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Niamh.
09-04-2025, 02:59 PM
Mickey Rourke gets pulled into the Diary Room during tonight's episode of Celebrity Big Brother following a series of homophobic remarks towards TikTik sensation JoJo Siwa
Mickey Rourke has been issued a formal warning by Big Brother just days after moving into the house.
The Hollywood actor was pulled into the Diary Room by bosses following a series of homophobic remarks towards 21-year-old housemate JoJo Siwa.
During Wednesday's (April 9) episode, the Hollywood actor asks US sensation JoJo: "Where’s the smoke room? Where’s the cigarette room?
He later asks: "Do you like girls or boys?" JoJo replies "Me? Girls. My partner is non-binary." Mickey says to JoJo: "If I stay longer than four days, you won’t be gay anymore."
JoJo says: "I can guarantee I’ll still be gay and I’ll still be in a very happy relationship." In the garden, Mickey asks Chris Hughes if everyone has to vote one another out of the house.
Mickey says "I’m going to vote the lesbian out real quick." JoJo overhears and says: "That’s homophobic, if that was your reasoning." Former Love Island star Chris interjects: "You can’t do that Mickey."
Mickey then says: "I need a fag" and then gestures to JoJo and says: "I’m not talking to you." Chris responds: "Mickey, you can’t say that" but the actor says: "I know. I was talking about a cigarette."
JoJo is left upset by the exchange and is comforted by Chris. Shortly after the exchange in the garden, Big Brother calls Mickey to the Diary Room.
Big Brother says: "Mickey before you entered the Big Brother house the rules regarding unacceptable language and behaviour were explained to you. Mickey, do you understand how this language could be offensive to your Housemates or the viewing public?"
Mickey says: "Yeah I think so. If I was saying it in a nasty kind of way or if I truly meant it."
Big Brother says "Mickey, Big Brother thinks your language was offensive and unacceptable." Mickey agrees: "Alright. I can understand that."
Big Brother says: "As a result, Big Brother is giving you a formal warning. Further language or behaviour of this nature could lead to you being removed from the Big Brother house. Mickey, do you understand?” Mickey says: "Yes I do. It’s some serious stuff. I apologise. I don’t have dishonourable intentions.
https://www.ok.co.uk/tv/breaking-celebrity-big-brothers-mickey-35025121
Livia
09-04-2025, 03:02 PM
Angling for a quick exit without losing his fee.
….’if I stay more than 4 days, you won’t be gay anymore…’…was enough…but then there was more…
Niamh.
09-04-2025, 03:04 PM
Angling for a quick exit without losing his fee.
Wouldn't he lose his fee if he got kicked out for a rule break?
Livia
09-04-2025, 03:06 PM
Wouldn't he lose his fee if he got kicked out for a rule break?
I guess it would depend on what's in the contract he signed.
Jessica.
09-04-2025, 03:06 PM
….’if I stay more than 4 days, you won’t be gay anymore…’…was enough…but then there was more…
It's like he has plans of something he wants to do to her, very scary and predatory, she's only 21!!!
…I personally don’t think that he’s angling for anything…this is him, unfiltered and uncut and just not realising acceptable/unacceptable/respecting boundaries etc…
vesavius
09-04-2025, 03:07 PM
OK, fair enough :joker::joker:
He was clearly joking, but part of a joke is reading the room and making sure everyone is in on it and that you are laughing with them and not at them.
The warning was deserved. TBH, he got off really lightly considering what others have been evicted for in the past.
Niamh.
09-04-2025, 03:09 PM
OK, fair enough :joker::joker:
He was clearly joking, but part of a joke is reading the room and making sure everyone is in on it and that you are laughing with them and not at them.
The warning was deserved. TBH, he got off really lightly considering what others have been evicted for in the past.
Well it shows you that bigger stars get more special treatment for sure (not that we ever doubted that but you know)
Livia
09-04-2025, 03:09 PM
OK, fair enough :joker::joker:
He was clearly joking, but part of a joke is reading the room and making sure everyone is in on it and that you are laughing with them and not at them.
The warning was deserved. TBH, he got off really lightly considering what others have been evicted for in the past.
You cannot joke with the thin skinned. The warning was a gift for BB after trying to spin the "it's not all about you" remark and failing.
Jessica.
09-04-2025, 03:10 PM
Well it shows you that bigger stars get more special treatment for sure (not that we ever doubted that but you know)
Ya, I was thinking in civilian BB the contestant would be straight out the back door!
vesavius
09-04-2025, 03:10 PM
You cannot joke with the thin skinned. The warning was a gift for BB after trying to spin the "it's not all about you" remark and failing.
True
OK, fair enough :joker::joker:
He was clearly joking, but part of a joke is reading the room and making sure everyone is in on it and that you are laughing with them and not at them.
The warning was deserved. TBH, he got off really lightly considering what others have been evicted for in the past.
…I agree with all of that, I’m not sure if he was joking or not, though…but at worst, I think that he’s very confused and unclear of ‘acceptable’…he has though accepted that and not questioned it and if he stays…?…I think he has a bit of a journey…
Niamh.
09-04-2025, 03:11 PM
Ya, I was thinking in civilian BB the contestant would be straight out the back door!
Yeah definitely
Well it shows you that bigger stars get more special treatment for sure (not that we ever doubted that but you know)
…they were never going to let him go, he trends higher than Donald Trump atm…:laugh:..
vesavius
09-04-2025, 03:12 PM
Well it shows you that bigger stars get more special treatment for sure (not that we ever doubted that but you know)
Yeah true, plus he probably has cost them a LOT of money already.
They know this will blow up in the papers/ socials and they know people will tune in to hate watch him and wait for his next slip up. It's such a gift, they aren't gonna throw it away too soon.
Kate!
09-04-2025, 03:13 PM
My first instincts were correct. He's an asshole.
Niamh.
09-04-2025, 03:15 PM
…they were never going to let him go, he trends higher than Donald Trump atm…:laugh:..
:laugh:
Yeah true, plus he probably has cost them a LOT of money already.
They know this will blow up in the papers/ socials and they know people will tune in to hate watch him and wait for his next slip up. It's such a gift, they aren't gonna throw it away too soon.
Yeah, I bet he does get thrown out eventually though, when they've got their moneys worth :laugh:
Yeah true, plus he probably has cost them a LOT of money already.
They know this will blow up in the papers/ socials and they know people will tune in to hate watch him and wait for his next slip up. It's such a gift, they aren't gonna throw it away too soon.
…no, he’s not going anywhere until he’s voted out …but even then, there may be ‘BB intervention’ from time to time to protect him from the public vote…
Cherie
09-04-2025, 03:17 PM
Wonder if he will still use his Guardian Angel power on Jo Jo :laugh:
Vanessa
09-04-2025, 03:18 PM
Wonder if he will still use his Guardian Angel power on Jo Jo :laugh:
I thought he picked Danny?
it's predictable, but he is from my generation with the addition of no filter, the producers would have known what they were getting before he went in
Vanessa
09-04-2025, 03:23 PM
it's predictable, but he is from my generation with the addition of no filter, the producers would have known what they were getting before he went in
That my feeling, he has no filter.
But it's good he apologized.
Niamh.
09-04-2025, 03:23 PM
Oh also as a side point he also broke the "no discussing noms" rule
Vanessa
09-04-2025, 03:24 PM
Oh also as a side point he also broke the "no discussing noms" rule
I think a few of them did. Wonder if they'll be pulled up on it.
Yeah he wont recover from this. It's just a payday for him though, i doubt he'll care after he leaves.
they will probably give him the scooter and tell him to **** off :laugh:
they will probably give him the scooter and tell him to **** off :laugh:
…and he’ll be a happy chap…
Yeah he wont recover from this. It's just a payday for him though, i doubt he'll care after he leaves.
…and something that he maybe thought would kick start some acting roles that he’s hoping for…but it really isn’t something that I think will do that…
Livia
09-04-2025, 03:30 PM
Why they bother I just don't know. They should maybe just fill up the house with the usual vacuous and vanilla influencers, reality stars and models.
Why they bother I just don't know. They should maybe just fill up the house with the usual vacuous and vanilla influencers, reality stars and models.
i think that's the real problem with BB these days, people can't be themselves, warts and all, so it's fake before they step in the door
Benjamin
09-04-2025, 03:36 PM
You cannot joke with the thin skinned. The warning was a gift for BB after trying to spin the "it's not all about you" remark and failing.
I wouldn’t say JoJo is thin skinned. He was saying comments more than once despite people saying not to, and he still carried on.
Glenn.
09-04-2025, 03:39 PM
A homophobic creep. Shock horror
Cherie
09-04-2025, 03:42 PM
I thought he picked Danny?
Unless that was a clip on L&L its not been on the main show
Glenn.
09-04-2025, 03:42 PM
i think that's the real problem with BB these days, people can't be themselves, warts and all, so it's fake before they step in the door
They can be real. I’d say he’s being very real. It’s just his behaviour isn’t tolerated.
After this the rest of the housemates sit down with Mickey ‘in an attempt to help him understand why his comments were offensive’.
He goes on to pull JoJo aside and say: ‘I want to apologise. I’ve got a habit of having a short fuse. And I don’t mean nothing by it. I do mean it [sorry]. If I didn’t, I wouldn’t say it to you.’
Saying she ‘appreciates’ his apology, JoJo then tells Mickey: ‘Anything is ok to say in context and intention – that’s what matters. And if you say something wrong but you didn’t know and you’re open to hearing – all good!’
https://metro.co.uk/2025/04/09/celebrity-big-brother-star-mickey-rourke-issued-formal-warning-homophobia-22879849/
…I like that JoJo and Mickey straightened it out quite quickly and maturely and didn’t allow it to escalate…
…I wonder if BB said ‘apologise now, Mickey…’…like they said ‘conga now, Mickey…’…/…I’m joking, I’m sure his apology was sincere…
Vanessa
09-04-2025, 03:53 PM
After this the rest of the housemates sit down with Mickey ‘in an attempt to help him understand why his comments were offensive’.
He goes on to pull JoJo aside and say: ‘I want to apologise. I’ve got a habit of having a short fuse. And I don’t mean nothing by it. I do mean it [sorry]. If I didn’t, I wouldn’t say it to you.’
Saying she ‘appreciates’ his apology, JoJo then tells Mickey: ‘Anything is ok to say in context and intention – that’s what matters. And if you say something wrong but you didn’t know and you’re open to hearing – all good!’
https://metro.co.uk/2025/04/09/celebrity-big-brother-star-mickey-rourke-issued-formal-warning-homophobia-22879849/
…I like that JoJo and Mickey straightened it out quite quickly and maturely and didn’t allow it to escalate…
…I wonder if BB said ‘apologise now, Mickey…’…like they said ‘conga now, Mickey…’…/…I’m joking, I’m sure his apology was sincere…
This is good. At least he understood why his words were offensive. I'm glad they had this chat and we will see it.
AnnieK
09-04-2025, 03:57 PM
This is good. At least he understood why his words were offensive. I'm glad they had this chat and we will see it.
I don't think he understands why it pissed her off but knows that it did if you know what I mean? It'll be interesting if he says anything else.
vesavius
09-04-2025, 03:58 PM
Saying she ‘appreciates’ his apology, JoJo then tells Mickey: ‘Anything is ok to say in context and intention – that’s what matters.'
Far more based than I thought she would be about stuff like this in all honesty.
Kudos to her.
Vanessa
09-04-2025, 03:58 PM
I don't think he understands why it pissed her off but knows that it did if you know what I mean? It'll be interesting if he says anything else.
He 72. He probably doesn't understand it, but knows he upset JoJo that's why he apologized.
Far more based than I thought she would be about stuff like this in all honesty.
Kudos to her.
…yeah, kudos to both of them tbh…so far I’m very impressed with JoJo as this is the first I’ve know of her…she addressed the teeth brushing thing as well without it escalating as these things often do A La BB….
AnnieK
09-04-2025, 04:06 PM
He 72. He probably doesn't understand it, but knows he upset JoJo that's why he apologized.
Yes 100%
They'll move on and hopefully all will be good between them
Crimson Dynamo
09-04-2025, 04:21 PM
The thread title is in inaccurate
He did not get a warning for homophobic remarks
He got a warning for offensive and unacceptable language
I think I have that correct. If so could the title be changed
Glenn.
09-04-2025, 04:25 PM
He was homophobic hence the offensive and unacceptable language. You know that
Crimson Dynamo
09-04-2025, 04:28 PM
He was homophobic hence the offensive and unacceptable language. You know that
You are incorrect, read what BB said.
https://x.com/bigblagger/status/1909981045459501286?t=BB0T90dDPtXC5x0TQAxYxg&s=19
Glenn.
09-04-2025, 04:59 PM
You are incorrect, read what BB said.
https://x.com/bigblagger/status/1909981045459501286?t=BB0T90dDPtXC5x0TQAxYxg&s=19
Which is what they say about any kind of homophobia and racism.
It’s a weird flex to be downplaying it. We all know why though.
Strictly Jake
09-04-2025, 05:07 PM
Oh huge surprise that he would be in trouble already. He will be out before Friday.
Oh huge surprise that he would be in trouble already. He will be out before Friday.
Maybe he got the message and will be more careful ??
arista
09-04-2025, 05:14 PM
It was bound to happen.
Crimson Dynamo
09-04-2025, 07:20 PM
oh look its not been amended
:rolleyes:
Glenn.
09-04-2025, 07:36 PM
Doesn’t need to be :pipe:
Vanessa
09-04-2025, 07:38 PM
Maybe he got the message and will be more careful ??
Yes i hope so. He's very old fashioned in mentality, he probably doesn't understand it.
But I don't think he would want to upset someone.
BBDodge
09-04-2025, 07:42 PM
Which is what they say about any kind of homophobia and racism.
It’s a weird flex to be downplaying it. We all know why though.
BBC rules have always defined unacceptable behaviour to include:
Behaving in a way that could cause serious offence to either their fellow Housemates or members of the viewing public (including serious offence based on the grounds of age, disability, gender, race, religion, beliefs or sexual orientation).
Anyway, he clearly broke the rules. The other housemates knew that immediately. The warning was inevitable. Will he take heed or like Biggins just carry on and get himself removed via the backdoor.
Glenn.
09-04-2025, 07:44 PM
Yes i hope so. He's very old fashioned in mentality, he probably doesn't understand it.
But I don't think he would want to upset someone.
The same excuse all of the time.
He hasn’t been in a coma for the last 30yrs and woke up today. The only way that excuse would make sense and be excusable. Attitudes have changed. He was there when they did.
Vanessa
09-04-2025, 07:47 PM
The same excuse all of the time.
He hasn’t been in a coma for the last 30yrs and woke up today. The only way that excuse would make sense and be excusable. Attitudes have changed. He was there when they did.
He did wrong and he apologized. That's the way I see it.
Glenn.
09-04-2025, 07:48 PM
You excused his behaviour also.
Glad he apologised.
Vanessa
09-04-2025, 07:51 PM
You excused his behaviour also.
Glad he apologised.
I said he did wrong. You can think what you want
Glenn.
09-04-2025, 07:53 PM
Yes i hope so. He's very old fashioned in mentality, he probably doesn't understand it.
But I don't think he would want to upset someone.
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The excuse.
The same excuse all of the time.
He hasn’t been in a coma for the last 30yrs and woke up today. The only way that excuse would make sense and be excusable. Attitudes have changed. He was there when they did.
Attitudes on TV have changed. TV is not the real world.
We had very little words back in the day that described all these new sexualities weve to learn, and also all these new mental illnesses.
Unless he was being antagonistic and deliberate he's just using words he is used to.
Something that's funny though..you can't call a woman a fag hag anymore. Not because you could be insulting the woman, but because it's insulting a man.
Crazy times, people should be forgiven for getting things wrong sometimes.
The sexual innuendos though...nah. That's a bit much at his age.
Vanessa
09-04-2025, 07:55 PM
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The excuse.
Urgh there's no point discussing anything with you
Vanessa
09-04-2025, 07:57 PM
Attitudes on TV have changed. TV is not the real world.
We had very little words back in the day that described all these new sexualities weve to learn, and also all these new mental illnesses.
Unless he was being antagonistic and deliberate he's just using words he is used to.
Something that's funny though..you can't call a woman a fag hag anymore. Not because you could be insulting the woman, but because it's insulting a man.
Crazy times, people should be forgiven for getting things wrong sometimes.
The sexual innuendos though...nah. That's a bit much at his age.
We will have to wait and see tonight.
Glenn.
09-04-2025, 07:58 PM
Attitudes on TV have changed. TV is not the real world.
We had very little words back in the day that described all these new sexualities weve to learn, and also all these new mental illnesses.
Unless he was being antagonistic and deliberate he's just using words he is used to.
Something that's funny though..you can't call a woman a fag hag anymore. Not because you could be insulting the woman, but because it's insulting a man.
Crazy times, people should be forgiven for getting things wrong sometimes.
The sexual innuendos though...nah. That's a bit much at his age.
Still the same excuse. You can’t use the excuse of they’re old fashioned. No. They lived it the same as everyone else.
Do you know what a fag hag is?
It’s very much used in society by the people who reclaimed it from the heterosexual morons who used it as a slur.
Glenn.
09-04-2025, 07:59 PM
Urgh there's no point discussing anything with you
Well not for you in this instance because you’re in the wrong a tad.
Great, you admitted he was in the wrong, but you excused the behaviour.
It’s giving, “I’m not homophobic…but…”
Still the same excuse. You can’t use the excuse of they’re old fashioned. No. They lived it the same as everyone else.
Do you know what a fag hag is?
It’s very much used in society by the people who reclaimed it from the heterosexual morons who used it as a slur.
Oh, you want to talk now.
Yes I know what a fag hag was, what is It now
Vanessa
09-04-2025, 08:00 PM
Well not for you in this instance because you’re in the wrong a tad.
Great, you admitted he was in the wrong, but you excused the behaviour.
It’s giving, “I’m not homophobic…but…”
I said he did wrong. I'm not getting involved in any name calling.
Glenn.
09-04-2025, 08:01 PM
Oh, you want to talk now.
Yes I know what a fag hag was
Still the same thing
Glenn.
09-04-2025, 08:01 PM
I said he did wrong. I'm not getting involved in any name calling.
Who’s calling you names?
Still the same thing
Can men be one too? Cause I'm one if they can.:blush:
Still the same excuse. You can’t use the excuse of they’re old fashioned. No. They lived it the same as everyone else.
Do you know what a fag hag is?
It’s very much used in society by the people who reclaimed it from the heterosexual morons who used it as a slur.
Seriously, you are talking nonsense. If you have had decades of certain behaviour being fine and then it's not, it's very difficult to change that mindset if not impossible. Most people have a filter that stops them saying things, but as you get older, that filter disappears. Thats a fact
Glenn.
09-04-2025, 08:05 PM
Seriously, you are talking nonsense. If you have had decades of certain behaviour being fine and then it's not, it's very difficult to change that mindset if not impossible. Most people have a filter that stops them saying things, but as you get older, that filter disappears. Thats a fact
If people haven’t adjusted to the changing times and norms then they don’t want to. Simple as.
Wasn't it the girls and their gay friends who coined the phrase originally. Ie, what the gay guy would jokingly call all the girls?
That was my understanding of it in the late 80s early 90s.:shrug:
Glenn.
09-04-2025, 08:06 PM
Can men be one too? Cause I'm one if they can.:blush:
No because a fag hag is a heterosexual female who spends a lot of time with gay men.
Are you a heterosexual female?
Vanessa
09-04-2025, 08:07 PM
Seriously, you are talking nonsense. If you have had decades of certain behaviour being fine and then it's not, it's very difficult to change that mindset if not impossible. Most people have a filter that stops them saying things, but as you get older, that filter disappears. Thats a fact
That's exactly what I meant. Very well put :clap1:
Wow all three of those comments are pretty bad but particularly the last one. Would definitely be kicked out in the civilian series
Bear in mind that Americans just don't use 'fag' for cigarettes so that's pretty deliberate
Glenn.
09-04-2025, 08:22 PM
Bear in mind that Americans just don't use 'fag' for cigarettes so that's pretty deliberate
I just said this my other half
He mis read things. He has his guardian angel thing use. He is planning to use it on her. (Or Daley:fist:)He was being matey, thinking Jojo wouldn't mind the banter. 2 Americans being American, in Britain. No malice intended, and more the viewer being angry than anyone involved.
Oliver_W
09-04-2025, 08:35 PM
Oh, you want to talk now.
Yes I know what a fag hag was, what is It now
Fruity Flies :love:
Benjamin
09-04-2025, 09:10 PM
I think it says more about Jojo with how she was with it when he apologised more than anything. I honestly hadn’t rated her much and had my negative expectations of her, and she’s not hitting those expectations in a good way. Pleasantly surprised with her.
…(…I think…)…that Chris also has looked good through it all in the way that he tried to stop Mickey throughout but Mickey kept on going and going…he was very supportive late with JoJo as well…
Why they bother I just don't know. They should maybe just fill up the house with the usual vacuous and vanilla influencers, reality stars and models.
I'm surprised the cast hasn't just become at least 50% Youtubers and Instagram folk. There's got be enough unbusted egos on both those platforms to really set the fireworks off... it's not like many of the names they have now are more well-known to the target demographic.
Attitudes on TV have changed. TV is not the real world.
It's not? :laugh:
Bear in mind that Americans just don't use 'fag' for cigarettes so that's pretty deliberate
"Fag" is often used as a synonym to a complete idiot, someone who acts so ridiculous it's incredibly annoying and aggravating... but in this context, he's certainly using it for homosexuality. The former definition was used really heavily in the 90s among the young. So it has a non-sexual connotation on the side... but it's certainly always an insult. So it's entirely possible he not only insulted her sexuality, but also her mentality.
I think it says more about Jojo with how she was with it when he apologized more than anything. I honestly hadn’t rated her much and had my negative expectations of her, and she’s not hitting those expectations in a good way. Pleasantly surprised with her.
Her mask really slipped, I think. Her comment in the diary room along the lines where she said "I think what you have to do in the Big Brother house is care for others" ... she's been there 1 day.
Jessica.
09-04-2025, 09:21 PM
I think it says more about Jojo with how she was with it when he apologised more than anything. I honestly hadn’t rated her much and had my negative expectations of her, and she’s not hitting those expectations in a good way. Pleasantly surprised with her.
She handled it so well!
Benjamin
09-04-2025, 09:25 PM
Her mask really slipped, I think. Her comment in the diary room along the lines where she said "I think what you have to do in the Big Brother house is care for others" ... she's been there 1 day.
With all due respect, that’s a weak comment. The fact people are making out she was the bad person in this says more about those people. She isn’t villainising Mickey (and she absolutely could), but she has a right to be offended.
Oliver_W
09-04-2025, 09:51 PM
"Fag" is often used as a synonym to a complete idiot, someone who acts so ridiculous it's incredibly annoying and aggravating...
Like in Fairytale of New York - when she's calling him a ******, she's obviously calling him an idiot instead of randomly deciding he's gay :laugh:
With all due respect, that’s a weak comment. The fact people are making out she was the bad person in this says more about those people. She isn’t villainising Mickey (and she absolutely could), but she has a right to be offended.
I didn't think she came out the bad person. I think that when people come into conflict, we see what turns their gears... while she is certainly in the right for calling him out on his words as she perceived it in connection to his behavior, but then she's gone further and made it about her views about how the house should be conducted and how other people should conduct themselves... I find her to be dictatorial and that's just an early impression of her, but that's completely separate from Mickey's behavior. I think he's shown himself to be an asshole and he has a condescending air when he is dealing with other people... that's not a good look, either.
I suspect both, especially being American, we tend to pick up on these little things that get under the skin more easily, especially as egos might be clashing a bit. He saw an opportunity to have a go and to say whatever is on his mind in the moment, which is more socially accepted here. She saw the opportunity to make a big statement about it, which is fine in a way, but it's not my cup of tea when others try to influence other people into how they should conduct themselves.
NICKP
09-04-2025, 09:58 PM
Mickey Rourke should've been immediately removed on Big Brother USA
Benjamin
09-04-2025, 09:58 PM
I didn't think she came out the bad person. I think that when people come into conflict, we see what turns their gears... while she is certainly in the right for calling him out on his words as she perceived it in connection to his behavior, but then she's gone further and made it about her views about how the house should be conducted and how other people should conduct themselves... I find her to be dictatorial and that's just an early impression of her, but that's completely separate from Mickey's behavior. I think he's shown himself to be an asshole and he has a condescending air when he is dealing with other people... that's not a good look, either.
I suspect both, especially being American, we tend to pick up on these little things that get under the skin more easily, especially as egos might be clashing a bit. He saw an opportunity to have a go and to say whatever is on his mind in the moment, which is more socially accepted here. She saw the opportunity to make a big statement about it, which is fine in a way, but it's not my cup of tea when others try to influence other people into how they should conduct themselves.
I apologise. Calling it a weak comment was uncalled for. I should have asked for further clarification on your view before saying that.
I apologise. Calling it a weak comment was uncalled for. I should have asked for further clarification on your view before saying that.
It's actually my fault. :laugh: I took for granted we were all just in the Live thread. It's because of the context of the comment I responded which probably made it sound like it was different kind of commentary, so I figured that was why and didn't take offense..
One thing I will say about Mickey is he is doing the typically stereotypical thing that is done by extroverts in the US... where one says things that they know push buttons, but done to such a degree (shocking) that it's a socially accepted way to find out what the other person's tolerance level is. It's almost like you're not allowed to complain because "oh of course he's not a horrible heathen.... he didn't really mean it that waaay"...
It's a way to boundary check, but it's also a way to assert one's alpha demeanor and set the terms of communication... since it'll be very quickly found out who doesn't push back on having their buttons pressed like this...
Mystic Mock
09-04-2025, 10:17 PM
Well at least the warning was understandable this time.
Unlike the stop the gloats comment last year.
Vanessa
09-04-2025, 10:18 PM
Well at least the warning was understandable this time.
Unlike the stop the gloats comment last year.
I don't remember that
Mystic Mock
09-04-2025, 10:20 PM
It's like he has plans of something he wants to do to her, very scary and predatory, she's only 21!!!
It was definitely an odd set of comments from him.
Benjamin
09-04-2025, 10:20 PM
Well at least the warning was understandable this time.
Unlike the stop the gloats comment last year.
That was honestly ridiculous and they did Sarah over with that.
Well at least the warning was understandable this time.
Unlike the stop the gloats comment last year.
I forgot about that :joker:
Just watched the whole thing .l
He was just messing and being light hearted
In my opinion there was zero malice or nastiness
Vanessa
09-04-2025, 10:37 PM
Just watched the whole thing .l
He was just messing and being light hearted
In my opinion there was zero malice or nastiness
I agree.
It's like he has plans of something he wants to do to her, very scary and predatory, she's only 21!!!
He wasn’t serious though … I don’t see how anyone can believe he was trying to upset anyone
Sure the choice of wording comes from bygone days but he’s 72 - he said it was just his sense of humour
Glenn.
09-04-2025, 10:42 PM
He said he was gonna tie up a young girl then called her a fag
He said he was gonna tie up a young girl then called her a fag
It was tongue in cheek…
Glenn.
09-04-2025, 10:43 PM
It was offensive
Mystic Mock
09-04-2025, 10:44 PM
I don't remember that
Sarah's joke that got her a warning in the last civilian series, even though there's nothing against the rules of BB or even in UK law against stop the gloats or stop the boats.
Vanessa
09-04-2025, 10:45 PM
Sarah's joke that got her a warning in the last civilian series, even though there's nothing against the rules of BB or even in UK law against stop the gloats or stop the boats.
Ah yes. That was ridiculous
Mystic Mock
09-04-2025, 10:45 PM
That was honestly ridiculous and they did Sarah over with that.
The production resented her presence after she got precious Dean evicted for being a knob.
letmein
10-04-2025, 12:27 AM
I'm surprised the cast hasn't just become at least 50% Youtubers and Instagram folk. There's got be enough unbusted egos on both those platforms to really set the fireworks off... it's not like many of the names they have now are more well-known to the target demographic.
It's not? :laugh:
"Fag" is often used as a synonym to a complete idiot, someone who acts so ridiculous it's incredibly annoying and aggravating... but in this context, he's certainly using it for homosexuality. The former definition was used really heavily in the 90s among the young. So it has a non-sexual connotation on the side... but it's certainly always an insult. So it's entirely possible he not only insulted her sexuality, but also her mentality.
Her mask really slipped, I think. Her comment in the diary room along the lines where she said "I think what you have to do in the Big Brother house is care for others" ... she's been there 1 day.
No, fag is not used in a non-homophobic way in the US. It’s a big no-no, period. It doesn’t matter the intent. It’s homophobic, period and has a horrendous history in the US.
No, fag is not used in a non-homophobic way in the US. It’s a big no-no, period. It doesn’t matter the intent. It’s homophobic, period and has a horrendous history in the US.
That's not true. It's still used in the other non-homophobic definition even today and it's an acceptable use of it as another type of insult. Kind of like how (the n-word) is used outside of being a direct racial slur, it has a friendly, fluid use-case. Re-appropriating language for amusing effect is very American. Though how appropriate a re-appropriated interpretation can be determined by the listener, I suppose.
It's possible Mickey thought that playing around with Jojo would be more appropriate since she would know that we use fluid language. The language suddenly is less fluid in popular media in recent years, but common American English used among normal people is not treated that strictly... I've never seen anyone chewed out for using fag in the looser variant. It's usually a word that's tossed around in a joking manner among friends... though Mickey was using it in a way that was not casual like that and using the slur variant to press buttons...
…tbf, I’ve read many comments on other sites…(…comments from American people…)…and the overwhelming vibe seems to be that it’s a much outdated British expression for a cigarette and this was an American using the term to another American so it felt very intentional in its slur…
…tbf, I’ve read many comments on other sites…(…comments from American people…)…and the overwhelming vibe seems to be that it’s a much outdated British expression for a cigarette and this was an American using the term to another American so it felt very intentional in its slur…
Yes, Mickey was playing on the slur. I thought he made that pretty clear based on the chat they were having.
Fag is known here to be a cigarette in the UK because the common joke when using the word "fag", just in case the wrong person happens to hear, we were actually talking about cigarettes... etc. It's a word people like to say and use in or out of context because it sounds funny for them in conversation. In fact the connection to British cigarettes makes it cooler to some...
Yes, Mickey was playing on the slur. I thought he made that pretty clear based on the chat they were having.
Fag is known here to be a cigarette in the UK because the common joke when using the word "fag", just in case the wrong person happens to hear, we were actually talking about cigarettes... etc. It's a word people like to say and use in or out of context because it sounds funny for them in conversation. In fact the connection to British cigarettes makes it cooler to some...
…it’s interesting isn’t it, that it’s that word/slur that seems to be the main focus of that Mickey dialogue…not just as a contentious talking point but also for JoJo, it felt…?…when before that, he had said that she wouldn’t be a lesbian anymore, so basically inferring that he would have sex with her if they were there more than 4 days…and when she said that wouldn’t happen and laughed it off, he said he would tie her up….
Niamh.
10-04-2025, 07:23 AM
…it’s interesting isn’t it, that it’s that word/slut that seems to be the main focus of that Mickey dialogue…not just as a contentious talking point but also for JoJo, it felt…?…when before that, he had said that she wouldn’t be a lesbian anymore, so basically inferring that he would have sex with her if they were there more than 4 days…and when she said that wouldn’t happen and laughed it off, he said he would tie her up….Yeah, honestly that part is so creepy, worse imo
Mystic Mock
10-04-2025, 07:26 AM
…it’s interesting isn’t it, that it’s that word/slut that seems to be the main focus of that Mickey dialogue…not just as a contentious talking point but also for JoJo, it felt…?…when before that, he had said that she wouldn’t be a lesbian anymore, so basically inferring that he would have sex with her if they were there more than 4 days…and when she said that wouldn’t happen and laughed it off, he said he would tie her up….
I'm hoping that he meant that Ella or Angelica had volunteered to have Fifty Shades Of Grey styled sex with Jojo, but he got tongue tied and made himself look like the creep.:sad:
Mystic Mock
10-04-2025, 07:27 AM
Yeah, honestly that part is so creepy, worse imo
In all seriousness, I do agree with you.
…it’s interesting isn’t it, that it’s that word/slur that seems to be the main focus of that Mickey dialogue…not just as a contentious talking point but also for JoJo, it felt…?…when before that, he had said that she wouldn’t be a lesbian anymore, so basically inferring that he would have sex with her if they were there more than 4 days…and when she said that wouldn’t happen and laughed it off, he said he would tie her up….
I thought that was going to be the warning initially because he was basically discussing converting someone potentially against their will, using ropes(!).
i still believe it all started as a joke, and when people said you can't say that he became more and more defensive which is why it ended up where it did
i still believe it all started as a joke, and when people said you can't say that he became more and more defensive which is why it ended up where it did
It was so obviously a joke, I don't think many are in doubt of that. The real trouble arose when he apologised or was attempting to, and she tried to further explain to him why she found it so offensive, which he then seemed to take as her twisting the knife further and lording it over him. That's when things went way off the rails for them both.
Jessica.
10-04-2025, 07:58 AM
Jokes can still be bullying, jokes can still be homophobic, jokes can still be predatory. It was a joke to HIM. Other people smiled with discomfort and out of shock but zero of the others laughed with him. Age or fame doesn't give anyone a free pass for anything, people should only be respected if they respect others.
you have just defined a joke, not everyone finds it funny, thats the way it works
Mystic Mock
10-04-2025, 08:04 AM
Jokes can still be bullying, jokes can still be homophobic, jokes can still be predatory. It was a joke to HIM. Other people smiled with discomfort and out of shock but zero of the others laughed with him. Age or fame doesn't give anyone a free pass for anything, people should only be respected if they respect others.
Tbf jokes are fine imo, it's the other persons problem if they're getting offended by a joke I personally feel.
I personally do doubt if Mickey was really joking though, I suspect that he was looking for a reaction from Jojo, but it escalated further than he was expecting.
I think that Mickey is trying to be the troll of the Season.:laugh:
…the thing with ‘jokes’ is that they have to be a two way thing…what’s intended and what’s taken…and JoJo was upset/in tears after the interaction because for her it wasn’t a joke…there are lots of layers/levels of it that wouldn’t have been a joke for many people, I think…and there was something said on the late show that was very thought provocative of it all…that from the LGBT community, lesbian’s can be targeted so much and are so vulnerable…JoJo had said that she would still be a lesbian and that she would still be in a relationship with her partner etc…so if we took away the fact that she was a lesbian…?…and Mickey had inferred that he would have sex with her and tie her up even for that to happen…?…would it be acceptable to say that to a female in an established relationship, would that be ok and just a jokey thing also…joking or not, he had a warning because his words were unacceptable, whatever level they came from…
…even if it was intended as a ‘joke’, he did let it slip that he didn’t like JoJo and JoJo was the one who he decided to lay that joke with…it feels that whether he intended to offend or not…?…he really had no care that he did because it was directed at someone that he didn’t like very much…
Jessica.
10-04-2025, 08:20 AM
…the thing with ‘jokes’ is that they have to be a two way thing…what’s intended and what’s taken…and JoJo was upset/in tears after the interaction because for her it wasn’t a joke…there are lots of layers/levels of it that wouldn’t have been a joke for many people, I think…and there was something said on the late show that was very thought provocative of it all…that from the LGBT community, lesbian’s can be targeted so much and are so vulnerable…JoJo had said that she would still be a lesbian and that she would still be in a relationship with her partner etc…so if we took away the fact that she was a lesbian…?…and Mickey had inferred that he would have sex with her and tie her up even for that to happen…?…would it be acceptable to say that to a female in an established relationship, would that be ok and just a jokey thing also…joking or not, he had a warning because his words were unacceptable, whatever level they came from…
The whole reason he started it was because she said she liked girls so he wouldn't say it about a straight girl. You could see him seething the second she answered his question.
Crimson Dynamo
10-04-2025, 08:25 AM
The whole reason he started it was because she said she liked girls so he wouldn't say it about a straight girl. You could see him seething the second she answered his question.
You definitely cant see him seething as his face is so botoxed and plastic it shows no visible sign of emotion
Jessica.
10-04-2025, 08:27 AM
You definitely cant see him seething as his face is so botoxed and plastic it shows no visible sign of emotion
I'll tag you in a clip of it if I have free time tonight.
Mystic Mock
10-04-2025, 08:33 AM
…the thing with ‘jokes’ is that they have to be a two way thing…what’s intended and what’s taken…and JoJo was upset/in tears after the interaction because for her it wasn’t a joke…there are lots of layers/levels of it that wouldn’t have been a joke for many people, I think…and there was something said on the late show that was very thought provocative of it all…that from the LGBT community, lesbian’s can be targeted so much and are so vulnerable…JoJo had said that she would still be a lesbian and that she would still be in a relationship with her partner etc…so if we took away the fact that she was a lesbian…?…and Mickey had inferred that he would have sex with her and tie her up even for that to happen…?…would it be acceptable to say that to a female in an established relationship, would that be ok and just a jokey thing also…joking or not, he had a warning because his words were unacceptable, whatever level they came from…
Oh if he was joking then I personally didn't find it funny.
But I just do have my doubts on if that was his intention to begin with.
I'm hoping that he meant that Ella or Angelica had volunteered to have Fifty Shades Of Grey styled sex with Jojo, but he got tongue tied and made himself look like the creep.:sad:
It was all said tongue in cheek ( as he explained later ) plus he was smiling all the time
I think it was probably just his sense of humour that didn’t quite hit the mark
Then that comment suggesting that he could turn her given a few more days is something straight guys have always said jokingly to or about lesbians .. its that old fashioned / outdated style of humour
Vanessa
10-04-2025, 08:43 AM
He was definitely joking, you can see him laughing.He probably got angry as well and things escalated.
Then he apologized.
I don't think they see eye to eye.
It was so obviously a joke, I don't think many are in doubt of that. The real trouble arose when he apologised or was attempting to, and she tried to further explain to him why she found it so offensive, which he then seemed to take as her twisting the knife further and lording it over him. That's when things went way off the rails for them both.
Yes THAT is the moment it really went downhill .. he could/should have handled the situation far better
That said we don’t know his mindset at that moment .. he had just been given a serious shock / warning by BB … he was presumably upset / annoyed/ confused / jet lagged / anxious being surrounded by everyone and maybe if JoJo had waited an hour or so to ‘educate’ him then things could have been soooo different
It was all said tongue in cheek ( as he explained later ) plus he was smiling all the time
I think it was probably just his sense of humour that didn’t quite hit the mark
Then that comment suggesting that he could turn her given a few more days is something straight guys have always said jokingly to or about lesbians .. its that old fashioned / outdated style of humour
…that sort of ‘humour’ is something that you would have to know someone very well to know how they would take it and that it wouldn’t offend…he not only doesn’t know JoJo but inferred that he wasn’t keen on her …and if you’re saying that it’s something that’s specifically said about lesbians…?…then it’s targeting and it’s prejudice and there’s no two ways with that so a warning was absolutely the correct call…
Glenn.
10-04-2025, 08:49 AM
He was definitely joking, you can see him laughing.He probably got angry as well and things escalated.
Then he apologized.
I don't think they see eye to eye.
By using offensive language repeatedly.
I could call you the idiot of TiBB and say “I’m only joking”
Would you be okay with that?
Jokes can still be bullying, jokes can still be homophobic, jokes can still be predatory. It was a joke to HIM. Other people smiled with discomfort and out of shock but zero of the others laughed with him. Age or fame doesn't give anyone a free pass for anything, people should only be respected if they respect others.
But look how RESPECTFUL he was towards Trish in an earlier conversation .. he was very attentive and interested even thoughtful enough to make sure she had someone in her life to help out …
Tbf jokes are fine imo, it's the other persons problem if they're getting offended by a joke I personally feel.
I personally do doubt if Mickey was really joking though, I suspect that he was looking for a reaction from Jojo, but it escalated further than he was expecting.
I think that Mickey is trying to be the troll of the Season.:laugh:
He did admit that he occasionally says things to get a reaction but I don’t think he’s got a cruel heart
…even if it was intended as a ‘joke’, he did let it slip that he didn’t like JoJo and JoJo was the one who he decided to lay that joke with…it feels that whether he intended to offend or not…?…he really had no care that he did because it was directed at someone that he didn’t like very much…
Everything had blown up out of proportion by then though PLUS he’d had a couple of people telling him that he couldn’t say this or that .. he himself may have felt intimidated at that time
He was definitely joking, you can see him laughing.He probably got angry as well and things escalated.
Then he apologized.
I don't think they see eye to eye.
Yes we tend to forget that we see about 20 minutes out of 24 hours each day so we miss all the other interactions
Yes THAT is the moment it really went downhill .. he could/should have handled the situation far better
That said we don’t know his mindset at that moment .. he had just been given a serious shock / warning by BB … he was presumably upset / annoyed/ confused / jet lagged / anxious being surrounded by everyone and maybe if JoJo had waited an hour or so to ‘educate’ him then things could have been soooo different
…maybe if he had waited until he and JoJo knew each other well and ensure that she realised that he was joking…everything stemmed from that and his words and interaction that made her feel upset and uncomfortable and she would also be upset, annoyed, confused, jet lagged and anxious in that moment…
…that sort of ‘humour’ is something that you would have to know someone very well to know how they would take it and that it wouldn’t offend…he not only doesn’t know JoJo but inferred that he wasn’t keen on her …and if you’re saying that it’s something that’s specifically said about lesbians…?…then it’s targeting and it’s prejudice and there’s no two ways with that so a warning was absolutely the correct call…
You are assuming he’s a straight forward character living a normal life style and will behave accordingly
It is clear that he is far from that
Everything had blown up out of proportion by then though PLUS he’d had a couple of people telling him that he couldn’t say this or that .. he himself may have felt intimidated at that time
…the people who ‘blew it’ were BB because they gave him an official warning for his own behaviour …that was the proportion that was felt warranted in terms of his own interaction and words…
You are assuming he’s a straight forward character living a normal life style and will behave accordingly
It is clear that he is far from that
…I’m assuming nothing, Zizu…I know nothing of him or his lifestyle etc but that doesn’t change anything of what was said…I’m not sure if you’re assuming that it would or does but I’m not…
Glenn.
10-04-2025, 09:05 AM
It’s a sorry state of affairs when you have people defending homophobia.
…maybe if he had waited until he and JoJo knew each other well and ensure that she realised that he was joking…everything stemmed from that and his words and interaction that made her feel upset and uncomfortable and she would also be upset, annoyed, confused, jet lagged and anxious in that moment…
Part of me wonders why such a confident, supposedly high achieving, flamboyant person was apparently made to feel upset and uncomfortable .. over a few tongue in cheek comments
…I’m assuming nothing, Zizu…I know nothing of him or his lifestyle etc but that doesn’t change anything of what was said…I’m not sure if you’re assuming that it would or does but I’m not…
I’m suggesting that he is an ageing , complex , severely damaged individual
I said when he went in that he was an interesting/intriguing character with violent tendencies and a short fuse
Part of me wonders why such a confident, supposedly high achieving, flamboyant person was apparently made to feel upset and uncomfortable .. over a few tongue in cheek comments
…maybe the other part of you could try to wonder why he would make the comments he did to a young woman who he has no knowledge of at all in terms of her confidence or any other aspect of her life or character…I mean, he’s confident and flamboyant Mickey Rourke, why would an hour be waited as a better time to talk to him over a few tongue and cheek comments…
…maybe the other part of you could try to wonder why he would make the comments he did to a young woman who he has no knowledge of at all in terms of her confidence or any other aspect of her life or character…I mean, he’s confident and flamboyant Mickey Rourke, why would an hour be waited as a better time to talk to him over a few tongue and cheek comments…
If we saw more than 20 minutes of footage out of every 24 hours then I could probably tell you
If we saw more than 20 minutes of footage out of every 24 hours then I could probably tell you
…and yet you didn’t need the rest of that 24 footage to wonder why someone would feel upset and uncomfortable at a directed upsetting and uncomfortable remark….
…and yet you didn’t need the rest of that 24 footage to wonder why someone would feel upset and uncomfortable at a directed upsetting and uncomfortable remark….
Completely different imho
Completely different imho
…it really isn’t, not at all….
Livia
10-04-2025, 10:03 AM
He was warned for calling her a lesbian. Is she not a lesbian?
He was so clearly joking and she's too young and stupid to know. She cried ffs... If they're the hurtiest words she ever hears I hope she never joins TiBB.
He was warned for calling her a lesbian. Is she not a lesbian?
He was so clearly joking and she's too young and stupid to know. She cried ffs... If they're the hurtiest words she ever hears I hope she never joins TiBB.
He called her a fag.
I swear some people will bend over backwards to excuse homophobia. His behaviour was completely out of line and there's no excuse that works. It's not the same as a light hearted joke at all.
For a 21 year old young woman to go into the house and just hours later be called the most extreme homophobic slur, she had every right to be upset and she actually handled the situation a lot better than the washed up bully who tried to humiliate her.
arista
10-04-2025, 10:12 AM
It was debated,
around 10:58AM on This Morning ITV1HD.
Funny having Dermot
talking about it.
a Former Big Brother long-time, host.
Livia
10-04-2025, 10:15 AM
He called her a fag.
I swear some people will bend over backwards to excuse homophobia. His behaviour was completely out of line and there's no excuse that works. It's not the same as a light hearted joke at all.
For a 21 year old young woman to go into the house and just hours later be called the most extreme homophobic slur, she had every right to be upset and she actually handled the situation a lot better than the washed up bully who tried to humiliate her.
He's American. Try to find Maru's explanation for the word 'fag', she's one of our American members. Frankly I can't be bothered to engage with this weepy, self-indulgent crap. I've been called names all my life including on thus forum. I don't need to cry on someone's shoulder.
Glenn.
10-04-2025, 10:19 AM
He called her a fag.
I swear some people will bend over backwards to excuse homophobia. His behaviour was completely out of line and there's no excuse that works. It's not the same as a light hearted joke at all.
For a 21 year old young woman to go into the house and just hours later be called the most extreme homophobic slur, she had every right to be upset and she actually handled the situation a lot better than the washed up bully who tried to humiliate her.
After she shot down his creepy conversation about tying her up and turning her straight and he realised he’d been rejected, he moved on to bullying her by talking everyone he was going to evict the lesbian, twice. Then called her fag.
But it’s ok! It was a joke!
This is the climate on TiBB now. The Right wing hate gay people and people who stick up for minorities. They will excuse anything and any behaviour if it pisses off people that they deem woke.
It’s pathetic.
Crimson Dynamo
10-04-2025, 10:21 AM
He called her a fag.
During Wednesday's (April 9) episode, the Hollywood actor asks US sensation
JoJo: "Where’s the smoke room? Where’s the cigarette room?
Mickey then says: "I need a fag" and then gestures to JoJo and says: "I’m not
talking to you." Chris responds: "Mickey, you can’t say that" but the actor says:
"I know. I was talking about a cigarette."
He was warned for calling her a lesbian. Is she not a lesbian?
He was so clearly joking and she's too young and stupid to know. She cried ffs... If they're the hurtiest words she ever hears I hope she never joins TiBB.
Something doesn’t add up .. if she is supposedly the Queen of the internet with a gazillion followers then she will have been called far , far worse and probably about a few thousand times each flamin day !
It smacks of tactics to get the others and the voting public on HER side
She is obviously very streetwise and clearly knows how these programs work
Glenn.
10-04-2025, 10:22 AM
Something doesn’t add up .. if she is supposedly the Queen of the internet with a gazillion followers then she will have been called far , far worse and probably about a few thousand times
It smacks of tactics to get the others and the voting public on HER side
She is obviously very streetwise and clearly knows how these programs work
You seem to have a hard time believing she has many followers. Perhaps a little google search for you to clarify that.
He's American. Try to find Maru's explanation for the word 'fag', she's one of our American members. Frankly I can't be bothered to engage with this weepy, self-indulgent crap. I've been called names all my life including on thus forum. I don't need to cry on someone's shoulder.
Oh, please. The mental gymnastics just to support a horrible old man's right to bully a young woman for being gay is so cringeworthy to watch. To try and use the fact he is American as some kind of excuse is laughable. He knew exactly what he was saying.
Not tolerating homophobic slurs is not "self indulgent crap" but letting us know where you stand on the matter.
Quite frankly, you being called names your entire life is irrelevant on the matter. If you were a housemate in Big Brother who had just had the rules explained to you and you were then hours later being called a fa**ot then maybe that argument would have a leg to stand on, but it doesn't.
Livia
10-04-2025, 10:26 AM
Oh, please. The mental gymnastics just to support a horrible old man's right to bully a young woman for being gay is so cringeworthy to watch. To try and use the fact he is American as some kind of excuse is laughable. He knew exactly what he was saying.
Not tolerating homophobic slurs is not "self indulgent crap" but letting us know where you stand on the matter.
Quite frankly, you being called names your entire life is irrelevant on the matter. If you were a housemate in Big Brother who had just had the rules explained to you and you were then hours later being called a fa**ot then maybe that argument would have a leg to stand on, but it doesn't.
Oh blah...
During Wednesday's (April 9) episode, the Hollywood actor asks US sensation
JoJo: "Where’s the smoke room? Where’s the cigarette room?
Mickey then says: "I need a fag" and then gestures to JoJo and says: "I’m not
talking to you." Chris responds: "Mickey, you can’t say that" but the actor says:
"I know. I was talking about a cigarette."
Yes... so he used the word "fag" and then pointed at JoJo. Maybe this requires a modicum of common sense to understand that he was using that word to refer to her. Let us know if you need any more help for this to be explained to you.
You seem to have a hard time believing she has many followers. Perhaps a little google search for you to clarify that.
I couldn’t care less about her
I didn’t care for her when she entered the BB house
Glenn.
10-04-2025, 10:27 AM
Oh blah...
:joker:
Well done Abra!
Livia
10-04-2025, 10:28 AM
During Wednesday's (April 9) episode, the Hollywood actor asks US sensation
JoJo: "Where’s the smoke room? Where’s the cigarette room?
Mickey then says: "I need a fag" and then gestures to JoJo and says: "I’m not
talking to you." Chris responds: "Mickey, you can’t say that" but the actor says:
"I know. I was talking about a cigarette."
What makes me laugh, he apologised and she accepted his apology. Then she hits him with the killer nomination saying it would be better if he went. Oh please! Don't let us be left with you and the rest of the vanilla dullards.
After she shot down his creepy conversation about tying her up and turning her straight and he realised he’d been rejected, he moved on to bullying her by talking everyone he was going to evict the lesbian, twice. Then called her fag.
But it’s ok! It was a joke!
This is the climate on TiBB now. The Right wing hate gay people and people who stick up for minorities. They will excuse anything and any behaviour if it pisses off people that they deem woke.
It’s pathetic.
Nail on the head :clap2:
Livia
10-04-2025, 10:33 AM
Something doesn’t add up .. if she is supposedly the Queen of the internet with a gazillion followers then she will have been called far , far worse and probably about a few thousand times each flamin day !
It smacks of tactics to get the others and the voting public on HER side
She is obviously very streetwise and clearly knows how these programs work
She thinks the most interesting thing about her is that she's a lesbian and was actually inviting questions. Don't most people know gay and lesbian people in the real world? Because those I know, being gay doesn't define them, it's just one facet of multi-faceted people.
Crimson Dynamo
10-04-2025, 10:36 AM
Yes... so he used the word "fag" and then pointed at JoJo. Maybe this requires a modicum of common sense to understand that he was using that word to refer to her. Let us know if you need any more help for this to be explained to you.
and he meant cigarette
so no harm done
arista
10-04-2025, 10:36 AM
He called her a fag.
I swear some people will bend over backwards to excuse homophobia. His behaviour was completely out of line and there's no excuse that works. It's not the same as a light hearted joke at all.
For a 21 year old young woman to go into the house and just hours later be called the most extreme homophobic slur, she had every right to be upset and she actually handled the situation a lot better than the washed up bully who tried to humiliate her.
Yes,
He was testing his future Warning.
I do not think it is such a big deal
Crimson Dynamo
10-04-2025, 10:37 AM
Yes,
He was testing his future Warning.
I do not think it is such a big deal
its not
Niamh.
10-04-2025, 10:41 AM
Closed for cleaning, deleting some posts in here, lets not turn this into another trans row thread when it doesn't have anything to do with the thread topic
Seems like it's ok to absolutely hammer Mickey for being old on TIBB.
:shrug:
Why we all bother I will never know:shrug:
Glenn.
10-04-2025, 11:01 AM
Seems like it's ok to absolutely hammer Mickey for being old on TIBB.
:shrug:
Why we all bother I will never know:shrug:
Incorrect. It’s because he’s homophobic
Crimson Dynamo
10-04-2025, 11:02 AM
Seems like it's ok to absolutely hammer Mickey for being old on TIBB.
:shrug:
Why we all bother I will never know:shrug:
Can you imagine how boring the show would have been had he not been there
wow :shocked:
BBDodge
10-04-2025, 11:03 AM
Seems like it's ok to absolutely hammer Mickey for being old on TIBB.
:shrug:
Why we all bother I will never know:shrug:
There are 4 OAPs in the House but only 1 who's broken BB's rules.
…Mickey’s reaction to the official warning in itself in that moment in the diary room was quite telling in that he understood immediately why he was being given the warning and even said it was understandable…there was no surprise at how something was interpreted or questioning of it at all…boy did wrong and he knew he did and accepted it…
Shaun
10-04-2025, 12:01 PM
I could've understood the "you won't be straight when you leave" line could have been meant as a weird, flirty (again inappropriate given the age difference) joke but to then go on about how he wants to evict her, tie her up, and then make the 'fag' quip was really just doubling down on the means to offend.
Crimson Dynamo
10-04-2025, 12:01 PM
In the Daily Mail article about Mickey and his misconstrued comments the best rated comment is:
"I LOVE Mickey. He is hilarious, and honestly the best CBB participant I've ever watched.
The minute he leaves, is the minute most of the viewers will leave, because we have more
exciting things to do than watch boring, woke cry-babies."
So looks like the great British Public are liking what they see, sadly they don't tend to vote as much
Benjamin
10-04-2025, 12:02 PM
Seems like it's ok to absolutely hammer Mickey for being old on TIBB.
:shrug:
Why we all bother I will never know:shrug:
It’s nothing to do with his age. It’s to do with his offensive remarks.
Benjamin
10-04-2025, 12:04 PM
In the Daily Mail article about Mickey and his misconstrued comments the best rated comment is:
"I LOVE Mickey. He is hilarious, and honestly the best CBB participant I've ever watched.
The minute he leaves, is the minute most of the viewers will leave, because we have more
exciting things to do than watch boring, woke cry-babies."
So looks like the great British Public are liking what they see, sadly they don't tend to vote as much
The great British public don’t read the Daily Mail. But nice try saying they do. ;)
Glenn.
10-04-2025, 12:10 PM
No one great reads the daily fail
In the Daily Mail article about Mickey and his misconstrued comments the best rated comment is:
"I LOVE Mickey. He is hilarious, and honestly the best CBB participant I've ever watched.
The minute he leaves, is the minute most of the viewers will leave, because we have more
exciting things to do than watch boring, woke cry-babies."
So looks like the great British Public are liking what they see, sadly they don't tend to vote as much
The fact you think that the right wing Karen's on the Daily Mail comments are representative of the British public :joker: Bless you, so naive. That echo chamber must be loud.
Mitchell
10-04-2025, 12:14 PM
I could've understood the "you won't be straight when you leave" line could have been meant as a weird, flirty (again inappropriate given the age difference) joke but to then go on about how he wants to evict her, tie her up, and then make the 'fag' quip was really just doubling down on the means to offend.
This sums up my entire opinion on the situation, until the incident, I liked Mickey as a housemate, but it was ridiculously uncomfortable to watch.
Quantum Boy
10-04-2025, 12:40 PM
This being defended is peak TiBB lol. What he said was repulsive, his age and quirks are certainly no excuse, and the gaslighting playing it down - "he only called her a lesbian" :idc: and "he meant a cigarette" just daft.
The only vague excuse I can think of that comes close to explaining it is that his brain has been rattled one too many times.
Quantum Boy
10-04-2025, 12:41 PM
It's also beyond question that a civvy BB house mate's feet wouldn't have touched the ground on the way out the back door.
Liam-
10-04-2025, 12:44 PM
The usual suspects out in force to defend blatant homophobia and attack the victim of said homophobia for how she dealt with it, shock horror
Crimson Dynamo
10-04-2025, 12:47 PM
Lets keep the thread about the topic and not members or it will be closed
Quantum Boy
10-04-2025, 12:49 PM
The usual suspects out in force to defend blatant homophobia and attack the victim of said homophobia for how she dealt with it, shock horror
I naively for a split second thought when I saw it, "no one will be able to fully defend this" but I realised that such a thought was ridiculous and of course they'd be defending it before I even logged in :joker:.
I doubt anyone thinks it was actually fine and no one would ever dream of (openly) saying what he said themselves, but of course they'll pretend to think it was fine and everyone over-reacted. Just typical culture war nonsense.
It’s nothing to do with his age. It’s to do with his offensive remarks.
Then why are people continuously mentioning it to insult him?
Crimson Dynamo
10-04-2025, 01:07 PM
Lizzie Cundy (33) has said that Mickey is a kind soul who helped her and he should be given the chance to stay in the house
She knows him
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/04/10/11/97120367-14591427-image-m-28_1744280675455.jpg
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-14591427/Mickey-Rourkes-homophobic-misogynistic-Celebrity-Big-Brother-LIZZIE-CUNDY.html
Jessica.
10-04-2025, 01:14 PM
It's also beyond question that a civvy BB house mate's feet wouldn't have touched the ground on the way out the back door.
Yeah, I was just saying that to someone yesterday, if it was civilian they would have been out the back door before the news of the homophbia/threats/bullying hit the papers.
Crimson Dynamo
10-04-2025, 01:22 PM
Jojo's partner Kate Ebbs has been abusive about the incident on social media
and has started DOXING Mickey!!
In a rant on insta she posted "no offence Mickey you look like a ********** foot so
you don't stand a chance with anyone anyway because your a ********** loser.
'He's a pig and he is a dangerous person. I wouldn't want to be alone in a
room with him and I wouldn't want ********** anyone to be alone in a room
with him.'
:shocked:
She sounds a little agressive
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/04/10/11/97114967-14591005-JoJo_Siwa_s_partner_Kath_Ebbs_has_branded_Mickey_R ourke_a_pig_an-a-31_1744282421608.jpg
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/04/10/11/97115017-14591005-While_she_praised_and_thanked_Chris_Hughes_for_bac king_her_partn-a-32_1744282421609.jpg
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/04/10/11/97115009-14591005-Kath_also_slammed_Big_Brother_for_getting_Mickey_o n_the_lineup_d-a-33_1744282421609.jpg
Livia
10-04-2025, 01:45 PM
That's a scary looking broad.
Glenn.
10-04-2025, 03:19 PM
Jojo's partner Kate Ebbs has been abusive about the incident on social media
and has started DOXING Mickey!!
In a rant on insta she posted "no offence Mickey you look like a ********** foot so
you don't stand a chance with anyone anyway because your a ********** loser.
'He's a pig and he is a dangerous person. I wouldn't want to be alone in a
room with him and I wouldn't want ********** anyone to be alone in a room
with him.'
:shocked:
She sounds a little agressive
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/04/10/11/97114967-14591005-JoJo_Siwa_s_partner_Kath_Ebbs_has_branded_Mickey_R ourke_a_pig_an-a-31_1744282421608.jpg
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/04/10/11/97115017-14591005-While_she_praised_and_thanked_Chris_Hughes_for_bac king_her_partn-a-32_1744282421609.jpg
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/04/10/11/97115009-14591005-Kath_also_slammed_Big_Brother_for_getting_Mickey_o n_the_lineup_d-a-33_1744282421609.jpg
Nothing they said is wrong and they’re just defending their partner.
Benjamin
10-04-2025, 03:26 PM
Then why are people continuously mentioning it to insult him?
Not people - person.
Most are not referring to his age.
Benjamin
10-04-2025, 03:28 PM
I naively for a split second thought when I saw it, "no one will be able to fully defend this" but I realised that such a thought was ridiculous and of course they'd be defending it before I even logged in :joker:.
I doubt anyone thinks it was actually fine and no one would ever dream of (openly) saying what he said themselves, but of course they'll pretend to think it was fine and everyone over-reacted. Just typical culture war nonsense.
Haha same. I also thought this then remembered it’s TiBB and the types of people this site has. :laugh:
Glenn.
10-04-2025, 03:30 PM
Unfortunately I knew this would be the case.
Haha same. I also thought this then remembered it’s TiBB and the types of people this site has. :laugh:
I laugh when people think this place is full of extreme views and riddled with prejudice, it's a bloody kindergarten compared to what the C4 forums where like, and 90% of all political and modern dayism debate based discord servers. :joker:
Benjamin
10-04-2025, 03:33 PM
I laugh when people think this place is full of extreme views and riddled with prejudice, it's a bloody kindergarten compared to what the C4 forums where like, and 90% of all political and modern dayism debate based discord servers. :joker:
I never said it was worse. :tongue:
But it’s not great.
Not people - person.
Most are not referring to his age.
Some, not most.
Livia
10-04-2025, 03:51 PM
Amuses me when people refer to the "types Of person" on TiBB. No one on here is all good or all bad and to pretend otherwise is laughable.
Glenn.
10-04-2025, 03:52 PM
Some, not most.
The only people I’ve seen talking about his age are the people using it as a defence of why he was homophobic.
Vanessa
10-04-2025, 04:05 PM
:worship:Amuses me when people refer to the "types Of person" on TiBB. No one on here is all good or all bad and to pretend otherwise is laughable.
I laugh when people think this place is full of extreme views and riddled with prejudice, it's a bloody kindergarten compared to what the C4 forums where like, and 90% of all political and modern dayism debate based discord servers. :joker:
We have more echo chambers now, but the much younger internet had the same complaints about being a nasty place. And there wasn't nearly as much to do on it...
Oliver_W
10-04-2025, 04:43 PM
I'm not saying this excuses the way he spoke to JoJo, but it's interesting how he doesn't seem tomind gay men - he was concerned about what pronouns to use with Danny, he complimented his drag costume to BB, and used to work in a ****** bar :joker:
It's probably a narcissism thing - he thinks gays want to sleep with him, and dislikes lesbians because they don't :laugh:
vesavius
10-04-2025, 04:49 PM
I'm not saying this excuses the way he spoke to JoJo, but it's interesting how he doesn't seem tomind gay men - he was concerned about what pronouns to use with Danny, he complimented his drag costume to BB, and used to work in a ****** bar :joker:
It's probably a narcissism thing - he thinks gays want to sleep with him, and dislikes lesbians because they don't :laugh:
Disliking one lesbian doesn't mean you dislike all lesbians.
The way that I saw it is that he made an ill-judged joke on the assumption that JoJo would be thick-skinned enough to take it and probably give it back as a bit of fun smack-talking, but when JoJo crumbled he thought **** it and doubled down.
I actually do not think he is homophobic or transphobic at all.. He seems very liberal to me, in all honesty, but just '90s liberal' and not modern 'woke liberal'.
He just tried to joke like it was the 90s still and quickly found out that doesn't work on mainstream telly any more, especially among those that do understand the medium and the BB audience base..
Glenn.
10-04-2025, 04:56 PM
You know you guys can keep saying “it was a joke” but it doesn’t wash.
Dislike one lesbian doesn't mean you dislike all lesbians.
The way that I saw it is that he mad an ill judged joke on the assumption that JoJo would be thick skinned enough to take it and probably give it back as a bit of fun smack talking, but when JoJo crumbled he thought **** it and doubled down.
I actually do not think he is homophobic or transphobic at all.. He seems very liberal to me, in all honesty, but just '90s liberal' and not modern 'woke liberal'.
He just tried to joke like it was the 90s still and quickly found out that doesn't work on mainstream telly any more, especially among those that do understand the medium and the BB audience base..
He pushed boundaries enough that it would've gone over better in the US, regardless of time period. Freedom of Expression for most takes first place in social spaces here. Ill-judged or not, people give each other a little bit more grace to "be who they are" and so some people are really accustomed to being able to say whatever comes to mind and not immediately be brought up on it... where I think he might've created a problem is in announcing who he would or wouldn't evict... some might take that as a challenge :laugh:
I've just watched it now and it was quite uncomfortable and quite deliberate. I think what made it worse is that he actually felt aggrieved at being called out on it and was patting himself on the back for not kicking off even though he was the only one at fault
Mostly I've liked Mickey from the first two eps and he should be a good housemate but it shouldn't be hard to accept he's in the wrong here
Vanessa
10-04-2025, 05:45 PM
I've just watched it now and it was quite uncomfortable and quite deliberate. I think what made it worse is that he actually felt aggrieved at being called out on it and was patting himself on the back for not kicking off even though he was the only one at fault
Mostly I've liked Mickey from the first two eps and he should be a good housemate but it shouldn't be hard to accept he's in the wrong here
Even he admitted that and apologized.
Even he admitted that and apologized.
Not sure how sincere that was. He seemed to apologise more because he thought it showed him as the bigger person rather than actually recognising he'd done anything wrong
Not sure how sincere that was. He seemed to apologise more because he thought it showed him as the bigger person rather than actually recognising he'd done anything wrong
He's stuck in his ways, and views now probably, most likely wont change at his age. But lets be fair, he wont even remember this "gig" by Christmas, just an easy payday for him.
He's stuck in his ways, and views now probably, most likely wont change at his age. But lets be fair, he wont even remember this "gig" by Christmas, just an easy payday for him.
True and the experience will probably only make him more likely to value his secluded life over this strange new world :laugh:
Vanessa
10-04-2025, 05:52 PM
Not sure how sincere that was. He seemed to apologise more because he thought it showed him as the bigger person rather than actually recognising he'd done anything wrong
He's definitely stuck in his ways, but at least he's making the effort. It's not easy at his age.
My late father was pretty much the same.
Glenn.
10-04-2025, 05:56 PM
Not sure how sincere that was. He seemed to apologise more because he thought it showed him as the bigger person rather than actually recognising he'd done anything wrong
This. As all his fans have been saying, “he’s stuck in his ways”
The apology wasn’t genuine at all.
Quantum Boy
10-04-2025, 06:34 PM
I don't think we'll be taking his age as an excuse for his "ways" when he was slapping/kicking his wife around and holding a gun to her head as a threat... 30 years ago, when he was in his early 40's.
"Allegedly".
Not sure how sincere that was. He seemed to apologise more because he thought it showed him as the bigger person rather than actually recognising he'd done anything wrong
I'm curious if he'll even remember her name after all this.
I thought he did it for her more than him since she was clearly still upset about it. I don't think he cared either way. That doesn't make it heartfelt... the way he did it was like when he gifted the blender to a total no name...
I don't think we'll be taking his age as an excuse for his "ways" when he was slapping/kicking his wife around and holding a gun to her head as a threat... 30 years ago, when he was in his early 40's.
"Allegedly".
On a side note..shoving a gun in a woman's face is one 9f Andrew tates charges.
This being defended is peak TiBB lol. What he said was repulsive, his age and quirks are certainly no excuse, and the gaslighting playing it down - "he only called her a lesbian" :idc: and "he meant a cigarette" just daft.
The only vague excuse I can think of that comes close to explaining it is that his brain has been rattled one too many times.
That is entirely feasible .. he even touched on that very point the other night
The usual suspects out in force to defend blatant homophobia and attack the victim of said homophobia for how she dealt with it, shock horror
Bollox
This. As all his fans have been saying, “he’s stuck in his ways”
The apology wasn’t genuine at all.
You are just like Mickey Glenn, completely stuck in your ways, you have absolutely no time whatsoever for people who challenge you with a differing opinion, even when perfectly reasonable. And when said person does test you, ask you a challenging question, you just reply with - :joker::joker::joker: Or call them a phobe or racist of some kind. Weak.
People are generally so open for discussion, but you hear something you don't like, you immediately resort to insults and mockery, and belittling. And of course, reminding us all of how grand and full of riches your life is. :smug:
That's a scary looking broad.
Jesus I presumed that JoJo was the one wearing the trousers in that relationship
Obviously not
Disliking one lesbian doesn't mean you dislike all lesbians.
The way that I saw it is that he made an ill-judged joke on the assumption that JoJo would be thick-skinned enough to take it and probably give it back as a bit of fun smack-talking, but when JoJo crumbled he thought **** it and doubled down.
I actually do not think he is homophobic or transphobic at all.. He seems very liberal to me, in all honesty, but just '90s liberal' and not modern 'woke liberal'.
He just tried to joke like it was the 90s still and quickly found out that doesn't work on mainstream telly any more, especially among those that do understand the medium and the BB audience base..
Perfect assessment of the situation
True and the experience will probably only make him more likely to value his secluded life over this strange new world :laugh:
Yeah .. I am only watching and it’s making me wonder about living alone
[emoji3]
Glenn.
10-04-2025, 07:22 PM
You are just like Mickey Glenn, completely stuck in your ways, you have absolutely no time whatsoever for people who challenge you with a differing opinion, even when perfectly reasonable. And when said person does test you, ask you a challenging question, you just reply with - :joker::joker::joker: Or call them a phobe or racist of some kind. Weak.
People are generally so open for discussion, but you hear something you don't like, you immediately resort to insults and mockery, and belittling. And of course, reminding us all of how grand and full of riches your life is. :smug:
Doesn’t happen a lot. Rare even. Not many intelligent people on here to debate with.
BROWN PEOPLE BAD! GAY PEOPLE BAD! TRANS PEOPLE BAD! MEGHAN MARKLE BAD! PRIDE FLAGS BAD! TRUMP GOOD! TOMMY ROBINSON GOOD! ANDREW TATE GOOD! REFORM GOOD!
This is TiBB
This. As all his fans have been saying, “he’s stuck in his ways”
The apology wasn’t genuine at all.
You can’t say the apology wasn’t genuine - we do know that he was reprimanded and warned by BB , then immediately held to task by JoJo as he came out of the diary room … he then went outside alone and came back in later to apologise ..
That suggests that the apology was indeed heartfelt .
Doesn’t happen a lot. Rare even. Not many intelligent people on here to debate with.
BROWN PEOPLE BAD! GAY PEOPLE BAD! TRANS PEOPLE BAD! MEGHAN MARKLE BAD! PRIDE FLAGS BAD! TRUMP GOOD! TOMMY ROBINSON GOOD! ANDREW TATE GOOD! REFORM GOOD!
This is TiBB
Brown people bad - No
Gay people bad - No
Trans people bad - No (trans men in sports, up for debate)
Meghan Markle bad - Yeah, she's insufferable, just like her husband
Pride flags bad - No
Trump good - Not really, but politics is funny
Tommy Robinson good - Nah, does make a good point about the Islamic pedo gangs in the UK, but on the whole, not a fan
Andrew Tate Good - No, Massive prick
Reform - Tricky one
Now, how much am a racist and phobe am i on your non existent chart?
Glenn.
10-04-2025, 07:33 PM
Brown people bad - No
Gay people bad - No
Trans people bad - No (trans men in sports, up for debate)
Meghan Markle bad - Yeah, she's insufferable, just like her husband
Pride flags bad - No
Trump good - Not really, but politics is funny
Tommy Robinson good - Nah, does make a good point about the Islamic pedo gangs in the UK, but on the whole, not a fan
Andrew Tate Good - No, Massive prick
Reform - Tricky one
Now, how much am a racist and phobe am i on your non existent chart?
When have I ever called a phobe? For the most part you’re actually an alright poster. We both know that the answers in your post would be polar opposites from certain members.
Chilltown
10-04-2025, 07:39 PM
Go Mickey! Go!
Doesn’t happen a lot. Rare even. Not many intelligent people on here to debate with.
BROWN PEOPLE BAD! GAY PEOPLE BAD! TRANS PEOPLE BAD! MEGHAN MARKLE BAD! PRIDE FLAGS BAD! TRUMP GOOD! TOMMY ROBINSON GOOD! ANDREW TATE GOOD! REFORM GOOD!
This is TiBB
Stop wasting the moderators time by having them adjust your caps.:fist:
Mystic Mock
11-04-2025, 01:49 AM
By using offensive language repeatedly.
I could call you the idiot of TiBB and say “I’m only joking”
Would you be okay with that?
Vanessa's stole my title?:bawling::fist:
Mystic Mock
11-04-2025, 02:27 AM
Can you imagine how boring the show would have been had he not been there
wow :shocked:
Tbf it's still too early to say how everyone else is going to be in terms of contribution to the series.
We're only going to watch the fourth highlight show tonight.
Mystic Mock
11-04-2025, 02:47 AM
Doesn’t happen a lot. Rare even. Not many intelligent people on here to debate with.
BROWN PEOPLE BAD! GAY PEOPLE BAD! TRANS PEOPLE BAD! MEGHAN MARKLE BAD! PRIDE FLAGS BAD! TRUMP GOOD! TOMMY ROBINSON GOOD! ANDREW TATE GOOD! REFORM GOOD!
This is TiBB
I really don't get the appeal for those four.
Especially Trump who seems to be going through Alzheimer's at the moment, hence his illogical Tariff situation.
Glenn.
11-04-2025, 05:59 AM
I really don't get the appeal for those four.
Especially Trump who seems to be going through Alzheimer's at the moment, hence his illogical Tariff situation.
It’s because the uneducated are easily led. It’s the only way people like that thrive.
Mystic Mock
11-04-2025, 06:10 AM
It’s because the uneducated are easily led. It’s the only way people like that thrive.
That's just crazy to me though tbh.
It’s because the uneducated are easily led. It’s the only way people like that thrive.
Says Mr intelligent who shoved all his eggs in with starmer
Glenn.
11-04-2025, 08:23 AM
Says Mr Intelligent who wanted…Reform
Take a seat :joker:
Crimson Dynamo
11-04-2025, 08:48 AM
This should now put this whole mountain out of a molehill to bed
"Mickey's longtime friend Kimberly Hines argued that 'old school' Mickey isn't
purposely trying to hurt or 'offend' anyone, but is merely not up to scratch with the 'politically correct vocabulary' used in 2025. "
Says Mr Intelligent who wanted…Reform
Take a seat :joker:
Keep thinking that. You are wrong, but keep thinking it.
This should now put this whole mountain out of a molehill to bed
"Mickey's longtime friend Kimberly Hines argued that 'old school' Mickey isn't
purposely trying to hurt or 'offend' anyone, but is merely not up to scratch with the 'politically correct vocabulary' used in 2025. "
That makes perfect sense and is apparent when you take the time to listen to him
Just going back to the ‘incident’ ..
JoJo said to the actress that they had a good talk afterwards and that she felt that when someone says or does something like Mickey ( supposedly) did … then it comes because that person is really a hurt person inside …
Then she hit him with the killer nomination !
Last night she was having a great , friendly chat with him so he will think that its all a thing in the past .. all forgotten and forgiven.
She then went straight to Michael ( she nominated him for being ‘old and cringe’ ) and laughed and joked and gave him a huge playful hug …
I wouldn’t trust her at all …
Crimson Dynamo
11-04-2025, 09:10 AM
That makes perfect sense and is apparent when you take the time to listen to him
Just going back to the ‘incident’ ..
JoJo said to the actress that they had a good talk afterwards and that she felt that when someone says or does something like Mickey ( supposedly) did … then it comes because that person is really a hurt person inside …
Then she hit him with the killer nomination !
Last night she was having a great , friendly chat with him so he will think that its all a thing in the past .. all forgotten and forgiven.
She then went straight to Michael ( she nominated him for being ‘old and cringe’ ) and laughed and joked and gave him a huge playful hug …
I wouldn’t trust her at all …
yes, she is crafty
Mystic Mock
11-04-2025, 09:15 AM
This should now put this whole mountain out of a molehill to bed
"Mickey's longtime friend Kimberly Hines argued that 'old school' Mickey isn't
purposely trying to hurt or 'offend' anyone, but is merely not up to scratch with the 'politically correct vocabulary' used in 2025. "
Not wanting a woman to be tied up and "turned straight" is now politically correct?
What is happening here lol.
Vanessa
11-04-2025, 09:31 AM
Mickey was obviously joking. Unfortunately his jokes are old 80s ones and he didn't understand that they're not acceptable anymore.
Glad Jojo explained it to him and now it looks like they're getting on great.
Still not happy about her stabbing him in the back, but at least it was a valid reason.
Mickey was obviously joking. Unfortunately his jokes are old 80s ones and he didn't understand that they're not acceptable anymore.
Glad Jojo explained it to him and now it looks like they're getting on great.
Still not happy about her stabbing him in the back, but at least it was a valid reason.
Exactly
How can anyone think he was being serious..
Vanessa
11-04-2025, 09:39 AM
Exactly
How can anyone think he was being serious..
He's actually a kind man. Not someone who would want to offend on purpose.
Mystic Mock
11-04-2025, 09:39 AM
Exactly
How can anyone think he was being serious..
Look, I don't believe that Mickey is someone that's really going to tie Jojo up and have his way with her.
But I don't believe that he was just telling an innocent joke either.
I think that he is a wind up merchant (which I personally don't mind on BB,) and he was looking to get a reaction out of Jojo.
That's my interpretation of his comments.
Vanessa
11-04-2025, 09:42 AM
Look, I don't believe that Mickey is someone that's really going to tie Jojo up and have his way with her.
But I don't believe that he was just telling an innocent joke either.
I think that he is a wind up merchant (which I personally don't mind on BB,) and he was looking to get a reaction out of Jojo.
That's my interpretation of his comments.
The man has been single for the last 10 years.
I think he was bantering and of course it went a bit wrong :laugh:
Crimson Dynamo
11-04-2025, 09:47 AM
He saw Bots thread about it being quiet and ramped things up
In many ways Bots is the real villain here
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Niamh.
11-04-2025, 09:48 AM
He saw Bots thread about it being quiet and ramped things up
In many ways Bots is the real villain here
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Look, I don't believe that Mickey is someone that's really going to tie Jojo up and have his way with her.
But I don't believe that he was just telling an innocent joke either.
I think that he is a wind up merchant (which I personally don't mind on BB,) and he was looking to get a reaction out of Jojo.
That's my interpretation of his comments.
A bit of both perhaps
The man has been single for the last 10 years.
I think he was bantering and of course it went a bit wrong :laugh:
I think so yes
Glenn.
11-04-2025, 11:05 AM
Mickey was obviously joking. Unfortunately his jokes are old 80s ones and he didn't understand that they're not acceptable anymore.
Glad Jojo explained it to him and now it looks like they're getting on great.
Still not happy about her stabbing him in the back, but at least it was a valid reason.
Vanessa the joke wouldn’t have even been funny in the 80s. It would have still been homophobic.
Liam-
11-04-2025, 11:13 AM
Ah, that well known joke, calling gay people homophobic slurs, even going as far to change your normal lexicon to do so, so funny, bless him for people not being happy with it, how dare the lesbian be mad at being targeted with homophobia
Can’t believe anyone could watch that incident and think that he was being intentionally nasty
Glenn.
11-04-2025, 11:32 AM
Can’t believe anyone could watch that incident and think that he was being intentionally nasty
As soon as he realised she wasn’t interested he switched tactics and when straight in the homophobic slurs.
Doesn’t handle rejection well it seems. Like most fragile men.
As soon as he realised she wasn’t interested he switched tactics and when straight in the homophobic slurs.
Doesn’t handle rejection well it seems. Like most fragile men.
He was NEVER interested in her ( that way)
He’s a known womaniser- she does not tick any boxes at all for him apart from being a fellow ( back stabbing) American
He maybe doesn’t care for lesbians/ gays though .. I don’t know for sure though it is entirely feasible
Glenn.
11-04-2025, 11:51 AM
He was NEVER interested in her ( that way)
He’s a known womaniser- she does not tick any boxes at all for him apart from being a fellow ( back stabbing) American
He maybe doesn’t care for lesbians/ gays though .. I don’t know for sure though it is entirely feasible
Then why did he tell her he’d make her straight then. Open your eyes and just admit the blokes an ignorant creep.
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