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I don't understand the world anymore...
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/2013872/ukraines-incredible-new-1-2bn-resort
What don't you understand about the article and we can try and help.
I don’t think he’s talking about the article per -se … more the idea they are spending oooodles on a ski resort whilst the side of the country is being bombed relentlessly by the Ruskies
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I don’t think he’s talking about the article per -se … more the idea they are spending oooodles on a ski resort whilst the side of the country is being bombed relentlessly by the Ruskies
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Well I thought it might be that, but I am assuming if someone is confused as to why, enough to make a thread about it, they'd read the article and would see the answers in there which would clear up the confusion as to why/how money is being spent on a ski resort despite the war.
Well I thought it might be that, but I am assuming if someone is confused as to why, enough to make a thread about it, they'd read the article and would see the answers in there which would clear up the confusion as to why/how money is being spent on a ski resort despite the war.
Well I didn’t read the article ..
It’s a ridiculous scenario and nothing in an article will change my mind
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Well I didn’t read the article ..
It’s a ridiculous scenario and nothing in an article will change my mind
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Not that the ski resort will be completed in FIFTEEN YEARS?
Not that it was planned before the war took hold?
And most importantly, not the fact that a private company purchased the land and is funding the construction?
You can't see how any of that is relevant enough to alter your opinion it's a ridiculous scenario?
People not reading things for context and forming opinions off of headlines is frankly idiotic and devalue their opinions instantly.
Not that the ski resort will be completed in FIFTEEN YEARS?
Not that it was planned before the war took hold?
And most importantly, not the fact that a private company purchased the land and is funding the construction?
You can't see how any of that is relevant enough to alter your opinion it's a ridiculous scenario?
People not reading things for context and forming opinions off of headlines is frankly idiotic and devalue their opinions instantly.
A private Ukrainian company, that's making lots of money whilst our tax money is being sent to Ukraine so they can continue to make loads if money....
Here is a run down of them.....https://www.google.com/search?q=okko+group&client=ms-android-samsung&sca_esv=fde5af2864922ef4&biw=360&bih=560&sxsrf=AE3TifOSmOKskPLqRj0Gxvcf36oNIINj8A%3A1750862 928920&ei=UAxcaLv4N87PhbIPt9qc0AY&oq=OKKO+&gs_lp=EhNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwIgVPS0tPICoCCAEy ChAAGIAEGEMYigUyChAAGIAEGEMYigUyBRAAGIAEMgoQABiABB hDGIoFMgUQABiABDIUEC4YgAQYxwEYmAUYmQUYngUYrwEyFBAu GIAEGMcBGJgFGJkFGJ4FGK8BMhQQLhiABBjHARiYBRiZBRieBR ivAUjn2AVQjAtY7kdwBngBkAEAmAHDAaABuhGqAQQ1LjEzuAEB yAEA-AEBmAIQoAL3D6gCD8ICChAAGLADGNYEGEfCAg0QABiABBiwAxh DGIoFwgIKEC4YgAQYQxiKBcICChAjGIAEGCcYigXCAgQQIxgnw gIKEAAYgAQYFBiHAsICDRAuGIAEGLEDGBQYhwLCAgsQABiABBi xAxiDAcICBxAjGCcY6gLCAgcQLhgnGOoCwgINECMY8AUYgAQYJ xiKBcICBxAjGPAFGCfCAhMQLhiABBhDGMcBGJgFGIoFGK8BwgI WEC4YgAQYQxjHARiYBRiZBRiKBRivAcICCBAuGIAEGLEDwgIFE C4YgATCAgcQABiABBgKwgILEAAYgAQYkQIYigXCAhYQLhiABBj HARiYBRiZBRgKGJ4FGK8BmAMp8QXDI-BPdIQ0dIgGAZAGDZIHBTYuOC4yoAfwrgGyBwUwLjguMrgHkg7C BwczLTEuNy44yAf8BA&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp
A private Ukrainian company, that's making lots of money whilst our tax money is being sent to Ukraine so they can continue to make loads if money....
Tax money has always included international aid, that doesn't mean all of that country's private companies have to donate profits to fund defence, otherwise there would be no economy left once the war is over...how is a country supposed to survive that.
Tax money has always included international aid, that doesn't mean all of that country's private companies have to donate profits to fund defence, otherwise there would be no economy left once the war is over...how is a country supposed to survive that.
Skiing....They could go skiing...at the tax dodging owners resort....
Skiing....They could go skiing...at the tax dodging owners resort....
In 15 years time.
God forbid a country tried to rebuild itself.
A lot of the aid to Ukraine isn't pure cash, you realise, when they say we've donated 5 billion, a chunk of that would be the value of the products we send, such as missiles and a lot of it is actually a loan in which they have to pay back once it's rebuilt itself. They can't do this is their economy is ****ed.
arista
25-06-2025, 03:25 PM
I don't understand the world anymore...
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/2013872/ukraines-incredible-new-1-2bn-resort
To be completed by 2029
I assume the Russian invasion ended?
[The construction of the GORO Mountain
ski resort has started in the Lviv region,
which will build 25 hotels,
5,500 rooms stretching across
a total area of 2,965 acres,
with 41 46.6-mile-long ski slopes
with 846 acres of snow cove,
over 10 miles of ski lifts,
two modern gondola lifts and
11 chairlifts.]
In 15 years time.
God forbid a country tried to rebuild itself.
A lot of the aid to Ukraine isn't pure cash, you realise, when they say we've donated 5 billion, a chunk of that would be the value of the products we send, such as missiles and a lot of it is actually a loan in which they have to pay back once it's rebuilt itself. They can't do this is their economy is ****ed.
It's a ski resort, a ski resort for the privileged..It has absolutely no place being built while a war is going on, a war being funded by the rest of the world whilst they whittle away billions on vanity projects..
It may please you, but it don't please me.
It's a ski resort, a ski resort for the privileged..It has absolutely no place being built while a war is going on, a war being funded by the rest of the world whilst they whittle away billions on vanity projects..
It may please you, but it don't please me.
That's fine, I personally am not a communist and believe in capitalism and believe private companies have a right to invest in things without Government interference.
That's fine, I personally am not a communist and believe in capitalism and believe private companies have a right to invest in things without Government interference.
And i believe, if you dig your own hole, you get yourself out of it.
And i believe, if you dig your own hole, you get yourself out of it.
During WWII you would have been on the side of Hitler and against Britain receiving the financial aid it did to allow it to survive, just FYI.
Not that the ski resort will be completed in FIFTEEN YEARS?
Not that it was planned before the war took hold?
And most importantly, not the fact that a private company purchased the land and is funding the construction?
You can't see how any of that is relevant enough to alter your opinion it's a ridiculous scenario?
People not reading things for context and forming opinions off of headlines is frankly idiotic and devalue their opinions instantly.
I would have thought that the armed forces and those innocent towns and villages would appreciate all the manpower and money for the ongoing war against the Russians NOW
Bet those being bombed all day and night weren’t best pleased to hear about the ski resort
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Private investment will be extremely important to Ukraine's recovery when the war is over. The government has no money, is entirely reliant on aid and loans, and will be massively in debt at the end of this
Private investment will be extremely important to Ukraine's recovery when the war is over. The government has no money, is entirely reliant on aid and loans, and will be massively in debt at the end of this
…indeed…and it’s quite a risk still that the company who are developing the resort are taking and putting much needed employment etc and investment into the economy over the next 15 years so good luck to them…
Private investment will be extremely important to Ukraine's recovery when the war is over. The government has no money, is entirely reliant on aid and loans, and will be massively in debt at the end of this
It may not even exist at the end of this …
Still they will have a super duper Ski resort
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‘This large-scale investment signals confidence in Ukraine’s future and the resilience of its economy. With the first hotel complex already under development, the resort is expected to provide a significant boost to the local economy by creating jobs and attracting tourists. It also represents a broader effort to prepare the country for post-war recovery by enhancing its infrastructure and hospitality sector.
While Ukraine remains focused on defending its sovereignty, projects like this demonstrate a commitment to resilience and long-term growth. The Carpathian Mountains have long been known for their breathtaking landscapes, and this development could establish the region as a premier travel destination in Eastern Europe.
Despite the ongoing conflict, the determination to build for the future is clear. The new resort is not just an investment in tourism but a symbol of Ukraine’s unwavering spirit and hope for better days ahead.’
‘This large-scale investment signals confidence in Ukraine’s future and the resilience of its economy. With the first hotel complex already under development, the resort is expected to provide a significant boost to the local economy by creating jobs and attracting tourists. It also represents a broader effort to prepare the country for post-war recovery by enhancing its infrastructure and hospitality sector.
While Ukraine remains focused on defending its sovereignty, projects like this demonstrate a commitment to resilience and long-term growth. The Carpathian Mountains have long been known for their breathtaking landscapes, and this development could establish the region as a premier travel destination in Eastern Europe.
Despite the ongoing conflict, the determination to build for the future is clear. The new resort is not just an investment in tourism but a symbol of Ukraine’s unwavering spirit and hope for better days ahead.’
What if Ukraine doesn’t even exist when its all over
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What if Ukraine doesn’t even exist when its all over
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…it shows a real confidence that they will and more investments will help so much in the people building their country again and providing employment, which will be so much needed…
I would have thought that the armed forces and those innocent towns and villages would appreciate all the manpower and money for the ongoing war against the Russians NOW
Bet those being bombed all day and night weren’t best pleased to hear about the ski resort
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Dude, you have such a black and white view of how things work.
Life has to continue as normal otherwise the country will cease to be. These ares are around 350-400 miles apart from one another. Imagine Glasgow being bombed and developments continue in London.
The West of Ukraine is being redeveloped significantly - this is to ensure continuation of trade, future tourism and a way to secure its future economics.
Mystic Mock
25-06-2025, 07:57 PM
What don't you understand about the article and we can try and help.
Who's going to the Ukraine at the moment tbf?
During WWII you would have been on the side of Hitler and against Britain receiving the financial aid it did to allow it to survive, just FYI.
No...I would have been in a trench, trying to survive.
It may not even exist at the end of this …
Still they will have a super duper Ski resort
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It's probably being built by the Russians.
Mystic Mock
25-06-2025, 08:04 PM
No...I would have been in a trench, trying to survive.
The UK would've been screwed without international aid back then.
Imagine Glasgow being bombed and london continuing to develope!
How do you honestly see any self respecting Scottish person feeling about that?
:crazy:
The UK would've been screwed without international aid back then.
It was a world war, we sacrificed lives for that. Lives given on foreign soil. A fare trade...
Who's going to the Ukraine at the moment tbf?
It’s due for completion in 15 years time…
Imagine Glasgow being bombed and london continuing to develope!
How do you honestly see any self respecting Scottish person feeling about that?
:crazy:
Reverse it then. It’s not about where it’s about distance.
It was a world war, we sacrificed lives for that. Lives given on foreign soil. A fare trade...
No, not correct. We paid back international aid donated during both world wars, as Ukraine is expected to do so this time.
You had a lot of negative opinions but not much knowledge, it might be worth reading up.
Mystic Mock
25-06-2025, 08:15 PM
It’s due for completion in 15 years time…
According to what Arista said, it's going to be completed by 2029.
Reverse it then. It’s not about where it’s about distance.
Thing is though, the areas being fought over are areas with many of the population wanting to be part of Russia, they were persecuted for this and murdered by the Ukrainian authorities during protests. It is in simple terms, an area where some of it's population wanted to break away from the soveirgn state. Those people in the fighting regions, you could say are the Glasgow, whilst them down south, building the luxurious ski resort arentje english in London..Historically rubbing it in.
Mystic Mock
25-06-2025, 08:17 PM
It was a world war, we sacrificed lives for that. Lives given on foreign soil. A fare trade...
That kind of thinking creates a cold society imo.
Kind of like the society that we've got today.
No, not correct. We paid back international aid donated during both world wars, as Ukraine is expected to do so this time.
You had a lot of negative opinions but not much knowledge, it might be worth reading up.
We finally paid it back this millennium I think.
According to what Arista said, it's going to be completed by 2029.
The first phase. It’s due to be completed in 15 years time.
We finally paid it back this millennium I think.
Yes, we did. Very recently. So we accepted help as a loan, we paid it back. Who are we to deny others the same help?
Mystic Mock
25-06-2025, 08:20 PM
The first phase. It’s due to be completed in 15 years time.
Fair enough.
Yes, we did. Very recently. So we accepted help as a loan, we paid it back. Who are we to deny others the same help?
I can guarantee not one Butlins holiday park was built whilst the war was on going.
I can guarantee not one Butlins holiday park was built whilst the war was on going.
I don’t really think you compare the two eras. The only part of the UK not frequently bombed was Northern Wales and most of Scotland. Travel was limited both during the war and of course in general around that time due to the lack of accessible public transport and low percentage of people driving.
Added to that, the wars were very very different and the time was very very different.
Saying Ukraine is undeserving of private firms investing in its future tourism to ensure economic growth post-war because their government are taking loans to help with war from a country who themselves took loans to help with a war is an odd take but fair enough if you don’t want to budge on it.
Dude, you have such a black and white view of how things work.
Life has to continue as normal otherwise the country will cease to be. These ares are around 350-400 miles apart from one another. Imagine Glasgow being bombed and developments continue in London.
The West of Ukraine is being redeveloped significantly - this is to ensure continuation of trade, future tourism and a way to secure its future economics.
Presumably Putin won’t just settle for ‘part’ of Ukraine … plus I would have imagined he’ll want to take ownership of the super duper Ski resort as well ??
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It's probably being built by the Russians.
I did wonder if they were financing it , secretly
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