Kamala Harris Campaign 2024

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GV0XyQcXgAErCTQ?format=jpg&name=small

[Liam-]

She’s now leading in all but one swing state poll

[bots]

Trump's angling to drop out the debate again, there's a surprise :laugh:

[Sticks]

But women hate women

The women will vote for that gorgeous hunk of a man against that brazen hussy

Unless the UNDemocrats cheat and steal the election. A lot of people on X are saying that the UNDemocrats are getting ready to cheat again and steal the election again.

[Glenn.]

Trump supporters are brain dead though, bless them

I can’t believe how embarrassing they are

[arista]

But women hate women

The women will vote for that gorgeous hunk of a man against that brazen hussy

Unless the UNDemocrats cheat and steal the election. A lot of people on X are saying that the UNDemocrats are getting ready to cheat again and steal the election again.


No Sticks,
it now looks like she could become
the first-ever Lady President.

Let's hope she is not stuck on the bog
when a War starts

[Glenn.]

Why would she be stuck on the bog?

[arista]

Why would she be stuck on the bog?


Never ask a lady that.

[Nicky91]

Trump supporters are brain dead though, bless them

I can’t believe how embarrassing they are

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that's quite accurate i guess, who else would dress up like that and storm the capitol

[Maru]

Can we just vote already.

[bots]

Can we just vote already.

there are bound to be a few twists yet to come :laugh:

[arista]

She claims she will do an interview
one on one
by the end of the month.


As she light on Policy


Ref: Debate on CNN HD USA on UK TV

[arista]

The First Interview

Harris & Walz with Dana Bash CNN HD

Thursday USA Time Eastern 9PM (I assume 2AM UK)



This is all wrong
Harris said she would do one one-on-one interview
on her own.

As she Slips up Walz
will save her......................

[Liam-]

She doesn’t need to do one on one interviews, she’s going there and talking to people face to face where she needs to, the general public don’t care if she does tv interviews or not

[Maru]

She doesn’t need to do one on one interviews, she’s going there and talking to people face to face where she needs to, the general public don’t care if she does tv interviews or not

People do care. The interviews are often considered a rite of passage, both for voter and politician, when it comes to our major elections. It's how most of us become acquainted and when we often become most comfortable casting a vote for any particular candidate... your comments only apply to folk who are already energized enough about the candidate to show up to rallies. That's very few voters and not enough to win an election. With the size of the US, or even just the nature of life, we can't simply stop what we're doing and very easily meet a politician. Even if it's desired, it's not practical.

Social media can't ever replace the connection that many of us have become accustomed to "being spoken to" on TV. It's a major memory for me, each Presidency, that we "got to know" that candidate for the first time warming up to them in an interview. When anything major happens, say 9/11, the first thing we expect right out the gate is to hear the President's address. We get so much comfort from listening to them speak when times are tough. So if she can't speak directly to the people smoothly, that's a big problem, because that's a vast majority of the association to our President, is in how we are spoken to (Note: "to the people", not "at" the people). It's very important that she can separate that distinction to keep the temperature of the country. So, I think in getting the interview right she can easily win support with undecideds who may look at her speak and go "Ok, I think *I'm* comfortable with this person running things...".

It's a much bigger deal than not. Like way beyond what you can imagine. People here associate their politics very strongly with our media connection to our leaders because it's the closest we can get with a country of this size and having this much cultural diversity.

Trump is already ahead of her in interviews and that's a problem too because any sort of "misgivings" people may have had with him, they've had more opportunities to hear him speak and to come to their own conclusions. His newer interviews have come out softer than in the past so he's presenting really well, for Trump (so far).

[bots]

i dont know why Harris is reluctant to do interviews, she can set the terms so that they are completely softball. She has a vision and policies. The only thing that is sticking out is that she doesn't want to answer questions on Biden, and how much she knew about his incapacity

[Cherie]

People do care. The interviews are often considered a rite of passage, both for voter and politician, when it comes to our major elections. It's how most of us become acquainted and when we often become most comfortable casting a vote for any particular candidate... your comments only apply to folk who are already energized enough about the candidate to show up to rallies. That's very few voters and not enough to win an election. With the size of the US, or even just the nature of life, we can't simply stop what we're doing and very easily meet a politician. Even if it's desired, it's not practical.

Social media can't ever replace the connection that many of us have become accustomed to "being spoken to" on TV. It's a major memory for me, each Presidency, that we "got to know" that candidate for the first time warming up to them in an interview. When anything major happens, say 9/11, the first thing we expect right out the gate is to hear the President's address. We get so much comfort from listening to them speak when times are tough. So if she can't speak directly to the people smoothly, that's a big problem, because that's a vast majority of the association to our President, is in how we are spoken to (Note: "to the people", not "at" the people). It's very important that she can separate that distinction to keep the temperature of the country. So, I think in getting the interview right she can easily win support with undecideds who may look at her speak and go "Ok, I think *I'm* comfortable with this person running things...".

It's a much bigger deal than not. Like way beyond what you can imagine. People here associate their politics very strongly with our media connection to our leaders because it's the closest we can get with a country of this size and having this much cultural diversity.

Trump is already ahead of her in interviews and that's a problem too because any sort of "misgivings" people may have had with him, they've had more opportunities to hear him speak and to come to their own conclusions. His newer interviews have come out softer than in the past so he's presenting really well, for Trump (so far).

what a great post Maru, and though I have very little interest in American politics its the one thing that has transferred across to our elections here in the UK, TV debates and interviews with the potential leaders, I can see how it would be more important in the US given it has been a long standing tradition, , its good to get an American living in America take on things

[arista]

It was at 2AM, CNN HD
I recorded it.

She is saying when they came into power Covid-19
had a hold on America.

Dana Bash asked her about
Fracking as she said she would ban it.
Now she she will not ban it.

That was the first 10mins or so.

[arista]

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brief Clip of it, 1mins 26
in a tweet but then poster then talks

[arista]

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36 seconds of just her.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1829303758372704256/cs62xMb-?format=jpg&name=small


How it looked

[MTVN]

How has she gone this long without doing an interview :skull: did becoming the presidential nominee in unprecedented fashion a few weeks back not warrant an interview?

[Sticks]

What do you expect from the UNDemocratic Party

[Gusto Brunt]

I saw a clip of her interview done yesterday. She's now 4 points ahead of Trump.:laugh:

I can see why she's gaining popularity. She's not stupid like everyone said she is. It's basically her personality that makes people assume if you laugh you're not intelligent. WRONG.

Look at boring Starmer. Dull - no personality, and not intelligent. :p

[arista]

Terrible soft interview
Not Live


Pre-Recorded

CNN HD let us down

[arista]

How has she gone this long without doing an interview :skull: did becoming the presidential nominee in unprecedented fashion a few weeks back not warrant an interview?


Yes,
and this was not her alone.
And not live.


Terrible soft interview


https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1829303758372704256/cs62xMb-?format=jpg&name=small

[Liam-]

Only somebody that didn’t actually watch it or is completely delusional would call that a soft interview

[arista]

Only somebody that didn’t actually watch it or is completely delusional would call that a soft interview


You are so wrong

Journalists who watched it all
said it was a Soft Interview

[bots]

it really wasn't a soft interview. They were both asked the questions that trump world wanted to be asked. What you really mean is that she answered the questions well

[arista]

Should have done it Live.
That stinks


Dana Bash is a soft interviewer


CNN HD Failed

[Liam-]

You’re exhausting

[bots]

Arista hates women, so it's really no surprise

[Sticks]

It is Very Likely
she can become President Harris,
On November the 5th 2024.

So it is important that the World can see her in a
Proper interview without Walz by her side.

No chance

All the women of America are now lining up to vote to for that gorgeous hunk of a guy, Trump to save him from that brazen hussy, another women, who all women hate, as she is another women.

Remember what Big Brother taught us, Women hate other Women

I would say Trump has it in the bag, but the UNDemocrats are expected to cheat like they did in 2020 and steal the election.

[arista]

No chance

All the women of America are now lining up to vote to for that gorgeous hunk of a guy, Trump to save him from that brazen hussy, another women, who all women hate, as she is another women.

Remember what Big Brother taught us, Women hate other Women

I would say Trump has it in the bag, but the UNDemocrats are expected to cheat like they did in 2020 and steal the election.


Sure many Women are voting Trump.

But More Younger Women are backing Harris.

Extra Police will be at the Election
to stop any fights.

[arista]

Dana pushed a question,
Walz on his Army Record.

He said he misspoke.


The whole interview was only 35mins

[Liam-]

https://twitter.com/rpsagainsttrump/status/1829508355267727870?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

This is why she shouldn’t pander to the media who think they are the most important factor in the election

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://twitter.com/rpsagainsttrump/status/1829508355267727870?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

This is why she shouldn’t pander to the media who think they are the most important factor in the election

only interview after 30 days a softball with far left CNN with babysitter false valour discredited liar side kick In case she misread autocue

:joker:

you could not make it up

[Maru]

I couldn't finish the interview when I initially saw it. Hub had the same reaction when watching on his own. We watched lighter coverage later on. Now I'm listening to it with some commentary to see if I can actually get through it. Funny enough, I think they're watching a version with much less of the VP. I'm not sure if that means CNN is uploading clips with less of him intervening, but it's interesting that I noted I find it much more watchable without him chiming in. I did not understand what he added. "Oh, I agree with everything she said just now! (repeats things) We share the same values!" (big smiles from Kamala) That was so pointless. She should've just done it alone, imo, and even if she bombed it a bit, it could easily be blamed on nervousness in some part if she can make up with better interviews and answering questions more directly. It would've been good for getting her to the debates to hash out all her weak points now and not wait until she's in front of Trump.

[bots]

After the gop convention Trump and Vance did an interview together. It's pretty standard after the convention

[Alf]

Where on God's Green Earth is the current so called President, Biden. Is he still sleeping on the beach?

[Crimson Dynamo]

[QUOTE=Alf;11500445]Where on God's Green Earth is the current so called President, Biden. Is he still sleeping on the beach?[/QUO

Chilling

[Kate!]

Harris is not strong enough to be President. Much as I am not overly fond of Trump, he knows what he's doing.

[Maru]

After the gop convention Trump and Vance did an interview together. It's pretty standard after the convention

Trump's not being introduced to the people for the first time. It's not standard for candidates to be introduced as a pair. Trump was introducing his VP, whereas Trump had been running "as Trump" for quite some time before then.

[Alf]

No chance

All the women of America are now lining up to vote to for that gorgeous hunk of a guy, Trump to save him from that brazen hussy, another women, who all women hate, as she is another women.

Remember what Big Brother taught us, Women hate other Women

I would say Trump has it in the bag, but the UNDemocrats are expected to cheat like they did in 2020 and steal the election.Get em, Donald


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[Maru]

Harris is not strong enough to be President. Much as I am not overly fond of Trump, he knows what he's doing.

She will to have her party do the heavy lifting I think as she's running more to appeal to the emotions of the voter rather than show she makes good decisions based on proven policy. The policy/promises she's recently introduced, clearly are meant to appeal to moderates, seemingly come out of no where given the platform she's been a large part of (allegedly) for at least the past 4 years.

We all suspect Biden hasn't been running the WH and so it's hard to put down confidently who is really actually making the policy decisions there and especially if she can even be blamed for any of it. (The GOP is using their own insistence against them that *she* had been running more than we know in the WH against them, which is odd :laugh: But it's proper given they are trying to give that impression.. )

But for me, it really says a lot about how Democrats actually interpret their own political prowess when they have gone well out of their way to defend essentially what is a weaker leadership. They're relying too heavily on a default vote of "Never Trump", which may still work, based on the rest being a good enough facade to get the swing voter comfortable enough to even vote for Kamala. She hasn't had enough time to build a proper campaign, so in all fairness to her, a good portion of that may not even be her fault. However, Biden should not have ran in the first place and a proper candidate should've been selected. (It would not have been her, obviously...)

Put another way, I would not answer an official poll of any kind if I were asked about her. I have to wonder how many others might think the same? How can they ask about a post-primary candidate's performance whom we never had a chance to get comfortable enough to cast a vote for? Some voters might really take issue with that, to see her name on the Presidential ticket that wasn't even part of the official process. Biden may not have been all there (he isn't dead) and yet he received millions of votes, now invalidated by a completely political appointment. It presents a real hiccup, I think, but it really all comes down to the "How much can you stomach Trump?".

As for the party, the Democrats seemingly reintroduce themselves every 4 years as a party of "It's fine", where the past 4 years didn't really matter all that much and it's still the last President's fault who was part of the opposition party. It's too heavily based on invalidating the past, whether it's to be rid of it, to rewrite it or overwrite past mistakes. "Let's just get rid of all that", Kamala's favorite catchphrase. Not my example of a person who actually has their ear to the ground and knows what they are doing. "Oh this is not working how we want it to, let's get rid of it". With no thought put into why things were made the way they were... "We will have a Republican in our cabinet" won't fool the voter, imo, if they have no examples of where they take what works from other platforms and especially where the party is so arrogant to never learn from their own mistakes... they are asking a lot of the voter to ask them to keep participating in their experiments.

So when Trump is gone, what are they going to run with? Both parties will be in trouble once he is out. Democrats can't keep inventing crazy policies without a far right boogie man to distract the voter from analyzing the details. (They'll look for a new one though... I still remember how they ran against McCain before he became their ally.. and he's a moderate). And the GOP had better come up with someone who can keep their base above room temperature, because that's been their primary issue since Obama. The GOP is begging to be remade at this point and I hope it's more moderate because while a good part of the country loves being the Wild West, there's more room than ever for a mindset where people have taken the time to note both party's lack of performance and are less swayed by fictionalized versions of recent history and promises based on a short-term political memory... which has gotten increasingly longer with the modern Internet.

[bots]

its all going to be about turn out. Which voters are energised to vote. The dems now have a figurehead that is not a geriatric and that may be what makes the difference in the end

[Maru]

its all going to be about turn out. Which voters are energised to vote. The dems now have a figurehead that is not a geriatric and that may be what makes the difference in the end

Agree 100%. I'm really curious how this general is going to perform compared the past several. There's been a decline in who votes (in general). I have been tuned out as well but still dragging myself to primaries/generals/run offs out of literal obligation...

[arista]

She will be President Harris

[Crimson Dynamo]

MWSRgPpYKrg

[arista]

65 days to go


Not that long Maru...................

Harris told Dana on CNN HD (pre- recorded 38mins)
she will not ban Fracking.

[Liam-]

She will be President Harris

True, good to see you’ve seen the light

[bots]

Those waiting for the debate, i don't think it will change anything. Debates very rarely affect the outcome and Biden fell foul because he basically couldn't perform the normal functions of a typical human being

[user104658]

Those waiting for the debate, i don't think it will change anything. Debates very rarely affect the outcome and Biden fell foul because he basically couldn't perform the normal functions of a typical human being

I mean Trump won in 2016 and I'd be absolutely flabbergasted if someone could produce a debate where he outperformed Hillary :joker:. He was like a 12 year old trolling a Fortnite voice chat during that campaign.

[Liam-]

Ironically Trump agrees to the early debate could end up being the worst political decision he’s ever made (and there’s a lot of them)

[Crimson Dynamo]

The crazed woman cannot speak off script and that is what they are most afraid of

hence hiding her for over a month now with one softball far left CNN car crash "interview" with the stolen Valour cheat.

:facepalm:

[arista]

True, good to see you’ve seen the light


The Numbers all changed

[Maru]

65 days to go


Not that long Maru...................

Harris told Dana on CNN HD (pre- recorded 38mins)
she will not ban Fracking.

Neither is Halloween :laugh:

(I missed this earlier.)

[arista]

omrMRP15q9M

June 2021
far better interview NBC with her
Good the reporter Corrects Her
that she never went to the Border/

Than the CNN HD
soft interview.

[bots]

that was 3 years ago

[arista]

that was 3 years ago

For sure

[arista]

Today Harris took her Old Biden with her
on stage with her.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/09/01/23/89168993-0-image-a-2_1725230533690.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13802979/Harris-Biden-campaign-event-pittsburgh.html

[Maru]

omrMRP15q9M

June 2021
far better interview NBC with her
Good the reporter Corrects Her
that she never went to the Border/

Than the CNN HD
soft interview.

She can technically answer a question in a straightforward manner and yet still somehow come off so slippery as to not be confident in her answers. :laugh: It's a unique skill and one she has mastered, clearly. It's named "Fly Under the Radar" on her character sheet and she's put so many of her points into it, that it does boost her Charisma. So I think the deification of her personality could very well work. Potentially less arrogantly than Hillary Clinton if she doesn't fluff that up somehow... It could be her best asset. Some people really fall for word salad, because people do like to hear what they want to hear. But I agree, this interview, she presents much better. Her words.. not so much. I live in a border state in a port city with huge numbers of illegal immigration (in terms of people being uncounted in the Census) and none of the stuff she says here reaches home for me. It doesn't make any sense.

[bots]

I think Kamala is a breath of fresh air. She is a politician sure, but I would take her over anything the maga world have to offer. Obviously, i'm not an american, so what affects me, is having a global partner that is reliable in defence against authoritarian dictators, which maga and trump most certainly are not

[Alf]

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[Maru]

So, it does seem the media is starting to show concern about where the wind is blowing. There's been more polls and insider information that is not working in her favor. It's interesting that there's more clips going around that are more critical towards her coming straight from mainstream. Reminds me of 2016 when all the information was coming out about Hillary and suddenly there was this wall of concern and criticism. Same with Biden post-debate.

Normally campaign ads are kinda "blah", but the ones that I've seen against her could be very effective as they're delivering information that may not have already been known about her by the voter, such as past things she said (and the intensity at which she says them...). Simply because Trump is so well known, it's harder for him to put a "foot wrong". This is the one downside of over-saturating viewers with negative coverage for any candidate. It's true for American "dynasty" candidates, is that the more we know about them, the more comfortable we are allowed to become with them especially if the options they're running against are not nearly as well known or predictable. Trump has only run as himself, but with his name being so well known and all the scuffles already having been had in the public, he's becoming a de facto dynasty candidate in some ways without ever having another family member enter into a political race (though I think it's inevitable..). Whether that helps or hurts him, we won't know until we get the vote, but that's certainly what comes to mind as a casual viewer of politics. Anyway, polls being what they are, they're not a constant.


The Goldstar situation is significant. At least it is for those who are from a military family who has lost friends or family. If a candidate was invited and didn't show, that is definitely going to be noted, probably in any speeches made there. I'm familiar with this personally and it is not unusual for these gatherings to occur, for major emotions to come out and for individuals to speak on how certain politics or policies has impacted them personally. Especially any lack of government support... on the other hand, if they felt or received support, they would note that also and any gratefulness...

Trying to portray these gatherings as being politics free is comedy hour. If a family member dies, of course, war is going to be mentioned and the impacts of any terrible decisions made from higher ups in terms of their death. That's often why surviving service members meet in the first place is to vent their emotions about such sensitive topics that otherwise would be too inappropriate to discuss out in the public. For a number of reasons, 1) the public, on average, does not understand what they actually went through.. and can't be expected to have a reasonable take on such things... 2) Criticizing the govt or military openly is easily misconstrued and comments like that can be used to "help" the enemy... most still support our military and govt despite even obvious flaws 3) Often there are other mental health issues involved and that can put them in worse off situation... so actually, inviting Candidates who have the chance to take in the input and maybe even act on it behind the scenes is really relieving. It's also more productive than trying to "go to the media" and vent those concerns... some might already feel their pain has been used for political purposes, so what better than to bring all that to the gathering themselves and force them to face uncomfortable questions and criticisms... it doesn't usually bear fruit, so the fact that Trump even showed is significant to them.

[Maru]

I think Kamala is a breath of fresh air. She is a politician sure, but I would take her over anything the maga world have to offer. Obviously, i'm not an american, so what affects me, is having a global partner that is reliable in defence against authoritarian dictators, which maga and trump most certainly are not

What I have seen is there's much more discussion over policy now. Most people (even foreigners) can have those discussions and it not turn into a blood bath. I can't have the same debate about healthcare that we have in the States with someone in the UK, but I think we can all agree having health is important and have some kind of discussion.

All that said, the algorithms are more effective than we give them credit for. It is something to see the intensity at which people get very involved in American political chatter (to more of an extent than most do here), but I think there are many cases where it is relevant.

Just the same, it is amusing to see the amount of Americans starting up Youtubes and social media accounts specifically focused on defending the Royals. When there's even less impact there (to a foreigner's situation). It is comedy to see some those same accounts go from discussing American politics viscerally to suddenly arguing about dresses. :laugh:

FWIW, I do watch some channels on the Royals, but I understand it's from a distance and largely for my entertainment and not for personal enrichment.

[bots]

the election will remain close up to election day. It's in the medias interests for that to be the case. Over here, when it was obvious labour were going to win, people just didn't bother to watch any of it, there was absolutely no point

[Liam-]

The American media is owned primarily by m/billionaire Trump donors, they make money off of the insanity that is Trump, of course they are now making a push for Trump by attacking Harris, they don’t want to risk losing even more of their cash cow

[arista]

James Murdoch
and Dick Cheney are both voting for Harris.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/sep/06/dick-cheney-vote-kamala-harris

[arista]

Yesterday a New Poll
2024 Pennsylvania

Harrys 47.2
Trump 47.2


Just on CNN HD USA on UK TV.

[Sticks]

Fake News

All the women are lining up to vote for that gorgeous hunk of a man instead of that brazen hussy

All the Christians are voting Trump as that brazen hussy supports the murder of unborn children and Trump managed to get that obscenity Roe V Wade consigned to the dustbin of history.

But then the UNDemocratic party will just come along and cheat in order to steal the election like they did in 2020

[arista]

Fake News

All the women are lining up to vote for that gorgeous hunk of a man instead of that brazen hussy

All the Christians are voting Trump as that brazen hussy supports the murder of unborn children and Trump managed to get that obscenity Roe V Wade consigned to the dustbin of history.

But then the UNDemocratic party will just come along and cheat in order to steal the election like they did in 2020


You are wrong,
some women are voting Trump.
But more are now voting for Harris.

She will Face Trump on Tuesday
(Wednesday 2AM Live CNN HD for us).


Harris has much more Cash to spend
But her Live CNN debate can make
her or break her

This debate is also on SkyNewsHD and BBCnewsHD

[Maru]

Had my telephoto while out today. This was up at a small business:

https://i.postimg.cc/fygHyGt8/DSC0986-Dx-O.jpg


Most everything else is local candidacies, but there was a fairly professional looking sign for "Democrats for Trump" attached to a cement pole along a major roadway and it had QR code and a number below to text..

I still see BETO stickers while out. I've yet to see a Kamala one... (short candidacy though)

[arista]

Yes some zones
are sticking with Trump


I assume more other zones will pick Harris.

[arista]

They were saying
2024 Pennsylvania

Harrys 47.2
Trump 47.2

Pennsylvania has a voting system that
is a mess.

On the CNN HD USA Smerconish show.



Also
[Multiple outlets will televise and stream it.
But unlike in past years, when presidential debates
were organized by a bipartisan commission,
this is solely an ABC News production.
It won’t include a live audience.]

[arista]

[The debate will be 90 minutes
with two commercial breaks.

The two seated moderators will be
the only people asking questions.
A coin flip was held virtually on Tuesday, Sept. 3,
to determine podium placement and order
of closing statements;
former President Donald Trump won
the coin toss and chose to select the
order of statements.
The former president will offer the
last closing statement, and Vice President Harris
selected the right podium position
on screen (stage left).
Candidates will be introduced by the moderators.
The candidates enter upon introduction
from opposite sides of the stage;
the incumbent party will be
introduced first.]


From ABCnews USA Site

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/harris-trump-abc-news-presidential-debate-watch/story?id=113387977

[Glenn.]

Fake News

All the women are lining up to vote for that gorgeous hunk of a man instead of that brazen hussy

All the Christians are voting Trump as that brazen hussy supports the murder of unborn children and Trump managed to get that obscenity Roe V Wade consigned to the dustbin of history.

But then the UNDemocratic party will just come along and cheat in order to steal the election like they did in 2020

Are there not things to pick up bot responses on here

[Maru]

Heatwave has finally broke here. I am ready for some festive debating.

[arista]

Heatwave has finally broke here. I am ready for some festive debating.


Yes Good ABCnewsHD
is sharing the live debate with
all news.


I will watch it Live 2AM UK time
as if Harris slips up
all can change

Of Course, if she does well,
she will take power in November.



Strange Harris
is scared of doing more debates?

[Alf]

Yes Good ABCnewsHD
is sharing the live debate with
all news.


I will watch it Live 2AM UK time
as if Harris slips up
all can change

Of Course, if she does well,
she will take power in November.



Strange Harris
is scared of doing more debates?She could faint on stage and the MSM will still tell you that she did fantastic.

But the reality is that the last time a Democrat nominee debated Trump. They were fired a week later.

He didn't just destroy them in debate. He even scuppered their assassination attempt on him with his great head movement.

[Alf]

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[Maru]

Power move would be revealing her actual platform at the debate. I don't know what else she'd talk about to be honest other than "unity".

[Alf]

They were saying
2024 Pennsylvania

Harrys 47.2
Trump 47.2

Pennsylvania has a voting system that
is a mess.

On the CNN HD USA Smerconish show.



Also
[Multiple outlets will televise and stream it.
But unlike in past years, when presidential debates
were organized by a bipartisan commission,
this is solely an ABC News production.
It won’t include a live audience.]I'll give you a bit of reality.

I know what you're getting at though. They're putting in the propaganda for you for the steal. But Trump is destroying her.

Advertisement in the middle of this video, so skip through if you don't want to watch. Or if you do, then watch. The Advertisement is about Bitcoin. But my point of the video is not the advertisment. Just the same as your point on the mainstream media news isn't the advertisments.

Elton John speaking well of Trump in the second half of this video.


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[arista]

Ch4HD is showing the Harris/Trump debate Live
tomorrow from 1:30AM

[Alf]

Ch4HD is showing the Harris/Trump debate Live
tomorrow from 1:30AMThey wouldn't have shown it live if was 7pm. But they know that most British people will be hard-on a kip at that time.

[Maru]

All I can add is that, compared to 2016 and even 2020, the vibe has really changed and people are much more willing and comfortable to express support for Trump. And not doing so in a hyper-hysterical way, but rather talking about it from a personal POV of how certain things effect them. It's more regular people now asking questions and learning to dissect politics for themselves instead of depending on others (a net good). The internet has lengthened our political memory, and also, people have picked up a new habit of doing their own research thanks to things like politics, vaccines and social media censorship (of all kinds). So that's one major difference... we may not all come to the conclusions based on "research", but to be fair, look at the types of media and propaganda we have to sift through... Americans have been poked, prodded and bombarded with propaganda for several decades. And we still have to pay taxes on that ****ery.

Anyway, the uneasiness seems to all but be disappearing. I'm actually surprised, but I think it makes sense when considering the last 6-8 years of what politics has done to our social lives. There may still be some unfortunates out there who have to maintain uneasy connections and narcissistic relationships with the kind of person who is willing to throw them under the bus for politics. But we hear less and less about those "break ups" and I think because a lot of that has already happened.

Consider the number of folk that very publicly and gleefully snipped those relations over the past few years. Even if someone were a person who were non-confrontational, they likely saw the behavior of someone similar in their circles and learned to distance. How many distanced themselves from those kinds of relations and it impacted their worldview? I'd think a lot, because on average people most just want to mind their own business and be left alone. Much money is spent on the inside of our homes to keep things that way. (That's uniquely American, imo). So I think such toxic people only damage themselves, imo. Whether it was over politics or COVID, most of us have now had interactions with that type of person. But it also seems now, apparently, that more others have found a way to gain renewed confidence in discussing their politics more openly and so I've noticed political discussions (on average) have become more civil, rather than just pandering. Maybe because more centrists too coming out and finding each other. Whether it's discussing the candidates, but policies and how that's translated to what they see in reality. It's just nice. I don't see how that development could ever be "bad". I've never been a fan of being "told what to do".

Re: Trump; Whether that translates to a "win"... Well, my feeling is I don't think that translates to he's now suddenly "more popular". I don't trust the polls. I think it's more that people have gotten off the fence and are less scared to share an opinion, especially right now, when it is at the forefront of our minds and actually matters. Probably post-election, it'll go back to being quieter, but I think people having said their piece will translate to a healthier country moving forward. Other people seeing this, maybe that influences or tempers the polls some. Who knows, who cares. Regardless, it's less the major supporters now having the discussions, but more "normal" individuals who have decided to self-educate and saying "I think this way and here's why..."... So because I see that, I think the country is slowly filling in the blanks as to how they can disagree more amicably (and productively).

The other thing I've noticed, especially post-COVID, is that people are becoming more and more concerned about quality of the education system, not even just college now... but our public schools now are having major problems and schools are either closing or having to shorten weeks (4 day school weeks).. so hearing someone is a "Harvard grad" isn't as confidence-boosting these days.

I'll say for myself, compared to 2020, especially before Parler was wrecked, the rhetoric around Trump just seemed so much more anti-social. There were too many internet personalities trying to get famous off fanning the flames, so to speak. I am not surprised Jan 6th happened with the way those discussions were developing close to the elections. But other than that, I'm just speaking from a normal perspective of what I'm encountering, online and offline, that people like that are becoming a minority in the national discussion. And I think it's because people have wised up to algorithms and have finally tired of pointless bandwagons. Bandwagons have not translated to lower taxes, better living conditions and a more unified society... it has translated to deeper pockets for the parties and more money flowing through politics in general. So imo, until that money dries up, that part of politics isn't really over yet.

[arista]

He needs to let Harris talk more
as it Live
she can make her own mess.

On that last CNN with her Fat helper
it was not Live

[arista]

Live Tonight 2AM

SkyNewsHD
Ch4HD
BBCnewsHD
GBnewsHD
CNN HD

[Crimson Dynamo]

Wow!

New footage from 1995 ABC shows Kamala Harris at around age 30 partying with then
Mayor of San Francisco Willie Brown. Someone asks her if she's his daughter. She looks
annoyed and quickly replies "no."


Brown was 60 and Kamala was 29 when the pair first started dating.:umm2:


https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1833570484082119034

:shocked:

[Maru]

She has aged really well

[bots]

There is bound to be some drama tonight, which is what everyone is waiting for :laugh:

[Maru]

Live Tonight 2AM

SkyNewsHD
Ch4HD
BBCnewsHD
GBnewsHD
CNN HD

Halloween and Christmas decorations are coming out in shops. We are ready for both the creepy and the festive. If hub gets off on time maybe we will get some food for the debate. It will be on at 8pm here. Glad we don't live on the East Coast anymore.. sitting through it until 10:30 doesn't sound that appealing, much less 3:30am... get some sleep instead :love: Politics will always be there... waiting...

[Maru]

There is bound to be some drama tonight, which is what everyone is waiting for :laugh:

The Halloween costumes will be awesome this year. I own a 24" cutting machine. Maybe I should make a creepy Presidential yard sign.

[Maru]

No point in bumping Trump's thread for this but this might be a preview for tonight... a8xwOOnGnwE

Related:

Speaker Johnson plowing ahead with funding plan despite GOP opposition
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4871424-mike-johnson-government-funding-gop-opposition/

[Maru]

There was a poll earlier that I'd learned about where people were asked if they needed to know more about Kamala Harris... it was like 70%ish no...

About 1:00 in...

wL4Q-46QTus


That's a big number.

[Alf]

Tomorrow Biden is "doing 9/11" not my words, his.

Sounds like It's a bit of a chore for him.


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[Alf]

Thank Almighty God for sending us Donald Trump to save us from these Satanist, lunatics.

[Alf]

I'm not at work until 1.30pm tomorrow. Which means I can stay up to watch. But I've been up since quater past six this morning, so I don't think I'll make it. But I am trying.

[Maru]

Was looking to get local pizza, but their phone lines are tied up, no doubt with other people who have the same idea (or their lines are out...)... I like their spicy pizza combo because it clears the sinuses... but yeah... we're getting God's chicken instead (Chic fil' a)

*I'm not at work until 1.30pm tomorrow. Which means I can stay up to watch. But I've been up since quater past six this morning, so I don't think I'll make it. But I am trying.

Sleep is valuable, but I can see why you would be excited.

[Alf]

Here's how the debate will go.

Harris will stick to a rehersed script that she's been learning.

Trump will just ad-lib and play it by ear.

[Alf]

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[Alf]

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[bots]

i have abc news warmed up and ready

[Maru]

i have abc news warmed up and ready

There's dozens of options to stream and when I loaded up Roku (it has loads of broadcast/network TV) basically everyone had debate coverage hours in advance... it's like something important is happening or something :laugh:

[arista]

Ch4HD now Live

[bots]

There's dozens of options to stream and when I loaded up Roku (it has loads of broadcast/network TV) basically everyone had debate coverage hours in advance... it's like something important is happening or something :laugh:

on youtube they have live watchalongs by the score :laugh:

[Maru]

All the pressure is on Kamala and so the focus isn't on Trump. I'm hearing all about how she should be prepared. He is definitely flying under the radar atm. That's the problem with media propping her up to stratospheric levels is that now is that it sets her up to be a glass cannon, but it's risky. (Glass cannons are built to deliver big hits, but are incredibly fragile...)

Who knows what the actual voter is thinking, though.

[Alf]

Let's face facts. You're here because Trump is here. If Trump wasn't here, you wouldn't be here. Am I right? I'm not wrong.

[Alf]

It's OK to admit you like Trump. He's great man. Of course you like him.

[Maru]

Preview of the debate... they finally changed it!

https://www.twitch.tv/trumporkamala2024

[arista]

USA 6PM (LA) & 9PM (NYC)

UK 2AM

Also, Live on UK Radio

Times Radio

BBC Radio 5

[Alf]

I'm not gonna make it. I'm off to kip. I'll watch when I get up before I go to work.

All I'll say Is...Get em' Donnie

[arista]

Preview of the debate... they finally changed it!

https://www.twitch.tv/trumporkamala2024


Thats good.

[Alf]

Here's the debate moderator trying to link Trump to the kKK.

Don't worry. The Donald loves to go up against the odds. They've been against him since he came down the escalator. Nothing new.


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[arista]

1833512999799107818

[arista]

No Audience

And the Mute Button

No Notes
but they can write down

2 commercial breaks


ABCnewsHD.

[arista]

Live Now

[arista]

90mins

2 commercial breaks

Kamala and Trump Shook Hands

[arista]

Kamala sounds nervous

[arista]

Trump is Direct

Kamala makes written notes

[arista]

So Far this is Kamala
telling the World, about Trump.

She needs to talk about herself

[Maru]

Kamala sounds nervous

Understandable

[bots]

its very much toe to toe and i dont really see that changing :laugh:

[arista]

Understandable

Yes


Trump is talking about the high price of Bacon.

[Maru]

I bought bacon recently. I agree. Too damn high!

[bots]

they are both well prepared

[arista]

I bought bacon recently. I agree. Too damn high!


Yes,


Trump is clever in saying she is using his plans
he was thinking, he would send her a Maga Hat.


Made Harris Laugh

[Maru]

Hillary did the stare and glare thing and that really did not work for her.

Also the female anchor looks like Kerri Washington from Scandal.

[arista]

Hillary did the stare and glare thing and that really did not work for her.

Also the female anchor looks like Kerri Washington from Scandal.


Now Harris claims Trump is talking about Lies

[arista]

Trump says
there she goes again, it is a Lie.


Trump seems very Sharp.

[Maru]

The female anchor arguing with him directly seems sketchy..

[arista]

Harris brings up IVF


But Trump has stated
recently he will make it Free

[arista]

Now they Turn to Immigration

[Maru]

He has been very supportive of IVF, I have seen that... also I thought they weren't allowed to ask each other questions? lol

[arista]

He has been very supportive of IVF, I have seen that... also I thought they weren't allowed to ask each other questions? lol


Yes
they are.

[bots]

He has been very supportive of IVF, I have seen that... also I thought they weren't allowed to ask each other questions? lol

didn't look like the mics were muted at that point :laugh:

[Maru]

1500 patrol officers aint **** if theyre there to tear down the barrier and help people come in...

[Maru]

didn't look like the mics were muted at that point :laugh:

I am surprised they didn't stop it with all the talk of rules

[arista]

I am surprised they didn't stop it with all the talk of rules


Yes they should have

[bots]

i think they have both done enough to re-enforce their own support, but i dont think either have moved the needle

[arista]

60mins to go.

[Maru]

60mins to go.

Good God :laugh:

[arista]

Trump talked about the 13 dead in Afghanistan

Valid Point

[arista]

Trump is talking
loud and Direct.



Harris writing notes

[Maru]

I have a cake to frost. I am going to go grab

[bots]

i think harris got a stinger in there

[arista]

I have a cake to frost. I am going to go grab


Good one

[arista]

The Lady Presenter Started talking


Trump started shouting

So she shut up

[Maru]

The Lady Presenter Started talking


Trump started shouting

So she shut up

Missed it

[bots]

i think Harris is doing very well, much better than Biden :laugh:

[Maru]

i think harris got a stinger in there

She is doing OK IMO

Trump looks like he might go off

[bots]

Trump is just lying .... but at least Harris is arguing back

[arista]

i think Harris is doing very well, much better than Biden :laugh:


Of Course better than real old Biden.

So many would be.

[Maru]

I feel like her talking points are coming through moderators

[bots]

I feel like her talking points are coming through moderators

on both sides really, i think the mods are doing a much better job than cnn

[arista]

Now we are on the Israel Crisis

[Maru]

Trump and the end of the world predictions are not going to go well with Independents

[Maru]

That's where her prep is paying off, she is framing things better (clearer contrast).. Trump keeps going on tangents and that may be fine for his base, but he needs swing votes

[bots]

Trump and the end of the world predictions are not going to go well with Independents

he is all negative and about him, him him, nothing about the american people

[bots]

trump is coming across as shouty and deranged

[Maru]

trump is coming across as shouty and deranged

It's grating and probably causing people to literally tune out.

[Maru]

Now she is trying to interrupt lol

[Maru]

His anger is making her look in control

[Maru]

You can see her confidence building in real time

[bots]

His anger is making her look in control

yep, she is baiting him and he falls for it

[Maru]

lol Have never heard anyone talk about Camp David... wth. So random.

yep, she is baiting him and he falls for it

Exactly.

[arista]

Trump is so right,
Stupid Biden
did leave loads, of Military gear behind in Afghanistan.

That was Stupid

[arista]

Again just as the Lady Presenter talks

Trump buts in

Stops her.

[arista]

ABC may as well
just have the fella Presenter

[bots]

i think Harris is coming across as calm, collected and sensible and trump simply isn't

[Maru]

Again just as the Lady Presenter talks

Trump buts in

Stops her.

Kinda not his fault they usually get a chance to answer. There is a lot of heat in this race

[Maru]

i think Harris is coming across as calm, collected and sensible and trump simply isn't

He is coming across as Trump

[arista]

Harris wanted to Reply.

The Lady Presenter Stopped her,


GOOD

[bots]

must be time up soon

[Maru]

His Obamacare answer isn't bad

[Maru]

Her prep has more than paid off. I think she changes votes tonight.

[Maru]

Whatever the end result, tonight was not an embarassment, like the Biden debate, and that will be good for the country

[arista]

It has Gone over 90minutes

[Maru]

I noticed lol

[arista]

Now Closing Statements

Harris is first

[arista]

I did not learn anything new from Harris.

Not a Good Debate, in that way.

[arista]

Trump is on Roll


As she Harris can not say anymore.

[Maru]

I did not learn anything new from Harris.

Not a Good Debate, in that way.

I still think most people are already decided. This is fighting over margin of errors at this point, which we all knew

[arista]

ABC news

Remove Lindsey Davis
from any important debates

[arista]

I still think most people are already decided. This is fighting over margin of errors at this point, which we all knew


Yes very true

[Liam-]

He sounded like a crazy person, even more so than usual, a disastrous performance

[arista]

He sounded like a crazy person, even more so than usual, a disastrous performance


I think he was more Direct.

[Maru]

Fox wth lol

https://i.postimg.cc/C5mnGs7b/2024-09-1021-47-29588237052807940766.jpg

[arista]

Yes Hannity is Cocky

[arista]

Vivek talking on SkyNewsHD Live
in Philadelphia


Saying the Presenters not good.


Well that Lady Lindsey was not good

[Maru]

That's good she initiated the handshake. I just saw the clip. I was putting my child down.

[arista]

Sure a Hand Shake is rare
for those 2

[Maru]

Listening to coverage... I don't know that she looked Presidential, but the Presidency hasn't "looked" Presidential for a long time. She did what she needed to do which is to prove she could put up a fight. The Presidential look is earned after the election.

[arista]

What Stinks
No more Debates

I blame Harris 100%

[bots]

i thought Kamala won the debate on every level. She was very well prepared

[arista]

Taylor Swift confirms she is voting for Harris.

[Maru]

Fun chatting with you all tonight.. now go to sleep lol

[bots]

Fun chatting with you all tonight.. now go to sleep lol

thanks for putting up with me :laugh:

[Maru]

thanks for putting up with me :laugh:

:love:

[arista]

1833391092781171100

[arista]

Trump is Live now


Standing in front of ABC News Sign.

[Maru]

Trump is Live now


Standing in front of ABC News Sign.

Thanks because I would've missed that

[arista]

Reports there will be a 2nd Debate


So the Democrats are saying?

[Maru]

The mics might as well have been open with the way the moderators intervened, we could also hear the other candidates clearly when they were "off"

[arista]

Trump is now talking Live on FoxNewsHD (online for UK)
at that event.

[arista]

1833587307792023963


https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1833587307792023963

[arista]

A Joke Image from X


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXI2TLgWkAAUw2y?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

Another One

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXI3aZyWQAAgjOE?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

Ch4HDnews
reporter in the USA
spoke to a Trump Voter.

He said she is going to win

[Sticks]

Commie la Harris will be Putin's Poodle

Trump aced the debate, hands down and Fox has the polling to prove it

[Mystic Mock]

Being completely fair.

- Harris won the debate as she simply dodged the fewest questions, where as Trump mainly kept ranting about immigration and taking the other topics off-topic.

- The Moderators were an absolute joke, barely controlling the candidates, and clearly had a bias against Trump.

Including the guy even having a borderline argument with Trump at one point.:umm2:

- The Media in general seem to be very in favour of Harris becoming President.

- "THE MIGRANTS OF SPRINGFIELD ARE EATING DOGS AND CATS!"

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/09/11/04/89520875-0-image-m-2_1726025710830.jpg

[Oliver_W]

A Joke Image from X


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXI2TLgWkAAUw2y?format=jpg&name=small

Right.

I think another part of her campaign is CHANGE?

But I don't get that, she's surely more of the same? How would she be change or new anything, in any way?

[bots]

Right.

I think another part of her campaign is CHANGE?

But I don't get that, she's surely more of the same? How would she be change or new anything, in any way?

her key message is not going back to the past and turning the page. So she is saying enough to divisive politics and taking womens rights back 50 years

[user104658]

1833391092781171100

I certainly can't think of a more accurate metric of Trump's victory chances than a poll of his daughter's social media followers. :joker: honestly.

[Oliver_W]

her key message is not going back to the past and turning the page. So she is saying enough to divisive politics and taking womens rights back 50 years

Maintaining women's rights is status quo - change would be removing them.

Though I imagine she's one of those who pretends to be shocked that working different jobs and/or fewer hours magically means someone gets paid less?

[user104658]

Maintaining women's rights is status quo - change would be removing them.

Though I imagine she's one of those who pretends to be shocked that working different jobs and/or fewer hours magically means someone gets paid less?

Just say you can't wrap your head around the complex sociology of income disparity between the sexes Oliver - it doesn't make you look clever when you smack a complex, deep-rooted and extremely nuanced inequality with a hammer. It just looks oversimplistic and dismissive.

[Oliver_W]

Just say you can't wrap your head around the complex sociology of income disparity between the sexes Oliver - it doesn't make you look clever when you smack a complex, deep-rooted and extremely nuanced inequality with a hammer. It just looks oversimplistic and dismissive.

Tell that to those who make it sound like they actually think that men and women get paid different amounts for the same job. Shorthanding it to "pay gap" warrants dismissal.

If Harris actually isn't aiming for the lowest common denominator and is actually talking about the things that cause disparity in careers and hours worked, then great! But I don't have high expectations from mainstream American politics :laugh:.

[Maru]

Well that was fun last night, watching moderators tag in with Kamala on tasty baits while watching Trump hit himself repeatedly.

[GiRTh]

Harris won as we all knew she would. Anyone can debate Trump on te issues just as long as they get him to knd of stick to the issues. A well informed toddler could out debate Trump[ - A man who thinks that asylum seekers have got something to do with Mental Health institutes. He thinks the asylum is some kind of insane asylum. This is how clueless he actually is.

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-bret-baier-fox-news-border-insane-asylum-claim-1807887

[user104658]

I saw a clip of him declaring that immigrants will kidnap and eat American people's dogs. Lol.

[Liam-]

I saw a clip of him declaring that immigrants will kidnap and eat American people's dogs. Lol.

‘They’re eating… DOGS!’ Will go down in history as the most unhinged moment in presidential debate history

[Maru]

Being completely fair.

- Harris won the debate as she simply dodged the fewest questions, where as Trump mainly kept ranting about immigration and taking the other topics off-topic.

- The Moderators were an absolute joke, barely controlling the candidates, and clearly had a bias against Trump.

Including the guy even having a borderline argument with Trump at one point.:umm2:

- The Media in general seem to be very in favour of Harris becoming President.

- "THE MIGRANTS OF SPRINGFIELD ARE EATING DOGS AND CATS!"

There's videos of the last bit, as if we needed to know this very critical info. It's making its rounds all over X. Not that it's anything I'd go out of my way to look up. :laugh: I've heard or seen similar things and worse, so nothing really shocks me now. I took a 3-day occult course at the police academy (as a visitor) and there's enough that goes on in people's backyards that an in-depth course is even needed at all. Obviously the public dialogue misses this aspect of life. Most weird things that happened used to be learned from neighbors, "I would tell you about this but you wouldn't believe it"... but now social media also... and remember, everyone is welcome here :laugh: Just because it seems really weird and out there to us may not be so weird to someone else...


As for the rest, I'd say it's easily a Harris win and she came off the way she needed to to counter any negativity as to her personality. Policy is still lacking, but at this point, the performance was raw enough that if personality will sway any remaining undecided voters, then those votes are likely to be pocketed by her. She did what she came to do and she didn't need to do much else. I don't see her surpassing this high because the bar was set so low, so it will be interesting to see how this plays out until election day. Whether it changes enough minds that are left for the take won't be known until then. The media across the board are schizophrenic atm trying to cover last night's debate performance on behalf of their favorite, lots of counteracting of lies told and the other claiming nothing to see here... and it's just so tiresome. I can fact check for myself and I really don't appreciate the amount of interruptions last night by the moderators. I think they were going for ratings and trying to stand out from CNN, which isn't that difficult really... what the debate reinforced to me is I can't rely on the media to tell the truth... there's people saying "but he actually won!"... He clearly bombed.

[Sticks]

And it is all true, whatever those so called fact checkers say. Don't forget, the first three letters of Truth are also in Trump, as is trustworthy

[Gusto Brunt]

I used to be a Trump supporter, but last night he looked old and tired politically.

He's a busted flush. Harris will be the next President.

And I think Harris will win by a substantial amount over Trump.

[Maru]

Apparently they like ducks too (@1:00)... the only reason I now know about this (or care) is that it was brought up during the debate:

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[bots]

Tell that to those who make it sound like they actually think that men and women get paid different amounts for the same job. Shorthanding it to "pay gap" warrants dismissal.

If Harris actually isn't aiming for the lowest common denominator and is actually talking about the things that cause disparity in careers and hours worked, then great! But I don't have high expectations from mainstream American politics :laugh:.

She is talking about a womans right to take responsibility for her own body. She is talking about not having womens periods monitored. She is talking about not being forced to remain with a partner that beats her up. She is talking about it being removed as an offence to beat up your wife. A bit more than pay disparity. If you think it sounds ridiculous, go read about project 2025

[Maru]

Apparently Dr Phil is in politics now... I'll maybe watch later. He's asking regular people their opinions. I'm so tired of hearing from commentators.

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[Oliver_W]

She is talking about a womans right to take responsibility for her own body. She is talking about not having womens periods monitored. She is talking about not being forced to remain with a partner that beats her up. She is talking about it being removed as an offence to beat up your wife.

So the status quo?

[Alf]

Right.

I think another part of her campaign is CHANGE?

But I don't get that, she's surely more of the same? How would she be change or new anything, in any way?She's been second in command for the past four years. So does she mean "change" from what she's currently been doing?

She only has desire to hold on to power.

Trump is the one who has been trying to change the status quo since he first ran for election. And you've all witnessed the push back against him in all that time from the status quo. Even to the point that they tried to imprison him and even shoot him dead.

[Alf]

They never thought he'd win first time. They thought they had it under control.

Now he knows everything.

It's all been a military operation.

If you look at who Trump put alongside him in his first term. They've all gone now, but had to be put there to bring them out in the open. Who knew who Dr Fauci was until Trump paraded him for you? Did you even know who Jeffrey Epstein was before Trump got in?

Mike Pence. Trump put him in and you witnessed how he was a Judas at the end. Mike Pompao another who Trump brought out of the shadows.

The stolen election of 2020 had to happen. Again about showing the people, who were now awake, how it happens.

Trump is the biggest sting job in history.

Don't be surprised if Trump wins and steps down and gives power to RFK. At this point we know they know who assassinated RFKs father and Uncle.

[Glenn.]

The Trumpies on here are running scared now.

So much so that they haven’t even bothered to post in the Donald Trump thread since the 1st September.

[Alf]

The Trumpies on here are running scared now.

So much so that they haven’t even bothered to post in the Donald Trump thread since the 1st September.I can give you a Donnie post if you want?

I can see you're craving him. It's understandable, he's doing something of legendary greatness for us all right now.

[Glenn.]

I can give you a Donnie post if you want?

I can see you're craving him. It's understandable, he's doing something of legendary greatness for us all right now.

Yeah he’s REALLY legendary

[Glenn.]

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Queen :love:

[Alf]

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Queen :love:Like LT said earlier. She's become a billionaire from singing about her bad choices in life. Why would she change?

[Glenn.]

Very Trump of you to ignore a powerful woman’s achievements

[Mystic Mock]

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Queen :love:

I actually feel sad for society that people will just be slaves to their favourite Celebrities.

[Alf]

Very Trump of you to ignore a powerful woman’s achievementsShe's not powerful. She's a deep state pawn. She has no freedom. She is kept wealthy by playing ball. If she steps out of line, then the system will destroy her. She's a hostage, like many of them. And that's sad. Because deep down I bet she just wanted to be a music artist.

[Mystic Mock]

Very Trump of you to ignore a powerful woman’s achievements

On the other front tbf, some of the far left won't view Taylor Swift as a powerful woman because she's attractive and doesn't weigh 10,000 pounds.

Admittedly that side will be smaller than the group that you've mentioned, but they're definitely out there.

[Alf]

You see how the system is trying to destroy Trump and Elon Musk right now for stepping out of line. But so far, those guys ain't backing down and they have the most powerful tool in the World behind them, the people.

[Alf]

Just seen footage of Glenn getting interviewed on the street.


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[bots]

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[Maru]

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[Maru]

I love this image. It's legit comedy. The guy who let him wear it called him an "old fart". He really did seem confused, but I don't care. It was a nice gesture. That grin.
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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

Trump will not confirm,
he will do another debate.

He should say he will but only on FoxNewsHD

[arista]

I love this image. It's legit comedy. The guy who let him wear it called him an "old fart". He really did seem confused, but I don't care. It was a nice gesture. That grin.
https://i.postimg.cc/L6Pc72h7/GXOc-Iq-DXUAAYa-TZ.jpg



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