Kate and Vanessa's travels...Liverpool and London baby yeah next

[Kate!]

Update.

So we are off to Liverpool again, confirmed on the 11th December to see the Rock n Roll pantomime Rapunzel. Staying over at a lovely hotel by the Albert Dock. The Christmas Market will be on in the city centre. I'm so excited.

Next year in April I'm more than likely travelling to London, I wanted to go to Vanessa this time as she has travelled to me each visit so far. It is not set in stone yet as we'll need to assess finances after Christmas but it's looking quite possible atm.

The show in London we'd be seeing is called Now That's What I Call A Musical and it stars Nina Wadia (Eastenders Zainab) and Sonia (80s popular and UK Eurovision entry) It's all 80s music which we both absolutely love.

It's truly lovely to have things to look forward to.

[Ammi]

…we’re loving your style, ladies…:love:…it’s giving Patsy and Eddie in the city…fabulous…:love:…

[Cherie]

aw you two, its lovely to see your friendship thrive

[Kate!]

…we’re loving your style, ladies…:love:…it’s giving Patsy and Eddie in the city…fabulous…:love:…

aw you two, its lovely to see your friendship thrive

I've always seen myself as a Patsy lol.

Lovely comments ladies. This is why I love you so much.

[Benjamin]

…we’re loving your style, ladies…:love:…it’s giving Patsy and Eddie in the city…fabulous…:love:…

It’s giving Effel and Dot.


:dog:

[Benjamin]

That musical sounds fun though!

[Kate!]

It’s giving Effel and Dot.


:dog:

That musical sounds fun though!

:joker: and you're little Willie.

And yes the musical sounds really great. I'm almost wishing time away waiting for it.

[AnnieK]

Sounds fab ladies

[Kate!]

Only 3 more sleeps till we go!

:amazed:

[Ammi]

…two more sleeps, an exciting week for the ladies…:love:…

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[Kate!]

…two more sleeps, an exciting week for the ladies…:love:…

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I had a very disturbed night. Bad dream. I was on the Titanic and then I was in the water with no safety jacket! I woke up before I drowned phew!

[Ammi]

I had a very disturbed night. Bad dream. I was on the Titanic and then I was in the water with no safety jacket! I woke up before I drowned phew!

Such dreams can symbolise that you are facing significant challenges or changes in your life. You may feel like you are "in over your head" with responsibilities or situations that seem unmanageable. These could include work-related stress, personal relationships, or major life transitions. The sensation of drowning in a dream can be a metaphor for how these challenges are consuming your energy and attention, making it difficult for you to stay afloat.

…I don’t know if any of that would apply…/…I was just reading it on a site…

[Cherie]

Exciting, never been to Liverpool ...

[Kate!]

It could apply yes Ammi. Not in a major way but yes it makes sense. I'm virtually running the household now, Karl's mum can't do as much as she used to so I take care of it all. Yes it's a challenge but I feel I'm doing well and yet it can be overwhelming a bit trying to remember and juggling everything.

Thank you xx Pigeon Lady

[Kate!]

Exciting, never been to Liverpool ...

Oh it's really excellent Cherie. Loads to see, huge amount of shops, street markets etc. If you look for deals hotels can be very reasonable and it has a massive library with exhibits, museums and a few Theatres. 3 train stations. It's an experience. And the Albert Dock with the ferry port and plenty of bars etc.

Could stay for more than 1 night easily and not get bored.

[Ammi]

It could apply yes Ammi. Not in a major way but yes it makes sense. I'm virtually running the household now, Karl's mum can't do as much as she used to so I take care of it all. Yes it's a challenge but I feel I'm doing well and yet it can be overwhelming a bit trying to remember and juggling everything.

Thank you xx Pigeon Lady

…I’m sure that you’re doing wonderfully, Kate…but everything doesn’t always have to be juggled…some things can be put aside and wait …self care is the most important thing, otherwise the overwhelming can just envelope it all…take time for yourself to make sure that you’re replenishing your energy levels…both physically and emotionally…Liverpool will hopefully help that a lot…:love:…

[Cherie]

Oh it's really excellent Cherie. Loads to see, huge amount of shops, street markets etc. If you look for deals hotels can be very reasonable and it has a massive library with exhibits, museums and a few Theatres. 3 train stations. It's an experience. And the Albert Dock with the ferry port and plenty of bars etc.

Could stay for more than 1 night easily and not get bored.

When my girl friends came last weekend they pointed out that trains go directly from Norwich to Liverpool so we might have to have a weekend away...:cheer2:

[Kate!]

…I’m sure that you’re doing wonderfully, Kate…but everything doesn’t always have to be juggled…some things can be put aside and wait …self care is the most important thing, otherwise the overwhelming can just envelope it all…take time for yourself to make sure that you’re replenishing your energy levels…both physically and emotionally…Liverpool will hopefully help that a lot…:love:…

Yes an occasional break is lovely Ammi. I don't go for long but when I do Karl steps in. I'm lucky in that respect. I'm just so glad we still have his mum at 83 years of age and she's so lovely. I get on with her very well, she made me welcome from the start. I'd known her a couple of years before I moved in. We took her out in the wheelchair for the first time a few days ago when the weather was decent and she loved it. Life's.little pleasures.

[Cherie]

It could apply yes Ammi. Not in a major way but yes it makes sense. I'm virtually running the household now, Karl's mum can't do as much as she used to so I take care of it all. Yes it's a challenge but I feel I'm doing well and yet it can be overwhelming a bit trying to remember and juggling everything.

Thank you xx Pigeon Lady

Having a routine can help, a washing day, a food shop day, a cleaning day ... a day to yourself day :laugh:

[Kate!]

When my girl friends came last weekend they pointed out that trains go directly from Norwich to Liverpool so we might have to have a weekend away...:cheer2:

I'd highly recommend it. I can give you recommendations hotel wise and eating out if you like if you decide to go.

[Cherie]

I'd highly recommend it. I can give you recommendations hotel wise and eating out if you like if you decide to go.

Thank you will take you up on that sometime Kate xx

[Ammi]

When my girl friends came last weekend they pointed out that trains go directly from Norwich to Liverpool so we might have to have a weekend away...:cheer2:

…living close to Norwich is just the best thing, isn’t it…it’s the gateway to the world, I’m thinking…plus lovely sparkly Christmas decorations/lights in the centre…:love:…

[Kate!]

Having a routine can help, a washing day, a food shop day, a cleaning day ... a day to yourself day :laugh:

I tend to do a bit of all of those every couple of days and I do still manage some me time. I'm quite organised now I've been doing it for a while. Thank you Cherie for that. Routine is good. Ironing is the only chore I'm not fond of but I do it little and often to keep on top. The overwhelming part is mainly if we ever lost Joan.

[Ammi]

Yes an occasional break is lovely Ammi. I don't go for long but when I do Karl steps in. I'm lucky in that respect. I'm just so glad we still have his mum at 83 years of age and she's so lovely. I get on with her very well, she made me welcome from the start. I'd known her a couple of years before I moved in. We took her out in the wheelchair for the first time a few days ago when the weather was decent and she loved it. Life's.little pleasures.

…when my mother in law answers her phone…(…she’s in her 90’s…)…she always says…’hello darling, I’m still alive…!!!!!!’….Im glad that Karl’s mom likes her wheelchair, she’ll be able to be a part of so much more than she was before…

[Kate!]

…when my mother in law answers her phone…(…she’s in her 90’s…)…she always says…’hello darling, I’m still alive…!!!!!!’….Im glad that Karl’s mom likes her wheelchair, she’ll be able t9 be a part of so much more than she was before…

Yes, she didn't have much of a life when she couldn't get out anymore. Even taking stuff out to the wheelie bin is hard for her so I do all that.

[Kate!]

Thank you will take you up on that sometime Kate xx

Yes please do. Anytime at all. I'd love for you to experience the city. Have you ever been to Chester? Oh and in Liverpool they also have ChinaTown area.

[Ammi]

Yes, she didn't have much of a life when she couldn't get out anymore. Even taking stuff out to the wheelie bin is hard for her so I do all that.

…only two more sleeps to go now so focus on taking some time for yourself each of those days…just to totally chill, there are so many self relaxation things to try on YouTube, if you look…but make that a part of your routine for whatever time period you can…we don’t want a Titanic type drowning scene with you and Vanessa in Liverpool…:laugh:…seriously, take some time for you over the next few days and try to make that part of your routine going forward…

[Kate!]

…only two more sleeps to go now so focus on taking some time for yourself each of those days…just to totally chill, there are so many self relaxation things to try on YouTube, if you look…but make that a part of your routine for whatever time period you can…we don’t want a Titanic type drowning scene with you and Vanessa in Liverpool…:laugh:…seriously, take some time for you over the next few days and try to make that part of your routine going forward…

I will Ammi.

I'd just like to also say that I don't half appreciate the support I get on here from people, you and Cherie being two of them. It's lovely.

I feel I now have motivation to get up in a morning, usually between 5.30 and 6am to do breakfasts etc. There's always a chance for an hours nap mid morning. Before I lived here because I'd lost Josh I was alone and my time was hard to fill. When I was with Josh until 2014 I was depressed most of the time before I got sorted with medication and counselling that went back to Josh's dad and the abusive relationship and later my mums death. So I wasn't doing much housework etc and yes I probably emotionally didn't support Josh enough either looking back. He had to grow up so quickly. He did turn into a fine young man though so I must have done something right.

[Ammi]

I will Ammi.

I'd just like to also say that I don't half appreciate the support I get on here from people, you and Cherie being two of them. It's lovely.

I feel I now have motivation to get up in a morning, usually between 5.30 and 6am to do breakfasts etc. There's always a chance for an hours nap mid morning. Before I lived here because I'd lost Josh I was alone and my time was hard to fill. When I was with Josh until 2014 I was depressed most of the time before I got sorted with medication and counselling that went back to Josh's dad and the abusive relationship and later my mums death. So I wasn't doing much housework etc and yes I probably emotionally didn't support Josh enough either looking back. He had to grow up so quickly. He did turn into a fine young man though so I must have done something right.

…I think that it sounds as though you supported him as much as you were able to at the time, Kate…it’s that self care again, isn’t it though…if we don’t preserve anything in ourselves, then there is little to give to others…as you say, your balance is there more now because you have your routine and focus more etc…but to try to think of it still as a ‘work in progress’ because the more that you have those other focuses in caring for others, than the more energy you need so more self care…it really is about keeping that balance…if you use more then you need more, you know…Liverpool and your time with Vanessa will really help, I think…have the best time and Vanessa is a great person to help that to happen also…:love:…

[Kate!]

…I think that it sounds as though you supported him as much as you were able to at the time, Kate…it’s that self care again, isn’t it though…if we don’t preserve anything in ourselves, then there is little to give to others…as you say, your balance is there more now because you have your routine and focus more etc…but to try to think of it still as a ‘work in progress’ because the more that you have those other focuses in caring for others, than the more energy you need so more self care…it really is about keeping that balance…if you use more then you need more, you know…Liverpool and your time with Vanessa will really help, I think…have the best time and Vanessa is a great person to help that to happen also…:love:…

Yes that's soooo true about Santa's NaughtiNess

Every moment spent with her is a pleasure. She's just so lovely. We have very similar tastes and get on like a house on fire. She's so warm funny and enthusiastic. I'm proud to call her my friend :love: I value our times together cos they go so fast.

[Ammi]

Yes that's soooo true about Santa's NaughtiNess

Every moment spent with her is a pleasure. She's just so lovely. We have very similar tastes and get on like a house on fire. She's so warm funny and enthusiastic. I'm proud to call her my friend :love: I value our times together cos they go so fast.

…:love:…

[Kate!]

2 sleeps :amazed:

[Ammi]

…one more sleep ladies until your special leave pass from TiBB begins…:love:…


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[Kate!]

…one more sleep ladies until your special leave pass from TiBB begins…:love:…


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:cheer: I've been up half the night watching Coronation Street episodes I've missed. Just now cooked our breakfast and am having my first hot drink of the day and some bacon.

My bag is ready to be packed later. Clothes are ready.

Meeting Ness at 1.17pm tomorrow at Liverpool Lime Street station. My train gets in 10 minutes before so I'll be there to greet her.

Soooo excited. X

[Ammi]

:cheer: I've been up half the night watching Coronation Street episodes I've missed. Just now cooked our breakfast and am having my first hot drink of the day and some bacon.

My bag is ready to be packed later. Clothes are ready.

Meeting Ness at 1.17pm tomorrow at Liverpool Lime Street station. My train gets in 10 minutes before so I'll be there to greet her.

Soooo excited. X

….awwww, try to focus on your routine today as much as you can so that you don’t burst with excitement before the actual meet up…:laugh:…

[Kate!]

….awwww, try to focus on your routine today as much as you can so that you don’t burst with excitement before the actual meet up…:laugh:…

Lol Ammi. I'll go pop like a balloon when I get up tomorrow morning!

[Ammi]

Lol Ammi. I'll go pop like a balloon when I get up tomorrow morning!

…we’ll let Vanessa know to not have any sharp objects in her luggage…:laugh:…

[Kate!]

…we’ll let Vanessa know to not have any sharp objects in her luggage…:laugh:…

:laugh: omigosh!

Lovely Karl is doing the shopping this morning so I can have the day at home. Love him. I did most of the chores yesterday, there's not much to do today except cooking.

[Ammi]

:laugh: omigosh!

Lovely Karl is doing the shopping this morning so I can have the day at home. Love him. I did most of the chores yesterday, there's not much to do today except cooking.

…I can’t imagine what type of food/cooking you’ll do today with your excitement levels and thinking of your break away…that in itself might be a life highlight for you all…:laugh:..

[Kate!]

…I can’t imagine what type of food/cooking you’ll do today with your excitement levels and thinking of your break away…that in itself might be a life highlight for you all…:laugh:..

I have half a bottle of rose wine that I'm going to drink tonight. I don't drink while we are away out of respect to Vanessa cos she's 100% teetotal. It doesn't bother me. :hee:

[Benjamin]

I have half a bottle of rose wine that I'm going to drink tonight. I don't drink while we are away out of respect to Vanessa cos she's 100% teetotal. It doesn't bother me. :hee:

Hit those mocktails . Some are divine.

[Kate!]

Hit those mocktails . Some are divine.

Oh yes I totally forgot about that option! Thank you indeed. I'll treat us.

[Vanessa]

Yes that's soooo true about Santa's NaughtiNess

Every moment spent with her is a pleasure. She's just so lovely. We have very similar tastes and get on like a house on fire. She's so warm funny and enthusiastic. I'm proud to call her my friend :love: I value our times together cos they go so fast.

Aw thank you. Likewise

[Vanessa]

I love Liverpool. Excited to see the show and the Christmas markets.
As a massive Beatles fan I'm always excited to be there.

[Vanessa]

I have half a bottle of rose wine that I'm going to drink tonight. I don't drink while we are away out of respect to Vanessa cos she's 100% teetotal. It doesn't bother me. :hee:

I take some medication. I don't drink because I'm always worried in case it interferes. But I don't really enjoy it.
If they are non alcoholic cocktails I'll have one. :blush:

[Benjamin]

I take some medication. I don't drink because I'm always worried in case it interferes. But I don't really enjoy it.
If they are non alcoholic cocktails I'll have one. :blush:

They make some glorious mocktails nowadays.

[Niamh.]

Have you eaten here Kate, I went there the last time I was in Liverpool, great choice and atmosphere


https://www.balticmarket.co.uk/our-traders/

[Vanessa]

Have you eaten here Kate, I went there the last time I was in Liverpool, great choice and atmosphere


https://www.balticmarket.co.uk/our-traders/

That sounds good. We'll definitely check it out.

[Niamh.]

That sounds good. We'll definitely check it out.

:love:

[Kate!]

Oh! ChristmasNeeve that looks and sounds amazing.

We are gonna go there on Thursday for lunch.

[Kate!]

Packing my overnight bag now.

[Niamh.]

Oh! ChristmasNeeve that looks and sounds amazing.

We are gonna go there on Thursday for lunch.

Enjoy :love:

[Kate!]

Enjoy :love:

I'll let you know in here what we thought. I'm sure it'll be great.

[Niamh.]

I'll let you know in here what we thought. I'm sure it'll be great.

I really liked it anyway, so much choice, the food is great and there's a good atmosphere

[Kate!]

I really liked it anyway, so much choice, the food is great and there's a good atmosphere

I've had a read up and we'll be spoilt for choice. Might get a side dish and then the icecream from the dessert place. Is there much in the way of seating?

[Niamh.]

I've had a read up and we'll be spoilt for choice. Might get a side dish and then the icecream from the dessert place.

There was 4 of us when I went so we did a mix up of a few different places, it's nice to be able to have a pick off a few dishes

[Ammi]

Packing my overnight bag now.

…excite…:amazed:…

[Kate!]

…excite…:amazed:…

All packed now. Sooooo excited. I won't sleep lol.

[arista]

Have you eaten here Kate, I went there the last time I was in Liverpool, great choice and atmosphere


https://www.balticmarket.co.uk/our-traders/


Nice choice of Fresh Pizza's

[Ammi]

…you had a fabulous evening at the show, ladies…?…

[Kate!]

…you had a fabulous evening at the show, ladies…?…

Good morning Ammi...and everyone. Sorry we didn't post last night but we had such a great time, and were very tired after having so much fun. Long day but so so worth it.

The panto stars were all absolutely brilliant, lots of great music and dancing, with a funny plot. I'll never look at Rapunzel in the same light again.

Hotel was utterly gorgeous. Spotlessly clean. Nice and warm but not too much. Beds very comfy. Decent size private bathroom with shower. A bar in the hotel as well, it's beautifully decorated for Christmas. Staff very pleasant and helpful. I'll be giving a good review for sure and I'd certainly recommend it to Cherie Christmas

Weather OK, bit chilly but dry so that was fine too.

Sad to be going home today, but was an overall great experience.

Vanessa loved it too, she was impressed with her first ever pantomime. And yes we got water thrown at us!!

Just going to Wetherspoons for our breakfast.

Catch up later xx

[Ammi]

Good morning Ammi...and everyone. Sorry we didn't post last night but we had such a great time, and were very tired after having so much fun. Long day but so so worth it.

The panto stars were all absolutely brilliant, lots of great music and dancing, with a funny plot. I'll never look at Rapunzel in the same light again.

Hotel was utterly gorgeous. Spotlessly clean. Nice and warm but not too much. Beds very comfy. Decent size private bathroom with shower. A bar in the hotel as well, it's beautifully decorated for Christmas. Staff very pleasant and helpful. I'll be giving a good review for sure and I'd certainly recommend it to Cherie Christmas

Weather OK, bit chilly but dry so that was fine too.

Sad to be going home today, but was an overall great experience.

Vanessa loved it too, she was impressed with her first ever pantomime. And yes we got water thrown at us!!

Just going to Wetherspoons for our breakfast.

Catch up later xx



…:lovedup:…that’s just everything you wanted and hoped for, then…there’s nothing really to add….safe journey home…:love:.. it’ll be less of a train journey and more flying on wings, I reckon…

[Kate!]

…:lovedup:…that’s just everything you wanted and hoped for, then…there’s nothing really to add….safe journey home…:love:.. it’ll be less of a train journey and more flying on wings, I reckon…

My trains were fine but Vanessa's were cancelled both ways, travelling here and also her home journey due to lack of staff. So she'll get refunded for the inconvenience.

[Ammi]

My trains were fine but Vanessa's were cancelled both ways, travelling here and also her home journey due to lack of staff. So she'll get refunded for the inconvenience.

…ahhhh, I’m so sorry for your journey, Vanessa and how difficult it’s being for you…I hope that you’re able to have some very restful time when you get home…:hug:…

[Vanessa]

We're in Wetherspoon. Really enjoyed that panto, it was so much fun.
We're off to look at the shops before we go.
My trains both got cancelled :fist:, but luckily I can get the next one.

[Ammi]

We're in Wetherspoon. Really enjoyed that panto, it was so much fun.
We're off to look at the shops before we go.
My trains both got cancelled :fist:, but luckily I can get the next one.

…always a bright side with you, Vanessa…:flutter:…I’m going to call you Vanessa Brightside…

[Benjamin]

We're in Wetherspoon. Really enjoyed that panto, it was so much fun.
We're off to look at the shops before we go.
My trains both got cancelled :fist:, but luckily I can get the next one.

It’s a sign you should look at the shops before heading home. ;)

[Beso]

We're in Wetherspoon. Really enjoyed that panto, it was so much fun.
We're off to look at the shops before we go.
My trains both got cancelled :fist:, but luckily I can get the next one.

Mak sure to demand 1st class

[Kate!]

We're in McDonalds then heading to the train station in plenty of time.

[Kate!]

I'm on my train. Departing in 6 minutes.

[Ammi]

I'm on my train. Departing in 6 minutes.

…:love:…and another KatNess production in your memory store….

[Kate!]

…:love:…and another KatNess production in your memory store….

:love: I'll see her again early next year I think.

My feet are hurting lol.

Ness's train is only at 3.33pm.

[Vanessa]

My train has been cancelled, but I was able to change my booking and get on another train. Such a relief!
Apart from the travel nightmare this has been a fantastic trip. Always love seeing Kate. I love her company and Liverpool is always stunning.
They have a wonderful Christmas market as well.

[Kate!]

My train has been cancelled, but I was able to change my booking and get on another train. Such a relief!
Apart from the travel nightmare this has been a fantastic trip. Always love seeing Kate. I love her company and Liverpool is always stunning.
They have a wonderful Christmas market as well.

Ahh ditto Ness. We'll plan another after Christmas...April maybe.

[Vanessa]

Im so tired. We'll sleep well tonight. lol

[Kate!]

Im so tired. We'll sleep well tonight. lol

Yass!

I've just cooked tea. I'm not having any, I'm stuffed!

[Vanessa]

My phone crashed. Had to do a full reset. Working fine now, thank god!