Germany : ISIS, Syrian Terrorist,26: Mass Stabbing : many now dead

[arista]

Again



[A number of people are reported to have
been killed in a knife attack in the
western German city of Solingen, local media say.

Bild website says a man randomly
stabbed passers-by during a festival.
Several people were also injured in the attack.

The attacker is believed to have
fled the scene, and police have
launched a manhunt.]


BBC

Details of the attack are still sketchy.

[UserSince2005]

Europe is HELL

[Beso]

Not another Taylor swift event I hope.

I know that sounds bad, and sounds like its diminishing the fact that it's probably not. But it could be, right?

[arista]

Not another Taylor swift event I hope.

I know that sounds bad, and sounds like its diminishing the fact that it's probably not. But it could be, right?


No it was a Local Festival

Typical place for this Terrorist
to Murder.

So far 3 are dead (Ref:SkyNewsHD)

[Mystic Mock]

Do they know if there was anyone helping him?

[arista]

He is still on the run.


German Police should kill him,
in my view

[Ammi]

…another awful, violent attack…and such a concern that the attacker is still out there and could attack again…I hope that the person responsible is in custody very soon…

[MTVN]

It seems baffling that he's still at large and they have no description of the attacker. He stabbed a load of people in a crowd of thousands - how do they not have dozens of witnesses who could describe him :conf:

[Nicky91]

No it was a Local Festival

Typical place for this Terrorist
to Murder.

So far 3 are dead (Ref:SkyNewsHD)

yes a local festival to celebrate the 650th anniversary of Solingen

https://www.dw.com/en/germany-police-hunt-killer-after-solingen-stabbings/live-70038019
this link is a useful liveblog btw

Solingen: A festival in a city marked by tragedy

The name given to the event, "Festival of Diversity," comes amid fears that xenophobia is rising in Germany.


Solingen itself was the scene of one of the worst cases of xenophobic violence in postwar Germany.

In May 1993, four young German men who had neo-Nazi ties set fire to the house of a large Turkish family, killing three girls and two women and injuring 14 other family members.

In October 1995, the perpetrators were convicted of arson and murder and given prison sentences of between 10 and 15 years.

The incident cause a wave of shock throughout Germany, where many residents are of Turkish origin, partly owing to a labor recruitment agreement signed between Berlin and Ankara in 1961.

[arista]

New Reports,
from German Press
the Terrorist is an Arab-looking man.

[UserSince2005]

New Reports,
from German Press
the Terrorist is an Arab-looking man.

Thank **** they finally been brave enough to describe the man. Probably took a lot of hours of meeting for them to decide how best to describe him.
Now let’s hope he can be found.

[Gusto Brunt]

It could happen anywhere.

I was in the mall today and thought, what's to stop a nutcase stabbing people in here?

Nothing.

[MTVN]

New Reports,
from German Press
the Terrorist is an Arab-looking man.

Link?

[Cherie]

I just heard a news report saying not to speculate about the stabber, but there must to loads of CCTV as well as witnesses, they make things worse because how are people to protect themselves if they dont have at least some kind of description? He went for peoples necks so he knew what he was doing

RIP to the victims

[arista]

Police Have arrested him.

[arista]

Link?


Was Live on GBnewsHD

[UserSince2005]

Police Have arrested him.

His fun is over

[arista]

The Terrorist picked the "Festival of Diversity"


German Cops need to say
the place he was born.

[arista]

His fun is over


Murdering 3 Germans
is Evil

[Ammi]

Police Have arrested him.


…excellent news…

[Ammi]

…I don’t know if fake internet/Twitter is going to be the thing now as this could be following in a similar path as the Southport attack did with false information building online ….


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[Nicky91]

German special police units involved in manhunt following attack
Special police units have joined in the search for the man who stabbed three people and injured eight others at a festival in the western German city of Solingen.

"The police are currently conducting a large-scale search for the perpetrator," police said in a statement. "Both victims and witnesses are currently being questioned," they said.

.


Leading Green politicians voice condolences, call for fast arrest
German Economy Minister Robert Habeck and Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock from the Green Party have both expressed their sorrow at the Solingen attack.

"Violence against people who just want to celebrate happily is something to be condemned," Habeck, who is also vice chancellor, said in Berlin.

He wished strength and comfort to the loved ones of those who died in the attack and a good recovery to those who were wounded.

"It is good that the police are now making every effort to find the perpetrator as fast as possible," he added.

Baerbock wrote on X, formerly Twitter, that her thoughts were with the families and friends of the victims.

"My thanks go to the forces of law and order, who are flat out looking for the perpetrator," she wrote.


the latest news

[MTVN]

I just heard a news report saying not to speculate about the stabber, but there must to loads of CCTV as well as witnesses, they make things worse because how are people to protect themselves if they dont have at least some kind of description? He went for peoples necks so he knew what he was doing

RIP to the victims

Exactly and they were trying to suggest there wasn't much danger to the public despite him killing indiscriminately :umm2:

Probably be able to catch him quicker too

[bots]

Many other countries just don't have the CCTV coverage that we have. They consider it an invasion of privacy

[MTVN]

Many other countries just don't have the CCTV coverage that we have. They consider it an invasion of privacy

Germans have got a proud tradition of respecting privacy :unsure:

[bots]

Germans have got a proud tradition of respecting privacy :unsure:

they do these days

[arista]

The Terrorist is aged 15


Live : Germany on the news


Typical Police
not saying is he German

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1827220523526340608/t0QyycMq?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

Police Confirm the Terrorist attacked
their Necks with his dagger

[arista]

4 are in Critical Danger
in Hospital

Police Confirmed.

[bots]

15 year old terrorist

[arista]

15 year old terrorist


Not liking the Festival of Diversity.


Police are looking at the Video.

[arista]

The Wuppertal , Germany
Live Police Conference was slow 40mins
and has now concluded

[Nicky91]

The Wuppertal , Germnay
Live Police Conference was slow 40mins
and has now concluded

APef5zYgQRE

the link to that press conference

[arista]

Nicky No Good it is in German

We are GB

[arista]

…I don’t know if fake internet/Twitter is going to be the thing now as this could be following in a similar path as the Southport attack did with false information building online ….




Yes that was an attack in 2021
when a migrant knifed people.

CH4HDnews confirmed it was fake.

[arista]

Ch4HDnews reported
the Murdered three are
a 56-year-old lady

And 2 men aged 57 & 67

[Ammi]

…the police have detained a 15yr old boy but he isn’t the attacker, though…the attacker is still out there…

[Ammi]

A 15 year old boy has been detained by German police after three people were killed in a mass stabbing at a diversity festival - but the perpetrator is still at large.

A large-scale manhunt was launched last night for the suspect, who started attacking people shortly after 9.30pm on Friday as thousands gathered at the central square in Solingen, west Germany, for a festival to mark the city’s 650th anniversary.

The detained 15-year-old was seen speaking with the perpetrator of the attack moments before it was carried out, police said in a press conference this afternoon.

Police are questioning the teenage boy, as the manhunt for the perpetrator - believed to be a man - continues.

Counterterrorism officer Markus Caspers said an investigation into the motive is ongoing, but that the “overall circumstances” show that terrorism “cannot be ruled out”.

The three people who died were a 67-year-old man, a 56-year-old man and a 56-year-old woman. Eight people were injured, including four “very seriously”.

KEY POINTS

Perpetrator is still on the run, despite arrest of 15-year-old

15 year old arrested in connection with Solingen stabbing attack, police say

Terrorism motive not ruled out according to police

Chancellor calls for attacker to face full force of the law

DJ reveals he was told to keep playing to avoid ‘mass panic’

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/germany-festival-stabbing-latest-manhunt-075959758.html

[Ammi]

…this is from another media report…

‘It is not known if the 15-year-old was the attacker. German media have reported that the teenager is suspected of speaking to the attacker prior to the incident.’

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/aug/24/germany-festival-attack-solingen-dead-injured-latest-updates

[Ammi]

…and from the Independant…



Specialist policing units are scouring the German city of Solingen, as a knife attacker who killed three in a mass stabbing remains on the run.

A large-scale manhunt was launched last night for the suspect, who started attacking people shortly after 9.30pm on Friday as thousands gathered at the central square in Solingen, west Germany, for a festival to mark the city’s 650th anniversary.

On Saturday, special police units joined the search for an unknown knifeman.

‘A 15 year old boy has been detained after he was seen speaking with the perpetrator of the attack moments before it was carried out, police said in a press conference this afternoon.

Police are questioning the teenage boy, as the hunt for the perpetrator - believed to be a man - continues.’


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/crime/germany-stabbing-solingen-knife-attack-diversity-festival-b2601300.html

[arista]

…the police have detained a 15yr old boy but he isn’t the attacker, though…the attacker is still out there…


Title Changed again.

[MTVN]

Pathetic German police not keeping the public properly informed. What a shambles

[Oliver_W]

Pathetic German police not keeping the public properly informed. What a shambles

While I'm not saying every suspect should have their identity publicly profiled, (deliberately?) hiding even a description of the attackers in suspected terror attacks is what stokes "speculation."

[Ammi]

Germany festival stabbings: Islamic State 'claims responsibility' as 15-year-old detained…


Islamic State has claimed responsibility for a stabbing at a festival which left three people dead - and revealed a 15-year-old has been detained in connection with the incident.

A security source told the IS-affiliated media arm Amaq Agency that the suspect "was a soldier from the Islamic State, and he carried it out as revenge against Muslims in Palestine and everywhere."

The group did not provide any evidence supporting its claims.

Meanwhile, the teenager arrested is suspected of failing "to report an imminent crime" but no more at the moment, police and prosecutors said at a news conference on Saturday afternoon.

They are investigating the possibility he may have spoken to the attacker.

Prosecutor Markus Caspers said authorities are still looking into motives and searching for a male perpetrator, as a "large-scale" overnight manhunt involving several police forces and special units continues.

There is no clear link between the people who were attacked, authorities said - one of the reasons why terrorism cannot be ruled out.

A 56-year-old woman and two men, aged 56 and 67, died following the attack. Eight people were injured, four seriously, while "many other people have suffered mental stress".

On Saturday evening, officers said they were conducting an operation to access a building housing asylum seekers in Solingen as part of their investigation.

"We have received tips and therefore we are currently conducting police activities," a force spokesperson said.


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/germany-festival-stabbings-person-detained-084000169.html

[Ninastar]

15 years old? What the ****. And he managed to get away for a bit? Jesus

I’m sick of these events happening. How many more innocent people need to be murdered by the same old story

Feel bad for the victims families and I hope the ppl in the hospital recover

[Cherie]

15 years old? What the ****. And he managed to get away for a bit? Jesus

I’m sick of these events happening. How many more innocent people need to be murdered by the same old story

Feel bad for the victims families and I hope the ppl in the hospital recover

The 15 year old is not the attacker, they believe he knew the attack was going to be carried out

[rusticgal]

A 15 year old boy being held responsible for not reporting an imminent attack seems a bit harsh…he probably didn’t know what to think…:shrug:

[bots]

the police have raided a refugee centre and arrested someone else

[Oliver_W]

A 15 year old boy being held responsible for not reporting an imminent attack seems a bit harsh…he probably didn’t know what to think…:shrug:

People are cheering on people being jailed for shouting, so I'm sure they'll agree with this as well.

[arista]

2nd Person arrested


The man was in a refugee centre
in Germany.

[arista]

ISIS has claimed responsibility
for this stabbing.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/24/police-appeal-for-tips-from-public-to-help-track-solingen-stabber-germany


https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/germany-solingen-festival-attack-1.7303920

[Ammi]

German stabbing suspect is 26-year-old Syrian man who admitted to the crime…

FRANKFURT, Aug 25 (Reuters) - The suspect in custody for a stabbing rampage in the western German city of Solingen that killed three people and injured eight is a 26-year-old Syrian man, authorities said early on Sunday.
The suspect turned himself in and admitted to the crime, Duesseldorf police and prosecutors said in a joint statement.
"The involvement of this person is currently under intensive investigation," they said.
The details provide a somewhat fuller picture of an account late on Saturday by a state official who announced on German television the arrest of the man that authorities had been searching for in the 24 hours since the attack.

The attack, for which the Islamic State group claimed responsibility, occurred on Friday evening at a festival to celebrate the city's 650-year history.



https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/german-stabbing-suspect-is-26-year-old-man-who-admitted-crime-police-say-2024-08-25/



…it’s such a relief to know that he’s in custody now and unable to harm anyone else…

[Beso]

German stabbing suspect is 26-year-old Syrian man who admitted to the crime…

FRANKFURT, Aug 25 (Reuters) - The suspect in custody for a stabbing rampage in the western German city of Solingen that killed three people and injured eight is a 26-year-old Syrian man, authorities said early on Sunday.
The suspect turned himself in and admitted to the crime, Duesseldorf police and prosecutors said in a joint statement.
"The involvement of this person is currently under intensive investigation," they said.
The details provide a somewhat fuller picture of an account late on Saturday by a state official who announced on German television the arrest of the man that authorities had been searching for in the 24 hours since the attack.

The attack, for which the Islamic State group claimed responsibility, occurred on Friday evening at a festival to celebrate the city's 650-year history.



https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/german-stabbing-suspect-is-26-year-old-man-who-admitted-crime-police-say-2024-08-25/



…it’s such a relief to know that he’s in custody now and unable to harm anyone else…


It's not a relief at all, in fact it's more worrying than ever, that this man is an ISIS fighter, and also an immigrant who I'm assuming made the same trip as the 100s of thousands that we have in our country now.

[Nicky91]

https://www.dw.com/en/germany-wants-to-get-tough-on-knife-crime-with-stricter-laws/a-69963224

Germany wants to get tough on knife crime with stricter laws


A knife attack in the city of Solingen on Friday night has refocussed attention on Germany's laws regulating the carrying of knives in public. "It is clear to me that our security services must have more powers to detect such perpetrators early on, especially in the digital space," the deputy chairman of the Social Democratic Party (SPD) parliamentary group, Dirk Wiese, told the Rheinische Post newspaper on Saturday. "We also need to finally make progress on knife bans."

Earlier this month, the German government promised tougher knife laws after the police reported a rise in the number of stabbings, especially near train stations — though the statistics remain controversial.

Interior Minister Nancy Faeser (SPD) called for the law to be changed so that only blades of 6 centimeters (2.36 inches) would be allowed to be carried in public, rather than the current 12 centimeters. An exception would be made for household knives in their original packaging. Switchblades would be banned altogether.

"Knives are used to commit brutal acts of violence that can cause serious injury or death," Faeser told the ARD public broadcaster in early August. "We need tougher weapons laws and stricter controls."

The government pronouncement came after police statistics recorded a 9.7% year-on-year rise in cases of serious bodily harm involving a knife, with 8,951 incidents in 2023. The federal police, which is responsible for safety at Germany's airports and major railway stations, also reported a significant increase in knife attacks in and around stations, with 430 in the first six months of this year.

Controversial stats
But the police have only been collecting knife crime statistics since 2021, and criminologists are wary of defining the latest figures as a trend. Dirk Baier, a German criminologist at the Institute of Delinquency and Crime Prevention in Zurich, said Germany really doesn't have much data on knife crime at all.

"The police includes both knife attacks that were carried out and threats with knives, so it's a very vague category," he told DW. "And it's only been a short while, so the numbers aren't really reliable."

That hasn't stopped the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) from using the numbers to suggest that the country's "migration policy" was to blame. "We have exploding foreign crime, youth crime, migrant violence, because we have open borders," AfD co-leader Alice Weidel told public broadcaster ZDF in July.

Meanwhile, the German media has become increasingly interested in knife crime in the past few months, following the killing in May of a policeman in Mannheim by an Afghan refugee, in what appears to have been an Islamist motivated attack on an anti-Islamist activist.

But criminologists don't see a link between violent crime and immigrant background. Though non-Germans are disproportionately represented in police knife crime statistics, that in itself is not a very helpful insight, argued Baier.

"If we look closer at the group of non-Germans, we find very different groups of people: There are Eastern Europeans, North Africans, we have South Americans, we have people of Arab background," he said. "Those are very different cultures, so we can't say there's anything like a specific 'knife' culture, or an ethnic background that has a direct connection to carrying knives."

"We really need to talk less about the country they came from, but the circumstances of their lives," he added. "In what milieus do they grow up? Among which friends, that they think it's important to carry knives? What's their educational background? We need to look at their social circumstances, and not get stuck on nationality."

How to police knife crime?
Given this, Baier is skeptical that Faeser's law will make much difference in the long term. Nevertheless, he argued that it might at least simplify Germany's legislation, which is currently very complicated, as each state has its own rules about what kinds of knives are and aren't allowed.

"It's a good signal, so to speak," he said. "But if you're looking for the benefit in terms of preventing knife crime, then I would say that it has no benefit." People who carry dangerous knives will continue to do so, whether they are legal or not, Baier argued.

That speaks to the more immediate problem of how to police possible attacks in the first place. Lars Wendland, chairperson of the German police union GdP, welcomed Faeser's proposal in principle, but argued that police needed more than just a legal change to work effectively. "What use is a tightening of the law if we can't enforce it?" he told DW. "We also have to look at whether we have the personnel and material to implement it."

Wendland thinks facial recognition surveillance and allowing the police to carry out random checks in certain "no weapons zones" would be a good start. But those measures haven't been mentioned by Faeser yet — and it's doubtful that they would even be within her remit, since designating such zones is typically the job of local governments.

No weapons zones have been introduced in certain German cities, and while there is little evidence that they actually led to a reduction in violent crime, according to Baier, they do appear to make people feel safer. "There have been scientific studies on no weapons zones in Leipzig and Wiesbaden — both have shown that criminality hasn't dropped noticeably. But populations felt more safety. I think that's most probably because more police were around," he said.

Knife crime has become a major issue elsewhere in Europe, especially in the United Kingdom, where the government also introduced new bans on large bladed weapons late last year.


https://static.dw.com/image/69963476_906.jpg

in Cologne they have these no weapon zones for example

[arista]

It's not a relief at all, in fact it's more worrying than ever, that this man is an ISIS fighter, and also an immigrant who I'm assuming made the same trip as the 100s of thousands that we have in our country have.

Valid Points.

We could have the same.


Evil ISIS

[Nicky91]

anyone can commit these attacks with knives, not only ISIS terrorists


we need more of these no weapon zones, indeed that they need to be stricter, every country in the world needs to be stricter to prevent more of these attacks

[Ammi]

…I don’t know if this report/article is correct but it states that the police didn’t locate the attacker…he turned himself in….and had also been arrested before so lots of questions for the German authorities …

https://www.alaskasnewssource.com/2024/08/25/german-police-say-26-year-old-man-has-turned-himself-claiming-be-solingen-knife-attacker/

[Cherie]

…I don’t know if this report/article is correct but it states that the police didn’t locate the attacker…he turned himself in….and had also been arrested before so lots of questions for the German authorities …

https://www.alaskasnewssource.com/2024/08/25/german-police-say-26-year-old-man-has-turned-himself-claiming-be-solingen-knife-attacker/

It said he had turned himself in the first article you posted

[Nicky91]

an ISIS terrorist who turns himself in


doesn't make that much sense, or does it?



most terrorists don't want to end up caught, unless this dude here was just recently ''recruited/hired''

[Ammi]

It said he had turned himself in the first article you posted

…ooops, so it did…early morning haziness, I reckon…

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/25/14/88911221-0-image-m-32_1724592516582.jpg

The Terrorist has been Charged with Murder



[The Syrian national Issa Al H is accused
of being "a member of a terrorist organisation abroad",
saying he shares the "ideology of Islamic State" (IS).]

https://news.sky.com/story/german-prosecutors-name-and-charge-suspect-after-three-people-were-killed-at-festival-13202925

[bots]

It's not a relief at all, in fact it's more worrying than ever, that this man is an ISIS fighter, and also an immigrant who I'm assuming made the same trip as the 100s of thousands that we have in our country now.

well, with that attitude, you may as well stay at home and never go out again until all foreign blood is removed from the land

[Beso]

well, with that attitude, you may as well stay at home and never go out again until all foreign blood is removed from the land



You can judge that fact I've posted whatever way you want.

My opinion.. Its worrying, and should be addressed immediately by our government. It's a pity they are to busy welching on pensioners and locking up people with true concerns about who us actually arriving illegally by boat.

If you prefer sweeping stuff like that ander the carpet to look good on an internet forum, well, that is your issue, and not mine.

[arista]

The AfD last night
stated when they get full power
all Syrians, Iraquis and Afghans
will all be sent back.

Any now there
will now will only get a bed,
water and
soap.



Ch4HDnews Report last night in Germany