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arista
12-08-2024, 12:52 PM
But was given the Milk Version

Costa is looking into better staff training?

It will be in Court all week.


https://www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/aug/09/inquest-to-look-into-13-year-old-girl-who-died-after-drinking-costa-hot-chocolate


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She asked for their Soya Hot Chocolate
did everything right

Costa Coffee : 100% Guilty

joeysteele
12-08-2024, 01:06 PM
Really worrying this .

What a tragedy.

Ammi
12-08-2024, 01:09 PM
…a very extreme reaction if she only sipped the drink/was able to have an epi pen shot quite quickly…although I don’t know how long to get to the pharmacy for the shot…huge error of negligence by Costa’s if it’s proven to be the drink …?..so sad that she couldn’t be saved, heartbreaking story…’just a visit to the dentist’…and her life gone…awful…

arista
12-08-2024, 01:21 PM
The Staff must be sacked.

And the Company must pay out money to the family

Why is it in Court for a week?


It is clear who is guilty

arista
12-08-2024, 01:23 PM
Her whole Life would be only ordering Soya Hot Drinks

But on that visit Slopping Costa Coffee
it was the sloppy staff

Quantum Boy
12-08-2024, 01:33 PM
I don't understand how this happened if she was fatally allergic, there's no way to entirely prevent cross-contamination in a venue like that even before you consider the risk of errors. Milk protein allergy is very different to lactose intolerance. Even then though a fatal reaction with milk allergy is extremely rare?

Niamh.
12-08-2024, 01:37 PM
I don't understand how this happened if she was fatally allergic, there's no way to entirely prevent cross-contamination in a venue like that even before you consider the risk of errors. Milk protein allergy is very different to lactose intolerance. Even then though a fatal reaction with milk allergy is extremely rare?

Yeah I don't know enough about it to make any kind of real comment here but it seems a very extreme reaction to milk allergy(?) You'd think if the reactions were that strong and milk could be that deadly that quickly to her she would never risk a coffee shop drink that usually contains milk (when a supplement isn't requested so open for error)

Ammi
12-08-2024, 01:44 PM
I don't understand how this happened if she was fatally allergic, there's no way to entirely prevent cross-contamination in a venue like that even before you consider the risk of errors. Milk protein allergy is very different to lactose intolerance. Even then though a fatal reaction with milk allergy is extremely rare?

…yeah, that’s why I said if it was proven to be the drink because that sounds like a hugely extreme reaction…and as with severe nut allergies …’could contain nuts’ because of the area the drink is prepared in, would apply also…it’s inevitable that dairy would have been present in that area …

Niamh.
12-08-2024, 01:47 PM
…yeah, that’s why I said if it was proven to be the drink because that sounds like a hugely extreme reaction…and as with severe nut allergies …’could contain nuts’ because of the area the drink is prepared in, would apply also…it’s inevitable that dairy would have been present in that area …

Poor girl though, I don't think I'd ever eat out at all if I had allergies that severe , it would be terrifying

Ammi
12-08-2024, 01:52 PM
Poor girl though, I don't think I'd ever eat out at all if I had allergies that severe , it would be terrifying

…no I know, it’s a very scary thing to live with…we’ve had children at the school with very severe allergies…/…mainly nut but we have had a few others on occasion’s…and what others around them are eating obviously had to be carefully looked at and considered as well..

Niamh.
12-08-2024, 01:58 PM
…no I know, it’s a very scary thing to live with…we’ve had children at the school with very severe allergies…/…mainly nut but we have had a few others on occasion’s…and what others around them are eating obviously had to be carefully looked at and considered as well..

Yeah the nut ones are crazy, that even another passenger on a plane eating nuts for example could effect the person with the allergy

arista
12-08-2024, 02:02 PM
I don't understand how this happened if she was fatally allergic, there's no way to entirely prevent cross-contamination in a venue like that even before you consider the risk of errors. Milk protein allergy is very different to lactose intolerance. Even then though a fatal reaction with milk allergy is extremely rare?


No Diary


Look she asked for their Soya hot chocolate


That Store has Soya Hot drinks
one staff member KILLED her. FACT



So Simple to understand SB

Ammi
12-08-2024, 02:04 PM
Yeah the nut ones are crazy, that even another passenger on a plane eating nuts for example could effect the person with the allergy

…yeah and I know my main experience of severe allergies is more restricted to young children but I’ve never known any of the more severe allergies have any food that’s been prepared in a public area…

Niamh.
12-08-2024, 02:06 PM
…yeah and I know my main experience of severe allergies is more restricted to young children but I’ve never known any of the more severe allergies have any food that’s been prepared in a public area…

How could you risk it really?

Ammi
12-08-2024, 02:08 PM
How could you risk it really?

…and take that risk without having an epipen as well…it’ll be interesting to know a more complete story of this…

bots
12-08-2024, 02:21 PM
i have a severe food intolerance/allergy and i am always hyper aware of where food is sourced. People have called me an ass, laughed at me, ignored me .... and everything in between, but the ultimate responsibility is mine on what I choose to eat or drink

Quantum Boy
12-08-2024, 02:23 PM
…no I know, it’s a very scary thing to live with…we’ve had children at the school with very severe allergies…/…mainly nut but we have had a few others on occasion’s…and what others around them are eating obviously had to be carefully looked at and considered as well..

My wife and daughter both shouldn't (but do lol) have dairy, my daughter is lactose intolerance and wife has mild milk protein allergy but neither would have more than a risk of a slightly off stomach.

Although, my wife did once eat a protein chocolate bar -- unaware that it's basically a condensed block of milk protein :omgno:. She was VERY VERY unwell, in a lot of pain. But again that's a condensed block of pure protein not a little sip of milk.

bots
12-08-2024, 02:27 PM
My wife and daughter both shouldn't (but do lol) have dairy, my daughter is lactose intolerance and wife has mild milk protein allergy but neither would have more than a risk of a slightly off stomach.

Although, my wife did once eat a protein chocolate bar -- unaware that it's basically a condensed block of milk protein :omgno:. She was VERY VERY unwell, in a lot of pain. But again that's a condensed block of pure protein not a little sip of milk.

i once threw up in a restaurant 3 minutes after eating a pea that had been buttered. I think the restaurant learnt a valuable lesson that night on listening to customer requests :laugh:

arista
12-08-2024, 04:15 PM
Ch5HDnews Reporter Live there,

That Barking Costa

The Lady that served her took over 20 attempts
when she was doing the online course.

There is a book under the counter, if in doubt.
Which the staff lady never touched.

UserSince2005
12-08-2024, 05:39 PM
Can't go wrong with a hot chocy woccy .

Or so they thought.

arista
16-08-2024, 09:24 PM
In Court, today
the ex-worker needed a translator in Court.

It appears Costa Coffee is Guilty of Employing
workers who do not understand English.

Ch4HDnews.

UserSince2005
16-08-2024, 09:50 PM
Everyone understands “hot choccy woccy pleasy weasy”
But I guess not “hot coccy woccy, soya woya”

Vanessa
17-08-2024, 04:59 AM
How can you employ someone who doesn't understand English?
You need to take allergies very seriously. Some can be fatal.
We have allergy free products in our factory and procedure is very strict.

Zizu
17-08-2024, 05:12 AM
How can you employ someone who doesn't understand English?
You need to take allergies very seriously. Some can be fatal.
We have allergy free products in our factory and procedure is very strict.


The woman i was dealing with yesterday on the phone to Aviva yesterday was struggling to understand and explain things to me

It took over an hour yesterday plus 30 minutes on Thursday JUST to find out a CAR Insurance group !!!


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Mystic Mock
17-08-2024, 06:02 AM
The woman i was dealing with yesterday on the phone to Aviva yesterday was struggling to understand and explain things to me

It took over an hour yesterday plus 30 minutes on Thursday JUST to find out a CAR Insurance group !!!


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Both are really bad, but this one is really common to happen, and it's wrong imo.

In any country, the people that are having jobs where they're communicating with people over the Phone, should be able to speak fluent at that language (in this case English,) it's wrong to expect the customer to have to translate what someone is saying to them over the Phone, over what should've been a simple inquiry no less.

Obviously the Milk allergy one is worse because it lead to someone dying, which probably wouldn't have happened if (in fairness to the worker) they hadn't given them a job where they have to take the customer's order.

GoldHeart
17-08-2024, 06:11 AM
Poor girl though, I don't think I'd ever eat out at all if I had allergies that severe , it would be terrifying

When allergies are that severe ,they usually have a EpiPen of some kind or medication ...I would have thought? .

However...I still don't understand how such a huge error like this could be made , considering how accommodating coffee shops usually are re: allergies & dietary requirements, when I've been to coffee places ...they usually have every plant based milk that's going.

And if the worker didn't understand or didn't check ,then he shouldn't be serving food & drinks, especially to people with allergies that severe. It's cost her life .

Ammi
17-08-2024, 06:32 AM
When allergies are that severe ,they usually have a EpiPen of some kind or medication ...I would have thought?

However...I still don't understand how such a huge error like this could be made , considering how accommodating coffee shops usually are re: allergies & dietary requirements, when I've been to coffee places ...they usually have every plant based milk that's going.

And if the worker didn't understand or didn't check ,then he shouldn't be serving food & drinks, especially to people with allergies that severe. It's cost her life .

…yeah, that was my thought with the Epipen and that’s obviously ideally how it should be….I know at the school, though…that we’ve been without epicene for a long while because there has been such a shortage for several years now and it isn’t something that seems to rectify…I say this also because it was mentioned in the radio that she was waiting for an epipen and didn’t have one at the time to be able to carry around…

Ammi
17-08-2024, 06:35 AM
…it might have been also that with such an extreme allergy reaction that more than one epipen would have been needed also…

Livia
17-08-2024, 08:40 AM
I don't want to sound harsh but if she was that allergic, why is she ordering a hot chocolate from people earning minimum wage? How savvy and up on the latest allergies do we want them to be for £11 per hour, and much, much less for teenagers.

arista
17-08-2024, 09:26 AM
I don't want to sound harsh but if she was that allergic, why is she ordering a hot chocolate from people earning minimum wage? How savvy and up on the latest allergies do we want them to be for £11 per hour, and much, much less for teenagers.


Because Costa
sell and promote their Soya version


What is wrong
is the sacked worker lady
did not speak good English