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Niamh.
16-07-2024, 12:35 PM
And that is totally fair to you. I think it’s daft to say that all people who are X supporters are XYZ!!!
You get smarties and fruit loops on all sides, nothing will ever change there
…yeah absolutely, everything is a tribal ‘vs’ thing, isn’t it ….pick a team …and it very much is encouraged by governments and media’s and all of those in power who want to keep the general public distracted…divide and conquer, I think is the expression…
Glad some people are still speaking sense though :love:
Ninastar
16-07-2024, 12:36 PM
Maga is now a cult, i don't think the dems are anything close to a cult. That's the basic difference for me. Do i like the dems? No, i certainly don't, but we are not comparing like with like
I can see why people would think maga ppl are in a cult
But I also think that the extreme left who call every person who doesn’t believe on letting kids transition before 18, ‘transphobes’ or ‘nazis’ are kind of like a cult too
If you don’t agree with them exactly how they say it, you’re a hater and small minded and hate all lgbt people and people of colour. Oh and disabled people too
What ammi said is also seen as a conspiracy theory.
Liam-
16-07-2024, 12:37 PM
Maga is now a cult, i don't think the dems are anything close to a cult. That's the basic difference for me. Do i like the dems? No, i certainly don't, but we are not comparing like with like
Absolutely, they’re completely different things and the constant need to force a false equivalence is weird and only helps minimize the actual insanity that is being produced by the maga crowd
So who thinks this young guy worked alone and was the only shooter?
If that had been Biden he would be dead now cause he wouldnt have turned his head like trump did.
I still want to know why one of the security thought it ok to pick up trumps hat as they rushed him off the stage.
Crimson Dynamo
16-07-2024, 12:47 PM
So who thinks this young guy worked alone and was the only shooter?
FBI says Crooks "acted alone"
- FBI says Crooks had very "limited" social media use.
- FBI claims Crooks was *not* known to the agency.
- Crooks was a progressive donor.
- Crooks was reportedly a registered Republican.
- Crooks father is a registered Libertarian.
- Crooks mother is a registered Democrat.
- The AR-15 used was purchased by his father 6 months ago.
- Crooks was a member at a nearby rifle club.
- Law enforcement officials say there was a good amount of planning that took place.
- Crooks was somehow able to climb on the roof WITH A RIFLE ON HIS BACK while not being detected by police or Secret Service.
- Crooks was not carrying an ID.
- Explosive materials were found in his vehicle and home.
- He has recently bought 50 rounds of live ammo locally
- Crooks graduated from Community College of Allegheny County with an associate degree in engineering science.
- Crooks worked as a dietary aid at a nursing center who said his "background check was clean."
- Classmates said he was a "loner" in high school.
- High school teacher said he was one of the few conservatives in class.
It's pretty remarkable that someone who would try to assassinate a president
had no apparent digital footprint.
Ninastar
16-07-2024, 12:51 PM
If that had been Biden he would be dead now cause he wouldnt have turned his head like trump did.
I still want to know why one of the security thought it ok to pick up trumps hat as they rushed him off the stage.
As far as I’m aware, they were told the shooter was dead and that’s when they got up. He asked for his shoes and his hat and I don’t think that is super unreasonable. He was probably in shock and was thinking very basic thoughts
Ninastar
16-07-2024, 12:52 PM
I’d say that he could have been paid off by someone to do it, but why agree to get paid knowing you’ll die immediately after?
As far as I’m aware, they were told the shooter was dead and that’s when they got up. He asked for his shoes and his hat and I don’t think that is super unreasonable. He was probably in shock and was thinking very basic thoughts
Oh, did he ask for his hat as well as the shoes? I hadnt realised that. I will watch it again. It's like the wall by pink floyd, everytime you watch it you see something different.
I’d say that he could have been paid off by someone to do it, but why agree to get paid knowing you’ll die immediately after?
i think the shooter was just in a very dark place mentally and wanted to be remembered for something
FBI says Crooks "acted alone"
- FBI says Crooks had very "limited" social media use.
- FBI claims Crooks was *not* known to the agency.
- Crooks was a progressive donor.
- Crooks was reportedly a registered Republican.
- Crooks father is a registered Libertarian.
- Crooks mother is a registered Democrat.
- The AR-15 used was purchased by his father 6 months ago.
- Crooks was a member at a nearby rifle club.
- Law enforcement officials say there was a good amount of planning that took place.
- Crooks was somehow able to climb on the roof WITH A RIFLE ON HIS BACK while not being detected by police or Secret Service.
- Crooks was not carrying an ID.
- Explosive materials were found in his vehicle and home.
- He has recently bought 50 rounds of live ammo locally
- Crooks graduated from Community College of Allegheny County with an associate degree in engineering science.
- Crooks worked as a dietary aid at a nursing center who said his "background check was clean."
- Classmates said he was a "loner" in high school.
- High school teacher said he was one of the few conservatives in class.
It's pretty remarkable that someone who would try to assassinate a president
had no apparent digital footprint.Yeah, he's definitely Republican.
Here he is wanting to slash Republicans throats. Not my words his, from the horses mouth.
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Ninastar
16-07-2024, 12:56 PM
I heard a comment about the shoes. I wasn’t sure if the secret service lady (idk her name sorry) just grabbed the hat of her own accord or he asked for it
Personally, i think it was set up by Kennedy and he was trying to infect Trump with brain worms
Niamh.
16-07-2024, 12:57 PM
As far as I’m aware, they were told the shooter was dead and that’s when they got up. He asked for his shoes and his hat and I don’t think that is super unreasonable. He was probably in shock and was thinking very basic thoughts
That's so true, I was in a car accident a few years ago, I remember thinking as the car was mid crash, "ffs I have way too much to do today, I don't have time for this ****" :laugh:
Like you have ever watched joe rogan
:joker:
His YouTube channel is fantastic
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Ninastar
16-07-2024, 01:00 PM
That's so true, I was in a car accident a few years ago, I remember thinking as the car was mid crash, "ffs I have way too much to do today, I don't have time for this ****" :laugh:
Wow lmao
In my accident my first thought was ‘can I move my legs?!?’ And then I realised I could so then I panicked about where the **** I was supposed to go. I drove like 800ft away and pulled into a business parking lot. Then I walked up to see the other drivers and they were like ‘why did you leave’
I was panicking okay!???
user104658
16-07-2024, 01:00 PM
That's so true, I was in a car accident a few years ago, I remember thinking as the car was mid crash, "ffs I have way too much to do today, I don't have time for this ****" :laugh:
I've only been in one crash, as a teenager. A friend was driving, and we were both 100% convinced the car "was going to explode" (it was a write-off but only because the suspension completely collapsed - there was no risk at all of a fire or explosion) :joker:.
Too much Hollywood...
Crimson Dynamo
16-07-2024, 01:06 PM
Interestingly his security detail last night had NO women in it
Niamh.
16-07-2024, 01:06 PM
Wow lmao
In my accident my first thought was ‘can I move my legs?!?’ And then I realised I could so then I panicked about where the **** I was supposed to go. I drove like 800ft away and pulled into a business parking lot. Then I walked up to see the other drivers and they were like ‘why did you leave’
I was panicking okay!???
:laugh: So much for your life flashing before your eyes eh?
I've only been in one crash, as a teenager. A friend was driving, and we were both 100% convinced the car "was going to explode" (it was a write-off but only because the suspension completely collapsed - there was no risk at all of a fire or explosion) :joker:.
Too much Hollywood...
awww :laugh:
Ninastar
16-07-2024, 01:06 PM
Interestingly his security detail last night had NO women in it
Sexist prick
Ninastar
16-07-2024, 01:07 PM
Omg no I thought I said sexiest prick then :omgno:
Trumps exact words before the shots ring out.
"If you really want to see something that's sad, take look at"
Imagine if that went down in the annals of history.
Crimson Dynamo
16-07-2024, 01:16 PM
Sexist prick
Its reality
If i was 6 foot 3 Trump I don't want a 5 foot 3 woman trying to save me from an assassin
or one that cannot operate a holster under pressure
So who thinks this young guy worked alone and was the only shooter?
There is a single round that goes off, 10 seconds after the bursts of fire.:shrug:
Sexist prick
LT just echoes fox news, and that's what they were saying on there. She was actually in charge of the SS team
Crimson Dynamo
16-07-2024, 01:22 PM
Elon Musk donates $100,000 to families of the victims of the Trump shooting.
The GoFundMe has surpassed over $4.7 million in donations so far.
Other large donors include:
Kid Rock $50,000
Vivek Ramaswamy $30,000
UFC CEO Dana White $50,000
Casino Mogul Steve Wynn $50,000
Senator Rick Scott $50,000
Citadel CEO Kenneth C. Griffin $50,000
Crimson Dynamo
16-07-2024, 01:23 PM
LT just echoes fox news, and that's what they were saying on there. She was actually in charge of the SS team
I don't watch fox news
I am surprised that you do however
user104658
16-07-2024, 01:23 PM
Omg no I thought I said sexiest prick then :omgno:
The Truth is no longer here unfortunately.
Ninastar
16-07-2024, 01:25 PM
I wonder if it’s orange :omgno:
Brb while I go take a forever nap
arista
16-07-2024, 01:27 PM
Elon Musk donates $100,000 to families of the victims of the Trump shooting.
The GoFundMe has surpassed over $4.7 million in donations so far.
Other large donors include:
Kid Rock $50,000
Vivek Ramaswamy $30,000
UFC CEO Dana White $50,000
Casino Mogul Steve Wynn $50,000
Senator Rick Scott $50,000
Citadel CEO Kenneth C. Griffin $50,000
That is Good
user104658
16-07-2024, 01:27 PM
I wonder if it’s orange :omgno:
Brb while I go take a forever nap
I'm not sure if you mean Trump or LT.
If it's Trump then nah, we've sadly seen him topless and the man is chalk white from the neck down.
If you mean LT then I imagine yes, probably, as every bit of him is orange other than the blue top.
Nicky91
16-07-2024, 01:31 PM
I'm not sure if you mean Trump or LT.
If it's Trump then nah, we've sadly seen him topless and the man is chalk white from the neck down.
If you mean LT then I imagine yes, probably, as every bit of him is orange other than the blue top.
so you've seen The Donald topless :eek:
The hat handover.. this is mid rush from the stage, the lady has just picked it up as it fell from trumps hand, why did the male security feel the need to take the hat from the female who up. His attention should not have been on that.
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the lady is his boss, he was following her instructions
Crimson Dynamo
16-07-2024, 05:20 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSeSTCWW0AA8wcm?format=jpg&name=small
These biological facts should be obvious. Every nightclub owner knows that
physicality matters. A bouncer who is six-foot-five, 200 pounds, will provide
better security than a smaller woman. Part of it is signal—size and strength
act as a deterrent—and part of it is substance. When a fight breaks out, the
nightclub owner learns quickly who is capable of maintaining order and who
is not. If he makes the wrong hiring decision, he loses money. It is, in its own
way, an honest business.
Why has the Secret Service lost sight of such a basic principle? Because large
bureaucracies are insulated from consequences. Directors of large
corporations and especially government agencies can afford to engage in
vanity projects and pay the DEI tax.
Someone like Kimberly Cheatle, who did a stint at PepsiCo before accepting
the directorship of the Secret Service, understands how to pursue success in
the current environment: tell the story of “diversity” to advance in a career,
degrade the quality of personnel by hiring ideologically, and hope that the
remaining capable men who still represent the core of the service can make
up the difference.
To be clear: I am not arguing that DEI caused the lapse in security at the
rally in Butler. It is too early to know this one way or another. But the near-
miss assassination reminds us of the stakes: split-second reactions, physical
courage, and calm under pressure are all essential to the work of protecting
the president. If any of those slip, even by an inch, the result is death. What
we saw on Saturday was luck, not competence.
https://christopherrufo.com/p/a-compromised-secret-service
Cherie
16-07-2024, 05:24 PM
If that had been Biden he would be dead now cause he wouldnt have turned his head like trump did.
I still want to know why one of the security thought it ok to pick up trumps hat as they rushed him off the stage.
You can clearly hear him asking for his shoes, I guess the hat was close by
Crimson Dynamo
16-07-2024, 05:26 PM
You can clearly hear him asking for his shoes, I guess the hat was close by
That hat will be one day in a museum
Cherie
16-07-2024, 05:27 PM
That hat will be one day in a museum
Could be his lucky hat which is why they couldn't leave it behind :laugh:
You can clearly hear him asking for his shoes, I guess the hat was close by
This was after he put his shoes back on. When they were ushering him down the stairs. Trump dropped his hat, lady picked it up, and handed it to the man you see her doing that in the picture.
My question still stands...why? Why would a hat be so important that it became 2 peoples priority for a few brief seconds..They didnt put it back on his head st any point.
Cherie
16-07-2024, 05:47 PM
This was after he put his shoes back on. When they were ushering him down the stairs. Trump dropped his hat, lady picked it up, and handed it to the man you see her doing that in the picture.
My question still stands...why? Why would a hat be so important that it became 2 peoples priority for a few brief seconds..They didnt put it back on his head st any point.
As above, its probably his lucky hat...
As above, its probably his lucky hat...
He doesnt wear that one on the golf course. I feel this is being swept under the carpet from guilt or simply dismissed by everyone.
Perhaps watch the videos of it again especially the one taken from the bottom of the stairs when they all come down them. Just freeze frame and go frame by frame keeping your eye on the red hat in trumps hand when you see it. Yiu can also zoom in and out on youtube on your mobile.
Cherie
16-07-2024, 06:20 PM
He doesnt wear that one on the golf course. I feel this is being swept under the carpet from guilt or simply dismissed by everyone.
Perhaps watch the videos of it again especially the one taken from the bottom of the stairs when they all come down them. Just freeze frame and go frame by frame keeping your eye on the red hat in trumps hand when you see it. Yiu can also zoom in and out on youtube on your mobile.
sorry I am not sure what the significance of it is :shrug:
Jordan.
16-07-2024, 06:38 PM
Yeah, he's definitely Republican.
Here he is wanting to slash Republicans throats. Not my words his, from the horses mouth.
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Not him, old video of someone else from 2020
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I guess the video quality was deliberately lowered to spread fake news.
Crimson Dynamo
16-07-2024, 07:01 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSoTWp9XgAAxj7A?format=png&name=small
Crimson Dynamo
16-07-2024, 07:05 PM
Iranian regime plot to assassinate Trump, uncovered by U.S. intelligence.
U.S. intelligence agencies received intel from a human source within the last
few weeks of an Iranian plot to assassinate former President Trump.
There is no indication that Thomas Crooks, was connected to the separate
assassination plot, as the FBI announced the shooter ‘appeared to have acted
alone.’
Source: CNN
This makes the Secret Service F.uck up even worse
how can that incompetent DEI hire woman still be in a job???
Not him, old video of someone else from 2020
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I guess the video quality was deliberately lowered to spread fake news.Yeah, still looks like him to me.
Who is it then if it's not him?
I didn't care all that much about the women and their size when I first saw it. Still don't care. Only care about their dedication. However, hub was saying that the Secret Service of late has been more worried about diversity hires than anything else and that it's been what they are known for now. That almost always leads to worse results, if that is true. Trump should've had an S-tier team simply for the fact, there is higher risk during these kinds of rallies and that he was a currently running (and likely) candidate for POTUS.
Singling out the women isn't fair, though. They all suck lol. It's looking rather negligent, perhaps intentional, that they didn't shift into gear right when it became clear a potential threat had been established. Thankfully the kid was a bad shot. Imagine if he had succeeded, we would be having a horrible time as a country trying to recover from it politically.
My hope is that it humbles everyone involved and that we see a dampening of the negative energy we've seen over the past decade. I've had enough of geriatric politics, the fear mongering, etc. Even X reads like a nursing home with people arguing over colored pills.
Jordan.
16-07-2024, 07:26 PM
Yeah, still looks like him to me.
Who is it then if it's not him?
A student at Arizona state university 4 years ago
https://www.sweeneypiano.com/images/usmapaz.jpg
Crimson Dynamo
16-07-2024, 07:59 PM
Just read the shooter was big into video games...
Ninastar
16-07-2024, 08:09 PM
You’d figure he’d have better aim then
Hohoho I’ll see myself out
(I’m genuinely joking, I do not wish death on anyone)
Niamh.
16-07-2024, 08:21 PM
You’d figure he’d have better aim then
Hohoho I’ll see myself out
(I’m genuinely joking, I do not wish death on anyone):laugh2:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSoTWp9XgAAxj7A?format=png&name=smallAnd apparently she's resigned.
Libsoftiktok is going after all the teachers celebrating assassination. She doesn't want these teachers teaching children.
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GoldHeart
16-07-2024, 08:44 PM
And apparently she's resigned.
Libsoftiktok is going after all the teachers celebrating assassination. She doesn't want these teachers teaching children.
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Exactly my point
Which is why I'll never be on either side.
Imagine someone as thick as this person thinking it's funny to say the " shooter missed" ,when we all know they'd be outraged if a republican reacted the same way ....to an attempt on Biden's life.
The innocent guy who got killed , his death doesn't seem to matter to people like that.
Exactly my point
Which is why I'll never be on either side.
Imagine someone as thick as this person thinking it's funny to say the " shooter missed" ,when we all know they'd be outraged if a republican reacted the same way ....to an attempt on Biden's life.
The innocent guy who got killed , his death doesn't seem to matter to people like that.I think the point of this one is. Libsoftiktok is just exposing the people who teach our children who have these radical views.
There's probably millions of people that wish Trump was killed in this attack. But this is just exposing the ones teaching our children.
Ninastar
16-07-2024, 08:58 PM
People should be allowed to make jokes and have their opinions, I think it’s sad Jack Black had to cancel his tour, and that teacher resigned. I mean there’s a time and place of course but America is all about its freedoms and surely freedom of speech is covered by that too?
GoldHeart
16-07-2024, 08:59 PM
I think the point of this one is. Libsoftiktok is just exposing the people who teach our children who have these radical views.
There's probably millions of people that wish Trump was killed in this attack. But this is just exposing the ones teaching our children.
I always wonder how some teachers get employed to begin with, some of them seem insane.
GoldHeart
16-07-2024, 09:05 PM
People should be allowed to make jokes and have their opinions, I think it’s sad Jack Black had to cancel his tour, and that teacher resigned. I mean there’s a time and place of course but America is all about its freedoms and surely freedom of speech is covered by that too?
Not really a funny joke when someone actually died , plus the hypocrisy in all of this ...is the same people joking would be angry and kicking up a fuss if Biden was the one shot at , while a innocent democrat civilian is killed .
People should be allowed to make jokes and have their opinions, I think it’s sad Jack Black had to cancel his tour, and that teacher resigned. I mean there’s a time and place of course but America is all about its freedoms and surely freedom of speech is covered by that too?I know it wasn't Jack himself, it was Kyle. But if you gonna make a joke, then make a joke. What he said wasn't a joke. And if it was, then it was a very, very sh!t joke for a comedian packing out arena's. I made a better joke on here. Saying "It's lucky that somebody shouted Donald Duck"
The other point, I probably lean on the side of these teachers that are teaching the next generations, should be a bit more professional and composed. It's their own fault in my opinion.
This close to the bad guys winning
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user104658
16-07-2024, 09:57 PM
"the bad guys" :facepalm: I thought you were 50 Alf, not 5?
Crimson Dynamo
16-07-2024, 10:07 PM
"the bad guys" :facepalm: I thought you were 50 Alf, not 5?
More personal comments and insults...
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King Charles has cancelled his trip to the USA, over fears he may be an easy target.
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user104658
16-07-2024, 10:23 PM
More personal comments and insults...
They sure are champ :thumbs:
arista
17-07-2024, 04:43 AM
In Australia
on stage
Band [Tenacious D fans have been left completely
baffled by the shock falling about between
longtime friends and bandmates
Jack Black and Kyle Gass.
The comedy duo had been travelling around
Australia on their Spicy Meatball tour
but shockingly cancelled their final six shows
after Gass made a divisive
Donald Trump shooting joke.
Gass caused controversy at
Sydney's ICC Theatre on Sunday when
Black brought a birthday cake out for him
and asked him to make a wish, prompting
the singer to reply: 'Don't miss Trump next time.']
Video Clip
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13641767/Tenacious-D-fans-baffled-falling-Aussie-tour-implodes-Jack-Black-condemned-Kyle-Gass-divisive-Trump-shooting-joke.html
Mystic Mock
17-07-2024, 05:24 AM
That’s absolutely what it comes down to. Not seeing people as human, but seeing them as a political belief. It’s awful. And the sad thing is it’s on both sides. I can honestly say that I have always fought for people to look beyond political opinions and just see people for who they are.
I have friends and family all over the political spectrum. Not one of them has ever hated on me for my sexuality or personal beliefs and I even know some crazy maga ppl.
I just hate all the name calling, the baiting and the pettiness this brings from all sides of politics.
Being happy a firefighter is dead and calling him a nazi because he was a trump supporter…. It’s just gross and tells me a lot about you as a person
I always wonder how many of these people who just look for a reason to hate on republicans/democrats have ever actually been to America and experienced what it’s truly like, not just what the media feeds you
I remember being so nervous to move to the south of America because of all the **** I heard. It turned out to be the friendliest place I had ever lived. They had a pride parade yearly and where I lived in the UK didn’t even celebrate it yet. I met amazing people of all races, backgrounds, political alignments etc and honestly, the only really crazy stuff I hear is from people on the internet
A great post Ninastar imo.
And you make a great point about sometimes your experience with a place doesn't always match with the stories that you hear about.
Like for example in Birmingham we have an area called Erdington, that let's just say is known for it's stabbings (similar to Nechells,) but every time I went to Erdington I had a great time, admittedly I haven't been there for a long time, so maybe it's different now.
Mystic Mock
17-07-2024, 05:27 AM
….yeah, I believe that as well and that neither can see it or choose not to, is more the thing…
Exactly the problem.
Mystic Mock
17-07-2024, 05:30 AM
I see them as humans, personally. Just dumb ones, with dumb opinions.
And before you all start, yes it's OK to say that some opinions are dumb, let's not start validating Flat Earthers and Joe Rogan fans.
But Flat Earthers have given us a Flat Earth Rap Battle, how can that be considered anything other than genius?
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Just read the shooter was big into video games...
That explains a lot.
"the bad guys" :facepalm: I thought you were 50 Alf, not 5?
Says SB, who all week has been making childish comments about trump supporters.
Makes him look like an idiot imo.
Mystic Mock
17-07-2024, 05:39 AM
Omg no I thought I said sexiest prick then :omgno:
:laugh:
Mystic Mock
17-07-2024, 05:42 AM
so you've seen The Donald topless :eek:
His body is at the same level as mine and Wayne Rooney's.:laugh:
Mystic Mock
17-07-2024, 05:47 AM
Just read the shooter was big into video games...
Video Games aren't the problem.
Video Games aren't the problem.
They certainly dont help, and the age restrictions on the games cant really be followed. They are there for a reason parents.
Mystic Mock
17-07-2024, 05:56 AM
They certainly dont help, and the age restrictions on the games cant really be followed. They are there for a reason parents.
This guy clearly got radicalized by either a friend with dangerous views, or a family member with dangerous views.
A Video Game at best can give out the method of how someone will commit their crime, but this dude was going for Trump regardless of if he were playing Video Games or not.
Not him, old video of someone else from 2020
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I guess the video quality was deliberately lowered to spread fake news.
…I also don’t believe that the student in the video is Thomas Matthew Crooks…I mean, apparently this is a vid that has gone viral on social media which is showing a definite political view…?…and yet all of the investigative services are maintaining the ‘lack of footprint’ of any political persuasion of Thomas…?…they’re turning over every stone, looking at every possible path but they didn’t check a viral video on social media…?…of course, that doesn’t make any sense at all….
…Thomas Matthew Crooks really does seem to be a ‘silent killer’ character who no one could have predicted….his phone has been searched and there is no suggestion of any political alignment or any ideology that would indicate any violence or ‘red flag’ in his personality…in fact he’s been described as never been known to express any political thoughts…he’s also been described as respectful …somewhat of a maths genius…very bight but quiet…there doesn’t appear to be any behaviour or comments or any indication at the gun club he attended to indicate an ‘obsessive’….no one felt that he stood out in any way and was maybe a bit ‘invisible’….but now, today…all we have to do is to type into the keyboard ‘Thomas’ and Thomas Matthew Crooks is what immediately comes up every time as the top search…he definitely isn’t the quiet kid in the back now and maybe that was his motivation at trying to assassinate one of the most famous people in the world….
arista
17-07-2024, 07:36 AM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/17/08/87434315-0-image-m-7_1721200869119.jpg
[The cell phone which may reveal
why Thomas Crooks tried to kill
Donald Trump has been seen for
the first time alongside a
transmitter - leading to more unanswered
questions into the assassination attempt.
The photo was taken by law enforcement
agents seconds after the 20-year-old was
shot dead by Secret Service agents
following his assassination attempt
on the former president at his
Pennsylvania campaign rally on Saturday.
The existence of the transmitter raised
fresh questions about whether
the shooter was communicating
with someone else on the grounds
and whether further chaos was
planned for that day.]
arista
17-07-2024, 07:42 AM
Full Photo of the Dead Terrorist
on the roof.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/14/03/87304819-13632103-image-a-23_1720923661650.jpg
All these conspiracies are doing is feeding the possibility of further political violence. Further individuals with mental health issues are just going to propagate things.
America is heading straight toward violent conflict, It's close to being inevitable
user104658
17-07-2024, 08:27 AM
This guy clearly got radicalized by either a friend with dangerous views, or a family member with dangerous views.
A Video Game at best can give out the method of how someone will commit their crime, but this dude was going for Trump regardless of if he were playing Video Games or not.
They're just baiting Mock, subtle as a hammer to the knee I wouldn't pay it any attention :joker:
Grown ass adults who play video games will defend video games to the hilt. They wont see how hours and hours of violent gameplay can effect young minds in a negative and dangerous manner.
They will then call other adults immature, before returning to play zelda or some other game designed for children.
grown ass adults who sit and watch movies wont see how hours and hours of movie watching can affect young minds
Feel free to replace with any activity
Oliver_W
17-07-2024, 08:48 AM
That's so true, I was in a car accident a few years ago, I remember thinking as the car was mid crash, "ffs I have way too much to do today, I don't have time for this ****" :laugh:
A couple of years back I was being taken by parademics, and I rang my mum to say "sorry I won't be able to meet you out of work, the paramedics are taking me to hospital" and wondered why she kept ringing and texting :laugh:
Oliver_W
17-07-2024, 08:51 AM
Grown ass adults who play video games will defend video games to the hilt. They wont see how hours and hours of violent gameplay can effect young minds in a negative and dangerous manner.
They will then call other adults immature, before returning to play zelda or some other game designed for children.
Okay then Mary Whitehouse.
Okay then Mary Whitehouse.
Save it for your headphones and mic..I'm not interested enough to listen to you being defensively insulting.
Jordan.
17-07-2024, 09:41 AM
Grown ass adults who play video games will defend video games to the hilt. They wont see how hours and hours of violent gameplay can effect young minds in a negative and dangerous manner.
They will then call other adults immature, before returning to play zelda or some other game designed for children.
Still less negative and dangerous than getting sozzled every night
Still less negative and dangerous than getting sozzled every night
You got facts to back that up?
And are you talking about children or adults..or is it a childish reference to what you believe I do?
Niamh.
17-07-2024, 10:58 AM
A couple of years back I was being taken by parademics, and I rang my mum to say "sorry I won't be able to meet you out of work, the paramedics are taking me to hospital" and wondered why she kept ringing and texting :laugh:
:laugh: Weird how the mind and body reacts in a state of shock
Crimson Dynamo
17-07-2024, 11:33 AM
FBI officers were up on the roof yesterday hosing down the crime scene....
This thread is a pretty good case study of how prolific disinformation is on social media. I think about half of the tweets posted have been absolute nonsense
arista
17-07-2024, 11:38 AM
This thread is a pretty good case study of how prolific disinformation is on social media. I think about half of the tweets posted have been absolute nonsense
Yes "some" tweets are crazy
from USA.
Crimson Dynamo
17-07-2024, 11:39 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSr4KRhW0AE4e2K?format=jpg&name=small
arista
17-07-2024, 12:01 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSr4KRhW0AE4e2K?format=jpg&name=small
Yes
Evil.
GoldHeart
17-07-2024, 01:10 PM
All these conspiracies are doing is feeding the possibility of further political violence. Further individuals with mental health issues are just going to propagate things.
America is heading straight toward violent conflict, It's close to being inevitable
This is my worry aswell , plenty of gun nuts around unfortunately.
GoldHeart
17-07-2024, 01:15 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSr4KRhW0AE4e2K?format=jpg&name=small
Gross :bored:
This person is in need of a CAT scan , imagine thinking it's ok an innocent dad lost his life shielding his own daughter.
i don't know if that tweet is real or fake, it just seems quite ridiculous
GoldHeart
17-07-2024, 01:24 PM
i don't know if that tweet is real or fake, it just seems quite ridiculous
I've seen a few videos online of hysterical people saying the shooting is " fake", and other videos of equally hysterical crazies screaming how the shooter" missed" .....as they wished Trump dead ,so it wouldn't surprise me if that tweet is real . This whole thing is bringing out the mentally unstable.
Niamh.
17-07-2024, 01:25 PM
i don't know if that tweet is real or fake, it just seems quite ridiculous
Especially with the background pictures of her profile pictures too :laugh:
arista
17-07-2024, 01:47 PM
There is a Fantastic Japan New Cartoon
Trump getting Shot in his Ear.
Gone Viral in China
24 seconds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96S137Ct-N0
AnnieK
17-07-2024, 02:29 PM
i don't know if that tweet is real or fake, it just seems quite ridiculous
Agree.....I don't think its real for one minute
user104658
17-07-2024, 02:56 PM
Grown ass adults who play video games will defend video games to the hilt. They wont see how hours and hours of violent gameplay can effect young minds in a negative and dangerous manner.
They will then call other adults immature, before returning to play zelda or some other game designed for children.
The silliest and most immature game I play is called "TiBB" Parmy, so I wouldn't be in that glass house throwing so many stones. You're here arguing the toss on a forum about a daft reality TV show, you big, mature, grown up manly man you :joker:.
Crimson Dynamo
17-07-2024, 03:05 PM
Oh it's very real
It's not a tweet it's Facebook
Stupid woman
https://www.shorenewsnetwork.com/2024/07/16/owner-of-yoga-studio-celebrates-death-of-firefighter-killed-in-failed-trump-assassination-attempt/
Ninastar
17-07-2024, 03:27 PM
Honestly I’ve seen plenty of people say they are sad the shooter missed and that they are glad a ‘nazi’ died
The silliest and most immature game I play is called "TiBB" Parmy, so I wouldn't be in that glass house throwing so many stones. You're here arguing the toss on a forum about a daft reality TV show, you big, mature, grown up manly man you :joker:.
Dont project your insecurities upon me, I'm comfortable in myself being here.
AnnieK
17-07-2024, 03:37 PM
Wow, people are brutal
Niamh.
17-07-2024, 03:40 PM
Awful comment, especially about the man who died. Terrible to think this is where we are that people would celebrate the death of a man who's work was saving lives just because she disagreed with his politics.
Oliver_W
17-07-2024, 04:03 PM
Save it for your headphones and mic..I'm not interested enough to listen to you being defensively insulting.
Do you think people can be radicalised by online forums? Or by social media?
Crimson Dynamo
17-07-2024, 04:06 PM
Charlie Kirk on X just now..
Okay this is just getting ridiculous. It’s now come out that the Trump shooter,
Thomas Matthews Crook, was spotted by Secret Service THREE HOURS before
Trump’s rally, carrying a rangefinder used by hunters (or snipers) to take long-
range shots.
thesheriff443
17-07-2024, 04:07 PM
Come on you guys it’s only some one using their right of free speech
Niamh.
17-07-2024, 04:11 PM
Come on you guys it’s only some one using their right of free speech
And we're not allowed to comment on it? that's not how free speech works, nobody on here said she should have been fired or silenced just that it was a horrible thing to say :shrug:
thesheriff443
17-07-2024, 04:17 PM
And we're not allowed to comment on it? that's not how free speech works, nobody on here said she should have been fired or silenced just that it was a horrible thing to say :shrug:
you are all in the same boat wanting your freedom to say what you want without consequences.
I’m not stopping anyone from voicing their opinions just giving my own
Niamh.
17-07-2024, 04:20 PM
you are all in the same boat wanting your freedom to say what you want without consequences.
I’m not stopping anyone from voicing their opinions just giving my own
It wasn't really an opinion though, I don't understand what you were trying to say there, "Come on you guys"...... what?
Crimson Dynamo
17-07-2024, 04:38 PM
None has said there vile people can't say what they saying, just they are vile views
Kazanne
17-07-2024, 04:40 PM
Quite simply this is why I prefer animals to humans, how nasty are some people about that poor man that died.
Cherie
17-07-2024, 04:41 PM
Awful comment, especially about the man who died. Terrible to think this is where we are that people would celebrate the death of a man who's work was saving lives just because she disagreed with his politics.
Horrible, there is no respect for an alternative view nowadays, I am surprised she is still in employment after that tweet ...I am pretty sure if you celebrated someone being killed in this way in Ireland or the UK you would quite rightly be sacked but maybe she is sat on her ass and has plenty time to post bile
Crimson Dynamo
17-07-2024, 04:43 PM
Now we find out shooters parents called cops on day of shooting worried about their son.....
Horrible, there is no respect for an alternative view nowadays, I am surprised she is still in employment after that tweet ...I am pretty sure if you celebrated someone being killed in this way in Ireland or the UK you would quite rightly be sacked but maybe she is sat on her ass and has plenty time to post bile
i would imagine she needs to be very careful now because people will know where she lives. If that tweet isn't asking for trouble, i don't know what is
Cherie
17-07-2024, 04:45 PM
Now we find out shooters parents called cops on day of shooting worried about their son.....
and that the Dads gun was missing....
Do you think people can be radicalised by online forums? Or by social media?
Yes.
user104658
17-07-2024, 06:02 PM
Do you think people can be radicalised by online forums? Or by social media?
We've all lived through Alfgate, Oliver. Silly question.
Crimson Dynamo
17-07-2024, 08:54 PM
Online streamer Destiny has been BANNED from streaming app Kick after his shocking comments mocking the firefighter shot by the Trump shooter.
In a viral video the streamer used profanity when describing Corey Comperatore, the firefighter who was shot and killed by Trump shooter Thomas Crooks.
“****** it, ****** the dude, the firefighter guy. ****** Trump, ****** the people that
support him. I just want you to know, right? Just in case you are confused or
whatever, if one of you were in the crowd and you are a conservative fan of
mine and you get blown up or whatever the ******, I am making fun of you the
next day on Twitter. I am! 100%.”
The controversial streamers Kick profile has been completely banned, just
days after he was demonetized on X for the same comments.
The link to his Kick profile now displays the following message:
“404. Oops, something went wrong. We can't find the page you're looking for.”
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GStxElxWIAEWPVt?format=jpg&name=360x360
Crimson Dynamo
17-07-2024, 08:58 PM
Now, in a briefing to lawmakers, it’s been revealed that snipers spotted Trump
shooter Thomas Matthew Crooks TWENTY MINUTES before he took his shots.
this stinks
Crimson Dynamo
17-07-2024, 09:07 PM
NEW EXCLUSIVE video shows the shooter walking around by himself
looking up at rooftops near Trump
How was he not detained?!
Especially after getting caught with a range finder?!
video here: https://x.com/ElonChapo/status/1813678608118145131
Crimson Dynamo
17-07-2024, 09:30 PM
Oh and by the way the shooter was in a Blackrock commercial too
:skull:
Mystic Mock
17-07-2024, 10:22 PM
They're just baiting Mock, subtle as a hammer to the knee I wouldn't pay it any attention :joker:
I'm kind of getting the vibe too.:laugh:
I will definitely not comment further on that topic on this thread.
I'm kind of getting the vibe too.:laugh:
I will definitely not comment further on that topic on this thread.
Cheers Mystic Mock...much appreciated.
Perhaps you can be the 1st to enlist in SBs very own band of fannies instead of addressing any issues you have with what I think, with me.
Mystic Mock
17-07-2024, 10:30 PM
Awful comment, especially about the man who died. Terrible to think this is where we are that people would celebrate the death of a man who's work was saving lives just because she disagreed with his politics.
Some people are just that far gone unfortunately, Niamh.
We've got hordes of people that either need Therapy or sent to a Mental Ward.
Crimson Dynamo
17-07-2024, 10:30 PM
Some people are just that far gone unfortunately, Niamh.
We've got hordes of people that either need Therapy or sent to a Mental Ward.
amen Mock
Mystic Mock
17-07-2024, 10:36 PM
Online streamer Destiny has been BANNED from streaming app Kick after his shocking comments mocking the firefighter shot by the Trump shooter.
In a viral video the streamer used profanity when describing Corey Comperatore, the firefighter who was shot and killed by Trump shooter Thomas Crooks.
“****** it, ****** the dude, the firefighter guy. ****** Trump, ****** the people that
support him. I just want you to know, right? Just in case you are confused or
whatever, if one of you were in the crowd and you are a conservative fan of
mine and you get blown up or whatever the ******, I am making fun of you the
next day on Twitter. I am! 100%.”
The controversial streamers Kick profile has been completely banned, just
days after he was demonetized on X for the same comments.
The link to his Kick profile now displays the following message:
“404. Oops, something went wrong. We can't find the page you're looking for.”
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GStxElxWIAEWPVt?format=jpg&name=360x360
I swear that Kick Streamers are trying to beat TikTokers for being unlikable.
Mystic Mock
17-07-2024, 10:38 PM
Cheers Mystic Mock...much appreciated.
Perhaps you can be the 1st to enlist in SBs very own band of fannies instead of addressing any issues you have with what I think, with me.
I have no issues with you personally.
Online streamer Destiny has been BANNED from streaming app Kick after his shocking comments mocking the firefighter shot by the Trump shooter.
In a viral video the streamer used profanity when describing Corey Comperatore, the firefighter who was shot and killed by Trump shooter Thomas Crooks.
“****** it, ****** the dude, the firefighter guy. ****** Trump, ****** the people that
support him. I just want you to know, right? Just in case you are confused or
whatever, if one of you were in the crowd and you are a conservative fan of
mine and you get blown up or whatever the ******, I am making fun of you the
next day on Twitter. I am! 100%.”
The controversial streamers Kick profile has been completely banned, just
days after he was demonetized on X for the same comments.
The link to his Kick profile now displays the following message:
“404. Oops, something went wrong. We can't find the page you're looking for.”
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GStxElxWIAEWPVt?format=jpg&name=360x360
I saw his interview on Piers. He does not seem like a sane person and not someone I would ever listen to. Frankly, these types of "Youtubers" are just trying to grift views. The more controversial they are, the more relevant they become. He's not going anywhere.
Oliver_W
18-07-2024, 07:51 AM
I saw his interview on Piers. He does not seem like a sane person and not someone I would ever listen to. Frankly, these types of "Youtubers" are just trying to grift views. The more controversial they are, the more relevant they become. He's not going anywhere.
I saw him debate Lauren Southern once. I didn't find him too bad or anything, he made his arguments well enough (I think, it was years ago) but there seemed to be something "off". And this was before Trump had caused so many people's brains to melt.
( ^ on both sides tbh)
1813616739810529404Does Trump fit the criteria of who George was talking about here?
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He does, doesn't he? Admit it
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Trump uses his power to bring peace. Do you see it yet?
oba_OQ3exMo
These people are nuts. These are the ones that drummed it into your heads that "Orange man bad"
1813834442366243146
They just don't live in reality.
1813823718050918591
user104658
18-07-2024, 08:49 AM
They just don't live in reality.
1813823718050918591
Reporters are supposed to be impartial and not make ANY assumption, all Farage had to say was "He nearly died - I think anyone in that situation would be having a tough time."
But he chose to be pointed and combative (of course).
Crimson Dynamo
18-07-2024, 08:52 AM
These people are nuts. These are the ones that drummed it into your heads that "Orange man bad"
1813834442366243146
the stupidity of this comment is staggering
Crimson Dynamo
18-07-2024, 08:52 AM
They just don't live in reality.
1813823718050918591
Nigel totally owned her :dance:
user104658
18-07-2024, 08:59 AM
To be fair at 80 it wouldn't be uncommon to be killed by Covid (or any other respiratory infection). One of the most common causes of death in the elderly.
Though it does highlight the bizarre situation in the US... "It's impressive that our presidential candidates can survive fairly minor ailments, because y'know, they're all extremely, worryingly old and could die of natural causes basically whenever."
user104658
18-07-2024, 09:00 AM
Nigel totally owned her :dance:
Yeh! He'll be the talk of the playground! He'll get to be the first to pick teams for football at lunch :)
Oliver_W
18-07-2024, 06:28 PM
Reporters are supposed to be impartial and not make ANY assumption, all Farage had to say was "He nearly died - I think anyone in that situation would be having a tough time."
But he chose to be pointed and combative (of course).
To be fair she was being pretty antagonistic in the whole video.
Crimson Dynamo
18-07-2024, 06:47 PM
To be fair she was being pretty antagonistic in the whole video.
just another wet liberal trying to get a "gotcha" to feel good and virtue signal on social media
its actually pathetic why they would give up being proper journos for likes (like JOB)
arista
18-07-2024, 07:07 PM
1813968519215644900
user104658
18-07-2024, 07:20 PM
I swear that Kick Streamers are trying to beat TikTokers for being unlikable.
Tbf if there's one thing that I think everyone across most of the political divide can agree on... It's that Destiny is an insufferable tool. His "debates" are literally unwatchable, like watching squabbling toddlers.
1813968519215644900
The most sensible thing he has said to date.
Ninastar
18-07-2024, 08:52 PM
So is there an active investigation into the shooting? Genuine question.
Crimson Dynamo
18-07-2024, 08:55 PM
Tbf if there's one thing that I think everyone across most of the political divide can agree on... It's that Destiny is an insufferable tool. His "debates" are literally unwatchable, like watching squabbling toddlers.
He was on Piers Morgan and he was a genuine car crash
I swear Liam should unfollow him on X
user104658
18-07-2024, 08:56 PM
The most sensible thing he has said to date.
The most sensible thing he's said to date is that Trump was saved from assassination by ghosts and faeries?
So is there an active investigation into the shooting? Genuine question.Do the Deep state investigate themselves?
If there is one, do you think they'll find any criminality against themselves?
They still haven't solved the cases of JFK, 9/11, the illegal war in Iraq, Epstein Island, the Las Vegas shooting.
What's the chances?
The most sensible thing he's said to date is that Trump was saved from assassination by ghosts and faeries?
I will be whispering, "that's him" to the big man when you arrive.
user104658
18-07-2024, 09:15 PM
I will be whispering, "that's him" to the big man when you arrive.
:shrug: According to Christianity you can repent at the gates and still get in, so I'll just be like ":o sorry chief genuinely thought you were fake, I can see that I was sorely mistaken so I am very sorry pls can I come in."
And the baby jesus will let me through :hee:.
:shrug: According to Christianity you can repent at the gates and still get in, so I'll just be like ":o sorry chief genuinely thought you were fake, I can see that I was sorely mistaken so I am very sorry pls can I come in."
And the baby jesus will let me through :hee:.
You cant repent if you've been asked to repent and not done so..You can't patronize God, like you do everyone downstairs.:hee:
user104658
18-07-2024, 09:28 PM
You cant repent if you've been asked to repent and not done so..You can't patronize God, like you do everyone downstairs.:hee:
Asked to repent by whom? Surely not any old Tom Dick or Parmy.
Asked to repent by whom? Surely not any old Tom Dick or Parmy.
Do you say prayers? That is repenting. God always asks you repent your sins. That is what prayers are for, and if you are unlucky enough to be a catholic, the paedo box.
arista
18-07-2024, 09:45 PM
New Video
More of a side angle
Fella pulls away just he gets shot
https://x.com/hodgetwins/status/1813696688495948164
user104658
18-07-2024, 09:48 PM
Do you say prayers? That is repenting. God always asks you repent your sins. That is what prayers are for, and if you are unlucky enough to be a catholic, the paedo box.
Nah modern Christianity says if you're an unbeliever, you can repent as soon as you begin to believe - which can be at the pearly gates. If I'm at the pearly gates, then sure, I'll believe my eyes, and repent away. Baby Jesus died for my sins, after all.
Nah modern Christianity says if you're an unbeliever, you can repent as soon as you begin to believe - which can be at the pearly gates. If I'm at the pearly gates, then sure, I'll believe my eyes, and repent away. Baby Jesus died for my sins, after all.
Baby jesus was a grown man at that moment.
And god doesnt move with the times, so you be as modern as you like SB..I will still grass you up.
New Video
More of a side angle
Fella pulls away just he gets shot
https://x.com/hodgetwins/status/1813696688495948164
Some may say this video man had worse luck than the shooter.
On a side note, does anyone know where the dead fireman was seated in regards to the line of fire?
Mystic Mock
19-07-2024, 03:55 AM
Tbf if there's one thing that I think everyone across most of the political divide can agree on... It's that Destiny is an insufferable tool. His "debates" are literally unwatchable, like watching squabbling toddlers.
Is he just as bad as that Vaush guy? Because I remember Vaush defending liking Horses in a sexual way.
Mystic Mock
19-07-2024, 05:35 AM
1813739656279978036
This got tweeted out yesterday.
Wtf is wrong with these two? Especially Marjorie Taylor Greene claiming that she could "see angels."
And what disturbs me most is that there will be a portion of people watching that clip thinking that she's spot on.:facepalm:
half of americans are like this, that is why the situation is as it is in america. It's always been that way, they just have someone who has tapped into it for political gain.
Even if trump doesn't win the election, these people aren't going away. This is america
DemRed
19-07-2024, 07:26 AM
This video could be a game changer.
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…I don’t have time to watch the vid atm, Dem…but I have to say I’m so sceptical of these things and ‘rock solid evidence’ of such things…because there was a young man who really was ‘in plain sight’ on a rooftop all armed up with a rifle and explosives…securities seem to have been warned and informed by witnesses and yet…?….shots were still fired, lives were lost and harmed and Trump was endangered…and those are the facts cold and hard and rock solid….it feels (…to me…)…that everything else is just a distraction from the cock up of security that was apparent at that rally….
…I don’t have time to watch the vid atm, Dem…but I have to say I’m so sceptical of these things and ‘rock solid evidence’ of such things…because there was a young man who really was ‘in plain sight’ on a rooftop all armed up with a rifle and explosives…securities seem to have been warned and informed by witnesses and yet…?….shots were still fired, lives were lost and harmed and Trump was endangered…and those are the facts cold and hard and rock solid….it feels (…to me…)…that everything else is just a distraction from the cock up of security that was apparent at that rally….
yeah, i agree. Concentrate on why they allowed the rally to go ahead when there was an obvious threat out there that they lost track of. Concentrate on why the father was ignored when he called the police and warned them about his son. Concentrate on why Trump wasn't adequately protected from line of sight attacks
Their threat assessment procedures are obviously inadequate
yeah, i agree. Concentrate on why they allowed the rally to go ahead when there was an obvious threat out there that they lost track of. Concentrate on why the father was ignored when he called the police and warned them about his son. Concentrate on why Trump wasn't adequately protected from line of sight attacks
Their threat assessment procedures are obviously inadequate
…there’s so many ….’oh my goodness, look at that…!!!!!!!…’ type stuff now and yet apparently they were told and warned of this young man…a young man who wasn’t in any way a professional but someone who it was plain to see that he was a concern because that’s what the public were reporting him to be and he wasn’t ‘invisible’ to a general everyday public eye at that rally but apparently he was invisible to stringent security….and yet now, all of these theories and clues and add ons etc ….why would anyone feel any value in any of those when there was such a basic failure to protect life when it was called for…
DemRed
19-07-2024, 08:20 AM
…I don’t have time to watch the vid atm, Dem…but I have to say I’m so sceptical of these things and ‘rock solid evidence’ of such things…because there was a young man who really was ‘in plain sight’ on a rooftop all armed up with a rifle and explosives…securities seem to have been warned and informed by witnesses and yet…?….shots were still fired, lives were lost and harmed and Trump was endangered…and those are the facts cold and hard and rock solid….it feels (…to me…)…that everything else is just a distraction from the cock up of security that was apparent at that rally….
That's fine Ammi, but I hope at some point you will watch it because it begs the question, were there two or even three shooters. The man in this video is a gun expert who has collaborated with other gun experts.
This is all being put down to Crooks being the lone gun man. A man/lad who was a bit odd. This was the same with Lee Harvey Oswald in the shooting of JFK. Now it turns out that Oswald was used as the intended patsy and there was much more involvement in the assassination of JFK.
DemRed
19-07-2024, 08:23 AM
yeah, i agree. Concentrate on why they allowed the rally to go ahead when there was an obvious threat out there that they lost track of. Concentrate on why the father was ignored when he called the police and warned them about his son. Concentrate on why Trump wasn't adequately protected from line of sight attacks
Their threat assessment procedures are obviously inadequate
I'd say, concentrate on everything, including why the FBI ignored warnings from the police. Sometimes, things are not as they seem.
Gusto Brunt
19-07-2024, 08:27 AM
Everyone talks about Biden's age but Trump is 80 in 2 years.
thesheriff443
19-07-2024, 08:43 AM
Everyone talks about Biden's age but Trump is 80 in 2 years.
The way he went to the ground after being shot was very impressive
Gusto Brunt
19-07-2024, 08:45 AM
The way he went to the ground after being shot was very impressive
Almost like a stunt man. :hee:
thesheriff443
19-07-2024, 08:46 AM
Almost like a stunt man. :hee:
Don’t you start with conspiracy theory :joker:
Oliver_W
19-07-2024, 08:47 AM
Everyone talks about Biden's age but Trump is 80 in 2 years.
Yes, I'm sure Trump will suddenly become as evidently-old Biden is now, in exactly two years :rolleyes:.
thesheriff443
19-07-2024, 08:50 AM
Yes, I'm sure Trump will suddenly become as evidently-old Biden is now, in exactly two years :rolleyes:.
It’s funny about age and your parents when you see them all the time and out of the blue one day you see them and think fcuk it’s like they got really old over night
Gusto Brunt
19-07-2024, 08:52 AM
Yes, I'm sure Trump will suddenly become as evidently-old Biden is now, in exactly two years :rolleyes:.
:shocked::shocked::shocked:
Don’t you start with conspiracy theory :joker:
:joker:
user104658
19-07-2024, 11:31 AM
Yes, I'm sure Trump will suddenly become as evidently-old Biden is now, in exactly two years :rolleyes:.
You say that sarcastically but there is genuinely (for most people) a huge and evident leap from "old" to "elderly" that happens around 80, similar to what happens in the "early" years I guess.
A two-year difference up until about age 15 or 16 is huge and obvious. In the middle the gap is far less evident (depending on lifestyle you'd sometimes be hard pressed to see any difference between a healthy 45 year old and an unhealthy 30 year old).
But then at the late stages, yeah, you can have someone seeming quite bright/present still in their late 70's and totally gone (or tbqfh - dead) in their early 80's. Elderliness/Frailty, once it starts, sets in FAST.
user104658
19-07-2024, 11:34 AM
It’s funny about age and your parents when you see them all the time and out of the blue one day you see them and think fcuk it’s like they got really old over night
Indeed - my dad helped us move house in his mid-60's and was lugging furniture around with me like he would have at any other time I can remember. A couple of years later we were out to dinner with them and in my head I was thinking "fck, I would NEVER ask him to do something like that now and would be really worried about his health if he tried". Like you say it's like he went from middle-aged to an old man over night.
Crimson Dynamo
19-07-2024, 12:53 PM
what on earth?
"So we are now getting more info the woman in the pic behind Trump that
didn't flinch when the shots came instead started recording Trump we now
know she is Janeen Diguiseppi assistant Director to the FBI!"
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GS2E-SbXsAAozif?format=jpg&name=small
https://x.com/1mZerOCool/status/1814252432710373390
With a name like that you would think shed have a mask on.
user104658
19-07-2024, 02:38 PM
With a name like that you would think shed have a mask on.
:joker:
arista
19-07-2024, 02:44 PM
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-deca9a8a-0e13-43ea-9ada-bf6181117887.png
what on earth?
"So we are now getting more info the woman in the pic behind Trump that
didn't flinch when the shots came instead started recording Trump we now
know she is Janeen Diguiseppi assistant Director to the FBI!"
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GS2E-SbXsAAozif?format=jpg&name=small
https://x.com/1mZerOCool/status/1814252432710373390Mmm. Not sure. The nose and jaw-line look different.
Crimson Dynamo
19-07-2024, 03:16 PM
Mmm. Not sure. The nose and jaw-line look different.
Yeah for me the lips don't match
Ninastar
19-07-2024, 03:35 PM
I cannot fathom the idea of anyone knowing this was going to happen, being anywhere near assault rifle fire.
Even if it was a set up and these people knew it was going to happen, I just don’t see any person thinking “okay, they are gonna shoot X amount of times but they definitely won’t hit me so I’m okay just standing here”
So much could go wrong so quickly. Not even trump would risk the change of being shot within distance of an assault riffle
It’s just crazy to me that people would think this.
Were these people told “okay, so a 20yo who is known to have a bad shot is gonna aim for trump, but don’t worry cause he’s for deffo only going to hit trump and no one else. There’s no chance of us messing up lol x”
user104658
19-07-2024, 03:40 PM
I cannot fathom the idea of anyone knowing this was going to happen, being anywhere near assault rifle fire.
Even if it was a set up and these people knew it was going to happen, I just don’t see any person thinking “okay, they are gonna shoot X amount of times but they definitely won’t hit me so I’m okay just standing here”
So much could go wrong so quickly. Not even trump would risk the change of being shot within distance of an assault riffle
It’s just crazy to me that people would think this.
Were these people told “okay, so a 20yo who is known to have a bad shot is gonna aim for trump, but don’t worry cause he’s for deffo only going to hit trump and no one else. There’s no chance of us messing up lol x”
The conspiracy theory would be that there was in fact no live fire other than the perp being shot, and assumedly, the member of the crowd as a "red herring".
I'm not saying I buy into any such theory, just that that would be the idea - that Trump was never actually in any line of fire. Theories that a "device" was hidden in the hat to deliberately nick his ear. Etc.
Ninastar
19-07-2024, 03:44 PM
A device in the hat??!
Lmao I’m sorry but that is just reaching
I guess the hat didn’t work too well for ol Abe now did it
So many what the **** situations about this but the idea of any person willingly sitting in the line of fire is just the craziest to me
Also just seen something on Twitter saying it was Jill Biden lmao
You can’t make this **** up
Ninastar
19-07-2024, 03:44 PM
Also I’m not just talking about trump, I’m talking about this fbi chick they are saying is involved
Crimson Dynamo
19-07-2024, 05:47 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GS3ez_RXIAAPX15?format=png&name=small
Crimson Dynamo
19-07-2024, 06:12 PM
Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg has described former US President Donald
Trump’s reaction to being shot as “one of the most badass things I’ve ever
seen in my life.”
https://i.insider.com/669a78b380d4d5da13d5560f?width=700
This is why the people love Trump. He's not a politician, out for anything he can get to make himself rich. He doesn't need to. He's already rich and he understands he's rich because hard working, working class people were the real ones that helped build the empire he got.
It's less than a week ago he almost had his brains blasted by the deep state. But his thoughts are with the little people.
If you've ever actually listened to Trump, he will always let you know that it was the workers that helped him reach the pinnacle.
He doesn't need to do what he's doing, he could retire and live the rest of his life in luxury. He does it for the forgotten people that helped him and he as the most respect for.
He's one of us. That's why people fight his corner and why I have never stopped fighting his corner.
He does it because he knows his people are being cheated.(that's why the elites hate him, they want to hang on to power, whereas Trump wants to give the power back to the people, how it should be in a democracy)
One of the greats.
1814410668356882830
Crimson Dynamo
19-07-2024, 09:45 PM
His speech was one of the most moving in political history
arista
20-07-2024, 02:43 PM
The Terrorist
flew a drone over the whole area a few
weeks before.
So he did his research.
Good the sniper team shot his head
to bits, fast.
CNN HD USA Live on UK TV
Crimson Dynamo
22-07-2024, 02:06 PM
Live hearing now
vGRqQ07uhVQ
user104658
22-07-2024, 02:19 PM
This is why the people love Trump. He's not a politician, out for anything he can get to make himself rich. He doesn't need to. He's already rich and he understands he's rich because hard working, working class people were the real ones that helped build the empire he got.
It's less than a week ago he almost had his brains blasted by the deep state. But his thoughts are with the little people.
If you've ever actually listened to Trump, he will always let you know that it was the workers that helped him reach the pinnacle.
He doesn't need to do what he's doing, he could retire and live the rest of his life in luxury. He does it for the forgotten people that helped him and he as the most respect for.
He's one of us. That's why people fight his corner and why I have never stopped fighting his corner.
He does it because he knows his people are being cheated.(that's why the elites hate him, they want to hang on to power, whereas Trump wants to give the power back to the people, how it should be in a democracy)
One of the greats.
1814410668356882830
You're an enigma Alf, I honestly have no idea how anyone can believe so deeply in conspiracies and the deep state and not realise that, if there's truth to it, Trump is baked right into the pudding. A part of the mechanism entirely necessary for the social media age.
user104658
22-07-2024, 02:20 PM
His speech was one of the most moving in political history
The silliness on this forum still surprises daily. "In political history" ffs :joker:.
Crimson Dynamo
22-07-2024, 02:24 PM
The silliness on this forum still surprises daily. "In political history" ffs :joker:.
Name a more moving speech from a President who was days before shot and nearly killed but for a miracle?
user104658
22-07-2024, 02:28 PM
from a President who was days before shot and nearly killed but for a miracle?
That's a slightly tighter criteria than "all of political history" you must've had a full team of contractors for how far you've moved those goalposts.
Crimson Dynamo
22-07-2024, 02:33 PM
That's a slightly tighter criteria than "all of political history" you must've had a full team of contractors for how far you've moved those goalposts.
well just name a more moving speech from a president
Just say you cant think if 1, sb
Crimson Dynamo
22-07-2024, 02:39 PM
Just say you cant think if 1, sb
I'm laughing thinking of him furiously watching old speeches on YOu tube :joker:
user104658
22-07-2024, 03:05 PM
I'm laughing thinking of him furiously watching old speeches on YOu tube :joker:
You vastly overestimate how much time I'm willing to spend on this place, I haven't even googled, I just know that logically deeming a speech Trump's made in the last few days as "the most moving in political history" is bat**** crazy claim. I don't need to justify the counterstance. You might as well be saying he poops gold bars - I ain't going to search for medical research to prove that it isn't likely :joker:.
Liam-
22-07-2024, 03:08 PM
Can we stop pretending he was shot now? Because he very clearly wasn’t
user104658
22-07-2024, 03:10 PM
Can we stop pretending he was shot now? Because he very clearly wasn’t
Orange Ears Matter, Liam.
arista
22-07-2024, 03:10 PM
The Stupid Secret Service Lady Boss Live all TV news
is getting in a muddle
The senator asked 10 times
she would not answer
arista
22-07-2024, 03:13 PM
even worse Now
She says Ask the FBI
arista
22-07-2024, 03:18 PM
Now the playing the Video
She had the chance to stop Trump
Now another senator getting angry with her
SkyNewsHD Live
Crimson Dynamo
22-07-2024, 03:24 PM
Video shown of shooter on the roof with multiple people shouting at police "he is on the roof"
2 minutes before first shot
"did the Secret Service at any time think to get Trump off the stage"
"no"
F.ucking Hell this is a shambles of epic proportions
Crimson Dynamo
22-07-2024, 03:26 PM
One senator asks "If Trump had been assassinated would you have resigned"?
She warbles out she would have done the same enquiry as she is doing now (internal) and does not say she would have resigned
WOW
arista
22-07-2024, 03:28 PM
Video shown of shooter on the roof with multiple people shouting at police "he is on the roof"
2 minutes before first shot
"did the Secret Service at any time think to get Trump off the stage"
"no"
F.ucking Hell this is a shambles of epic proportions
She Employs Women Agents
who can not holster her gun
arista
22-07-2024, 03:28 PM
Sack her
arista
22-07-2024, 03:30 PM
Mr. Khanna
said she must Resign.
Crimson Dynamo
22-07-2024, 03:30 PM
Is this the worst security mistake since Reagan
she says "yes"
Do you know what the head of the SS did after the Reagan attempt?
she says "he remained in duty"
Senator "He resigned"
:skull:
arista
22-07-2024, 03:33 PM
BBCnewsHD
CNN HD
Crimson Dynamo
22-07-2024, 03:35 PM
The shooter has explosives in his car and also down near a main gas-line!
arista
22-07-2024, 03:38 PM
The shooter has explosives in his car and also down near a main gas-line!
It is OK
FBI looking into it
Crimson Dynamo
22-07-2024, 03:53 PM
Even AOC is ripping her to shreds!
Crimson Dynamo
22-07-2024, 03:57 PM
This is unreal
user104658
22-07-2024, 03:58 PM
I mean really there are only three possibilities
1) It was a monumental security cock-up
2) It was a conspiracy/assassination Deep State plot that the security agents were in on
3) It was a conspiracy/staged false-flag Trump Truther plot that the security agents were in on.
Occam's razor of course says it's #1.
arista
22-07-2024, 04:05 PM
I mean really there are only three possibilities
1) It was a monumental security cock-up
2) It was a conspiracy/assassination Deep State plot that the security agents were in on
3) It was a conspiracy/staged false-flag Trump Truther plot that the security agents were in on.
Occam's razor of course says it's #1.
Yes she did not communicate
with the FBI
It is like they a lower down from her........................................
Sacking her would be Fair
Crimson Dynamo
22-07-2024, 04:14 PM
One lady Senator just said "you are full of sh1t" "you are dishonest"
Crimson Dynamo
22-07-2024, 04:36 PM
She has never visited the site
9 days later and she has not been there
incredible
the shooter has visited the site 2x more than her
Crimson Dynamo
22-07-2024, 04:41 PM
the roof whose slope she said was dangerous was so not dangerous that you could have erected a wheelchair ramp on it
her own snipers were on a roof with double the slope
So that was just a lie
what else is a lie?
Crimson Dynamo
22-07-2024, 06:31 PM
Bipartizan call from Congress for this useless DEI hire to resign
wow
the roof whose slope she said was dangerous was so not dangerous that you could have erected a wheelchair ramp on it
her own snipers were on a roof with double the slope
So that was just a lie
what else is a lie?
All of it...watch the debate again and see how angry biden gets defending his son.
Crimson Dynamo
23-07-2024, 07:42 AM
was that shooter blind or something :laugh3: from such a close distance and still missing that orange blob
:facepalm:
what?
arista
23-07-2024, 07:50 AM
He Fired his bullet as Trump Turned his head at the Screen
Nicky,
So it was a second or 2
to early
Then the Government Sniper then killed
the Terrorist fast
Nicky91
23-07-2024, 07:58 AM
Trump got very lucky, so lucky that his ear is already recovering quite fastly, so the injury might not have been that severe
maybe bleeding was more from the bullet scraping next to his ear
was a great gesture from his fans either the next day, also covering their ears, shows really how devoted they are to world's greatest leader and world's greatest entrepeneur
arista
23-07-2024, 10:05 AM
Nicky
Never Mind Trump
A Good Fireman was murdered by this Terrorist
arista
23-07-2024, 02:35 PM
Kimberly Cheatle Secret Service Director
has now Resigned
Good News
Crimson Dynamo
23-07-2024, 02:40 PM
She had no option - her lies and covering up yesterday were despicable
He Fired his bullet as Trump Turned his head at the Screen
Nicky,
So it was a second or 2
to early
Then the Government Sniper then killed
the Terrorist fast
But not fast enough to stop him firing off half a dozen shots.
Kimberly Cheatle Secret Service Director
has now Resigned
Good News
That took too long.
user104658
23-07-2024, 03:35 PM
That took too long.
It's madness... when you take on a high profile position like that in the first place, you do so in the full understanding that part of the role is buffering the service when a mistake is made by immediately stepping down. It's part of the whole mechanism. The job's yours until you need to take the fall, and then there's generally another low-profile position with similar pay waiting elsewhere for you (intentional so that people can do exactly that - take the hit in stepping down).
Can't fathom why this one held on :shrug: it's totally off script for this sort of thing.
arista
23-07-2024, 05:46 PM
She had no option - her lies and covering up yesterday were despicable
Very True.
Crimson Dynamo
23-07-2024, 06:37 PM
Her lack of any emotion yesterday was appalling
she is a big friend of the Bidens and used to do security for them
why are some humans so disgusting?
arista
24-07-2024, 02:27 PM
Now the FBI Director Christoper Wray
is live
Capitol Hill.
All News.
He fired 8 Shots (The Terrorist)
Sadly one murdered the Good Fireman Died.
arista
24-07-2024, 02:38 PM
Wray stated,
cutting FBI funding would be foolish.
arista
24-07-2024, 02:42 PM
The FBI recovered the Terrorist's Drone
it was in his car.
Some Hours before the event
but only at the edge of the area.
In his Car
the Terrorist had Receivers and Transmitters
of Crude Bomb in his car.
arista
24-07-2024, 03:04 PM
This FBI boss
far better than the Lady in charge of the Secret Service
who resigned.
Isnt it true he had to rush his shots due to a police officer climbing his ladder and discovering him.
Here is my take..he stashed the gun days before on the roof...His drone would be to check if the roof was clear. He brought his view finder with him on the day as they are not prohibited items. For me the cop climbing his ladder and discovering him explains why he didnt take out the snipers first to allow him more time on trump.
arista
24-07-2024, 03:18 PM
Isnt it true he had to rush his shots due to a police officer climbing his ladder and discovering him.
Yes could be
Or perhaps he was waiting until an Iranian sniper took out the snipers for him.
arista
24-07-2024, 10:03 PM
The Terrorist Googled
JFK killings
GoldHeart
24-07-2024, 11:43 PM
The Terrorist Googled
JFK killings
What in the actual F :umm2: ..... he really was looking for inspiration and ideas then, it's actually scary how a lunatic can just go out and do this.... without a care in the world for human rights and the lives of innocent people.
arista
25-07-2024, 12:23 AM
Good the Terrorist was shot dead.
Some people are now offering 3d prints of Trumps shot ear for sale :laugh:
"I ******ing told them they needed to post the guys ******ing over here... the Secret Service... I told them to post ******ing guys over here," an officer was heard saying.
"What the ******? I wasn't even concerned about it because I thought someone was on the roof," another officer said.
"Why were we not on the roof?"
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