head
A top Fireman standing near Trump.
The Terrorists Dad is a coward to not speak
Crimson Dynamo
14-07-2024, 05:28 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSdfa7UWsAAGs3J?format=jpg&name=smallhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSdheOBX0AAagFY?format=jpg&name=small
every evil person has something wrong about them honestly
if they would be normal, they wouldn't go out with the intent on killing people
Maybe that's what we are supposed to do as homosapians?
Dont forget that little lady protecting trump in that photo, @Leather Trumpet had the time and foresight to pick up trumps maga hat as they made their exit.
If you watch her specifically that is, on the clips.
every evil person has something wrong about them honestly
if they would be normal, they wouldn't go out with the intent on killing people
Nicky is correct :laugh:
But, the psychology of fear has a way of spreading itself around. I think that's the biggest concern with these events. We're very busy with hurricane cleanup and restoring our power, we don't have time to get wound up over national politics where we are. It's a bit of a blessing. But my city is not prone to rioting (knock on a forest) and other reactionary behavior... 99% of the people arrested are out of towners who come to stir **** up with the local angry mouths who hug the TV camera wherever it goes. And those people will always exist, it's not a left or right thing... some poeple are just dipsh*ts.
arista
14-07-2024, 05:58 PM
…has their been any update on who was fatally shot and the two people who are critically injured in hospital…?…
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSdUnrPWEAAASsZ?format=jpg&name=small
Yes Real sad a Top Firman was shot in the Head
and died.
From the Evil Terrorist/
The other two injured
are still staying out off the press
Crimson Dynamo
14-07-2024, 06:02 PM
Maybe that's what we are supposed to do as homosapians?
I don't think his sexuality has anything to do with this Parmy :nono:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSdfa7UWsAAGs3J?format=jpg&name=smallhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSdheOBX0AAagFY?format=jpg&name=small
When we were still out and I had windows open to ventilate the house, my daughter had little American flags she was waving out the window. I don't know what it is about our flag, but it leaves an impression even on the young... we're not uber patriots or anything. My house is full of art and her room is decorated to the nigh with color, but nothing patriotic. Anyway, wherever we go the flag stands out and we have all kinds of flags on display at all times (including Texan flags) from everywhere to businesses, the post office and major shops... so now she has several little US flags that I got around the 4th of July... but I think that just says a lot about there's so many emotions tied to the flag immediately for people (... I don't know what it is they immediately recognize without knowledge at that age), as a graphic artist, but it sticks... so while there's the Trump phenomenon, there's the attachment to the American identity that is strong for a lot of people. So I think those who support him really just want to support the country in the most direct possible, and for whatever reason, they associate Trump with the possibility of that... and don't feel the current people in power care about it at all. Not that they're all anti-American, but that they represent themselves, their party, their own objectives... much more than the country they love itself.
If he were to do something counter to this sentiment, that would be the only way he loses support, imo. So imo, he sees a wider range of support. The thing is, many people are "asleep at the wheel" with regard to politics atm from exhaustion... but seeing this, they will more likely step out and get engaged or at least, be more aware of what is happening politically... their eyes more wide open so to speak... it's a very good thing, but it's also not for the best of reasons obviously... ymmv, I don't claim to speak for every person, but just have noticed we all have certain instincts when it comes to representing our country... which is a very different animal than our associations to "society", or even "a culture"...
arista
14-07-2024, 06:07 PM
President Biden Live Now
At last, he accepts it is an Assassination Attempt.
He has Directed the Secret Service
to update all Security for Trump.
It was short, And Biden refused to answer any Press
Questions
President Biden Live Now
At last he accepts it is a Assassination Attempt.
He has Directed the Secret Service
to update all Security for Trump.
I'd rather watch Abbott's hurricane update...
arista
14-07-2024, 06:13 PM
I'd rather watch Abbott's hurricane update...
It was only a few minutes anyway,
and he has spoken to Trump.
So at least Security will be stepped up on both of them.
Crimson Dynamo
14-07-2024, 06:14 PM
interesting pic
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSd0vLxWIAAc1um?format=jpg&name=small
arista
14-07-2024, 06:22 PM
Good our UK CNN HD
is on USA Feed
I get sick of the Africa shows
only show the rich in Africa
Better ones are on TRTworldHD
arista
14-07-2024, 06:26 PM
interesting pic
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSd0vLxWIAAc1um?format=jpg&name=small
Yes trained to Shield the Leader
until the FBI Sniper
confirms the Terrorist is 100% dead
4 bullets in the Head
helps
Crimson Dynamo
14-07-2024, 06:28 PM
PA councilwoman and staffer for
@PADems
@PaHouseDems
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSdo3fOW4AALMoi?format=jpg&name=360x360https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSdo3fOWwAAIf0i?format=jpg&name=360x360
this next week is critical for the future of America. The chances are not good for everything calming down with a convention full of senior speakers talking. One or 2 words out of place could cause it to boil over
Crimson Dynamo
14-07-2024, 06:29 PM
aaaaaaaaaaaaand another they
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSd65VDXoAAnjha?format=jpg&name=small
Crimson Dynamo
14-07-2024, 06:31 PM
Legend
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSd7R-0XoAA82BL?format=jpg&name=small
Liam-
14-07-2024, 06:31 PM
https://twitter.com/msignorile/status/1812511361445826600?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ
arista
14-07-2024, 06:34 PM
https://twitter.com/msignorile/status/1812511361445826600?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ
Yes
Slick Liam
Robinson was featured on the Daily Show
Sure is Crazy
Crimson Dynamo
14-07-2024, 06:37 PM
the whataboutery is strong and repulsive
yeah but, yeah but, yeah but
A Father has been killed but yeah but look at this
Jesus H Christ
:facepalm:
Crimson Dynamo
14-07-2024, 06:40 PM
Leftist Staffer for Congressman Bennie Thompson (D-MS)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSb2tOAWQAA6Bin?format=jpg&name=small
the whataboutery is strong and repulsive
yeah but, yeah but, yeah but
A Father has been killed but yeah but look at this
Jesus H Christ
:facepalm:
I'm assuming they've made peace with the fact he was almost certainly a leftist, given how strongly they're now going on the whataboutery line of defence. :laugh:
Crimson Dynamo
14-07-2024, 06:48 PM
I'm assuming they've made peace with the fact he was almost certainly a leftist, given how strongly they're now going on the whataboutery line of defence. :laugh:
quite :laugh:
Liam-
14-07-2024, 06:50 PM
https://twitter.com/acnewsitics/status/1812537447756001637?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ
Him and his people have endorsed and trafficked in violent, extreme rhetoric from day one, how there are morons denying these plain fact is laughable
Cherie
14-07-2024, 06:51 PM
1812512439583555625
Collateral damage accord to some
RIP to him
Crimson Dynamo
14-07-2024, 06:53 PM
Collateral damage accord to some
RIP to him
the left have been cheering this
sickening
Crimson Dynamo
14-07-2024, 06:53 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSb3UiSWEAAzKya?format=jpg&name=small
arista
14-07-2024, 07:17 PM
Good on Trump
now on his way to
Convention.
Glenn.
14-07-2024, 07:30 PM
Collateral damage accord to some
RIP to him
the left have been cheering this
sickening
Tell that to the parents of the babies that were slaughtered at Sandy Hook… because of people like Trump and his cult that endorse guns. Sickening.
For a group of ****ing idiots that endorse guns they sure as **** seemed worried about them when they were screaming for their lives yesterday.
Maybe across the board all politicians will start to think a little more carefully about how they choose their next words. Lest they become targets themselves. It's been ridiculous the past several years the utter bravado. Yes, it's inflammatory language. In the end though, it's to impress people on the internet or make themselves a name. They want fame, not warfare. These are not individuals who will ever join a militia and take up a rifle. They're politicians with tons of private and public security, no concerns of police protection and round the clock surveillance of their internal communications. I said this before, that threats are usually caught before they become public. They're made well aware of this and so it gives them a sense that they're untouchable. It's just not worth it now after this (I hope). The hard left are being played, imo. Their own politicians, or at least the ones more likely to be favorable to their cause, will fold like a deck of cards once they're under any real threat. You can't necessarily say that about every person on the right... some are in actual militias. That should clue some in until the likeliest outcome of this if "things break out". Which I don't think they will.
The media does not provide sane interpretations about our reality. They want to maintain the theater, because it gives politicians an effective chance at getting to the emotions of their respective constituencies. If Trump is a decades long phenomenon, they are to blame, because they create the conditions that allow these storms to form... and continue to form, because they want their individual establishments and political interests to maintain relevant.
I would never go as far as to blame the media for any individual shooter or a mass shooting. However, they do not do enough to prevent these things from becoming more regular. They're not intending to incite anything but some of the people working behind those establishments have a thirst for it and they really are being misled if they think it will somehow lead to outcomes that work out in their favor. There's not going to be a communist-style uprising. The US is too large a space for that to control, is too well-armed, to put up with any of their sh**. They're being misled. At best they'll have cities and other cosmopolitans for a moment happily plastering bumper stickers and other lame stickers all over branded posts on social media, until the upheaval disrupts their lives and creature comforts... then that support will vaporize.
The milder scare tactics, staged protests, social media work, and sporadic riots do work to set the stage for the politicizing of things so they can push harder policies, but it only works because for the most part, people are separated from it through a TV screen or a computer... but as soon as it goes too far, it'll backfire massively. That's why we see now that these politicians are in a hurry to condemn what has happened and to try to disassociate from it.
arista
14-07-2024, 07:33 PM
[I would never go as far as to blame the
media for any individual shooter or a mass shooting.]
Yes Maru
Your a Nice wise lady in the USA
the ambient temperature of the rhetoric from both sides has been steadily increasing for years. Compare this to the time of Obama and the difference in language is striking. I don't believe either side is really capable or inclined to dial it back, maybe for a day or two but certainly no longer than a week
So, how many maga will want some retribution. I would say a lot, so its not looking good till November
Jordan.
14-07-2024, 07:53 PM
Collateral damage accord to some
RIP to him
You claimed it an inside job. Pick a side, pick a side.
Oliver_W
14-07-2024, 07:55 PM
For those who think it was an inside job, I have several London landmarks for sale if you're interested!
Cherie
14-07-2024, 07:56 PM
You claimed it an inside job. Pick a side, pick a side.
By inside I meant someone on his team let it happen as they did not seem concerned by the person on the roof , not that Trump said...it will be a great idea to shoot me, a milimeter away from my brain would be great :laugh: I don't need to pick a side I cant vote so cannot impact this election in any way and neither can you...if you ever vote that is
the reason, i think there was some leaked security information, and that doesn't necessarily mean it was an inside job, is that the shooter knew that building roof was an unsecured location that had field of view cover from the sniper teams. It's not something that happened randomly
Crimson Dynamo
14-07-2024, 08:01 PM
Good on Trump
now on his way to
Convention.
Very brave man
Crimson Dynamo
14-07-2024, 08:05 PM
The leftDems are in dissaray
Their position now is untenable
Struggling to find a coherent position bar whataboutery
Be interesting to see what they will desperately grasp onto going forward
Very brave man
there are no 2 ways about it. Biden is being portrayed as old and infirm, and Trump had the presence of mind to pump his fist in the air with blood on his head. That comes from strength of character
there are no 2 ways about it. Biden is being portrayed as old and infirm, and Trump had the presence of mind to pump his fist in the air with blood on his head. That comes from strength of character
And very dedicated photographers. They're never using that memory card again if they have any sense. It should go straight to a museum for long-term preservation.
Redway
14-07-2024, 08:17 PM
Oh, well.
Jordan.
14-07-2024, 08:22 PM
By inside I meant someone on his team let it happen as they did not seem concerned by the person on the roof , not that Trump said...it will be a great idea to shoot me, a milimeter away from my brain would be great :laugh: I don't need to pick a side I cant vote so cannot impact this election in any way and neither can you...if you ever vote that is
So the victim was collateral damage in your version of events too. That was all I needed to confirm. Welcome to the crazies side :hee:
Liam-
14-07-2024, 08:25 PM
This false notion that both sides are peddling violent rhetoric is just provable nonsense
I agree with Liam lol. ;)
Liam-
14-07-2024, 08:27 PM
https://twitter.com/angry_staffer/status/1812561909448683546?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ
Liam-
14-07-2024, 08:30 PM
https://twitter.com/reportingfromny/status/1812463981065355514?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ
Crimson Dynamo
14-07-2024, 08:35 PM
As I said
Thay are desperate and will now lose
Get your popcorn folks
:laugh2:
Liam-
14-07-2024, 08:39 PM
The cult that was trying to hang Trumps vice president because he didn’t help steal the election, are now pretending to be against political violence
Cherie
14-07-2024, 08:57 PM
So the victim was collateral damage in your version of events too. That was all I needed to confirm. Welcome to the crazies side :hee:
Nah the crazies are saying Trump asked to be shot, and the shooter agreed to die ...keep up
FBI finds bombs in Trump shooter Thomas Crooks Matthews' car and home
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13633299/donald-trump-shooter-rally-thomas-matthew-crooks-bombs.html
Glenn.
14-07-2024, 09:15 PM
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Glenn.
14-07-2024, 09:16 PM
FBI finds bombs in Trump shooter Thomas Crooks Matthews' car and home
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13633299/donald-trump-shooter-rally-thomas-matthew-crooks-bombs.html
They had to cover all bases huh
FBI finds bombs in Trump shooter Thomas Crooks Matthews' car and home
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13633299/donald-trump-shooter-rally-thomas-matthew-crooks-bombs.htmlDid the FBI plant them there?
Jordan.
14-07-2024, 09:17 PM
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Nah the crazies are saying Trump asked to be shot, and the shooter agreed to die ...keep up
No one is agreeing with your conspiracy theory either Cheryl.. keep up :pat:
Glenn.
14-07-2024, 09:25 PM
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Tell that to the parents of the babies that were slaughtered at Sandy Hook… because of people like Trump and his cult that endorse guns. Sickening.
For a group of ****ing idiots that endorse guns they sure as **** seemed worried about them when they were screaming for their lives yesterday.
Those babies were 6 and 7 years old. About the same age as those babies you want to be educated on how to mutilate themselves in their teens. If they don't feel right at that age.So dont give it all this caring bollocks all of a sudden.
Crimson Dynamo
14-07-2024, 09:36 PM
Again the whataboutery is telling
They have nothing more
They are defeated
Let's see if they have anything else....
Cherie
14-07-2024, 09:50 PM
No one is agreeing with your conspiracy theory either Cheryl.. keep up :pat:
okay Juniper
Glenn.
14-07-2024, 09:54 PM
Those babies were 6 and 7 years old. About the same age as those babies you want to be educated on how to mutilate themselves in their teens. If they don't feel right at that age.So dont give it all this caring bollocks all of a sudden.
No one’s teaching 6-7yr olds how to mutilate themselves you idiot. They’re teaching kids to be decent humans beings when they grow up by teaching them that the LGBTQ+ community aren’t monsters.
user104658
14-07-2024, 10:02 PM
I feel that this thread could actually cause brain damage. Lolz.
arista
14-07-2024, 10:11 PM
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Mystic Mock
14-07-2024, 10:12 PM
I remember the leftists laughing when Nigel Farage got attacked..
sickening
Farage got a Milkshake thrown on him.
Trump had his life threatened, it's not remotely the same level of threat imo.
Its not all bad
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Crimson Dynamo
14-07-2024, 10:13 PM
Farage got a Milkshake thrown on him.
Trump had his life threatened, it's not remotely the same level of threat imo.
If you can't see the parallels
Well I'm flabbergasted
Mystic Mock
14-07-2024, 10:14 PM
Him being shot at is going to fire up his base yes, I’d even expect violence in the streets because his lot love that, but it’s not going to make anybody switch their votes over to him, especially when his horde are sounding even more extreme and crazy as a result of this, undecided voters are going to be looking at the reaction to this from both sides and a dignified, powerful response from Biden/Harris trying to calm down the atmosphere, alongside the crazies screaming for more blood and retribution than they’ve already been doing for 3 1/2 years, is really going to show how different the two sides are
I hope that you're correct, Liam.
Glenn.
14-07-2024, 10:14 PM
Farage got a Milkshake thrown on him.
Trump had his life threatened, it's not remotely the same level of threat imo.
It’s just trolling at this point.
user104658
14-07-2024, 10:19 PM
If you can't see the parallels
Well I'm flabbergasted
:joker: I bet you are.
Mystic Mock
14-07-2024, 10:19 PM
Trump is an existential threat to democracy, he has made that very clear for a long time, him being shot doesn’t change that
I do agree with you.
We can't pretend that January 6th never happened.
I do agree with you.
We can't pretend that January 6th never happened.It was a set-up. A Trump supporter was shot dead there too.
The most peaceful insurrection in history. An insurrection that looked like a guided tour of the Capital building.
arista
14-07-2024, 10:38 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GScB-CqWcAAT_he?format=jpg&name=900x900
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSb16NpWAAEhHyn?format=jpg&name=900x900
Mystic Mock
14-07-2024, 11:09 PM
If you can't see the parallels
Well I'm flabbergasted
I regularly see parallels between Milkshakes and gunshots.:laugh:
Mystic Mock
14-07-2024, 11:12 PM
It was a set-up. A Trump supporter was shot dead there too.
The most peaceful insurrection in history. An insurrection that looked like a guided tour of the Capital building.
The people going to Capitol Hill were not being peaceful, they were trying to force Trump back into power.
The people going to Capitol Hill were not being peaceful, they were trying to force Trump back into power.Who told you that?
thesheriff443
14-07-2024, 11:33 PM
I regularly see parallels between Milkshakes and gunshots.:laugh:
The problem is mock it could be milkshakes one day and acid on another day
I’ve got no investment in trump biden or farage but no one should lose there life because of political views
GoldHeart
14-07-2024, 11:42 PM
Who told you that?
Then what really happened?
Mystic Mock
15-07-2024, 12:02 AM
Who told you that?
Well they weren't going there for a picnic.:laugh:
Mystic Mock
15-07-2024, 12:04 AM
The problem is mock it could be milkshakes one day and acid on another day
I’ve got no investment in trump biden or farage but no one should lose there life because of political views
But it weren't Acid that was thrown at Farage, if it was then admittedly I would understand the comparison much more with Trump's situation.
And I do agree with you that nobody should really lose their life over Politics, unless they're a threat to society or the world at large.
How do you know they’re dead? He’s always banging on about fake newsAlex Jones got sued hundreds of million dollars for doing exactly what Glenn is doing here. Having an opinion.
Shame on you if you cheered that injustice (and corruption) on.
Then what really happened?You're not interested. If you was, you'd go find out for yourself.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSdEnHgWoAApcq5?format=jpg&name=medium
Well said Melania. I remember many saying that as soon as Trump was no longer President she would run a mile from him....:hee:
arista
15-07-2024, 03:09 AM
That AR 15 the Terrorist used
belonged to his dad.
The Dad should talk to the Press.
Let him choose.
But he must, talk since his weapon
was used to Murder a Great Fireman,
arista
15-07-2024, 03:13 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/f173/live/ce9a6e40-4232-11ef-9e1c-3b4a473456a6.png.webp
arista
15-07-2024, 03:50 AM
If Trump or Biden are at a Live event
FBI can use Camera Drones
in the whole area.
They can get permission
Great Scottish Reporter in America
pointed that out
SkyNewsHD
arista
15-07-2024, 04:04 AM
Did the FBI plant them there?
No.
arista
15-07-2024, 04:10 AM
Reports in todays papers
This Pathetic Terrorist
did well in school
But got Bullied a lot..................
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arista
15-07-2024, 04:24 AM
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arista
15-07-2024, 04:27 AM
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arista
15-07-2024, 04:39 AM
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[Journalist Salena Zito,
was photographed at the rally
following the gunfire,
hiding behind a speaker]
As the FBI Fired Back
Fast at that Pathetic Terrorist
it was wise to stay out of the way.
Salena spoke on CNN HD USA on UK TV
arista
15-07-2024, 05:04 AM
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arista
15-07-2024, 05:07 AM
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Oliver_W
15-07-2024, 05:28 AM
I regularly see parallels between Milkshakes and gunshots.:laugh:
If someone is able to milkshake a politician at an event, they could carry out an acid attack. That's what the comparison implies, anyway.
Mystic Mock
15-07-2024, 05:46 AM
Reports in todays papers
This Pathetic Terrorist
did well in school
But got Bullied a lot..................
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I got bullied a lot at School, probably worse than what this guy had to face.
I haven't gone around shooting anyone (as have millions of victims of bullying around the world,) it's not a good excuse.
arista
15-07-2024, 05:50 AM
I got bullied a lot at School, probably worse than what this guy had to face.
I haven't gone around shooting anyone (as have millions of victims of bullying around the world,) it's not a good excuse.
Yes
But what are his Dad and Mother Like
That Pathetic Evil Terrorist
lived with them
Mystic Mock
15-07-2024, 05:50 AM
If someone is able to milkshake a politician at an event, they could carry out an acid attack. That's what the comparison implies, anyway.
Hopefully security is tighter around Farage after that incident, in case someone does try to attack him with Acid in the future.
My point though is it weren't Acid that was thrown at Farage, it was Milkshake which imo is not the same as Donald Trump nearly getting assassinated.
And I am saying this as someone that prefers Farage as a Human Being.
Mystic Mock
15-07-2024, 05:53 AM
Yes
But what are his Dad and Mother Like
That Pathetic Evil Terrorist
lived with them
Who knows on that front tbf, it's a likely possibility.
I do wonder though if he was getting influenced by a friend that he was talking too online, or irl?
arista
15-07-2024, 06:39 AM
The Fireman that was Murdered
by this Evil Terrorist
Dived over his family
to save them from getting shot.......................
arista
15-07-2024, 06:40 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSdUnrPWEAAASsZ?format=jpg&name=small
The Fireman that was Murdered
by this Evil Terrorist
Dived over his family
to save them from getting shot.......................
…yeah, I was just going to post that…the media are reports are that he moved in front of whichever of his family that were there …to shield them from the bullets…he’d just not long celebrated his 59th birthday also, so much of his life to look forward to….very sad…
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSdUnrPWEAAASsZ?format=jpg&name=small
…the pics must have been from his 50th birthday…turn that 5 upside down to 20…
…another horrendous crime/killing which was committed by a very young person…barely much more than a child himself…
arista
15-07-2024, 07:02 AM
…yeah, I was just going to post that…the media are reports are that he moved in front of whichever of his family that were there …to shield them from the bullets…he’d just not long celebrated his 59th birthday also, so much of his life to look forward to….very sad…
Nice of him to save others.
That Evil 20-year-old Terrorist
Murdered him.
arista
15-07-2024, 07:04 AM
…another horrendous crime/killing which was committed by a very young person…barely much more than a child himself…
Yes the Terrorist was bullied at school.
His Dad and Mum need to talk to one of the press
as it was Dad's AR-15 weapon used.
arista
15-07-2024, 07:08 AM
One Lady who lived on the Road
spoke to a BBC reporter
she has an angry dog on her lap,
in a car.
She said the Terrorist Thomas Matthew Crooks
was on the School Bus
Images of Crooks’ body reviewed by the Associated Press shows he appears to have been wearing a T-shirt from Demolition Ranch, a popular YouTube channel with more than 11.6 million subscribers that regularly posts videos that show creator Matt Carriker firing off handguns and assault rifles at targets that include human mannequins and vehicles.
…he was also a member of a local gun club in his area…
Nicky91
15-07-2024, 07:27 AM
an outkast what Thomas Matthew Crooks was
wow as if i couldn't tell you that either
same type as the shooters in the columbine school massacre, also a similar type to Anders Breivik back at the Utoya massacre and Oslo bombing
America is so close to the edge at the moment. This has been coming for a while, and it's been obvious to everyone but Americans it seems
Crimson Dynamo
15-07-2024, 07:59 AM
NEW - Trump Assassin video shows him crawling on the roof while multiple people point
him out to police
They yelled about him for *almost an entire minute*
It’s insane how Secret Service allowed this amateur to almost kill Trump
Video here: https://x.com/DC_Draino/status/1812642041391915384
Nicky91
15-07-2024, 08:02 AM
NEW - Trump Assassin video shows him crawling on the roof while multiple people point
him out to police
They yelled about him for *almost an entire minute*
It’s insane how Secret Service allowed this amateur to almost kill Trump
Video here: https://x.com/DC_Draino/status/1812642041391915384
yes they should've used killer drones as security in the sky, so they could locate him sooner and destroy that stinking lowest of low scum loser into tiny little bits
NEW - Trump Assassin video shows him crawling on the roof while multiple people point
him out to police
They yelled about him for *almost an entire minute*
It’s insane how Secret Service allowed this amateur to almost kill Trump
Video here: https://x.com/DC_Draino/status/1812642041391915384
it's not a new report, they interviewed the guy who saw him 20 mins after it happened. It seems like he was out of their field of view, and they sent people to check the roof which takes time
The bigger question i think, is how the guy basically knew he was in a blind spot to snipers
Cherie
15-07-2024, 09:19 AM
NEW - Trump Assassin video shows him crawling on the roof while multiple people point
him out to police
They yelled about him for *almost an entire minute*
It’s insane how Secret Service allowed this amateur to almost kill Trump
Video here: https://x.com/DC_Draino/status/1812642041391915384
I posted this yesterday and you po poohed it :nono:
Crimson Dynamo
15-07-2024, 09:31 AM
it's not a new report, they interviewed the guy who saw him 20 mins after it happened. It seems like he was out of their field of view, and they sent people to check the roof which takes time
The bigger question i think, is how the guy basically knew he was in a blind spot to snipers
Its a new video and is better than one man's muddled recollections as this can be timed
Cherie
15-07-2024, 09:47 AM
it's not a new report, they interviewed the guy who saw him 20 mins after it happened. It seems like he was out of their field of view, and they sent people to check the roof which takes time
The bigger question i think, is how the guy basically knew he was in a blind spot to snipers
I think there is more to this story, and no I don't think Trump was in on it, but someone was paid big bucks to let it happen
Niamh.
15-07-2024, 09:49 AM
I think there is more to this story, and no I don't think Trump was in on it, but someone was paid big bucks to let it happen
I agree, I seriously doubt Trump was in on it, no way he'd let someone shoot in the direction of his head, way to much room for error there.
an outkast what Thomas Matthew Crooks was
wow as if i couldn't tell you that either
same type as the shooters in the columbine school massacre, also a similar type to Anders Breivik back at the Utoya massacre and Oslo bombingAnd outcast. Just like Lee Harvey Oswald.
I agree, I seriously doubt Trump was in on it, no way he'd let someone shoot in the direction of his head, way to much room for error there.
If it had been Biden, it would be more believable because he tends to be static and stiff. Trumps constantly moving his head, which i think is what saved him in the end
There are bound to be loads of conspiracy theories. Maybe it wasn't Trump, but there are plenty people on the republican side of the fence that would be happy to take out Trump, not just the dems
Niamh.
15-07-2024, 10:36 AM
If it had been Biden, it would be more believable because he tends to be static and stiff. Trumps constantly moving his head, which i think is what saved him in the end
There are bound to be loads of conspiracy theories. Maybe it wasn't Trump, but there are plenty people on the republican side of the fence that would be happy to take out Trump, not just the dems
Oh absolutely, I don't doubt that and yeah great point about how much he moves his head around as well, no chance he does that while knowing there's a gun going to be fired at it any second
Crimson Dynamo
15-07-2024, 10:41 AM
A source within the Secret Service community tells RCP that the agency’s
rules of engagement in this situation are to wait until the president is fired
upon to return fire.
“You want to take a shot then find out the guy was holding a telescope?” the
source asked. “The Secret Service is by nature reactive … and you better be
right when you do react or you’re f-----d.”
The Secret Service protocol requires that any counter sniper aware of a
potential shooter must radio directly to the intelligence division team to
respond and investigate. In this case, the investigation may have been cut
short by the shooter firing his weapon, so the counter sniper then fired as
quickly as possible in return.
The source praised the counter sniper who acquired the target and responded
within three seconds, calling their performance “incredible.”
:shocked:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2024/07/14/gop_was_investigating_secret_service_before_assass ination_attempt__151261.html
Liam-
15-07-2024, 10:44 AM
I really wouldn’t put it past some of the mags lunatics to have set it all up to try and paint Trump as the ultimate victim they pretend he is
Niamh.
15-07-2024, 10:48 AM
I really wouldn’t put it past some of the mags lunatics to have set it all up to try and paint Trump as the ultimate victim they pretend he is
I don't know, would they really want him dead though? it was way too close to his head to take that gamble. If there were republicans involved I'd say it was ones who do want him dead, martyring him but also getting him out of the picture because he's such a loose cannon
Crimson Dynamo
15-07-2024, 10:50 AM
You have a woman half Trumps height on the podium trying to shield him (and
failing) and then you have 3 small women at the limo - one panicking and failing to reholster her gun.
DEI at work in the Secret Service - absolute madness but this is where we are with this sh1t
GsGhiE7iCgE
A source within the Secret Service community tells RCP that the agency’s
rules of engagement in this situation are to wait until the president is fired
upon to return fire.
“You want to take a shot then find out the guy was holding a telescope?” the
source asked. “The Secret Service is by nature reactive … and you better be
right when you do react or you’re f-----d.”
The Secret Service protocol requires that any counter sniper aware of a
potential shooter must radio directly to the intelligence division team to
respond and investigate. In this case, the investigation may have been cut
short by the shooter firing his weapon, so the counter sniper then fired as
quickly as possible in return.
The source praised the counter sniper who acquired the target and responded
within three seconds, calling their performance “incredible.”
:shocked:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2024/07/14/gop_was_investigating_secret_service_before_assass ination_attempt__151261.html
this is true to a certain extent. You can't for example just shoot and kill a maintenance man, you have to confirm that the person has intent to cause harm. Someone from the police climbed up on to the roof and confirmed it was a shooter but didn't have his weapon ready (very strange) He had to duck for cover to protect himself
Once you see a guy with a rifle on the roof, its a different ball game of course.
My thoughts are, rather than sending an officer up to climb the roof, why didnt they simply send a drone up. Thats what i find a bit odd. A simple drone circling above the event should have spotted it instantly and allowed the secret service to provide cover for Trump
arista
15-07-2024, 10:53 AM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/15/11/87350715-0-image-m-16_1721038582579.jpg
Same old problem
Police on the ground not talking to the FBI.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13635097/Secret-Service-trump-assassination-Thomas-Matthew-Crooks.html
Like 9/11
Arab men learnt to fly just straight only
they paid cash in Florida
local fat cop
not communicating with FBI
I really wouldn’t put it past some of the mags lunatics to have set it all up to try and paint Trump as the ultimate victim they pretend he isAnd Sandy Hook was a hoax
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSdUnrPWEAAASsZ?format=jpg&name=smallThese are the MAGA lunatics Liam is talking about.
And these are the sane people to Liam
1812344395569471627
arista
15-07-2024, 11:03 AM
These are the MAGA lunatics Liam is talking about.
He is a Normal Person
Votes Trump
He is a Fireman.
Liam can not mean that nice fella
who murdered by that Evil Terrorist.
Here's another one of the sane ones
1812276736970662267
He is a Normal Person
Votes Trump
He is a Fireman.
Liam can not mean that nice fella
who murdered by that Evil Terrorist.He voted Trump and attended Trump rallies. Yes this is who Liam is talking about.
Liam-
15-07-2024, 11:07 AM
Actually his twitter account was found and he was openly a fan of political violence against people he disagreed with so
arista
15-07-2024, 11:07 AM
He voted Trump and attended Trump rallies. Yes this is who Liam is talking about.
But that was a Normal working man
So Liam is wrong about him
arista
15-07-2024, 11:08 AM
Here's another one of the sane ones
1812276736970662267
She sounds Dangerous
Liam-
15-07-2024, 11:09 AM
It’s a shame to see otherwise good people buy into the cult and go down the route that most Trump supporters go down, he died a hero and he probably saved many people in the line of duty, but he was unequivocally a supporter of the atmosphere Trump created
Crimson Dynamo
15-07-2024, 11:10 AM
Liam the guy isnt even in the ground
stop making yourself look bad
:umm2:
Livia
15-07-2024, 11:11 AM
Here's another one of the sane ones
1812276736970662267
The trouble with the Internet. The stupidest, most muddle-headed people have a platform.
i think under the hood, most americans are quite happy with political violence and more and more are choosing to say it openly. I actually remember the 60's where assassination attempts in america were common.
In my opinion, americans are just reverting to type
Liam-
15-07-2024, 11:14 AM
Trump played golf the day after incident, no bandages, no visible injuries and after a shot, joked him not missing unlike the shooter, shows how callous he is when a devoted follower of his was murdered
Cherie
15-07-2024, 11:17 AM
And these are the sane people to Liam
1812344395569471627
How very profound, talk about teaching grandma to suck eggs :laugh:
Liam-
15-07-2024, 11:19 AM
https://twitter.com/boricuabc2/status/1812554165748683187?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ
Finally someone in the media with the balls to acknowledge Trumps hateful, violent, bloodthirsty rhetoric
arista
15-07-2024, 11:23 AM
It’s a shame to see otherwise good people buy into the cult and go down the route that most Trump supporters go down, he died a hero and he probably saved many people in the line of duty, but he was unequivocally a supporter of the atmosphere Trump created
Yes
he is Missed in the Community
because he did save many lives.
Good Man
killed by a pathetic Biden Cash Sender
Evil Terrorist.
Liam-
15-07-2024, 11:25 AM
He has killed by a gun loving, nutty Republican
arista
15-07-2024, 11:29 AM
Finally someone in the media with the balls to acknowledge Trumps hateful, violent, bloodthirsty rhetoric
Sure Liam
But there is now
also a bloodthirsty rhetoric on the Left.
Bill Mayer
tonight on SkyComdeyHD
debates them.
user104658
15-07-2024, 11:31 AM
He has killed by a gun loving, nutty Republican
Trumpers and Tibbrumpers: "This is DISGUSTANG someone died and Messiah Trump was almost killed by a gun-toting maniac!! It's all Joe Biden's fault!!"
Reasonable people: "Maybe we should put restrictions on gun ownership or at the very least ownership of this sort of rifle?"
Trumpers: "NO. Reeee! NO! Joe Biden!"
arista
15-07-2024, 11:32 AM
He has killed by a gun loving, nutty Republican
No
you join that group
so you can enter everything.
He Paid Cash to President Biden.
Livia
15-07-2024, 11:40 AM
Trumpers and Tibbrumpers: "This is DISGUSTANG someone died and Messiah Trump was almost killed by a gun-toting maniac!! It's all Joe Biden's fault!!"
Reasonable people: "Maybe we should put restrictions on gun ownership or at the very least ownership of this sort of rifle?"
Trumpers: "NO. Reeee! NO! Joe Biden!"
I imagine you're portraying yourself as one of the reasonable people. I'd remind you that "we" have no control over gun ownership in another country.
…there was no cash paid to President Biden…Thomas Matthew Crooks so far as we know, made one small donation to some Democratic Party organisation one time when he was 17yrs old and not even an adult yet…he then went on to hold Republican views more than Democratic views…(…we are told…) …but he was still barely an adult at 20yrs old…so for me this is less about left/right…Democrat/Republic and all of that type of agenda…it’s how a man of such a young age became so obsessed with guns, which is what seems to have been his motivation atm…he saw himself as some type of ‘crack shot’ or something….the environment that causes that in young people in a gun holding society is what should be scrutinised more…but it won’t be because it’s American culture…
Cherie
15-07-2024, 11:46 AM
I imagine you're portraying yourself as one of the reasonable people. I'd remind you that "we" have no control over gun ownership in another country.
Exactly, not sure why people tie themselves in knots over gun ownership in America, that is a decision for the American people, nothing to do with us, you can have a view on it but knife crime doesn't seem as common as it is in the UK and I am sure they have a view on that also, banning knifes and restricting sales to over 25s has made no inroads into stopping it either, we are not any better than them just because they 'bear arms' and that always seems to be the narrative, dumb Americans with their guns
Crimson Dynamo
15-07-2024, 11:48 AM
Matt Goodwin
@GoodwinMJ
"In Europe, too, after the attempted assassination of conservative Robert Fico
in Slovakia, a significant chunk of the media essentially implied that Fico
deserved to be shot because he held right-wing views"
user104658
15-07-2024, 11:55 AM
Exactly, not sure why people tie themselves in knots over gun ownership in America, that is a decision for the American people, nothing to do with us, you can have a view on it but knife crime doesn't seem as common as it is in the UK and I am sure they have a view on that also, banning knifes and restricting sales to over 25s has made no inroads into stopping it either, we are not any better than them just because they 'bear arms' and that always seems to be the narrative, dumb Americans with their guns
You can 100% have a view on gun ownership in the US it when people who are endlessly insisting on the right to gun ownership are screeching all sorts of nonsense when their beloved orange messiah has had his ear shot off, when they spend vast amounts of energy justifying/explaining why tens of thousands of dead civilians every single year isn't justification for gun control.
Knife crime is primarily gang-related crime and the reason they have less knife crime is because the gangs carry guns :joker:.
But that's a bit of an aside and not the point. The point, really, is not that I have an issue with American stances on guns (their own business, as you say) but rather that I find it nonsensical when people are out in force blaming all sorts of silly things as being "the reason this happened!!" without taking a second to say "Y'know, maybe it would have been better if he had only been able to buy a Maccies Milkshake on the local highstreet, instead of an AR15".
Livia
15-07-2024, 12:01 PM
Exactly, not sure why people tie themselves in knots over gun ownership in America, that is a decision for the American people, nothing to do with us, you can have a view on it but knife crime doesn't seem as common as it is in the UK and I am sure they have a view on that also, banning knifes and restricting sales to over 25s has made no inroads into stopping it either, we are not any better than them just because they 'bear arms' and that always seems to be the narrative, dumb Americans with their guns
Brazil has a higher number deaths by firearms, I don't see anyone imagining they can influence gun policy there. Going by my own family members in the US, most of whom own guns, they are fully versed in, and committed to, gun safety. I do think the US should think about restricting some firearms, but that's for them to decide.
I'm glad we have tough restrictions here though because after the football last night I get the feeling my brother might have been in the frame of mind to climb a tower with a rifle.
user104658
15-07-2024, 12:07 PM
When you have the most politically influential country in the world at the point of being extremely polarised politically... and the current cultural beacon that represents the side of that divide that (classically) is more in favour of unrestricted gun ownership gets shot...
...and you say "nah this isn't an opportune time to think or talk about gun politics it's irrelevant and a waste of time".
:think:
Really indicative of the age-old "TiBB debates is really not the place to have... debates" quandry :umm2:
arista
15-07-2024, 12:08 PM
[donation to some Democratic Party organisation one time when he was 17yrs old]
Yes when Joe Biden became President
The Terrorist Backs Biden
that is why he tried to Kill Trump.
Good job Trump turned his head
as the bullet clipped an ear.
Cherie
15-07-2024, 12:11 PM
When you have the most politically influential country in the world at the point of being extremely polarised politically... and the current cultural beacon that represents the side of that divide that (classically) is more in favour of unrestricted gun ownership gets shot...
...and you say "nah this isn't an opportune time to think or talk about gun politics it's irrelevant and a waste of time".
:think:
Really indicative of the age-old "TiBB debates is really not the place to have... debates" quandry :umm2:
I didn't say people couldn't talk about it, what I said was I didn't understand why people got so heated about something they cant control....is that okay SB, can I comment like that or....
also my point about banning still stands, people will always find a way ....as exampled by zombie knives in the UK
Livia
15-07-2024, 12:13 PM
I didn't say people couldn't talk about it, what I said was I didn't understand why people got so heated about something they cant control....is that okay SB, can I comment like that or....
also my point about banning still stands, people will always find a way ....as exampled by zombie knives in the UK
People are still shot in the UK. Nutters will always find a way, like you say. Look at Jo Cox.
…I personally don’t think there is any ‘conspiracy’ type thing attached to this, whatsoever…I think that it’s exactly what we saw, which was an attempt on the life of Trump, which has taken the life of someone else and seriously harmed two others…its obviously a huge security breach and lots of questions to be answered…but I imagine that there may be and will quite probably be those vulnerable spots often in political rallies …those vulnerable places and security blind spots are just generally not occupied by someone who has the intention that this person did….its a very rare thing for that to be part of those combination of events which has led to what happened…they didn’t get to him quickly enough, there would have possibly been other security things that demanded attention also…so it was all just very, very unfortunate and has resulted in loss of innocent life…these things that ‘should never happen’ sometimes just do happen, sadly…but I think that it was just a set of circumstances and lapses etc, but no conspiracy type stuff…
Crimson Dynamo
15-07-2024, 12:19 PM
This is the issue - "that the agency rules of engagement in this situation are to wait until the president is fired upon to return fire."
the rules of engagement are far more detailed than 1 sentence
The uk police carry guns, and have snipers on rooftops at certain events. We have no guns, so they must think something could still happen in our country that diesnt allow the carrying of guns.
Crimson Dynamo
15-07-2024, 12:37 PM
the rules of engagement are far more detailed than 1 sentence
well going by the weekend they really are not
user104658
15-07-2024, 12:46 PM
well going by the weekend they really are not
It is all sus IMO the return fire was near-instant which means they must have had eyes on the shooter before he fired the gun. Or they're using aimbot? Takes a few seconds (at bare minimum) to locate a shooter, be certain that it is the shooter, aim and return fire so unless the guns were already pointed at him it all happened rather quickly.
Crimson Dynamo
15-07-2024, 12:50 PM
It is all sus IMO the return fire was near-instant which means they must have had eyes on the shooter before he fired the gun. Or they're using aimbot? Takes a few seconds (at bare minimum) to locate a shooter, be certain that it is the shooter, aim and return fire so unless the guns were already pointed at him it all happened rather quickly.
The delay was 3 seconds and the sniper never moved as there is a video on the sniper for many seconds before - so they had him in sights and crazily were waiting for him to shoot
user104658
15-07-2024, 12:58 PM
The delay was 3 seconds and the sniper never moved as there is a video on the sniper for many seconds before - so they had him in sights and crazily were waiting for him to shoot
Smth fuky going on though still, not to get too conspiritorial, but one of the reasons things like this don't happen all that often is that when someone like Trump is making a public speech to a crowd like this, there aren't supposed to be possible spots to fire from.
They're supposed to survey the area, and any rooftops with a line of sight to the podium are supposed to be blocked off and probably staffed. Usually if they can't do that, they'll put bulletproof screens up which have been seen multiple times in various US election tours. He shouldn't have been able to be on that roof with a shot at Trump. If it was just a security oversight it was a HUGE one.
Nicky91
15-07-2024, 01:15 PM
meanwhile
Georgia minister Irakli Kobakhidze blames this attack on the ''Global War Party'' a recurring conspiracy theory created by the georgian dream (pro russian party) alleging a mysterious international organization that exerts influence on the Western world from the shadows
https://www.interpressnews.ge/en/article/132593-irakli-kobakhidze-the-global-war-party-does-not-change-methods-in-the-21st-century-liberal-fascism-radicalism-polarization-hatred-and-bloody-attacks-on-politicians-have-become-commonplace-in-the-us-and-europe/
https://www.politico.eu/article/freemasons-global-war-party-conspiring-georgian-dream-party-claims-russia-ivanishvili/
DemRed
15-07-2024, 01:30 PM
It was either great incompetence or something more sinister, but as they shot dead the shooter, it will likely never be unraveled.
My best wishes to Trump for a speedy recovery and my deep felt condolances to Corey Comperatore and his family.
user104658
15-07-2024, 01:47 PM
It was either great incompetence or something more sinister, but as they shot dead the shooter, it will likely never be unraveled.
My best wishes to Trump for a speedy recovery and my deep felt condolances to Corey Comperatore and his family.
The shooter who was barely out of high school and yet orchestrated a nearly-successful attempt on the life of, quite literally, probably the most high-profile politician in the world other than the POTUS himself (and let's face it, probably including).
Like I said above if it is a security oversight, it's an immense one to the point of being pretty much inconceivable. It would be a huge failing even if this was a well planned and professionally orchestrated assassination attempt. But nah it was just some kid with a gun on a rooftop, that hadn't been blocked, and no one was watching, really near the podium, with a clear line of sight. Someone make it make sense.
Crimson Dynamo
15-07-2024, 02:12 PM
8aKIMiaYjis
if they didnt see the guy's rifle, they simply couldn't shoot, The reason they were able to fire was they would see the flashes from the rifle as he shot
When you are talking procedure to kill someone, it is more than 1 sentence, despite expert LT's proclamations
user104658
15-07-2024, 02:45 PM
if they didnt see the guy's rifle, they simply couldn't shoot, The reason they were able to fire was they would see the flashes from the rifle as he shot
When you are talking procedure to kill someone, it is more than 1 sentence, despite expert LT's proclamations
You have to shout, "He's coming right for us!", then it's OK to shoot.
The shooter who was barely out of high school and yet orchestrated a nearly-successful attempt on the life of, quite literally, probably the most high-profile politician in the world other than the POTUS himself (and let's face it, probably including).
Like I said above if it is a security oversight, it's an immense one to the point of being pretty much inconceivable. It would be a huge failing even if this was a well planned and professionally orchestrated assassination attempt. But nah it was just some kid with a gun on a rooftop, that hadn't been blocked, and no one was watching, really near the podium, with a clear line of sight. Someone make it make sense.
…the sense of life is that not everything in life make sense…
GiRTh
15-07-2024, 02:56 PM
1812848096914690190I'm stunned by this. A slam dunk case has been thrown out due to a technicality.
Trumps gonna win.
i always thought they used bullet proof glass to protect them at public events. For example, the famous speech Trump made on the 6th Jan was behind a shield. If there was a line of site issue, that must surely be the easiest solution, and doesnt rely on any individual for protection
I'm stunned by this. A slam dunk case has been thrown out due to a technicality.
Trumps gonna win.
you say it was a slam dunk case, but it had a very bias judge, so it was never going to go to trial and the prosecutor had several opportunities to change the trajectory and didn't bother
GiRTh
15-07-2024, 03:04 PM
Agree. The evidence was quite overwhelming but that counts for nothing with a biased judge.
Liam-
15-07-2024, 03:04 PM
It can be appealed and she can be replaced and the judges have already overruled the biased judge multiple times because of several of her rulings, she was always going to kick the can down the road as far as she could
Crimson Dynamo
15-07-2024, 03:19 PM
The Donald will make his VP choice today!
:amazed:
Crimson Dynamo
15-07-2024, 03:42 PM
Matt Walsh
@MattWalshBlog
Here’s the official story so far: a random 20 year old acting completely alone
walked within 150 yards of a presidential campaign rally with a rifle, climbed
onto a rooftop in full view of Secret Service snipers, set up his shot and fired
without anyone intervening and with no help from anyone. This 20 year old is
also so politically radical as to attempt an assassination and yet not radical
enough to have ever posted any political writings or commentary on any
social media site ever in his life. He also wrote no manifesto and left behind
no indication about why he did it. His last and only political act, before
attempting to kill the Republican candidate, was to register as a Republican.
You must believe this and ask no questions about it or else you are a
conspiracy theorist. And one thing we know about assassination attempts is
that there’s never any conspiring involved.
Nicky91
15-07-2024, 03:42 PM
The Donald will make his VP choice today!
:amazed:
Ron DeSantis pls :fc:
The Donald will make his VP choice today!
:amazed:
nobody has talked about him choosing a family member as vp, that would be my outside bet
Crimson Dynamo
15-07-2024, 03:51 PM
nobody has talked about him choosing a family member as vp, that would be my outside bet
he did say it would be a surprise!
Crimson Dynamo
15-07-2024, 03:56 PM
Trump Media stock soars
Following the former president’s assassination attempt, shares of Trump Media and Technology Group surged over 30 per cent on its first trading day.
As the company’s largest shareholder with over 114 million shares, Donald Trump saw a substantial increase in his net worth, adding hundreds of millions of dollars .
Trump Media is the parent company of Truth Social, the former president’s social media platform.
Crimson Dynamo
15-07-2024, 04:02 PM
Mr Trump wrote on Truth Social:
“As we move forward in Uniting our Nation after the horrific events on
Saturday, this dismissal of the Lawless Indictment in Florida should be just
the first step, followed quickly by the dismissal of ALL the Witch Hunts — The
January 6th Hoax in Washington, D.C., the Manhattan D.A.’s Zombie Case,
the New York A.G. Scam, Fake Claims about a woman I never met (a decades
old photo in a line with her then husband does not count), and the Georgia
“Perfect” Phone Call charges.
“The Democrat Justice Department coordinated ALL of these Political Attacks,
which are an Election Interference conspiracy against Joe Biden’s Political
Opponent, ME.
“Let us come together to END all Weaponization of our Justice System, and
Make America Great Again!”
Nicky91
15-07-2024, 04:16 PM
he did say it would be a surprise!
yes Daddy Ronny would be a surprise, since he first competed against The Donald in the republican elections
https://www.politico.com/dims4/default/dffeee0/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F6e%2Fb6%2 Fe745dc9145d0b7498b92f41c7160%2F200304-trump-desantis-rally-gty-773.jpg
:flutter:
and he wouldn't be a lying snitch, unlike Mike ''The Rat'' Pence
Crimson Dynamo
15-07-2024, 04:24 PM
Faded actor Jack Black went on stage with his band over the weekend and his bandmate
said "don't miss Trump next time" to laughs from the audience.
A month ago, he was a featured speaker at Biden's fundraiser in Los Angeles.
"We must come together" indeed.
SHort video here: https://x.com/greg_price11/status/1812870638580687142
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSiZozbX0AAndjh?format=jpg&name=small
user104658
15-07-2024, 04:48 PM
DESGUSTANG
Crimson Dynamo
15-07-2024, 05:07 PM
Meet Tony Bendele, a firefighter in Sunbury, PA. He’s upset that the bullet
missed.
A bullet did hit Corey though, a rally attendee who was also a firefighter.
This is especially disgusting coming from a fellow firefighter and someone who’s
supposed to protect others.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSfJab2WgAAG9e4?format=jpg&name=smallhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSfJab0XEAAa1Mj?format=jpg&name=small
The next day....Tony has resigned his position as a firefighter
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSiAFMpbsAE-ebR?format=jpg&name=small
Liam-
15-07-2024, 05:11 PM
A hero firefighter and his family, abused and threatened with violence by maga extremists because they were hurt by words, they are so fragile and violent it’s disgusting
Trump played golf the day after incident, no bandages, no visible injuries and after a shot, joked him not missing unlike the shooter, shows how callous he is when a devoted follower of his was murdered
Seems like those reports were false (unsurprisingly as it doesn't seem very likely). The source was basically one Reddit claim and a guy who incorrectly posted an old video of Trump golfing
https://www.timesnownews.com/world/us/us-news/did-trump-play-golf-in-bedminster-on-sunday-after-assassination-attempt-video-and-reddit-post-spark-debate-article-111740919/amp
Crimson Dynamo
15-07-2024, 05:42 PM
Seems like those reports were false (unsurprisingly as it doesn't seem very likely). The source was basically one Reddit claim and a guy who incorrectly posted an old video of Trump golfing
https://www.timesnownews.com/world/us/us-news/did-trump-play-golf-in-bedminster-on-sunday-after-assassination-attempt-video-and-reddit-post-spark-debate-article-111740919/amp
sadly, Liam has a long history of fake news...
Crimson Dynamo
15-07-2024, 05:42 PM
On a more positive note..
Political Polls
@PpollingNumbers
#New General Election
Arizona - 🔴 Trump +7
Georgia - 🔴 Trump +4
Michigan - 🔴 Trump +2
North Carolina - 🔴 Trump +4
Nevada - 🔴 Trump +4
Pennsylvania - 🔴 Trump +3
Wisconsin - 🔴 Trump +5
The Donald will make his VP choice today!
:amazed:J D Vance is my prediction.
Other possibility
Marco Rubio
Outsider Long shots
General Mike Flynn
Robert Kennedy jr
Tucker Carlson
Crimson Dynamo
15-07-2024, 06:25 PM
iwEssxReZIc
Crimson Dynamo
15-07-2024, 06:56 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSi4EgHXEAA6K_w?format=jpg&name=small
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSiAFMpbsAE-ebR?format=jpg&name=small
A computer is a tool, not a toy, sir.
....
Just saw this.
2 minutes of warning he was on the roof and they didn't get this guy until after he started firing. What an absolute disgrace. We either suck hard or this was intentional negligence. I don't see where we don't have that concern. The crowd had ample time to run away into a field. That's way too much time. They must've found the lowest caliber agents to serve or they intentionally took their time. Either way, it's does not look good, imo. They had video of one of the agents ducking to avoid fire before covering Trump. It's just unheard of from the SS and unfathomable.
1812825656004059586
Liam-
15-07-2024, 10:54 PM
https://twitter.com/meidastouch/status/1812964305673068979?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ
Maga on maga crime
Crimson Dynamo
15-07-2024, 10:57 PM
A neighbour told me
😁
Liam-
15-07-2024, 11:07 PM
https://twitter.com/steamboatusa/status/1812969269266948108?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ
No comment necessary
Online posts falsely claims sharpshooter was told not to fire on suspect in Trump shooting
CLAIM: A law enforcement sniper assigned to former President Donald Trump’s rally Saturday in Butler, Penn., says the head of the Secret Service ordered him not to shoot the suspect accused of attempting to assassinate Trump.
AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. Snipers killed the suspected shooter moments after he opened fire on the former president, bloodying Trump’s ear, killing one rally attendee and injuring two. The Secret Service and the Butler Police Department say they have no agents, officers or employees with the name of the person claiming to be the sharpshooter.
THE FACTS: Following Saturday’s attempt on Trump’s life, a poster on the online message board 4chan wrote that they were a sniper assigned to the rally, and that they can be seen in a photo of two law enforcement officers on the roof at the rally.
“My name is Jonathan Willis,” the poster wrote. “I came here to inform the public that I had the assassin in my sights for at least 3 minutes, but the head of the secret service refused to give the order to take out the perp. 100% the top brass prevented me from killing the assassin before he took the shots at president Trump,” the post claimed.
But there is no agent or officer by the name of Jonathan Willis working for the Secret Service or the Butler police, and no internet records of such an officer could be located.
A spokesman for the Secret Service said snipers are trained and instructed to act whenever they see a threat, and do not await instructions before taking a shot to neutralize a suspect. He said he couldn’t discuss the specifics of agency communication or the details of the ongoing investigation but said the post was false.
Witnesses at the rally alerted law enforcement to the suspect, identified as Thomas Matthew Crooks, after they saw him perched atop a nearby roof. A local law enforcement officer climbed to the roof and found Crooks, who pointed the rifle at the officer. The officer retreated down the ladder, and the gunman quickly fired toward Trump, the officials said. That’s when U.S. Secret Service gunmen shot him, officials have said.
arista
16-07-2024, 12:49 AM
[The officer retreated down the ladder,
and the gunman quickly fired toward Trump,
the officials said. That’s when
U.S. Secret Service gunmen shot him, officials have said.]
Yes that Cop should have Fired his weapon
in the air, from the ladder
Then the Secret Service Sniper
could have then shot the Terrorist faster
and the Firemen would still be alive
Mystic Mock
16-07-2024, 01:23 AM
Sure Liam
But there is now
also a bloodthirsty rhetoric on the Left.
Bill Mayer
tonight on SkyComdeyHD
debates them.
The problem is that both sides are incredibly intolerant towards each other and that is what is leading to violence against each other.
arista
16-07-2024, 01:27 AM
The problem is that both sides are incredibly intolerant towards each other and that is what is leading to violence against each other.
Sure
But at least Bill Maher debates both sides.
Unlike MSNBC HD
Mystic Mock
16-07-2024, 01:42 AM
A hero firefighter and his family, abused and threatened with violence by maga extremists because they were hurt by words, they are so fragile and violent it’s disgusting
Tbf, his comments could be taken as incitement.
I feel sorry for his family.
Mystic Mock
16-07-2024, 01:50 AM
Sure
But at least Bill Maher debates both sides.
Unlike MSNBC HD
I do like that about Bill Maher.
https://twitter.com/steamboatusa/status/1812969269266948108?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ
No comment necessary
…strangely I was just reading this story in more detail…apparently Corey Comperatore‘s wife told the New York Times that Trump or his camp hadn’t at all been in contact with the family since her husband lost his life at the rally…Joe Biden had contacted her but she didn’t speak to him because she didn’t feel that Corey would have wanted her to, being a staunch Republican all of his life…she didn’t in any way hold Biden responsible but she just didn’t feel that Corey would have wanted her to talk to a devoted democrat…
…so sad, even in death that the political divide takes prime position before anything else and all of those words of…’Corey lost his life just because of his politics…’…and yet his politics are still receiving the more consideration than anything else because apparently in death, his own wishes would have centred around his politics…in that he wouldn’t have wanted his widow to allow any condolences or words of comfort/empathy from a Democrat…
…I honestly believe that many people sadly don’t see people anymore, they just look at someone and see a political belief…
Mystic Mock
16-07-2024, 06:04 AM
…strangely I was just reading this story in more detail…apparently Corey Comperatore‘s wife told the New York Times that Trump or his camp hadn’t at all been in contact with the family since her husband lost his life at the rally…Joe Biden had contacted her but she didn’t speak to him because she didn’t feel that Corey would have wanted her to, being a staunch Republican all of his life…she didn’t in any way hold Biden responsible but she just didn’t feel that Corey would have wanted her to talk to a devoted democrat…
…so sad, even in death that the political divide takes prime position before anything else and all of those words of…’Corey lost his life just because of his politics…’…and yet his politics are still receiving the more consideration than anything else because apparently in death, his wishes would have centred around his politics…
…I honestly believe that many people sadly don’t see people anymore, they just look at someone and see a political belief…
I 100% think that this is the case for a lot of people.
It's why some people don't care about what happened to the Firefighter, or what nearly happened to Trump because they're Republicans, which in some people's eyes is a dirty word.
Similar issues with the anti-Democrat side, only just add Paedophilia allegations into the mix as the only difference really.
Cherie
16-07-2024, 06:06 AM
…strangely I was just reading this story in more detail…apparently Corey Comperatore‘s wife told the New York Times that Trump or his camp hadn’t at all been in contact with the family since her husband lost his life at the rally…Joe Biden had contacted her but she didn’t speak to him because she didn’t feel that Corey would have wanted her to, being a staunch Republican all of his life…she didn’t in any way hold Biden responsible but she just didn’t feel that Corey would have wanted her to talk to a devoted democrat…
…so sad, even in death that the political divide takes prime position before anything else and all of those words of…’Corey lost his life just because of his politics…’…and yet his politics are still receiving the more consideration than anything else because apparently in death, his wishes would have centred around his politics…
…I honestly believe that many people sadly don’t see people anymore, they just look at someone and see a political belief…
Great point Ammi, I heard something similar being said yesterday on a radio show people just dont respect alterative views any more ...its just division and hate on both sides
Niamh.
16-07-2024, 07:16 AM
…strangely I was just reading this story in more detail…apparently Corey Comperatore‘s wife told the New York Times that Trump or his camp hadn’t at all been in contact with the family since her husband lost his life at the rally…Joe Biden had contacted her but she didn’t speak to him because she didn’t feel that Corey would have wanted her to, being a staunch Republican all of his life…she didn’t in any way hold Biden responsible but she just didn’t feel that Corey would have wanted her to talk to a devoted democrat…
…so sad, even in death that the political divide takes prime position before anything else and all of those words of…’Corey lost his life just because of his politics…’…and yet his politics are still receiving the more consideration than anything else because apparently in death, his own wishes would have centred around his politics…in that he wouldn’t have wanted his widow to allow any condolences or words of comfort/empathy from a Democrat…
…I honestly believe that many people sadly don’t see people anymore, they just look at someone and see a political belief…That's so sad. And I absolutely agree with you.
telling america to tone down political violence is like telling the french to do it. It's never going to happen. Their whole republic was born from political violence and the polarisation is such at the moment that it is nearly identical in how it is going to play out
Mystic Mock
16-07-2024, 07:53 AM
telling america to tone down political violence is like telling the french to do it. It's never going to happen. Their whole republic was born from political violence and the polarisation is such at the moment that it is nearly identical in how it is going to play out
The problem with the Americans doing it is that some of their neighbouring countries and allies citizens might decide to copy them, if they can see that it's A-okay to dehumanize like the way a lot of Americans are currently dehumanizing each other.
Ninastar
16-07-2024, 12:14 PM
That’s absolutely what it comes down to. Not seeing people as human, but seeing them as a political belief. It’s awful. And the sad thing is it’s on both sides. I can honestly say that I have always fought for people to look beyond political opinions and just see people for who they are.
I have friends and family all over the political spectrum. Not one of them has ever hated on me for my sexuality or personal beliefs and I even know some crazy maga ppl.
I just hate all the name calling, the baiting and the pettiness this brings from all sides of politics.
Being happy a firefighter is dead and calling him a nazi because he was a trump supporter…. It’s just gross and tells me a lot about you as a person
I always wonder how many of these people who just look for a reason to hate on republicans/democrats have ever actually been to America and experienced what it’s truly like, not just what the media feeds you
I remember being so nervous to move to the south of America because of all the **** I heard. It turned out to be the friendliest place I had ever lived. They had a pride parade yearly and where I lived in the UK didn’t even celebrate it yet. I met amazing people of all races, backgrounds, political alignments etc and honestly, the only really crazy stuff I hear is from people on the internet
That’s absolutely what it comes down to. Not seeing people as human, but seeing them as a political belief. It’s awful. And the sad thing is it’s on both sides. I can honestly say that I have always fought for people to look beyond political opinions and just see people for who they are.
I have friends and family all over the political spectrum. Not one of them has ever hated on me for my sexuality or personal beliefs and I even know some crazy maga ppl.
I just hate all the name calling, the baiting and the pettiness this brings from all sides of politics.
Being happy a firefighter is dead and calling him a nazi because he was a trump supporter…. It’s just gross and tells me a lot about you as a person
I always wonder how many of these people who just look for a reason to hate on republicans/democrats have ever actually been to America and experienced what it’s truly like, not just what the media feeds you
I remember being so nervous to move to the south of America because of all the **** I heard. It turned out to be the friendliest place I had ever lived. They had a pride parade yearly and where I lived in the UK didn’t even celebrate it yet. I met amazing people of all races, backgrounds, political alignments etc and honestly, the only really crazy stuff I hear is from people on the internetSo in your first paragraph you talk about not seeing people as human. And in your second paragraph you call Trump supporters "crazy MAGA people"
And in your third paragraph you say "I hate all the name calling"
Make your mind up.
Ninastar
16-07-2024, 12:21 PM
Eh, I know people on here don’t see the “crazy maga supporters” as humans so that’s why I used the term. I’m trying to explain that crazy maga supporters are just people with opinions
:shrug:
Eh, I know people on here don’t see the “crazy maga supporters” as humans so that’s why I used the term. I’m trying to explain that crazy maga supporters are just people with opinions
:shrug:Fair enough.
Ninastar
16-07-2024, 12:22 PM
My mind will never be made up, it will alway and forever continue to argue both sides of any case ever
It’s a blessing and a curse x
That’s absolutely what it comes down to. Not seeing people as human, but seeing them as a political belief. It’s awful. And the sad thing is it’s on both sides. I can honestly say that I have always fought for people to look beyond political opinions and just see people for who they are.
I have friends and family all over the political spectrum. Not one of them has ever hated on me for my sexuality or personal beliefs and I even know some crazy maga ppl.
I just hate all the name calling, the baiting and the pettiness this brings from all sides of politics.
Being happy a firefighter is dead and calling him a nazi because he was a trump supporter…. It’s just gross and tells me a lot about you as a person
I always wonder how many of these people who just look for a reason to hate on republicans/democrats have ever actually been to America and experienced what it’s truly like, not just what the media feeds you
I remember being so nervous to move to the south of America because of all the **** I heard. It turned out to be the friendliest place I had ever lived. They had a pride parade yearly and where I lived in the UK didn’t even celebrate it yet. I met amazing people of all races, backgrounds, political alignments etc and honestly, the only really crazy stuff I hear is from people on the internet
….yeah, I believe that as well and that neither can see it or choose not to, is more the thing…
Livia
16-07-2024, 12:22 PM
Eh, I know people on here don’t see the “crazy maga supporters” as humans so that’s why I used the term. I’m trying to explain that crazy maga supporters are just people with opinions
:shrug:
Well said.
Ninastar
16-07-2024, 12:25 PM
I just feel like the media is determined to try and keep us all separated by our beliefs. It’s much easier to control people that way
user104658
16-07-2024, 12:25 PM
Eh, I know people on here don’t see the “crazy maga supporters” as humans so that’s why I used the term. I’m trying to explain that crazy maga supporters are just people with opinions
:shrug:
I see them as humans, personally. Just dumb ones, with dumb opinions.
And before you all start, yes it's OK to say that some opinions are dumb, let's not start validating Flat Earthers and Joe Rogan fans.
Ninastar
16-07-2024, 12:27 PM
….yeah, I believe that as well and that neither can see it or choose not to, is more the thing…
Right, they care more about trying to prove the other person ‘wrong’ rather than trying to educate and inform people of why they believe what they believe
Niamh.
16-07-2024, 12:28 PM
I see them as humans, personally. Just dumb ones, with dumb opinions.
And before you all start, yes it's OK to say that some opinions are dumb, let's not start validating Flat Earthers and Joe Rogan fans.
Joe Rogan is a legend excuse your cheek :nono:
Liam-
16-07-2024, 12:28 PM
I see them as humans, personally. Just dumb ones, with dumb opinions.
And before you all start, yes it's OK to say that some opinions are dumb, let's not start validating Flat Earthers and Joe Rogan fans.
Yep, humans that have been radicalised by a conman
Ninastar
16-07-2024, 12:30 PM
I see them as humans, personally. Just dumb ones, with dumb opinions.
And before you all start, yes it's OK to say that some opinions are dumb, let's not start validating Flat Earthers and Joe Rogan fans.
And that is totally fair to you. I think it’s daft to say that all people who are X supporters are XYZ!!!
You get smarties and fruit loops on all sides, nothing will ever change there
Maga is now a cult, i don't think the dems are anything close to a cult. That's the basic difference for me. Do i like the dems? No, i certainly don't, but we are not comparing like with like
Yep, humans that have been radicalised by a conmanBut not radicalised by the mainstream media right. Because they're honest and truthful as it comes, right?
Right, they care more about trying to prove the other person ‘wrong’ rather than trying to educate and inform people of why they believe what they believe
…yeah absolutely, everything is a tribal ‘vs’ thing, isn’t it ….pick a team …and it very much is encouraged by governments and media’s and all of those in power who want to keep the general public distracted…divide and conquer, I think is the expression…
Crimson Dynamo
16-07-2024, 12:32 PM
joe rogan fans.
Like you have ever watched joe rogan
:joker:
The media told you that Hunter Biden's laptop was fake Russian disinformation. It turned out it was true and they knew it. So it was them with the disinformation.
The media told you about Trump and Russia. Russia, Russia for 3 years. And that turned out to be all dishonest, made-up rub. It was them with the disinformation.
But you'll keep going back to them and listening to them. Because that's what you do.
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