Trump Scraps LGBTQ+ Suicide Prevention Line

[BBXX]

https://apnews.com/article/988-lgbtq-suicide-prevention-hotline-trump-382342828b381b6a32964f09fe9aa59c

The 988 National Suicide & Crisis Lifeline will stop providing tailored support options to LGBTQ+ youth and young adults on July 17, according to a statement on a federal agency’s website.

The decision preempts the Trump administration’s 2026 budget proposal to cut funding for 988’s LGBTQ+ youth and young adult services, and is raising alarm bells among LGBTQ+ advocates.

Federal data shows the LGBTQ+ youth program has served nearly 1.3 million callers since it started in September 2022. The services were accessible under the “Press 3” option on the phone or by replying “PRIDE” via text.

The Trevor Project said it received official notice Tuesday that the program was ending. The nonprofit is one of seven centers that provides 988 crisis support services for LGBTQ+ people — and serves nearly half of the people who contact the lifeline.

“ Suicide prevention is about people, not politics,” Trevor Project CEO Jaymes Black said in a statement Wednesday. “The administration’s decision to remove a bipartisan, evidence-based service that has effectively supported a high-risk group of young people through their darkest moments is incomprehensible.”

The specific 988 subprogram for LGBTQ+ youth cost $33 million in fiscal year 2024, according to SAMHSA, and as of June 2025, more than $33 million has been spent on the services. The Trump administration’s 2026 budget proposal called for keeping 988’s total budget at $520 million even while eliminating the LGBTQ+ services.

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The "Pro-life" party, everybody.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Anything that reduces unscientific, radical gender ideology is a good thing. Lying to children is a horrible thing.

[BBXX]

Anything that reduces unscientific, radical gender ideology is a good thing. Lying to children is a horrible thing.

And what do you think about the gay teens who call up being they are on the brink of suicide and need tailored assistance now having that removed?

[Glenn.]

It’s almost as if LT still hasn’t figured out that the “L”, “G” and “B” exist too.

But hey, when your concern for kids is only performative and your politics are built on outrage I guess it’s hard to keep up. Bless

[Oliver_W]

Anything that reduces unscientific, radical gender ideology is a good thing. Lying to children is a horrible thing.

Stop pushing gender ideology, sure.

But denying young people an anti-suicide service?

[Beso]

They shout for equality yet want their own brand for everything, including suicide hotlines....Get in the line along side the rest of us...there is no need to differentiate between gay and straight all the time..the help will still be there for you...the operators won't slam the phone down because you are gay.

Absolutely no need to be spending extra money on option 3.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Other great related news that relates to this happened just a day ago

The Supreme Court just upheld Tennessee’s ban on sex changes, puberty
blockers and hormones for kids. It’s now illegal to medically transition a child in
Tennessee AND we set the precedent for the entire country.

Progress

[Glenn.]

They shout for equality yet want their own brand for everything, including suicide hotlines....Get in the line along side the rest of us...there is no need to differentiate between gay and straight all the time..the help will still be there for you...the operators won't slam the phone down because you are gay.

Absolutely no need to be spending extra money on option 3.

Yeah, funny how you lot scream “equality” when it’s convenient — but the second marginalised people ask for something that actually meets their needs, it’s suddenly “special treatment.”

Queer youth face higher suicide rates, are more likely to be kicked out, abused, or shunned because they’re queer. But sure, let’s pretend a one-size-fits-all hotline magically understands that trauma.

This isn’t about cost. You just don’t like the idea of queer people getting anything that acknowledges their reality. Just admit it — you’re not mad about a phone line. You’re mad they exist.

[BBXX]

They shout for equality yet want their own brand for everything, including suicide hotlines....Get in the line along side the rest of us...there is no need to differentiate between gay and straight all the time..the help will still be there for you...the operators won't slam the phone down because you are gay.

Absolutely no need to be spending extra money on option 3.

No extra money is being spent on it, and no money will be saved in cutting it, please read the article, I put it in bold.

Also in bold is where it states nearly HALF of the callers to the suicide prevention line are LGBTQ+, therefore it stands to reason there needs to be additional focus on that cohort because they make up a large percentage of it's callers.

Often LGBTQ+ issues are specific and need tailored help by people who are training in that specific sector. That's why.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Stop pushing gender ideology, sure.

But denying young people an anti-suicide service?

It will still fund the wider 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline - of which the LGBTQ youth option is one part - and that all callers will receive "compassion and help".

[BBXX]

Other great related news that relates to this happened just a day ago

The Supreme Court just upheld Tennessee’s ban on sex changes, puberty
blockers and hormones for kids. It’s now illegal to medically transition a child in
Tennessee AND we set the precedent for the entire country.

Progress

Dodging the question I see. Nice.

okay, you fair enough you just answered it :laugh:

[Glenn.]

Had to shoe horn come sort of far right jargon in though

[Beso]

No extra money is being spent on it, and no money will be saved in cutting it, please read the article, I put it in bold. .

The specific 988 subprogram for LGBTQ+ youth cost $33 million in fiscal year 2024, according to SAMHSA

[Beso]

Yeah, funny how you lot scream “equality” when it’s convenient — but the second marginalised people ask for something that actually meets their needs, it’s suddenly “special treatment.”

Queer youth face higher suicide rates, are more likely to be kicked out, abused, or shunned because they’re queer. But sure, let’s pretend a one-size-fits-all hotline magically understands that trauma.

This isn’t about cost. You just don’t like the idea of queer people getting anything that acknowledges their reality. Just admit it — you’re not mad about a phone line. You’re mad they exist.




If that accusation were true, then I wouldn't have donated 50 pound to a member of TIBB who was doing a fundraiser to highlight awareness for suicide prevention in the LGBTQ youth...you really should stop hurling these wild accusations about Glenn.

[BBXX]

The specific 988 subprogram for LGBTQ+ youth cost $33 million in fiscal year 2024, according to SAMHSA

Yes. Scrapping it is not going to save any money, the overall budget is the same meaning while the LGBTQ+ line has been defunded the money isn't being saved:

The Trump administration’s 2026 budget proposal called for keeping 988’s total budget at $520 million even while eliminating the LGBTQ+ services.

Even if it was, is it not part of society, as well as economic logic, that specific budgets go to specific causes because it's necessary. Investment/Funding into women's domestic abuse support will be greater than for mens because women are more at risk of domestic abuse, parents receive benefits that people without children do not to help raise the next generation, etc... do you suggest that all funding and benefits should be equal across all demographics even if the need for such funding skews massively in one direction. This would leave things either massively underfunded or massively overfunded. Doesn't make logical sense.

[Glenn.]

If that accusation were true, then I wouldn't have donated 50 pound to a member of TIBB who was doing a fundraiser to highlight awareness for suicide prevention in the LGBTQ youth...you really should stop hurling these wild accusations about Glenn.

Ah, the classic “I donated once so I can’t be homophobic” defence. Textbook.

Donating £50 doesn’t erase years of spewing bile or calling gay people predators. You don’t get to buy a clean slate with a charity receipt.

[Beso]

Ah, the classic “I donated once so I can’t be homophobic” defence. Textbook.

Donating £50 doesn’t erase years of spewing bile or calling gay people predators. You don’t get to buy a clean slate with a charity receipt.

Funnily enough the person I donated it to didn't thank me either.

[Glenn.]

Funnily enough the person I donated it to didn't thank me either.

Support isn’t just about money, it’s about not dehumanising people the rest of the time. You don’t get gratitude for damage control.

[Beso]

Yes. Scrapping it is not going to save any money, the overall budget is the same meaning while the LGBTQ+ line has been defunded the money isn't being saved:

The Trump administration’s 2026 budget proposal called for keeping 988’s total budget at $520 million even while eliminating the LGBTQ+ services.

Even if it was, is it not part of society, as well as economic logic, that specific budgets go to specific causes because it's necessary. Investment/Funding into women's domestic abuse support will be greater than for mens because women are more at risk of domestic abuse, parents receive benefits that people without children do not to help raise the next generation, etc... do you suggest that all funding and benefits should be equal across all demographics even if the need for such funding skews massively in one direction. This would leave things either massively underfunded or massively overfunded. Doesn't make logical sense.




All that means is that the operators on line 3 will still be working the lines...And the help will still be available at the end of the phone. Only difference is, and seems like the only thing people are concerned about is the fact the line 3 label has been removed...

[BBXX]

All that means is that the operators on line 3 will still be working the lines...And the help will still be available at the end of the phone. Only difference is, and seems like the only thing people are concerned about is the fact the line 3 label has been removed...

Which directs them to specific groups training in that specific issue, now they could be sent to someone who doesn't specialise in that specific issue.

Your objection was that it shouldn't receive extra funding. Now we've established that it doesn't, what is the issue with having a specific option for specific demographic who need specially trained assistance in that specific area? What's the harm?

How many times have you called any company that has various options and you've chosen that specific option because you know it's going to get you the best most effective help possible. We do it all the time. Now it's like you calling a company and needing to speak to someone about your oven, but you've reached someone trained in fridge freezers. Only instead of kitchen appliances we are talking about peoples lives here. :)

[Glenn.]

All that means is that the operators on line 3 will still be working the lines...And the help will still be available at the end of the phone. Only difference is, and seems like the only thing people are concerned about is the fact the line 3 label has been removed...

No, the issue isn’t a “label” being removed, it’s that a lifeline tailored for queer people in crisis was quietly scrapped by people who don’t give a **** if they live or die.

LGBTQ-specific help exists because general lines don’t always get it. It’s not about branding, it’s about survival.

But sure, keep pretending it’s just about wording. Must be nice to live in a world where that’s all you see.

[BBXX]

No, the issue isn’t a “label” being removed, it’s that a lifeline tailored for queer people in crisis was quietly scrapped by people who don’t give a **** if they live or die.

LGBTQ-specific help exists because general lines don’t always get it. It’s not about branding, it’s about survival.

But sure, keep pretending it’s just about wording. Must be nice to live in a world where that’s all you see.

Yes, I'm not sure why Beso is pretending medical specialisation is a new thing.

[Crimson Dynamo]

And note in the announcement

""On July 17, the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline will no longer silo LGB+ youth services"

using the LGB+ acronym

[Glenn.]

Yes, I'm not sure why Beso is pretending medical specialisation is a new thing.

He’s in the same camp as “why isn’t there a straight pride”

Should tell you all you need to know about him

[Mystic Mock]

Anything that reduces unscientific, radical gender ideology is a good thing. Lying to children is a horrible thing.

This is harmful to the whole group community though.

And personally I do think that Trans people deserve help too, if they're mentally unwell.

[Mystic Mock]

They shout for equality yet want their own brand for everything, including suicide hotlines....Get in the line along side the rest of us...there is no need to differentiate between gay and straight all the time..the help will still be there for you...the operators won't slam the phone down because you are gay.

Absolutely no need to be spending extra money on option 3.

Is it really any different to how on certain topics men and women will have separate things for themselves?

[Kate!]

This is harmful to the whole group community though.

And personally I do think that Trans people deserve help too, if they're mentally unwell.

Is it really any different to how on certain topics men and women will have separate things for themselves?

I do agree on this particular topic with Mock especially. He says it very well.

[Mystic Mock]

I do agree on this particular topic with Mock especially. He says it very well.

Thanks Kate.:blush:

[Beso]

Which directs them to specific groups training in that specific issue, now they could be sent to someone who doesn't specialise in that specific issue.

Your objection was that it shouldn't receive extra funding. Now we've established that it doesn't, what is the issue with having a specific option for specific demographic who need specially trained assistance in that specific area? What's the harm?



How many times have you called any company that has various options and you've chosen that specific option because you know it's going to get you the best most effective help possible. We do it all the time. Now it's like you calling a company and needing to speak to someone about your oven, but you've reached someone trained in fridge freezers. Only instead of kitchen appliances we are talking about peoples lives here. :)



They will be talking to someone trained in all aspects of suicide prevention...I could easily have used these services in my past, would I be talking to someone going through what I was going through? Perhaps, perhaps not..heck I could be talking to someone specifically clued up on LGBTQ issues, with no life experience of what I was going through. It works both ways. All the operators care though.


You went on about funding, and made it sound like that was my isssue, it wasn't.. my issue is the extra cost for the extra line...if we had a different line for all the reasons people want to kill themselves over there would be far far to many lines at to high a cost.. training is the best way..


Shouldn't LGBTQ charities have phone lines for this if people want to talk to the people with the same life experiences...but even then you probably are not talking to someone who has been on the brink of suicide before, so the only thing you have in common is being LGBTQ.

[Livia]

Does the government in this country fund any help and/or crisis lines? Aren't they all funded by charity, like the Samaritans? If the feeling is strong enough surely someone can think about setting up a charitable helpline? You can't rely on governments, not really.

[Beso]

He’s in the same camp as “why isn’t there a straight pride”

Should tell you all you need to know about him

Trying to get people to turn their back on others by spreading falsehoods is henious.

[Beso]

Is it really any different to how on certain topics men and women will have separate things for themselves?

It's not as simple as men, women, lgbtq.....people d9nt want to kill themselves cause they are one of those 3, but of course some willl, especially perhaps someone suffering mentally who believe they are in the wrong body...but even then, they would maybe expect to be on line 3, but how's that going to help them?

People feel suicidal for a magnitude of reasons, which is why the people on the end of these lines needed full and comprehensive training for all aspects of suicide.

[BBXX]

They will be talking to someone trained in all aspects of suicide prevention...I could easily have used these services in my past, would I be talking to someone going through what I was going through? Perhaps, perhaps not..heck I could be talking to someone specifically clued up on LGBTQ issues, with no life experience of what I was going through. It works both ways. All the operators care though.

Shouldn't LGBTQ charities have phone lines for this if people want to talk to the people with the same life experiences...but even then you probably are not talking to someone who has been on the brink of suicide before, so the only thing you have in common is being LGBTQ.

You don't need to speak to people who have been through what you've been going through, or people who are LGBT. But you should be speaking to someone who is trained in dealing with the nuanced issues that come with being LGBT, which as stated accounts for almost half their calls.

A cancer doctor doesn't need to have had cancer to be trained in that field, just like a vet doesn't need to own a dog.

You went on about funding, and made it sound like that was my isssue, it wasn't.. my issue is the extra cost for the extra line...

As stated, this line doesn't cost extra.

if we had a different line for all the reasons people want to kill themselves over there would be far far to many lines at to high a cost...

LGBTQ+ callers make up almost half their callers. That's a very important stat. Why would you cut a line and specific service in which half of all calls are being directed to? What is the logical reason when we've established it's not saving money?

[BBXX]

It's not as simple as men, women, lgbtq.....people d9nt want to kill themselves cause they are one of those 3, but of course some willl, especially perhaps someone suffering mentally who believe they are in the wrong body...but even then, they would maybe expect to be on line 3, but how's that going to help them?

People feel suicidal for a magnitude of reasons, which is why the people on the end of these lines needed full and comprehensive training for all aspects of suicide.

Right now they have a covert specifically trained in LGBTQ+ issues, now removing that line you will need to train everybody else to also have training in LGBT issues. Do you think that additional training for everyone else won't cost money?

This makes no sense from a practical, ethical, logical or ethical POV. There is not one sound reason yet to be given.

[BBXX]

Does the government in this country fund any help and/or crisis lines? Aren't they all funded by charity, like the Samaritans? If the feeling is strong enough surely someone can think about setting up a charitable helpline? You can't rely on governments, not really.

It's been established cutting this saves no money, the budget for this remains the same, so the service will continue to exist and cost the same, but the specific service for half their users will no longer exist.

You're in favour of providing a worse service for 50% of its users despite it costing the same amount as it has done historically. Why?

[Livia]

It's been established cutting this saves no money, the budget for this remains the same, so the service will continue to exist and cost the same, but the specific service for half their users will no longer exist.

You're in favour of providing a worse service for 50% of its users despite it costing the same amount as it has done historically. Why?

I never said I was in favour of cutting it, I said you can't rely on governments.

[Beso]

Right now they have a covert specifically trained in LGBTQ+ issues, now removing that line you will need to train everybody else to also have training in LGBT issues. Do you think that additional training for everyone else won't cost money?

This makes no sense from a practical, ethical, logical or ethical POV. There is not one sound reason yet to be given.



You need to show me something that says all the operators on line 3 are LGBTQ, and all the operators on line 1 and 2 are straight.


Or is it simply all down to training, and using the people who adapted to the training the best, for each specific line..


I'm not sure why you are ignoring the cost of the extra line being in use...fair enough they ate not saving money by closing it, but the extra cost of running it is being used elsewhere, perhaps in training and extra lines for all, without differentiating people this time..


It's not about being gay or straight , it's about being suicidal.

[Ammi]

…I was just now reading a little about the Trevor Project because it’s not something that I was familiar with…it’s a non profit organisation founded in 1998…?…so it was up and running when Trump was in his first term as President…but it wasn’t something that he prioritised to ‘scrap’ then…?…so why now…?…and has he researched the ofganisation for him to come to the decision that it’s not something that needs to continue…?…it doesn’t feel as though he has, it feels very much like Farage in commenting on an intended blanket removal of diversity funding just because these things appear to be more populist decision making …and that in itself is very concerning, but not surprising sadly…I don’t know how Government funding in the US works, it’s such a huge country in comparison to us but there does appear to be National funding as well as individual State funding…and as we (…rightly …)…criticise the reduction/removal of funding for more vulnerable and marginalised groups here, then this just feels like such a blow for mental health/people in crisis in general…I know when the mental health funding specifically for children was cut and child services reduced and removed, it’s had a huge negative impact and that impact just becomes more and more…

[bots]

it's a politicaly motivated gesture that appeals to his base. This is the tip of the iceberg, there will be far worse to come down the line

[BBXX]

You need to show me something that says will the operators on line 3 are LGBTQ, and will the operators on line 1 and 2 are straight.

Or is it simply all down to training, and using the people who adapted to the training the best, for each specific line..


I didn't say they would LGBT on Line 3, you did. I suggested they don't necessarily need to be, but they are evidently trained to deal with the cohort of people calling through.


I'm not sure why you are ignoring the cost of the extra line being in use...fair enough they ate not saving money by closing it, but the extra cost of running it is being used elsewhere, perhaps in training and extra lines for all, without differentiating people this time..

Something being allocated a percentage of a budget doesn't mean it costs 'extra' if no money is saved when it's gone.

It's not about being gay, it's about being suicidal.

I think it's a lack of understanding from you, which is fine and completely understandable because how are you supposed to know, that for many LGBT people, suicidal thoughts are linked to their LGBT-ness. It is about being gay.

This stems from of lack of support, hate crime, ostracisation, pressure to stay in the closet, religious persecution, lack of self acceptance etc etc....

That's not to say LGBT people don't get depressed or suicidal over other stuff, but for the majority of LGBT youth feeling suicidal, it will be linked to their sexuality in some capacity, hence why there is the need for a specific cohort of people trained in that, particularly when it's such a large proportion of people.

[Beso]

I didn't say they would LGBT on Line 3, you did. I suggested they don't necessarily need to be, but they are evidently trained to deal with the cohort of people calling through.



Something being allocated a percentage of a budget doesn't mean it costs 'extra' if no money is saved when it's gone.



I think it's a lack of understanding from you, which is fine and completely understandable because how are you supposed to know, that for many LGBT people, suicidal thoughts are linked to their LGBT-ness. It is about being gay.

This stems from of lack of support, hate crime, ostracisation, pressure to stay in the closet, religious persecution, lack of self acceptance etc etc....

That's not to say LGBT people don't get depressed or suicidal over other stuff, but for the majority of LGBT youth feeling suicidal, it will be linked to their sexuality in some capacity, hence why there is the need for a specific cohort of people trained in that, particularly when it's such a large proportion of people.



I fully understand.. people are fully trained, and with this extra money now not being used on line 3, more and more people can be fully trained on all aspects of everyone's suicidal thoughts and tendencies...Which imo, is more inclusive than the divicive line 3 option.


If I was gay I would be thinking to myself, why the helll do I need to dial an LGBTQ only number to seek help...it's a bit like saying blacks this way, whites that way...that's what I'm against. The constant separation and pigeon holing we have for each other..


I've said enough on the matter now, and im totally sick to death og discussing American issues. So i wish you well, and hope you have a nice weerkend.

[Ammi]

BBXX …(…I presume or am thinking…)…that individual States are blocking these funding withdrawals in court so Trump may not be able to carry this through, this is all just Trump noise…?..

Judge blocks Trump administration from enforcing anti-DEI orders in grant funding

A federal judge in California has blocked the Trump administration from enforcing anti-diversity and anti-transgender executive orders in grant funding requirements that LGBTQ+ organizations say are unconstitutional.

Jon Tigar, a US district judge, said on Monday that the federal government cannot force recipients to halt programs that promote diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) or acknowledge the existence of transgender people in order to receive grant funding. The order will remain in effect while the legal case continues, although government lawyers will probably appeal.

The funding provisions “reflect an effort to censor constitutionally protected speech and services promoting DEI and recognizing the existence of transgender individuals”, Tigar wrote.

He went on to say that the executive branch must still be bound by the constitution in shaping its agenda and that even in the context of federal subsidies, “it cannot weaponize congressionally appropriated funds to single out protected communities for disfavored treatment or suppress ideas that it does not like or has deemed dangerous”.


The plaintiffs include health centers, LGBTQ+ services groups and the Gay Lesbian Bisexual Transgender Historical Society. All receive federal funding and say they cannot complete their missions by following the president’s executive orders.

The San Francisco Aids Foundation, one of the plaintiffs, said in 2023 it received a five-year grant from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) to expand and enhance sexual health services, including the prevention of sexually transmitted infections. The $1.3m project specifically targets communities disproportionately affected by sexual health disparities.

But in April, the CDC informed the non-profit that it must “immediately terminate all programs, personnel, activities, or contracts” that promote DEI or gender ideology.

Donald Trump has signed a flurry of executive orders since his second presidency began in January, including ones to roll back transgender protections and stop DEI programs. Lawyers for the government say that the president is permitted to “align government funding and enforcement strategies” with his policies.

Plaintiffs say that Congress – and not the president – has the power to condition how federal funds are used, and that the executive orders restrict free speech rights.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/10/judge-blocks-trump-anti-dei-grants

[Glenn.]

I fully understand.. people are fully trained, and with this extra money now not being used on line 3, more and more people can be fully trained on all aspects of everyone's suicidal thoughts and tendencies...Which imo, is more inclusive than the divicive line 3 option.


If I was gay I would be thinking to myself, why the helll do I need to dial an LGBTQ only number to seek help...it's a bit like saying blacks this way, whites that way...that's what I'm against. The constant separation and pigeon holing we have for each other..


I've said enough on the matter now, and im totally sick to death og discussing American issues. So i wish you well, and hope you have a nice weerkend.

It’s not about “separation,” it’s about recognition. Marginalised groups often face different barriers when reaching out for help, whether that’s fear, stigma, or past trauma with general services. Having tailored support isn’t division; it’s empathy in action.

And comparing it to racial segregation? That’s not just a bad analogy, it’s an insult to both causes.

[BBXX]

I fully understand.. people are fully trained, and with this extra money now not being used on line 3, more and more people can be fully trained on all aspects of everyone's suicidal thoughts and tendencies...Which imo, is more inclusive than the divicive line 3 option.


If I was gay I would be thinking to myself, why the helll do I need to dial an LGBTQ only number to seek help...it's a bit like saying blacks this way, whites that way...that's what I'm against. The constant separation and pigeon holing we have for each other..


I've said enough on the matter now, and im totally sick to death og discussing American issues. So i wish you well, and hope you have a nice weerkend.

It's great you're against separation. Certain demographics having their own services to help for their specific cause isn't separation. :)

[arista]

And what do you think about the gay teens who call up being they are on the brink of suicide and need tailored assistance now having that removed?

I hope not.


They will have to wait for next general election
in the USA, I would think

[Benjamin]

I never said I was in favour of cutting it, I said you can't rely on governments.

I agree with this. Governments tend to be unreliable and unstable.

I do believe most here in this country are run by registered charities (correct me if I’m wrong though as I’m not overly familiar if they are).

[Cherie]

If it didn't cost anything extra then the only reason to scrap it was red meat to his fans, simple as

[Benjamin]

I fully understand.. people are fully trained, and with this extra money now not being used on line 3, more and more people can be fully trained on all aspects of everyone's suicidal thoughts and tendencies...Which imo, is more inclusive than the divicive line 3 option.


If I was gay I would be thinking to myself, why the helll do I need to dial an LGBTQ only number to seek help...it's a bit like saying blacks this way, whites that way...that's what I'm against. The constant separation and pigeon holing we have for each other..


I've said enough on the matter now, and im totally sick to death og discussing American issues. So i wish you well, and hope you have a nice weerkend.

Because sometimes you want to talk to somebody like you who understands the struggle. There’s nothing wrong in that. It will all depend on what they are calling for.

[Ninastar]

I agree with this. Governments tend to be unreliable and unstable.

I do believe most here in this country are run by registered charities (correct me if I’m wrong though as I’m not overly familiar if they are).

X3

[The Slim Reaper]

Charity is a failure of government.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Most big charities are a racket

in fact are there any that are not?

[Oliver_W]

And personally I do think that Trans people deserve help too, if they're mentally unwell.

"If" ?

[Mystic Mock]

BBXX …(…I presume or am thinking…)…that individual States are blocking these funding withdrawals in court so Trump may not be able to carry this through, this is all just Trump noise…?..

Judge blocks Trump administration from enforcing anti-DEI orders in grant funding

A federal judge in California has blocked the Trump administration from enforcing anti-diversity and anti-transgender executive orders in grant funding requirements that LGBTQ+ organizations say are unconstitutional.

Jon Tigar, a US district judge, said on Monday that the federal government cannot force recipients to halt programs that promote diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) or acknowledge the existence of transgender people in order to receive grant funding. The order will remain in effect while the legal case continues, although government lawyers will probably appeal.

The funding provisions “reflect an effort to censor constitutionally protected speech and services promoting DEI and recognizing the existence of transgender individuals”, Tigar wrote.

He went on to say that the executive branch must still be bound by the constitution in shaping its agenda and that even in the context of federal subsidies, “it cannot weaponize congressionally appropriated funds to single out protected communities for disfavored treatment or suppress ideas that it does not like or has deemed dangerous”.


The plaintiffs include health centers, LGBTQ+ services groups and the Gay Lesbian Bisexual Transgender Historical Society. All receive federal funding and say they cannot complete their missions by following the president’s executive orders.

The San Francisco Aids Foundation, one of the plaintiffs, said in 2023 it received a five-year grant from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) to expand and enhance sexual health services, including the prevention of sexually transmitted infections. The $1.3m project specifically targets communities disproportionately affected by sexual health disparities.

But in April, the CDC informed the non-profit that it must “immediately terminate all programs, personnel, activities, or contracts” that promote DEI or gender ideology.

Donald Trump has signed a flurry of executive orders since his second presidency began in January, including ones to roll back transgender protections and stop DEI programs. Lawyers for the government say that the president is permitted to “align government funding and enforcement strategies” with his policies.

Plaintiffs say that Congress – and not the president – has the power to condition how federal funds are used, and that the executive orders restrict free speech rights.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/10/judge-blocks-trump-anti-dei-grants

I'm personally not a big lover of DEI myself if I'm being entirely honest, it should always be based on merit regardless of what community you come from.

However, Trump is meant to be running a democratic country, so if a company wants to run itself on a DEI model then they have the right to do that.

[Mystic Mock]

"If" ?

You know what I mean.:laugh:

[Beso]

Because sometimes you want to talk to somebody like you who understands the struggle. There’s nothing wrong in that. It will all depend on what they are calling for.

Yeah


And I want to cry and wail at somebody that's going through what I've been going through, but I doubt many of them even have the strength to even get up in the morning.



To think that talking to an LGBTQ operative over the phone at your lowest moment is connecting with someone who's shared the same pain is ****ing idiotic.

Get a grip of normality.

[Maru]

I'm ready to laugh if we find out that the reason the LGBTQ+ line/Trevor Project contract was cut because too many people calling in to complain about his policies.

I mean, it's entirely possible...

(Jan 17)
The Trevor Project to undergo layoffs and restructuring in major 'transformation'
https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/trevor-project-undergo-layoffs-restructuring-major-transformation-rcna188067

Jaymes Black, who became the nonprofit’s CEO last July, said the organization, which has around 600 employees, is in the midst of a “perfect storm” — soaring crisis calls and messages from LGBTQ youths, an increasingly hostile political climate for LGBTQ rights and a drop in individual donations.

It looks like people can still call the Trevor Project directly, though. They're just not routing callers from the 988 switch board...

I can't find any specific reason why the contract was cut, but I don't think it's money. We're not that fiscally responsible. But the centers do seem to have a general funding problem...

How we're doing locally:

(From 2023)
Houston suicide crisis call center working to meet surge in calls to new 988 hotline
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/health/article/988-suicide-and-crisis-lifeline-houston-centers-17760082.php

Calls to the 988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline have surged in Texas and the United States since its launch last summer, highlighting the demand for mental health services in the wake of the pandemic and the related workforce challenges.

Texas answers roughly 70 percent of the in-state calls, an improvement from roughly 40 percent several years ago, Battle said. The rest get diverted to a national backup call center. Although the state lags behind others by that metric and is working to improve upon it, Battle said, Texas still answers more calls than every state except California and New York.

Not boding well:

(2025)
Amid a $7 million deficit to Texas’ suicide hotline, thousands of calls are abandoned monthly
https://www.texastribune.org/2025/01/06/texas-988-suicide-hotline-funding-deficit/

When people call a 988 call center, they first hear an electronic greeting that will give them a series of choices, including for Spanish speakers, veterans, and LGBTQI-plus youth. Depending on what callers select, the system could transfer them to an organization that fits their needs, including the Trevor Project and the Veterans Crisis Line.

If callers do not pick any of these options, they are usually transferred to their closest 988 call center and if nobody is available there, they are transferred to another until they reach a crisis counselor, sometimes out of state. It is during these multiple transfers when people often hang up.

[BBXX]

To think that talking to an LGBTQ operative over the phone at your lowest moment is connecting with someone who's shared the same pain is ****ing idiotic.

Get a grip of normality.

It’s not about them BEING LGBTQ, it’s about them UNDERSTANDING LGBTQ issues because if you understand then you’re going to know how to navigate the conversation better to reach a safe conclusion.

[Ammi]

…although grant government funding isn’t a reliable finance support source for charities because it fluctuates etc…well, similar to all funding/whether it be for a charity or something like a school/education…it is vital and obviously can mean life or death to a charity…to scrap it as is aimed by Trump is very much targeting of a section of society and truly abhorrent…I just can’t fathom how anyone could ever think of him as a man of the people…he’s a man obsessed with power…

[bots]

Trump is a disrupter and he does that really well. While his intentions are often less than honorable, he forces people to rethink how they approach things, which is often a good thing in reality. I think what i'm saying is, that it will end up better in the end

[arista]

Trump is a disrupter and he does that really well. While his intentions are often less than honorable, he forces people to rethink how they approach things, which is often a good thing in reality. I think what i'm saying is, that it will end up better in the end


Yes well put.


This why he won the Election.

[Benjamin]

Yeah


And I want to cry and wail at somebody that's going through what I've been going through, but I doubt many of them even have the strength to even get up in the morning.



To think that talking to an LGBTQ operative over the phone at your lowest moment is connecting with someone who's shared the same pain is ****ing idiotic.

Get a grip of normality.

I think you’re the one being idiotic to be perfectly honest with that mindset.

If a gay person is feeling suicidal because they are struggling dealing with being gay (could be a number of reasons why, but let’s say because they are from a homophobic family and terrified to come out which is making them depressed leading them to feel suicidal) then calling a line dedicated to lgbqt+ to speak with people who may have been through similar or can understand what’s it’s like to deal with coming out of course they are more likely to go to them for guidance/help.

You’ll never experience it (luckily) but before coming out life is quite terrifying and really sits heavy on your shoulders and mental health worrying about how everyone will react. And this is as a teenager/young adult. I count myself lucky I had no issues when I did come out. But not everyone is so lucky, especially if they are surrounded by people who are homophobic.

[Ammi]

…I read that Trump recently has cancelled 68 grants that were applied to LGBQT+ health related issues…/…including some that were focused on continued HIV prevention researches…

[Glenn.]

I wonder why

[Vicky.]

No reason to do this..I could 'kinda' understand if they were costing a fortune (though I would still prob argue that it was needed) but for self funded businesses it seems ****.

[Mystic Mock]

…I read that Trump recently has cancelled 68 grants that were applied to LGBQT+ health related issues…/…including some that were focused on continued HIV prevention researches…

Wow! Just when you think that he couldn't become a bigger arsehole.

[arista]

I wonder why

To save on funding

[Glenn.]

To save on funding


lol

[Nicky91]

another good thing by the all time best US president :clap2:

[Beso]

It’s not about them BEING LGBTQ, it’s about them UNDERSTANDING LGBTQ issues because if you understand then you’re going to know how to navigate the conversation better to reach a safe conclusion.

There should be extra lines for all the peoples problems in that case. Even with a dedicated line for LGBTQ you still ain't guaranteed to be talking with someone who went through what you are going through, therefore you would be just as well on another line talking with someone else fullly trained. People who are not LGBTQ can still understand all issues regarding LGBTQ, and in particular suicidal feelings surrounding it.

[BBXX]

There should be extra lines for all the peoples problems in that case. Even with a dedicated line for LGBTQ you still ain't guaranteed to be talking with someone who went through what you are going through, therefore you would be just as well on another line talking with someone else fullly trained. People who are not LGBTQ can still understand all issues regarding LGBTQ, and in particular suicidal feelings surrounding it.

I wasn't suggesting they had to have gone through the same thing, but be trained in LGBT issues.

A lot of straight people don't understand LGBT issues, proven by this site time and time again.

[Beso]

I wasn't suggesting they had to have gone through the same thing, but be trained in LGBT issues.

A lot of straight people don't understand LGBT issues, proven by this site time and time again.

You would think people manning a suicide prevention line would though...No?

[BBXX]

You would think people manning a suicide prevention line would though...No?

Potentially yes, but I also think there'd be people training in specialist situations and with specific issues and causes for suicidal thoughts. It's a bit like therapy - there are therapists that are training/educated in certain specific subjects. This is no different. Having a line dedicated to a subject gives confidence who you're speaking to is trained to deal with LGBT issues.

When there is no cost saving and no actual benefit of removing such a service, it is really weird to support its removal so much. Very strange.

[BBXX]

another good thing by the all time best US president :clap2:

Explain the benefits.