Kamala Harris Campaign 2024

[Ammi]

Kamala Harris sends message to Donald Trump in direct challenge to live debate

Kamala Harris directly challenged Donald Trump to a live debate, telling the former president “say it to my face” at a rally in Atlanta on Tuesday, 30 July.
“Well, Donald, I do hope you’ll reconsider to meet me on the debate stage because as the saying goes, if you got something to say, say it to my face,” the vice president declared as she addressed the crowd.
Ms Harris, a former California attorney general, again drew on her role as a prosecutor as she explained why she was ready to take on the Republican candidate.

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[arista]

Atlanta on Tuesday, 30 July.


Trump was on a rally

[Maru]

Kamala Harris sends message to Donald Trump in direct challenge to live debate

Kamala Harris directly challenged Donald Trump to a live debate, telling the former president “say it to my face” at a rally in Atlanta on Tuesday, 30 July.
“Well, Donald, I do hope you’ll reconsider to meet me on the debate stage because as the saying goes, if you got something to say, say it to my face,” the vice president declared as she addressed the crowd.
Ms Harris, a former California attorney general, again drew on her role as a prosecutor as she explained why she was ready to take on the Republican candidate.

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Already going to her head. She thinks she has the job.

[Ammi]

Already going to her head. She thinks she has the job.

…the Donald loves a strong confident woman…not…

[GiRTh]

Already going to her head. She thinks she has the job.
She's just not likeable. I hope she wins but I doubt she will

[Maru]

She's just not likeable. I hope she wins but I doubt she will

There's more of a possibility she could win just because of the hype train effect. I don't think until Trump got shot that there was much "positive" energy politically because politics just seems to drag on now with no point. Still, I'm not sure how much national media plays into the psyche of the US voter and their decision-making. I haven't had cable in 5-6 years and I know very few people with cable. When I was with Nielsen (as a household), they told me outright a vast majority of their houses in our area are cable cutters and that most people are switching away (requiring a change in equipment to measure things). I know even fewer who watch cable news.

I really just want to FF to 2028 and see the future of either party, who they throw up as their flagbearers after the last several Presidents and the amount of scandals... it's hard to imagine we could get much lower.

[joeysteele]

I really hope she can pull it off.

I just cannot bear the thought of Trump back in power.

She's made a fighting start, however can she hold firm.
I hope so.

[Ammi]

She's just not likeable. I hope she wins but I doubt she will

…see, I don’t get that…that she’s not likeable…but I do agree that I doubt that she’ll win…she’s made election time a bit more fun than Trump v Biden, though…:laugh:….

[bots]

i think she is very likeable :laugh:

What she has done is give people hope and that is a priceless gift

[GiRTh]

Its a combination of her presidential run in 2020 - especially her performance in the debates, the bullying allegations and the way she dropped out.

Theres a craven ambition here that is not likeable.

[Liam-]

All politicians have ridiculous ambition, the American presidency is the most powerful job in the world, it’s a requirement to have unashamed ambition

[GiRTh]

Yes, I agree but her campaign seemed very Hillary Clinton. Harris never comes across as genuine. Biden did, Obama did, Harris doesnt.

[bots]

Its a combination of her presidential run in 2020 - especially her performance in the debates, the bullying allegations and the way she dropped out.

Theres a craven ambition here that is not likeable.

in these circumstances you get behind the person most likely to win and defend democracy. I think Harris has done a stellar job in waking the country up. She may well still lose, but the country is not going down now without a fight

[GiRTh]

in these circumstances you get behind the person most likely to win and defend democracy. I think Harris has done a stellar job in waking the country up. She may well still lose, but the country is not going down now without a fightI dont think she's the most likely person to win but I agree she's providing a welcome alternative.

[Liam-]

I think she has moments where someone has clearly fed her a line to say and it comes across as unnatural, but in general she comes across as one of the more down to earth politicians I’ve ever seen

[bots]

this is not weird at all, no no no :laugh:

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[Ammi]

Its a combination of her presidential run in 2020 - especially her performance in the debates, the bullying allegations and the way she dropped out.

Theres a craven ambition here that is not likeable.

….hmmmm, ok…I’m going to have to look up the bullying allegations as I wasn’t aware of any…for me it’s just felt a bit like someone opened a window in the campaign and let the sunlight in…

[Crimson Dynamo]

….hmmmm, ok…I’m going to have to look up the bullying allegations as I wasn’t aware of any…for me it’s just felt a bit like someone opened a window in the campaign and let the sunlight in…


https://cdn.psychologytoday.com/sites/default/files/styles/article-inline-half-caption/public/field_blog_entry_images/2021-09/gaslighting.jpg?itok=S6-vJmu3

[user104658]

this is not weird at all, no no no :laugh:

1818510773372522591

"That's what the science says" :joker:

[Maru]

Its a combination of her presidential run in 2020 - especially her performance in the debates, the bullying allegations and the way she dropped out.

Theres a craven ambition here that is not likeable.

Yes, I agree but her campaign seemed very Hillary Clinton. Harris never comes across as genuine. Biden did, Obama did, Harris doesnt.

Yes, and this is where my impression comes from as well, was from her Presidential campaign during 2020. The person they're portraying now is not the candidate I saw before. It's like they remade her from ground up to be more from Obama's playbook, which I mean, his image was crafted to be out of this world in the first place.. but he could speak eloquently enough that it at least kept up with the idealistic shoes he was fit to fill. It will be very interesting to see her hit the debate stage again. If she flubs that somehow, it will be bring back up the sting of Biden's performance, which won't bode well for her.

[Ammi]

…but then, I guess that it’s much more easy to look that comfortable and eloquent person and to look more ‘presidential’ as a male in a male dominated world of American politics/when it comes to presidential candidates…I still don’t think that American politics will accept a female president, females are very much more seen as First Ladies…but we’ll see, this at least is a step but I feel it’s as far as the step will go…

[Maru]

…but then, I guess that it’s much more easy to look that comfortable and eloquent person and to look more ‘presidential’ as a male in a male dominated world of American politics/when it comes to presidential candidates…I still don’t think that American politics will accept a female president, females are very much more seen as First Ladies…but we’ll see, this at least is a step but I feel it’s as far as the step will go…

We not only nominated, but actually elected a dementia patient. I think people way overestimate just how seriously we take choosing our politicians. Only the fringes seem to put so much weight on exactly which candidates get chosen. Some people will vote her just because she's a black woman and that's just as wrong as choosing someone because they are white, male.

If Trump is reelected, it'll be because of his politics and because he is a known variable. It's not because "Oh we need to pick the whitest, male-est candidate on stage". If Americans were so fixated on masculinity being in the role from the very beginning, we wouldn't have picked Biden the first go. He has made America look very weak on the national stage. I can't think of anyone who was like "But he had so much vitality before he was elected!" ...

Hillary would've won but she had scandals near the very end of her campaign which I think tanked her credibility enough to secure a Trump win. Nobody likes nepotism in politics and people eventually came to groan when they saw her on screen. This was well before she entered NY politics. She was not likable as FL. It's been repeatedly said she didn't enter politics to do lifelong service as much she coveted the Presidential role. For her, it was about being there "first" than being the right person because the job was (again: was) so precious...

Still, Kamala sleeping with politicians to climb isn't as key a factor to her downfall as I think can made out of it. Her success will hinge on whether can she fits the pedestal that's been built for her. If she can't, then the issues with nepotism become more endemic. I think it's much easier to accept than not "It's who you know" when it comes to politics and people sleeping with each other, even in a professional role, is also a fact of life :shrug: Also, let's not forget Kamala didn't even get nominated for this role properly (by public vote), so the test for whether she is even the best possible candidate for role isn't even be tested.. it's whether it's good enough to beat Trump is what she is being tested for.

So if 50% (an example number, but we know it's high) of the populace hate Trump, then arguably the bar is already low. Are we really going to suggest the 50% who hate Trump won't and can't see a woman in that role? That makes no sense, since feverishness around new wave feminism is one reason he's so widely panned.

[Gusto Brunt]

I had a dream about her last night. :shocked:

[bots]

i genuinely like her :laugh:

She is able to push through all the mess and nastiness and remain positive, optimistic and strong.

Throughout history, the right person has always appeared at the right time. It doesn't make them a wonderful person, it doesn't make them someone without flaws, it simply the right person for the time. I think Kamala is that person

[user104658]

Odds for Kamala to be next POTUS have shortened significantly since last week, Trump was sitting at 8/13 at one point but quite a few now sitting at 5/6 vs 11/10 which is only a hair away from evens and not the trajectory Donny wants to see at all so early in her campaign. He was looking pretty solid vs Biden.

One or two have Kamala at evens already (though nowhere offering that for Trump yet, he's still odds on at all the big 'uns).

Anecdotally, her events currently are also very high energy whereas Trumps seem to be in a bit of a rut since "the incident". Obvious reasons for both I guess. There's still the "newbie hype" for Harris.

But yeah... I'd have been very surprised if Biden had won in November, but I think it's very much in the air now. Trump had a lazy campaign planned against "sleepy Joe" and they'll need to pull together something higher energy very quickly to keep any momentum.

[Ammi]

…word on the street though is that the Russians are backing Trump to win and we know the ‘influence’ they can have on outcomes…

[user104658]

i genuinely like her :laugh:

She is able to push through all the mess and nastiness and remain positive, optimistic and strong.

Throughout history, the right person has always appeared at the right time. It doesn't make them a wonderful person, it doesn't make them someone without flaws, it simply the right person for the time. I think Kamala is that person

I don't think a genuinely GOOD good person can go up against someone like Trump he doesn't play a respectful political game, has to be someone willing to bite back a little, but not too much.

[bots]

I don't think a genuinely GOOD good person can go up against someone like Trump he doesn't play a respectful political game, has to be someone willing to bite back a little, but not too much.

The funny thing is that Kamala is using Bidens campaign team, but it's like the shackles have been taken off and they are now doing really well.

Trump doesn't know how to deal with Kamala, so it makes him more and more angry, and he is saying more and more batshit crazy stuff as a result.

His latest racist rants have been quite insane and he called into a radio show and said he was not weird, it's Kamala that's weird. She is really getting under his skin :laugh:

[user104658]

…word on the street though is that the Russians are backing Trump to win and we know the ‘influence’ they can have on outcomes…

Don't be silly Ammi, the Russian election tampering can never compete with the Deep State election tampering. Really it's not about votes, it's about who has the more 1337 hacking skillz.

[user104658]

His latest racist rants have been quite insane and he called into a radio show and said he was not weird, it's Kamala that's weird. She is really getting under his skin :laugh:

https://i.imgur.com/b9CD89u.jpeg

He's been on TiBB looking for tips.

[joeysteele]

She's certainly made an impressive start.

I'll keep my fingers crossed that she can bring off a big shock here and ease through to the win.

[Alf]

…the Donald loves a strong confident woman…not…He's married to one and his daughters, daughter in laws and granddaughter are one.

[Alf]

…word on the street though is that the Russians are backing Trump to win and we know the ‘influence’ they can have on outcomes…That was also the word on the street in 2016. It turned out that it was all made up. But I'm sure this time will be different.

[Alf]

i had a dream about her last night. :shocked:1819163745396183312

[user104658]

That was also the word on the street in 2016. It turned out that it was all made up. But I'm sure this time will be different.

But the democrats manipulating the vote in 2020 was definitely true, right? And if the Democrats win this time it will definitely be vote manipulation. But if Trump wins, there was definitely no vote manipulation. That's how it works right? Genuinely asking I don't want to look foolish by getting the assigned rhetoric wrong.

[bots]

US Vice-President Kamala Harris has passed the threshold to clinch the Democratic presidential nomination in a vote of party delegates.

Speaking by telephone, Ms Harris said she was "honoured to be the presumptive nominee" as the virtual roll call continues ahead of the Democratic National Convention (DNC) in Chicago later this month.

Ms Harris is the first black woman and first South Asian woman to become the White House standard-bearer for a major US political party.

If she defeats Donald Trump, the Republican nominee, in November she would be America's first female president.

[arista]

Trump has agreed on a TV Debate with Harris
in Pennsylvania , before they start voting


[Trump Agrees to a Fox News Debate With Harris on Sept. 4

According to Mr. Trump’s post on social media,
the debate will take place in Pennsylvania,
a crucial battleground state.]

Ref:NYT

[arista]

I had a dream about her last night. :shocked:


Was she stuck on Tiolet
while wars are starting?

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Liam-]

Trump has chickened out of the already agreed to debate and wants to schedule his own one with a Trump friendly station with Trump friendly ‘moderators’ because he’s **** scared of debating Harris in an open and fair setting

[Crimson Dynamo]

Trump has chickened out of the already agreed to debate and wants to schedule his own one with a Trump friendly station with Trump friendly ‘moderators’ because he’s **** scared of debating Harris in an open and fair setting

:joker:

Stop making stuff up

[arista]

Harris needs to get away from her Teleprompter

She Now Backs Fracking?
Before she said it was wrong

She now Backs ICE (The border patrol)
Before she said it was like the KKK

less than 95 days
Harris is not yet been able to answer proper questions

Do you agree, Ammi?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Her latest hard hitting advert :shocked:


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[arista]

CNN HD USA on UK TV

Inside Politics,
thinks Harris will pick Al Shapiro
will be her deputy...........................

[arista]

Also,
Harris still has to Give
an interview One on One
with a press person.


Get a Move on
Stop Hidding Harris

[Crimson Dynamo]

In the last 24 hours, Close to $1.2 BILLION has been WIPED from the crypto markets..

KAMALA CRASH..

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUOz0-3XEAAGbAf?format=jpg&name=small

[Glenn.]

:joker:

[user104658]

In the last 24 hours, Close to $1.2 BILLION has been WIPED from the crypto markets..

KAMALA CRASH..

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUOz0-3XEAAGbAf?format=jpg&name=small

Global markets have been given a rattle by finance sector issues in Japan, but I'm sure his more gullible supporters will believe this. Not any of the ones actually holding any significant amount of stock or crypto, mind you, because they'll be reading the actual financial news and not X.

[Liam-]

https://twitter.com/acnewsitics/status/1820472087229714816?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

[Crimson Dynamo]

WASHINGTON — Former President Donald Trump on Monday labeled a sharp drop in the stock market “the Kamala Crash,” linking to the ascension of Vice President Harris as the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee.

“Of course there is a massive market downturn. Kamala is even worse than Crooked Joe,” Trump, 78, wrote on social media Monday morning — after the Dow Jones Industrial Average plunged 1,000 points in morning trading after closing down more than 600 points on Friday.

“Markets will NEVER accept the Radical Left Lunatic that DESTROYED San Francisco and California, as a whole. Next move, THE GREAT DEPRESSION OF 2024! You can’t play games with MARKETS. KAMALA CRASH!!!” Trump added.

The stock market selloff is linked by economists to a weaker-than-expected jobs growth report released Friday morning, which showed 114,000 new positions added to the US economy in July — well below the expected 175,000 jobs — signaling a potential slowdown or recession.

Trump wrote in a subsequent all-caps post: “VOTERS HAVE A CHOICE — TRUMP PROSPERITY, OR THE KAMALA CRASH & GREAT DEPRESSION OF 2024, NOT TO MENTION THE PROBABILITY OF WORLD WAR lll IF THESE VERY STUPID PEOPLE REMAIN IN OFFICE. REMEMBER, TRUMP WAS RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING!!!”

https://nypost.com/2024/08/05/us-news/trump-branks-stock-market-tumble-as-the-kamala-crash/

[Glenn.]

He’s such a **** :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

She has caused a stock market crash

She is worse than Starmer


:omgno:

[Glenn.]

She has caused a stock market crash

She is worse than Starmer


:omgno:

Ok LT whatever you say :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker:

[user104658]

WASHINGTON — Former President Donald Trump on Monday labeled a sharp drop in the stock market “the Kamala Crash,” linking to the ascension of Vice President Harris as the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee.

“Of course there is a massive market downturn. Kamala is even worse than Crooked Joe,” Trump, 78, wrote on social media Monday morning — after the Dow Jones Industrial Average plunged 1,000 points in morning trading after closing down more than 600 points on Friday.

“Markets will NEVER accept the Radical Left Lunatic that DESTROYED San Francisco and California, as a whole. Next move, THE GREAT DEPRESSION OF 2024! You can’t play games with MARKETS. KAMALA CRASH!!!” Trump added.

The stock market selloff is linked by economists to a weaker-than-expected jobs growth report released Friday morning, which showed 114,000 new positions added to the US economy in July — well below the expected 175,000 jobs — signaling a potential slowdown or recession.

Trump wrote in a subsequent all-caps post: “VOTERS HAVE A CHOICE — TRUMP PROSPERITY, OR THE KAMALA CRASH & GREAT DEPRESSION OF 2024, NOT TO MENTION THE PROBABILITY OF WORLD WAR lll IF THESE VERY STUPID PEOPLE REMAIN IN OFFICE. REMEMBER, TRUMP WAS RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING!!!”

https://nypost.com/2024/08/05/us-news/trump-branks-stock-market-tumble-as-the-kamala-crash/

The stock market slump was caused by Japan's central bank upping their interest rate, and the fact that an awful lot of people who thought they were being clever have been utilising favourable interest and exchange rates between the yen and the $/£ to grow their wealth (and got burned).

Trump shows nowt but contempt for his support base. He believes that they're uninformed and gullible enough to but whatever he says, OR agenda-driven and shrewd enough to play along with his LARPing.

tbf he's not wrong.

[The Slim Reaper]

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That dude had the toughest paper round in America. 21? Jesus.

[arista]

Harris has picked Tim Walz as her VP

[Liam-]

The perfect choice

[arista]

https://wisevoter.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Tim-Walz-e1667928229578.jpg


Tim Walz her new VP

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Walz

[bots]

Good pick

[Liam-]

He’s done a lot of great stuff in his state and is the antithesis of everything JD Vance stands for, a great speaker, a normal bloke and one of the first people to go out there with the ‘weird’ narrative that is true and working, a very smart choice by Harris and her team

[Ammi]

In January 2023, Walz signed the PRO Act (Protect Reproductive Options Act) into law, making abortion a "fundamental right," as well as access to contraception, fertility treatments, sterilization and other reproductive health care.

The law made Minnesota the first state to codify abortion rights in the aftermath of the U.S. Supreme Court's 2022 ruling in the case of Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization, which nullified Roe. v. Wade after nearly 50 years of precedent.

"Your access to reproductive health and your right to make your own health care decisions are preserved and protected," Walz said during the signing ceremony. "And because of this law, that won't change with the political wins or makeup of the Supreme Court. This is a bill for Minnesota today and all future generations."

…I’ll read more about him but I’m liking the sound of Mr Walz so far…

[bots]

In January 2023, Walz signed the PRO Act (Protect Reproductive Options Act) into law, making abortion a "fundamental right," as well as access to contraception, fertility treatments, sterilization and other reproductive health care.

The law made Minnesota the first state to codify abortion rights in the aftermath of the U.S. Supreme Court's 2022 ruling in the case of Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization, which nullified Roe. v. Wade after nearly 50 years of precedent.

"Your access to reproductive health and your right to make your own health care decisions are preserved and protected," Walz said during the signing ceremony. "And because of this law, that won't change with the political wins or makeup of the Supreme Court. This is a bill for Minnesota today and all future generations."

…I’ll read more about him but I’m liking the sound of Mr Walz so far…


i've seen him speak on a few news channels and he gets his point across clearly and calmly

[Liam-]

https://twitter.com/jeremyslevin/status/1820808981285065116?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

[user104658]

Can you imagine having a POTUS and Veep who both thus far seem like normal humans? I'm not joking in saying that I can't think of a time entirely like that in living memory for me :joker:. Obama was a smooth orator to be fair -- but then, we had ol' Biden already in the copilot seat.

[user104658]

i've seen him speak on a few news channels and he gets his point across clearly and calmly

This is what the likes of Trump and Vance are going to struggle with. Their "tongue in cheek" sarcasm and retorts played well against Biden, who was constantly stumbling and confused seeming, which made Trump look sharp in comparison.

Doing the same ol' act with people who are responding strongly and clearly is going to make him look petty/silly (which of course, he is).

[Ammi]

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/McDOCs5CFPzXBUIGJoq9Ng--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTIzNDA7aD0xMzE2/https://media.zenfs.com/en/thedailybeast.com/9c9b16b28b83f6175dc442f602da90ef

[Gusto Brunt]

I've said this before: I think she'll have the Boris Johnson 'joker' appeal, :joker: which in her case probably is a good thing.

She's not serious and I think she may have good diplomatic skills on the world stage. I can't imagine her ever being hard on any country to start a WW3.

I do think she'll win. Trump now looks like the dotty old man. Sorry. :p

[user104658]

I do think she'll win. Trump now looks like the dotty old man. Sorry. :p

I think it was deliberate. They let the republicans stage an entire campaign based on Biden being past it... and then pulled him out, leaving Trump as the old man, with all of those criticisms now sitting at his own feet.

[bots]

She was a very successful prosecutor, so she is deadly serious when she has to be. She also likes to have a bit of fun, hug people and dance making her very approachable and normal

[bots]

decision has been made slim

[The Slim Reaper]

I thought the election was over, but I think after the democratic conference, she'll be ahead (conferences always provide a bounce in polls to both sides).

Added on to the fact, that court cases are now starting to move again. He'll be sentenced for the NY one later this month (I believe), which won't help trump gain any new voters but will more than likely haemorrhage a lot, but as always it will come down to a few thousand votes in a few states. Another country that needs to change it's voting system.

[The Slim Reaper]

decision has been made slim

I saw afterwards :laugh:

Have to say, Bots. Absolutely loving your work in this thread, as I've just read through and caught up.

[Maru]

https://wisevoter.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Tim-Walz-e1667928229578.jpg


Tim Walz her new VP

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Walz

Oh nice, someone else we don't know that well

[joeysteele]

How I really hope this turns into a winning team.

[bots]

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[The Slim Reaper]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUTPQbqaUAAbLS8?format=png&name=900x900

[arista]

Oh nice, someone else we don't know that well


CNN HD USA Live
on UK TV showed him speaking Live,


Big fellow
very relaxed


Harris was standing behind him.

[bots]

it was Obama level of enthusiasm at the Dems event last night. Quite a spectacle

[Ammi]

…yeah, I was watching a bit earlier…they seem like quite the dream team for the Dems…lots of Harris/Walz gifs and memes already…

[Liam-]

Yeah watching the rally live it was quite something, the biggest take away is that he seems like a thoroughly decent man and the excitement is very real

[Nicky91]

could've also chosen a younger running mate Kamala

instead of this boomer :bored:

[bots]

there is a 1.5 mile queue to get in to Kamala's event tonight :laugh:

[Ammi]

there is a 1.5 mile queue to get in to Kamala's event tonight :laugh:

…Kamila’s event…?….

[bots]

…Kamila’s event…?….

Rally

[Ammi]

Rally

…that really didn’t work at all…(…I knew it was her rally…:laugh:…)….it was when you said that there was a 1.5 mile queue for the event, I changed her name from Kamala to Kamile-a…so yes, that worked well…I’m glad to see that Kamala’s rally worked well, though…:laugh:…

[Ammi]

…honestly bots, it was early in the am…

[Ammi]

…give a girl a break…

[bots]

haha, i've only just had my first coffee of the day

[user104658]

That's a terrible pun Ammi it's ruined my morning. Given me the right ick that has.

[Ammi]

That's a terrible pun Ammi it's ruined my morning. Given me the right ick that has.

…yeah well…maybe you have a higher level of humour but mine is pretty basic children’s stuff …I’m obviously still learning from them, they do it perfectly…I didn’t/such an amateur ….

[bots]

There were 50k people at her Detroit rally last night, they had to move the event to an airport hanger

[Ammi]

…I’m not even going to try any airport hanger puns because y’all such ungrateful lil runts…

[Alf]

There was no Kamala event.

She's putting on pop concerts with pop stars, to bring in a crowd to give you gullible lunatics the illusion she's liked before they attempt to steal the election again.

[user104658]

There was no Kamala event.

She's putting on pop concerts with pop stars, to bring in a crowd to give you gullible lunatics the illusion she's liked before they attempt to steal the election again.

Alf if someone on X told you that 90% of Kamala's rally was secretly cardboard cutouts animated with CGI you'd believe it immediately and repost it on here.

[Parmy]

…I’m not even going to try any airport hanger puns because y’all such ungrateful lil runts…

You're usually so good at plain talking.

[user104658]

You're usually so good at plain talking.

I've always found her a little flighty.

[Ammi]

…probably because I wing it all so much that my puns never land…and sometimes never even take off….

[bots]

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[The Slim Reaper]

Holy moly

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[Ammi]

Holy moly

1821257318442660259

….ouch, ouch, ouch that had to hurt a little…that’s some commitment, though …I wonder if it’s fake or for real…her name is Rain Monroe, I think she’s a Kamala supporter…

[The Slim Reaper]

….ouch, ouch, ouch that had to hurt a little…that’s some commitment, though …I wonder if it’s fake or for real…her name is Rain Monroe, I think she’s a Kamala supporter…

I wouldn't be surprised if it's fake - it's t'internet after all. It only works because we think it's not beyond the realms of possibility that a trump supporter would actually do it :laugh:

[Liam-]

https://twitter.com/keithedwards/status/1821534379824288233?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

Oop

[Ammi]

I wouldn't be surprised if it's fake - it's t'internet after all. It only works because we think it's not beyond the realms of possibility that a trump supporter would actually do it :laugh:

…also, I did Google to see who she was and t’internet was describing Rain Monroe as a Tattoo Enthusiast…yet from what I can see, she has no visible tattoos except for the large Trump on her forehead…which doesn’t feel quite ‘real news, folks’…I guess she could be just starting out her Tattoo Enthusiast career with a full forehead inking..

[The Slim Reaper]

…also, I did Google to see who she was and t’internet was describing Rain Monroe as a Tattoo Enthusiast…yet from what I can see, she has no visible tattoos except for the large Trump on her forehead…which doesn’t feel quite ‘real news, folks’…I guess she could be just starting out her Tattoo Enthusiast career with a full forehead inking..

Just had a quick glance at her insta (for science, you understand), and she does appear to have tattoo's on her butt cheeks, and she also has one on her breast plate. I'm sure Zeez could prob be a bit more thorough with the research, though.

[Ammi]

Just had a quick glance at her insta (for science, you understand), and she does appear to have tattoo's on her butt cheeks, and she also has one on her breast plate. I'm sure Zeez could prob be a bit more thorough with the research, though.

…yeah, I wasn’t sure hence the ‘visible’ bit …I guess it just shows that we can’t judge a tattoo enthusiast by their lack of visible tattoos…(..I might be incorrect but I feel that Trump on face feels not real and actual…)..because it doesn’t seem like a ‘first visible inking’ thing if her others are more private…she must really love that man if it’s an actual permanent one…


…edited to say that I do appreciate the time you took to research, though…that’s pure dedication to truth…

[bots]

Harris and Trump have agreed to the existing abc debate on 10th September

[Maru]

Holy moly

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It's like someone slapped her upside the forehead with a Cricut machine.

[Alf]

It's like someone slapped her upside the forehead with a Cricut machine.What do you Americans know about Kamala's running mate and stolen valor?

Is it in the news over there?

[joeysteele]

It's what her polling andvtesuktiwill be in the swing States though.
Trump has never won the popular vote, he was behind Hilary Clinton too.

How I hope this team of Harris wins however.
Never used to be bothered who won in the USA, although I'd vote Democrat if I was American.

However I've never wanted someone to lose election more that I do Trump.
I can't stand him.

[Alf]

It's what her polling andvtesuktiwill be in the swing States though.
Trump has never won the popular vote, he was behind Hilary Clinton too.

How I hope this team of Harris wins however.
Never used to be bothered who won in the USA, although I'd vote Democrat if I was American.

However I've never wanted someone to lose election more that I do Trump.
I can't stand him.We know, you've been telling us for nearly ten years. Look here what it's done to you.

This is basically you, look at the absolute state of your TDS in the mirror.



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[Maru]

What do you Americans know about Kamala's running mate and stolen valor?

Is it in the news over there?

(These are all TV channels and one major local newspaper (The Chronicle))

What to know about Gov. Tim Walz's military record and Sen. JD Vance's accusations of 'stolen valor'
https://abc13.com/post/what-know-walzs-military-record-vances-accusations-stolen-valor/15156435/

Here's a look at questions about Tim Walz's military record
https://www.chron.com/news/politics/article/walz-s-military-record-under-scrutiny-as-vance-19628549.php

Texas Republicans want to paint Tim Walz as a radical leftist. Is he?
https://www.chron.com/politics/article/tim-walz-texas-communist-19625695.php

Here's a look at questions about Tim Walz's military record
https://www.click2houston.com/news/politics/2024/08/08/walzs-military-record-under-scrutiny-as-vance-gop-question-his-service/

Harris selects Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz as running mate, aiming to add Midwest muscle to ticket
https://www.fox26houston.com/news/harris-selects-minnesota-gov-tim-walz-running-mate-aiming-add-midwest-muscle-ticket

Who is Tim Walz, Kamala Harris' running mate?
https://www.khou.com/article/news/nation-world/who-is-tim-walz-vp-pick/507-446bd460-4108-4d07-ac91-7638e40560e2

Nobody knows him really and that much is obvious. I've never heard of him before he was picked. YT's algo is dumping local media coverage about him into my feed with glowing reviews where he is known and my political media viewing is very light compared to some. For news, I watch a lot of legal cases, infrastructure and weather-related media among other things. I do tend to watch a ton of local news clips from different sources when trying to follow things so it could be why it gets put in my Recommends... anyway...

The reality is most people will probably learn these things for the first time during the VP debates, which I'm sure they're all preparing for. Usually the VP pic isn't so critical to an election, but with two very undesirable candidates, it's possible it could help sway the vote a direction with moderates/Independents. So in getting in early any big gaffes, it's only to their benefit because there's next to little national recognition for him and so a lot can leave a bad first impression. On the other hand, it could completely backfire since there's already a lot of nastiness in this race and it could very well turn off that block off to their main candidate.

If Vance is a Marine, it makes a lot of sense (to me) why he would take the misleading comments about serving with a gun more personally, and people who understand that will relate those comments to his own experience. I would expect someone's arguments about gun control or lack thereof to be more relevant if they're coming from someone who has weapons fired at them or have had to make split second decisions regarding personal safety... not someone who just simply "carries". We can all do that legally thanks to the Second Amendment, that's a basic right... so being like "well I handled a gun while in the military", but not actually being in direct combat... that's kind of a nothingburger to the average American, especially a typical gunowner.

I didn't think she chose badly as far as his overall credentials and he's added more experience to her campaign. Like most things in the US, there's different "flavors" of each politics depending on what zone they are from and he's able to connect on a personal level with "blue dog" Democrats despite some of his recent leanings and actions on things. Some may appreciate that he is open minded overall if they're not partisan on the bigger issues (like abortion). But those people would never vote for Kamala anyway...

[GoldHeart]

We know, you've been telling us for nearly ten years. Look here what it's done to you.

This is basically you, look at the absolute state of your TDS in the mirror.



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Since when was O 'donnel ever a fan of Trump anyway, didn't he insult her & call her a "pig' or something back in 2016 ?...in one of his many angry orange moments ?. :shrug:

[Alf]

(These are all TV channels and one major local newspaper (The Chronicle))

What to know about Gov. Tim Walz's military record and Sen. JD Vance's accusations of 'stolen valor'
https://abc13.com/post/what-know-walzs-military-record-vances-accusations-stolen-valor/15156435/

Here's a look at questions about Tim Walz's military record
https://www.chron.com/news/politics/article/walz-s-military-record-under-scrutiny-as-vance-19628549.php

Texas Republicans want to paint Tim Walz as a radical leftist. Is he?
https://www.chron.com/politics/article/tim-walz-texas-communist-19625695.php

Here's a look at questions about Tim Walz's military record
https://www.click2houston.com/news/politics/2024/08/08/walzs-military-record-under-scrutiny-as-vance-gop-question-his-service/

Harris selects Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz as running mate, aiming to add Midwest muscle to ticket
https://www.fox26houston.com/news/harris-selects-minnesota-gov-tim-walz-running-mate-aiming-add-midwest-muscle-ticket

Who is Tim Walz, Kamala Harris' running mate?
https://www.khou.com/article/news/nation-world/who-is-tim-walz-vp-pick/507-446bd460-4108-4d07-ac91-7638e40560e2

Nobody knows him really and that much is obvious. I've never heard of him before he was picked. YT's algo is dumping local media coverage about him into my feed with glowing reviews where he is known and my political media viewing is very light compared to some. For news, I watch a lot of legal cases, infrastructure and weather-related media among other things. I do tend to watch a ton of local news clips from different sources when trying to follow things so it could be why it gets put in my Recommends... anyway...

The reality is most people will probably learn these things for the first time during the VP debates, which I'm sure they're all preparing for. Usually the VP pic isn't so critical to an election, but with two very undesirable candidates, it's possible it could help sway the vote a direction with moderates/Independents. So in getting in early any big gaffes, it's only to their benefit because there's next to little national recognition for him and so a lot can leave a bad first impression. On the other hand, it could completely backfire since there's already a lot of nastiness in this race and it could very well turn off that block off to their main candidate.

If Vance is a Marine, it makes a lot of sense (to me) why he would take the misleading comments about serving with a gun more personally, and people who understand that will relate those comments to his own experience. I would expect someone's arguments about gun control or lack thereof to be more relevant if they're coming from someone who has weapons fired at them or have had to make split second decisions regarding personal safety... not someone who just simply "carries". We can all do that legally thanks to the Second Amendment, that's a basic right... so being like "well I handled a gun while in the military", but not actually being in direct combat... that's kind of a nothingburger to the average American, especially a typical gunowner.

I didn't think she chose badly as far as his overall credentials and he's added more experience to her campaign. Like most things in the US, there's different "flavors" of each politics depending on what zone they are from and he's able to connect on a personal level with "blue dog" Democrats despite some of his recent leanings and actions on things. Some may appreciate that he is open minded overall if they're not partisan on the bigger issues (like abortion). But those people would never vote for Kamala anyway...The MAGA republicans seemed to be delighted with this choice. He's not even from a swing state, right?

[Alf]

Get em' Donnie


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[Liam-]

https://twitter.com/kamalahq/status/1821601085213053248?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

The architects of Trump’s agenda just keep throwing him under the bus

[joeysteele]

We know, you've been telling us for nearly ten years. Look here what it's done to you.

This is basically you, look at the absolute state of your TDS in the mirror.



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.... and I'll be saying it still for years to come if,(all powers that be forbid), he wins this time.
Never needing your permission to moan about him either on here.

[Alf]

I'll just post this one for the clued-in people who can understand what they're talking about here.

On a side note, Rossane Barr is 9 years older than Rosie o'Donnell. You could never tell. But that's what nasty, bitterness in your heart does to you. In makes you ugly on the inside and out.



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[arista]

Tim Walz now getting tangled in Lies



This is Typical of Democrats in the USA
to Big him up as a Fighting man in Iraq?

But he stayed in Italy in 2007
and then dropped out.
CNN HD and MSNBC
both pointing out it looks stupid to Lie.

JD Vance - Trumps number 2
is waiting for a debate with this Fat Walz.

[bots]

Tim Walz now getting tangled in Lies



This is Typical of Democrats in the USA
to Big him up as a Fighting man in Iraq?

But he stayed in Italy in 2007
and then dropped out.
CNN HD and MSNBC
both pointing out it looks stupid to Lie.

JD Vance - Trumps number 2
is waiting for a debate with this Fat Walz.

you fall for misinformation to easily. He served for 24 years, 4 years longer than his commission. Vance was a nobody in the forces. Get your facts correct Arista

[arista]

you fall for misinformation to easily. He served for 24 years, 4 years longer than his commission. Vance was a nobody in the forces. Get your facts correct Arista

Serving

but not Fighting,


CNN and MSNBC

[joeysteele]

you fall for misinformation to easily. He served for 24 years, 4 years longer than his commission. Vance was a nobody in the forces. Get your facts correct Arista

Misinformation and selective presentation of issues and statements are making it very hard to know what to believe.

Even on here now.

That's very worrying indeed, the race to put a story,( which is getting worse), without being sure it's all or in part true is wrong.
News is important, however wrong news, no matter how much of it is suspect or wrong is dangerous.

A lie spread even just once on any public social media outlet, in my view should be considered a crime too.
Because it can help create chaos and even endanger life.
As has been seen with the current rioting in the UK.

[bots]

Serving

but not Fighting,


CNN and MSNBC

check your facts Arista

Also

After graduating from Middletown High School, Vance joined the US Marine Corps, where he served from 2003 to 2007 as a combat correspondent in a non-combative role, including a six-month deployment in the public affairs department in Iraq


So no combat there

[Ammi]

…when there is very little positive to say about your own choice of VP…try to tear the other one down…?…sounds very Trumpish…

[arista]

Sure
But both CNN HD and MSNBC HD

are having a go at him.

[joeysteele]

…when there is very little positive to say about your own choice of VP…try to tear the other one down…?…sounds very Trumpish…

It does indeed I agree obviously.

[arista]

Harris has agreed to Debate Trump on the 10 of Sept. Tuesday.
on ABCnewsHD


But no agreement on the FoxNewsHD debate


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy54l4x7d71o

[Liam-]

No Arista, Trump finally agree to do it, Harris was always going to show up to the debate whether Trump was there or not because he kept chickening out

[arista]

No Arista, Trump finally agree to do it, Harris was always going to show up to the debate whether Trump was there or not because he kept chickening out


He has now agreed the 10th of Sept

[user104658]

I normally wouldn't tune in for televised bullying of the elderly, but this one might be worth a peep.

[bots]

the reason Trump agreed to do the debate was because the third most popular tag on truth social was #trumpisacoward :laugh:

[bots]

wY_9iQlXm-4

[user104658]

the reason Trump agreed to do the debate was because the third most popular tag on truth social was #trumpisacoward :laugh:

The thing is there are certain keystones to his popularity and the idea that he's scared to debate someone or wouldn't "hand their arse to them lol lol" in a debate is a big one. The most hardcore Trumpers are in it because they're obsessed with the idea that it's all going to be OK because when "daddy gets home" he's going to save the world.

That illusion is shattered if he won't show his face.

[Ammi]

…The Prosecutor versus The Felon….sounds like a WWF wrestling event…

[bots]

vnP_xqCvtJ0

[user104658]

Hold on, he's coming.


God has saved us once, I believe he can do it again.

The most hardcore Trumpers are in it because they're obsessed with the idea that it's all going to be OK because when "daddy gets home" he's going to save the world.


... Lol

[arista]

BBC News Text:
[The results of an opinion poll that
suggests Kamala Harris is ahead of Donald Trump
when it comes to economic affairs.
The FT says this is the first poll to put Ms Harris
ahead on the economy.

It finds Americans "overwhelmingly" cite inflation
as their biggest concern, and that underlying
unease over high inflation could yet benefit Trump.]



https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/fc6d/live/0a717460-5820-11ef-aebc-6de4d31bf5cd.jpg.webp

[bots]

YCugUl4rXno

[Ammi]

…Kamala’s laugh is so joyful…:laugh:…

[arista]

…Kamala’s laugh is so joyful…:laugh:…

Never mind that.


She is now refusing to do a One on One Interview.


What the hell are they scared of
Ammi?


She can use Left Winger Interviews
it does not matter.


There is a Stink.


She Ain't no Obama
he was real clever he went on FoxNewsHD

[bots]

Never mind that.


She is now refusing to do a One on One Interview.


What the hell are they scared of
Ammi?


She can use Left Winger Interviews
it does not matter.


There is a Stink.


She Ain't no Obama
he was real clever he went on FoxNewsHD

She is not refusing to do anything, get your facts right Arista, She has a schedule fully booked until the dem convention is completed. She doesn't pander to what Trump thinks is right or wrong

[Ammi]

https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/ddc/277/ef04f34794900ccffb9444ad946c66886c-time-cover.2x.rhorizontal.w700.png

[user104658]

She is not refusing to do anything, get your facts right Arista, She has a schedule fully booked until the dem convention is completed. She doesn't pander to what Trump thinks is right or wrong

Bending to Trump's timetable would be a show of weakness if anything.

[arista]

https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/ddc/277/ef04f34794900ccffb9444ad946c66886c-time-cover.2x.rhorizontal.w700.png


Yes Predictable

But why avoid a proper one-on-one interview?

[bots]

Yes Predictable

But why avoid a proper one-on-one interview?

She is not avoiding it. She is doing everything for the best success of her campaign. There are 3 months yet for her to do one on one interviews. She is on the rise, and while she has that momentum she will continue as she is doing. Trump is only trying to shake it up now because he is, at the moment, falling behind.

I am sure there will be plenty twists and turns yet to come in this election

[arista]

"She is not avoiding it."

Pathetic one liners she gives
they all clapp her.

She must do a One-On-One interview,
CNN HD USA stated that.

Not Trump

[bots]

"She is not avoiding it."

Pathetic one liners she gives
they all clapp her.

She must do a One-On-One interview,
CNN HD USA stated that.

Not Trump

you don't like her , thats fine, but millions do

[arista]

On the Sept. 2022


Harris was in South Korea
at the border with North Korea.

Live on USA TV news
she said the United States shares
a Very Important Alliance with
of the Republic of North Korea.

It is an enduring alliance.


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/09/29/13/62925909-11262377-image-a-1_1664455563423.jpg

She was speaking alone
not one helping her.

[arista]

you don't like her , thats fine, but millions do


You are So wrong


I do not know her

[Maru]

Tulsi Gabbard coming out hard against Kamala Harris. I can see why the Democrats never took a liking to her :laugh:

nr_NZR_5hXg

Edit: I like how her audience gets so excited like they can actually vote for her

[arista]

Yes,
Good on Tulsi Gabbard.


Harris needs a one on one interview


Or she looks fake

[letmein]

Yes,
Good on Tulsi Gabbard.


Harris needs a one on one interview


Or she looks fake

Go back to sleep. Focus on the mess going on in your own country. You know nothing about American politics.

[user104658]

Negative-campaigning these days is ridiculous, no wonder everyone is miserable. There's never any sense of "This great country will always be great -- but here's the amazing things I'm going to do for you if you vote for me."

It's just "Well nothing is going to actually be good obviously but vote for me 'cos MY OPPONENT IS A THREAT TO DEMOCRACY AND THE VERY THREADS OF EXISTENCE!!!!"

[arista]

Tomorrow they drag out Hilary Clinton
With Pathetic Biden Live in Chicago

Woman with no substance Harris is live on Thursday.


Ref: Inside Politics
CNN HD USA on UK TV Live

[arista]

Harris Key words "We Are Not Going Back"


Old Biden is on Monday,
they want him gone by the Tuesday events.
he is now the past


Democratic National Convention Live in Chicago
Monday - Thursday

[bots]

Arista cups Trumps balls and licks up all his bullshit

[arista]

Arista cups Trumps balls and licks up all his bullshit


Just CNN HD Live
does a good Inside Politics


CNN Numbers
270 needed to Win


At this time
Harris is projected to have 225

Trump is projected to have 219



Early days

[arista]

They are saying her first interview
is still not set up.

When that happens
all can change.

[arista]

Now CNN HD USA on UK TV
State of the Union

Live from the DNC (Democratic National Convention)

Of course, it is Empty
as it starts on Monday.

[arista]

[JD Vance and Tim Walz agree on 1 October Tuesday
VP debate]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4ge0ggk28lo

[Gusto Brunt]

I think Trump's close brush with death is affecting him. His recent speech was a bit of a crazy rant. Quite frankly gibberish.

He should NOT have told Biden he must step down from the campaign because Trump is looking all of his 78 years now.

Compared to Harris who is soon to be 60 but could pass for a 47 year old. :D A very attractive lady. But of course we can't say that any more.:nono:

But I just did. :p

[arista]

Live in Chicago DNC
Hilary Clinton is saluting Joe Biden

She has a Microphone,
but is shouting

SkyNewsHD
BBCnewsHD


Not on LBC.

[Maru]

I don't know that this impacts Kamala all that much, but it would've certainly have impacted Biden if he were still in:

fUbUMBjoRsM


More related to Kamala. I don't use Google, not even for Adwords, so I don't even know their ads work anymore:
eq9N-HZcmzo

[arista]

Old Biden now Live

He keeps putting a Hankey to his nose



Good on LBC radio
saying how silly he is just standing there


Now he is talking
but is the same talk he has been doing the last year

[user104658]

I don't know that this impacts Kamala all that much, but it would've certainly have impacted Biden if he were still in:

fUbUMBjoRsM


More related to Kamala. I don't use Google, not even for Adwords, so I don't even know their ads work anymore:
eq9N-HZcmzo

Thank goodness Trump hasn't used and abused US politics to benefit and make money for himself or his family.


... ... ... ... .. .... ... ... .... . .. ... :hee:.......

[arista]

Good on Pete Buttigieg
(United States Secretary of Transportation)

Take's the time to go on FoxNewsHD Live in Chicago
Giving full details of his plans

Unlike Harris who says she will not go on that channel.

[Gusto Brunt]

What the heck was Biden on last night. He didn't fluff a word. And his eyes, were so blue.

A part of me thought it wasn't Biden, but an android. :D :p

[Maru]

What the heck was Biden on last night. He didn't fluff a word. And his eyes, were so blue.

A part of me thought it wasn't Biden, but an android. :D :p

At this point I'm just hoping he enjoys his retirement and goes away quietly.

[bots]

I think my Day 1 moment from the DNC was Nancy Pelosi holding up a "we love you Joe" sign during his speech :laugh:

[bots]

Michelle knocked it out of the park and Barack's small dick reference was priceless :laugh:

[Ammi]

…I’ve only watched a tiny snippet of Michelle but she’s a great public speaker…

[arista]

Dirty Bill Clinton
now Live in Chicago

SkyNewsHD
BBCnewsHD

[Alf]

…I’ve only watched a tiny snippet of Michelle but she’s a great public speaker…Plain, in your face lying. But you don't care.


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[Maru]

Michelle knocked it out of the park and Barack's small dick reference was priceless :laugh:

I read your comment before seeing snippets and caught this reference. The irony of that, is shortly after I saw that clip, Michelle then mentions about Kamala and Tim Walz "packing arenas". It clearly matters to both parties. Far too much, imo.

Edit: In fact, thinking now, it definitely mattered during Obama's campaign. That was one of the features of his run and he and the media became quite accustomed to these receptions. "Look at the crowds he draws! And they hang onto everything he says!". Had it not been for that phenomenon, the Democrat machine would've looked him over, which was still a major possibility then seeing how incestuous these parties are. So I think, this trend of politicians running as Rockstars really went into full swing with him. The public saw they could take literal nobodies, anoint them with an untouchable image, and then pressure the media to cover them.

Trump was the anti-Obama (birtherism), but I think in reality he was both impressed by and relished Obama's self-made status and seeked to emulate it. He was infamous for his Twitter retorts back then and the Presidential ticket was always a thing he mentioned. I still remember when he argued rather publicly with then-CEO of T-mobile because John Legere was ranting about the problem of his hotels, whereas Trump hit back about their terrible cell coverage (funny). I seem to remember John saw he wanted to run for President and made fun of him for it (also funny). His campaign started not too long after that spat when it still seemed a long shot. But I remember that theme of his desire to go for the President, in his tweets back then. I think he relishes the public's adoration.

Before 2016, Donald Trump had a history of toying with a presidential run
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/2016-donald-trump-history-toying-presidential-run

Donald Trump and T-Mobile's Legere in delightful Twitter fight
https://www.cnet.com/culture/donald-trump-and-t-mobiles-legere-in-delightful-twitter-fight/

[bots]

I read your comment before seeing snippets and caught this reference. The irony of that, is shortly after I saw that clip, Michelle then mentions about Kamala and Tim Walz "packing arenas". It clearly matters to both parties. Far too much, imo.

Edit: In fact, thinking now, it definitely mattered during Obama's campaign. That was one of the features of his run and he and the media became quite accustomed to these receptions. "Look at the crowds he draws! And they hang onto everything he says!". Had it not been for that phenomenon, the Democrat machine would've looked him over, which was still a major possibility then seeing how incestuous these parties are. So I think, this trend of politicians running as Rockstars really went into full swing with him. The public saw they could take literal nobodies, anoint them with an untouchable image, and then pressure the media to cover them.

Trump was the anti-Obama (birtherism), but I think in reality he was both impressed by and relished Obama's self-made status and seeked to emulate it. He was infamous for his Twitter retorts back then and the Presidential ticket was always a thing he mentioned. I still remember when he argued rather publicly with then-CEO of T-mobile because John Legere was ranting about the problem of his hotels, whereas Trump hit back about their terrible cell coverage (funny). I seem to remember John saw he wanted to run for President and made fun of him for it (also funny). His campaign started not too long after that spat when it still seemed a long shot. But I remember that theme of his desire to go for the President, in his tweets back then. I think he relishes the public's adoration.

Before 2016, Donald Trump had a history of toying with a presidential run
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/2016-donald-trump-history-toying-presidential-run

Donald Trump and T-Mobile's Legere in delightful Twitter fight
https://www.cnet.com/culture/donald-trump-and-t-mobiles-legere-in-delightful-twitter-fight/

i think whoever is doing these type of things wants to pack arenas out, but Trump does appear to care more about it than most by suggesting the Harris crowds were AI generated and making up excuses why he wasn't getting the crowds or flat out lying about it :laugh:

The simple reality is that they both have a similar number of supporters so comparing crowd sizes is almost completely irrelevant :laugh:

[Glenn.]

Plain, in your face lying. But you don't care.


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https://projects.thestar.com/donald-trump-fact-check/

[Ammi]

…the crowd sizes are completely irrelevant as well because it just all becomes part of the ‘presidential campaign race’ game they play…mine’s bigger than yours, no mine is…yours only appears bigger because it isn’t real/yes it is/no it isn’t…lol, lol, lol….

…the only thing that’s relevant is who will win that race and sit in the big White House chair and I don’t think in the U.K. that we ever have such a clear view of that…Campaign rallies and their attendance vary so much because every state is like a separate country size for us so it’s hard for us to equate our own politics on the run up to elections etc…

[bots]

the american political system is fascinating when federal and states are all lumped together.

[Gusto Brunt]

Walz is only 60 but looks about 85.

Ageism isn't right but in politics how you look and present yourself is very important.

Why did Harris pick him? He's not even good at speeches.

[user104658]

…the crowd sizes are completely irrelevant as well because it just all becomes part of the ‘presidential campaign race’ game they play…mine’s bigger than yours, no mine is…yours only appears bigger because it isn’t real/yes it is/no it isn’t…lol, lol, lol….

…the only thing that’s relevant is who will win that race and sit in the big White House chair and I don’t think in the U.K. that we ever have such a clear view of that…Campaign rallies and their attendance vary so much because every state is like a separate country size for us so it’s hard for us to equate our own politics on the run up to elections etc…

The crowd sizes only show who can draw a crowd... which really has nothing to do with voter intention. The vast majority of voters aren't in any "crowd".

Nigel Farage can draw a crowd. It's just because the type of people who are politically interested in someone like Nigel Farage are the sort of rabble who will go out and see him in person. At the end of the day, Farage drawing a bigger crowd than someone like Sunak or Starmer doesn't mean real voters are going to vote Reform over Labour or Tory, as we have seen. People still think it matters, though, for some reason, and I guess it does, but only for virality and marketing to casual voters.

The US is slightly different because the presidential elections are so binary - it's one or t'other and they tend to be very 50/50 at all times, so Trump being able to draw a big crowd genuinely means nothing... no one is disputing that a lot of people are voting Trump.

It's the same old point; you have to remember that "many" and "most" are not the same thing.

[Oliver_W]

Maybe I'm just jaded and overly cynical, but everyone (shown in the Sky News coverage) seems so slimey and sleazy. "Even" the Obamas.

(And no, talking negatively about the Dems isn't the same as talking up the Reps. Only one of them are currently splurged all over the news.)

[arista]

Harris should do her First Live Interview on CNN HD
that will show us the real Harris

[Alf]

https://projects.thestar.com/donald-trump-fact-check/You show me an opinion piece of someone who likely hates Trump.

I show you Michelle Obama, lying to your face on video.

She doesn't care that she lies to you, she knows she can because you'll just accept it. You're feelings over facts people.

[Gusto Brunt]

Harris should do her First Live Interview on CNN HD
that will show us the real Harris

Apparently she's gone down in the polls.

[arista]

Apparently she's gone down in the polls.


She must do a proper interview
away from all her crowds


She has not said enough , yet

[James]

The UK bookmakers' odds are pretty much 50-50.

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us-politics/us-presidential-election/winner

[Glenn.]

You show me an opinion piece of someone who likely hates Trump.

I show you Michelle Obama, lying to your face on video.

She doesn't care that she lies to you, she knows she can because you'll just accept it. Your feelings over facts people.

You have zero self awareness

[Alf]

You have zero self awarenessYour reply should have been something like..

"That's awful by Michelle Obama, why would she lie like that? I don't trust her anymore"

[bots]

People forget that the polls at the last election had Biden ahead by double digits and it ended up being a lot closer than that, so while polls may show a trend, they also mean absolutely nothing over there :laugh:

[Gusto Brunt]

She must do a proper interview
away from all her crowds


She has not said enough , yet

I know I am going against the grain here but despite the criticism she gets I do think she'd be a good President.

Maybe I am being sexist but I think she will bring a softer side to the job, and that she'll be able to butter up hard nosed leaders of the world with her laugh :joker: and charm.:nono:

A safer world.:hee:

[bots]

i'm not convinced that Trump will actually make it to the election yet. He is old, and i don't think he is particularly well. It just feels that there are more twists and turns ahead before election day

[Alf]

Lie, lie again and when you can't lie no more, blame Donald Trump.

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[Alf]

July "The economy is great under Biden"

August "Kamala is going to fix the economy"


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[arista]

Yes New High Tax on Small businesses of 28%
is her dumb plan


Debate last night on Ch4HDnews
Live in Chicago

[Alf]

The MSM have been given their candidate, and they're all reading from the same script.

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[letmein]

You have zero self awareness

Remember, Republicans call them “alternative facts”. :hehe:

[letmein]

i'm not convinced that Trump will actually make it to the election yet. He is old, and i don't think he is particularly well. It just feels that there are more twists and turns ahead before election day

Trump is a convicted felon. He’s also too damn old to be running for president. He looks like death and is barely coherent. Democrats did the right thing dropping Biden. Republicans have no self-awareness.

[Maru]

…the crowd sizes are completely irrelevant as well because it just all becomes part of the ‘presidential campaign race’ game they play…mine’s bigger than yours, no mine is…yours only appears bigger because it isn’t real/yes it is/no it isn’t…lol, lol, lol….

…the only thing that’s relevant is who will win that race and sit in the big White House chair and I don’t think in the U.K. that we ever have such a clear view of that…Campaign rallies and their attendance vary so much because every state is like a separate country size for us so it’s hard for us to equate our own politics on the run up to elections etc…

It really means nothing to us either, because our political and geographical makeup is too diverse. The camera pans with the crowds has the effect of helping to organize propaganda around those candidates, which is expected.

Our demographics are also shifting due to increased movement between the States due to economic and sociopolitical factors (mainly policy) that it's shifting quite a bit even within 5 years time. COVID also played a part in moving people further away from the cities. National media can't portray the US accurately now, even if it wants to. So it's going to be slanted coverage no matter what, because to give a sense of authority, they have to least pretend they're connected to the country they're covering :laugh: It helps if they can convince themselves this is still possible...


Re:Polls water it down to a simpler measurement, but it's not conducive to an accurate description as to the dialogue of an entire country. It does give a surface view, but there's just so many factors. I still think it's fine to rely on it for an overall view, though. They capture the sentiment of the moment relatively well, as long as one doesn't read too deeply into it.

/nerd

i think whoever is doing these type of things wants to pack arenas out, but Trump does appear to care more about it than most by suggesting the Harris crowds were AI generated and making up excuses why he wasn't getting the crowds or flat out lying about it :laugh:

The simple reality is that they both have a similar number of supporters so comparing crowd sizes is almost completely irrelevant :laugh:

She wasn't voted in it properly, so we can't say what her support is yet. They're clearly pushing her hard because they're nervous about her reception. She's running as a Democratic anti-Trump ticket, at best. (Which is fine, it's better than running a dementia-riddled candidate). We don't know her true appeal. We may not know that if and after she gets elected.

I don't disagree they can draw similar crowds. It comes down to who wants to actually appear for these things and where they do them :laugh: From what I listen to in my own time, it sounds like these rallies can be like a social gathering, that is, people go to meet people who share similar values to them and just enjoy being near the energy of that candidate... some people go to find out for themselves what it's all about also. I'd considered going in the past when Obama was campaigning. Now I'm too concerned with personal safety. But I'm very conscientious. :laugh:

[UserSince2005]

Interesting seeing Obama making small dick jokes at trumps expense.
Classy
But wouldn’t expect anything less from a man with such little morals
A complete fake

[bots]

It really means nothing to us either, because our political and geographical makeup is too diverse. The camera pans with the crowds has the effect of helping to organize propaganda around those candidates, which is expected.

Our demographics are also shifting due to increased movement between the States due to economic and sociopolitical factors (mainly policy) that it's shifting quite a bit even within 5 years time. COVID also played a part in moving people further away from the cities. National media can't portray the US accurately now, even if it wants to. So it's going to be slanted coverage no matter what, because to give a sense of authority, they have to least pretend they're connected to the country they're covering :laugh: It helps if they can convince themselves this is still possible...


Re:Polls water it down to a simpler measurement, but it's not conducive to an accurate description as to the dialogue of an entire country. It does give a surface view, but there's just so many factors. I still think it's fine to rely on it for an overall view, though. They capture the sentiment of the moment relatively well, as long as one doesn't read too deeply into it.

/nerd



She wasn't voted in it properly, so we can't say what her support is yet. They're clearly pushing her hard because they're nervous about her reception. She's running as a Democratic anti-Trump ticket, at best. (Which is fine, it's better than running a dementia-riddled candidate). We don't know her true appeal. We may not know that if and after she gets elected.

I don't disagree they can draw similar crowds. It comes down to who wants to actually appear for these things and where they do them :laugh: From what I listen to in my own time, it sounds like these rallies can be like a social gathering, that is, people go to meet people who share similar values to them and just enjoy being near the energy of that candidate... some people go to find out for themselves what it's all about also. I'd considered going in the past when Obama was campaigning. Now I'm too concerned with personal safety. But I'm very conscientious. :laugh:

if our politicians tried to do similar events here they would be laughed at, so it's all a bit alien to me. It's my (maybe simplistic) impression that americans like to be in tribes. Like there is a gays for trump group, a white men for Harris group ..... i think that is sooooooo weird :laugh:

[arista]

Last Day of DNC


Harris talks

[Maru]

if our politicians tried to do similar events here they would be laughed at, so it's all a bit alien to me. It's my (maybe simplistic) impression that americans like to be in tribes. Like there is a gays for trump group, a white men for Harris group ..... i think that is sooooooo weird :laugh:

You're not too far off. I would say we're more like a "hive", but a very competitive hive of hyper-individualists (is that a contradiction? yes). Americans compete over everything. Our neighbors were lowkey competing on Nextdoor as to who got power back faster post-hurricane. Everyone who got it last was certainly noted and then it turned into who had it out the longest. :laugh: There always has to be a "more than". Even if it's losing at something, we have to place on the leaderboard somewhere :laugh: It's petty, but it comes naturally to us.

A thought I removed from my post, to keep it short, is it's worth noting we had been conditioned for the longest time to follow media. So much so, it was the method as to which we connected to the general cultural temperament. It's obviously not as effective as now as our individual experiences diversity and social life is more and more fragmented. We're not sharing the same experiences in media we used to, so it can seem like we don't even share the same interest anymore. But it's a habit which is difficult to lose because of the ubiquity of media in American life for the past 50+ years. It was considered to be for the longest time, the closest we could get to having a national conversation without sharing the same geography.

In some sense the hurrah around the candidates is because deep down people do want to get back to that close connection as a country ASAP. The Democrat messaging is effective for this because it advertises itself as a way to satisfy this need the fastest as it's a low bar, and it's something that the anti-Progressives often miss entirely. "Vote for me and you'll finding belonging because we're ALL going there/this way". Except we won't. It'll be another shitty 50/50 result :laugh: I get the Hollywood-ffication of politics is dreadful, to say the least, but it's rooted in a really old ideal we still hold dear but the benefits of it have all but been lost to societal noise. Edit: And if it all this sounds like we're really easy to manipulate. The answer is "yes".

Edit: Corrections post-distractions

[bots]

Kamala delivered a pitch perfect, bloody amazing speech

[arista]

Kamala delivered a pitch perfect, bloody amazing speech

Yes, soon on a Live Debate
with Trump.

And a Proper one-on-one interview
without a preaching tone

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVkx8eBXIAARBzq?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVivsF9XAAAwI7U?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVkcswmXIAAiFSW?format=jpg&name=small

[Sticks]

Now the women of America will mobilise, just like they do in Big brother when a gorgeous hunk of a guy goes up for eviction of a brazen hussy girl, and they vote to save the hunk!!!

Women hate other women, as Big Brother voting showed

The women of America are now lining up to vote for that gorgeous hunk of a man, TRUMP to save him from that evil Brazen Hussey of a B***H, Karmala

TRUMP WILL WIN

Unless like in 2020, when Trump actually won, the UNDemocratic Party steals the election again.

SAVE TRUMP FROM THE HUSSEY!!!!!

[arista]

Now the women of America will mobilise, just like they do in Big brother when a gorgeous hunk of a guy goes up for eviction of a brazen hussy girl, and they vote to save the hunk!!!

Women hate other women, as Big Brother voting showed

The women of America are now lining up to vote for that gorgeous hunk of a man, TRUMP to save him from that evil Brazen Hussey of a B***H, Karmala

TRUMP WILL WIN

Unless like in 2020, when Trump actually won, the UNDemocratic Party steals the election again.

SAVE TRUMP FROM THE HUSSEY!!!!!


Many are saying Harris will Win.

[Ammi]

Kamala delivered a pitch perfect, bloody amazing speech

…this is all I’ve seen atm but I’ll try to catch the whole thing later…Kamala sounding good in this bitesize bit, though….


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[Ammi]

Ctq53YPkrF4

[arista]

No Ammi
Slick Edits not helping.

Harris needs a one on one interview

Trump has done loads

[Ammi]

…it’s coming, Arista…you’ll have your one on one very soon…

[arista]

…it’s coming, Arista…you’ll have your one on one very soon…


Please post the date

[Ammi]

Please post the date

…oh I thought that it had been posted in one of the threads, that a one to one debate had been scheduled for September…obviously not, then…I misunderstood or misread…

[arista]

Harris Vs Trump

Live 10th Sept CNN HD worldwide

Is all we have.

[Liam-]

Kamala delivered a pitch perfect, bloody amazing speech

Watched it live and for 40 minutes I felt like an American, she knocked it out of the park on all fronts

[Alf]

Watched it live and for 40 minutes I felt like an American, she knocked it out of the park on all frontsShe was awful.

She just gave an autobiography of her life. That she comes from a poor background.

And she cares about things, like, no body else does?

She's gonna make America better, well she's been the VP for the past 4 years, she's been part of making it worse.

Who cares love, what are your policies?

[bots]

i thought an absolutely brilliant moment was when Kamala's little nieces taught everyone how to say Kamala's name. Let's see maga get her name wrong now after being taught by a couple of little kids :laugh:

[Alf]

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You've been in office for the past four years, petal. Where you helped destroy the great economy that the Donald built.

[Glenn.]

I love that the felon is going to be beaten by a black woman.

[Alf]

I love that the felon is going to be beaten by a black woman.Well of course you do. The colour of a person's skin is the single most important thing for a racist. That's what racism is, judging a person by their ethnicity.

[Glenn.]

The trumpies are so easily triggered :joker:

I can’t wait to see the racist trump supporters lose their **** when she beats him

[Alf]

The trumpies are so easily triggered :joker:

I can’t wait to see the racist trump supporters lose their **** when she beats himSorry for triggering you. I don't really believe you're a racist, not intentionally anyway, I just think you've been led down the wrong path. It happened to many of you. Not your fault.

[Glenn.]

They can’t even argue back intelligently. Bless

[Alf]

"I'm from the government and I'm here to help"

Vs

"Make America great again"

Team MAGA for me

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[Alf]

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[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVvNWUYX0AAKma_?format=jpg&name=medium

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVvJIeGWoAAoHB8?format=jpg&name=medium

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVvHLwRWQAAIJG2?format=jpg&name=medium

[arista]

Front page in Australia

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVsyGA0X0AABCSK?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

NYC

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVsePBRW0AAA-6h?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVpMyIuWkAAGCaM?format=jpg&name=900x900

[arista]

SF

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVp2_vcWkAEAWgl?format=jpg&name=medium

[arista]

Chicago Press

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVp5iw2W4AAdzsO?format=jpg&name=small

[Sticks]

Trump is still going to win

Karmal is a brazen hussy, that the women of America will hate as she is another women and they will vote for Trump in their droves to save that gorgeous hunk of a man from this brazen slutty hussy

You saw how it happened in Big Brother voting where the girl is always evicted over the guy. The same dynamic will play out here

Unless of course, like last time the UNDemocratic Party cheats and steals the election AGAIN!!!

[Maru]

i thought an absolutely brilliant moment was when Kamala's little nieces taught everyone how to say Kamala's name. Let's see maga get her name wrong now after being taught by a couple of little kids :laugh:

Speaking to this, among other things, it's not a good thing we have entered the phase of praising politicians for chastising the voter. We are not meant to become sycophants or serfs. It's unacceptable from any candidate for public office. Their job is to listen to the voter, to speak to the voter's concerns and nothing else. It is not for us to "be good" for them or be "taught" how to treat our leaders or even told by their crazy supporters how to speak to them. Otherwise we become subjects in our own country. I understand they are being mocked mercilessly, but guess what... they signed up for this ridiculous work. If they can't handle that, move on.

I say this knowing it'll bear no fruit, because it's become clear that the most political of our society, speaking to our citizenry, seem completely keen to become subjects. So much so they're parroting their leaders and not leaving any room for more practical perspectives to "infiltrate" their "movements". There is being competitive, sure, but then we have others that literally believe Trump was sent by God directly to "save" the country. The Democrats are a secular party, by comparison, but that doesn't make their supporters anymore immune to drinking the Koolaid.

For reference... and I quote:

Ok, so listen. It's come to my attention that there are some folks who struggle or pretend to struggle with the proper pronounciation of our future President's name.

So hear me out, confusion is understandable. Disrespect is NOT!

RqereirU0-w

[bots]

Speaking to this, among other things, it's not a good thing we have entered the phase of praising politicians for chastising the voter. We are not meant to become sycophants or serfs. It's unacceptable from any candidate for public office. Their job is to listen to the voter, to speak to the voter's concerns and nothing else. It is not for us to "be good" for them or be "taught" how to treat our leaders or even told by their crazy supporters how to speak to them. Otherwise we become subjects in our own country. I understand they are being mocked mercilessly, but guess what... they signed up for this ridiculous work. If they can't handle that, move on.

I say this knowing it'll bear no fruit, because it's become clear that the most political of our society, speaking to our citizenry, seem completely keen to become subjects. So much so they're parroting their leaders and not leaving any room for more practical perspectives to "infiltrate" their "movements". There is being competitive, sure, but then we have others that literally believe Trump was sent by God directly to "save" the country. The Democrats are a secular party, by comparison, but that doesn't make their supporters anymore immune to drinking the Koolaid.

For reference... and I quote:



RqereirU0-w

it was specifically directed at trump and his cronies for intentionally mispronouncing here name

[Maru]

it was specifically directed at trump and his cronies for intentionally mispronouncing here name

No, it was not specific.

[Alf]

Her name will be pronounced whatever the people feel like pronouncing it. And nobody will dictate otherwise in a free society.

If she is referred to as "Blow-job Queen" then so be it.

[Alf]

"Hitler, as only got one ball, the other, is in the Albert hall'

[GiRTh]

Kamalas turning the race around. Trump must be ******** himself

[bots]

The dems raised 500m in the last month and another 100m last week at the convention. From small donors

[Alf]

Kamalas turning the race around. Trump must be ******** himselfYeah, he's crapping himself at unelected. Installed Harris.

He's just come a cigarette paper to having his brains blown out. And he's straight back into business. You think he fears a nobody that is scared to debate or be interviewed?

[GiRTh]

I hope she wins. I'm still not much of a fan but there is no other alternative

[Alf]

I hope she wins. I'm still not much of a fan but there is no other alternativeOf course there's an alternative. The person that's on your side. The Donald.

The guy that's taking all the slings and arrows thrown at him for us.

[Alf]

Who knows, maybe the Donald will step aside and let Kennedy in?

[Alf]

According to Democrats, it's patriotic to burn the American flag.

While it may be free, as long as you do it safely. It's definitely not patriotic.

These people are insane. And they hate America.


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[Alf]

Meanwhile at the DNC


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[user104658]

Of course there's an alternative. The person that's on your side. The Donald.

The guy that's taking all the slings and arrows thrown at him for us.

Just culty at this point Alf.

[bots]

Alf is obviously triggered